This Walmart MTB looks incredible, but is it really?
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Walmart is a place for cheap stuff, and so understandably their bikes are VERY cheaply made. I take no issue with that. My criticism has always been that they prioritize features that make the bike LOOK more impressive, but PERFORM worse. The Kent Trouvaille mountain bike is something different from Walmart. This bike has LESS features, and offers a ton of value for the price... or it least it looks that way. Today, we'll find out if this bike is really as impressive as it looks.
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I used to be an assembler for Huffy at department stores in high school, came from an XC race background, Huffy literally taught assemble quick, not perfect. You get paid per bike you assembled, nothing more. I used to get flack for being slower at assembly, but my bikes were perfect. I only stayed for 4 months, didn't like the idea they were pushing unsafe assembly.
@midship_nc
Жыл бұрын
Seems like a huge liability honestly. Treating a bicycle like a hamburger at McDonald's...both can kill you, but one can do it quickly lol.
@MikeR65
Жыл бұрын
I figured as much. But that cuts Into their profit margin.
@chromz234
Жыл бұрын
Yeah my brother worked in walmart assembling bikes and he says they don’t give a fuck lol
@BermPeakExpress
Жыл бұрын
You knew that the safety of some kid or commuter depended on your work. Good on you.
@danshilling4240
Жыл бұрын
We need more of this in today's world people doing a consistent quality job
As a person who grew up on cheap Walmart bikes, I thought it was part of the experience tuning all the loose bits, and balancing it out.
@Southernguitar74
4 ай бұрын
Well yes, it was part of the experience because you had no choice. LOL But hey, you learn a lot about repairs and maintenance growing up this way. I’ll bet you don’t have to pay a professional bike shop to fix things on your bikes.
@merlinmage6012
24 күн бұрын
Same or any bike imagine just getting on bike and ramping and end up in hospital not good i think i may have heard or even seen wheels come off funny when nobody hurt but theyre lucky some have got serious injuries.
@jamstarent21
4 күн бұрын
Same, you definitely have to tune and tighten bolts when getting a walmart bike
The amount of kickstands Seth must have 😂
I love the way he fixes the bike. Respect those skills 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Good Video!😊 Fan here from Philipines🇵🇭
the diamond back sponsor was a little step into this journey excited too see a variety of bikes in the future
When he said, ok now let's take off the kickstand. As a welder. I was horrified 😅
the wielded kick stand scene was so funny
It’s actually crazy to me that I’ve been watching your content for 5+ years now you are super consistent and very funny in my opinion. I’ve enjoyed learning more and more about bikes and RC “toys” and cried learning about Drama (he’s in a better place now) but over all I’m very glad to have found your channel and to have been with you during your journey from that old shed in Florida to the wonderful place we call Berm Peak.
@joewilson9884
Жыл бұрын
I've been watching for a similar amount of time and this is so true
@th_js
Жыл бұрын
Better place? Drama is dead. I think that is not better than being alive.
@th_js
Жыл бұрын
@@Ringo177 Sure....
@zdream720
Жыл бұрын
Look out there's a real genius in this thread...
@Fuzefromr6
Жыл бұрын
@@th_js having hope and being positive is nice for a change you should try it sometime
Going from Diamond back Bikes to walmart bikes is quite the step
@neilcrompton3488
Жыл бұрын
My local kmart sells diamond back bikes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@CRFSFORLIFE845
Жыл бұрын
Same my Kmart does to
@rileyhollandmtb
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@th_js
Жыл бұрын
Step up
@RedWingsninetyone
Жыл бұрын
@@neilcrompton3488 if I had to guess, you aren't seeing the high end DB bikes at KMart
Great video
Seth, I just learned about the Royce Union RHT. Perhaps candidate for your tests? Yew!
Reminds of my first Walmart bike back in 1995. Bought for commuting to college. Worked great until I went to pull back on the handle bars to get the front end up to clear a curb.....handle bars came up alright. Left the rest of bike like booster rockets on the space shuttle. Got well acquainted with the sidewalk.
@razy7609
Жыл бұрын
I cant imagine the amount of emotions and confusion that came from the moments after
@dudeinoakland
Жыл бұрын
For the general public, hilarity ensued.
@Blox117
Жыл бұрын
shouldnt be doing that regardless, ride up a ramp
@TwinShards
Жыл бұрын
@@Blox117 "ride up a ramp" Mtn bike aren't wheel chair or road race bike.
@Blox117
Жыл бұрын
@@TwinShards not sure if you are tarded. normal people ride up ramps near the sidewalk instead of trying to hump their bike to go over it. 2 wheelers arent meant for whatever you tards seem to believe
The sudden, dramatic music, the camera shifting between the bike and Seth’s eyes, the immediate clip change to Seth with a saw. The kickstand scene was cinematography at it’s highest level. Oscar worthy. 😂
@nevdawggnarlypants1600
Жыл бұрын
Frickin funny
@mikekoz6351
Жыл бұрын
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ I am better than Jesus.
