I have a couple of Loriers and although I love sapphire, I feel there is definitely room for hesalite crystals especially when you are making such an effort to be period correct. So much warmer and way less smudgy. Actually more resistant to breaking than sapphire, but obviously more prone to scratching. But, POLYWATCH (which Lorier is now including with new orders). If you enjoy the connection that daily winding provides, ocassionally caring for the crystal is a great way to foster that connection as well. I certainly wouldn’t want nothing but acrylics, but there is definitely a place for it, IMO. Great video.

@danbrown7857

2 жыл бұрын

I totally agree! Acrylic has its place, to be sure.

Loved your review. I was on the fence about the watch when I saw it on their site but after seeing this video I feel like I must own one. Thank you!

I 100% agree with the drilled lug statement. I own a vintage Tudor with drilled lugs ( only on the left side) and it's such a luxery, most of my premium leather traps don't have quick release springbars so can be a horror to remove

I was waiting for this one !! Thank you 😉👌

This is awesome! I just got the blue version two weeks ago and could not stop staring at it. Love it, gonna get their GMT as soon as it's available.

Lorier's design is impeccable. I have a Falcon 2 and it's brilliant

Lorier has been doing just about everything right lately. Fantastic vintage- esque feel, fantastic proportions, beautiful build quality and great price makes them far more easily accessible than Tudor/Rolex. I absolutely LOVE the Tudor Chrono and am currently shopping for one, but this is a great option and you don't have to worry about someone trying to break your wrist to get at it. I am not bothered by the Hesalite especially on a more vintage feeling piece. Great video, keep up the great work.

Just a comment to support your channel. Thanks for the review, love your work!

This is definitely my next piece. Love the look of the Gemini. I even sort of like a little ‘jangle’ in a bracelet!😂 And I applaud Lorier for choosing acrylic. Vintage look, zero glare, nice distortion. Love it! Nice review!

I have a Neptune 3 and I have no issues with acrylic at all. I have so many watches with sapphire, it’s nice to have something different. I don’t treat my watches roughly, so I polish out any small scratches every couple months and it’s good as new.

Hi Oleg, a good review of a lovely watch, & a very well made model! I bought the Neptune some 2 years ago & it’s a favourite in my vast collection. I’ve looked at this model many times but other watches have blocked it’s path!🤣 I’d still definitely stick with the hesalite crystal! Definitely a consideration nonetheless!👍🏼🇦🇺

Hello and happy Friday from Chicago! I’ve had my eye on Lorier for a while now and think their watches aesthetically are very pleasing. I agree with you on that a sapphire crystal would be nice but for the price point still not bad. A matching blue seconds hand to match the blue “Gemini” would really make the dial pop. I really like the Hyperion GMT and have come close a few times to pulling the trigger and buying but haven’t. TGV’s collaboration Safari with the copper/salmon dial is amazing but I wish they offered in a bigger size (39mm) along with the 36mm option. I’m definitely going to pick one up for myself this year. Lorier for a small micro brand and price I fell they are step above a lot of the others houses/brand. Great review and stay warm!!

Another great video brother!

You've sold me on this piece Oleg. I've been interested in Lorier for a while too, both the Gemini and the Hyperion. I was a little worried about the size though cos I have an 8" wrist. I love 39mm sports watches, but generally prefer anything with a tool bezel to be ~ 41mm. But I have a 38mm Merker Panda with a black border at the dial edge (which shrinks the dial visually), and that wears a bit small but it works. So that means the Lorier should wear well, so I'll buy the Gemini and sell the Merkur. I love the ST19 too, and pretty much buy everything that uses it (as long as I like the watch). Thanks for helping me make up my mind!

Great review. Quite agree on almost every points here. 👍 I also had a crush on this watch and bought right away (with the Lorier Falcon too). Very nice and clean design. Perfect size for my small wrist. Robust movement known for doing the job properly. Very nice bracelet too. Very comfortable with a feeling of robustness. And the watch is a strap monster anyaway: love it on a brown leather vintage racing strap. 😎 I also love the 12h bezel that is supposed to be used for the hours of the stopwatch, but I also use it as a second timezone. 😉 Well designed: thin, clean and small arabic. Very subtle. 👌 It’s a hit for me, specially for the price. Looks way more expensive than it is. If I have to be picky on this timepiece, I feel like the ’2D’ hands looks a bit cheap here compare to the overall design. And IMHO the bracelet is very nice for a micro-brand, but the edges are a bit too shap and I would love a chanfer on each side like on the case.

