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@latestgadgets6616

5 ай бұрын

"If the US goverment is serious, it can take those proposals straight to the UN security council. It can vote with a unanimous vote 15 to nothing of the UN security council for the recognition of a Palestinian state that includes Gaza and the West Bank, that includes the demilitaralization, demobilisation of Hamas, it can win the support of Arab countries that have called for exactly that. It would win the support of the world community. So, if the US follow that logic, this war could end immediately. The chapter seven of the UN charter gives the UN security council the power to implement actions to preserve the Global Peace. This is what the US should do." - Prof. Jeffrey Sachs.

@AiNews-dq6ib

5 ай бұрын

To be fair , you need to interview an IDF Officer who has actual information , all this soldier is talking about is what he experienced it does not go to show of the mentality or the specifics , i served in the Military (Not the IDF) and i was not aware of the actual targets we attacked using drones and artillery , i was only aware of specific targets we engaged So his claim about bombing buildings in order for ground troops to feel safe is at best unsubstantiated, as proof , even today , the Israelis can simply destroy ANY building that is still standing but they don't . this at least from an outside perspective give you an understanding that they are targeting something specifc

@BlackIce675

5 ай бұрын

And with all he said and is about to say.... how could he wonder why those " terrorists " want to kill him😮4:46

@Sylvia-zg6yh

5 ай бұрын

Owen, what drug are you on? You can't sit still for one second. Your twitching more than your taking a breath

@demejiuk5660

5 ай бұрын

Why do these types of videos always come with some Israeli advertising before or after the video. So bizarre. I've seen more Israeli adverts since October 7th than in I've ever seen in my life.

Independent journalists with journalistic integrity are the heroes of our time.

@fatimab5145

5 ай бұрын

True 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸✌️✌️✌️

@xyo1337

5 ай бұрын

Integrity? Lol.. c'mon. This is Owen Jones...

@alricmarchand2877

5 ай бұрын

Can you please elaborate? Or is it just an opinion? @@xyo1337

@shantishanti1949

5 ай бұрын

@@xyo1337integrity YES in abundance. You’re watching him so hopefully you will find your moral compass too. Miracles can happen.

@PerceivedREALITY999

5 ай бұрын

@@xyo1337 Wise people speak because they have something to say, you speak because you have to say something stupid.

I’m Palestinian and I respect Israelis that has come to this realisation 🙏👏

@Arabiangigachad

4 ай бұрын

يا زلمة دام انه قاعد بارضك ما بيستحق احترامك و

@RonYonassiProduction

4 ай бұрын

they just fit to your narrative.

@YGSTAN06

4 ай бұрын

​@@RonYonassiProductionalong with humanity... check yourself. Mayb a parasite took controle over you😂

@andrew_owens7680

3 ай бұрын

@@RonYonassiProduction It actually is interesting to hear someone from the occupying force say the same thing about war crimes as what we hear clear evidence of in the ICJ.

@winterismyfavseason

3 ай бұрын

@@RonYonassiProductionyou are a g3noclde supporter

"Our enemies are not the ones they tell us to fight but the millionares and politicians." -ex US soldier

@KyokaMaruyama

Ай бұрын

True

@EmbeddedHMITutorials-py4ww

Ай бұрын

Yes, totally agree with you

@stalked5627

Ай бұрын

We are not our government.

@shanouboubou

22 күн бұрын

And when will people finally realize that ? It was never a question of being Pro-Palestine or Pro-Israel, it's a question of humanism and stop the war instead of funding it. Why are humans lives not prioritized over everything else ?

@DarkResonance

11 күн бұрын

Nah, I don't feel sorry for these "soldiers" at all. Izrail or US or British. They're guilty just like the politicians.

i really cant express how brave it is to be an Israelite speaking out against the policy. these people are different and need to be protected

@martis5744

Күн бұрын

Well, israel is a democracia and has Freeman speech, he cancelado sya whatever he watts. Not the sale in Gaza

They came to my land They stole my home They killed my family When i fight back They call me terrorist

@fatimab5145

5 ай бұрын

True 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸✌️✌️✌️

@rehanaim8343

5 ай бұрын

Very true

@user-bq6zj2hh4c

5 ай бұрын

so True

@chadechevalric686

5 ай бұрын

Asking this for a friend. Do you have oil ?

@dhydhy852

5 ай бұрын

True. Free palestine from israhell and satanyahu

Imagine being kidnapped by the IDF at 7 years old, seeing your home destroyed , your family and friends killed. You might be holding a grudge 15 or so years later.

@fatoumfatoumeh

5 ай бұрын

Yep…Hamas are just angry orphans trying to break out of the concentration camp that they were forced into by the people who are occupying their land and stealing their resources. Fighting barefoot and armed with primitive weapons and their faith.

@joemaguire5575

5 ай бұрын

maybe 50 years

@isang4432

5 ай бұрын

That is the point he was making

@jasoncole8607

5 ай бұрын

Norman Finkelstein said it best they have the right to hate their guts

@Hakeem-20

5 ай бұрын

They didnt expect the retaliation

Thanks for being a human being, Ariel!

Thank you for inviting Ariel, and thank you Ariel, for giving your insights and experience. Absolutely, when we think of the others as humans the same as us, our family, friends, community, we can see what we are doing in a different light. I'm here after South Africa has taken Israel to the ICJ in the Hague, and before anything has been decided that I can see. The dehumanization of children, especially, is shocking and unacceptable. It is horrific to be sitting here at home watching the horrors of the current Gaza Strip situation. Thank you for speaking out. We need everyone we can who can speak out.

@andrew_owens7680

3 ай бұрын

It's extremely brave. I wonder what speaking out will cost him in his life.

I was in the Army, infantry in the US war against the people of Viet Nam. His stories resonate deeply with me. I’ve spoken with many vets, my age and younger, most would agree. War and violence are the tools of those in power. We, the ordinary people, on both sides suffer.

@lightdestiny7

4 ай бұрын

Exactly. The power of the Devil himself, in humans that takes up space playing the role of leaders who are blood thirsty and hungry for power for material gain etc.. etc. It's a deep rooted sickness and the whole world of innocence has to suffer due to these sociopathic mental cases. Sad to say.

@dekik.979

4 ай бұрын

It was always the rich vs the poor

@SriUtami-sg8hz

4 ай бұрын

I hope you don't have trauma in your life, sir.

