There was a small spelling mistake at 10:00 and 18:43 - the cooler we we're comparing to was a Noctua NH-U12S, not an NH-D15. :)

@steamer8349

2 жыл бұрын

Hey, wanna se my graphic card?

@Qualkkuno

2 жыл бұрын

ok

@rcon3209

2 жыл бұрын

thank you lingus

@JChalant

2 жыл бұрын

Ever since Luke's clarification on key caps, you could count on LMG for a front and center correction. ;) here's some Engage [ captain Picard emoji ]

@plplplplplpl7336

2 жыл бұрын

@@steamer8349 can I see it

"I don't need it, I'll use VGA." Geoff is such a good sport.

@lodestarsd4456

2 жыл бұрын

He understands the spirit of 2005.

@Globalnet626

2 жыл бұрын

Candidate for a new Channel Super Fun victim

@mightymikex

2 жыл бұрын

Cool kid, and he's cooler than the two guys there and PC lol

@casedistorted

2 жыл бұрын

It cuz he the new guy so he must agree to everything 😂 I’m just assuming

@viliammlynek6366

2 жыл бұрын

My monitor only have VGA....

Ah, hey! This is ours! My wife and I were so glad you guys were up for it. Im in a class at the moment but cant wait to watch it when I get out!

@isaiborrias882

2 жыл бұрын

So nice of you to send it to Linus!

@hannahpaine5787

2 жыл бұрын

OMG SAKURAI ARMORY

@wordansroom

2 жыл бұрын

really awesome of you two ! this made for a great video :p

@michaelc3650

2 жыл бұрын

damn thats cool!

@shady4295

2 жыл бұрын

Gg

"I don't need it, I'll use VGA" Spoken like a true computer tech.

I wonder what the temps would be with actual thermal paste? Linus could've used some Arctic Silver 5 (which is still made and sold brand new) and it would've been authentic to 2005, as it was around back then, and it was top of the line, so it even matches with the water cooler.

@lucasrem1870

2 жыл бұрын

system is old, why care about that? just replace all

@jjpaq

Жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem1870 Because testing with degraded thermal paste doesn't actually reflect the performance it would have had brand-new. So using new paste would have been a better test.

@TheTuttle99

Жыл бұрын

@@lucasrem1870 why use many word when few word do trick

@TheTallOne890

Жыл бұрын

@@TheTuttle99 few word good?

@fungo6631

3 ай бұрын

As the drama showed, that would mean more time required and a slower turnaround.

Others at the office: receives Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade Geoff: LTT Extreme Tech Downgrade

@andrewstewart1464

2 жыл бұрын

[ R E D U C E F R A M E R A T E ]

@junior1896

2 жыл бұрын

I love the fact that you already know which sponsor pays better

@tahayt6142

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@normalstuff9761

2 жыл бұрын

@@junior1896 lol

Yes, blue LEDs were something worth advertising on the box. Decades ago each LED colour required a different manufacturing process and blue LEDs in particular were incredibly expensive to produce. Only high-end electronics had them and that's why some products today, especially those that are marketed to the boomer crowd, still have blue standby LEDs. Anyway, when some Japanese guys discovered a way to make cheap blue LEDs they won the Nobel prize in physics for it. That's how big of a deal they are.

@michelleb2722

2 жыл бұрын

Thats actually so interesting, thank you for sharing that!

@elliotdeclet594

2 жыл бұрын

I was hoping someone mentioned this

@thebravegallade731

2 жыл бұрын

It WAS nobel prise worthy, as blue LEDs becoming cheap means you could make screens and LED lights

@noiJadisCailleach

2 жыл бұрын

They were a big deal. But even back then they were an eyesore and outfitted on hideous looking rigs.

@TenCoJeCool

2 жыл бұрын

The Nichia company (they got the Nobel prize) is still pretty important in the LED space.

Actually I am really interested how would this loop perform with: 1. Modern thermal paste. Measure at this stage 2. Lapped block. Measure again (with modern thermal paste).

@JohnDoe-el5ir

Жыл бұрын

Don’t overestimate thermal paste. Pastes were used in other devices where cooling was needed long before first computer was built.

@bartomiej9807

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-el5ir Nope. CPUs are first items with such a large heat to dissipation area ratio. There was no need for dedicated pastes like we use now before. And there is a serious improvement in those in 20 years. You have now liquid metals, diamond pastes. What you had then was silicon based paste, which was considered premium if it had some silver in it. Another thing. I assume that chemical capabilities of those paste can be much lower than normal after 20 years from being manufactured.

