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@Hindi_Horror_Stories_219

9 ай бұрын

it is useless to see the dogfights between two 5th gen jets, bvr should be done

@Dirbikes

9 ай бұрын

F-22 vs p-51

@thecobra45

9 ай бұрын

Can we get some viper or hornet love?

@Anarchy_420

9 ай бұрын

AV-8B VS F-35B F-86 Sabre VS A-10 Thunderbolt II MIG-29K VS SU-33 J-10 VS SU-27 MB-339 Aermacchi VS MIG-15 P-47 Thunderbolt VS SU-25 Frogfoot Mirage F-1 VS Panavia Tornado F-111 Aardvark VS MIG-27K Please fly Planes on the left!🙏👍

@Stonger44

9 ай бұрын

My dad wants to see P-51 vs Me 262

Loving the addition of the active battle happening on the ground/sea while the dogfight goes on, very cool!

@user-bf7vy3ub9c

9 ай бұрын

I was damn everyone going at it!

@benn454

9 ай бұрын

A couple of those missiles that GS thought was from the Felon were actually SAMs from the surface ships. A little extra pucker factor.

@bobwampler3387

9 ай бұрын

I’d like to see more of that.

@PegasusTenma1

9 ай бұрын

@@benn454 basically means the battles are even harder now.

*Wing comes off* > "Hydraulic failure"

@braydenwarren3233

9 ай бұрын

The f22 is a glass half full kind of airplane

@DonVigaDeFierro

3 ай бұрын

I mean, the hydraulics were technically not responding...

@embeddd

3 ай бұрын

@@DonVigaDeFierro "what hydraulics"

@fb47655

22 күн бұрын

"You got a hole in your left wing"

@courage04

16 күн бұрын

@@fb47655 While the left wing is nowhere to be found lol

Dude that final kill on the felon was absolutely incredible. Beautiful maneuvering.

@GrowlingSidewinder

9 ай бұрын

Ya pretty cool how the f22 just drifts in and gets a gun kill. Such a beast

@kuryakin2483

9 ай бұрын

Wouldn’t it be great if countries settled their problems by a 1v1 aerial duel between their best pilot and aircraft.

@bennoel4555

9 ай бұрын

Insane

@daveyboy6985

9 ай бұрын

@@kuryakin2483 be good if they were twin seaters, and have countries leader next to the pilot.

@Relativity_Space-SFS

9 ай бұрын

Biden won’t even survive the gs pulled💀@@daveyboy6985

It's insane how slowly those things can fly in that second dog fight it looks like they were just floating there I'm not surprised the F 22 fell into the water

@renatoigmed

9 ай бұрын

thge thrust-to-weight ratio is 1.08 wthch 15 875 kgf each. This means that the thrust can displace the aircraft's own weight as if it were a helicopter

@maxfreedom1710

9 ай бұрын

@@renatoigmed because america

@x-raygamma

9 ай бұрын

@@maxfreedom1710Not exclusive to the f22. Su57 has >1 thrust to weight ratio too.

@shroom903

9 ай бұрын

Knowbody really lnows about either of them

@amazin7006

9 ай бұрын

@@x-raygamma Not really true. Su57 only has 1:1 thrust to weight ratio on paper. These are the specifications for when it uses the "newer" engines. Currently no SU57 is equipped with the new engines, instead they use old SU35 engines.

I love how there’s a huge naval battle going on below them the whole time with a super carrier on fire and it never gets mentioned 😂

@kentchristen6048

9 ай бұрын

That carrier is way too close to shore . . . . The admiral will be fired if he survives the battle.

@gwcrispi

9 ай бұрын

Also, if there was a carrier below, he'd have a bunch of F-35Cs up there helping him...

@Triggatra4258

9 ай бұрын

​@gwcrispi mmm not necessarily. They could have been taken out with a first strike. Notice the carrier is already on fire and no telling what happened to the air wing.

@Bad_Wolf_Media

9 ай бұрын

@@kentchristen6048Carriers, contrary to what you might have heard (apparently?) do actually make port from time to time. And if he's in home port, then there typically wouldn't have been any aircraft embarked, either.

@hydrodrift

9 ай бұрын

2 of the best Jets in the entire world fighting each other in a dog fight, a man couldn’t ask for much more 😪

As Always Thank you to Grinnelli for making the F-22 Videos possible, whos excited for the F-100? I think it will be nice to get some more Vietnam Era Aircraft into the sim, something that is very much needed.

@Averagecartilistener

9 ай бұрын

Yep, it’ll be exciting!

