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To me its crazy that the “Value” level is in the multi thousands.

@waldowsxxghostxx8577

11 ай бұрын

Actually their not bad price in the near $5k with shimano Xt group set anywhere from fox performance elite to rockshox lyric ultimate or ohlins rcf36 air suspension not bad but their are better options for less with similar components

@thetir0

11 ай бұрын

@@waldowsxxghostxx8577 you know, thats how much I paid for my car. Price is ridiculous.

@leopastel

11 ай бұрын

i’m in shock 🤣

@timlpld9784

11 ай бұрын

​@@thetir0a car is something completely different tho, a full suspension bike is a high end product that start from at Least 2.5k if u want something good You can't get a supercar for 5k lmfao

@thetir0

11 ай бұрын

@@timlpld9784 2.5k is the value level, the equivalent of a Toyota Yaris.

The tens of thousands of dollars I’ve spent on MTB over the 30+ years of riding it has bought me- sweet bikes, countless good memories of riding incredible trails, seeing beautiful views from the tops of mountain peaks, met new friends and great people, kept me in great shape for a 52 year old, given me a permanent grin when thinking about my bike, thought me about engineering and manufacturing, given me injuries that make me smile when remembering how I got them, and given me zen like peace when riding in the quite forest…… money well spent and worth every single penny. If you’re one that complains about the prices of MTBs then I guess it’s just not for you…. Or maybe try a used bike and see where that takes you. Some objects are worth more than the sum of their parts, and imo MTBs are one of those

@bikeislife8405

4 ай бұрын

I see your point on the return on investment.. however, bikes that are more value driven enable more people to grow the hobby and stay in that awesome shape you touched on, for some families 3-4,500 on a bike is a massive deterrent. I’ve run into this situation trying to get a friend riding, hard to sell the value of a bike if someone’s never tried it. Overall, as the demand grows it will only benefit all of us as scales of economy play a large part. Gatekeeing something you love never adds to the fun in my experience.

@user-kq6ju6hc1w

Ай бұрын

@@bikeislife8405 I agree! McDonald's employees should be able to afford a Lamborghini!

@thetir0

Ай бұрын

Lack of funds to purchase the “Value” level bikes has not stopped me from enjoying mountain biking, guys like you probably turn their noses up at the bikes I have had and currently ride. I began with restoring a derelict Schwinn Frontier, then moved “up” to a DiamondBack Sorrento. My current bike is a 90s Cannondale Cad2 with Rocksshox Judy fork. I rescued it for $15 from a thrift store, relaced the rear rim and rebuilt the shock. I might have $250 into it. I’m not gonna blast past anyone on the trails but I’m gonna be out there enjoying it all for much less that 10s of thousands of dollars.

@bikeislife8405

Ай бұрын

@@user-kq6ju6hc1w No need to be sarcastic, I’m trying to say, you can get a damn good bike used for cheap and ride the same trails. You don’t get a 10x better bike for 10x more money, there’s a sweet spot.

Internal cable routing is really good looking and clean, but the external is so much easier to work on. It's a feature I wish more brands would implement.

@Whateva67

7 ай бұрын

Yeah,they used to. Everyone thinks newer is better. Not always the case.

I’m stoked I came across this video. You’re truly one of the best, succinct, and most objective experts reviewing bikes in this category by far. You rock brother and keep up the outstanding vids.

i don't mind external cable routing, but love the internal looks... combo, internal cable shifter and dropper remote, while external hydrolic hose, love it love it...

I got a T8 on sale in Oz for $2600aud about 3mths ago…that’s about $1700usd! With the mad savings I spent about a grand & upgraded, bars, grips, brakes, tyres, BB, pedals, stem, dropper remote & headset. I also stripped it back to bare metal and had it powdercoated. (Love building bikes) So for approx $2400usd, I have an absolute beast of a trail bike for unbeatable value for money. I absolutely love it.

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Wow!💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻😳

Great video…just what I needed. Thanks!