@hashbrown777

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-el5ir that is such a nonsense comment. They're not overestimating thermal paste generally (and even then I'd say *you're underestimating it*; JayzTwoCents vid on delidding shows that a change in thermal paste from a current good one to some magic sauce did like 5degrees!) but more saying that this stuff that's been sitting around for a decade might not be as good as it once was (and even then, the paste that came with this thing mightn't even have been good back then, just because "other devices [needed] cooling" doesn't mean they all used the same goop!)

@JohnDoe-el5ir

Жыл бұрын

@@bartomiej9807 long before CPUs there were power amplifiers and still are, that dissipate much more energy. These are the facts. You can believe it or not, it's not my problem, but facts are the facts. Some minor tweaks here and there ,but still it's almost the same. Diamond paste LOL

@JohnDoe-el5ir

Жыл бұрын

@@hashbrown777 yep, your answer is the most BS . Go buy that fancy pastes LOL. Your are the ideal client for it.

The ending was a good surprise lol. I love how you can tell that at some parts Geoff is trying hard not to laugh.

The ending where they gave the computer back with the water cooler was gold.

@WizardClipAudio

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. I was laughing up a storm at that.

@ProfWereW

2 жыл бұрын

That's the highlight

@ThePortuguesePlayer

2 жыл бұрын

I was watching that and imagining that's what Windows users say everytime they get an update that screws up half their system. The reaction fits so well on that context...

Jake: "Nano scale coolant...what does that even mean" That it will look big in Linus' hand

@SatyajeetKV

2 жыл бұрын

Replied before its famous.

@Mjgot2010

2 жыл бұрын

Same

@gameboyv1790

2 жыл бұрын

Hi

@gameboyv1790

2 жыл бұрын

A

@sherlockmaverick

2 жыл бұрын

LMAO

They probably tell you to unhook the hard drive to prevent the system from booting while you boot cycle to purge the loop. You could just disable it in the bios, but instructions to do that for all motherboards at the time wouldn't fit in that small space. Much simpler to just tell people to unhook the power from the drive.

I had a family friend that showed off the first liquid cooling setup I had ever seen in 2005. Homebuilt with a junked motorcycle radiator, flexi tubing and a pump rotor affixed to a hobby rc motor in the "resivoir" the only thing he bought was a CPU block. Still jealous of it to this day! I never could play ut2004 and hl2 as fast as him.. great thing he let me use it whenever I came over!

Linus really seems to enjoy building things with his oldest son, Jake.

@39zack

2 жыл бұрын

It totally felt that way 🤣

@littlejackalo5326

2 жыл бұрын

He's an annoying pain in the ass, just like a kid too.

@paulsmith8405

2 жыл бұрын

massively agree

@onatgz

2 жыл бұрын

jake even asks "did you really had no temp protection?" as if a child going "wow dad, you really didn't have internet back when you were a kid?"

@muhammaduwaismuhsinmuaz4385

2 жыл бұрын

haha yes

2:37 holy crap I’ve just found out why my first PC case from 2014 had grommets on the back above the PCI slots

@metalface8515

2 жыл бұрын

LOL when I made this realization it blew my mind

@MasterGeekMX

2 жыл бұрын

Me too. AeroCool GT in black. Cheap ass "gamer" case, but is till holds a candle.

@Azeria

2 жыл бұрын

@@MasterGeekMX mine was an Aerocool too, the DS Cube! I think they still sell it, despite it having absolutely zero modern features 🤣

@LanceThumping

2 жыл бұрын

Mine too! Makes me wish they made like a 360x360 radiator so I could have my PC on one side of my desk and my new space heater on the other side.

@zachjoseph7121

2 жыл бұрын

I had that giant cooler master HAF case a while back and it had the two holes like that with grommets too.

I'm so glad I missed this whole era of water cooling. I remember when it first was only extreme hobbyists doing it... my friend in the late 90's was big into this and had an entire fish tank filled with mineral oil lol.

@everythingpony

7 ай бұрын

You do know that water cooling is still a thing and that people still have fish tanks full of mineral oil right?

@livefreeprintguns

7 ай бұрын

@@everythingpony Yeah I'm sure there are a lot of things from 20 years ago that are still happening today.

@Jrock420blam

5 ай бұрын

@@everythingpony people still use computers?!

I had that kit back in the day. I never used the water block that came with it or the coolant, I used automotive dexcool anti-freeze. It honestly worked very well on my AMD Athlon 64. I was able to overclock the hell out of it.

@misfire33

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that the stuff that used to eat manifold gaskets?

You guys gotta upgrade this using new thermal paste, lapping the cooler, using new fluid, and a new fan! Go step-by-step, we wanna see how good this can really get =)

@otak3133

2 жыл бұрын

Especially curious about lapping the cooler. That thing looked horrible.

@Forke13

2 жыл бұрын

I mean... What do you expect? It'll become nearly as good as modern stuff

@stevevolk2585

2 жыл бұрын

I'd watch all 4 of those videos

@SkorpyoTFC

2 жыл бұрын

They should just try it with a decent block and see how much of a beast that reservoir is.

