Vision of the Future is 26 hours long on audiobook. Can listen to it here for free: www.audibletrial.com/eckhartsladder

@commanderknight9314

6 жыл бұрын

Do yuuzahn vong vs. the borg.

@duncanmcokiner4242

6 жыл бұрын

Krogan vs Brutes [172nd ask]

@matthewmohri9990

6 жыл бұрын

Short but I liked it. I think it would be cool to see your idea of how the combined might and strategy of Thrawn/Empire and the New Republic would have worked out against The Vong.

@owenhildebrandt2175

6 жыл бұрын

EckhartsLadder can you do a top 10 Star wars legends books or series we need to read? Cause I'm starting to collect star wars legends books and I want to know what ones I should get first. Also KT would be a cool list

@hunterscott3000

6 жыл бұрын

Im about the start the new jedi order series.

Thrawn is too cool to be a villain, but too OP to be a hero. He exists in a little grey area between those two, a guy with good intentions who fought for the side that ultimately ended up losing.

@stormcommando1640

6 жыл бұрын

@ThatFighterGuy Thrawn is loyal to the Empire! This is all just rebel propaganda!

@Duchess_Van_Hoof

4 жыл бұрын

​@@stormcommando1640 Pfft. He was a Chiss agent all along.

@borankaradeniz266

2 жыл бұрын

@@Duchess_Van_Hoof indeed

It would have been awesome to see thrawn fighting against yuuzhan vong.

@beasticy4216

6 жыл бұрын

Darth Vader it would of been Better Seeing The Imperium of man fighting the Vong instead

@TheEventHorizon909

6 жыл бұрын

Darth Vader he would have kicked their asses

@matthew____879

6 жыл бұрын

imperium of man would have curb stomped the vong, the vong couldn't beat the star wars galaxy at the lower end of its strength, much less the fully militarized imperium

@Fer-De-Lance

6 жыл бұрын

But he was just another fatally flawed imperial.

@derpyno-scope2590

6 жыл бұрын

+beast ICY the best would have been if Thrawn leaded the imperium of man, they would be invincible and NOTHING could win against them.

To make Thrawn a pure villain undermines his character. He's not evil, he's just doing what needs to be done, and if what needs to be done is horrible, he'd do it. I like him having the galaxy's best interests at heart more

@m3tr0id86

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah to be fair, Thanos was not all too different. I like this guy, because REALLY hard calls are not easy to make, much less easy to do in any way, shape or form.

@ltb1345

6 жыл бұрын

Jedi Archives If Thrawn could use the force, do you think he'd be a Grey Jedi, or a Dark Jedi? He definitely wouldn't be full Sith, I don't think.

@m3tr0id86

6 жыл бұрын

I would wager a Grey Jedi. If you recall the force is channeled through them, not controlled. Even Grey Jedi are not the type to be by the book if the need calls for it. Even if it was bordering on Palpatine killing him for it.

@theodorberg8473

6 жыл бұрын

No one in the Empire is evil

@m3tr0id86

6 жыл бұрын

At least VERY few

I like the idea that Thrawn was always thinking of the future, it suits his character. Given the galaxy's... lackluster response to the Vong in the beginning, I think having Thrawn around would have dramatically altered the war from the beginning. Not only that, I would have loved to get Thrawn's perspective on Vong art and culture.

@Farlomous

6 жыл бұрын

agreed, I also think Thrawn would have pieced together that the various anti-droid rallies were actually a covert attempt to so confusion and disorder within the galaxy and perhaps may have dealt swiftly with the instigators. The big question I see is, if he say were to have revealed himself later when the New Republic had better established itself, how well would he have worked with the Jedi in managing the Vong threat. Also, would have loved to have seen him weave his tactics in with those of Ackbar and Garm bel-Iblis.

@datkat2001

6 жыл бұрын

the vong have art and culture?

@Farlomous

6 жыл бұрын

their self-mutilation and tatoos, the way they organically grow their ships, their interesting torture methods. all could be considered art and culture, plus their hatred of droids I believe was a religious factor. their are probably more, I haven't read the books in so I long I have forgotten most of it.

@Popchip99

6 жыл бұрын

Their hatred of droids was due to what drove them to flee their home and invade the star wars galaxy

@gargoyles9999

6 жыл бұрын

Popster Gaming they hated droids because their world was invaded by machines, they fled their galaxy because they fought each other to the point of rendering their own galaxy uninhabitable.