@maverickmissile801

9 ай бұрын

My granddad flew the f100 so I'm excited to see how it flies

@DylanDavidVindasLopez

9 ай бұрын

F-35 + Meteor vs Su-57 BVR PLEASE!!! (switching planes each round)

@thedishonoredamerican129

9 ай бұрын

I can't wait for you to fly the A-1 when it comes to DCS. It's going to be some great content, much like everything else on this channel.

@ck12ms

9 ай бұрын

This was a beautiful video, those 2 planes are made to fight eachother it feels like, and the scenery very fitting. The F22 is so dominant across all fights that it no longer feels interesting to ask "Who would win" but rather "What would it take to win over an F22 in x scenario?" or "What would have to be true for x platform to challange the F22?". What would happen if we changed altitude and fought in heavy cloud coverage as an example in this case? Maybe start as usual and keep ramping up the difficulty as each round passes? Food for thought! Anyways thanks as always for the awesome vid :)

i love how there’s just a huge naval battle happening below them and their casually fighting it out overhead lol.

@h8GW

7 ай бұрын

I bet they had a hard time ignoring those naval missile tracks.

I love how they have such amazing turning ability they can end up completely turning around and fly backwards for a moment and still fly well, it's like watching a elegant dance in the sky

@edwardking186

9 ай бұрын

That has to be the Grinelli F-22 he's flying; it's an F-22 on steroids! It's the only Raptor that can fly that way! I've seen the Raptor fly at air shows, and it does not fly like this; I mean the G forces would crush the pilot. He's got a few videos flying it, and if you compare it to the other F-22 Raptor videos of his, you can tell it flies faster and turns tighter than a regular Raptor.

@thaddeus5944

9 ай бұрын

@@edwardking186 so there are different versions of the F-22? Didn't know that, that's pretty kuul

@edwardking186

9 ай бұрын

@@thaddeus5944 This is a one-of-a-kind Raptor that GS flies in some of the Raptor videos. It can accelerate and turn on a dime faster than a normal Raptor.

@h8GW

7 ай бұрын

@edwardking186 You mean it turns faster than real F-22s are allowed to show at airshows.

@jancecd8466

2 ай бұрын

@@edwardking186u a f22 raptor hater

Thanks for chosing such a dynamic area to dpgfight in. Watching all of the action happening around you was awesome

I was working offshore in the gulf of Mexico when they had a practice dog fight directly above us. It was a couple F-18s and something else. It was amazing to watch! It's hard to understand just how powerful and maneuverable those aircraft are. The whole job shut down for about 10-15 minutes just to watch those guys. Beasts! Absolute beasts!

GS, this is legitimately some of your best live commentary to date. It's ridiculous how thoughtful and articulate you are while in fights this close. Incredible video.

This was one of the best dogfights I've seen in a while. Absolutely amazing performance from both aircraft and it is insane how slow they get during these fights. That last gun kill was one of the cleanest things I've ever seen. Absolutely amazing job and keep up the awesome content and performance.

f-22 sure loves doing backflips

4:00 crazy to see how slow they can take a fight to and still be able to turn and fight well

@peekaboo1575

9 ай бұрын

5th gens are no joke.

@kaydenchan7093

9 ай бұрын

They can’t two circle though. All the AOA things are once circle.

Toxic is a hell of a pilot. Big props to him. ALWAYS love me some F-22 videos. Not sure there will ever be a good F-35 model, though, b/c the F-35 isn't about its kinematics, but about all of the absurd technology *inside* the cockpit (jamming, exceptional radar, communications with other aircraft, etc.). Don't think that stuff will make it out in a long, LONG time.

@Remix2366

9 ай бұрын

Toxic is simply worse at dogfighting 💀

@traviswalker8933

9 ай бұрын

The F-22 has a lot of classified tech, yet grinelli managed to model it perfectly. Its very possible to correctly model the aircraft from the publicly available information.

@wizardemrys

9 ай бұрын

@@traviswalker8933 nope. You cannot model the sensor fusion of the F-35 in DCS. You can't model the integration of the radar ground map with the EOTS map. You can't model the algorithms that automatically detect and classify each threat.

@Triggatra4258

9 ай бұрын

​@@traviswalker8933perfectly? Idk about all that. Perfectly according to PUBLIC DATA yeah Maybe but definitely NOT the F-22s ACTUAL specs and still extremely classified systems. C'mon bro do better, use your brain.

