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@theotherchannel2279

Жыл бұрын

14:00 Please do. I bet you could make a better system, we need to see this!

@treasurechestgaming8423

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@jyto87yo987

Жыл бұрын

j

@craiglortie8483

Жыл бұрын

@@theotherchannel2279 and give us a listing of the parts! make it from hardware store parts!

@matthewcherrington2634

Жыл бұрын

Papa meat

Thank God, I was worried I would need a full sized PC instead of a slightly smaller one, but now I can just use this PC-sized cooler to cool my small PC and save tons of space!

@djchotus1

Жыл бұрын

Lol

@chronossage

Жыл бұрын

With long enough tubes you just keep that thing in the basement or something.

@pali3329

Жыл бұрын

@@chronossage With long enough tubes i just put the ends in a lake and use it as a huge reservoir.

@MercyOfDarkness

Жыл бұрын

@@chronossage Not with that pump in there lol.

@Fay7666

Жыл бұрын

Eh, I think this would look cool besides my Shift X. If I end up rebuilding it, I'd likely need a setup like this in order to keep it cool.

The "fixing the product" portion of the video was magical. I would love to see more of that in the future!

@MrSqueakyBubbles

Жыл бұрын

Iu😊nk😊b😊ihuh

@BlissBatch

Жыл бұрын

"Once you fill it, it will work. You can just never put it back together again." 🤣

@dstutz

Жыл бұрын

It was entertaining but as someone with no water cooling experience I couldn't really tell what it was they were actually doing to fix it

@wolfremus2521

Жыл бұрын

@@dstutz The water return port in the reservoir is too close to the pump, so all air bubble got suck back into circulation. They simply switch the water return port to a higher slot, and so the air bubble would stay on top instead.

@SurgStriker

Жыл бұрын

new channel. "Linus Product Fixes", where they find fixes for major issues with tech products. Maybe they could get a revenue stream from selling the fixes to the original product designers

That 10 day warranty makes me think of when I ordered a car part off a website and they had a 12 day warranty... from PURCHASE DATE... and it took 15 DAYS FOR THE PART TO BE DELIEVERED.

@99xara99

Жыл бұрын

Lol that just can't be legally correct, can it?

@kooliodood89

Жыл бұрын

@@99xara99 Idk, but that was like 10 years ago so I'm not too worried about it now

@ThiefMaster

Жыл бұрын

@@99xara99 In countries with mandatory warranty (like Germany and probably most/all of the EU): No chance. But if the warranty is compltely optional and up to the seller I guess they can do whatever stupid shit they want...

@TechSY730

Жыл бұрын

​​​​​​​@@99xara99 I don't know about Canada. Important EDIT: in the US, this may vary for each state. But at the federal level, this is nothing stopping it But in the US, if it is part of the contract of the warranty, a "starts on purchase date" clause for a warranty is entirely legal. Or rather, there is no law or precedent preventing such a clause from being in a warranty contract, or to render it unenforceable. And you are going to be hard pressed to find companies that offer warranty terms that start with the arrival date. (Another reason why one should consider buying from a brick and mortar store)

@weberman173

Жыл бұрын

@@TechSY730 thats just absolutly insane to me as ThiefMaster has stated in my country(Germany) such a clause would be illegal to no end. even ignoring the EXTREMLY short time for it(10 days isnt even covering the 14 days "no questions asked" return policy that is mandatory for "Fernmeldegesschäfte" (aka purchases done via the phone or internet etc) and that is just the icebeerg

I just love how Linus comes back from ''there is no such thing as a bad product'' while somebody is throwing tiny plastic baby's in the fan. The IQ level is superb

@VladKov36

9 ай бұрын

gooollllldfish

These product reviews keep getting weirder and I’m here for it.

@alexdavis9324

Жыл бұрын

I really thought is was going to be a useful product.

@Wiisporter

Жыл бұрын

This review gets stranger and stranger...

@Stabbingparrot

Жыл бұрын

Yes. It makes it even more funny

@pirojfmifhghek566

Жыл бұрын

The impromptu baby shower adds a nice touch.

@smartguy9765

Жыл бұрын

"and I’m here for it." What does this mean?

Fixing the design was hilarious to watch. I would absolutely watch a series where you take expensive, poorly designed products and fix them so they work better.

@jondonnelly4831

Жыл бұрын

they didn't really fix it though/

@monkey3582

Жыл бұрын

@@ffggggggg452doesnt cool as good and quiet and some people like the apperances of water cooling

@jeanmahmoudventilateur3480

Жыл бұрын

@@monkey3582 "as good and quiet" let me introduce you to noctua then

@monkey3582

Жыл бұрын

@@jeanmahmoudventilateur3480 what about using noctua radiators?? I mean liquid is just better at conducting heat

@jeanmahmoudventilateur3480

Жыл бұрын

@@monkey3582 You are aware it's the exact same principle on both cases, right ? You are aware there is water in the pipes of air coolers, right ? You are aware that watercooling are just air coolers with a different setup, right ? The only benefit of watercooling is having bigger radiators (more than 360mm) and more clearance on the mobo, otherwise the risks of leaks and defect products are not worth it. If you want performances, low prices and low noise levels, go to noctua. Pumps and watercooling fans are louder, and overall more expensive.