@waleolabowale9825

4 ай бұрын

Exactly what happened in south africa..

@lh6046

4 ай бұрын

From this day forward, let the common people of America fight against their government. And parents should not send their sons to the army. Let the American military and police stand with the common people (black and white, of any religion) and not with the government, and everything will be fine.

Has HAMAS attacked any other nation other than Israel? The concept of resistance is strange to the Western World. They have historically labelled every resistance movement as terrorists; from Mau Mau in Kenya to uMkhonto We Sizwe and Nelson Mandela in South Africa. History will probably celebrate HAMAS as a liberation movement, just as has been the case with two I have mentioned above!!

@Gaby-gyab

4 ай бұрын

They aren't resistence movement. They are terrorists who want Israel for themselves

@BosOzy

3 ай бұрын

Pls don't forget big Che

@user-yx1vw4rt5y

3 ай бұрын

Black panthers as well

@enderdrow8844

3 ай бұрын

Don’t forget the Kurds

@Gaby-gyab

3 ай бұрын

@@enderdrow8844 Turkey kills Kurds . Someone is talking about? Turkey exterminated Kurds and Armenians. Someone is talking about?

Thank you, Ariel, for talking about what you could see as Commander of a unit and during these years. Please continue to speak up.

@jaw444

4 күн бұрын

Ariel, you make a difference. you will touch that place in people who like you, could feel that somethimg was seriously morally wrong but changing a person's whole life is very hard. until continuing to be used by greedy power hungry liars becomes clearly what is happening. thank you thank you thank you. In the IDF you were a leader, and you are still a leader

This testimony is very valid, genuine and strong enough to be heard at the ICJ.

@Gaby-gyab

4 ай бұрын

He must go and demand from Hamas to release the Hostages

@chocolatediary6336

4 ай бұрын

Agreed 100%

@anabey5783

2 ай бұрын

Icj should use Ariel testimony

@RahmoSheek-je4oz

Күн бұрын

True

More moderate Israelis need to be given a voice

@nisahmed9121

5 ай бұрын

KIsrael wants Egypt too! Watch Rabbi Uzi: Sinai ( Middle East Eye)!

@anasabu-rasheed544

5 ай бұрын

They are very rare to find one though

@sullyrulezz3191

5 ай бұрын

@@anasabu-rasheed544 True that though I got to admit that Haaretz has been very ballsy spreading the truth about Israel’s motives and their actions, especially on Oct 7 with the Hannibal Directive

@hellebachmann8260

5 ай бұрын

Look up “Breaking the silence”

@DMC1982

5 ай бұрын

@@anasabu-rasheed544 They are many, but they are been intimidated harassed and muted.

So nice to hear from a pro-peace Israeli.

@khadijahbegum3546

5 ай бұрын

Indeed because it's very rare

@essem123

5 ай бұрын

he still belongs in prison

@aragornthebrave

5 ай бұрын

It's not rare, their voices are just suppressed.

@seeibe

5 ай бұрын

@@essem123 Agreed. If 80 years later, we still lock up Germans for working as a guard in a concentration camp, 100% this dude deserves to be locked up for a long time. "I was just following orders" was not a defense then, nor is it now.

@undead9999

5 ай бұрын

​@@khadijahbegum3546 it's not that rare. They are just silenced, like in any regime

I salute this men for speaking up! Your ancestors must be so proud of you!!!

@ayaan8877

4 ай бұрын

They won’t be until he leave Palestine. He’s apart of the occupation as long as he continues to live on these innocent peoples land

@AA-ti9od

Ай бұрын

And who his ancestors might be?

@alvinbonny1562

Ай бұрын

​@@ayaan8877 His ancestors used to live there so

The desire for vengeance following Oct 7th, can we begin to imagine how much rage the Palestinians feel? They've suffered worse than Oct 7th for much longer and yet their rage or pain is never seen, heard or understood.

@fatimab5145

5 ай бұрын

🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸✌️✌️✌️

@inesnis50

5 ай бұрын

💯

@samara6041

5 ай бұрын

🎯🎯🎯

@khadijahbegum3546

5 ай бұрын

Bang on💯

@joemetz3769

5 ай бұрын

This comment alone shows how ignorant towards reality you are. They did NOT suffer massacre like October 7, Im sure you didnt even watch any deep footage of Massacres because you didnt want your sensitive soul to see how evil and barbaric your freedom fighters are.

"that level of dehumanization is required to keep this level of oppression." Perfectly said, Owen!!!!

@philipangelo595

5 ай бұрын

It sure was!!

@irfanidrees9158

5 ай бұрын

Very true

@onepath9363

5 ай бұрын

100%

@user-sv7mt7nv9t

5 ай бұрын

Absolutly

@RobinMask77

5 ай бұрын

Dehumanization happens to all soldiers in EVERY war. It's not a reason to not fight unless you are willing to just roll over and die to an enemy that has no problem dehumanizing you.

Every American should listen to this interview in high school before they become an adult and understand who our "allies" really are.

What a brave, honourable and respectful human being Ariel is. I feel for what he has experienced and seen, and can't imagine the sadness and inner struggle he must have to stand up for peace and speaking out.

Thank you Ariel, for your courage and candour in exposing Israeli military psyche and aggression

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

he failed with his narrative in this video that soldier said nothing wrong. We warned civilians we take several measures not to harm civilians. He was a soldier and today he’s paid to sell his soul, but even after he sold his soul He just proved that we are doing the right thing.🤝

@davidange4168

5 ай бұрын

@@Hebrew-Spirit copy and paste much dude or dudess. Btw bridge is still for sale

@mohamedkamel2694

5 ай бұрын

@@Hebrew-Spiritthe first 2min, he said:”we kidnapped teenagers” Sigh dude I didn’t even need to watch the whole thing to prove you wrong 😂. Anyway I continue watching ✌️.

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

@@mohamedkamel2694 again, I will see this loud and clear you have no right to demand the 22 Arab state and a second Palestinian state on my borders you don’t have the right to self-determination in my state want self-determination go to your state am I clear?

@mohamedkamel2694

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@Hebrew-Spiritagain what? This is the first time you mention this 😂. Are you alright? I hurshly disagree btw

He deserves to be listened to , Shame on the Israeli government past and present.

