In Gaza now, it’s worse than ethnic cleansing | Centre Stage

In this episode of Centre Stage, our guest is Ilan Pappé. He’s an Israeli historian and professor at the University of Exeter. Pappé is known for his outspoken views on the Israeli-Palestinian question - drawing both praise and criticism. He’s the author of several books including "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine", in which he challenges the traditional Israeli narrative over the establishment of Israel in 1948.
In today’s episode, Pappé discusses the dangers of the Zionist ideology and its impact on Israel and Palestine, the historical context of October 7, and his vision for a one-state solution.
Dareen Abughaida is a principal presenter at Al Jazeera English.
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  • @freepalestine7687
    @freepalestine76872 ай бұрын

    Listening to this man helps my mental health.

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    Ilan Pappé 👍 is a solid decent person. ❤️ 🇵🇸 🤍 🇵🇸 🖤 🇵🇸 💚

  • @user-fg4vk4tn7d

    @user-fg4vk4tn7d

    2 ай бұрын

    Totally agree

  • @antonelaradan9380

    @antonelaradan9380

    2 ай бұрын

    Mine tooo😊

  • @captainyak3948

    @captainyak3948

    2 ай бұрын

    Mine too. The truth always heals...

  • @Hannestv4607

    @Hannestv4607

    2 ай бұрын

    Son of God does not mean that God has a child in Christianity! *what a mistake in the Qur'an!* Son of God are 2 titles one referring to the Word of God = God himself and one referring to creation (humans, angels, demons)

  • @MrMdemon
    @MrMdemon2 ай бұрын

    Voices like Illan Pappe, Norman Finkelstein, and Miko Paled give me hope as a Palestinian.

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    Me too.

  • @Annissa-dv6kc

    @Annissa-dv6kc

    2 ай бұрын

    Me too.🙏🍈🕊️🌿

  • @kevintownsend3840

    @kevintownsend3840

    2 ай бұрын

    Beautiful post

  • @matnor1786

    @matnor1786

    2 ай бұрын

    Agreed! Let's not forget Max Blumenthal, Katie Halper, Gabor Mate and family, Phil Weiss, Rabbi Shapiro, Sam Seder, the Due Dissidence guys and Gideon Levy. I'm probably forgetting other names.

  • @zetto814

    @zetto814

    2 ай бұрын

    Avi Shlaim Daniel Levy Lara Friedman

  • @CookaSoupNieceEH
    @CookaSoupNieceEH2 ай бұрын

    Professor Pappe is a gift to humanity.

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    I agree. 👍

  • @user-qm8cm1dn2v

    @user-qm8cm1dn2v

    2 ай бұрын

    ... Only He is humanity’s hope "The Creator Alone Is Humanity’s Hope I want to fly back to Heaven, but have not wings I want to leave this world, but know not the Way I have lived both worldly glory and humiliation I have tasted both the bitter and sweet of the human realm When will the Creator come? Only He is humanity’s hope Autumn of 2013" Master Li Hongzhi (Hong Yin VI, from Falun Dafa teachings)

  • @user-qm8cm1dn2v

    @user-qm8cm1dn2v

    2 ай бұрын

    ... The Creator has come "A Song for You I have a sacred song for you I once wondered: Who created Heaven, earth, and all things? Why does life seem such a trying and aimless affair? Who is it that I am? Who really am I? We try so hard, but are left perplexed over lifetimes Now Dafa [Great Law] has unlocked my wisdom I now understand life, and fret not over each trifle The Creator has come He calls on me to rouse lost lambs before the disaster This is the song you’ve awaited A melody from Heaven above October 2013" Master Li Hongzhi (Hong Yin VI, from Falun Dafa teachings)

  • @nabilabou9078

    @nabilabou9078

    2 ай бұрын

    Ccan't agree more

  • @nacidoenel64

    @nacidoenel64

    Ай бұрын

    i"m from israel. he opened my eyes. thank you ilan.

  • @SarahYounes-il9gk
    @SarahYounes-il9gk2 ай бұрын

    Huge respect to Ilan Pappe!! A great historian!!

  • @shamim621
    @shamim6212 ай бұрын

    Thank you Prof Pape for standing on the side of truth and Humanity.

  • @stewartlowe6703
    @stewartlowe67032 ай бұрын

    Pappe is a great historian. He has deprogrammed himself unlike the Zionist. Fantastic interview.