What you do is add a neck to the fill port, with a funnel. The same way a radiator fill on a older vehicles work. As air escapes, the air bubbles out taking some water with it, but due to the shape of a funnel at the top, the water wouldn't splash out and be recovered as it drains back into the fill hole.

@TheWinjin

9 ай бұрын

Would be kinda hilarious if there's instructions for it somewhere on like their website (or probably in their Tiktok or something stupid like one of these chinese superapps)

@tobiasjames6949

9 ай бұрын

The cold supply line too should be on the bottom of the radiator enclosure, having both at the same level is peak dumb, all i can say is liquid cooling a PC appears to have people not understanding what has already been worked out in home heating water runs and cars for 100+ years

@TierNoneOperator

Ай бұрын

As an auto mechanic I could have had that filled in about 5 minutes. I bet it even included a funnel and fittings to do it.

Linus says it's from Japan, but every piece of information I can find about the company, including their own website, suggests they're Chinese.

Honestly, I'd love to see them do a video where they do attempt make a better version of it in a day. I know they've done similar thing in the past, but it'd be fun to see what they can do.

@dreamshooter90

Жыл бұрын

I seccond that.

@philth7587

Жыл бұрын

There's no need to make much of an attempt. Just buy a mo-ra3 with add ons and it's done in an hour

@HatchetHatter

Жыл бұрын

@@philth7587 Uhh.... The point would be a fun video for the audience? I wasn't saying there weren't other options. I was just suggesting they try because they said they could do it. Just because I'm not going to build my own external radiator doesn't mean I don't want to see them try.

@philip1382

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if they have enough people to field two teams and make it a competition.

@0DanceMusic0

Жыл бұрын

Yeees!!

Now we absolutely NEED a diy external cooler made by Linus and Alex.

@hobbypyromane2.05

Жыл бұрын

They should just use a car radiator. Would absolutely love to see it

@hulime

Жыл бұрын

@@hobbypyromane2.05pretty sure they’ve done so for one of their sub 0 projects, might be wrong

@MrBlahblhblah

Жыл бұрын

I mean they practically signed themselves up

@sayantansaharoy6349

Жыл бұрын

@@hulime those were pretty barebones and diy. The real thing would be to see an actually viable and basically purchasable thing like this one

@wtftolate3782

Жыл бұрын

Here is one that is cheaper than what Linus showed and actually works. Look up MO-RA3.

It's crazy how fast they fixed the products design flaw just on the fly. Hopefully the manufacturer just, you know, does that. lol

@metaleater9

10 ай бұрын

More like bad documentation, They could have used the rear ports to bleed air from the loop before connecting it to the PC.

@kingdom9214

7 ай бұрын

It was built wrong from the factory, I have the 360mm version of this and my fill/exhaust ports were installed correctly. I think whoever built this one mixed up where the fill & exhaust ports go.

@lukeperryglover

7 ай бұрын

@@kingdom9214 fair enough. lol

Linus, if you decide to make one of these google "swirl pot". It's a dead simple air separating device. Also generally when bleeding a system you feed fluid in while allowing the fluid to flow out into a catch at the other end of the loop until it is free of bubbles.

you guys should attempt to make your own version in a day and see how much better it is than the "official" product

@TheEchelon

Жыл бұрын

This!

@MegaDRKSTR

Жыл бұрын

They kinda just did

@Welshmanshots

Жыл бұрын

they technically did back when they water cooled the old office back in 2013.

@vanfrancisco4573

Жыл бұрын

make the LTT Water Cooler.

@terminatorfishstudios

Жыл бұрын

They did a while ago with fans strapped to a car radiator

I'm now convinced that, with 100% reliability, Linus + Alex + Messing around with literally anything = Banger video

@tom6nicole

Жыл бұрын

ong

@fastydave

Жыл бұрын

@@tom6nicole stop using that acronym you numpty

@toddmaples3152

Жыл бұрын

I'd love to hang out with these two just once... Throw Kris in the mix and you gotta party 🎉😂

@NotUwU-_-

Жыл бұрын

They think hard for the script

I feel a lot better about myself after seeing these two try to fill a coolant circuit

For future reference: a fitting with a length of tube can be screwed in to the fill port to give it some wiggle room on backflow gurgles and running dry. Wider tube the better.

I kinda want to see more videos where they use the insane amount of resources and knowledge they have in the Lab to fix shitty products

@tobcyxob

Жыл бұрын

Remember when Linus drilled a hole in a PC case to increase it's thermals to 10 degrees?