@Life_is_a_scam

5 ай бұрын

Shame on US , israel is only an another state of the US

@ColtDee

5 ай бұрын

Great Shame on the Israelis war government, the world watches inert into positive action, Turkey, Russia, China, Lebanon, Egypt, are only watching mostly, next year the pieces on the Chess board will be moving into place. 2024 is going to be a terrible year, hmm.

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

he failed with his narrative in this video that soldier said nothing wrong. We warned civilians we take several measures not to harm civilians. He was a soldier and today he’s paid to sell his soul, but even after he sold his soul He just proved that we are doing the right thing.🤝

@davidange4168

5 ай бұрын

@@Hebrew-Spirit what he said over and over again is that you try to look squeaky clean while you terrorise people. And if you believe that your country isn't then I have a bridge or 2 for sale going cheap

@MrsTeacherHighSchool

5 ай бұрын

​@@Hebrew-Spiritpaid troll...commenting on every comment

Hugely respect Ariel. It's not easy to overcome conditioning. I hope more Israelis find their humanity and oppose the brutality the state is perpetrating in their name.

@xyzabc9628

4 ай бұрын

Will they face the guillitine for war crimes, aparthied and genocide? Or they'll get away the way Afrikans did ?

@hexxan007

4 ай бұрын

@@user-uj5tb6pp9s Try to check out who helped to found Hamas... Hint: it wasn't Putin.

@DA-pw8wl

3 ай бұрын

​@@user-uj5tb6pp9sBut you have not targeted hamas. Your army has targeted civilians, mostly children.

@ntombozukomqikela2883

Ай бұрын

They need not to Kill innocent Civilians, why they are unable to defeat Hamas

@devctor

24 күн бұрын

@@user-uj5tb6pp9s it didn't start on October 7: Haifa massacre - March 6, 1937⁣⁣ Jerusalem massacre - Dec 6, 1937⁣⁣ Haifa massacre - March 27, 1938⁣⁣ Haifa massacre - July 6, 1938⁣⁣ Jerusalem massacre - July 13, 1938⁣⁣ Jerusalem massacre - July 15, 1938⁣⁣ Haifa massacre - July 25, 1938⁣⁣ Jerusalem massacre - July 26, 1938⁣⁣ Balad al-Sheikh massacre - June 12, 1939⁣⁣ Haifa massacre - June 19, 1939⁣⁣ Haifa massacre - June 20, 1947⁣⁣ Jaffa massacre - Dec 12, 1947⁣⁣ Abbasiya massacre - Dec 13, 1947⁣⁣ Al-Khasas massacre - Dec 18, 1947⁣⁣ Bab al-Amud massacre - Dec 29,⁣⁣ 1947⁣⁣ Jerusalem massacre - Dec 30,⁣⁣ 1947⁣⁣ Balad al-Sheikh massacre - Dec 31, 1947⁣⁣ Deir Yassin massacre - April 9, 1948⁣⁣ Abu Shusha village massacre - May 9, 1948⁣⁣ Tantura massacre - May 22, 1948⁣⁣ Lydda massacre - July 1948⁣⁣ Qibya massacre - Oct 14, 1953⁣⁣ Al-Dawayima massacre - Oct 29, 1948⁣⁣ Kafr Qasem massacre - Oct 29, 1956⁣⁣ Khan Yunis massacre - Nov 3, 1956⁣⁣ Rafah massacre - Nov 12, 1956⁣⁣ Abu Zaabal factory bombing - Feb 13, 1970⁣⁣ Sabra and Shatila massacre - Sept 16, 1982⁣⁣ Al-Aqsa Mosque massacre - Oct 8, 1990⁣⁣ lbrahimi Mosque massacre - Feb 25, 1994⁣⁣ Qana massacre - April 18, 1996⁣⁣ Jenin massacre - April 3, 2002⁣⁣ Qana massacre - July 30, 2006⁣⁣ Gaza Strip massacre - August 5, 2022⁣⁣ Jenin massacre - January 26, 2023⁣⁣ Jenin massacre - July 3, 2023 I AM ALLOWING EVERYONE TO COPY PASTE AND SPAM THIS COMMENT EVERYWHERE TO SPREAD AWARENESS

Brave man for speaking out against atrocities and terrorism

@lanagrossman489

2 ай бұрын

Brave ?? He will be brave to go to Gaza and help children of Arabs. He is getting paid !!!

@kierandoran1

2 ай бұрын

Have you an issue with Palestinian People fellow human beings you refer to as Arabs?

@roselee4445

Ай бұрын

​@@lanagrossman489paid by whom

Unfortunately this decent person probably represents a small minority in Israel. However, I think he underplays the extent of this genocide as the population is not just being bombed and physically attacked. It is also being starved, deprived of water and denied medicines and medical assistance. It’s happening because Israeli society has been conditioned over many decades to have no shame for its actions or compassion for its victims.

@annieluxemborg4115

5 ай бұрын

Underplayed is an understatement. He also provided a justification of forced dehumanization for what these criminals are doing. They know the Palestinians are humans, they just don't gaf.

@alisonjoubert9960

5 ай бұрын

​@@annieluxemborg4115He wasn't justifying, he was explaining.

@annieluxemborg4115

5 ай бұрын

@@alisonjoubert9960 it's not an explanation though, it's a thinly veiled justification

@sho-na

5 ай бұрын

@@alisonjoubert9960I kinda feel like he said what all pro Palestinians have known and been saying for many years. What I somehow find uncomfortable is that it becomes truth when an i$raeli voice says it or rather confirms it. There are so many layers to this interview. I feel off about it somehow.

@crackthefoundation_

5 ай бұрын

​I agree with you but if that helps one ignorant person click on this video and learn literally anything thats true.. Would help I hope. ❤

💙The whole world is seeing the TRUTH about the illegal occupation. There is no turning back. The world is now knowing what Palestinians have been going through for 75+ years. Blessings, Everyone...💜

@fatimab5145

5 ай бұрын

✌️✌️✌️🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

@Naika-ew6ev

5 ай бұрын

Свободу Палестине 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸🆘👏

@Victor_James68

5 ай бұрын

👍

@netaji-thebritishslayer

5 ай бұрын

Fr 75 yrs😂😂

@cslrc2011

5 ай бұрын

Both the Palestinian and Israeli must see each other’s humanity. You cannot not blame one over the other.