I really like my Lorier Falcon 2. I tested it for a week, wearing it during the day & leaving it face-up in my watch box at night. At the end of the week, it was -5 sec! I also really like the way the acrylic crystal looks (but I confess I’ve never had a box sapphire).

I absolutely love lorier watches, the neptune has been a grail watch for me and I finally got my hands on one . I've had both the Tudor BB 56 as well as the chronograph on wrist and I have to agree with you that this is a better option all around. Price point, looks and quality are on par with Tudor and 1/4 of the price.

I owed the the reverse panda and it's definitely a good piece for the price. Nice to see a company pull from other designs but yet the outcome is 100% Lorier.

Really like this & what lorier are doing with their designs.

Did you see the new version has the blue chronograph hand now?

Great watch. I have the black dial. Keeps great time. To me it disappears on the wrist because it is so comfortable. This is my 3rd Lorier. Have a Neptune and 36mm Falcon

Tudor needs to make the GMT and Chrono in the BB58 dimensions. The popularity of the BB58 is largely due to its size being perfect for so many wrists. I’m sure Tudor sees this since they made the original Black Bay smaller into the BB58. That original Black Bay was similar size as the GMT and Chrono so I wouldn’t be surprised to see those watches getting the same treatment in the future. If they do, I’d 100% buy the GMT immediately.

I would go with hesalite with this design. The only gripe I have is the arrow head on the hour hand seems a little small. Certainly one of the best chrono at this price range.

I already have a Lorier (black and gilt Neptune) and i like it so much that I need to hold myself back from buying more. I would love to add the blue Hydra II and white dial Gemini to the collection.

I have a gen 1 Neptune and Hydra and love them. You did show this, but it’s worth saying the bracelet articulates beautifully and feels really comfortable. However Lorier could learn a thing or two from San Martin about clasp improvement.

I have a falcon 2 in gilt and im now itching to get this piece as my first mechanical chronograph. i agree with your comparison to the tudor chrono- it feels off balanced and as if its trying a little too hard/ overcompensating for something

Great watch & review👍

@24hourstime

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

The lorier safari is such a beautiful watch. This is also a nice looking watch, not sure it would fit my slim wrists. But this is very nice.

Great video! I understand that they tried to keep that vintage vibe by using a closed case back but, that is a little disappointing. Seagull movements are very good-looking. I am curious, what is your opinion about this watch having a complex-looking seagull movement but a close case back?

@Billeh556

2 жыл бұрын

They owners specifically cover that. They are vintage, through and through and didn’t ever consider it as they never had open casebacks back in the day.

I like hesalite for dress and casual watches - easy to polish out scratches

This my favorite modern panda chronograph design next to the Zenith Chronomaster Originals that came out in 2021. I also think it’s Lorier’s best watch. The proportions and legibility are fantastic, and there are no extraneous details to clutter things up. The acrylic crystal adds interesting distortion and tends to limit glare and smudges, which I’m happy with as a tradeoff vs sapphire. Overall, this is an amazing watch and for $500 it has satisfied my desire for a panda Chronograph, while keeping me uninterested in most of the modern panda dials out there.

@thetimemachine3828

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. And Zenith are killing it, hey? The A385with the ladder bracelet and tobacco fume dial? Sublime.

@24hourstime

2 жыл бұрын

Man, I got to check out that Zenith!

@typebflieger

2 жыл бұрын

@@thetimemachine3828 Oh, yeah. That’s a stunner! For me, it’s either the panda or reverse panda Chronomaster original. I honestly can’t decide. Zenith is definitely the top of my list for Chronographs for it’s design and mechanical chops.

@typebflieger

2 жыл бұрын

@@24hourstime If you could get your hands on a Zenith Chronograph (any of them) it would be an incredible addition to your slate of reviews!

