really interesting to see some competition to x86 on the desktop :D

@elmariachi5133

Жыл бұрын

I am still waiting for ARM not only be more efficient but also as fast as current high end x86 CPUs. I don't believe it can live up to the hype, yet. With increased performance the efficiency will go down and Ryzen 7000 has shown that there also is room for improvement on the x86 side.. in the end the difference might be marginal and then the major point for decision will be the vastly better situation of existing OSses and software for x86. And the supposed advatnage of smaller and more cores is a very specific thing, whcih IMHO is already exaggerated in it's relevance, when speaking of 'general workstation usage' (despite workstating of course already bering veery specific in itself). As even most 'work related' software just can't make of of many cores.

@luisortega8085

Жыл бұрын

apparently intel might make hybrid x86+arm cpus iifc

@russellzauner

Жыл бұрын

Is it time for an OpenCores/RISC-V update?

@SuperDavidEF

Жыл бұрын

@@found13 ba-dum tsss!

@MXG000

Жыл бұрын

​@@luisortega8085 says who ?

Seeing Tux Kart run that slowly makes me wonder what a software renderer written to utilize this many cores could do.

@Thorhian

Жыл бұрын

I believe Crisis can, going by an LTT video reviewing a Threadripper chip.

@leosmi1

Жыл бұрын

hahahahah LOL

@Eduardo_Espinoza

Жыл бұрын

Is that why it performs like a raspberry pi zero?

I hope these beefy arm processors go mainstream, this is exactly what we, homelab enthusiasts, need but cheaper

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

Hopefully in a couple years some of these systems start coming up used for a good discount!

@RustedCroaker

Жыл бұрын

Hope it'll be the open RISC V and not the proprietary ARM

@marnig9185

Жыл бұрын

...and Windows will finaly dei.

@Ghfvhvfg

11 ай бұрын

Asahi Linux and Lenovo x13 porting is getting the first steps towards full arm functionality for Linux and Windows even though I Microsoft executive team is the devil in some ways.

@notNajimi

12 күн бұрын

@@RustedCroakerI mean it’s not like those things matter for users. I do hope RISCV wins out in the end for that reason, but open-source ISAs are good for smaller designers and manufacturers primarily

It could be, but we know it won't be modular. Lmao

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

Trash can Mac 2.0? But more seriously... I still hope Apple doesn't abandon the workstation market again. They've always had compelling (if a bit exotic) hardware on the high end!

@MarcoGPUtuber

Жыл бұрын

@@JeffGeerling It'll be Trash Can 2.0. Because that's the nature of Apple Silicon. The Mac Studio basically fills that niche right now and it's faster than the Intel Mac pro. I think it will just be a bigger Mac Studio

@Freshbott2

Жыл бұрын

I don’t really see the point. The benefits of PC add nothing to Mac. They could just stick an M2 Max in the Mini and you can get whatever you probably wanted from a Mac Pro and the Studio is a flop. Anything a true Mac Pro would offer, you’d just use a PC or a Linux machine for.

@yasirrakhurrafat1142

Жыл бұрын

@@MarcoGPUtuber Mac studio can be tackled by other hardware. ( I think you're referring to the new arm stuff ) I thought efficiency was better.. but undervolt any new hardware and you'd get pretty close efficiency. Thought software was better, make a Macintosh. No modularity and proprietary everything is the benefit of mac.

@MarcoGPUtuber

Жыл бұрын

@@yasirrakhurrafat1142 Lmao. It's the greatest weakness

Microsoft actually did make the arm build for windows more publicly available recently. This is part of their own in house arm dev kit being pushed out.

@Dave102693

Жыл бұрын

Where can you easily download the iso?

@SkynetCyb

Жыл бұрын

@@sysesc That's not "More easily available" tho, uup dump was always available

Some nostalgia from your commentary, boy do I miss the 2009 Mac Pro. Also, I think my first time building a kernel was around 1998 and was either a Pentium 1 or a 486. Hearing "2 minutes" for a kernel build was crazy.

@Jakdaw

Жыл бұрын

Kernel was a lot smaller back then too!

@morosis82

Жыл бұрын

The craziest bit is that if you have seen the L1Techs content, Wendell is getting under 2 minutes for the allmods compile. I think they're under 20s for just the kernel these days.

@ketatgenhorst

Жыл бұрын

@@Jakdaw Right - as a matter of a fact, I believe we talked about a size much smaller than current being unimaginably large. Sort of the Linux version of "No one will ever need more than 64k of ram".