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Aaron!🤜🏼🤛🏼

I have 2 fat bikes. I bought both second hand here in the UK. Frames had a few scratches but no dents. Bought quality 2nd wheels, upgraded the drivetrains when the originals wore out. Brakes are XT and SRAM level. All 4 pot. My fat tyres ( I have about 10) are mainly 2nd hand. Each bike all up cost me about £1300. I love them and I ride almost every day. No need to buy new.

I have no problem with mix match suspension, if anything it’s a great way to test out two different brands! My Giant trance 29er has a fox 36 up front and a DVO topaz out back! Bike looks beast!💯

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

I had a trance before my Commencal meta… loved it!👌🏻

External routing is superior for maintenance purposes and upgrades. If you want to pretty it up, get colored housings to match your bike.

Thank you! Great video!

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

No probs! Cheers!

mismatching brands for suspension only matters for aesthetics. Dialing your suspension in is waaay more important. After you do that and point your bike downhill, the different labels disappear. Especially since you can't see your rear shock while you ride. Currently on a Fox X2 and Zeb Ultimate. So much fun. ;)

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Cheers! 🤜🏼🤛🏼

@mikestivers8302

Жыл бұрын

true dat. i have a lyrik ultimate/dvo jade x on one bike and a lyrik/kitsuma air on another. mixing wheel brands tho, i cannot accept

I’ve had a 2021 Giant Trance X 2 29 for about 2 years now. It’s sick! I made several upgrades including Float X shock, i9 wheelset, better cockpit, more robust/grippy tires with a rear insert, and better dropper. Making progress better than I have on other bikes. Running lots of spacers in the back because of how linear the suspension is, and no spacers and high pressure in front (Fox Rhythm on 2021 model) to keep it slack and high in travel. only run it in the high mode for the Maestro suspension, otherwise bottom bracket was low af. Excellent bike. My only complaint is that I couldn’t buy one earlier.

@TopToBottomMTB

8 ай бұрын

Sounds like a sick build!👌🏻

Picked up a Status 160 about a month ago for that sale price of $2,250 and have been loving it! I was worried 160 might be too much for the climbs, but has proven to be a very capable all trail bike with such a fun aspect to it on the downhills!!

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Sick!

@topspot4834

Жыл бұрын

I've been riding a lot of bike parks in the Northeast this season (Thunder, Mountain Creek & Highland) and have seen at least 5-6 Status 160s ... Seem extremely capable and kinda surprised to see so much value from Specialized.

@shadowlock275

11 ай бұрын

Where are you guys finding that price.? On there web site it’s $3999

@hughkim4989

10 ай бұрын

160 should be 2999 by now. Both 160 and 140 used to be sold for 2249. 140 still the case but 160 got back to the msrp. Now sure where you got 3999.

@paulmaul

7 ай бұрын

What brand is “Common-Saw”??? 😂

Was actually tossing up between the commencal meta tr and am when i decided on the meta am after watching your vid on yours! Knew you'd have a commy in here somewhere 😅

I like that you cover some brands outside the big names- gives me a few to investigate. I agree with comments that it seems nuts that budget is 3000 and below, but I know you don’t set the price and I appreciate your upper ceiling.

External cable routing is the GOAT! Both Vitus and Kona are now doing it and there are really no downsides except looks. It's so much easier to work with and upgrade for mechanics and riders. It's also cheaper to assemble, helping keep the price down.

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@rrolleman4879

Жыл бұрын

Good internal cable routing is easier to work on than unscrewing multiple cable holders or using zipties. Crappy internal routing, though, is brutal.

@ondrejmanych5688

Жыл бұрын

people demand that. Also Kona Honzo does external too. Customers just want it that way. I understand why.

@Lion-hj7ch

Жыл бұрын

Dumb

@jameswilson2815

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree brother. What's looks without function? Aloha.😎🤙

I don’t mind the different suspension. I’m loving my Lyrik Ultimate up front and Float X rear. Rides smooooooth.