@thegamerfromjuipiter7545

2 жыл бұрын

I’m going to bet that the cpu block was the only problem with this things cooling

I had and installed this exact kit when I was 13 y/o, was so darn proud of it lol. Upon initial install, the fan speed controller set on fire immediately, minimal damage other then a room smelling like burnt electronics for a month. After plugging the rad fan in without the controller, it ran at full tilt for the next 8 years. Surprisingly that pos lived forever... This video brought back such good memories :D

@pavy415

2 жыл бұрын

So was the temperatures bad like there’s were ?

@iClone101

2 жыл бұрын

@@pavy415 Probably, but the alternative air coolers at the time would've been even worse.

@RoganGunn

2 жыл бұрын

@@pavy415 What Galactic Ruler said, plus stuff just ran hot back then. "Cooling your PC" meant taking off the side panel and letting it 'breath' a bit! I still managed to cook a Radeon 9800 SE tho 😒

@Guimhj

2 жыл бұрын

So gigabyte is not new to the electronics with embedded fireworks market

@Dr.Bojie-Chan

2 жыл бұрын

@@pavy415 The comment from @Galactic Ruler was pretty much the most spot on. Cooling was pretty terrible all around back then plus I knew a lot less lol. It replaced a half dead stock cooler so it was an upgrade, and the fan being stuck at 100% (for years mind you) temps were never a problem. aka I don't have a real answer LOL

My first pc ever, I had one of these back when it came out. Watching your video really took me back more than a decade. You can even see me unboxing it along with the matching Araura case.

Aah, the nostalgia! The only thing I would have done would have been to also compare it against a good representative air cooler from that era too to in order to see if it was an improvement over what was available at the time. Noctua is a still quite a challenge to beat even for modern WC systems.

Linus: "Wanna feature your PC in a video?" Geoff: *secretly thinks he's getting Intel Extreme Tech Upgrade* "YES" Jake and Linus yeets this back to 2005

“We did a thing…and made it worse.” Top Gear vibes

@nilleftw

2 жыл бұрын

On tonight's show: I (Linus) get coolant in my blood Jake gets his hole stuffed And Geoff gets an upgrade

@LightBusterX

2 жыл бұрын

I've said it before multiple times and I'll say it again. LTT is the Top Gear of technology. Sometimes ambitious but rubbish.

I've been waiting for an instruction video on how to put this on my computer since around 2006, thanks for finally helping me out.

This is like going through Gigabyte's gradeschool year book while they were going through some weird phases and tearing into them.

Geoff deserves a Christmas bonus for being so cool about having his PC turned into a hot lump of coal

@user72974

2 жыл бұрын

He's like that one guy who really needs the job so he's fine with anything.

@sebastiancardenasholik

Жыл бұрын

Took the news like the champ he is

@MEMEMEMEMELOL

Жыл бұрын

You mean history remade, right? Not coal?

@Tenchigumi

Жыл бұрын

I love how they kept trying to prod him into getting upset by listing the downgrades one by one, and he was like "oh cool just what I wanted."

@slickstretch6391

10 ай бұрын

Doesn't he do sales? It's probably still way faster than it needs to be.

I laughed so hard when you gave back the 'upgraded' PC back to Geoff. Haha He was like, oh cool, a PC and a heater build in together.

@_invencible_

2 жыл бұрын

honestly this was the first thing that made me laugh out loud in a long time

@rexsceleratorum1632

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, good cooling that prevents throttling makes the room hotter compared to bad cooling of the same wattage. The cooling system just pumps out the heat and lack of throttling means more heat.

@henkheijmen

2 жыл бұрын

Sadly he is mistaken, the amount of heat that is produced by the cpu does not go up so it will not act as a space heater any more then it did. Worst case the cpu throttles, making it produce less heat. The only thing that is getting hotter is the cpu itself.

@Melvinator311

2 жыл бұрын

Oh man, I died. Just kept piling on the good news lol

@drykitufk

2 жыл бұрын

He smiling under that mask...

Would it be worth lapping the cold plate of this cooler to see if it improves the performance at all?

So glad Linus got the package and let us share in on the nostalgia!

I worked in a PC store during the early 2000s. I still remember there being a pre-built desktop that came with a full custom water cooling kit but using the kit would void your warranty! It was hilarious telling customers.

@richardprice5978

2 жыл бұрын

same kind of things with older dodge cars and or a 90 day warranty period. and didn't chevy do that on newer 2010-car two?

@littlejackalo5326

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardprice5978 do what?