@Spectru91

Жыл бұрын

why would you miss overpriced crap?🤣🤣🤣 because that's is all what apple does

@mikeuk1927

Жыл бұрын

@@Spectru91 Come on, I know they make overpriced, unrepairable, proprietary, locked hardware, which I hate, but they also have some things going for them. You cant's deny their computers just look pretty and the higher end models are quite powerful. My A1398 late 2012 MBP has better specs than my 2015 Asus

Wow! What an amazing system Jeff!! When you're into hardware like this, you're in rarified air and you have to figure things out for yourself. Interesting how Linux just loads and boots up and runs perfectly on this. Linux is great!

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

Agreed, I love how Linux runs on practically everything, and is always first to come to new architectures like RISC-V

@Xpll

Жыл бұрын

​@@JeffGeerling i think what RISC-V. really needs is a new wine/proton port update for running x86 programs. Before i heard about RISC-V, i knew OpenRISC as a similar architecture, yet never seen a board on it. if they even exist, can you make a video about it?

@Xpll

Жыл бұрын

@@parad0xheart i know that a concept like this doesn't sound that practical, however i believe that if done properly, it can make the RV64 architecture more viable. The problem though is what you've exactly mentioned. Indeed it can be a difficult task, but in theory, it shouldn't be impossible to initiate a project like this; as well as attracting more needed demand for RISC-V

Good work, Jeff. What a wonderful machine they gave you to test. Hope you are well and all the best to family who help these great vlog.

It's nice seeing crazy machines like this, there are so many ways to do things and I can see how this kind of architecture could be so useful. Also, Rocky Linux is great (that's what I'm running). This channel is where you can see stuff other than what you see all the time.

@JoeSpeed

Жыл бұрын

supports rocky

Finally, been waiting for so long for someone to make this video! Nice job as always Jeff

You do a great job wasting your time on trial-and-error using the same methods that most of us would do at 3am. Now I get to experience the disappointing result and still get sleep. Thanks Jeff!

This is becoming “the intrusive thoughts won” channel and I love it. I just wanna see Jeff power trough the win installation 😅. He found a working graphics card for the pi after years, he can definitely run windows on the ampere 😊

@dundee248

Жыл бұрын

While maybe a fun challenge it would be basically just for giggles. The software support on WoA is basically non-existant while linux has been there for over a decade (thanks to the pi et al)

@Liqtor

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Microsoft makes an ARM-version of Windows. Why anyone would torture once self with that is beyond me. 😀

@killerb255

11 ай бұрын

@@Liqtor Of course they do. Windows 11 has an ARM64 version.

Great to see you finally got your hands on an Ampere.

Fascinating video Jeff. Not surprised you can't get windows working, it's windows being, well windows. Nice to see Arm systems coming along leaps and pounds with the possibility of giving the desktop some competition. Glad to see you looking so well.

Thanks Jeff, really appreciating what you did, can't wait to see more competition / review in future videos.

Just got this recommended to me 15 seconds after it came out

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

Someday we'll whittle that down to 5 seconds! Maybe if KZread switches to Ampere servers ;)

@MarcoGPUtuber

Жыл бұрын

Hit the bell icon to get it recommended everytime!😊

This is pretty cool. It would be great if something like Proxmox would add official support for a setup like this. Even 24 or 48 cores would make a worthwhile machine in this kind of setup. Hopefully this is just the beginning of the Arm workstation era!

@IngwiePhoenix

Жыл бұрын

kickass homeservers with this kinda chip would be amazing. :)

Hopeful we will start seeing some more power efficient ARM desktops in the future!

@kirle5455

Жыл бұрын

I hope to see more RISC-V and there are already some dev boards.

@bluesillybeard

Жыл бұрын

And a functional Graphics card driver for Linux+ARM

@protocetid

Жыл бұрын

@@kirle5455 there’s a RISC V tablet now

@horacewonghy

11 ай бұрын

Tv box with amlogic😂

@horacewonghy

11 ай бұрын

@@kirle5455 There are plenty of risc v in China, but of course the use experience is awful.

Your patience and perseverance is unmatched. Thanks for the videos.

wow jeff just stumbled across your channel and glad i did i love the short but very informative and VERY INTERESTING cant wait to see more

I saw that kernel build time and spewed my coffee. I am buying one of these as soon as I can afford it.

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

Certainly better than the 45 minutes of the Raspberry Pi 4!