@traviswalker8933

9 ай бұрын

@@Triggatra4258 did I say it was modeled as per it's actual specs? I said it was modeled perfectly as per the publicly available data. Maybe take the English comprehension classes you missed at highschool once again.

yes, this In my opinion very accurate depiction of what their real dogfight could be: very steep turns, tremendous overG, guns as important as missiles. BUT the most important is how skilled the pilots would be: to win they need to master their aircraft and know what to expect from the rival. GS, try to switch places and fly for Felon against F-22. Lets see how good can you be then?

@arseniynaumov135

9 ай бұрын

@@teeanahera8949 most of those, yes, will be BVR fights, but in case all missiles fail, some planes will clash into close engagement, and there - skill is a deciding factor for survivability

@coffeelover9165

9 ай бұрын

I think there's a video where GS fly the Su57 vs F22 and he won

@rileymorrisroe6743

9 ай бұрын

Both are so capable at dogfighting, and in my opinion, using whats publically available, the SU-57 is better, asits more maneuverable, as its designed to be amazing in WVR. But the difference is so minimal that its mostly down to the pilot and also whose on the offensive vs defensive.

F-22 Pilot: “I’ve sent you my AIM-120, please respond.”

That recovery from Toxic on the second encounter was gold!

⚔🎦🗿I could feel Toxic's frustration getting lit up so soon after the merge 😂

@xierus

9 ай бұрын

There are unique jet emojis? I'm so confused

@BonkyBob233

9 ай бұрын

Yeah lol@@xierus

@samuelcyril324

9 ай бұрын

​@@BonkyBob233how did you do that

@GordonFeeshman

9 ай бұрын

@@xierus I'm guessing he's a member of the channel and it gives him those emojis

12:08 You gotta love how the Raptor can just Tokyo drift into a gun solution at the top. lol But I give credit to the Felon too. The 1st turn or 2 is scary capable. Great vid. Love the Naval battle going on.

9 : 08 Pretty sure those guys on the ships were not really paying attention to you. They looked quite busy throwing missiles and shells to each other ...😅

It's like 2 pieces of confetti drifting in the wind.

@DonVigaDeFierro

3 ай бұрын

Trying to kill each other with missiles and guns.

I would like to see the G- forces displayed in the corner of the screen throughout the fight. In many of these fights, I wonder if the average pilot could sustain the positive and negative Gs over the course of the fight.

@jlight7346

9 ай бұрын

In these, probably without much issue. The first turn is gonna suck but after that, everything is at or below the stall speed of most modern fighters. They are making extremely tight turns, but aren’t going fast enough for it to result in a significant acceleration for the pilot. The dogfights with 4th gen aircraft on the other hand, those would be a challenge. Especially prolonged two-circle fights where you’re sustaining 4+ Gs for minutes at a time.

@GrowlingSidewinder

9 ай бұрын

Exactly this, the fight is so slow Gs shouldn’t be to much of an issue

@trs4u

9 ай бұрын

Don't we see 'tunnel vision' and 'hic' breathing in some of the videos during high-G turns? That's what I though it was... maybe it isn't.

@hunormagyar1843

9 ай бұрын

​@@trs4uThat's exactly what it is.

It's crazy watching these massive jets maneuver around each other like WWI bi-planes.

The YF-22, that became the F-22, first flew in 1990. Since then more than a quarter of the time that has passed since the Wright brothers first flight in 1902. That is quite something.

Remember: you can outsmart a missile and you can outsmart a person. But I have yet to meet one that can outsmart BOOLET.

@SirAtesh

9 ай бұрын

Heavy is that you?

@solarflare623

9 ай бұрын

@@SirAtesh yes it is me

Back in my hometown, there are sparrows, I would watch them playing and fighting in midair before sunset when I was little. This looks exactly like their motions, they turn and struggle and catch each other in free fall and fly off with the lightest paddle through the air like a breath. I can't imagine how it will look when fighters get more thrust, like TTW over 3, they gonna fight with knives!

man the 22 from some angles looks like an alien craft and i love it

Watching these 2 jets maneuver the way they do is absolutely amazing.

I remember seeing hud footage of an F15 many years ago and was amazed at the way it moved for such a large aircraft. And now we have the 22 that is way beyond the 15.

the f22 is has always been and always will be my favorite plane ever created. it is an absolute wonder of the aviation world.

This was by far the best visual battle you have had so far. I loved the Naval battle going on underneath. They even had a few missiles coming at you. More of this eye candy please and great work .