@richardprice5978

2 жыл бұрын

@@littlejackalo5326 a stock 426 hemi in 1963-77 factory installed/all stock had a super shortened warranty ( dodge was expecting people being ruff on it and or racing ) and or non existing. basically the same BS. as the water 🚿 cooling computer 🖥 skeems aka use 🚿 stock and we wont even look at it same thing with un-water-cooling as its "moded from stock"

I built a system to run "Doom 3" at max settings back in the day with a Thermaltake BigWater cooling system where the radiator and tank fit into the CD drive bay. It was friggin' epic.

@prostodeo

2 жыл бұрын

You were a rich kid

@internetguy1260

2 жыл бұрын

@@prostodeo or he was an adult and is just older then us lol.

@prostodeo

2 жыл бұрын

@@internetguy1260 Or maybe that yes 😅

@LuvzToLol21

2 жыл бұрын

This used to be super popular until everyone stopped using cd drives

@grumpywolfgaming

2 жыл бұрын

I had the thermaltake case that had the radiotor built into the front door, it was really akward opening and closing it.

As an automotive tech it's so cool to see how much of the technology designed for vehicles got transfered into old school pc cooling

the chiller looks awesome Linus. love the blue logo and painted black NICE

This just makes me want to see Linus and Clint from LGR collab on a retro computer video

@krackytech2344

2 жыл бұрын

thought the same thing

@benbaselet2026

2 жыл бұрын

One where Linus goes to retro town with one of Clint's daily drivers..?

@toine512fr

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah!!

@stevenjlovelace

2 жыл бұрын

Yes please to LTT/LGR collab!

@megan_alnico

2 жыл бұрын

I can just hear Clint doing one of Linus's cheesy segways.

Oh gosh, I had one of these! It was my first try at watercooling and it worked reasonably well until the pump stopped working one day.

UV reactive back then was all the rage. I had an all clear acrylic case that was UV reactive. Cable routing was a nightmare and I ended up shortening and repinning the PSU harness. Also loomed in UV reactive orange of course. I would have killed for a modular PSU back then. It also doubled as a room light for the LAN parties. I still have the case and have always wanted to do a retro build with it. Maybe one day.

"This Product Aged Like Fine Milk" The Dutch person in me was thinking 'so it became cheese or butter'

@adrammelech6323

2 жыл бұрын

Well it's definitely cheesy.

@gabrielschirmbeck400

2 жыл бұрын

Certified Oude Kaas 48+

@0Sybylle0

2 жыл бұрын

French, can relate.

@BlastinRope

2 жыл бұрын

American here, what does plastic or vegetable fat stick have to do with milk?

@wta1518

2 жыл бұрын

@@BlastinRope they use the plastic from the milk for the cheese.

I love how on board he was with the upgrade. What a good sport!

@LinusTechTips

2 жыл бұрын

"upgrade" heh.

@TheDeathmail

2 жыл бұрын

@@LinusTechTips That's just bullying... you should reward him for being such a good sport.... >.

@TinyMiniStealth

2 жыл бұрын

It’s like his job depended on it 😅 jk jk

@Gadzinisko

2 жыл бұрын

Geoff: "Can I have Intel Extreme Upgrade?" Linus: "We have something better for you."

@0Sybylle0

2 жыл бұрын

@@LinusTechTips Negative upgrade?!

I had this very loop set up in my Lian Li PC-70 back in the day. If I remember correctly it was an Athlon 64 3200+ with a MSI K8N Neo 4 Platinum mobo and a GeForce 7800 GTX. In an era where you could buy this or spend as much as a full PC build on a custom loop, the gigabyte kit wasn't a bad deal to be honest. Definitely needed a full tower case to comfortably set the thing up inside, though.

I love the vids with old tech stuff!

Always wondered what those "water cooling" holes on the back of my case were supposed to be for. Good to know its compatible with completely archaic pieces of kit.

@Ballissle

2 жыл бұрын

same. I have them in my current case by coolermaster. Although one of the grommets just fell out.

@nubreed13

2 жыл бұрын

My old ass cooler master case has them too. Instead I crammed a pile of hand me down fans into my case and it runs fine.

@Ritefita

2 жыл бұрын

Damn. I'm so proud that my "new" case (Zalman 11) has this holes. I thought It means future) GREAT case tho. I had shitty cans before

@Sheovion

2 жыл бұрын

same with my Thermaltake Versa H23

@mccoll20416

2 жыл бұрын

In the video it says the holes are for water cooling

The infinite number of chapters is almost as impressive as Jake‘s dedication to sell all the march Linux is wearing.

@raspyApostle

2 жыл бұрын

nice profile pic :)

Ahhhhh yes. I remember my first "real build" using one of the old Thermaltake bigwater kits. Hacked up my case (hard drive bays then relocated drives) to fit everything in the mid size case. Topped that loop off with some good 'ol feser fluids and went at it. I ended up feeding the radiator air from my window ac unit which actually worked out pretty well.