Thank you so much guys especially Ariel... It high time for the Israelis to allow the Palestinians to enjoy right to life, freedom of movement, access to pure drinking water, and access to quality education. I strongly believe if the Israelis allow the Palestinians to be...total peace will prevail

A courageous man you are. You represent and live hope...thanks Ariel!!

What he said about dehumanization is unfortunately a tactic used across the world. In Pakistan, I grew up hearing about the oppression of Kashmiri people by India. I felt so helpless and angry at the world for being silent spectators. As I grew up, I started became aware of similar horrific acts of violence my own army was committing in balochistan. I have to say, it’s very hard to see it all when you live inside a bubble and only listen to mainstream media. When the bubble finally breaks, it’s both heartbreaking and eye opening. It’s also very hard to engage reasonably with those who still live inside the bubble of lies.

@artimidz3451

4 ай бұрын

Stay true, brave individual! The whole Truth flatters no one, that's for sure..💓

@kibaorion4460

4 ай бұрын

indonesians to west papuans too and the whole country is still in the bubble! it is especially sad because many would insist that oppressed people including people who used to be colonized, could not be oppressors.

@AqsaFatimaAqsaFatima-ly4xd

4 ай бұрын

I too, am a Pakistani, and I agree with each and Every word that you wrote.

@Iamthelightindarkness1111

4 ай бұрын

Very well said. A bubble of lies.

@artimidz3451

4 ай бұрын

@@Iamthelightindarkness1111 his or her point was that Every ethnic group tells itself self serving lies. In fact national pride is normally founded upon self serving lies.

Thank you Owen for your integrity and bravery, this is how journalism should be.

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

he failed with his narrative in this video that soldier said nothing wrong. We warned civilians we take several measures not to harm civilians. He was a soldier and today he’s paid to sell his soul, but even after he sold his soul He just proved that we are doing the right thing.🤝

@MrsTeacherHighSchool

5 ай бұрын

Detaining n terrorizing 7 yr Olds puts u on the right side of history?

@mariondean8499

5 ай бұрын

@@Hebrew-SpiritI think he got a moral conscience, something you seem to be missing.

@ruthhorowitz7625

5 ай бұрын

​@@Hebrew-Spiritno, he is outright lying.

@Synoopy2

5 ай бұрын

@@Hebrew-Spirit Who is he being paid by and do you have personal knowledge on what he is saying or is it just your opinion that he is wrong. Have you served in the IDF? I am not being critical of you but asking for clarification.

Respect for the truth! Love for Palestine from India 🇮🇳

😢In south africa during apartheid we lived with fear that 30 years later is still inside me today when I watch Isreal and its aggression all the memories rush back 😢😢😢

I really appreciate Ariel's open and well voiced perspective. I don't trust the popular narrative that we're force-fed by most of the media and western governments. Hearing his explanations help me fit the jigsaw pieces together. Thank you Owen for giving him a safe place to talk openly.

5 ай бұрын

How did you comment 7 hours ago when the video was only uploaded 15 mins ago

@Sukunaglazer12

5 ай бұрын

​@I don't understand either🥴

@ameliamariakelly

5 ай бұрын

Patreon members get early access to Owens videos hours/a day before they are published to the public :)

@khadijahbegum3546

5 ай бұрын

​@ fr😂

@ColtDee

5 ай бұрын

Yes Ariel has my respect if he's genuine.

He’s telling the truth. He is placing himself in a dangerous position sharing his truth. Need many more like him.

@RonYonassiProduction

4 ай бұрын

he's telling the truth according to you,because it is fit to your narrative that you want to hear.

@khaledj.9985

4 ай бұрын

@@RonYonassiProduction He’s not telling the truth according to you, because it doesn’t fit your narrative that you want to hear.

@RonYonassiProduction

4 ай бұрын

yes exactly,but compare to you and those audience who listen to this guy that i respect his opinion, i am live in israel also and my friends also serving in the IDF,so i am probably knows better than you,oh and one more thing he is getting money for what he is doing,their is enough people that can sell their mother for money,and their is alot of perspectives in this conflict that he don't tell you in this interview@@khaledj.9985,he's getting the money from "breaking the silence",that getting fund by european regimes,just to let you know,you can check it out by yourself if you don't believe me.

@normanshneider8840

4 ай бұрын

Johanna Berndtein, are you Ariel's mother? Beside Ariel, did you have another abortion?

@markshandshake1

3 ай бұрын

i know x special forces people both israeli and canadian and the DONT talk about their missions period. so pray for this guy who may be in a precarious situation. perhaps a regular army guy would but NOT special forces!

Thank you for speaking out so people could understand what's going on.

Love from Cyprus 🇨🇾 the people chant and pray for Palestine ❤️ “Out of suffering have emerged the strongest souls; the most massive characters are seared with scars.” - Kahlil Gibran

Salute to this guy Ariel for his bravery for telling the truth to the whole world.

@eatlovesleep5990

5 ай бұрын

He's one of many. Follow Breaking the Silence which is a group made up ex-IDF members, lifting the lid on Israel's atrocities

@Irishtinian494

5 ай бұрын

Bravery!!! It's called guilt where I'm from.

Thank you for this interview. We need more people like him exposing the atrocities committed by the IDF. ❤ Thank you Ariel.

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

he failed with his narrative in this video that soldier said nothing wrong. We warned civilians we take several measures not to harm civilians. He was a soldier and today he’s paid to sell his soul, but even after he sold his soul He just proved that we are doing the right thing.🤝

@totallynotthefeds36

5 ай бұрын

​@@Hebrew-Spirit Does the IDF give you lunch breaks? you're everywhere desperately commenting 😂

@Foxtrot213

5 ай бұрын

​@totallynotthefeds36 do you believe everything as long as it's antisemitic?

@agluebottle

5 ай бұрын

@@Hebrew-Spirit You obviously didn't listen to the part where that same guy said warning people to leave was an obvious farce so people like you can crow about your false virtue. You don't listen to what's inconvenient to you because you lack the courage. I'm from the US South, so I know a racist coward when I spot one.