The way they both turn. In the air it’s as if they are dancing

F22 flys like we all pretend with kids and toy jets. Turning on the spot, always being able to point nose and doing ludicrous things to do whatever it wants with no rules.

would love to see GS pilot the Felon in these boss fights

@traviswalker8933

9 ай бұрын

I think he did that already atleast once.

@luccaleprechaunn1406

9 ай бұрын

it´s like the F35, he dosen´t want to

@traviswalker8933

9 ай бұрын

@@luccaleprechaunn1406 the F-35 is not modeled correctly in DCS. The felon is and he did fly it in a dogfight against the F-22.

@nightslon6695

9 ай бұрын

I guess he is not allowed to fly the Felon. Forbidden by secretary of defence of USA :P

I think I'll rewatch this video for a long time. From the map to the fight, it was all just perfect.

What's amazing about the F-22 is it has its dogfighting dominance WITHOUT an off-boresight cuing helmet!

Looks like a lot of the difference here is just the raw thrust of the F-22, it seems to be able to power its way through those high AoA maneuvers in a way that the Su-57 just can't.

@jancecd8466

2 ай бұрын

Facts 💪

Awesome, GS. I love the battle occurring below you. Nice touch!

That wasn't flying! That was Stalling With STYLE!

That round 3 finishing move was disgusting. Raptor just looking down on that poor sob after a sick drift into a firing position. Why it’s my favorite plane in every category

Bro really went trick shot with the backflip

Loved the naval battle going on underneath! That was the perfect backdrop for this match up.

4:34 Imagine the T-50/Su-57 doing a celebratory flare dump, and bursting into flames 😂

it looks to me that at least in the this simulation the Felon has an engine disadvantage compared to the Raptor. First two, three turns after merge the Felon looks good, but at some point it sits just like a fat pig in the air whereas the Raptor is all over the place.

So far there’s nothing better than a F-22 raptor.

@konstantingaivoronskii3761

3 ай бұрын

So far f22, haven’t been in any fights whatsoever only on Internet 😂

@fifteen8850

2 ай бұрын

@@konstantingaivoronskii3761neither jet tbf

@愛を込めてロシアから

Ай бұрын

@@fifteen8850 Meanwhile Su35, Su30, Su57🙋‍♂🙋‍♂🙋‍♂

That is some interesting damage simulation: F22 gets a couple of hits entire wing disintegrated and falls from sky. SU57 gets stitched multiple times and looks like the pilot is enjoying his vape pen.

@griffinfaulkner3514

9 ай бұрын

Part of that comes down to the cannon used, I think. The Russian GSh-30-1 is a nasty, _nasty_ motherfucker when it comes to individual hits. I think that's part of the reason the F-35 switched to the GAU-22/A, individual hits are getting more and more important than sheer volume of fire.

@griffinfaulkner3514

9 ай бұрын

@@mikes989 Welcome to movie depictions of modern aircraft cannons in a nutshell, because your average viewer has no idea how large each individual round is, or how insane the rate of fire is. My favorite method to explain this is telling them that the M61A1 essentially fires high-explosive salt shakers at a rate of a hundred rounds per _second._

@kaydenchan7093

4 ай бұрын

⁠@@griffinfaulkner3514I wonder why the USAF don’t use 30mm rounds on their fighter jets.

@user-lz8qo2ie7s

Ай бұрын

​@@kaydenchan7093 It's too big. the Russians have some of the largest fighters and the ammunition supply, God forbid, will be 200 rounds

@kaydenchan7093

Ай бұрын

@@user-lz8qo2ie7s the F-22 is a really large fighter, and their M61s can carry 500 rounds. A 200 round 30mm round would be no problem.

It’s just amazing how good the F 22 is considering this dogfight wouldn’t even happen because it’s going to smoke anything before they even know it’s coming. It’s the size of a golf ball on a radar and then even if it does have to get into a dogfight it’s the best, thank God we have as many of them as we do and the closest competitor barely has like what 15?

@DBravo29er

9 ай бұрын

Exactly. The SU-57 finds out about the F-22 by the AMRAAM that is flying toward it from the F-22 it didn't see. lol

@kevinmyers440

9 ай бұрын

@@DBravo29er yup

11:55 at this point the F22 owns this beat dude, it just fits the pure hatred the F22 is made of

Knowing how good of a pilot Toxic is, I think it’s shows what an absolute monster F-22 is

@unknown-user.955

9 ай бұрын

he is not that good at flying the SU57 tho

@zovslavsforever

9 ай бұрын

​@@unknown-user.955I concur

@dwarow2508

9 ай бұрын

Eh, not really. The SU57 can basically teleport on your six easily. I have seen Toxic do better in an older video in the SU57

@rileymorrisroe6743

9 ай бұрын

​@@dwarow2508Yeah... no, it depends on the situation and the aircraft and pulit your up against, the maneuverability between these 2 aircraft isnt that significant, especially not at such low speeds.