Yes! I had exactly that plus purple lights for the uv effect

I still wanted that standalone radiator/fan tower thing that you ran outside your case from a few years back. That looked neat.

@jgelliot

2 жыл бұрын

I've still got my koolance exos (external triple rad/pump) unit from like 2006 sitting on a shelf. That thing was a nightmare back in the day.

@azumandus

2 жыл бұрын

Yep

@MarbleTL

2 жыл бұрын

We had one of those at school, still wanna go back and see if they still have it

@davinbaker1045

2 жыл бұрын

I converted a 2ftx5ft 3 shelf floor standing cupboard into a fan/pump/radiator housing 15 yrs ago. Retired 2018. Mostly modified car parts.

@davinbaker1045

2 жыл бұрын

I converted a 2ft x 5ft 3 shelf floor standing cupboard into a fan/pump/radiator housing 15 yrs ago. Retired 2018. Mostly modified car parts.

I had no idea that Gigabyte had been obsessed with marketing things as a “world first” even in 2005. I can’t believe they hadn’t gotten over that by now.

@IyeViking

2 жыл бұрын

Because they’re the “world’s first” to do so, they have to keep doing it

@muizzsiddique

2 жыл бұрын

@@IyeViking Well they are in competition with Apple in being the world's first world's firster.

@shinydracovish1929

2 жыл бұрын

Technically the new gigabyte power supply is the worlds first power supply to explode every time 😂

@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart

2 жыл бұрын

@@muizzsiddique They don't call their water-coolers "cryo-cooler", so their marketing is still not as bad as Apple's

@sophustranquillitastv4468

2 жыл бұрын

I still remember Gigabyte marketing for world's first Dual BIOS (around early K8 era) and all solid capacitors (in 965P-DQ6) in IT magazines that time.

Man am i so glad i got into water cooling at the right time, 2017. That was a cool vid never know about them back then. & forever grateful.

The one thing I liked about this kit is the block had a fan on it. I wish more aio coolers had a fan to move air around in that area of the motherboard.

I like that they actually put a decent amount of thought into the system, with the power pass through, a decent pump. The patent pending valves. If only they had spent a little more time on the water block it might have actually held up! I'm honestly shocked that the components all worked and the coolant was still ok. They only gaurantee it for 3 years! lol But still, pretty cool!

@user-dv7hq2rh4g

2 жыл бұрын

And if they used a new thermal paste + good mounting pressure the cooling performance would have been only slightly worse than the best modern air cooler.

@Rspsand07

2 жыл бұрын

3 years of use, not 3 years sitting on a shelf. Hence warranty starting after purchase even if manufacture is a year ago

@IanZainea1990

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rspsand07 ah, fair enough. But sometimes it is from date of manufacturer, if it starts degrading. An extreme example is hydrogen peroxide, if it sits on the shelf too long, it's just water when you open it.

@Prlz3

2 жыл бұрын

@@Rspsand07 on 4:53 it says "Guaranty period - 3 years (on closed status) "

Missed a huge opportunity for Linus to end with "You've officially been pimped" when giving Geoff his PC back

@UndefinedEssence

2 жыл бұрын

YES, THIS

@caodesignworks2407

2 жыл бұрын

I suppose, it's 2021, not 2005

I LOVE IT !!! the radiator is sick!!! i found the one that came in the case used last year RUNS LIKE A CHARM and cools a xeon 1366 build atm!

The 3d Aurora case was actually a pretty nice Aluminium case.. I used a 3d Aurora 2 Full Tower case for many years across probably 3-4 rebuilds, it was awesome because of the size it could fit anything.

Actually, fine milk can develop in to an extraordinary cheese in the right conditions and judging by the quirkiness of this whole setup this indeed is a Roquefort

Linus: Hey Geoff, everything is worse now. Geoff: Looks fast! Thanks so much!

Your worker took the upgrade like teachers did at a middleschool I had to upgrade from mac iici and iifx models to imacs with no floppy drive and only 1 expansion slot. I still had my mac iici and which i personally owned and everyone wanted the old macs back.

4:00 I love it how Linus roast the water block like crazy and at the end says: "this thing is fricking awesome" 😆

I remember using fish tank pumps, pop bottles for reservoirs, and tubing from hardware stores along with some self machined copper heatsinks. I have sworn off liquid cooling ever since lol. This was circa late 1999-2002.

@Grimmwoldds

2 жыл бұрын

You still can use fish tank pumps. The Aquacomputer Aquastream line uses eheims. An actual top notch pump, sacrificing some pressure/flow/noise for reliability vs D5, with built in monitoring/control (integrated low flow sensor, temp sensor, display, and onboard microcomputer). Very reliable pump.