@thetvbaby83
Жыл бұрын
@@mikekoz6351 yes you are! I am also. Peace ✌ hahaha 😆
@JonnyFlash80
Жыл бұрын
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ No
@Gromitdog1
Жыл бұрын
That was a bit overkill. Simply unbolting the kickstand and replacing it would have sufficed.
Hendersonville ❤️
That kick stand was crazy!
I worked at a department store, and I mentioned during my interview I could definitely assemble a bike. Well, I got my chance and my boss offered me 1 hour of overtime to build some bikes and I only got 2 done. I'm not sure the first one was really good to go, and the 2nd wasn't set up at all really and I was rushing. It was 'together' My boss came in and saw that I only had 1 'done' and was working on another, and he stopped me and that was the last time I got to. I did not meet his quota, he expected 10 bikes to be unboxed and ready for shelves in an hour. It is a rough world, minimum wage jobs.
@svnbit8408
Жыл бұрын
He was just recruiting for army rangers the position gets vacated often 10 chutes. 1 bike builder, 9 max usually watch from cover. They refuse to use foldable or electric bikes they could be like chuck Norris Delta force but silent and frugal like some Amish with missiles. Itll always be one guy they're like frat boys initiating and just mourn and move if another bike pro is trying wheels out in the middle of a field and the team is playing Parcheesi or taking black powder ale bombs like an Amish spring break. Strange I've never known an Amish ranger just 82nd airborne they're full of the beard exemptions and they look goofy ah after diving from 30k feet, like a wispy octopus mounted Rambo's head. Yeah you dodged a bullet, that manager probably took a bullet for you he probably didn't want you to mourn his death and be in a cosmic kharma loop overcompensating in each reincarnation until you get another shot for valor at the gates of Valhalla. Don't be so hard on yourself I can do 5 in that same time iit just take a little skill that you have to build from a foundation of skill you are born with. I just saved you the vanquish of going through that timeline and doubling down on the slow toxic accumulation and prophetic failure which peaks early before that sharp parabolic drop a selfie with a tad of moonwalk makes for a graceful half swan dive. Is what's it is maybe mercy was going out at the beginning, everyone is different but we're all linked by the shared hindsight of wishing we had died earlier because suicide is awkward now it's only natural to want to end an empty life, I can totally relate to that, after having accomplished everything ive set out to do I feel so content I feel like why not go out on my terms, the criminal amounts of vanity I've expressed would have sent my soul into that of a small rodent or mammal, another challenge I would intent to take head on if I were so inclined. Best wishes you got this forward backward they both suck enjoy yourself today in the service of fellow man let the rudder go let the love flow you're right where you need to be, the best position to allow yourself to get lucky, you're like a swarmy speed after running a numbers game but you're not cringe you're just the perfect singularity of inward and outward perception, and no shame being a beacon of positivity. You got this, and thank you I feel like my tendency to lie pathologically was gone yesterday and all this truth is like a clean firmware install, no corruption whatsoever and that is humbling seeing I purposely took on the persona out of intellectual curiosity of being forced into a criminal life by myself as the future megachurch pastor who struggled then gave his heart to God after many feints which led to frustration and a scrap down at the junkyard level where God was so humbled or embarrassed he made me an honorary demigod likely to save face, which reaffirms my word as bond above and furthermore I told everyone about our bonding over our completive and Irish blood, I just couldn't hold the truth back especially when its not something to hide god can be proud of his human nature. Have a blessed one, not like in a god like Steven Segall dali Lama way, the humble way. All the balance brother, -Burt Tmarcus McGillicutty II
@owenparker6651
Жыл бұрын
@@svnbit8408 Man, life must be a riot in your world! Enjoy!
@MrDisgruntledGamer1
Жыл бұрын
@@svnbit8408 omg this comment is amazing, what a way with words. 😂👍
@vanimaladventures
Жыл бұрын
@@svnbit8408 my newest copypasta
@RealJohnnyDingo
Жыл бұрын
no wonder! that's mildly depressing.
Seth, you’ve come a long way, really proud of your journey, I remember in 2016 watching your videos back home learning how to do tricks on a bmx to bike hacks, cheers and here’s to more!💯👍
The Kickstand mount!!!
That kickstand segment was bloody hilarious!
I recognise those rear dropouts and seat-stays, as well as that headtube. I'd put money on it that it comes from XDS. Reid Cycles used a variant of this frame on their $1600 XC bike, which was equipped with a full XT drivetrain and a Fox 32 fork, with an updated version later getting through axles at both ends!
@BermPeakExpress
Жыл бұрын
It’s very very possible they sourced this frame from a factory that already makes them. I don’t know anything about it, but wouldn’t be surprised!
@FreeTimeFeats
Жыл бұрын
Pinkbike went and tried to make their own bike once, and found that Chinese frame manufacturers have catalogs of pre-made frame you pick from and throw your logo on
@46fut
Жыл бұрын
Are XDS bike frames good? I'm asking cause I've been looking for a road bike, and they're in my budget.
@amountainbiker2654
Жыл бұрын
@@46fut look at poseidon
@Mclovinthedank
Жыл бұрын
@@amountainbiker2654 I have nearly 10,000 miles on my poseidon X. Everyone I ride with is amazed when I tell them its a $700 bike.