@notbornagainbornright5046

5 ай бұрын

Thank you ! Ariel

This type of journalism is the road to peace ☮️

@ArieGartenlaub

3 ай бұрын

I can understand your feeling but the opposite is true - There is nothing that keeps peace away more than that

@nabawi7

4 күн бұрын

I doubt it, this just lets us into the minds of those who are perpetrating the inhumane war crimes and allows us to better understand how the IOF conducts military operations. Those who are on the receiving end of the war crimes however will do everything they can to take arms against their occupiers because they have nothing else to live for but liberate their people and that will only strengthen Hamas further. Peace cannot be achieved without justice either militarily or diplomatically.

@1Dark.Paradise.Lost1

4 күн бұрын

​@@nabawi7 In other words, you cannot obtain peace with bombs

Thank you,Owen Jones, for making the effort to produce this interview.

Seeing videos today of a 8 year old crying over the bodies of his mum and 2 year old brother just broke me. Imagine any country being able to wipe out thousands of children and the west full support it

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

he failed with his narrative in this video that soldier said nothing wrong. We warned civilians we take several measures not to harm civilians. He was a soldier and today he’s paid to sell his soul, but even after he sold his soul He just proved that we are doing the right thing.🤝

@zanzi_1

5 ай бұрын

That video stopped me being a christian.

@MMMMMMMMMMMP

5 ай бұрын

Same thing happened to Israeli families on October 7.

@dorothyleeuw8774

5 ай бұрын

@@MMMMMMMMMMMP Was it shocking in Nat Turners Rebellion of 1831 when Black Slaves killed 65 White People in a Slave Revolt?

@mel24681

5 ай бұрын

Imagine more, a Absolutist Theocracy like Israel, doing that for 75 YEARS! And being actively sponsored mainly by supposedly- 'Democratic' USA.

Thank you for coming out and telling the truth. You are speaking voiceless people of Palestine.

bless you, son, it's refreshing to know there are humanitarian Israeli.

This was powerful. Thank you both for sharing this.

Thanks for giving a voice for the voiceless. You a standing for humanity, freedom and justice.

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

he failed with his narrative in this video that soldier said nothing wrong. We warned civilians we take several measures not to harm civilians. He was a soldier and today he’s paid to sell his soul, but even after he sold his soul He just proved that we are doing the right thing.🤝

@peterswires8439

5 ай бұрын

​@@Hebrew-Spirit Toll alert

@kanikani5941

5 ай бұрын

​@@Hebrew-Spirit Hi, you still writing the same comment over and over again.

Lot of respect for Ariel for speaking out the truth.

Impressive honesty in his eyes.

Owen, one of our true voices in independent media. One of phew who has not sold his soul to the devil. Thank you for this honest interview with Ariel. Thank you Arial also for speaking up against the conditioning of Israeli military IDF.

OMG 😳 I cannot believe this. Finally someone telling the truth of what goes on. My heart is with the Palestinian people and how they have been repressed for waaayyyy too long.

@shmuelg3873

5 ай бұрын

You think they are better? The difference is that they don't have soft hearted soldiers like our Ariel here.

@muslimahsharing4761

5 ай бұрын

​@@shmuelg3873 yes they are better 1000x better!

@MrSemoosam

5 ай бұрын

⁠@@shmuelg3873 Definitely hearts will dying and retuns black &full of anger when you live under this kind of massive occupation

@rafikabdulla126

5 ай бұрын

Omw it's nothing new tell us sumthing we don't know .

@zealousideal

5 ай бұрын

These IDF soldiers have been coming out and saying this for decades. Lol 😂 where have you been. They were doing this for 75 years. Nothing new. I’ve seen endless interviews like this for decades. This is why we are against Israel and pro Palestinian. Israel created this.

Blimey this is one perspective I didn't think we'd get. The way dehumanisation sets in and how it allows such actions is chilling. Brilliant interview thank you Owen.

@drbowater

5 ай бұрын

I wonder what happened to those kids he arrested. Are they still being held after all these years? It's so upsetting to think about.

@ferhanakhan5706

5 ай бұрын

U should have a lookbat breaking the silence on you tube. Ex Israeli soldiers speak out and struggle to live with what they were trained to do

@SuhailButt

5 ай бұрын

What do you think happened in WW2 Germany? Or Rwanda or Cambodia or North and South America or Australia or....this shouldn't be a shock or surprise or anything new. This is exactly how it happens.

@nisahmed9121

5 ай бұрын

KIsrael wants Egypt too! Watch Rabbi Uzi: Sinai ( Middle East Eye)!

@MustardSkaven

5 ай бұрын

Yes and if the roles were reversed it would be the exact same thing. I am tried of reading about right and wrong. Logic is the way forward, not accusations of which side started it or is more wrong than the other.@@SuhailButt

Toda raba, Ariel and Owen. A very impressive, frank and courageous testimony. It gives me hope!

Thank you Ariel Bernstein a brilliant and incredible insight that the world needs to see.

Shame on Israel

This Israeli soldier seems genuine, for that I thank you Sir, there not a lot of love in the world, hearing your message brings hope!

You were born for this moment, Owen Jones. Keep it up, and well done.

Thank you, Ariel for speaking up. It takes more courage to speak up than to fight.

Ariel, you have guts. Thank you for your valuable testimony.

I used to think Owen Jones was wrong on everything. Now I think he is right on everything. One of us has changed.

@meetings3071

5 ай бұрын

Congratulations, my friend! Keep your heart open and keep growing.

@rashaawale9999

5 ай бұрын

thank you for saying this, I always wonder if poeple can change and see through the media lies

@RedBrigades

5 ай бұрын

Owen jones has always been a lefty. He knows the score.

@Blissblizzard

5 ай бұрын

Dichotomous thinking is part of the problem Gullible, bubble switching.

@lolazal1

5 ай бұрын

He's right about this topic - and others - not on everything! And that's OK 👍

Balanced conversations are needed. But no one can call an oppressor a victim. No matter who you are. Palestinians should have equal rights in their land.

@patience123

5 ай бұрын

People on Gaza are oppressed by their own "Government". Hamas made their life hell and gives Israel no option but to defend themselves.

@Saby217

5 ай бұрын

After hearing this insightful interview, I'm thinking why can't Arabs and Israelis live as one country with equal rights under a new name for the country. 💡 Seems Israel has occupiers are in constant fear of the oppressed retaliating which makes it difficult for a 2 state solution.