@tdgchan

Жыл бұрын

This seems like something someone from a shitty product company would say... And I'm totally on board with it.

@shipwreck9146

Жыл бұрын

That'd be such a cool series!!! "We fixed your $h*t"

@quadrilaturalSamurai

Жыл бұрын

@@shipwreck9146 Best I could come up with was "Lab Rejects" -- I think you got the better idea.

I like how all the electricity stuff is right at the bottom instead of the top, that way it auto shuts off when there is a leak inside.

@teslatrooper

Жыл бұрын

It's a safety feature!

@chrisbaker8533

Жыл бұрын

Or explodes in spectacular fashion.

@Kr0noZ

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisbaker8533 This thing is getting 12 V max... I don't see it exploding, but the controller boards WILL go up in smoke if you're unlucky. This entire design is so extremely backwards, I'm almost sure they never actually tested this before bringing it to market.

@pirojfmifhghek566

Жыл бұрын

Don't worry, the plastic babies will keep the computer safe.

@drinkoldcoke

Жыл бұрын

The leak was at the TOP, so obviously keep the electrical on the bottom to keep it separated ;D.

As a note - you're using too much pressure when you tested the external radiator setup on its own. 0.3 bar is the recommended maximum for a complete loop, or anything involving a distribution plate. There's a chance to damage it running pressure that high. EK notes this in the manual.

I totally want to see that homemade external cooler. You could even sell plans to make it with 3D printers and stuff.

That fact that they noticed the problem instantly is hilarious. It really shows their level of experience with these types of things😂

@arklanuthoslin

Жыл бұрын

I think it speaks more to the crap design - Hell, I noticed it as soon as we saw the bubbles pull into the pump, and I've never even been around a water cooled system.

@phuzz00

Жыл бұрын

I've not built anywhere near as many watercooled builds as Linus or Alex, but I've definitely made all the same mistakes this product had, so I knew exactly where to look.

@J0SHUAKANE

Жыл бұрын

They never even read the manual.

@otroflores91

Жыл бұрын

​@@J0SHUAKANE Right, if you don't understand the design. Maybe glance at the instruction guide.

@Jehty21

Жыл бұрын

@@J0SHUAKANE and how exactly does the manual fix a fatal design flaw?

Adding a gigantic external cooler to an sff case is the greatestest idea

@zwenkwiel816

Жыл бұрын

yes so much space saved....

@chrisc1140

Жыл бұрын

I could see it if you move your computer a decent amount, but don't want a laptop for ...some reason I guess? Basically plug into this with QDs at home for max cooling, but still have SOME radiators (and a pump, which means you don't need this design specifically) for wherever else you're using your desktop.

@TheZRasmus

Жыл бұрын

@@chrisc1140 I am actually have a SSUPD meshlicious and I want to stick a 280mm rad in there, so I can do exact that. I have quick connects already on it. I actually like it, because it's always cool like gpu never hits more than 35°C in a 30°C environment, it's inaudible and I don't have a huge case on my desk, just a tiny one. It's more a project, so I have something to tinker around with xD

@chrisc1140

Жыл бұрын

@@TheZRasmus while I made fun of the idea, admittedly I've thought about it too. Would be trivially easy for me since I have the Xtia xproto-L so it'd basically just be setting a second radiator on the ground next to it

@AMerexican787

Жыл бұрын

To be fair most of the large rads can be wall mounted to keep them out of the way or you can even run the tubes through the wall into a different room to keep the room with the pc in it cooler.

a suggestion from a mechanic... instead of just filling the rad when we work on cars, we use a fill cup or some call it burping the radiator. so you use a funnel that fits tightly in the fill spout and over fill the funnel, when air comes out its automatically replaced with more water and it wont make such a huge mess like that.

5:00 that line going down and back up would create a syphon effect, making for an easier time filling and less work for the pumps, assuming I understand correctly. It should help prevent stray air bubbles too, if filled with patience :P

You guys should make this a thing. Fixing bad product designs and making them better/work 🎉😊

@MrPaxio

Жыл бұрын

there isnt many of them out there, cos you know, if it didnt work, it wouldnt even sell one unit.

@sireuchre

Жыл бұрын

That's how the screwdriver started, basically.

@Neptexian

Жыл бұрын

@@MrPaxio There's a lot more than you might think, particularly with sketchy/scammy sellers. It's just that a lot of people are smart enough to avoid them entirely.

@JimSefton

Жыл бұрын

@@sireuchre but realistically the LTT screwdriver isn't better than the compeition.... but their version of this could really be better!

@sireuchre

Жыл бұрын

@@JimSefton do you own one? From the launch video, and the various people trying it out, including various tradesmen, it has been received really well. Linus didn't mess around.

17:11 The pitch of the sound the blades make in standard A440 tuning is about E flat -ish (before it starts slowing down), so about 622Hz. The fans have 11 blades, so I'd say they are spinning at about 622Hz*60s/11≈3400rpm.