I happen to work at one of these big department stores as a janitor, and as someone who depends on her bike to get around town most of the time I go out, I'm often shocked and appalled how often I find little parts (usually bearings, bearing balls, bolts, nuts, etc) on the floor in and around the bike assembler station. My expectations were low, but this department store still manages to disappoint.
@ej1_drew
Жыл бұрын
😭
@colinmcdonald2499
Жыл бұрын
Your position pays better I hope.
@tonnitropartas
Жыл бұрын
I used to assemble products for a company that worked with major US retailers. We really do not care about the end result of the product as long as it got assembled. You get paid per item assembled, so the faster you work the more you get paid. It was very bad pay too. We were always busting bolts on with impact until it was tight. After working for them for a short period, I won't buy pre assembled things from stores
@NonLegitNation2
Жыл бұрын
I work at Target as a bike assembler and I understand what you are saying. The bolts and nuts may have been from a box of spares, at my store if we get a bike in that is messed up beyond repair from the factory we strip it of all usable parts and defect the frame out that way we will have extra parts to fix little things that may be wrong on other bikes. Just 2 days ago i was assembling 2 Schwinn's and each of them had a ball bearing in the front wheel axle hole, I only realized it was in there when i slipped the QR skewer through it and the ball bearing came rolling out. I took apart the hub and sure enough each one was missing a ball bearing. I put the ball bearings back in and it was good to go. I love working on bikes so I actually take the time to do it correctly especially knowing that this is something that a person is going to ride on.
@Anthony-uz5tj
Жыл бұрын
chances are the barring's are from kids bikes they fall right out you have to take the balls put them back in and grease it to keep it in place while you install the stem. its mostly going to be small kids riding those bikes its insane to me they dont take it more seriously
that kick stand bit killed me, cheers
Very honest review. Loved it.
Hello Seth,am hooked up from Nairobi Kenya 🇰🇪 and i must say i am packed with hacks and tips and mechanics to strengthen my bond between my bikes.i have a 29er and a roadie and your videos from both channels have been invaluable in helping me maintain them…although am not able to get most gears and tools..but i manage well what i have here..🥂.cheers to many more educative and entertaining videos👊👊🙌🙌
thank you, I'm almost 40years old and I used to race downhill back in the days. now with kids and life happen I don't have sponsorship to give me 3k bike so your video help me alot to get something reasonable. can't wait for part 2 !
Gracias por el vídeo. Fue muy informativo.
I have this bike, but it’s branded Mongoose. NOICE!
Great video, when I got back into biking I bought a Walmart mongoose hardtail. It was enexpensive but upgradable at the time. So I did a few upgrades (bottom bracket, crank set, forks, bars, stem, and new lever shifters) as needed until I could get a proper bike frame, and moved the upgraded parts to it.
8:02 that was the right thing to do seth, that was the right thing...
Oh no Seth found out how to use the explosion edit😅😂
This is awesome!
I needed a good pick-me-up this morning and seeing this at the top of my feed really did it for me. Thanks, man.
Another great video Seth…been watching your content for a little over two years now, and am always impressed by your scripts, content, and delivery. My son and I started a bike shop back in 2020 as a side hustle, and it’s turned into almost our full time job. Anyway, we have loved watching your videos along the way…Keep up the good work! BTW …just walked into my local Walmart here in Castle Rock, CO and saw an all Carbon 29er…for about $600. 😳. May be the next one to test…
@uraniumjoe
Жыл бұрын
Ooh awesome, what's your bike shop called? Will have to stop by next time I'm in C-Rock. Also, you share your name with a great metal musician - one of the best! 🤘
@michaelsweet6655
Жыл бұрын
@@uraniumjoe Revival Bikes! As of now we are a home-based shop… Specialize in renewing and restoring bikes
@TristramSavage
Жыл бұрын
Shout out to Castle Rock...I went to Griffith Center for Boys🙄 in Larkspur in the '80s... wouldn't recommend it. Lol
@ctsingletrack
Жыл бұрын
I remember seeing a review about a carbon Walmart bike a while back. I think it was around $800. The problem was that it was so darn heavy, it kind of defeated the purpose of going carbon.
In Romania we have full suspension Mtb's at 120$ :)))
I laughed at the kickstand section of this video. That was hilarious.
Seth, as a former lead mechanic, I feel you have an obligation to those that watch your videos to let them know, that for any bike of suspect origin, they should put a wrench on every nut and bolt and make sure that nothing is loose. I have wrenched on some of the best brands in the industry and have found that every one makes mistakes. A simple check fixes so many gremlins later on and keeps new riders in the game. What you said about checking the brakes and other components is "spot on". Thank you for what you do.
@bobbyhempel1513
Жыл бұрын
@@paddor not just the USA.
@blade1994111able
Жыл бұрын
As a former production manager for a big brand, Cape Epic mechanic and current warranty manager for 25 cycling brands in our region, I can confirm that on even the most premium brands, out of the box all most every bolt will not be torqued and most parts needing grease won't have grease. The only brand that has blown me away consistently has been Orbea. Oh, and I've been to most of the factories in Asia and have seen what brands are produced at what factories
@-tr0n
Жыл бұрын
Hell, I just brought home a Specialized for $4200 and I torque checked every single nut and bolt on the bike. Most were good, but it's peace of mind. As an equipment tech, I trust no one.