@dwarow2508

9 ай бұрын

@@rileymorrisroe6743 Yeah... no, the Su57 is by far the most manouverable out of the two and it is not even close, especially at such low speeds.

This should be made into a film called TOP GUN 3 The 5th Generation. Love the video.

These are my favorite dog fights just love watching these two jets float around in the sky

Really hopping you would switch to guns in the earlier rounds sooner, you had several shots that would have easily taken the 57 out when it was somewhat obvious that missiles would most likely miss at short ranges.

Love the comment about both floating around like leaves. Totally perfect description! Love the work!

As a soldier, I would’ve died on the ground watching this go on over head.

Definitely alot going on in this area. Very fun to watch all of it. Nice job!!

These dogfights are absolutely incredible to watch. Two predators engaged in a beautiful but very deadly dance.

that last one was like a trick shot move

9:14 I love 5th gen fights, shit looks goofy as hell

@ryosuketakahashi3232

9 ай бұрын

it looks like you're watching the fight in slow motion

So mesmerizing to watch you fly these beasts. Amazing content bro keep it up!! 😎😎

F-22: "Hydraulic failure." Also F-22: **Is literally missing the right/starboard wing after that shot**

Probably my favorite video so far. Crazy to see these 2 fifth gen fighters

😈🇺🇸💯🔥 The Velociraptor is The King of the Sky's... Unbeatable and honestly I'd really like to see the YF-23 Grey Ghost and the YF-23 Black Widow added into DCS.

Thank You! Always love watching The Felon in action!!

Great flying from Toxic. Awesome video.

Crazy beautiful dogfight there. Loved it. We want more!!!

I love seeing an F-22 being pushed hard by its pilot

what a literal knife fight of a dogfight

Having seen an F22 in real I have no doubt it would perform like this.

Great fight gentlemen! Excellent flying by both pilots!!

Super badass.. keep ‘em coming GS! Lately I’ve been completely sold on F-22 for air superiority and A-10 for ground attack.. lol.. well done on creating my new fav’s

The last one looked so cool...like the plane equivalent of a backflip 360 no scope. lol

Those two in a dog fight is a thing to behold. At first you think it's slow-mo footage until you realize that this is real time and that's just how they fly.

Looks like those Navy boys are probably too busy to watch the aerial show

crazy how these 5th gen fighters can just loop around forever and look like they dont have any energy left but they just keep going around

It is with full respect to the Felon that I say, imagine entering a merge with a felon and feeling 4-1 advantage confident. F-22 is something else entirely.

@J0nath0n.

9 ай бұрын

And we hardly know anything about the Raptor in reality which is the scary part

Toxic like Longshot is quickly becoming a dangerous dogfighter.

Loved your minidocs channel. Hopefully, it can make a comeback in the future!

Hydraulics failure? You're wing's off!

Epitome of high speed low drag. What a fight! 👍🏼

love the naval warfare in the backround very nice video as always

I'd like to see multi-party dogfights. Like 3 or 4 fighters all fighting each other at once.

You were so focused on your insane ability to practically point your noses at each other at will that you almost forgot to keep the aircraft in the sky. Never let your altitude get below 0 feet MSL!

Good ole 22 showing the 35 how its done vs 57.

3:50 - Shoutout to the cameraman who risked his life filming 1v1 dogfight.

I love how your wing was missing and all you said was "Hydraulic error" lol

Would be great to see the rematch, with Toxic flying the Raptor and you in the Felon ! Same amount of rounds.

This dogfight was nuts, both planes are so wildly dynamic, maneuverable and lethal - great stuff

I’d love to see a dogfight between the YF-23 and J-20…

the turning a stall into vertically accelerating is wild

Dude. That was epic. The first two rounds had my palms sweating.

Great fights, very cool scenario and quality!

We've evolved dogfighting back to 1700s tactics. 6th gen aircraft is just gonna be a couple of guys standing shoulder to shoulder in an open field shooting at each other

What a show! Very cool!

10:50 - how dare you! How dare you say we can ever have enough of the f22 showing it's dominance!!??

Gawd how I do love these bossfights. And my favorite outro music.

Huzzah love the video, thank you GS and toxic for the fun ride

The F35B would call 911 if it lost a dogfight

Absolutely beautiful fights guys. love to see it!