@freezingicy9457

Жыл бұрын

we have a wizard here

@eddievhfan1984

Жыл бұрын

Perfect pitch posse, RISE UP.

@etikkakurkku

Жыл бұрын

@@eddievhfan1984 I wish xd Just tested with my keyboard

@zarzies

Жыл бұрын

😮

@bariumlanthanum6298

Жыл бұрын

I fourier transformed it - can confirm

I'd love to see a follow-up video to this one where you guys build your own better version of it lol

I've picked up quite a lot of "budget watercooling stuff" off of Ali-Express, including Bykski and my experience of it all has been pretty good.

I would love to see a self-made version of this, stomping the original 😄

@theduck17

Жыл бұрын

Really wouldn't be hard. Just get a MO-RA360, Heatkiller Reservoir with D5 pump, 9 Arctic 120mm fans, EK soft tubes and fittings and couple of quick disconnects and that's it. I'm surprised their product is so bad, it's not that hard right now to do this so kinda no excuse.

@ImFrantic

Жыл бұрын

@@theduck17 I know, it would be easy af, but I wanna see them both building something stupid again 😄

@superrob1500

Жыл бұрын

Its called the desk of radiators. Made by Alex. Look it up.

@davidsharp9166

Жыл бұрын

Something with a huge radiator that leaks, no they've done that. If we are doing outer of case cooling. How about heating hot tub etc

For anyone looking to actually do something similar to this, the MoRa and Supernova line of radiators work great for this purpose

@Hunter-nb5bj

Жыл бұрын

Can confirm, I have a MoRa3 420 rad and it keeps my 1080ti in high 30s when under load with a OC

@sealx2292

Жыл бұрын

I have a MoRa 420 as well. Works great.

@Bassnova

Жыл бұрын

I’m glad I’m not the only one, can’t wait to get my first MoRa

@green-cash

Жыл бұрын

Yeah MoRa owner here, only 360 MoRa that i mount on the outside of my Case!

@scottbetza2999

Жыл бұрын

Where can you buy in US?

I would love to see how one of the old external passive tower coolers actually work. I was alway curious.

good old linus and alex crazy shenanigans with water cooling, loving this energy

This looks like the perfect opportunity to use all the fabrication tools LTT has to build a more elegant solution. Then either sell the unit in low volumes or release the schematics and build files as open source. Showing that process of semi-professional product design, engineering and "release" would be really awesome.

@MatsNorway

Жыл бұрын

LTT open source designs would be fun.

@joshuahadams

Жыл бұрын

Their old radiator video comes to mind.

@evolicious

Жыл бұрын

lol, sounds like a recipe for disaster. These guys are far from engineers.

@IanZamojc

Жыл бұрын

@@evolicious I mean, the company who built this cooler supposedly had an engineer and look what happened. The LTT folks identified the issues and have plenty of skilled staff and the equipment to iterate on this. Besides, there are no failures, only content.

I really want to see you guys making an external cooler like this and in a way DIY guys could use to build it.

@dtfech

Жыл бұрын

I went searching for exactly this comment! I think they could split it into two videos; one for entry level DIYers (no industrial equipment) and one of the best LTT can make with parts and equipment on hand

@zackzeed

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@xfy123

Жыл бұрын

@@dtfech you can make one with just home depo parts or your local equivalent it would probably cost you around 30 bucks for the materials. I made one for my next build, because there are legit no good eatx cases on the market rn for a reasonable price. I just welded a frame together i can fit 4 360rads in it i got a old PSU to power it and a cheap LCD fan controller on the front, i got a large metal mesh on the sides with a filter below it that just slides on and off. I only got 2 rads in it now but it's keeping my old gtx1070 and Ryzen 5 1600 at like 25 degrees idel and a peak of 50-60 degrees when gaming and that's with 6 year old thermal paste.

@kristapspuntulis99

Жыл бұрын

it would feel fair if during DIY project they stay in the same price range as this product, to se if they can make something better for the same money

@zigalanimations382

Жыл бұрын

Well i was gonna write that XD

It's about time we get a full tower case that triples as a radiator, reservoir and pump. It would have everything you need for water cooling, but it's also a fully functional case! I'm not talking about a case with all the liquid cooling essentials included inside of it, what i mean is to use each part as a piece of the case. Radiators with included fans for the side panels and top, reservoir front and/or back, and a replaceable pump somewhere easily accessible. Why doesn't this already exist?

I designed and built a version of this that cooled 7.5kw at 75db or 4.5kw at 55db. You could whisper over it. It’s just a dry cooler. I just built a hefty one using a pwm controlled automotive fan and two d5 pumps. It cooled a “server rack” system in our two phase immersion tanks

I would love to see you guys take parts of this and make it the way it should have been. Use the same Radiator but use better fans and your own water revisors to make it perfect. Maybe even showing us how to build one ourselves. I think this is a great idea for a product i just dont know how they messed up so badly

@JoeStuffzAlt

Жыл бұрын

For something that size, I wonder if it could cool multiple PCs. That would be a good use case. Instead of having 3 giant PC towers, you have the huge-ass radiator and 3 small form-factor PCs. I think they did a desk where the fans were on the desk, and that was a good example.