@Mudnuri
Жыл бұрын
at 1:25 he kind of says not to trust the bike as is.
@colinjava8447
Жыл бұрын
Even my RIbble R872 didn't have fully tightened chainring bolts, giving the occasionally very loud clang that took me a while to diagnose. Donno if Shimano or Ribble is to blame there, maybe both.
This bike is PERFECT for someone who wants to get into mountain biking as long as you have a friend or a shop who can tune it up for you. It doesn't break the bank and if you decide mountain biking isn't for you anymore you didn't hurt your pockets too much and can sell it off the next rider at an affordable price. This is seriously awesome to see.
@abc-eq9so
Жыл бұрын
That was my thought as well. I also bought a bike for the same amount of money here in Sweden back in 2018. Now I ride a Trek Slash 8 2021 :D And I love MTB.
@mikeFPS1980
Жыл бұрын
You’re better off buying a higher quality used mountain bike on craigslist or FB marketplace than anything new from a big box store for that price!
@PabzRoz
Жыл бұрын
@@mikeFPS1980 You would already have to be into mountain biking to know what is good and what is not good and what is worth it in the used market. And even then good used bikes are still more expensive then this. This bike avoids all of that for a new rider who wants to try out the sport.
@IsmailHBolur
Жыл бұрын
@@mikeFPS1980 what’s a good used mountain bike that I should be on the lookout for on craigslist mate
@topchoice1621
Жыл бұрын
@@mikeFPS1980 Facebook market place does have some good bikes but the prices are high on some
My Dad was a bike mechanic all of his life in Sacramento im english but i remember everything he taught me including truing wheels etc its come in very useful 😂
My brother bought two Jeep dual suspension bikes in the late 90s. He got really mad when I told him the front shock was on backwards and said he paid $700 each for them. He later bought a hardtail Trek and put some racks on it.
I was an assembler at Walmart in Jackson Michigan and took alot of pride knowing I did them right, unlike the other 2 assemblers they had. use too see so much nonsense strait out of the box. I got in so much trouble for re-doing what the factory did and eventually got fired for not putting poor assembled bikes out on the floor as fast as they wanted.
@brunorojas3992
Жыл бұрын
Capitalism done right, profits over safety. Its in all our jobs. Nurses work 24 hr shifts so do EMTs and then they get ticked for driving sleepy. But oh the police also have long shifts. But hey fuck logic. Productivity is more important than safety.
@MrBrokenTrucker
Жыл бұрын
@Wake Vulture As an ex-assembler myself, I want to let you know that, as far as walmart bikes are concerned, we don't fuss with the chain drive at all. Out of box, we put on the front wheel, handlebars, seat, some parts of the brakes/brake lines if applicable, which is rare, and pedals, with only bikes like cruisers getting extra parts in the fenders and other accessories like cupholders or baskets. If you find some fault in the bike that wasn't blatantly obvious, it's more than likely a manufacturing issue.
@stanislavpres5209
Жыл бұрын
@@brunorojas3992 it is not the capitalism, ist the people
@heavyearly2232
Жыл бұрын
I Transferred out of assembly into truck unloading for the same reason. I would pull the bikes TLE had assembled with loose pedals off the rack and fix them, and get static for it. Kent bikes had lots of bad parts at that point, mostly the 20" freestyle bikes.
@MrBrokenTrucker
Жыл бұрын
@@heavyearly2232 Kent bikes were some of the worst when I worked, too. Even some of their cruiser options were garbage. I think some of their larger stuff is much better now but the small 20" bikes still look kinda jank from what I've seen
So after watching this, I decided to pick one of these up. Price was reasonable, so for an entry level bike it made sense. My local store didn’t have this in stock, but it was available online. It came boxed and about 2/3rds assembled. Every issue you found,except the stripped grips, was present on my bike straight out of the box. This means every single bike assembled at the factory/packaging factory was done wrong… After confirming the chain routing, I rewatched this to make sure I didn’t miss anything. Great video.
@naterblade
Жыл бұрын
me to
@TubeYou7
Жыл бұрын
Horrible idea. You should have spent slightly more and got a GT aggressor from Dick's sporting goods. If I was you I would take that bike back and get an aggressor. Much better bike for a little more money.
@tuo1237
Жыл бұрын
@TubeYou7
Жыл бұрын
@@wojtek-33 wrong. The GT aggressor expert is $600 when not on sale. The GT aggressor pro with mechanical brakes is just under $500 and I think around 400 flat went on sale. I know it used to go on sale very frequently and it's way ahead of that Walmart junk with no kickstand to cut off. 🤣
@TubeYou7
Жыл бұрын
@@wojtek-33 when I look it up I'm getting 499.
Thanks video please make more of kind of video
This would be a great bike for someone who wants to upgrade over time
I did the same double take when I saw this bike at my local Walmart. Was contemplating getting it to use as a bar hopper or grocery getter!!