For me Thrawn was always a realist and not the villain who wants to reign the galaxy as an emperor. For example in the new Thrawn novel he wants to save innocent people rather than saving resources for the empire. He is a man who wants to protect his people and in the case of invaders from another galaxy the whole skyriver galaxy (Star Wars galaxy) is his home and everyone in it are his people. Than means I think he just wants the best for the galaxy. That’s why he wasn’t a fan of the republic in the Clone Wars. He thought it was to unstable and corrupt. He always wanted the best for the galaxy. At the time, where the rebels just were terrorists, he also tried to kill them, because he believed that they bring chaos to the galaxy.

@marcbartuschka6372

6 жыл бұрын

Well, I would also hope Zahn himself paint Thrawn not too soft in the future. I have no problems if Thrawn could be ruthless. He lives in ruthless times and faces dangerous foes. When he took command of the Remants, he brought them back from bitter infighting and faced a New Republic who not really was ready for a peace which was more than unconditional surrender, I guess (all that "revenge for Alderan" stuff etc.). I never saw him as a villain, not in the original Thrawn books (which are th reason why I side with the Empire....) and not in other material. Cold and calculating, yes. But never cruel without reason. On the other hand if someone get in his way...well, those people are lucky if the could regret that...

@AckzaTV

9 ай бұрын

thrawn is real politik

I remember when I first heard about the production of Episode VII. I was so excited, thinking that we would be seeing the New Republic face off against the Vong. I later found out I was wrong.

@TheDrunkenHetzer

6 жыл бұрын

In the new canon Thrawn book, Thrawn still points out unknown threats in the unknown region, so there's a possibility we could see the Vong, just MUCH later, in episode 10 or something. I suspect Disney will keep the movies going for a while, so they might eventually just run out of ideas and use the Vong, too.

@dragonstormx

5 жыл бұрын

The Vong were very controversial when they came out in Legends and faced a lot of criticism for all the mass slaughter and torture they brought. For a lot of people this felt out of place in Star Wars and I have seen a number of opinions that the Vong fit better into Warhammer 40,000 than they do Star Wars.

@TheDemocrab

5 жыл бұрын

​@@TheDrunkenHetzer They won't do the Vong straight out but I can definitely see them having an extragalactic invader with a lot of similarities to the Vong if they keep going past Ep IX given the recent reputation of SW.

The Yuuzahn Vong is Thrawn's entire motivation. The whole reason to why he joined Empire was to stop the Vong, that is the whole reason the Ascendancy sent him on his mission to infiltrate the empire. Which brings the point that since he is still loyal to the Ascendancy, the Galactic Empire was for a time practically an unwitting vassal of the Chiss.

@CHRF-55457

5 ай бұрын

Not quite. Palpatine knows. Palpatine literally knew. He knew who Thrawn was, and perhaps maybe why Thrawn was coming over.

I personally think having a villain with good intentions but evil methods is great. I also recently got Outbound Flight and plan on reading it after I finish the nightmare fuel that is Deathtroopers

So this is why everyone raves about Thrawn

@williamsledge3151

6 жыл бұрын

Justin Y. Tell me how to escape you because I need to right now

@grand-dadmiral

6 жыл бұрын

The more you know.

@funny_valentine6588

6 жыл бұрын

Grand Admiral Thrawn how dare you impersonate an Admiral shame on you

@grand-dadmiral

6 жыл бұрын

Not this, again.

@CoffeeSuccubus

6 жыл бұрын

Justin Y. ignore these morons who keep asking how you're in every video

In the end the appearence of Thrawn would have been largely positive since it was yet another attack which forced the NR to build up it's strenghth (Usually nations end up stronger militarly after the war then before the war if the conflict lasted for a long time), but the truth is that had he succeded/ had any imperial faction won the Galactic civil war and connected conflicts the galaxy would have been more preapeared for the invasion. And I definitelly like the idea of Thrawn having galaxy's best intrest in mind, as releatable villains/ villains which could be heroes if you were born on the other side of the barricade are my favourite opponents, althrough I think that he really though about the Chiss and their survival and not the galaxy as a whole.

@ltb1345

6 жыл бұрын

Warwolf 300 Outbound Flight did a good job of explaining why Thrawn didn't have good relations with the Jedi, and instead went with Palpatine's side.