This makes me happy to see adoption of arm for desktop and server. I'm running Fedora Asahi on my M1 and it's improving with each update but still has far to go .

Looking forward to seeing more of this dude! :D Keep at it

Thanks for reminding me to redownload my Matrix screensaver! That is a really cool system, I am really excited to see what is happening in the world of ARM right now. This is a really interesting and appealing system. Keep up the great work, Jeff!

I was so excited for this video!

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

Same here! I was thinking of waiting until I had more time to get Windows up and running, but I decided I'd post this video now, then an update on Windows and graphics card support later (maybe late May, after I get a lot more time to test!).

@julioprado7676

Жыл бұрын

@@JeffGeerling yeah Glad you did, just the hardware alone is fascinating

Jeff: This is what the next Mac Pro COULD be ME: was expecting to see a ARM hackintosh mate

Wow! I look forward to more on this ARM desktop (in a tower case…strong nostalgia for those). Your very NEXT episode is bound to be a real winner and a revealing watch! Above all, though…take good care of your health. Aloha!❤

Thank you! This totally made me rethink my future homelab VM server.

I look forward to hearing about your GPU experiences but it would also be interesting to probe your software rendering results. Perhaps trying both SwiftShader and Lavapipe and making sure they are configured to use 90+ cores and have SIMD enabled for their ARM compiles. There should be the grunt to push some pixels in a simple game like tuxkart without a separate GPU.

Just love your videos and your dedication to make things work. People like you are the reason why OpenSource will keep making sense.

This really is a desktop workstation... it's my favorite machine ever since my laptops burned out with heat... I love workstations for their great performance and small size... Hello in Brazil

That is awesome!! Great video, I would love this as my next desktop. I usually build my own x86 machines, and the cost will hurt but seems so worth it!

Jeff, have you tried to install a hypervisor (like Xen) and install windows as a guest? Windows installer might be freaking with some option missing in the BIOS (like TPM) and the hypervisor might give a chance to emulate that.

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

might try that later.

@tui3264

Жыл бұрын

or Proxmox :p

@trissylegs

Жыл бұрын

The errors are ACPI errors. Arm doesn't usually have ACPI so a VM might help there too

@lawrencedoliveiro9104

Жыл бұрын

Linux already includes hypervisor functionality (KVM). This integrates with QEMU, too.

I almost fell out of my chair, laughing when I heard the crack about Apple couldn’t justify charging an additional $700 for optional casters! Good one!

@LBCAndrew

Жыл бұрын

They also were charging $1,000 for a stand for their display that already cost $5,000

Damn Jeff amazing work on this video. Love seeing stuff like this. This should be a 10M view video.

Jeff is amazing, I don't know of many people who are determined to make something work the way he does. Part 2 is going to be very interesting!

The best machine to compile the entire Pi kernel

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

And enough room to run a whole cluster of Pis inside!

Finally! This is the sort of machine I’ve been hoping for. I hope the graphics card situation can be worked out and I hope a consumer grade variant can be produced at a lower cost. I really think ARM is the near future of computers and I think seeing a desktop form factor with reasonable expandability (and graphics compatibility) will be useful and important to convincing the consumer market to give it a try. Apple’s locked down hardware is off putting to a large demographic, but this just leaves software support as the remaining pain point, imo

I appreciate the use of Ubuntu even while wearing a Rocky Linux Early Support t-shirt.

Thanks for these videos Jeff, you bring the inner geek out of me and I love your raspberry pi videos, wanna get into developing a cluster one day

An interesting test I've always wanted to do on a high end arm, run qemu x86 Linux user mode emulation running windows binaries through wine... I think it would be interesting to see how well the multi core architecture of this runs older games, like just for science... Like how does the software renderer for ut2004 look when ran through x86 emulation on this monstrously fast (compared to what it was when the game was written) computer.

@prozacgod

Жыл бұрын

I just noticed I got quite a number of likes and ol' jeff himself gave it a seal of approval.... *crosses fingers* ... I hope to see this happen :D

If you have a volume licensing agreement, you can get the release ISOs for Windows 10/11 for arm64. I uh... have those if you want them. I've used them to install Windows 11 on my Galaxy Book Go. Fun thing is that I had to pull drivers from the built in recovery wim that was preinstalled on the machine, and copy them to the installer/boot wim in the ISO. Without adding the drivers my Galaxy Book Go doesn't have functional USB/Keyboard/Trackpad for installation. Even better is that Samsung doesn't provide any way to do an ACTUAL fresh install. Definitely not the experience you get with x86.