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Noice👌🏻

@HashFather

6 ай бұрын

the only problem i could see there being with this is when it comes to maintenance having to get different seals and fluid and stuff. Could be wrong though lol, i’ve never serviced my suspension myself and i have cheap sun your suspension lol.

Yes, I like external cable routing because my current Felt has external cable routing.

Great selection of bikes here 🔥, these bikes will have you laughing on the trails

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Oh for sure 🤣

Thanks for this video. I prefer deluxe rear and rhythm front suspension with a rear brake external routing

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Cheers!

As somebody who builds up and works on his bikes I prefer external cable routing. And I personaly also like the rough look of it. I think a mountain bike should look more like a off road machine than a slick road race car - but that's just my personal taste in design.

Great review!

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Cheers Ben! Just trying to help new-comers to our wonderful sport start off with a quality bike! 🤜🏼🤛🏼

I was looking at the T8 the other day at MEC, looks sweet

Nice video!

Mixing and matching suspension is actually a good thing, with the ability to tweak tunes and performance, while being able to maximize value for consumers, no need to match brands as far as I'm concerned. I am far more worried about spec sheets that include SX Eagle rather than Deore. These drivetrains are not even in the same category, in every single way from: shifting quality to reliability to cost to clutch adjustability and replacement, Deore is the better drivetrain in every conceivable way. As for external routing, if the option was between fully integrated from the headset back or fully external; fully external all the way. Better access, no hard to trace rattles, no having to bleed brakes just to pull a brake off the bike, no spending time and/or money having cables routed. The singular trade-off is aesthetics.

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your insight! What do you prefer? Internal or external?

@paulmulryne8405

10 ай бұрын

SX is horrible - feels, looks AND shifts are all pretty poor. For me, internal for looks, but external for working on at home.

What do you think about the cube aim pro? Is it great for the 650$ or should I get something else (in the same range of money)

Hey man thanks for another great video. I can't stand mixed anything on my bike... It triggers all sorts of ocd for me 😅 I think that the fluid a2 is probably the best value bike right now. Even more then my trusty polygon t8. Though I wish they just specd a bomber air at the back...

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Yeah same… starting to come around to the idea of mixing components to get the most out of them… I’m playing with a Sram Axs derailleur and Shimano drivetrain right now… working really well!👌🏻

Thanks for the comparison! Where did the footage of the green spectral with the white forks come from?

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Cheers! All footage came from Canyon’s YT channel.

i personally ride a fox float x with kashima in the rear, and a rockshox boxxer worldcup edition from 2015 (i think) and i love it

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Nice… I know it works, it’s just my OCD talking…🤣

I bought the Norco fluid a4. Replaced the recon and bam. Great bike.

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

You liking it!?

I've got a specialized status 140 S4. For Downhill it's the best bike I've ever owned. It's an excellent bike park bike but anything steep uphill through tight trees is hard work. The rear is so short the front is constantly trying to lift

@TopToBottomMTB

10 ай бұрын

Thx for sharing!🤜🏼🤛🏼

I really don't get the Internal routing hate down here, but maybe it's just because the three bikes I've had internal routing on have all been super easy to work on? Also, how often are you actually routing cables vs getting them snagged on things?

What do you think about a BMC speedfox ONE nx 2022? Is the first bike I’m going to buy and I don’t see to much reviews

Love this list. Personally I’d like to see more bikes in this Aggressive short travel Trail Bike category with a few qualifiers. Only HTA 65 or slacker,No stupidly steep STA over 78, minimum rear travel 120 plus. Maximum front travel 150. The price can be any price and if they have a frame only or frame and fork option perhaps you could share someone’s personal build. Just a few thoughts

External cable routing just makes sense. External might look pretty but I'm in the freaking woods.

Still riding and loving my 2020 Jeffsy.

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Love hearing that! Great bikes! What build did you get?