@warwolf3005

6 жыл бұрын

I've read that book but could you remind me? It' been like 6 years or sth so I don't quite remember

I love Thrawn, and love all his books. I did not see him as a villein so much as a pragmatist, and a being with an honorable, if confusing code of conduct.

If we had a choice where we could put our favorite Star Wars characters in a pocket dimension or alternate universe, I would have Thrawn and Revan leading an army of clones, Mandaloians, and Chiss against the galaxy to first conquer it then defend it against the Yuuzhan Vong

I know this would be difficult, but can you breakdown what is by far the largest space battle in the entire franchise? *The* *Battle* *of* *Yuuzhan'tar!* I have made this request: thirty-four times.

Thrawn has never been a pure villain. (except in Rebels where they were forced to make him because children don't understand gray areas) He has always had the galaxy's best interests in mind and even when fighting against an enemy tried to inflict minimal casualties.

Pellaeon, Daala, Asard and other worthy post-Endor imperials are certainly cool and heroic, but Thrawn will always be the best imperial character. Heir to the Empire!

@giladpellaeon1691

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the mention, lol.

@kgfalcon9394

6 жыл бұрын

I always thought that Pellaeon was that average general/admiral that while nothing special themselves, 1)new how to survive and 2)how to learn so that by their later years was somehow so much more then what they were ever expected to be

@giladpellaeon1691

6 жыл бұрын

In "Heir to the Empire" he works as a Watson to Thrawn's being Sherlock.

@kgfalcon9394

6 жыл бұрын

Gilad Pellaeon I'm just saying he failed and failed and failed again but then was able to pull the imperial remnant together, counter a coup in the yuuzhan vong war, become an amazing supreme commander and get a whole line of star destroyers named after him 100 yrs later

@giladpellaeon1691

6 жыл бұрын

No worries, I'm not arguing with you. He's a character who knew when to cut his loses, learn from failure and grow. He wasn't arrogant and did not blame others for his own shortcomings.

I Absolutely Love Thrawn and everything about him. Personally he is my favorite Star Wars character now. Ever since I listen to heir to the empire I fell in love with the character. He is in my opinion one of the best character ever made not just in Star Wars. Eckhartsladder can you do a video of Thrawn in the new cancon please

It fits with the way Zahn writes antagonists. They are not so much villains as representatives of an opposing side doing what they think is right based on the information they possess. Sometimes the info is wrong or incomplete and sometimes it is the protagonists who lack the needed info to understand the antagonist's motives.

Even with the new canon I still believe Palpatine formed the empire and pushed all the military resources and technology to prepare the galaxy for the Yuuzahn Wong (?) . It gives the empire and Palpatine a whole new twist and I enjoy the role of Thrawn. He's logical cold and efficient. He wants to protect the galaxy in a matter of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

I like the idea that Thrawn was only fighting for the Empire as he saw it as the only hope to defeat the Yuuzhan Vong, although the issue I have with the entire concept is that knowledge of such a threat to the galaxy, had it been made known could have helped turn the tide against the rebel alliance, and if they lost popular support they would loose the ability to re-equip and re-arm. It seems like a piece of information that the Emperor would use to full effect, because if the people were worried about their very lives they would see the Empires growing military forces as a positive and not a negative that was costing the populations time, money, and resources beyond what they could comfortably supply and thus there were shortages of many, many things, including basics such as power.

@CHRF-55457

5 ай бұрын

Problem is, when will the Vong get here, and 2. There are just those who think, not my problem, or maybe they are a reasonable and civilized people, and 3, why should we trust the word of the Chiss Ascendancy, some random, unknown alien government we've never heard of before, or only have myths and legends of them?

You should do the battle for holy terra from Warhammer 30K (Horus heresy) (seventh attempt)

Don't forget his Resistance teams!

Replicators vs a Unified Star Wars universe (261st try now, *_I._** WILL NEEEEVER EEEVER GIVE UP!!!)*

What would Thrawn do if he face the Flood from Halo?

@frozengrip2609

6 жыл бұрын

Gilberto Cortez the Flood would stomp, he has no way of stopping them

@comandercarnis

6 жыл бұрын

Gilberto Cortez yeah unless he nukes them from low orbit on whatever planet the outbreak has occured on with a fleet before they reach coordinated stage he's screwed along with the rest of the galaxy

@Omega4Productions

6 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Thrawn's strategic strengths lie in his ability to have time to plan and then react. He doesn't really improvize. The Flood almost entirely rely on surprise attack, which means you won't see them coming until its too late.