@littlestar1519

4 ай бұрын

​@@Saby217you mean Palestinians and Israelis.Israel will never agree for Palestinians to have equal rights under a one state solution because their intentions is stealing the whole land from day one! Israel's fear is not a justification for their brutal oppression.

@user-up7kc2nw5q

4 ай бұрын

​@@Saby217потому что израил хочет полного господства над Палестиной и Палестину без палестинцев. Посмотрите как израил ущемляет права палестинцев, посмотрите коментарии большинства сионистов и Вы заметите явную агрессивность , злобность и жестокость в их комментариях, они называют палестинцев как ,,животных ".Это много о чем говорит.

@freedomunltd

4 ай бұрын

@@Saby217Israel wants it all and not just Gaza or the West Bank

I find a soldier being unaware of the international laws of war to be in very troubling, no wonder atrocities are committed, both ordered and individually.

@andrehunter1295

20 күн бұрын

It's not easy or cheap to create any army with just law students, have you been studying international law's yourself!? It's a complicated things, and specially when you see the responsible politicians in Washington support Israel with everything. Show that we don't even have international law's anymore when the US don't respect international law's themselves 😢 They keep saying that it's New rules based order now, but nobody else knows what rules based order is except for Israel and US. New rules based order are something that they saying every time they don't following international law's, meaning every day now... Insanity put into the system 😢

It takes a lot of courage to speak out against the policies of your own military/country due to the massive blowback and death threats. This IDF soldier is a man of courage.

I am ugly crying as Ariel is in detail describing the IDF approach of dehumanizing and justifying the atrocities before us. Thank you for acknowledging that in order for true peace and security for Israel is to end this draconian occupation.

@tv503com

5 ай бұрын

Israel occup[ation of Judea and Israel lamd ? Arabs came 7 century in that land :-)

@lameezdavids7130

5 ай бұрын

​@@tv503comFREE PALESTINE FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA PALESTINE WILL BE FREE

@tv503com

5 ай бұрын

@@lameezdavids7130 Palestina Will Be Free From Hamas = KGB FSB Putin minions :-)

@georgiegardner6794

4 ай бұрын

First time hearing the expression 'ugly crying'. Found it in the Slang Dictionary. 😒 I've only ever heard it as 'bawling' or maybe 'wailing'. 😭😭😭

@lightdestiny7

4 ай бұрын

​@@tv503comoh, and Canaanites, land of Canaan, who do you think those people were, who lived in that land, region blah, blah, blah???

Very open and balanced interview well done to this Israeli young man speaking his truth

@bakarangerpinku

5 ай бұрын

The truth is not subjective. 😐🙄

@hexxan007

4 ай бұрын

@@YourFavoriteSociologist-pw3cm Entering the quantum world as we speak, it is about time to realise that we, humans, CREATE "the truth"...

Is SADISM if they society want to see the dehumanising of others to feel satisfied, victorious and dominant.

Great interview. Even the telling of the 2 children at the fence speaks volumes of what is happening in a greater context.

@Net_Willis

Ай бұрын

It is totally posible they were sent by someone to check IDF''s response, as he said.

Even if you didn't admit it, it's crystal clear that the oppression, double standard of these innocent civilians victims in palestine are facing is beyond imagination.

@user-ol3rj7gs5u

4 ай бұрын

Only the children r innocent not the Palestinians .The amount of evidence coming out proves my statement

I am an american who's heart breaks in hearing this. I've been crying this entire video. We all want our families, our children, to be able to live with hopes and peace. I really think Governments get in the way of this. I love all people and always will.

@ayaan8877

4 ай бұрын

That all sounds beautiful and all but this world is a horrid place filled with injustices and you have to choose a side . That side should always be the morally just side. The real victims and oppressed people are minorities and people of colour. In this case it’s the middle eastern people and black people all over the world 😢

@pauljames7936

4 ай бұрын

Anarchism... everything done by consensus... no rulers, no oligarchy...

@ignatiusjackson235

3 ай бұрын

​@@ayaan8877 Not always. It's about studying each specific situation in order to determine who is doing the injustice. Otherwise, you end up with the Israeli population, living an hour away from Palestinians and never having actually met one. Lies are bred from that. Skin color is practically irrelevant here. The issues are both cultural and industrial.

@Lololololhhhh

3 ай бұрын

Thank you greetings from Somalia 🇸🇴 we too are victims of American aggressions they will be a day we all stand for infront our creator for the deeds we have done .

@haider5044

2 ай бұрын

Humanism is one of the saving graces of the West. I just don't know how can we can justify, refuse to condemn and, worse, directly support these atrocities.

Ariel Bernstein's courage humbles me. Infinite admiration. A philosopher of our times. From the heart.

They were all very long questions. And thank you Ariel, you are courageous as hell.

Thank you so much, Owen, for providing a platform for this brave young man to speak out. This is an insightful, brilliant interview.

@mmm-mq3zr

5 ай бұрын

You will be labeled an antii-semiite for pointing that out...

@knossos574

5 ай бұрын

He sort of reminds me of Amos from The Expanse, always ready to crack skulls but he'll protect his own. The people of Gaza need protection.

@katpuss6564

5 ай бұрын

I didn't hear anywhere that he was sorry for what he had done.... Only excuses that his superiors made him do it....

@couldbe8348

5 ай бұрын

Not sure what he added to the grand conversation.

@athlonrulez

5 ай бұрын

@@katpuss6564 agreed, then he talked about how Hamas not wanting peace while they bombed the civilian populations every now and then since 1948. What a joke. He's nowhere near a hero as someone perceived him.

In the 1970s Israeli PM secretly met Mustafa Barzani and stated its to support for PDK (Patri Dimukrati Kurdstan). The Israelis trained some PDK members on how to place explosives on vehicles, place mines, conduct assassination attacks...etc. This is all documented by either side, My father had a book about this with evidence and pictures of many of the members being literally introduced to and trained on what's considered today as TERRORISIM because the Israelis wanted to spread as much as destabilisation in Iraq as possible.

@GhizAt

5 ай бұрын

And not just in Iraq, they are doing the same in Syria, in Africa...

@alyahamzah1952

5 ай бұрын

Why does this makes so much sense and im not surprised at all? Thanks for sharing.