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

I have an ISO to test... we shall see!

@lawrencedoliveiro9104

Жыл бұрын

Volume licensing agreements also mean agreeing to audits, don’t they, to ensure you’re not misusing the licence.

@JosephHalder

Жыл бұрын

@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Am I misusing it by installing it on my Galaxy Book Go with the inherited “digital license”? They don’t provide the iso because it literally won’t work on most ARM devices without shoehorning drivers into the boot/install WIMs. If you install it but don’t activate it, my understanding is that you’re not actually violating any terms.

@lawrencedoliveiro9104

Жыл бұрын

@@JosephHalder Copying the software is still subject to copyright.

@JosephHalder

Жыл бұрын

@@lawrencedoliveiro9104 Is the license different for x64 and arm64… serious question. Because they allow you to copy the x64 iso. I think once UEFI implementation and ServerReady become normal on Arm, they’ll likely just provide it just like x64.

Very cool. love seeing this type of content!

Amazing progress in arm chips

So cool. Will be so nice if someone starts a hackintosh project for arm CPUs haha

This is sick! The 96 cores, BMC, very excited to see where ARM goes

@EdnovStormbrewer

Жыл бұрын

I'd use it for virtualization and multitasking such as video rendering while gaming, watching a movie, etc. The opportunity is endless. It's a shame there's just lack of resources for that ARM chip to make it run its full potential

Great video!

Amazing!! Thank you.

Yeah wtf is up with windows downloads being so slow!?

The prospect of running Linux on ARM-based devices beyond the scope of low-powered single board computers is truly fascinating. If you happen to have the time / energy & know someone at Lenovo that could send you a unit, it would be interesting to see if you could explore the possibility of installing Linux on the Lenovo IdeaPad 4G ARM64 Snapdragon 8c. I have personally attempted to live boot various Linux distributions, such as Ubuntu and Debian, on this device. However, I continually encounter an issue where the laptop simply reboots a few seconds after selecting the "try/install Ubuntu" option from the Live ARM64 Ubuntu USB grub menu. This Lenovo Snapdragon laptop battery life is insane on Windows 11, but the device lacks the memory (8GB only) to do much with it beyond browsing, Office 365, and youtube / Netflix streaming.

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

The lenovo should be pretty close performance-wise to the Windows Dev Kit 2023

@Spirrwell

Жыл бұрын

I've actually got a Samsung Galaxy Book Go 5G which runs the Snapdragon 8cx Gen2 platform. As I understand it, the Linux kernel simply doesn't have support for it. Linux kernel 6.3 adds support for Snapdragon 8 Gen 2, but that is different from 8cx or the compute platforms. I REALLY want to run Linux on it. But the kernel support is not there yet.

@AndrewHelgeCox

Жыл бұрын

​@@JeffGeerling All that generation of devices including the surface and the devkit are basically the same thing give or take some memory and storage choices.

@AndrewHelgeCox

Жыл бұрын

GPU drivers not there either.

Thanks for the video!!!

Its exactly what I have been looking for, but a bit expensive still. Nice. Thank you.

Apple could do this, but it would start at $10,000 because that is the Apple way.

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

And the casters will go from $699 to $1099 due to inflation.

@nadtz

Жыл бұрын

And wouldn't be nearly as expandable.

@foldionepapyrus3441

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Apple can't do this, even for an extra few zeros per machine. As for them to create something so user friendly and expandable would kill all the decision makers that have for years been sticking the pointy end of a sharp object into their userbase.

@tui3264

Жыл бұрын

I think Nvidia can make perfect ARM Desktop but I am not sure they will try

@lawrencedoliveiro9104

Жыл бұрын

Apple’s not going to do this. They are saying goodbye to upgradeability, because that’s the only way they can achieve performance. Which means goodbye to the workstation market.

This looks amazing and I wish I could get my hands on one. With Apple's increasingly terrible record when it comes to right to repair, I think tech-savvy people should make an consious effort to move away from them on to more open platforms ASAP. I would really love to see a machine like this running a RISC-V system in the near future.

Awesome video!!

Regardless of MacOS, I think that’s a very, very nice hardware solution. Pros don’t need the Apple UI to do great things.