I'd take the external routing on the Vitus all day long, especially now it's over the bb shell instead of awful loops under it. A lot of internal routing lets water in that doesn't always drain out properly.

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Good point!🤔

I bought a Marin Rif zone 1 is a nice bike for a good price

Perfect timing, I am looking for a bike like this

@lukengandia1160

Жыл бұрын

yeah same

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

What are you guys leaning towards?

@dojofilter

Жыл бұрын

Same here, appreciate the rundown! Liking the playfulness of the Kona and the Polygon looks like a fun ride. Any thoughts on the Devenci Django in this price range? Was liking it's reviews, but had noticed its external cabling 😆. Spending this much on something, I kindof want it to have that clean look, but I guess it's worth the cost savings trade off *if* they're actually delivering nicer components for the money 🤷

@Jeremiasz_

Жыл бұрын

Marin and Vitus look great for me

@AdventureRich

Жыл бұрын

Vitus 💪🏽💪🏽

I used to have a Rockshox Debonair piggyback shock and an SR Suntour Durolux fork before I went back to a hardtail. With a proper lower leg service, the bike just monster trucks through roots and rock gardens without costing an entire Japanese shitbox.

How about the Carbonda FM1001? I have their enduro oriented FM1002 and it is a pretty good bike. Not for all since, you gotta build it yourself though.

Best geometry for bad back, Can’t hunch or stretch to much. Thanks

Should I go for Norco Fluid FS 4? I found one for 2000 € (around 2150 usd). Sometimes I ride long trips, 70-100km, a lot of asphalt too, is it decent for this type of riding too? I am not concerned about the rubber, can change that easily, I am concerned about other things and parts. What do you guys think pls? Will I need a lot of effort and energy on asphalt, or is it barely noticeable? Thanks for every answer, tip, basically any help. :D

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like a perfect fit for you! And a pretty good deal!👌🏻

I have the Spectral, it shreds!

@gordonbloe6959

10 ай бұрын

125 or the regular one?

The Canyon is the ONE! Shimano SLX, DT SWISS, FOX. C'mon, hands down the best bike, in my humble opinion. Aloha.😎🤙

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Mahalo my dude!!

sadly the there were no status for my size so i just went with a stumpjumper evo elite alloy. really didn't want to spend that much but couldn't pass the sales they had. its pretty hard picking a trail bike when there are so many good ones out there.

#TopToBottomMTB I' watching everything I can on Trail bikes from the last 2 years at the moment trying to choose a new one and your reviews are top. I do have one question; Why is having the same make suspension front and back so important? Will it unbalance the ride or is it just a mind thing? (I have head issues with non matching tyre brands lol). Antony, UK.

@TopToBottomMTB

10 ай бұрын

Thanks for the kind words! Hope the videos help with your choice! 🤜🏼🤛🏼 The main thing for me is maintenance… servicing the shock and fork will usually take the same oil and lubes. Also they will have the same feel and rebound speed. But that will be hard to tell.

I personally like external cable routing. You'll understand when you get old. Make it count! Aloha. 😎🤙

what do you think about the Tektro brakes? from what I've read so far, they fade quickly, which can be frustrating/dangerous while longer descending

My friend keeps telling me to get mullet. Is every bike with a flip chip mullet compatible? Or is that something different?

My choices are commencal TR vs canyon neuron 6, vs soecialized status? Which one would you guys buy?

@tomislavpurgaric738

7 ай бұрын

commencal will be 4 me but with better set up,price is droping i cant wait to get my hands on it

good video.

@TopToBottomMTB

11 ай бұрын

Thanks!

I have a lyrik Ult fork and dvo jade rear, best combo ever. I prefer my shimano xt drive train but i use some chinese 155mm crank set because Im cheap and my favorite brake Hayes Dominion A4. I also hate the internal cable routing and its too hype imo.

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Yeah coming around to the idea of mixing suspension… and components… just really like when everything matches.