  • @paulgibby6932

    @paulgibby6932

    2 ай бұрын

    We need de-programming in the US also. It's in process, but not organized. We have historians like the late Howard Zinn, Daniel Immerwahr ("How to Hide an Empire") but there is an active resistance (of course) to revisionist history re: treatment of indigenous people and the racism that goes back to slavery and to the present. It seems many (all?) nations develop narratives and educational systems to keep their myths alive. More power to Pappe

  • @aviava7097

    @aviava7097

    2 ай бұрын

    It's really hard to do it as Israeli Zionist without any incentives (from my own experience :) Might be more beneficial to 'deprogram' westerns so they will change the current conditions, which will give Israelis a incentive to change.

  • @jenkins7459

    @jenkins7459

    2 ай бұрын

    It's merely reprogramming. He's a propagandist not a historian.

  • @mariaejose4437

    @mariaejose4437

    2 ай бұрын

    @@jenkins7459 I think you never read one of his books. His assertions are the result of logical deduction from facts and sustained answers to questions raised from proven sequences of facts. A propagandist just uses slogans and even false facts to force others to accept their ideology. I don't think Ilan Pappé is a propagandist at all. He is a scholar historian who cares about facts, not about ideology. He knows that ideologies themselves are just facts shaped by history and you need to be aware about that or you will be fooled by them.

  • 2 ай бұрын

    Zionist? So does Israel not have the right to exist? Is that how Europe responds to their uninvited immigrants, by attacking them as occupiers? Jews have been in Israel for over one hundred years. 80 percent of Jews in Israel were driven there from neighboring countries in the Middle East. Palestinians have to start taking some of the blame and responsibility for their predicament. Most Jews would love a peaceful and prosperous Palestine.

  • @aciduzzo
    @aciduzzo2 ай бұрын

    Ilan Pappe - what a fantastic scholar, very good interview. With people like him we can create a better society, free from zionism.

  • @MatthewH-hp8bp
    @MatthewH-hp8bp2 ай бұрын

    This man is a living treasure - one of the greatest human beings of our age, in my opinion. His is a pure and courageous voice of reason, a shining light in the darkness. God bless Ilan Pappe.

  • @seanstevens2527

    @seanstevens2527

    2 ай бұрын

    !!!

  • @lunadyana3330

    @lunadyana3330

    2 ай бұрын

    I don't think he's ever been platformed on an american news program. How different policy could be, were they to have allowed regular appearances by this notable scholar who offers insights from so many perspectives and contexts in the package of one man.

  • @joelleschachter2867

    @joelleschachter2867

    2 ай бұрын

    He is also a great historian they are few videos on KZread as an historian worth listening

  • @NoHandles333
    @NoHandles3332 ай бұрын

    Really Great Interview format. Al Jazeera is really pushing out great journalism.

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    For sure. 💯 Al Jazeera is doing excellent journalism. 💚 🇵🇸 🍉 🇵🇸 🤍 🇵🇸 🖤 🇵🇸 ❤️ 🇵🇸 🕊️

  • @arunkhanna2496

    @arunkhanna2496

    2 ай бұрын

    They are a model for the world at this point. Western interviewers only know how to interrupt and push their own narrative.

  • @darinjohnson1725

    @darinjohnson1725

    Ай бұрын

    Spreading the hate of Islam

  • @pest_4109
    @pest_41092 ай бұрын

    He knows Israeli society better than most, if he's optimistic, I'm optimistic. Also, these interviews are so good, well done.

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    Excellent 👌 interview.

  • @constantinogabrie7041
    @constantinogabrie70412 ай бұрын

    Thank you for speaking up and sharing the truth.

  • @khalidalkindy
    @khalidalkindy2 ай бұрын

    Thank you IIan for being on side of justice, and being active.

  • @roddyrod583
    @roddyrod5832 ай бұрын

    Protect this man! What a wonderful and educated human being. Great interview.

  • @ahmedjabri3199
    @ahmedjabri31992 ай бұрын

    This man is an eye openner to the world

  • @Caro-ys4kk
    @Caro-ys4kk2 ай бұрын

    Mr. Pappé is such a kind soul. An honest historian.

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely. 👍

  • @IdaB2379
    @IdaB23792 ай бұрын

    I visited Israel and Palestine 10 years ago and seeing the apartheid systems up close was an eye opener. It’s so much worse seeing it in real life, but what also amazed me was the warmth kindness and generosity of the Palestinian people. I really hope that it’s true that we are seeing the beginning of the end of Palestinian suffering.

