The name was right above the pronunciation, so it makes no sense why the speaker would get it wrong.

@jacobbellamy7640

Ай бұрын

I don't think that was literally the cards they had at graduation. Im pretty sure that wasn't the style of phonetics used either, it was probably IPA which looks like ɪˈlɪzəbəθ. (That's Elizabeth, which she also butchered).

@JenJHayden

Ай бұрын

@@jacobbellamy7640 3:16 so you're telling me the Tamron Hall producers showed a photo on the screen of a card with Sarah's name on it that wasn't real? It's possible but why would they do that? Look at 3:16 that is clearly a photo.

@jacobbellamy7640

Ай бұрын

​@@JenJHayden because they didn't have the original and so someone in their production team did a mockup of what it would possibly have looked like. The university almost certainly would have had it as a list rather than individual cards as well. But the thing which makes me pretty sure she got IPA pronounciations like the above is that her attempts matched pretty closely what someone unfamiliar with them would guess like saying 'I-Li-zabayo' when trying to say Elizabeth.

@JenJHayden

Ай бұрын

@@jacobbellamy7640 that is unfortunate

@HugoStiglitz88

Ай бұрын

Especially THIS wrong. Disgusting Perfect example of why DEI is so stupid. And it's also not fair to the people who benefit from it because this makes them all look bad even if they're not

His name is Thomas the name of the school is Thomas Jefferson University how did you screw that up

There is absolutely no excuse. She got them ALL wrong, even some very obvious and easy names.

I’m sorry Tamron but there is no excuse Sarah is Sarah is Sarah and Thomas is Thomas is Thomas the speaker should have look at the name period

@aletheafelton

Ай бұрын

Exactly.

@donotsupportterroristgroups

Ай бұрын

Tamron is trying to play devil advocate by being politically correct... that helps no one!

@HugoStiglitz88

Ай бұрын

Plus it's literally the name of the school lmfao

@Boredman567

Ай бұрын

My guess is the speaker was trying to get through the names faster by only looking at the phonetic spellings, and wasn't even looking at the normal spellings.

@PatrickMeltonOfficial

Ай бұрын

You really expected them to enforce any responsibility on the black woman? 🤪

Are you kidding me? The name was clearly printed. The woman reading couldn’t simply read the name without phonetic pronunciation. Is she unable to read?

@1btyflflwr

Ай бұрын

But my thing is, she didn't even read the phonetics correctly. If she had it would have STILL pronounced the name correctly 🤔

Those aren't even hard names to pronounce like what are they doing?😒

People were making it sound like only the pheonetic spelling was there, the actual name was clear as day right above that

Congratulations to the graduates of Tamomay Jafarsayun Univerfssss.

@mrskatlc

20 күн бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

Bro, that said Sarah Virginia Brennan. How you gonna make an excuse for that?

@jacobbellamy7640

Ай бұрын

You mean ˈsɛɚ.ə vɚˈd͡ʒɪn.jə brɛ́nən ? That's what the IPA phonetic spelling looks like.

@firstnamelastname7708

27 күн бұрын

Right. I literally cannot think of another way any of Sarah’s 3 names would be pronounced.

@Blue-100

22 күн бұрын

​@@jacobbellamy7640 even then they should have gotten someone who actually can read phonetic spelling and should have practiced beforehand

@KillTheCupcakes

22 күн бұрын

@@jacobbellamy7640are you slow? That’s not what was on the card.

Thomas had a little bit of sass and had to correct it 😂 the others just smiled and acted like nothing was wrong lol

So I graduated from this college 6 years ago. We had to indicate how our name was pronounced on the forms to graduate. Plus, there's many graduations for each separate college at Jefferson, like business, etc. This wasn't new, and no other speaker has messed up badly enough to make the news. She needs to stop blaming other people

Congratulations, Thomas and Sarah! 👨‍🎓👩‍🎓

@gtf5392

Ай бұрын

You mean Tamomay and Zaire?

A-aron, Jaquayline, Buhlakay.... iykyk 😅

@JenniferGormley

Ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@ritabuggthomas2696

29 күн бұрын

SCREEEEAMIN FOTFRLMAO!! GO TO PRINCIPAL O'SHACK'HENNESY OFFICE NOWWW‼️👀🙄🤓😆😝😊😅😅😅

@stoshmuru3321

23 күн бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking.