I was not expecting a plaintive cry of "Stop putting babies in the computeeeer!", in this review, but I think I love it. If you can fully explain why a terrible product is the way it is, and then try to fix it, that's content gold right there.

They were the only company I could find offering 6900XT SE waterblocks for Sapphire, and its been flawless. It hurt watching this. Like, paranoid hurt. I'm staring at my case right now.

@isakgronkvist5871

10 ай бұрын

Has it burned to ashes yet

@GoatzombieBubba

9 ай бұрын

@@isakgronkvist5871 6900 is AMD not Nvidia so no fires.

@majesty2699

9 ай бұрын

@@GoatzombieBubba r9 fury would like a word

I love how Alex & Linus looked at this and said "wow that's jank" with the immediate follow-up thought "WE KNOW JANK LET'S GOOO" and knew how to fix it in half a second

A trick to fill impossible loops is put a T and a valve in, then pull a vacuum on the coolant system, close the valve, put a tube in your liquid and connect it to the closed valve, then open and watch the water shoot through the entire system. Works every time on my last four builds.

@MrSn3akr

Жыл бұрын

And everyone has 1 of those 😁🤔

@comicsansgreenkirby

Жыл бұрын

@Karl Berget Alright, it's OK. Who knows - his other builds could've had strange edge cases like some of LTT's videos tend to + He's just posting a tip!

@chumprock

Жыл бұрын

Or you could just stick the return tube into the bottle of water....

@Tome_Wyrm

Жыл бұрын

Or do the same thing they did with one of the chillers. Just have a pressurized fill source. Which technically is what you're doing with a vacuum on the exit port.

@phtevenmolz5030

Жыл бұрын

This is basically how refrigerant systems are filled and the same concept behind how automotive coolant systems bleed themselves too. Actually a good tip.

I have a tip for filling hard to fill things like that radiator, a ptreol hand pump for a outboard motor works great to push liquid through with the system off!

I'd love to see you guys design your own liquid cooler by handbuilding w/ existing components and crafting a few if needed. Having ease of use/filling/maintenance, performance and easy of installation being some of the primary concerns.

For empty rads (or a crappy design), I thought it was common knowledge to just attach a tube to the fill port and lightly blow through it to get the water moving. It also lets you put in a few inches, or even feet, of water at a time and it can't burp on you. I've actually used a 6-12" tube with a fill cap plug on it on my last 2 builds and it tucks nicely behind front panel on many cases(above front mount fans or rad).

@Lexicon_

Жыл бұрын

Alternatively, they could have just used a PSU jumper to switch it on and off to power cycle the pump while filling it. Y'know, like sane people.

First we got the external GPUs, now we have external coolers, next each part of the PC will be kept in entirely separate rooms to ensure maximum cooling. Also, "We would have made it better than this" *Flashbacks to the PT Cruiser Cooler video*

@Lord_zeel

Жыл бұрын

That's called a server room.

@ElderKnight

Жыл бұрын

and maximum silence.

@keit99

Жыл бұрын

Isn't that just 1960s like Computers 😂

@carpelunam

Жыл бұрын

The Pt Cruiser was the worst car Ive ever owned in my life

@Jedibenuk

Жыл бұрын

You jest, but I'm sure I've seen someone e's watercooling system with a radiator OUTSIDE and the tubing run through the wall.

I love how during the intro, when Alex hands Linus the box, he stays close by to make sure Linus doesn't drop the thing before they even get to test it 😂 ❤

This probably would have been easier with the NR200MAX instead of the NR200P. The GPU mounts a little lower in the chassis in that one. I also had concerns about water making it all the way from the inlet to the outlet with how much radiator there is there.

Where can I bid on this item?

Pro tip: use a Mityvac MV6400 automotive pressure bleeder with the MV588 transmission adapter for complex loops. It threads into G1/4 and you can power bleed any loop no matter how complex. Put 2 valves at the end of the loop to block flow and open a drain and you can perform coolant changes in record time WITHOUT losing prime. Bonus is its 1 gallon so you can mix your distilled water and coolant concentrate right inside it. I have 4 radiators and 2 pumps in a o11 XL and needed a solution for maintenance, and this is what I found works best!

@spankeyfish

Жыл бұрын

Even the little funnels you can get with a G1/4 fitting on them would've improved this, lol

@Kowalskithegreat

Жыл бұрын

Or just buy a Aquacomputer Leakshield, I fill my system thru the EK drain fitting on my GPU block with it's internal vacuum pump and use the auto deaeration cycle a couple times afterwards, shit's cash. vac pump sensors valves and a display all built into the reservoir cap, and the matching D5 NeXt pump has it's own water temp sensor, pump controller, display and fan controller so you just flash the desired fan curves into it once thru software and it does it's own thing with fan/pump speeds. Can even display system info like cpu temps etc on either display. caveat- pump only has 1 fan output so you can only daisy-chain 3-4 or just get a splitty9 to control more like i did

@eclipsegst9419

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. A cheap brake bleeder and a tank full of water would have prevented them most certainly damaging the pump from running it dry.