  • @michellenorris8471

    @michellenorris8471

    2 ай бұрын

    Did you get access to Gaza, if so, perhaps you could describe it a bit more?

  • @user-qc1lu1wi9b

    @user-qc1lu1wi9b

    2 ай бұрын

    @michellenorris8471 most tourists are not allowed to go to gaza... only Westbank because of Bethlehem

  • @IdaB2379

    @IdaB2379

    2 ай бұрын

    @@michellenorris8471 I did not, as Gaza has been an open air prison for a very long time.

  • @mariannehancock8282

    @mariannehancock8282

    2 ай бұрын

    I hope so too, but we must fear that this genocide will be so successful that there will be none left who are not in exile. Why do we allow this?

  • @michellenorris8471

    @michellenorris8471

    2 ай бұрын

    @@mariannehancock8282 There are many, many Palestinian refugees all over the world with legal rights of return for decades now, it is Israel who have unlawfully not allowed them to express this lawful right. Israel will never ever be able to ethnically cleanse the Palestinians.

  • @nigeljoseph5472
    @nigeljoseph54722 ай бұрын

    Said, Chomsky, Pappe and Finkelstein are intellectual giants. My admiration for them knows no bounds.

  • @jenkins7459

    @jenkins7459

    2 ай бұрын

    There only "intellectual giants" in your mind because they confirm your preconceptions.

  • @AA-ik1ek
    @AA-ik1ek2 ай бұрын

    Professor Pappe’ is amazingly courageous, eloquent and well-studied.

  • @mephilees7866

    @mephilees7866

    2 ай бұрын

    I'm surprised he is still alive after saying such things. He is such a great asset to the world. We need more people like him.

  • @Globalcrisisdirtyoil

    @Globalcrisisdirtyoil

    2 ай бұрын

    Yes, he said the truth and he is well educated but look at the other side Izraeli spokesperson Elon Levy studied at Oxford University...😂& he is the greatest Zionist 🤡🤥

  • @manubande

    @manubande

    2 ай бұрын

    Illan Pappe is an International Treasure...

  • @saffanalvy
    @saffanalvy2 ай бұрын

    "Whatever is happening in Gaza is worse than 1948." - Pappe

  • @FR33_PALESTIN33

    @FR33_PALESTIN33

    2 ай бұрын

    "In my perspective, what's happening now in Gaza is far worse than what happened in 1948."

  • @TristanMorrow

    @TristanMorrow

    2 ай бұрын

    History awareness test: what do you think he's talking about happened in 1948? (real question; am curious)

  • @Deine.Mutter.Mag.Bratfett.

    @Deine.Mutter.Mag.Bratfett.

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@TristanMorrowthe nakba

  • @dennisstember5062

    @dennisstember5062

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TristanMorrow Just watch the video. He explains what he means in detail.

  • @captainmajed2078

    @captainmajed2078

    2 ай бұрын

    @@TristanMorrow In short, Nakba.

  • @MizanZerangue
    @MizanZerangue2 ай бұрын

    We get to hear and listen to a man with high moral integrity. Another rare gem. Thank you, Sir.

  • @marinarosa8599
    @marinarosa85992 ай бұрын

    Thank you Ilan Pape for your tenacity and integrity ❤❤❤free Palestine 🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

  • @dzovinarshahbazian5573
    @dzovinarshahbazian55732 ай бұрын

    A fantastic interview thank you for exposing the truth.

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    Much appreciated. 🇵🇸 💚 🇵🇸 ❤️ 🇵🇸 💚 🇵🇸 ❤️

  • @saraseydi9999
    @saraseydi99992 ай бұрын

    Such wise words, brilliant interview, thank u Al Jazeera and Ilan Pappe 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💜

  • @janetwalk4996
    @janetwalk49962 ай бұрын

    What a wonderful human being. Such clarity.

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    For sure. 👌

  • @manubande

    @manubande

    2 ай бұрын

    Illan Pappe is an International Treasure...

  • @giladgross4976

    @giladgross4976

    Ай бұрын

    Pape is ignorant and ignorance kills.

  • @janetwalk4996

    @janetwalk4996

    Ай бұрын

    @@giladgross4976 of what? When a person hurls a pathetic insult and doesn’t add to the debate how would you describe them?