@comandercarnis

6 жыл бұрын

Red Centurion pretty much and depending on where they start they could spread like wildfire before anyone even knows what's going on.

@samspeed6271

6 жыл бұрын

Thrawn, just like every other sensible person, would probably make a 180 degree turn and run like a bat out of hell. Short of using HALO, once an outbreak has reached the coordinated stage, you've got less than a snowballs chance of defeating the Flood.

I believe the thrawn idea is the smartest idea in general when you think about it when an enemy is like that you might just have to side with the biggest power house to save everyone

vision of the future is a great book, but it always bugged me how hard they tried to ret con thrawn away from being a villain.

@EckhartsLadder

6 жыл бұрын

Yeah it is a pretty drastic retcon. You don't really see the seeds of it in the Thrawn Trilogy.

@grandadmiralzaarin4962

6 жыл бұрын

Glad someone noticed this besides me. His behavior towards the Noghri was very cruel and belittling. He was definitely changed with time to seem more heroic and noble.

@mrmact23

6 жыл бұрын

I always saw Thrawn as very calculating and having very little empathy and that doesn't really change with the new information in the Hand of Thrawn duology. It's also important to keep in mind that we are never in Thrawn's head during the Thrawn Trilogy, we only see him through Pellaeon's eyes, Thrawn was likely only focused on uniting the former imperial worlds before he would concern anyone with the impending Vong invasion. They are simply his rationale for doing what he did. Giving a villain a rationality for their actions doesn't make them any less of a villain. So I don't think he's less a villain in Spectre of the Past/Vision of the Future, more than it answers the question of why a logical Non-human would try to preserve an Empire in which most of the rest of the military hated him and the now-dead Emporer only used him. And why he would even join the Empire in the first place when there were so many other options for his exile.

Good job as always! Keep up the good work!

Love these videos. Awesome content!

I love Thrawn’s transition from big bad guy to anti hero who has the big picture in mind the whole way through. It just love the character development

Love the content as always

Eck i just want to say that i really like your thrawn videos and i hope that there is enough supoort to help you with your KZread career. Thx for being amazing keep it up!

Gotta love our favorite misunderstood blueberry trying to save the galaxy, would have been grand seeing Thrawn commanding ships against the vongies

Thrawn not just being a straight-up villain, I think, was something always intended. Zahn's writing style, even back during the Thrawn trilogy itself, loved to introduce a lot of grey into the conflict. He humanized the Remnant, gave them their own motivations and illustrated that they're really just people on the other side of the war, as opposed to the moustache-twirling supervillains it's usually portrayed as. Thrawn being given a different motivation just seems like a natural evolution

Thrawn has always come off to me as this kind if complexed anti-hero. It's been a long while since I read the Thrawn trilogy, but in that he was a bit more closer to evil as it relates to the empire.

Yay Notification Squad. Also love your Thrawn stuff and could you possibly do a video of the Gravestone from SWTOR?

Empire of the Hand, coolest faction name ever.

I like the idea that Throne is a empire member because he wants to protect the galaxy rather than the idea of he is simply evil.

The best villains always have had the galaxy's/world's best interests at heart. That's what makes them so compelling.

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I've always loved Thrawn. And the evolution of his character as a harsh pragmatist who was also benevolent (& a bit of a hopeful idealist) was excellent.

Pure Thrawn. He cared only about his people's safety. He knew that uniting the whole Galaxy against the vong was the only way to defeat them. He was never a villan, just chose the wrong side when he came back. But I bet of Pelleaon had been asked by Thrawn and Thrawn had been upfront about it, the Galaxy could have been completely ready and the vong war would not have lasted as long, and may not have even happened. If Thrawn had survived to see them, he would lose a little at first, until I got a good handle on their tactics, then once they saw his prowess they would probably need to build a super computer and upload copies of his mind to every ship with guns, basically outsmarting the vong at every turn.