@nexxusty

2 жыл бұрын

@@Grimmwoldds I've had two D5 pumps working in tandem for over 10 years dude. You don't know what you're talking about.

@fonkbadonk5370

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, THAT were the days of pioneer water cooling. Not that modern AIO stuff. Back when a Dremel was a PC enthusiast's most important tool is where it's at!

@idiberug

2 жыл бұрын

Seems fun for a rat style build today.

5:30 the wanted you to remove the power from your Hdd, because the you PC won't Boot and you CPU would idle in the Postscreen. This was to minimise the heatoutput till the loop was bleeded, since the block wouldn't cool without water. They simply relied on the thermal mass of the Block during that time, which was fine(?) back then...

@amirpourghoureiyan1637

2 жыл бұрын

60w was the norm back then so thermal performance didn't matter as much as it does now. This was Gigabyte's attempt at getting sales from novice PC builders, I doubt this was competitive against the DIY market - the fact that this had bigger fans was a greater selling point for people looking to upgrade from the annoyingly loud stock coolers AMD and Intel chips came with.

@1991apfel

2 жыл бұрын

@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 yes I had a thermaltake system on a heavily overclocked P4 and that was much quieter. Later I swapped the cooler for a cooler of a motorcycle and ran even passive....

@mycosys

2 жыл бұрын

@@amirpourghoureiyan1637 Pentium 4 got out to 115W in 2004/5, higher if you overclocked. 'Preshott' literally melted sockets overclocked. Theres a reason they abandoned the entire architecture.

@chrisalmere20

2 жыл бұрын

even back in the days we werent dumb like that. we knew full well that connecting the green wire to any black on your 24 pin would run the pump without turning the system on (still does)

@amirpourghoureiyan1637

2 жыл бұрын

@@mycosys Yeah, I was referring to stock systems. AMD and Intel's 32 bit chips ran at similar thermals to today's Pentiums/i3's

Love seeing these crazy 2000 pc stuff

seeing you clean the rig with an air compressor just eased so much anxiety for me. We have a very big air compressor at my house that's plumbed into the workshop downstairs and I've been using it to clean my electronics, but I've always been worried the air pressure is too high (though, if I wasn't lazy I could go to the garage and adjust the flow rate....) that said, seeing you do it the same why I do (short blasts with the air gun a few inches back) makes me feel a lot more confident that I won't break anything if I'm mindful of what I'm doing

there's a good chance that the Thermal paste you guys used, actually influenced the benchmark by a lot. maybe with a quality paste it would run at the same temps as the noctua xD

@hondaman62

2 жыл бұрын

Even new water coolers struggle to beat the noctua but I like your optimism

@rawdez_

2 жыл бұрын

@@hondaman62 that one is pumping like crazy though. and Noctua NH-U12S is actually not as good.

@johannsmith5697

2 жыл бұрын

@@hondaman62 so it should be given every advantage

I'd be interested to see how a decent lapping job on that cold plate, some decent thermal paste and throwing a Noctua fan on the rad would improve performance

@johannsmith5697

2 жыл бұрын

they shouldve then gone ahead and tweaked it as 3 result temp comparison

@A.Martin

2 жыл бұрын

also to be fair they should have compared it to a intel stock cooler. You know, its an upgrade for that.

@BiologyIsHot

2 жыл бұрын

@@A.Martin I'm not sure it would be though 😅

@AirNeat

2 жыл бұрын

I wish they used good thermal paste for science. Of course 2005 thermal paste is going to be shit, the solvent was even separated out

@ChristianMadsen87

2 жыл бұрын

Doubt that would do much of a difference with a shitty rad and that badly designed block.

This reminds me of my old Koolance case (which indeed had an exos like thing built in via a top cutout. The OG era of water cooling was wild. Lots of plexiglass with copper pin arrays and limited in actually forcing liquid through as much surface as possible. It was back when stuff like Vapour chambers where unheard off and it was already fancy if there was just one single heatpipe. Modern Air-coolers, AIOs and Custom loops would blow the old bunch straight out of the water.

17:45 I remember that the Athlon XP also had thermal shutdown. Not just Athlon 64. Once years I was playing around with my grandad's old Athlon XP PC and forgot to connect the fan, and it indeed had a thermal shutdown feature.

Linus: " Here is your Work Station back. I've removed half of your RAM, no VGA, just 2 Display ports now. Are we cool, cause the PC's running kind of Hot?" Geoff: " That looks AMAZING!" *Employee of the Year achievement unlocked.*

@lucasrem1870

2 жыл бұрын

you bought the shoes too?

Wow! I was dying of laughter with how agreeable Geoff was ;D

@riothero313

2 жыл бұрын

He's doing the math in his head. "how many sticks of ram to do spreadsheets?"