@thetimemachine3828

2 жыл бұрын

@@typebflieger I second that! 🙂

Omg Lorien..where do u find those watches! 🤒🤒🤒🤕🤕🤕

I've eyed up the Lorier collection at various points, but it seems like all their watches have hesalite crystals? I'm like you - I'd prefer the option of sapphire instead. I've tried getting scratches out of the resin crystal of my F91W with Polywatch, but that stuff doesn't work miracles. I'd be bummed to spend hundreds of dollars on a watch and not have the option of sapphire.

you had me at drilled lugs!

Wow... I agree with you all you said. THAT watch looks exceptionally great, especially the dial is super clean and classy. for me, I rather have the "light blue" text on the dial to "deep red" (like your Bond with a Seamaster hoodie, ha ha") along with same deep red color second hand. That would be awesome. I also prefer Sapphire over Hesalite, of course. As for the clasp, yes, it really need some improvement. Something unique and adjustable style (like Glide lock or some sort which a lot of companies are going with...) thanks for the review, Oleg! BTW, where is Bond? I haven't seen him in 2022!!!! ha ha ha Is he on Vacation? to Hawaii?

Not bad looking but I find the hour and minute hands better suited for a diver. Hamilton Intermatic chronograph got it right. If you find the Hamilton to thick for your liking Christopher Ward makes a very nice one the C65 Chronograph

Good dimensions for me, I dislike thick watches and I also dislike the snowflake hand. Good recommendation 🙂👍

Nice looking watch, pricey for the specs tho...I'd go for one of the myriad of Chinese chronographs that use this movement with sapphire crystal myself. Prefer this to the Tudor- tho I don't like the Black Bay range (like that Royal you're wearing tho) Good review, nice watch. Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻

@Valvey789

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I would go for the Ali Express "Sugess" brand for a chrono with this movement. I can't see paying

Great review. I agree with your comments, and I really like this Lorier, however I'm not a fan of the Seagull ST19. I have this movement in a Seagull 1963, and although it works, the winding action is very very hard... the crown is incredibly hard to turn, not sure why. Once wond the watch seems to work fine however. I'm just concerned as this movement seems to work for the most part, but reliability is questionable. I know this may sound crazy, but I almost forfeit the mechanical benefits of this movement including manual winding and chrono pushers action for the unbelievable reliability of a Japanese meca-quartz. Thank you again for your fantastic review and input. Cheers.

@felo6035

2 жыл бұрын

@@IDKline thank you, makes sense, something is defective for sure. I have heard of this issue before but with no real indication of the true nature of the problem....

If only Lorier could fit the Seiko NE86 in this case design and make a tachymetre version... that would be a pretty special watch.

Love the watch, great size but a huge gripe with the hesalite crystal, it scratches way too easy, if they don’t want to install sapphire then at the very least mineral glass, great review Oleg..

@Billeh556

2 жыл бұрын

Totally disagree- Mineral you can’t even buff out once you scratch it. At lease Hesalite can be refinished very easily….

I do like Lorier an awful lot ever since the Neptune and it’s updated versions. Still contemplating buying one but importing one into the UK always costs more so may look for a pre-owned Neptune. Anyway I digress from this one, and I love it too, the dial is just lovely and clean and it been manual wind will help a lot with the thickness of the case (keeping it slim). On the Hesalite V Sapphire battle I’m a little on the fence although in truth I think that what put me off the Neptune. Perhaps a box sapphire is the answer but the cost would soar. In truth I just want to touch and feel one before committing, always almost impossible with a microbrand unfortunately. 🤷‍♂️

Hi. I'm from the future. Lorier must have watched your video because the second hand is now baby blue

9:34 Definitely think your crazy. BB chrono panda looks 100x better to me and wears perfectly! It needs to be seen and worn in person. So classy yet oh so sporty. I personally love the snowflake hands on the chrono. This design on this Lorier watch is very clean too though so I do like them both but prefer the BB chrono a lot more. BTW, love your tudor royal watch, it's gorgeous!!!!

its a nice watch i do like it but not a fan of hesalite crystal should be saphire... cheers

Well Said

Re. rhe crystal: I understand the owners wanted to go vintage. Obviously, they factored in that by using hesalite that would make them stand apart but didn't care about courting potential customers with sapphire crystal ( they don't want you or me - unless they want more profit(?)). Good luck to them ( at least the bracelet looks comfortable & there's drilled lugs - on all watches , please except dress pieces ).