  • @ramprasadgurung940
    @ramprasadgurung9402 ай бұрын

    Very brave human being who is serving the humanity.

  • @lowkey_me6038
    @lowkey_me60382 ай бұрын

    Huge respect to IIan Pappe . ❤

  • @D-E-S_8559

    @D-E-S_8559

    2 ай бұрын

    AMENmesse ca. 1203-1200 B.C. is the Nubian Pharaoh of the 19th dynasty that settled "sea peoples" in Kanaan ....In Christianity we end our prayers in his name, in honour of his role to Abrahamic religions....

  • @manubande

    @manubande

    2 ай бұрын

    Illan Pappe is an International Treasure...

  • @soundcanvas1450
    @soundcanvas14502 ай бұрын

    Wise man 🌎🌱

  • @g1fcg
    @g1fcg2 ай бұрын

    We have the UK with the Balfour declaration to thank for this horrific 'situation' in Palestine - giving land that wasn't theirs to give! I feel absolutely ashamed to be 'British'!!

  • @OldTeaMate

    @OldTeaMate

    2 ай бұрын

    It's even worse. Look at the balfour-declaration adressee.

  • @g1fcg

    @g1fcg

    2 ай бұрын

    @@OldTeaMate I know, Lord Rothschild - and what was said did not happen!

  • @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    Ай бұрын

    Wir können die Vergangenheit nicht ändern - aber in Zukunft vieles besser machen. Allein uns Bürgern (Sie britisch, ich deutsch) stehen nur all zu oft unsere Regierungen im Weg.

  • @annoloki

    @annoloki

    8 күн бұрын

    Britain didn't give away any land, this is an Israeli invention. The British goal was to create a Jewish ruling class in Palestine, just as the French were doing in Syria with the Alawites. This is about territory for governance, not land. Land ownership is private property, at no point was this "given away". As Britain became aware that the zionists had no intention of living along side the existing population, and were going to be violently removing them, Britain did actually start to put the brakes on... not very hard, we're still talking extreme racist times, but the zionists started getting support from Stalin, getting huge weapons imports from Czechoslovakia, and there was a lot of violence between the zionists and the British. But, after the war, there were some 300,000 holocaust survivors stuck in camps in Germany, and this was a real problem, as the population was deeply indoctrinated into the idea that it was Jewish people who were responsible for all the problems, and nothing would be better until they were gone. The zionists didn't really want the survivors going there, seeing them as probably the "bad ones" who saved themselves by selling out others, so couldn't be trusted, but Ben Gurion was basically bribed with getting legal recognition of the state in return for accepting a load of the survivors. The zionists began the massacres in november 1947, as British forces were preparing to leave. We turned a blind eye, to get peace in Europe, we condemned the Palestinians to eternal violence and terror. When the holocaust survivors arrived, they had empty homes to stroll right into. The zionists lied to them, exploiting their experience in Europe to control them, telling them "they hate us, we defended ourselves", trapping Palestinians in a narcissistic relationship where everything they do to try and escape punishment is interpreted as aggression that requires further punishment... ie, victim inversion. But make no mistake, the zionists stole the land with guns, they were extremely brutal, nobody gave it to them.

  • @w28a
    @w28a2 ай бұрын

    I am simply amazed by the words.

  • @suleimanalmageni5257
    @suleimanalmageni52572 ай бұрын

    Hats off for mr.Pappe for his logical modrate argument on the conflicts issue

  • @Icanttimetravelyet2023
    @Icanttimetravelyet20232 ай бұрын

    This is a good man 👍🏽

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    Indeed. Ilan Pappé is very good and honest historian. 🫡 💚 🇵🇸 🍉 🇵🇸 🤍 🇵🇸 🖤 🇵🇸 ❤️ 🇵🇸 🕊️

  • @manubande

    @manubande

    2 ай бұрын

    Illan Pappe is an International Treasure...

  • @manuelashirinknapp9153
    @manuelashirinknapp91532 ай бұрын

    Very good interview.

  • @susanpang1173
    @susanpang11732 ай бұрын

    I’m so respect you, Pappe. So wise, and very good knowledge, and very kind heart man. hope your ❤️to Palestine people will come true asap.🙏🙏🙌

  • @captainyak3948
    @captainyak39482 ай бұрын

    I think ICJ should listen to Ilan Pappé.