@TheEchelon

Жыл бұрын

@@eclipsegst9419 If that's required to run this, then the design is inherently flawed. This isn't a car brake system, it's (well it should be) a relatively simple water cooling loop.

@eclipsegst9419

Жыл бұрын

@@TheEchelon not required. A little patience would have worked fine. But if they were in a hurry they should have used the right tool to hurry the process.

this seems like something that you guys could overhaul into something amazing, a followup would be great

always gets me, how much fun it looks like he's having, and then how stressed he is off camera. blows my mind O-o

@desmo78

Жыл бұрын

Imagine still using “O-o”

I’m using one of this Antec cases shown earlier with the water cooling holes in the back. It’s amazing!

I'd love to see a build with the MO-RA3 420 as a "How to do this but properly" video. Maybe you could make a project out of it by building a chassis incorporating it into the case?

@brrebrresen1367

Жыл бұрын

didn't Aquatuning have an universal external case for that or was it just for the 9x120mm variants? even the cheaper Phobya Xtreme Nova 1080 would slap the piece of crap they tested here, and that have been on the market since before Linus even break trough on KZread...

@chadlanc

Жыл бұрын

I use one with 200mm noctua fans, it’s wonderful

@antimatter818

Жыл бұрын

I have a mora3 420 with 200mm fans as well, best temps I've ever had and I love the quiet operation 😍

@theduck17

Жыл бұрын

I basically have the MO-RA360 version of this thing that actually works. Using quick disconnects, a Heatkiller res but a D5 pump instead (actually running two, one at the rad and one inside my NR200). Even have 9 fans like LTTs too, but mine are Arctic fans on a Noctua controller all connected to my mobo so I can monitor and control the fans I got excited when I saw this product originally announced but dang, what a horrible implementation. Just spec out your own MO-RA, use EK soft tubes and it'll be way better than that thing.

This has been such a delight to watch, thoroughly enjoyed watching you guys engineer a mod that made it work so quickly too. Hope to see you dig into more crappy products and see what how quickly you can fix them.

I’ve used closed loop cooling systems before (not pc cooling related but in semiconductor community.) there is a witchcraft voodoo type ritual to get a closed loop system work like this. You get air pockets all over in the lines and need a separate filler reservoir placed higher than your pumping loop to draw fluid from and pull the liquid from the bottle. Adding a drain line at the lower position to start the priming would help also. But yeah not an easy process to get going but once it’s full and going simple maintenance will keep you going for quite awhile. 😊

A few years ago i watercooled a 2700x and 5700xt entirely with Bykski products, water blocks and all, just to test the parts and see whether or not they were any good. It was ridiculously cheap to do so i said eh why not. It ended up working great, none of the fittings ever leaked over my 2 year use of the machine, no oxidation from bad metal alloys or anything. Overall great experience and i think i watercooled the entire system for something like 250 bucks, ended up overclocking that gpu within top 2% of the world or something like that

I just wanna thank David for the camerawork and the sound bytes during the video. Please keep up the good work.

The moment he said test your patience i double tapped the screen so hard Linus personally knows us now

@user-en4ho2dz4u

Жыл бұрын

You slipped 10 secs if you're on a phone

@Quizack

Жыл бұрын

@@rustler08 I think he actually said “rest your Asians”.

@baconwizard

Жыл бұрын

@@user-en4ho2dz4u you should be able to change the amount it skips by… or use a sponsor-block extension

@KalijahAnderson

Жыл бұрын

Not the only one.

If you are going with an external radiator like that, you might as well just janky-rig an aquarium chiller. I have not tried it myself, but I would imagine you might have some condensation problems in the PC if the temperature in the chiller is set too low. EDIT: It looks like you guys already did one :) kzread.info/dash/bejne/eoGo2KebdJWzgdI.html

We use same mechanism for furnance/central heating with diesel. The bubbles start forming when the tubes aren't tightened from reservour.

Out of context: 13:05 Linus: “Stop putting babies in the computer! 😩” 👀

I want an LLT series on there own external rads, Like the radiator table they built I've watched that a half dozen times and it's still great.

@LuisMaSuarezGutierrez

Жыл бұрын

i mean they already did that with coolers. I'd watch that

@anderssorenson9998

Жыл бұрын

@@LuisMaSuarezGutierrez Yeah, It's such a shame they have to tear those builds down afterwards, it would be great to see how they stack up. Like the car radiator cooler done right. Also really curious to see their engineers do their own version of this external rad.