The regular Spectral AL5 is where its at bro. 125mm just isnt Trailbike territory. And its quite a bit cheaper.

Just bought a Jeffsy for 1999 on sale, perks on being a giant, xxl size 17:06

Process has external cable routing for easy maintenance.

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!🤜🏼🤛🏼

I’m looking at the new 2023 Cannondale habit carbon 2, am I missing the goal when considering this bike?

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Looks like a great all-round bike. Just paying a lot for carbon… If saving a pound or two is worth that much to you… If not, I’d look at the Marin or polygon.

I’m thinking of buying a Giant Trance 2 for 2k new. What do you think, or should I spend a bit more for an Ibis Ripmo AF NGX for 2700 on Jenson

@plottipaa_hauki95

Ай бұрын

I got 2021 trance 3 has been really good

I just bought a 2023 Rocky Mountain Instinct A30 for $3800 Canadian.

What are your thoughts on the giant talon? Good bike for mostly road riding with light trails?

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Oh yeah! Had a Giant before my meta and loved it! The talon is perfect for that!

Polygon is top notch for its price and durability! Riding N9’s and believe they are highly capable…

How does the Intense 951 Trail compare to these? I just saw it today at Costco for $2999.99

I just bought the rift 2

Why dont I ever see Radon Slide trail. Imo nothing can touch this in terms bang for buck!

Curious? You’re referring to the Fluid Fs4, but you are showing the Fs1 Green, Fs2 Slilver/red, Etc…. It is the Fs1 that won the awards, I believe

My T8... always a happy ride.. 🤙👌 Very good bikes in this list.. Shout out to Commencal Meta 👌🤙

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Yeah T8 bro!🤜🏼🤛🏼

in the geometry specifications why don't they tell you what the ground clearance is from the ground to the center of the bottom bracket

What is Bikes Direct all about ? Good prices and specs but can't find any "newer" reviews of the bikes they offer.

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Never heard of it… looks sketchy.😬

I was going to buy the fs a4 and had ordered it but jenson usa messed up the order and refunded my money so I went with the canyon spectral Al 6 and couldn’t be happier and I agree with the mismatch suspension lol

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Ooh!!! Good call! I think you’d of been happy with either one of those but I’m glad to hear that!🤘🏻

@topchoice1621

Жыл бұрын

@@TopToBottomMTB thanks I was also looking at the YT as well and really wanted it over the canyon but the wait time was crazy over a month at the time I was looking at it that’s when I said get the canyon and I couldn’t be happier because it’s so good and is so good and durable but now I want an affordable emtb lol 😂

Waiting for my Canyon to come on the next week!

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Stoked for you! What model did you get?

@DronSnow

Жыл бұрын

@@TopToBottomMTB I’m beginner and was advised to take spectral al5(full size suspension), so I’ll make some upgrades closer to al6. Can’t wait

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

@@DronSnow sick! You’re gonna have blast!🤘🏻

@DronSnow

Жыл бұрын

@@TopToBottomMTB hell yeah! Thank you, sir!

@BikeParkLane

Жыл бұрын

Think you may have found the right bike, I've been riding for years and looking at that very bike as a great do it all

ah yes, canyon always at the top

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Great bikes! You have one?

@G_F1

Жыл бұрын

Are you agreeing or complaining..?

@Pies.

Жыл бұрын

@@TopToBottomMTB I *want* one, i'm stuck with a merida for now

@mtbvideos6931

Жыл бұрын

Yt>

@spacegodmurder

Жыл бұрын

I mean, I am a Specialized feller but Canyon is THE brand that does it all, as it should (closely)

You should definitely include cube bikes they are really good and have extremely good value. Especially the alloy enduro bikes are really good. Edit: or radon but they are like canyon.

@TopToBottomMTB

8 ай бұрын

Hard to get here in North America

I have a Marlin 5, but even these "budget" bikes are out of my grasp, at least for quite a while. Maybe someday....