I would say Thrawn was never a pure villain. The type of Empire he stand for could act brutal but it was not interested in bloodshed when it was not for a good reason. He had no problem in aceptiong surrender of worlds who had betrayed the Empire, staying away from simple revenge and purges but instead using their ressources in a controlled way to strengthen his forces. He had no problem in holding the Noghri hostage of their own honour-code and the danger of starvation, but he tried to avoid using brute force when fear or convincing could to the job as well (as was his dealing with the smugglers as long as they did not cross him). I am also not sure if he would have automatically joined the Republic if he would have been alive at this time (or even if he would come back as a clone). If he had not died, very likely the New Republic would have been crushed by him (if he would have survived longer is another question, since I am not sure how much Palpy would have liked his success). But I think he would also studied the weak points of the Republic, and that government despite of beeing so powerful had already failed over and over gain if they were not constantly saved by a former moisture farmer, a criminal and some other very suspicious guys and girls. Not really an ally you could trest, isn't it? He may have supported Pellaeons idea of peace, but not outright join the New Republic, instead strengthening the Imperial Remnants and the Empire, and preparing for the worst.

Eckarts ladder what if the empire had defeated the rebels and the death stars and thrawns tie project survived to the vong war What would the war have gone like ?

@joelmcfly5172

6 жыл бұрын

Thrawn‘ Tie Defender project is from canon not from legends. In legends these models were common ships in the empire.

@imrekalman9044

6 жыл бұрын

Not exactly common in the sense of production numbers being in the millions, but yes, not something extreme, just a logical, highly advanced (and badass) next evolution of the TIE series. As for the general question Thrawn would have turned the Yuuzhan Vong into Looser Vong! (Pro-Thrawn bias intensifies.) :)

Thrawn loved studying different cultures. He probably would have been fascinated by The Vong. Perhaps he even would have been able to broker a diplomatic solution with them. Unlikely but possible knowing Thrawn’s intelligence.

Love your videos, especially on Thrawn. Good question, what is your take on Demetrius Zaarin from the TIE Fighter game? Is there enough material to do a video on him?

Thrawn has never been a cartoon villain like Palpatine was, nor as ruthless as Vader or sociopathic as Tharkin. He is a rational and pragmatic commander, he knows to respect and understand his enemies. As such I find the Yuuzhan Vong to be an excellent motivaiton for him, it would enable him to pursue diplomacy with the New Republic but it might also push him to desperation and a traditional imperial ruthlessness.

Interestingly enough, I was actually listening to Vision of the Future as I was scrolling through KZread and saw this video ;)

Thrawn was very ambitious since the beginning of his history. He planned to defend the galaxy for role it after the invasion of the Far Outsiders.

Can the UNSC and the Covenant survive and beat the Angel Zeruel from Evangelion on Earth when the Covenant first attacked? Zeruel appears out of nowhere in this and is laying waste to everything and everyone that it sees and gets in it's way while trying to look for Lilith on this version of Earth to start the next Impact

@comandercarnis

6 жыл бұрын

coming up on infra-red I'm certain a direct blast from a Mac in followed by Shiva nukes or an direct hit from an energy projector would spell instant death for the angel.

Thrawn vs. the Yuuzhan Vong. Maybe examine overall strategy and how he could have unified forces

EckhartsLadder pls do a video on your star ship consepts, with numbers of numbers and fighter numbers as well as lenth and posibly cost as well.

I love your channel keep up the good work I know your not normally into hypotheticals like this but can you make a video about if thrawn would came back in 19 ABY and join the new republic

Thrawn would completely control them and play crazy mind games with them

I think it would be awesome if you covered the battle of Umbara and how you would have commanded republic forces during the battle.

all i can think about now is how fun and cool it would be to play a game of stellaris with you, The Templine institute and spacedock would be if you guys ever try to play a game with fans ill definitely be sure to sign right up for that. anyways ive been following you since like 10-20 k love your videos

Hey, just found your channel. Just wanna say, _THANK YOU_ for keeping interest in the EU alive! Keep it up, sir! Haha

How about for your next versus match you do the mammoth mk2 from command and conquer vs the AT-AT?

Imagine Thrawn, watching the body of a dead Yuuzhan Vong warrior, studying his scares, seeing the ART of it, understanding them... So many possibilities!

It's great that thrawn cares about the safety of the galaxy.

I don’t think that I ever once saw Thrawn as a villain. I learned about Thrawn from The Lore Master and by the time I saw him for the first time in Star Wars Rebels, I saw him as someone who had a singular goal in mind. To paraphrase Eli Vanto from the Thrawn comic, “The Chiss don’t make idle boasts. They accomplish what they set out to do or die trying.” If chose the Empire, I’d follow Thrawn to gates of Hell and back.

Nice bro

He would have won for sure. I mean he is THE Grand Admiral. Also Thrawn also he always had greater things in both in his heart and mind.