Cool machine but I'm just not excited for arm cores at the desktop at this time. This is probably because I've only used raspberry pis or cloud based servers with arm, and I'm hard pressed to pay the prices Apple wants for a Mac mini when I already have a first gen Epyc 24 core server and a 3900X desktop. I'll eventually get around to it as I like efficiency but I really like the native backwards compatability of x86 too.

Will you be trying anything with RISC-V at all? It would be interesting to see how easy (or not) it would be to build something like this with RISC V.

@jnelson4765

Жыл бұрын

Right now there's not a lot of RISC-V 64 bit systems out there for end users - and none with the kind of PCIe connectivity datacenter / workstation systems require.

@cryptocsguy9282

Жыл бұрын

@@jnelson4765 Well someone with the technical know how could make such a system (the necessary extensions to RISC V architecture to make it possible) and could contact services like Europractice MOSIS(who offer middle man services where they help companies , tech faculties of universities and governments share the cost of semiconductor manufacturing by getting chips made from the same silicon wafers) to have semiconductor prototypes manufactured by foundries (TSMC, Intel , samsung ect) and have a complete computer system made by companies like compal , quanta computer and foxconn. With enough funding it's possible

I NEED THE VIDEO of this beast with a GPU playing stuff

Would love to see what Box86/64 could do on this machine.

@adriancoanda9227

11 ай бұрын

Its a translation layer real time compiling the best way is to run it directly from source through real-time compilation

They could make L1 level RAM integrated with CPU and L2 level RAM which would be on a slot so it would be upgradable. CPU would use primarily L1 RAM but could always access bigger but slower L2 RAM.

@Demopans5990

Жыл бұрын

Upgradability? No way!

@dlanm2u

Жыл бұрын

@@Demopans5990 idk why I read this and heard “with the frizz? no way!”

@Demopans5990

Жыл бұрын

@@dlanm2u My headcanon is that the Frizz is Arnold's time travelling granddaughter

It looks so amazing ❤

Love the video! love that machine!

It's a shame that getting GPUs working on ARM based systems seems to affect everything from SBCs to this machine. It's odd to me that so many cloud providers are switching ARM based systems, with at least some of them including GPUs I'd assume, yet it's still an issue. Comes across to me as another instance of them taking from the FOSS community but not wanting to give anything back. .

@yourt00bz

Жыл бұрын

It’s a dark ESG power grab. All started with UN MIT ONE LAPTOP PRR CHILD PROJECT this culminates in ARM launching fake pi 10 dollar SBc . This then inflated to 100 -200 dollar end user systems , ESG taxes on higher nd systems so the always on internet mainframe server model dubbed cloud servicing model with special license permit to use internet or host your own websites

My dedicated C++ laptop runs Linux (Ubuntu 22.04 LTS). Though it’s an x86-64 CPU (i7-12700H). My experience overall with Linux has been fun and a *lot* of learning about computing in general. As I’m searching for a junior backend dev job in Java it’s going to be useful I suspect.

Glad you back doing videos love to see if that could run VMware. Might be a great home lab server.

seems like it be a great docker system if maxed out.

Craziest thing is, this thing costs about as much as the Mac Pro

@adriancoanda9227

11 ай бұрын

The cost is not that important, but what it can do that cost , what instructions set is supported in cpu

Sadly gone are the days of Apple being interested in any architecture allowing end users to anything but buy a new device to increase their computing power

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

This kind of setup isn't unprecedented either; Apple used to have processor daughtercards in the G3/G4 era (and earlier), and upgrades were annoying but possible (Sonnet used to make a ton of them). I still see the odd G4 or G5 upgraded beyond its initial specs living out a longer life.

@pjohnson21211

Жыл бұрын

@@JeffGeerling true...but nothing since the advent of apple silicon.

@fookingsog

Жыл бұрын

​@@JeffGeerling Powerlogix was the other competitor to Sonnet. I had a Powerlogix card in a G4. Once. Upon. A. Time. 🤣😂😆

I love the look of that matt black board.

Nothing says it better that you have made it on KZread when companies starts sending you such expensive machines for review and tinkering :)

@JoeSpeed

Жыл бұрын

and I sent it to him to keep😁

I so hope we see what gaming looks like on this machine.

@JoeSpeed

Жыл бұрын

I hear you and am listening

@cryptocsguy9282

Жыл бұрын

@a4e69636b Awesome idea but nobody is gonna bother doing that :(

@a4e69636b

Жыл бұрын

​@@cryptocsguy9282 I am so hoping Jeff will be that exception.