@benjaminoechsli1941

2 жыл бұрын

"Oh, thanks, Linus!" _I am SO getting the next Intel Upgrade..._

@TAKE_BACK_BRITAIN

2 жыл бұрын

Canadians…

@elam986

2 жыл бұрын

@@TAKE_BACK_BRITAIN Gonna. N NC n fn Finn nn mm f n fn f FB f. F good day vn/

My very first computer was built using the "GIGABYTE 3D Aurora 570 GZ-FA1CA-ASB Black 1.0 mm Aluminum body ATX Full Tower Computer Case" which was the original case that this liquid cooling kit was made for. Thank you LInus for the nostalgic flashback.

the intro was so wholesome man, Linus jiggling like a kid in Christmas

The manifold for adding components to the cooling loop is actually an objectively good idea they should be using now. Definitely more convenient for the end user

@liemnguyenhuu7492

2 жыл бұрын

in case you didn't know, quick disconnects exist.

@TechyBen

2 жыл бұрын

Not sure if it would work with a loop setup and would instead mess up flow.

@ZeroB4NG

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, well, Gigabyte has the patent on it... nobody else can use this.

@Grimmwoldds

2 жыл бұрын

@@TechyBen Correct. You shouldn't use a manifold unless you have a large number of identical devices waterblocked(GPUs mostly). It's not a useful thing otherwise. Even then, most blocks that might be used in multiples will have more than one inlet/outlet pair, so a manifold as a separate part is just useless.

@Jehty21

2 жыл бұрын

But how often do you change your components that that even matters?

I like how it's packaged like a kids toy

@Ch1oe2472

2 жыл бұрын

It honestly looks like Nerf Gun packaging.

@supersimon126

2 жыл бұрын

@Samurai Shampoo Not like this though :D

Had this exact one! Brings back memories!!

4:19 The fasciation with older tech. It's a wonderful experience 😸

"Orange and blue, it's disgusting!" As a parent of a kid who loves Blippi, you don't know how happy that made me.

@20blog28

2 жыл бұрын

Ah, yes, iPad kids..

@Wimmle

2 жыл бұрын

Blippi is ok 🤣 better than pepper pig....Linus would make a great blippi

@TimWochomurka

2 жыл бұрын

BLIPPI > Caillou. Don't @ me

@serraramayfield9230

2 жыл бұрын

@@TimWochomurka based, in hindsight Caillou (the cartoon, not the books) are trash even for kids

@goliathsdownfall

2 жыл бұрын

@@Wimmle definitely would 😂 he's got the high pitched voice to go with it

8:45 LOL my case have those rubber holes to pass the tube and I never knowed for what those were, yes I stil use a 2009 case, a case is a case you don't need to replace it, I just upgrade the internal component and them fit perfectly in a good 13 years old case.

20:15 love the puppy of: "its fine"

It's funny how computer parts from early 2000 looks like toys that I would have played with in the 80s

@greatwavefan397

2 жыл бұрын

That's why they're so cool 😎

You should try it again with new thermal paste

@TheMetroidblade

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I had that thought too. Maybe even give it the benefit of the doubt and mix up some coolant. I’d love to see if there’s a world where this could be halfway decent

@danieljensen2626

2 жыл бұрын

If they used better thermal paste and lapped the block it would probably be fine.

@JukesDE

2 жыл бұрын

They should yeah

@frego24

2 жыл бұрын

It would surely still be worse than the Noctua air cooler. It outperforms many modern AIO's, so I doubt this ancient one with a small radiator would perform better.

@Magpy93

2 жыл бұрын

another video of them trying to make it better would be amazing

Can confirm clamps do work, had this kit and used the clamps on some turbo lines in my car for a temporary fix

Hah! This would have blown my mind back in 2005 when I was fresh out of high school and going to ITT Tech. Also, I really hope there's going to be a follow up video with fresh thermal paste. I bet that'll make a few degrees difference.

Really needed to give this unit it's best chance to shine. Modern thermal paste and modern coolant. COME ON LINUS! Make this happen. I really enjoyed this video.

@R3BootYourMind

2 жыл бұрын

You wouldn't want to run modern coolant in that thing since modern coolant doesn't have the same anti corrosion agents in it. I think that swapping the cold plate to a proper one would give the best improvement.

@1337GameDev

2 жыл бұрын

You actually NEED their coolant to prevent the corrosion between the aluminum and copper....

@Gadzinisko

2 жыл бұрын

Better way would be to test its performance on era appropriate CPU against era appropriate air cooler.

@akamemurasame4527

2 жыл бұрын

@@R3BootYourMind Because there is no modern coolant with anti corrosive agents.

@g.4279

2 жыл бұрын

The block design is awful, modern coolants and paste wont do anything.