It’s not hard to read it phonetically either though. She was lying and trolling.

How can anyone mispronounce those names? English wasn't her first language.

@oiler62

Ай бұрын

It was her 47th language

@jacobbellamy7640

Ай бұрын

If it was written in IPA her attempted pronunciations make sense. Try and say these common english names yourself: ɪˈlɪzəbəθ ˈɔːbɹi ˈtɑ.məs duˈanə ˈmeɪɡən

Except that at the top of the card is the actual spelling, so no there is no excuse at all.

There's ZERO excuse for this! The names were on the top & should've been practiced hours prior so any corrections could've been made! This is why people should be hired on MERIT!

@chandraray7798

Ай бұрын

Practice? Who would think this requires practice in the first place?

@derrickpiche1119

Ай бұрын

@@chandraray7798 Why should a speaker have to know how to speak if they are diverse, and wrote a great essay about their struggles?

@chandraray7798

Ай бұрын

@@derrickpiche1119 I am saying this is something that wouldn't require practice in the first place. You would think they would be able to say a name like "thomas" without practice lol.

@melissabenson6749

Ай бұрын

@@chandraray7798 The person whose complete incompetence went viral!

@donotsupportterroristgroups

Ай бұрын

If a person knows how to read English there's no need to practice, she's just a dummy. She's so stupid she messed up the name Thomas....the name of the school!

trying their hardest to say this was not intentional.You only ready the phonetic spelling if you are not sure about whats up top.

There's NO EXCUSE for attempting to Ruin a Ceremony!The Presenter should have been INTELLIGENT ENOUGH to simply Read the Graduates' Names, which were written in BOLD PRINT at the top of the Card.. what a CLOWN! 🤡

@ritabuggthomas2696

29 күн бұрын

MY SENTIMENTS EXACTLY !!!

the university is literally called thomas jefferson university, how in the earth do you pronounce thomas wrong

If she apologized to me I would say: I accept your apology but how can a presumably educated person be so stupid?

It wasn't a mishap. Show her face. Even the card was readable, but the name was at the top.

@topherjn

Ай бұрын

User Was the persenter who mispronounced graduating students' names at Thomas Jefferson University a black woman? ChatGPT Yes, the presenter who mispronounced the names of graduating students at Thomas Jefferson University was a black woman named Kyra Hines. She apologized for the mispronunciations, which drew significant attention and criticism. I can't believe they let ChatGPT off the chain!

@hya2in8

23 күн бұрын

@@topherjnwhat are you saying man

Girl bye that explanation is absurd

It’s Thomas Jefferson University, if you don’t know Thomas the name, where have you been?

I’d definitely be worried about what my children learned if these were the people teaching them! Save your money folks and send your children to trade schools.

@skontheroad

Ай бұрын

It was a NURSING SCHOOL!! That is what's scary!

The excuses don't make sense at all. 1. Even if these were not proper given names (let alone many of them being common, including the name of the university), it's the norm to look at the top of the sheet first, and they were bolded for crying out loud. 2. The speaker still butchered the phonetic pronunciations. 3. How can a person in academia be that bad at reading?

There is NO EXCUSE! The phonetic option still " says" her name correctly. THAT was not confusing! Plus the traditional spelling was there. These were presented the same way other universities, colleges and schools do ALL around the country and they are successfully read. Come on Tamron!

what nonsense.

I don’t care about that card Tamron needs to stop trying to explain … this was inexcusable.

This CANNOT be the reason for this! The normal spelling of the name is RIGHT THERE at the top of each card right above the phonetic spelling. Why in the name of god would you keep reading the phonetic spellings when it was completely obvious that you couldn't read them?! WHY!!??? They are plainly lying right to our faces.

@jacobbellamy7640

Ай бұрын

?? The card on the show isn't literally what she was shown. I think it wasn't the same phonetic style either, it was probably done in IPA where Thomas is written as ˈtɑ.məs/. , and Elizabeth which she screwed up constantly is ɪˈlɪzəbəθ . That is far more plausible than the university acting out a key and peele sketch to mock their students at graduation.

@waynebollman

Ай бұрын

@@jacobbellamy7640 Why in the name of God would their normally spelled names not be on their frickin name cards? That doesn't make any sense at all.