If you are going to the vitus go onto wiggle lots of discounts

Vitus for the win! I am LOVING my 2023 VRX!

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

I’d love to ride one… How is it?

@AdventureRich

Жыл бұрын

@@TopToBottomMTB if I had to do it again, I'd go for the AMP. I only didn't because it wasn't in stock and I was impatient. That being said, the bike is awesome and I'm happy to build it out as I hit limitations along the way. Love it to death!

I was set on the Siskiu T8, until I found all the issues with cracked frames.

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

I’ve ridden mine super hard for 6months now and it’s still mint!

@playgroundchooser

Жыл бұрын

I'm a 250 pound guy kitted out on a size small T8 going hard... You'll be fine. ;-)

Don't mess with The Coach

running mezzer pro fork and super deluxe rear shock because mara pro reservoir doesn't fit the frame. no problems.

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Yeah I know it works but my OCD says 🤢🤮

we would like a video with FREY CC FAT... very beauty ebike... chinese ebike... compliment for your channel... 👍

@TopToBottomMTB

8 ай бұрын

Thanks! I’ll look into it

Meta powa !

Re the Vitus - did he just say external cable routing on a 'high end' bike? Vitus were amazing value 2/3yrs ago, still great bikes but got the rep since and the prices have gone up in line.

GIANT IS BY FAR THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK, BY FAR. GREAT BIKES.

@TopToBottomMTB

6 ай бұрын

Had a trance a few years ago… I thought it was great too.

Tempted with the status for the money

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Yeah… hard to beat!

Next video polygon xquarone dh9

Ive given up hope of ever being able to upgrade from my walmart hard tail 😂 the price of a mountain bike is just insane

@TopToBottomMTB

8 ай бұрын

Yeah… the used market is getting pretty good though.

No Fezzari Abajo peak?

Polygon really knows whats up with their bikes. i have an Xtrada 7 22 and a T7 21 XL and they absolutely rip

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

Sick! 🫶🏻

@robthesasquatch6482

Жыл бұрын

@@TopToBottomMTB ty! I just uploaded some fpv of riding the t7

So 3k is the Lower end of the price spectrum 😮 and here I thought under 1k was more realistic

just picked up jeffsy core 2, its actually $2499 now

@TopToBottomMTB

Жыл бұрын

I know! Just saw that! Super good deal for a wicked bike!🤘🏻

I miss external cable routing...

Why do people keep complaining about value being expensive budget is cheap and value is the best bang for your buck!!!!

2023 Polygon Siskiu T8 v. 2023 Polygon Collosus N9 - Enduro, which would you choose and why??

@TopToBottomMTB

10 ай бұрын

Where do you live? And what trails do you mostly ride? Blues? Double Blacks?…

@pedrorosa9570

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@TopToBottomMTBSan Diego, CA. Blues

@TopToBottomMTB

10 ай бұрын

T8 for sure! Way better pedaler and way more playful for blue trails. N9 is too much bike for blues. If you’re gonna order consider using the link in my video description, helps the channel out! 🤘🏻

@pedrorosa9570

10 ай бұрын

@@TopToBottomMTBWill absolutely do. Thx for the input. I see the bigger travel and get excited but, probably don’t require it. I do like the Shimano XT components and better brakes thought

@TopToBottomMTB

10 ай бұрын

True but trust me… I have both in the garage and I only ride the Collosus in Whistler or super steep and chunky double black trails. 90% of the time it’s the trail bike that comes out with me.

External cable routing all the way. Stop baiting people to write comments, you Joey :D

Ah, i see. Another Polygon enjoyer ;) Hows that Colossus doin?

so which one guys do you prefer? do you guys have some other suggestions?

You realize your video says best bikes for 2024 and this video was posted 9 months ago

sans undertale type beat just bought a used 2004 Fuji bike at a local bike shop and wanted to see what I'm missing out on

Canyon neuron. Lighter and easier to pedal and climb