Sometimes you need to break surface tension to get bubbles to move. Feeding in a long flexible "stick" like some 3D printer filament can sometimes break the tension and let it flow. Or a length of super thin tubing.

@Jehty21

Жыл бұрын

Or add dish soap.

3:58 EK only recommends using 0.3 bar of pressure for leak testing a whole loop.

Alex is by far my favorite host. Such a unique intersection of brilliantly deadpan and ridiculously silly.

@coryandrum

Жыл бұрын

More people should like this, He just never changed over years of hosting.

This is one of the most entertaining videos you put out in the last couple of months and I love it.

i love how he adresses the fans being at 3k rpms witch i literally have my fans spinning at 6k rpms and its sooo loud

Ngl these videos are way more entertaining than actually informative tech vids

They owe you $600 for fixing their own product 😂

The level of excitement Alex has at 16:42 when they fix the problem is wholesome as fuck

Big external radiator is good if you put it in the fridge or outside in the winter- not below 32F/0C

Some newer vehicles have very complex coolant circuits that can be very difficult to properly purge the air from. They make a tool that goes on a cars coolant fill point and puts the entire coolant circuit under a vacuum, then allows you to fill the circuit under a vacuum. These tools, while fairly expensive, are very simple. Im sure there is some sort of a way of filling this using a vacuum, removing all air in one shot, plus you can use the vacuum as a leak test. Another leak test method used on automobiles that may or may not be helpful in leak testing a PC water coolant circuit is a smoke machine. You fill the circuit with pressurized smoke and look for the points where smoke leaks. Some of the smoke testing mediums have a dye, and anywhere there is a leak you can see the dye with an ultraviolet light. I really do think putting a vacuum on this would help, but the better choice would probably be in buying a product that doesn't require you to do so. $700!!! Yikes!!!

I would _love_ to see the Ultimate Cooling Chaos Duo try and one-up this thing in an afternoon! Or better yet, a livestream 😄

Without a doubt, Alex's LTT vids are probably my favorite lol it's always a good time

hey Linus take a D5 Res Combo from EK or other Manufacture, hook it with a Quickconnetors into the loop and spill the loop with the external pump, works a lot easier and your Shoes doesnt get wet.

This reminds me of my apprentices trying to fill & bleed a boiler system for the first time. Let gravity and pre-filling everything possible guide you, fellas.

That’s why I have a MORA next to my NCase M1 :) silent pc with easy quick release fittings and a „small“ radiator on the bottom of the case for lan usage … where only older games are running and don’t need much performance

@rubiconnn

Жыл бұрын

Is all of the added bulk and complexity worth it? I figure I would just go with a good air cooler and be done with it.

@ConquerorDash

Жыл бұрын

@@rubiconnn water cooling is rarely "worth it". I use it because I can have powerful components and never worry about the noise. And also because it is cool.

@Chloe_Priceless

Жыл бұрын

@@rubiconnn i done it because i wanted a relative small case which is "easy" Transportable to take it every year to the lan during the winter holidays with my friends. And for Gaming at home the NCase M1 is standing on my desk silently. I Have a 3080Ti in It and a Ryze 3700X (time for a Upgrade). At Lan the noise is forgettable. I Dont Like Big Cases but love Silence - i dont use Headphones (only on lans) .. at home i have good speakers.

@rubiconnn

Жыл бұрын

@@Chloe_Priceless I have a Ryzen 3800x and an RTX 2080 jammed into a tiny Silverstone SB13 case and a tiny Noctua nhl9i CPU cooler and it's more than adaquate for my 3800x running overclocked. I sewed a leather carrying handle for it and take it like everywhere I go lol.

I have had a Bykski waterblock/water cooled backplate on my 3090 for the last two years. The only issue I have had is the pump housing was defective and cracked after 5 months, but they acknowledged it was faulty and sent me a replacement at no charge (didn't even have to pay shipping). The setup was not cheap at all. I paid around $400 for everything.

@chillnspace777

Жыл бұрын

Did you get the 3090 at retail pricing?

@Nza420

Жыл бұрын

@@chillnspace777 I got it at super scalper pricing..

I think it's very wholesome that the tech review guys in this orbit are including videos of each other to dispel recent assertions there is hostility between them. I have no idea whether it is intentional, or whether I watched some bs that made me think there might be and all these recent inclusions of each other are purely coincidental: but I like it.

It's water hammer! It's squirting when you turn it off because all the momentum in THAT MUCH TUBING suddenly hits the resistance of a stopped pump. Go watch Practical Engineering's video on water hammer. Also, a vertical tube (with a fitting) on the fill port gives space for water and bubbles to settle in. Stick a funnel in there for even more wiggle room. Easy mode. What are you guys doing?