  • @uneti463

    @uneti463

    2 ай бұрын

    he is a witness, yes

  • @parrotbrand2782

    @parrotbrand2782

    Ай бұрын

    Why listen to him, i think ICJ should listen to Taylor Swift.

  • @esmaanderson1802
    @esmaanderson18022 ай бұрын

    A very informative and respectful conversation. Thank you

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    Indeed. Very informative and respectful. Excellent work,👌 Al Jazeera and Ilan Pappé. 🇵🇸 ❤️ 🇵🇸 💚 🇵🇸 🍉 🇵🇸

  • @admirosmani3765
    @admirosmani37652 ай бұрын

    Ilan Pappe is a great historian

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    For sure. 👍

  • @deansawich6250
    @deansawich62502 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this insightful interview. It is nice to see a positive vision of the future coming from a very wise man. I live in South Africa, and have since 1983. The other day I was at the Barber Shop, it is owned and run by a Muslim man from Indian heritage. His staff is young Zulu men and women. During my haircuting session, the clientele that came through were Indian males, white males, and me an American expat male. To listen to the banter and leg pulling amoungst all ensundry was heart-warming and cheering to the spirit. In 1983 this group would not have ever been allowed to even assemble. South Africa, with all its warts, has made the transition that Professor Pappé envisions for Palestinians and the Israelis that want to stay as equals. Right now they don't know what they are missing. Free Palestine and freedom for the Palestinians ❤️❤️❤️🇵🇸🇵🇸🇵🇸

  • @Annissa-dv6kc

    @Annissa-dv6kc

    2 ай бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this. I’m a Palestinian-American living in Europe in a community that has become an immigration destination for Israelis and white South Africans. While I find it challenging to summon empathy for these self-designated “refugees” who have become disillusioned with their “homelands,” I understand that, ultimately, we are all children of the Empire. It warms my heart to hear your story.💜🕊️

  • @deansawich6250

    @deansawich6250

    2 ай бұрын

    @@Annissa-dv6kc Thanks. If you want an affirmation, Google a picture of the South African Ruby team. A once bastion of Afrikaans manhood and South African identity, is now fully South African and fully supported in the country and has been for years.

  • @muniebabrown4021
    @muniebabrown40212 ай бұрын

    ❤❤Prof Pappi❤❤what a great historian❤much Respect

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    Much respect, indeed. 🫡 🇵🇸 💚 🇵🇸

  • @stephenkeddy6849
    @stephenkeddy68492 ай бұрын

    He’s an extraordinary man❤️🇵🇸🗝️

  • @judithkuster6646
    @judithkuster66462 ай бұрын

    Ilan pappé is a nice, honest historian and very very simplistic thinker.

  • @edsynio3556
    @edsynio35562 ай бұрын

    AJ: Peace better than war.

  • @user-cs8zc6gf6t
    @user-cs8zc6gf6t2 ай бұрын

    Thankyou!!!!!!!

  • @miriamschiro8585
    @miriamschiro85852 ай бұрын

    “Thisis ethnic cleansing with the intent to genocide. It’s far worse than what happened in 1948. That’s the 1st point” 9:52 Sooooo glad you interviewed Ilan Pappe I wish he was interviewed MUCH MUCH sooner 🤦🏽‍♀️ he should be a historian teacher teaching this truth to the world. I Will look for his book it will be a treasure to have in my library 📚 ❤

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    He has many books. _Ten Myths About Israel_ and _The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine_ are good starting places.

  • @OldTeaMate

    @OldTeaMate

    2 ай бұрын

    There are many both lectures and interviews with Ilan Pappé, if you haven"t noticed already, and not two are alike.

  • @miriamschiro8585

    @miriamschiro8585

    2 ай бұрын

    @@meetings3071 oh ok thx 😊 I will get both of those to start. Such knowledge of this event having in our time it is a treasure to have for the future generation to better understand and have a real inside view of this horrific event that will be in the history books.

  • @miriamschiro8585

    @miriamschiro8585

    2 ай бұрын

    @@OldTeaMate thank you! I feel bad that I’m just now learning about him smh 🤦🏽‍♀️

  • @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    Ай бұрын

    Und dann vergleichen Sie mal die Ansichten des Historikers Pappe mit der, des Historikers Wolffsohn. Leider sieht es so aus, dass Wolffsohn seine Indoktrination sowohl bei der Bundeswehr als auch neuerdings im Jugendbereich anbringen darf. Wir brauchen einen Pappe - aber wir haben einen Wolffsohn. Da läuft etwas ganz gehörig falsch.