@jacobbellamy7640

Ай бұрын

​@@waynebollman poor planning and/or miscommunication? It could be she was a stand in for someone else who preferred to have the names given in proper IPA because its completely unambiguous in how the names are meant to be pronounced, assuming someone knows how to read it. Its possible she requested the phonetic list of names, expecting ver-jin-yaa but got given vɚˈd͡ʒɪn.jə instead and hadn't checked the list before starting. I'm certain she got the IPA because she said 'Zabayo' when trying to say Elizabeth. You can see how someone got that from ɪˈlɪzəbəθ. Because what is the alternative explanation here? She is illiterate? She was having a stroke? She was intentionally mocking the students?

@LovelyEbony

29 күн бұрын

​@@jacobbellamy7640 she was mispronouncing the names on purpose, this happens literally all of the time to people of colour and so she saw her time to repay the favour. This was done out of protest but obviously the school would never admit to that, even assuming they know the truth about the situation. She could have easily lied and gave the phonetics arguement. Although I do think you're onto something, it's just highly unlikely she wouldn't have seen the list beforehand or had some other visual queue for the names.

@jacobbellamy7640

28 күн бұрын

@@LovelyEbony an intentional mocking of the students I would think is extremely extremely implausible and unlikely. Because that would be insane. If it was non-IPA phonetics with the persons name as normally written then the next most likely explanation is going to be it being a deer in headlights moment where messing up a couple of times resulted in mounting panic and additional mess ups which prevented her from even noticing the names in their normal form also being listed. Like that Miss South Carolina clip from the mid 2000s.

Congratulations to you both!! An amazing accomplishment and a little viral fame! Wishing you both all the luck in the world!

................how pathetic ..... to apologize from the presenter and the school...crap, this lady should have had the NAMES printed out....not some nonsense like 'phonetic' spelling....geez!

@georginawhitby1320

Ай бұрын

I don't think she can read

@Beth.Colvin

Ай бұрын

The names were printed out above the phonetic spelling.

The phonetic spellings were written correctly. The speaker simply couldn’t read words phonetically. SMH

It WAS intentional! Sue them!!

There is no excuse for this.

This really shows how hollow it is to receive a degree from people who are this incompetent. "It's all a joke." - The Comedian

The dumping down of America

Oh, come on! The person reading the names had the correct spelling in addition to the phonetic transcription. You are minimizing the IGNORANCE and buffoonery of the speaker. It wasn't a mishap. It was a car crash.

I have average intelligence and can pronounce those names easily. I can probably pronounce some foreign names fairly well too. This is embarrassing.

@skontheroad

Ай бұрын

I guarantee that you are a lot smarter than you think you are!

I thank Sarah for showing how the card was presented, with the real name at the top- otherwise the school and announcer would have gotten away with the implication that there were only phonetic spellings on it. And we can see that the announcer was also mispronouncing the phonetics. Also, people like Tamron keep trying to explain why they think it happened- why aren't school officials explaining? (Also, Tamron exaggerating the mispronunciation to try to make it seem reasonable is not helping- the ONLY part that would make sense to not get right is the Vuhr).

Crock of crap, and this paid pr moment is an embarrassment.

I guess this is when they will start using AI

Congratulations to both of you, sorry about the name 🪓 ⚒️ 🔨 ❤❤

Omg the printed names obviously weren’t there on the card during the ceremony…. Why they weren’t is beyond me

Wow! No wonder everyone passed teacher don't even know how to pronounce names. What type if education would you get if this is whats teaching u. Geeeez

Tamron: "You see why the mistake happened." Uh... No?

The phonetics were written perfectly so it's just 'another' level of Stupid from the Announcer. Why are they skirting around the issue?

What? No, I don't buy their excuse. It's more obvious to me that the person was either having a stroke or they don't know English names at all, whatsoever. Who works at an American school, but can't pronounce English names? Incredible.

Can-cel-led this show

Congratulations & your both adorable ❤❤❤

Was the announer high as a kite?

Tamron should have introduced them by their mispronounced names. LOL

You only use the phonetics if the name is complicated and you need it. These were basic names. I’m scared if this lady was a teacher…

Bullshit! Not at a university LOL

Where were the other professors and school officials? Those parents should get their money back.

His name is now Ta’mo-mae

One of the names she got very wrong was Thomas. At Thomas Jefferson University.

Tamron, girl....what? This makes no sense when the name is on the card....