I just bought a Kent Trouvaille! I'm a begginer and I'm loving it so far. Mine came assembled very well, just needed to tighten the grips, turn a couple barrel adjusters and I was on the green trails having fun.
@nikounourbakhsh8433
Жыл бұрын
Did u check if your chain was routed right?
@NoahMazraani
Жыл бұрын
@@nikounourbakhsh8433 Yep! I checked right after this video.
@nikounourbakhsh8433
Жыл бұрын
@@NoahMazraani nice lol
I bought this bike and I absolutely love it 😀 I live in Florida so I just use on the street probably never going to use it for mountains
I’d love a video by Seth just detailing how to inspect a mountain bike for obvious problems
It would be cool to see a budget upgrades video on this bike (but with good quality parts). Like maybe an air fork (Rockshox Judy), dropper post (ie PNW), etc.
Great segway from the sponsorship video into something that’s really hot right now. KevCentral has a good series on these new Walmart bikes, but I’m interested in seeing if they can withstand your level of riding!
Not the welded on kickstand!😩🤣 Nice video!
It looks like the work of Billy Wong, the guy who put my friends e-bike together. I had to fix all kinds of madness before it was good. Damn you Billy! He might have been "chasing the dragon" when he put that puppy together.
You're spot on in the beginning, most bikes sold at Walmart are of questionable quality, but they field a few budget gems from time to time. The Mongoose Cachet and the Impakt Sidehack come to mind. The Cachet was a single speed road bike with a flip flop hub that retailed for about $150 and was comparable to $400-500 range entry single speeds at the time. The Sidehack was more an oddity than anything, but it was still super cool they stocked a bike like that. Also, as a former bike builder for Target, I'll echo some of the other comments here. It's a crapshoot who built your bike in store (we had some dudes who were huge into bikes, some had no experience and just wanted more hours) and even the best builder will be hampered by tool availability, available time, and the general state they come to the store in. No one wants you to leave the store with an unsafe bike, but we had about 20 minutes to get it all put together and tuned the best we can. If you can't go over it yourself, budget in a trip to a local bike store so they can do it for you.
@Mountainrock70
Жыл бұрын
The real Mom and Pop bike shops factor in their time spent assembling and tuning bike THE RIGHT WAY! Definitely something that’s worth paying extra money for.
Great video. I imagine you weren't allowed to review other bikes while you worked for diamond. I love this type video and hope you review every bike out there. Thanks for a great video.
@MikeR65
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree . The value he was getting from Diamondback probably was not worth keeping where his channel is evolving.
First time I've seen a master link like that! That's cool
😂😂😂the kick stand part make a good laugh 😂😂😂
I used to assemble bikes at target. I loved it I would take my time listen to music and then really test the bikes before I put it on the shelf. The only bummer was you barely had the right tools for the job. Sometimes a bike would come in broken or something would be just slightly out of wack, and with more tools could be easily adjusted, but we had the bare minimum and there wasn’t even a tool box to put them in. Just loose in a basket lol…😅
@jaymeseaston8117
Жыл бұрын
Go to Harbor-Fright or other and purchase. Spray paint them to establish ownership and allow you to do your best job for personal satisfaction. You'll always have the tools.
@pugmalley
Жыл бұрын
I would have brought a few of my own tools in and either bring them in when I'd assemble or if they have lockers for the employees.
@thesimplecooks
Жыл бұрын
@@jaymeseaston8117 paying out of pocket for tools to do your job on a Target wage? Not a great idea...
@standdown4929
Жыл бұрын
Jewelers are required to bring all of their own hand tools, torches, tanks, pliers, mandrel, molds, bench pin, etc. The stores provide the big equipment, polishing, ultra sonics, steamers, buddy burners, etc. You can move faster when you are used to your own tools.
@brianbackes4551
Жыл бұрын
Go to the hardware department and get some tools and give the upc to claims for store use.
Worked as an assembler as a teenager. I'll admit I was being paid per unit assembled so it was enticing to get them finished quickly. That being said, I basically lived on a mtb from the time I could ride and did my own maintenance so I was always keen to dial everything in before putting a bike on the shelf.
Great watch … great explanation
Great idea for a video, very interested to see how this thing fairs on a real DH test. I'll still stick with my used Norco that cost me less than this new bike, but I love the idea of lowering the barrier to entry.
I bought the Huffy Rock Creek 29 from Walmart for under $200 about five months ago. Of course the first thing I did was go over it (including changing the tire pressure from 10psi to 55psi). I got it as an inexpensive way for me to get around without a car, and don't plan on really going off road with it. I am quite happy with it so far.
@oldfart269
8 ай бұрын
I recently came across ( second hand) a Huffy Rock Creek 29" mountain bike.Brakes are bad. Left pedal crank is stripped. Because I don't yet know if the pedal crank itself is bad or if it's the pedal assembly going through the frame, I'm replacing the whole thing. I'll be honest, the bike looks abused, but some things just should not be.
I love when he seen the welded on kickstand bracket.