I feel like the original Thrawn trilogy had portrayed him as straight up villain, yes better than other Imperials like Vader and the Emperor, but still not the guy you want in charge of the galaxy. He was softened more into an anti-hero when his backstory was filled in and I really liked reading about him Outbound Flight, but I kinda miss the simplicity of the idea of him just wanting to rule the galaxy because he thinks he is the best guy for the job.

I think Thrawn had the best interests in the galaxy at heart. In the correct lore (Legands to some people), the galaxy barely survived the Youzang Vong invasion. If Thrawn took over, these foriegn invaders would have been decimated. I believe Thrawn would have fought more ferociously and eventually won. The Chiss grew up with the Far Outsiders as a constant threat. So they would have been able to put up more of a fight.

@FatalShadow13

5 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way, weak men like Borsk Fey'la wouldn't have had the reigns of the galaxy, not reacting to an obvious threat to the galaxy. Resources would have been moved, infiltrators would be rooted out, dare I say Nom Anor would have gotten a noghri knife to the heart. For one thing you would see massive numbers of Tie Defenders, and a revitalize imperial fleet.

@thecrusaderhistorian9820

5 жыл бұрын

I suppose we could say, never let aliens get into offices of leadership unless they are competent. In addition the death star would be excellent against them.

Fallout prewar America Vs. Brotherhood of Nod at the start of the third Tiberium War

Here's a thought... what if Thrawn, at the time of the Thrawn Campaign, decided to take his resources and expertise to the New Republic side instead? Recognizing them as the future of galactic power and attempting to aid them in quickly bringing the Imperial warlords to heel? Would have made Operation Shadow Hand particularly interesting...

You forgot to mention thrawns sleeper cell clones he set up to form the heart of resistances on planets if they were to fall to the vong.

I like it. It gives Thrawn much better reason to fight for the Empire. (That part puzzled me. Why would he fight for the side that could easily turn towards Chiss space? For that matter, the Empire is very anti nonhuman. Why fight for the side that regards you as inferior because of your birth?)

You should do an Alternate History scenario where Thrawn did return in 19 ABY.

So hey Ecko if you see this please respond. I have two ideas for you. The first one is how many buzz droids could it take to say overpower a star destroyer or for an accurate time a venator and the other idea is the T'au empire vs the galactic empire because this I believe would be an equal match up.

2 Harrower Dreadnaughts vs 1 Imperial Star Destroyer

Thrawn never really seemed like the evil bad guy to me. He would sacrifice lives of the military and civilians sure, but he would only do it if it served a purpose. He never wasted lives needlessly. Sacrifice the few to save the many , and all that. If anything he always seem to have a good sense of honor and nobility.

Anyone know the song name in the intro?

Makes me wonder what would happened if the Yuuzhan Vong met the Empire at full force.

I'm not super-big on the "Thrawn just wanted to save the galaxy" thing (though at a minimum I would say that he still probably as a preference for militarized autocracy over representative democracy, so that still keeps him in the villainy camp), but I like it a lot more than the claim that Palpatine's true goal was to be able to resist the Vong. If Palps wanted to fight the Vong, it would be because they wanted to take stuff that he wanted. No other reason.

Personally I like Thrawn being more of a grand strategist looking to the future of the galaxy. The new Thrawn book makes him kind of seem like this is a part of his character that is being brought back, which is awesome!

anyone got any suggestions for good books about thrawn

Are you doing some KOTOR battles in the future? Malachor V could be really interesting

The Imperium of Man vs the Forerunner empire (Halo vs Warhammer 40k)

(31th request) 1 CAS Class Assault Carrier with 4 CSS Class Battlecruisers and 4 SDV-class heavy corvettes VS 1 Bellator Class Super Star Destroyer (yes i look it up and the Bellator Class has Fighters about 100 of them) 4 Imperial 2 class Star Destroyers and 4 Dreadnought Class Heavy cruisers (theses ships use to be Victory 2 class Star Destroyers but that would give the Empire too much an edge in the battle so i made them Dreadnought class Heavy cruisers instated too make it equal in a way)

Yuzhan Vong attacc Yuzhan Vong protec But most importantly, Yuzhan Vong have high tecc

He was the Hero we needed, but didn't deserve.

Wait, are we going to see this in theaters?