Tamron: ''I empathise with that speaker.'' Really now? You could laugh, you could wonder, you could definitely criticise the poor choice of announcer of the (University) graduates...but one thing is simply too much - to empathise with the ignorance of the authorities who allow that carnage of the language to happened! And the blind compliance of the announcer to read from this crazy cards.This woke all-accepting american way has gone so far out and it's exhausting already.

You're so obvious in how you're trying to cover for the illiterate name caller.

@geoffpoole483

25 күн бұрын

I could understand the name caller stumbling over a name with unusual spelling (many Indian surnames are long and the reader would need to double-check before saying it) but most of the names called out were pretty straightforward. Messing up the first name of someone with the same forename as the person the university is named after is totally inexcusable.

I think we need to go back and take a look at how the speaker pronounces the names of the black graduates. This should give us a look as to whether it was intentional or not.

Having the correct spelling of their names above the phonetic spelling should have made her realize that she was mispronouncing them! I heard her apology and it was evident that she should have been able to read the names of the students since she graduated from college herself. Shame on her and the university for not being prepared beforehand by rehearsing the names and correcting any mispronunciations! It was an upsetting and possibly humiliating experience for the students whose names she slaughtered. UNBELIEVABLE!!!

@jacobbellamy7640

Ай бұрын

I don't think the card shown on the show is what they had at graduation and is just a mockup. If the names were right there she would have had them pointed out to her pretty quickly. I also think the phonetics she got was probably done in IPA, so instead of vir-jin-yah, she got vɚˈd͡ʒɪn.jə. I can't say for sure obviously, but it seems like a far more likely explanation than her being illiterate or doing it to mock the students graduating.

No no no no no. I read names off of the SAME cards for my University. You just also use your critical thinking skills to get it right! We also read at a much faster cadence, have less time to think about it, and barely make mistakes. It is a big deal for the graduates' names to be read correctly. It is their moment!

Why is she defending the speaker? These phonetic spellings are NOT hard to read 😭 They even have clear spaces between them that the speaker completely missed out… it’s quite disrespectful to blame it on the spelling when the normal version was right above it and the speaker clearly didn’t practise beforehand.

The phonetic spelling explanation does not make sense. Because that’s not even close to what it should’ve sounded like. This woman doesn’t seem to be an English speaker at all.

No excuse whatever for this. Did the announcer not practice at all? Not to mention: the phonetic spelling makes perfect sense to me.

Don't sympathize with the speaker-----the woman failed miserably on that stage. Not a mishap----total unprofessionalism and sheer stupidity.

Even the phonetic versions were pretty easy to pronounce, and that's the reason they gave the phonetic versions.... come on...

Tahmoo May looks gay

the usual suspects! send them to O Shaq Hennesey's office

“See why the mistake happened?” No…. No I don’t, seeing that the correct spelling was right over it! So either it was deliberate or that woman was too stupid to look slightly higher. I’m sorry if this sounds harsh but it’s kinda infuriating that they literally showed us the correct spelling was on that card and they don’t even mention it we’re just supposed to defend her smh

*Tamoomay Jefferson University

Was she actually illiterate?

Omg 😂

Diversity hire ladies and gentlemen 😂😂😂

Show is the speaker. I want to see what she looks like.

@liamsandal6360

Ай бұрын

Valerie Clary-Muronda, an obese black woman who teaches in the Thomas Jefferson University Nursing School.

names were in Bold at the top no excuse

LIE! The names were spelled exactly as the name is spelled ALONG WITH the phonetic breakdown.

Can Thomas tone down his cabaret moves? So unnecessary and inappropriate for the show.

It’s Thomas university. Why break it down like that. Whatever it’s called.

Diversity hiring at its finest. Stop making excuses.

hater move

there you have your diversity

DEI failure on stage

I believe the students were the culprits by writing their pronunciations of their names as a prank.

@biancag8617

Ай бұрын

The graduates didn't put the phonetic spelling on the cards. The school did that.

@markturner977

Ай бұрын

Robocop2u2 - yeah you also believe your mom was a virgin before she met your dad - well I’ve got news for you little buddy!

@liamsandal6360

Ай бұрын

You've got a lot of problems.

What a great advertisement for To May May Uni Nay Nay Ver Si Tay Tau

It’s like a terrible Mad Gab game. But it’s a legitimate excuse to the utter nonsense. I thought she was having some mini-stroke.

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