  • @kate-miawhite5633
    @kate-miawhite56332 ай бұрын

    It’s awful what’s happening in Gaza. I wish I didn’t feel so powerless 😢

  • @jerrymiller9039

    @jerrymiller9039

    2 ай бұрын

    You can speak out against hamas

  • @jbear1801

    @jbear1801

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@thegodkratos1275truth hurts, zionazi 😘

  • @shehannanayakkara4162

    @shehannanayakkara4162

    2 ай бұрын

    I found his description of the Gaza Strip from 1948-1967 quite disingenuous though, he neglected to mention that Egypt invaded and annexed the territory, calling it an Israeli creation makes no sense.

  • @marianaalexandru6166

    @marianaalexandru6166

    2 ай бұрын

    @@VerneRawks 17 years of the total blockade of Gaza, 56 years of occupation and 75 years of dehumanization of the Palestinians? No one is superior to another, otherwise we allow what happened in the 1940s to return, but with other actors.

  • @peacekeeper4654

    @peacekeeper4654

    2 ай бұрын

    Spoken like a true Zionist & coloniser. Israel has become a Pariah state. Whatever happens next their people will never be looked at the same again....@@thegodkratos1275

  • @user-tf3qi2wg8j
    @user-tf3qi2wg8j2 ай бұрын

    As an antiimperialist American dating back to Palestine work in college beginning in the early 1970's, this is one of the best interviews I've ever heard on Palestine/Israel.

  • @user-uq3ie2io6e
    @user-uq3ie2io6e2 ай бұрын

    ‼️Richtig 👏👏👏 Gut gesagt❤

  • @krios2905
    @krios29052 ай бұрын

    Thank you. This is one of the best interviews on the matter I have ever watched. So clear, so true. Free Palestine 🇵🇸

  • @Puta692
    @Puta6922 ай бұрын

    I admired Ilan Pappe he is truthful Jew.

  • @jenkins7459

    @jenkins7459

    2 ай бұрын

    What a veiled shameful statement as if Jews with a different viewpoint are not truthful.

  • @DonnaMcFadden
    @DonnaMcFadden2 ай бұрын

    Excellent report!! Thank you to both of you. Dareen you really did your homework! Great questions. Very refreshing to hear such a thoughtful, well articulated summary Mr. Pappé. Much appreciated!

  • @user-fg4vk4tn7d
    @user-fg4vk4tn7d2 ай бұрын

    Omg someone talking sense

  • @der1777
    @der17772 ай бұрын

    Thank goodness for people like Ilan Pappe it take courage to stand up for the truth. Bless him. And thanks to AJ. I always say, look up the Lehi militant group from 1948 because it's where thing started.

  • @OldTeaMate

    @OldTeaMate

    2 ай бұрын

    lehi+irgun+stern. irgun founded by jabotinski, who wrote essay:"iron wall", his opinion of "current affairs". brits trained eastern european colonisers earlier, and used them as auxilliary forces. Many brit officers were christian zionists (I.E. general major orde charles wingate, who bannered unconventional warfare). The native were heavily brutalised throughout the '30s. Recommended podcast: Fear&Loathing in Palestine, Darryll Cooper (MartyrMade).

  • @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    Ай бұрын

    Nicht zuletzt waren KZs eine Erfindung der Briten.

  • @esrefcelikcelik8789
    @esrefcelikcelik87892 ай бұрын

    An honest man.

  • @fathimourali4118
    @fathimourali41182 ай бұрын

    We seldom hear an honest and objective man like him.

  • @Glastonbury1
    @Glastonbury12 ай бұрын

    What a marvellous human being!! Words cannot express the gratitude and respect I feel for Mr. Pappe and others such as Norman Finkelstein, Angela Davis, Christopher Hedges, Hasam Zomlot, Miko Peled, Nurit Peled Elhanan etc. They are shining enormous light and truth on the genocide committed by Israel. This knowledge is irefutable!!! I thank them from the bottom of my heart!!❣❣❣

  • @shariz01
    @shariz012 ай бұрын

    A man with great morals and a human

  • @rosestewart1606
    @rosestewart16062 ай бұрын

    Ilan Pappe is right. Hamas is settling for a 2 state solution but 1 state is inevitable. It's amazing that historians have the best talent for predicting the future.