I like this idea, instead of upgrading your employees workstations you take things away to test their adaptability in hostile work environments

@mikakorhonen5715

2 жыл бұрын

Like in my last job where they gave me broken PC to work with. It could shutdown any time randomly. I was showing animation for CEO, PC shutdown and CEO just walked away.

@criznittle968

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikakorhonen5715 see, that's where LTT could have excelled - Linus would use that fail for video content.

We did watercooling setups exactly like this back in the early 2000s playing OG Counterstrike and TFC competitively, trying to overclock everything to stick 99 fps. I believe we ended up buying aftermarket custom cpu/gpu blocks and trying a bunch of different thermal pastes until we found one it liked. The factory blocks were the horrible weak point and just did not fit or channel and flow well enough to be even close to effective. But after that, we were running substantially cooler. We even used those ice pack velcro sleeves you wrapped around the tubes to drop coolant temps. Trying to move these giant heavy delicate setups to goto LAN tournaments.. that is another story..

Does anyone know what the PC is with the giant fan in the background?

Can just see it now... Linus' next doctor's appointment when they do a blood test and get blue coolant.

@NEEDbacon

2 жыл бұрын

News breaks that Linus has died. People ask if it was Covid. And the actuality is he got poisoned by 05 era PC coolant.

Always wanted to do this only never could find a kit here 😅, so much joy watching this video 🤗

@cleanlens

2 жыл бұрын

sure

My first dip into liquid cooling was with Koolance back in the early 2000's. If I recall, it was a pain in the ass, but it did work well.

That looks easy compared to my first liquid cooled PC endeavor back in 1998. Had to make my water block out of a chunk of copper that I milled at my High School using a bridgeport mill. Not even CNC. I was a senior (2001) when they finally got a CNC mill for the CAD class.

Love these old school tech testing

Let’s start a petition to have Geoff get a nicer computer than most of Linus’s other employees.

@slickstretch6391

10 ай бұрын

Why? He's in sales. He doesn't need the fastest work computer, and he just got the 5k Intel Tech upgrade.

@ddrnold

9 ай бұрын

@@slickstretch6391 excel is a power hungry app.

I shed a tear when you mentioned cathode tubes. I used to rock red tubes in my Athlon XP rig back then.

That 70c is actually super impressive considering modern paste would probably get it to perform as goods as the noctua

My favorite part of the video is just how accommodating Geoff is when they return the PC. top tier Canadian.

I don't care what anyone tries to argue, exterior mount radiators as part of a liquid coolant system can look awesome.

I still remember wanting that liquid cooler to gith my 890 chipset mobo I had from gigabyte would of looked so pretty with the color scheme

It would be awesome to see this with a proper copper block, you should mill one up and try it again!

17:43 Pentium 4s did have thermal protection. I think Athlon XPs might have had it (I do remember mine having temp sensors) but anything older than that, especially AMD, was prone to failure and sometimes catching fire. Edit: But P4s ran so hot that we eventually had to put a fan with blue LEDs that sat in a PCI case slot in my younger sibling's PC. 2004/5 was weird.

@LinusTechTips

2 жыл бұрын

You're right P4s did have thermal protection. My bad - LS

@TheBaldrickk

2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure the Athalon XPs did too. It was as bare bones as this solution is - hot temps = instantly kill the power, no graceful degraded performance "until" it's cooler. But that's really as early as my experience in actually playing with hardware goes.

@MegaMoonse

2 жыл бұрын

There was at the time breathtaking video. They remove heatsink on 3 working pc’s. Amd athlon, intel celeron and p4. Pentium 4 throttled down, celeron froze and athlon caught fire.

@TheBaldrickk

2 жыл бұрын

@@MegaMoonse oh man... I want to watch that.

@proCaylak

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheBaldrickk check the video named "What happens when a CPU heatsink is removed".

Ah yes, delicious glorious LTT content.

@lioscar80

2 жыл бұрын

Splendid

@kaneki1056

2 жыл бұрын

good soup

The GIGABYTE 3D Aurora 570 GZ-FA1CA-ASB case that went with this was what I used for my q6600 build back in the day :)

Wow, is that Geoff's calendar at 20:16? That looks like TV programs schedule!

@tl1882

Жыл бұрын

google calendar on a vertical monitor

13:52 As was noted a few seconds earlier, power supplies used to be at the top of the case. These wouldn't have interfered with video cards which were at the bottom of the case.

@fyretnt

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I have a fairly old pc and my gpu slot is at the bottom and psu at the top

@cdigames

2 жыл бұрын

I had a similar case but with a top-mounted PSU, but my GPU was still an AGP card, so it would have been hella blocked by this

@professionalduckquack

2 жыл бұрын

I still have mine at the top of the case lol