I love how you had to cut off the bracket
I would love to see the Trek 4900 back in action , and see seth upgrading the heck out of it not only is it a good video but also it shows how we can take an old mtb and turn it into new and I understand that flipbike is basically the same thing but…yeah
@SimonBauer7
Жыл бұрын
true. just for the nostalgia alone
@bikerdude923
Жыл бұрын
I just partly rebuilt an old specialized hardrock from like 2005 for my wife that I learned to ride on! Already had a decent fork on it from when I was riding it (had to rebuild it first though) and I re-used a set of old nice hydraulic breaks from an old DH bike of mine, then converted it to a 1x10, with deore derailleur and shifter, new tires, grips, pedals. Most of the other components I had upgraded over the years using parts from newer bikes when I upgraded those bikes. I forgot how addicting building bikes is untill I did that!
6:52, funny thing is if you go to the website link you listed for Kent, you can see in the demo pictures that they routed it wrong there too.
I have a Scott mtb and have had it for 2 years and is a very good bike can u do a review on a Scott mtb
bro when he cut the kick stand off i was so hyped
Last walmart "bike" I bought was a 45 pound behemoth of a 26" mtb that was simultaneously too small and too heavy.
Thanks for the quick review and warning! I'm 5'10", comfortable adjusting/assembling bikes, and want an affordable modern entry level mtb, but when I ordered this the other day for pick-up, Walmart cancelled my order today, saying it was OOS. I'm gonna try having it shipped next, but that would take a month. I've been contemplating this bike ever since kevcentral for the past month...
@meowist9299
Жыл бұрын
Maybe have a look at Decathlon instead
@Phrancis5
Жыл бұрын
@@meowist9299 I just don't see any decathalon or anything else under $500 that has an all aluminum frame, 1-by drive, decent brand coil fork, tapered head tube, short stem, slack geometry, at least 27.5" wheels, and disc brakes. I did buy the Schwinn Taff, which was an excellent value, but the frame was just too big and returned it for a Costco Northrock xc27 (made by Giant) for $400. It's actually built well, but has a 3x7 drive and slightly lesser suntour fork. I might just stick with it, since I apparently can't find or even order the Kent. Walmart cancelled my online order yesterday, saying they were suddenly OOS...
@EBikeBuilder_
Жыл бұрын
@@Phrancis5 what about a schwinn Axum? i think it comes in a medium and large
@bindingcurve
Жыл бұрын
@@Phrancis5 I had the Northrock and returned it. I tested this in the store and I like it much more. I may pick it up in the morning. If your 5 10 you will fit this much better.
@Phrancis5
Жыл бұрын
@@EBikeBuilder_ Yeah I looked at that, but it's a little more $ with a crappier fork and the med frame only comes with a dropper post and even more $.
About 10 years back I was doing a race in Clydesdale class, went out got some cheap af wallywurl blue/silver shwinn, finished first in my class
That stand tho and Seth loooking at ur
I routed my chain that way when I upgraded my specialized from a 2x9 to a 1x11. I've been riding it that way for years and I thought it looked weird but it never occurred to me that it was wrong. Ooops!
I really love how dramatic things got when the integrated kickstand started to sink in.
@DanielTaylorOCMD
11 ай бұрын
I'm scratching my head on that one. Why not leave the mount and just remove the stand? I bought a Trek Marlin 8 last month and it has one. Since plan to us this bike for touring It's one of the first I've ever had a stand on. I like this style over the old school blocks and bolts.
@YeetxBoi
2 ай бұрын
@@DanielTaylorOCMD he did it that way because the mounting hardware used was rivets and not hex key bolts like they should've been lol was easier to just cut it all off
About the bike not "being made for off road use" I think it's just for insurance purposes. I got a bike from Costco and assembled it myself, it said the same thing. I think it's bc most people that get a MTB from Walmart, haven't MTB'd before, therefore, they don't want you to get hurt and sue them
Should have used that kick stand mount as a camera mount! ;)
Axum came out a few years ago and had sized frames, a dropper seat post, 29er 2.6 tires, wide bars, short stem, tapered head tube... If you know how to do some bike mechanic work or have the drive to learn, these are better than low end treks or giants. Name brand bikes under 800 rarely have tapered head tubes. PS- Seth should collab with KevCentral!
@thefuck1742
Жыл бұрын
@Danbeater upgraded?
@hamldna
Жыл бұрын
I was about to say the same thing. There's so many great bikes out at Walmart that it makes you want to buy each one. I have 2 atm, Axum and Ledge X1. Both are fully upgraded and punches well above there reputation and price range. I also had the Hyper Hydroform and upgraded it to Kevcentral specs but sold it to buy the Axum. I'll get one of the Kents when the larger frames drop later
@schoolxing8367
Жыл бұрын
That bike is definitely quite a bit better then the one seen in this video after all, it is the king of Walmart bikes and always will be
@thefuck1742
Жыл бұрын
@@schoolxing8367 I'm thinking of buying one of them this weekend so should I get the Axum instead of the Intrepeid?