Personally, had Thrawn approached key individuals in the New Republic (ie. Solo, Skywalkers, Antilles, Ackbar) and explained the threat, I think they might have joined him, or at least chose not to fight him. I think some would have also joined him or influenced others to join his cause. But the YV wouldnt have attacked when they did. They had been very strategic in their approach and time table. Thrawn being able to pull even a quarter of support from the NR or elsewhere would have pushed back the invasion. Albeit that civil war would have erupted then believing it was all a ruse, so either way, war it is.

#askeck How do you think Thrawn would have dealt with the Vong invasion, like what technologies or tactics would he have used or co-opted.

Type-47A(H2) scarab vs type-47B(H3,reach,odst) scarab vs Banished scarab vs Volatile scarab

You did not mention his sleeper cells that he had to protect individual systems, for example his Fel clones that helped the Republic at the battle of Bothawui

Please do the 2nd battle of geonosis or the battle of umbara

Even if we only considered Timothy Zahn's original trilogy, Thrawn wasn't really a villain. He was in no way the brutal dictator that the emperor, Vader and many more were. He was simply the leader of the imperial remnants and he was doing what he needed to be done to bring an end to this conflict. The only action he did that was somewhat villainous was killing one of his own officer for incompetence. He committed no war crimes, and simply fought for what he believed in.

While Thrawn could have concerns about some extra-galactic group, be it the Yuuzhan Vong or otherwise... it's really unlikely. As during the original Thrawn trilogy, he never makes any reference to the Yuuzhan Vong, not even to himself. It would be something that would add a certain level of depth to his character, but it was never applied during the Thrawn trilogy and Thrawn even states that the "only puzzle worth solving" being the destruction of the Rebellion/New Republic. If he was that aware of the Yuuzhan Vong going back before the Galactic Civil War, he would have certainly made some mention to it or at least given the hint that the greatest puzzle would be more with regard to unity and not the destruction of the Rebellion/New Republic. In this, I've generally found a lot of what was written on Thrawn AFTER "The Last Command" being something of a retcon to try and either make him seem more brilliant or to make it seem like he and the Galactic Empire were the REAL good guys of the original trilogy. Which is pointless in the long run... The idea of the Yuuzhan Vong invading isn't bad... but to make the claim that a major character somehow knew about them is something that gets silly. For example, the Yuuzhan Vong were supposed to exist outside the Force, and thus couldn't be sensed through it. Yet, a lot of the Legends material that came out on Thrawn after "the Last Command" not only made it seem like he was aware of something going on but that Palpatine was aware of it before Thrawn was. In this... it's silly.

There is a chance(or theory) that Thrawn had another clone whitch lived in time of Yusan Wongs wars. And it was him who manipulate the war to victory for sw galaxy.

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A more interesting and realistic plan would have been to negotiate a truce but not a ceasefire with the new republic. Maintain a heavily militarized border, causing the republic to also develop it's military, but don't attack. Yuuzhan Vong comes in behind Republic lines enslaving planets wrecking fleets etc, and then Thrawn comes in as a liberator bearing emergency relief aid to all the planets which the Republic had failed to protect.

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I think THrawn would have not faired well against the Yuuzhan Vong he didnt have know much about his enimies nor did he have the a unified galaxy

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Who do you think would win in a military campaign Grand Admiral Thrawn or Grand Moth Tarkin?

@rahul327

6 жыл бұрын

RadBadJad most probably Thrawn, considering that he's the greatest military mind in the galaxy, but it depends if you give Tarkin the Death Star or not

@FatalShadow13

5 жыл бұрын

I honestly would say Thrawn, even if you give Tarkin the Death Star. Thrawn was aware of the Death Star and what it was supposed to do, and he knew Tarkin and his tactics, more than likely he had seen the kind of art Tarkin admired. Tarkin was all about the big intimidating ships, star dreadnoughts and the Death Star being testament to that, Thrawn would have no problem turning that against him.

Honestly I much prefer a more complex character that is not so one sided. Star Wars is filled with characters who's only notable characteristic is domination and extermination. Thrawn is truly a breath of fresh air! I also think he would have handled the Vong better then the new republic simply by acting more decisively and attacking them at every opportunity rather than waiting for the "perfect" battle like the new republic did.

Yo just make this a thrawn fan channel honestly 😂 but for real i would like more thrawn videos

Thrawn was not bad, he was not like any other imperial officer and he wanted more confidence in his men rather than mostly himself. I would love to know what would have happened when Grand Admiral Thrawn commanded the Executor SSD on the Battle of Endor rather than that idiotic fool Firmus Piett (Thrawn would have rekt the rebels if you didnt know).