  • @LordMalice6d9

    @LordMalice6d9

    Ай бұрын

    Predicting the future is not difficult. It is pattern recognition.

  • @Harris665
    @Harris6652 ай бұрын

    I can’t imagine how it would feel to go against my tribe so I respect professor pappe for speaking the truth

  • @aviava7097

    @aviava7097

    2 ай бұрын

    It is pretty lonely, but once you see the injustice you can't un-see it.

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@aviava7097 The straight path is not always the easy path. Respect 🫡 to you for standing with the truth.

  • @mariaejose4437

    @mariaejose4437

    2 ай бұрын

    @@aviava7097 But many see the injustice and stay mouth shouted to avoid personal troubles. He has the courage to speak. He deserves respect for that.

  • @faiznuiri129

    @faiznuiri129

    2 ай бұрын

    Un grand historien qui a la Palestine au coeur

  • @aviava7097

    @aviava7097

    Ай бұрын

    @@mariaejose4437 Unfortunately I don't think this is true. Almost all of Israeli society, 'left' and right, just support Zionism.

  • @nicolebalm6116
    @nicolebalm61162 ай бұрын

    So clear, thank you!

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    Indeed. 👍

  • @mamadeem.kamara4279
    @mamadeem.kamara42792 ай бұрын

    Very informative and educative interview. The Professor is well knowledgeable of the long standing history of Palestine and Israel. The US and UK intentionally reject the facts when it comes to the case of Palestine. It's sad!

  • @victoriadizon9979
    @victoriadizon99792 ай бұрын

    "A proper Palestinian organization"..This is what is desperately needed and there are definitely so many capable Palestinian minds that can coalesce to bring this Palestinian organization to fruition.

  • @user-mk4oo3eo3p
    @user-mk4oo3eo3p2 ай бұрын

    Thank you Sir, your the great man. Told all the truth about the Gainist their all corruption.

  • @BronwynReiss
    @BronwynReiss2 ай бұрын

    So much respect for this gentle man. So grateful to see him speak in Toronto many years ago. Incredibly informative. 😢

  • @Tajota512
    @Tajota5122 ай бұрын

    Can’t get tired to hear you Ilan Pappe ❤ Free free Palestine 🍉

  • @victoriadizon9979
    @victoriadizon99792 ай бұрын

    The transition must go quickly and positively, as Ilan Pappe says. So plans and discussions have to have already begun some time ago because the groundwork has to have been laid. This is very crucial, enlightening and exciting !

  • @rupertthomson767
    @rupertthomson7672 ай бұрын

    A fantastic interview, thanks for sharing

  • @coronato7988
    @coronato79882 ай бұрын

    illan pappe is a courageous voice for truth

  • @FreePalestineFromGenocideNOW
    @FreePalestineFromGenocideNOW2 ай бұрын

    I wish more Israelis were as educated and enlightened as him

  • @tomdofsnj

    @tomdofsnj

    2 ай бұрын

    Many Israelis are very educated. He stated the problem is what they teach their kids. Zionist was a bunch of people who left Europe before the horrors of WWII, and those people flooded illegally into the British mandate. They have had the tin cup out, sucking the wealth of the world with tears of what happened in Europe. The Middle East will only continue at war until something is done.

  • @jenkins7459

    @jenkins7459

    2 ай бұрын

    Oh, so Palestinians don't need any education or enlightenment.

  • @ASKR612

    @ASKR612

    Ай бұрын

    Good morning! Wake up my friend! In accordance to several independent research show that Israel is one of the most educated and enlightened country on the world, not Gaza or the West bank.

  • @giladgross4976

    @giladgross4976

    Ай бұрын

    Educated? Notice how Pape never talks about the Islamic religion and certainly never mentions the Hadiths that call for violence.

  • @tomdofsnj

    @tomdofsnj

    Ай бұрын

    @@ASKR612 That wonderful fact has been purchased on the back of many true owners of the land that they stole. The wonderful education has often been obtained with the tin cup making others pay the cost.

  • @neda4056
    @neda40562 ай бұрын

    it was a real pleasure listen to Pappe !