@schoolxing8367
Жыл бұрын
@@thefuck1742 I own the axum dp, it is incredible, best 500 dollars ever spent. And I'm not normally this positive either, but when it comes to this bike, I sure as hell am lol
While I'd never buy that thing I really appreciate the effort you put into making these videos. Thank you!
when I worked at Wally world on 2008 they had someone in store building the bikes
I’m coming back from not watching you for over a year. The quality of your videos has skyrocketed
6:54 I did that once with a new chain. Put like 50hrs on the bike and one day while I was cleaning the chain I realized 😂 it’s easy to fix. Just undo one bolt on the daraileur, reroute and bolt it back up. Also I definitely felt a reduction in friction, it was a lot easier to pedal with
I really wanted to see how they did with the grease on different bearings
"Have an awesome hotdog or a terrible lobster." quote just dug into me. I love it. Thank you for that! I'm gonna start using that quote
You a true bike guy
0:03 I remember that video, and Commented that I was an in house assembler employed for walmart and started greasing pedals and the older quill stems because of it. well, about 3 years ago, some pencil pusher at the Home Office in Bentonville got the "Bright" idea of outsourcing bicycle assembly (as well as any other in store assembly work) to third party companies like Assemblers Incorporated, Apollo Assembly, and other companies which they thought was cheaper than retaining the in house assemblers like me (in reality, those savings have been eaten up by the massive amount of bikes that have been returned BECAUSE of poor assembly or manufacturer defects, that have to be claimed out and destroyed.) those companies are paid by the item, so their incentive is to assemble as many items as quickly as possible, which is why you had the braking and shifting issues at 1:27; I'm still with Walmart, but i've graduated to being a service technician in their Auto Care Center with MUCH higher pay than I was making back then, and being able to finally use my 6 years of post secondary education I got from 2008-2014.
I just decided to get back into the sport after about 6 years. I was never serious about it when I used to ride, but I went the used route. Managed to pick up an older Rocky Mountain Etsx-50 for 400 bucks. Taking it to the shop this week for a tune up and hitting the trails this weekend! Hope I don’t die lol
Awesome - thank you for this review
Great video and I did learn something-- 1000 thanks 🙏
7:20 Usually you can fix the routing through the derailleur without breaking the chain by removing one wheel. Then one side of the pulley can be turned around the axle of the other wheel, splitting it open. Been there, done that :-D
@MissionaryForMexico
Жыл бұрын
You beat me to the fix! I used to assemble and repair, tune bikes for sears back during my high school year's!
@spyder027
Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@Spookyb329
Жыл бұрын
But with that, runs the risk of the jockey wheel loosening again and causing the mech to jam and either rotate around the cassette, and/or into the spokes. I've done it but its easier to split the chain than start threadlocking jockey wheel bolts :)
@Gregorius421
Жыл бұрын
Usually I just roll with it, had no problem yet, but thread-locking jockey wheel bolts seems to be a thought to ponder.
I remember riding walmart bikes growing up, they weren't too great. Enough to get me wherever I was going as a teen, but I recently bought my first "real bike" from a bike store, and the quality difference is mind blowing. Of course you get what you pay for, but still.
@CPD0123a
Жыл бұрын
The thing is, the quality of the Walmart bikes, at least on the upper end, has also gone way up. I thought for sure he'd be looking at a Schwinn, since they're putting out some fantastic bikes right now too, but I see that Kent is also finally getting into making good bikes. The real trick with these bikes, though, is in how you can buy one cheap, then upgrade it later. Better fork, better wheels, better this, better that, and over time you can end up with a real killer bike, while growing and riding with it the whole time, instead of saving up for months without a bike at all!
Thanks for the info re: CST = Maxxis!
Great content as usual. Makes me wish the Walmart in our area sold these kinds of bikes however they are all Hyper or Super Cycle brands.
@EBikeBuilder_
Жыл бұрын
when these type of bikes make it into the store, it's often a return from an online order. If you order these bikes online its free shipping, and you can return it at any walmart for a full refund, or they will have fedex come pick the bike up
You know, I never even thought about assemblers handling these bikes at the big box stores. Probably explains all of the problematic childhood bikes that were in and out of my family when I was a kid. I always thought they were just crap bikes, but they probably were OK when assembled correctly. I guess the good thing that came out of it is my Huffy bicycle breaking itself every other day encouraged me to start wrenching on stuff when I was only like 8 years old.
@tommycooperfish
Жыл бұрын
You could get the best machine in the world and it's going to last a few weeks/months tops if you don't know how to maintain it. I also started learning mechanics very young on very crappy bikes and now I can make decent bikes last years on very low running cost (case point: I currently have a YT that is coming up on 3 years old that I have ridden nigh on every day (sans 4 months dues to injury haha) and running costs in total is about 2 dollars a day total cost and that's mainly tires/cassettes/chains and the odd pot of silkolene). It's a blessing to be honest and the main thing I think that puts beginners off this sport is perceived cost, but as Seth shows so well it's mainly just lack of understanding/knowledge, it's one of the cheapest, most accessible high octane sports out there only really surfing and skating is better value. Aint many activities that 2 dollary doos can get you that give you the thrill this does :)
@southworthmedia
Жыл бұрын
As someone who as worked as an assembler I’ll just tell you these bikes are such shit quality it’s impossible to get them right.