That was chaotic and rewarding to watch lmao. Definitely one of my favorite videos from LTT

If I could go back in time I would get a degree and work for you. I smile so much when I watch all of LMG's content. Thanks guys n gals. Keep it coming. I watch everything every single day.

i use an external rad since 2016, 480mm phobya rad with two 240mm fans. case is a HAF-X and it features those gromets on the back but in my case it has 3.. best case ever and the "car radiator" on the side bench have put smiles on many forum members.. :D also provides nice living room heating during winter lol

wait the old 12V + 5V mixed DC jack! I have seen those in some of our old industrial appliances. Pretty cool idea to re-utilize them for this.

I love how them using this product gave us the same type of chaos you see in an Alex an Linus janky cooling project video.

The crying baby sound got a giggle out of me every time. Whoever came up with that gag is a messed up SOB, and I'm all for it 😂

@drewpearson6722

Жыл бұрын

Where did the baby thing come from? My first guess is always TikTok

i use a external water cooler on my itx setup, keeps desk clear which is nice although mine is an ancient koolance server grade one and needs some modifications to make it quieter

I had a similar stand (not enclosure) about 7-8 years ago. I used a 9x120mm fan rad with 4x 200mm fans iirc to simultaneously cool 2 pcs in a single loop.

The first PC i ever build myself was cooled by a thermaltake Rocket. I loved that thing so much that im still trying to find one to use in my current build. Just not gunked up and looking like its 100 years old.

@Hellsong89

Жыл бұрын

Looks rather simple design. You should be able to reproduce clone rather easily if some parts are gone crusty. Mind you can now days 3D print and cast plastic, well as make silicone molds that was before required pretty excessive amount of money.

Nothing better than than Alex and Linus creating havoc together

JayzTwoCents made a video about this type of cooling setup. A few years back, it wasn’t built by a 3rd party company. He took aluminum channel framing, 4 - 480mm radiators (I believe), 1 box fan and then stuck the radiators to the fan. It did really well for being homemade.

I bought a full setup by Bykski, since their GPU-Cooler was compatible with my 3080TI and I like their company logo. Long story short: it was a complete disaster and I would strongly recommend against buying any product from them. CPU-Cooler RAY-MK-M: the base is so uneven, that from edge to the middle there was a near 1 mm difference. The cooler struggled to keep up with my 5800X until I painstakingly lapped the surface for 2-3 hours (the nickel plating is now completely gone). Pump CP-PA-X-CT60-V2-100: stopped working after 4-5 months and is now replaced with a pump from EK-Waterblocks. Fittings B-FT3-TN-V2-BK: look and feel nice, but the coating wears off. After installing 8 Fittings, my fingers were black. Radiator CR-RD360RC-TK60-V2: it was still filled with some grinding sand (like a fine powder of sorts) which contaminated the entire loop and pump upon the first run! I had to replace all the tubes and clean all the components. Unspeakable! GPU-Cooler N-GV3090GMOC-X: actually somewhat decent. It's the only component I'm happy with. With my old loop (mostly EK-Waterblocks) I had no issues whatsoever.

very entertaining. I really enjoy the part where you tried fixing their design in a few minutes.

@jeffreymontgomery7516

Жыл бұрын

tried? succeeded!

One can imagine how often the water dispensers in the Bykski offices have to be refilled this weekend.

I have a 1080 radiator, but I prefer the reservoir-pump group in the chassis, and the only epdm tubes going away to the radiator. That's 2 way of thought, I don't like much the reservoir pump group away from the chassis (here the reason was clear!), others put the pump with the radiator even if they have a lot of space. Thanks for the review.

Thanks for the great content LMG! Just as the setup was derailing...the "babies" put me over the top. OMG! Sometimes you just have to go with it. On camera moding...loved this one! 😂

Looks a lot like a Watercool MO-RA3. I've been using one of those for years and it's great. It uses 4 noctua 200mm NF-A20s and I can't hear it no matter the load but it stays cool nonetheless. Edit: lol that price, yeah get a mor-ra3 made in Germany for 200 euros and add your own noctua fans and a good reservoir and D5 pump.

@cl4ster17

Жыл бұрын

It's closer to an Alphacool SuperNova than a Watercool MO-RA. The former uses flat tubes like most radiators while the latter uses round tubes.

@olivergottkehaskamp3369

Жыл бұрын

Same here! Feeding 500 watts into gpu+cpu when running at full blast has never been more quiet - as in, literally the same noise level as when idling. I'll never go back to a noisy air cooled solution.

@TheZRasmus

Жыл бұрын

Got the same setup, except for 9 Arctic p14! Love the combination of a MO-RA3 and a small case.

@2afk

Жыл бұрын

I own a Zalman Reserator

@Nothinglastsforever

Жыл бұрын

@GH0STST4RSCR34M MO-RA pre-dates that significantly.

"These are clearly fans..." That's the kind of information I subscribe to LTT for!

@cdburner5911

Жыл бұрын

It truly is some hard hitting reporting.

Perhaps, replace the fill tube you cut with one that matches the OEM tube and have a device to pressurize the system from the fill port and allow for filling.