Like you I don't like Tudor's snowflake hour Hand. I also dislike arrow heads on hour hands - Lorier, Omega and others.

I have to agree that this set of dimensions for me are perfection. Similar to the bb58. I wish seiko would make more divers in these dimensions.

I wish this watch was automatic, with a sapphire crystal too.

Look I won’t claim to know watches so please don’t use really esoteric terms... I want to buy my friend a good for the money watch. 500-700$ range I don’t want to go crazy it’s a casual gift for no real reason. Would this be a good pick? Like would you appreciate it as a random gift?

Love the watch dont trust the movement.

At this price point, it should have sapphire crystals, front and back. Mechanical movements should be seen! And I've had 2 of these movements that have failed, a real hassle. Another mechanical movement needs to be used, even if it's a segal. The 19 movement is unacceptable for me after 2 failures. But with these current features, it's unacceptable and too expensive. If these issues ever get addressed, I would gladly buy the watch, even at $499.

@24hourstime

2 жыл бұрын

Some good point. I haven’t even thought about a display caseback.

I have 8 inch wrists and big forearms so the 39mm is a huge deal breaker

@24hourstime

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it would definitely be too small for your wrist!

I always thought Lorier had nice aesthetics but the overall finishing to be bland - also for the price. Lots of rough edges.

If Lorier offered saphire versions of their watches i’m positive i would own one today

OLEG - PLEASE GET CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE!!! Very nice chrono!

I wish this watch was automatic

I think you can make a vintage inspired watch and also take advantage of modern materials. Sapphire is so much more practical for an everyday piece and hesalite isn't.

I've never felt the supposed visual quality difference of acrylic was enough to use it over a sapphire crystal. Honestly, the difference is negligible to none to my eyes. I'd take sapphire over acrylic always if given the choice. For me, the hype for using acrylic over sapphire to give a more vintage vibe is totally overrated. And, no, I've never had sapphire crystal crack if the impact resistance is supposedly better for acrylic. In fact, acrylic has cracked on me before. Sapphire never and of course it also never scratches. Oh, I do prefer an st1901 movement over a mecha-quartz. I can't stand the usual mecha-quartz movement that utilitizes the useless 24-hr sub dial. That's the main thing that bugs me these days about that movement. It's such a filler feature that is basically useless just to fill out and complete a "chronograph look", but essentially offers no chronograph related feature nor does it do anything for normal time reading. I know if it's night or day with my eyes, it can't be independently set for a 2nd time zone, and I know how to translate 12-hr to 24-hr equivalent in my head already. The Lorier is nice looking, but it's not exactly the same aesthetic design as a bb58 panda chrono. And, it's not meant to be. For $1000s less.. in fact half of $1000, it's a very good buy for the style of chronograph it is.

I disagree with the idea that the Lorier is better than the Tudor. Two very different price points and two very different levels of quality.

A Chinese seagull movement over a Breitling movement?? Not even close!!

Honestly lorier watches have very poor finishing on hands etc.

Way overpriced with Hesalite and ST19 movement!

Look nice but the quality look china made,no sapphire,bracelet look cheap and the caliber....oh my god... the lume look like 25 years ago....at that price....

I had a Baltic with a ST19... please don't buy an st19, it was awful

@lordbogus6709

2 жыл бұрын

@@thetimemachine3828 the whole movement stopped after it counted 8 minutes with the chrono

@thetimemachine3828

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordbogus6709 - How did Baltic go with service? I've heard that there's been a heap of trouble with the recent micro-rotor release too. That truly is an untested mov't, I was surprised when the community went bonkers for it... In any case, if you are at all interested to try the ST19 mov't again (but if once bitten twice shy I get it...) pick up any of the 1963 variants from Sugess and buy the swan neck regulated version. They come from the Tianjin factory and are solid. I'm into vintage chrono's, these watches have the same feel and as a package are better than they have a right to be for $200 -$250. Something I can wear daily without having to worry... I'ma fan of the mo'vt.