Please take some look at pine64’s Ox64 the $8 SBC/microcontroller combo that runs linux.

Man your videos are a joy. I currently have a M1 Pro MacBook Pro, because to me it's the best laptop out there in terms of efficiency, but my desktop is a Ryzen 5900X and I am often looking at horrendous efficiency and in Germany electricity seems to be a luxury with prices of 32-45 Euro Cents per kilowatt-hour.

That computer looks awesome. If I had it I would try to run the Alpaca.cpp 65B parameter model.

Hope this can push chipmakers to focus more on efficiency. It will really be interesting if Apple make M-chips workstation. These could bring more impact than their corporate's own carbon neutral spending

Interesting stuff… Apple is not really doing themselves any favors by maintaining an isolationist position and excluding others from adding value to their platforms, or even for users to perform upgrades. Something really odd about this approach. I am an Apple user, but I find it really difficult to stomach this - they’re even doing everything that they can to stop right to repair as well, so it is just a little crazy… Anyway, that looks like a real cracker of a machine, and provided that it runs LinuxMint, which I’m sure it will, I would be more than happy to use it. Sadly out of my budget right now… Thanks for a great video and perhaps by the time you are ready for your next one, you will have heard from MS… 👍🙂

Thanks for the excellent video. The main issue is that Apple doesn't like to open up their architecture - they prefer a closed, tightly controlled, architecture.

I love this sort of stuff, I just wish I had the money to actually get it lol. Thank you for covering all of this stuff, especially for us folks who can't afford it. We love being able to see this technology and seeing all the cool stuff that's possible to achieve with it.

That's honestly a very cheap computer considering what those servers go for in rack mount.

@JeffGeerling

Жыл бұрын

Definitely not a bad deal for what you get. Might want to throw in a midrange graphics card to complete it, but I still haven't gotten around to testing any yet.

@cr1m203

9 ай бұрын

To be fair, take two large server rooms of the same size then fill one up with rack mounts then fill the other up with these boxes. How many servers per space you think you will get over the other? You’re paying for more servers per space. Rack mounting is not for everyone clearly.

Look pal, what we all want to know is CAN IT RUN CRYSIS??????

This is awesome!!

It is so reassuring to learn that other people have installation issues as epic as my own.

In two words ""F@#$ Apple".

@tiestofalljays

Жыл бұрын

**wipes ass with hundred dollar bills**

@tiestofalljays

Жыл бұрын

**wipes ass with hundred dollar bills**

@valenrn8657

Жыл бұрын

Neoverse-N1 is shit.

awsome video!

You can dump all the files that get installed up to the first reboot of an installation of windows onto a local partition from the VMDK, and then create the boot partition from a recovery image using netboot to get into it.

Refreshingly good video.

Can't wait to see a RISC-V desktop like this. Also would love to see you cover the Talos II from Raptor Engineering that uses IBM Power9 processors.

@pawe460

Жыл бұрын

Milk-V Pioneer targets kinda similar target audience with 64 RV cores with Vector extensions, can't wait to see how it behaves in real life

Great computer for launching benchmarks.

i will wait to a follow up video about windows ARM performance

Looks like perfect Hackintosh material

Apple ARM Mac's lack of connectivity is intentional. it is the Apple's way of exerting control over their lovely walled gardens.

Neoverse-N1 has quad instruction decoders. It doesn't have decoded instructions cache. Only 16-bytes per cycle fetch rate from L1 instruction cache. Apple M1 has octa instructions decoders. Zen 3 has quad instruction decoders (X86 instructions can do more than one function) and a Macro-Op cache feeds 8 Macro-Ops. The L1 instruction cache has 32 bytes per cycle.

"I even tried edge on my PC" made my day ... thank you man!

wow if this can become a server will be a beast

Do some emulation ox x86 f you can and see if you can get a decent steam setup just for kicks. Similar to what has already been done for the rock 5b

I have an ARM server as my home server with similar expansion. Mine doesn't have 96 cores though. Lol. I went with ARM because it's so much more efficient and takes less cooling. Making it quieter and use less power keeping my electricity bill down. I use it as my NAS, DNS, VPN, and Home automation server. Plus I can run docker containers for just about anything.

Do you get to keep it? Lol this is frankly an amazing form factor. Love it Jeff

"will it play doom?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 that made my night! also! this machine looks very promising, I 'd love to get one to mess with.

Just almost 5 years too late. The Cortex A76 (sister core to the Neoverse N1) was first used in phones back in 2018