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

he failed with his narrative in this video that soldier said nothing wrong. We warned civilians we take several measures not to harm civilians. He was a soldier and today he’s paid to sell his soul, but even after he sold his soul He just proved that we are doing the right thing.🤝

@Tabish29

5 ай бұрын

​@Hebrew-Spirit youre on every thread just disputing every single view that you don't want to believe while it is actually happening. You my friend are the ultimate Manchurian candidate.

@mhhd77

5 ай бұрын

​@GhizAt After 1991, they started to station their intelligence officers, agents, and (the whole works) in Erbil and Iraq but expanded their intelligence gathering capabilities, cyber espionage...etc and spies, opperative...etc more broadly after the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Their stations in Kurdistan are used to eavesdrop, gather huge amounts of data, and even coordinate acts of sabotage and operational activities specifically against Iran and Iraq of course. Its not secret, my people know where they are, all over. Of course not to mention all the other American military stations And the huge American Embassy comex in the "Green Zone" of Baghdad which is an absolute abomination and threat for everything that means lasting stability and security for our people in the region. When I was a kid, I saw someone in black-and-white say the following: *-Every status changes -The world never stays in the same state -It changes from one state to another state -That is the only continum of status*

Thank you Ariel, great testimony from your personal experiences. Let’s hope the conflict ends soon for everyone

I wish there were more people like Ariel in Israel, especially in leadership positions. One can only hope for peace and humanisation for all, despite the rather discouraging reality. Thanks to you both for this enlightening interview. Best wishes from Brazil.

I admire the guts on the part of this Israeli to speak the truth and to examine what is right and wrong for all parties involved.

@paddyholly2184

5 ай бұрын

I've been wondering about the level of PTSD and suicide in the IDF. Of Course, not ALL the soldiers are racist thugs anymore than ALL the Palestinians in Gaza are Hamas Terrorists. One thing for certain is Both populations are traumatized - probably for life. Neither Side will Ever Feel Safe, again. 😢😢😢

@carahiggs7157

5 ай бұрын

Israel is committing genocide you 🤡there are not two sides here Israel has been military occupying and massacring the defenceless Palestinians for seventy years.

@luciahelenaoliveira7997

5 ай бұрын

​@@paddyholly2184A maioria dos soldados israelenses estão dominados pelo Ódio , com muita cede de matar, a adrenalina deles estão a mil, não sei se eles andam drogados.

@alisikander

5 ай бұрын

@@paddyholly2184 many idf soldiers spoken up via Breaking the Silence. theyre more than a thousand now.

@alisikander

5 ай бұрын

many idf soldiers spoken up via Breaking the Silence. theyre more than a thousand now.

Appreciate that still have Israeli who have heart and humanity left

@annieluxemborg4115

5 ай бұрын

The bar is low. This guy still deserves jail time.

@j.daniels1548

5 ай бұрын

He’s still a war criminal at the end of the day, but I also appreciate his honesty about his crimes against humanity

@SmileSmile-sf4sj

5 ай бұрын

He deserves forgiveness. Everyone makes mistakes

@lovesilk1

5 ай бұрын

@@SmileSmile-sf4sj Labeling a letter with the wrong address is a mistake. Slaughtering innocent people is a crime.

@NoName-cu4gr

5 ай бұрын

@@SmileSmile-sf4sj he deserves to stand trial for war crimes.

Those intimidation tactics are still going on, it is a nightmare for those people living under those conditions.

Thank you for sharing this! You are brave, and seems that you have wisdom.

Thank you for having Ariel on your channel Owen. How courageous of Ariel.... Respect to you both✊🏽✌🏽🇵🇸

@ManwarAlam-nz7ld

5 ай бұрын

Owen you are doing what a true journalist is supposed to do. You have presented a true solder. Thank you.

Thank you Ariel for some respect and integrity in your response to what is happening in Gaza. Wish more people had your view

Incredible interview to bear witness to and has certainly has given me food for thought. Thank you Ariel 🙏🕊️

Respect to Ariel for speaking like this and of course to Owen for his continued work, I've been watching a lot of your youtubes lately, well done.

“Everyone is a terrorist…” this is what the soldiers are taught, and that explains the loss of innocents we see today

@sorayajacobs8467

5 ай бұрын

Sadly true 😢

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

he failed with his narrative in this video that soldier said nothing wrong. We warned civilians we take several measures not to harm civilians. He was a soldier and today he’s paid to sell his soul, but even after he sold his soul He just proved that we are doing the right thing.🤝

@thetruth476

5 ай бұрын

@@Hebrew-Spirit the right thing to do is that when I have an issue with you I don’t take out on your family members.

@Ass_of_Amalek

5 ай бұрын

not really. what we see today is at minimum a campaign to depopulate gaza. and this guy full on denied that there is any targeting of civilians at all, he claimed that it's all collateral damage. he's actually quite remarkably ignorant of the situation in gaza, it seems like he's still in a very israeli information bubble.

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

@@thetruth476 again, I will see this loud and clear you have no right to demand the 22 Arab state and a second Palestinian state on my borders you don’t have the right to self-determination in my state want self-determination go to your state am I clear?

I'm thankful for Mr Ariel for shedding some light on a matter that has been severely neglected and, more often than not, deliberately overlooked. I'm a firm believer that people can become friends with whoever as long as they're not facing the barrel of a weapon when conversing and Mr Ariel solidified my stance on his matter. I pray that, once their pains have healed, made peace with their traumas and properly bid their lost ones farewell, the Palestinians will have their chance for a proper, fruitful and meaningful life that they undeniably deserve.

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

he failed with his narrative in this video that soldier said nothing wrong. We warned civilians we take several measures not to harm civilians. He was a soldier and today he’s paid to sell his soul, but even after he sold his soul He just proved that we are doing the right thing.🤝

@stuartfishman1044

5 ай бұрын

​@@Hebrew-SpiritI saw your soul on a poster. Apparently, it's missing. You should probably form a posse and search for it. Unless that would be too painful for you, like searching for your conscience with a microscope.

very moving and informative, thank you

Thank you both for this conversation. Ariel, especially thank you. I can't imagine the courage it takes to speak out against a system that is so supported politically, financially and militarily. You are a light in this incredibly dark and bleak period and offer hope to anyone who sees the humanity of both peoples and the need for peace, legitimacy, autonomy and security for both.