@DG-sc1yu
Жыл бұрын
Thank you for saying big box store instead of department store.
You are too good, man. Glad you can make a living making KZread videos, and I mean that. Thanks, man.
He took that kickstand personally
I grew up riding Walmart bikes as it was all my parents could afford. I learned to work on my bike as well. I used to get teased by even adults during rides for riding my pride and joy. I rode a 168 mile ride on my Walmart bike and got to the end before some of the adults on their expensive road bikes. I made sure to let the ones that teased me about my bike know that it isn't just the bike that makes the difference when I was standing at the finish line when they eventually got there. I still enjoy biking and have a few bikes from the late 90s that I ride often but never judge other people's bikes.
@plusbonus1165
Жыл бұрын
Same here . Every bike I get I can't help but modify, so often times it's the cheapest generic bike that's the best Groundbase option. Good job.
@michaelpalm2210
Жыл бұрын
I am still riding a schwinn mountain bike that I bought in 1993.....
@stephenreverski2390
Жыл бұрын
same with me, except I knew nothing about fixing or modifying the bike. Rode it how it came for several years, even completing 60-70 mile rides averaging
@deezeejoey
Жыл бұрын
Good old Walmart Huffy and Magna bikes.
@mrski4945
Жыл бұрын
I can relate to that. I'm a roadie, but now I'm interested in getting into some bikepacking. None of my road bikes are up to that task, there all race bikes that can't handle anything over a 700 x 28 tire. But I do have a old 1980s Murray ATB that runs great, so that's going to be my starter for some dirt/gravel bikepacking overnighters, can't wait to hear the criticism, but the bike was a freebie from a friend, I've serviced it, and have been riding it, just as a commuter bike, for the past 10 years! So gonna give it a try, I figure why not? At about 40 years old and still riding good, it can't be all that bad on beginner dirt, and gravel roads.
I rode street BMX for over 20 years. I haven't been on a mountain bike since I was a kid. So when I saw this video, I decided to get one given the price point. Been 10 years since I rode (40 now). During my 20's I was also big into 4x4 offroading in my Troopers. So getting into mountain biking just seems like a natural step at this point. I have zero regrets, I love this bike. I don't need anything fancy right now. I just want something to get me back into riding, and out into the woods. Honestly, having a budget starter bike will give me a great understanding of modern MTB technology compared to what it was back in the 90's. I'll be able to get a good feel for where I need more from the bike, and where It works well. So I can upgrade accordingly over time.
7:47 is pure cinema
The kickstand bit LMAO (subscribed)
that's probably the best geometry I've seen on a walmart bike.
@davekal
Жыл бұрын
From a far it looks.... Normal. Pretty crazy.
The frame is 16.25.. The two main issues to be addressed are - The brakes are one pot, whose caliper, bends the disk towards another stationary caliper for break engagement, so there’s a lost in breaking power because it has to do the job of flexing/bending the rotor first. Mine came with either the front wheel not true or the rotor a bit bent because when I set the break about .5mm away from the stationary caliper, (so the pot doesn’t have to do so punch work bending the disk) I get a bit of the rotor rubbing on the stationary caliper for about 2-3 spokes.. Don’t mind because I’ll putting Shimano hydraulic on the bike. The second issue which is of more concern is the hub engagement, it’s so bad that my feet bounces of the pedals when down shifting. So I need to either upgrade the hub (learn to lace and true) or buy a new rear rim. All that said, I really love this bike. Yes the tires are big but the frame fits my 30” inseam, with about 2” clearance when standing. The Axum frames are 18-19 with a top tube that’s not as aggressive an angle. Trouvaille is one of the best entry level bikes on the market for budget builders - in price, components, features and geometry..
@GeorgeLoch
Жыл бұрын
Did you buy this before Seth's video?
@StarChild.no1
Жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeLoch Well Seth’s video is only a few hours.. I’ve had mine about a week now..
@StarChild.no1
Жыл бұрын
@@justu2bnit17 Yes it’s pathetic.. When Kent first listed the bike (pre Walmart) to the budget builder community, they had hydraulic (Tektro) breaks in the feature list along with a 1x10 drivetrain. That was bait and switch but for clarity sake, the budget big box community called them out so I kind of was aware that the break had to be upgraded eventually. What I wasn’t aware of is the type of mechanical breaks that required bending the rotor to come in contact with the stationary (non pot) caliper.. That’s a massive loss of breaking energy to push the rotor about 2mm to the other side of the break. It also means that the rotor will be, not optimal for upgrading to say Deore breaks. Kent made the changes to the Trouvaille’s big brother, the Intrepid which cost $250 more but a better deal for budget builders that do upgrades over a longer period..
@destinhook3826
Жыл бұрын
@@StarChild.no1 they actually messed up on the description and listed the new Giordano’s specs under the Trouvaille.
@hunterjackson802
Жыл бұрын
My hub isnt bad, gonna replace anyway do you know the size of the freehub? Gonna throw a Onyx on .