Thank you for your high journalistic integrity owen and thank you so much ariel for your bravery

Thank you all for genuine conversation. We need to have more of this kind

Thank you for the interview

Thank you Ariel. You are a truth-teller and a hero. Blessings.

When Adriel described how dehumanization becomes convenient when doing wrong it clicked in my brain. Its not just in Gaza & Israel but a global issue.

@MrBezigebij

5 ай бұрын

That you would even think that dehumanization would be unique to this conflict or one side of this conflict and not an extremely common and historically pervasive part of so many wars is shocking to me. But maybe you are young and only just now learning about history.

@africanqueenmo

5 ай бұрын

@@MrBezigebij who do you think you are?

@pechoja

5 ай бұрын

America. Police have been trained by Israeli soldiers for more than 12 years. IN articles plentiful. Why? Who decided Americans to be addressed as occupied treated? Gradual infiltration.

@Tina-ik6dq

4 ай бұрын

exactly...

@pulla2268

4 ай бұрын

He is 14. And he discovered something new to him. Be proud ​@@MrBezigebij

Israel claim to be being kind by offering warning of a strike, but really "they're legitimising a battle ground". I pray more people start to see the light. Thank you Ariel for being a light.

@user-gl2cd5fx1s

4 ай бұрын

Sim! Fugir para onde!?.

@camilabenitez1696

4 ай бұрын

That's because it's an international law. It's required. At least Israel respects it, that's more than you can say about Hamas and all of their war crimes.

@muhammadalijalaluddinrazal3753

4 ай бұрын

@@camilabenitez1696 imagine someone ask u to get out of your house because they want to burn it down. of course u will let em. but not for palestinian they r stubborn n brave thats what u need as ppl who is oppresed. n seems like u forget what they do in west bank. invading civilian , kidnapping children. n here u wanna compare with hamas? lol idf winning 100 - 0 in term of war crimes. international law doesnt apply on israel anyway.

@PsychedSushi43

4 ай бұрын

​@@camilabenitez1696 you confuse hamas with israel. They are the ones doin war crimes.

@Burair101

4 ай бұрын

​@@camilabenitez1696we're not saying Hamas is right or it's better than the IDF. I'm personally that all Israel does is wrong on so many levels. From bringing Europeans to occupy someone else's home to the indifferent killing of babies in Gaza.

Thank you Owen for all you do and thank you Ariel for speaking up and being a decent and humanitarian human being 🇵🇸🇬🇧

A deep level of realisation and humanity is rewuired to speak against your own people.

Nothing but respect for that man. Can't be easy to speak out.

@jello4318

5 ай бұрын

I've heard plenty of Israelis speaking out, from top policy makers down but no Palestinians speaking out about the horror of Hamas. Free speech is still much more available in a democracy.

@rodrickdemunnik4582

5 ай бұрын

Israel is a democracy with free speech, so it is not that hard.

@athlonrulez

5 ай бұрын

@@rodrickdemunnik4582 when you have different set of rules for a specific race that is not democracy, That is apartheid but nice try Adolf

@ayeshaahmar6351

5 ай бұрын

​@@jello4318well because the only horrors Palestinians have suffered and r suffering r at the hands of israhel....on one hand if hamas govt didn't do wonders for the people of gaza(mostly couldn't because of israel sabotaging every major developement project in gaza) then they also didn't exacerbated their sufferings......u will find a very few Palestinians talking bad about hamas.....and they r not controlled by khamas as israhel wants to tell all the world.....never were.

@selimsenhadri6408

5 ай бұрын

​@@jello4318 yes, when democracy will be released in the biggest open prison under a criminal apartheid Israeli state.

It must be difficult to see that the side you are fighting for is wrong. This guy is brave.

@JJJ-hl2ud

5 ай бұрын

Agree he is very brave.

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

he failed with his narrative in this video that soldier said nothing wrong. We warned civilians we take several measures not to harm civilians. He was a soldier and today he’s paid to sell his soul, but even after he sold his soul He just proved that we are doing the right thing.🤝

@davidange4168

5 ай бұрын

@@Hebrew-Spirit do they pay you by the comment or by the hour and how do we apply

@ZayShinning

5 ай бұрын

@@Hebrew-Spirit And you guys make tik tok for the world to know how great you are.., such an honorable endavour😅

@Hebrew-Spirit

5 ай бұрын

@@ZayShinning again, I will see this loud and clear you have no right to demand the 22 Arab state and a second Palestinian state on my borders you don’t have the right to self-determination in my state want self-determination go to your state am I clear?

Thank you for being brave enough and daring to be voice of the voiceless.

Life is short for everyone we all need to love and respect eachother ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Thanks Owen love Colin

Dam this guy opened up, I have to respect this brother

@everythinggaming7938

5 ай бұрын

he killed many innocent people and you respect him?

@farleymarly2575

5 ай бұрын

@@everythinggaming7938 hey the guy woke up if he can save more lives than he's killed gotta respect that.

@2-da3333

5 ай бұрын

None of the innocent killed related to him. He will have different opinion if some were.

Very moving interview Owen. Thank you so much for sharing. I went on to watch other videos of Ariel Bernstein which includes one video in which he pays tribute to a Palestinian friend ( Khalil abu Yahia) that he knew in Gaza. Khalil abu Yahia was killed, alongside his wife and two daughters, in an airstrike whilst sheltering from the bombing in October. He was only 28 years old. They never met each other (only via Zoom). The tragedy was that they had hoped to have a coffee together one day, and now they never will. They saw the humanity in each other and spoke of co-existence.

@aggelikispiliotopoulos7179

5 ай бұрын

I'm crying 😢😢😢😢...

@aggelikispiliotopoulos7179

5 ай бұрын

Mr. Ariel you are a well-balanced man and I'm proud to be listening to you!

@Trepines

5 ай бұрын

@@aggelikispiliotopoulos7179 You're a beautiful and caring person 😊

@user-rd9ks8dw8c

5 ай бұрын

Beautiful ❤️ we all hope for the best outcome in that region of the world.

@Trepines

5 ай бұрын

@@user-rd9ks8dw8c Truly the best outcome is peace and harmony. There are deep wounds being inflicted that will take a long time to heal (if at all) if peace comes.

Well done Owen, great journalism again. Keep it up chief 👍