  • @sohailagha1803
    @sohailagha18032 ай бұрын

    Thanks and respect for speaking truth

  • @UmmuFarras
    @UmmuFarras2 ай бұрын

    I love listening to this gentleman and Avi Shlaim. They are treasures of humanity

  • @willkoop6100
    @willkoop61002 ай бұрын

    This has to be the important dialogue to date on this subject. Thank you Al Jazeera for opening this door. Pappe's synthesis, his articulation, is rational, sensible, compassionate, daring, and insightful. This looks like the best path forward. What he says about south Africa, in relation to Israel, is dead on! Painful, but necessary.

  • @GeoffreyAngapa
    @GeoffreyAngapa2 ай бұрын

    Telling it like it is. Respect to Mr. Pappé. Though supposedly counter-intuitive, a one-state solution could be the right answer. It's what worked in my country, South Africa, though people didn't think it would.

  • @myrtillesm3532

    @myrtillesm3532

    2 ай бұрын

    We ought to live as egual , with egual rights for every one. Then no need for a wall of shame. Justice, equity, respect and humanity for all can bring security and real peace

  • @orlandos8323

    @orlandos8323

    2 ай бұрын

    It has worked for centuries. Wouldn't it be wonderful again, all people of the 3 faiths living together in mutual respect and dignity.

  • @GeoffreyAngapa

    @GeoffreyAngapa

    2 ай бұрын

    @@orlandos8323 It would be wonderful and beautiful. I hope we see it someday!

  • @stuartbailey9287

    @stuartbailey9287

    2 ай бұрын

    Probably fair to say that the rival tribes in South Africa like the Boars, Zulu etc etc did not include many religious fanatics who consider they are on a mission from God to wipe out their rivals no matter what the cost and were keen to make a deal to avoid a never ending war. If Israel crumbles in the same way as other states in its imediate locality its probably going to go the same way as Syria, Lebanon and Iraqi with the moderate democrats crushed between rival extreme religious groups and fleeing into exile while the fanatics keep fighting. In this Ilan Pappe fleeing to UK in 2006 seems to be ahead of the rush.

  • @user-wj1ko9yl6b

    @user-wj1ko9yl6b

    2 ай бұрын

    I hear so much cruelty in the Israeli education system against Palestinians and the evil treatment. It feels like it would take generations to pass before Palestinians would get respect as human beings, even after the genocide and atrocities stopped.

  • @khehlamtimanzekunene2792
    @khehlamtimanzekunene27922 ай бұрын

    Thank you Professor for telling the truth.long live, Palestine will be free one day

  • @Mairaaax
    @Mairaaax2 ай бұрын

    He’s absolutely correct all the factions need to unite to create one body

  • @adinahaun6001
    @adinahaun60012 ай бұрын

    Wonderful human in every way- smart, brave, articulate, and a gift to us during these terrible days.

  • @stephendoherty981
    @stephendoherty9812 ай бұрын

    Thank God for people like IIan Pappe and Noam Chomsky. Voices of reason. Pappe's book on the 1948 Nakba is essential reading to explain the origins of the conflict.

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    I agree. 👍 It is shockingly accurate to see how history repeats itself, including the plan to use starvation as a weapon, which was considered by the Zionists as far back as 1948.

  • @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    Ай бұрын

    Vor allem, weil er sich da noch auf Quellen berufen konnte, die - wie ich vor kurzem las - demnächst nicht mehr frei zugänglich sei. sollen. Kein Wunder bei der jetzigen Apartheid- Regierung.

  • @DomanToha
    @DomanToha2 ай бұрын

    Shame on Nyetanyau and his supporters,Mr Pape has now spoken the truth.God will answer them.

  • @susannebuge976
    @susannebuge9762 ай бұрын

    Thank you very much for this Interview ❤

  • @l23918
    @l239182 ай бұрын

    So sad, beyond comprehension to witness this horrific aggression everyday, the plight of the Gazans.

  • @D-E-S_8559

    @D-E-S_8559

    2 ай бұрын

    AMENmesse ca. 1203-1200 B.C. is the Nubian Pharaoh of the 19th dynasty that settled "sea peoples" in Kanaan ....In Christianity we end our prayers in his name, in honour of his role to Abrahamic religions..

  • @naymatunc-rc6vs
    @naymatunc-rc6vs2 ай бұрын

    A great human with Heart

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    Absolutely.

  • @manubande

    @manubande

    2 ай бұрын

    Illan Pappe is an International Treasure...

  • @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    Ай бұрын

    Welch ein Unterschied zu den in Deutschland lebenden Juden Schuster in Wolffsohn. Gäbe es nur mehr von der Art Pappe oder Chomsky ​@@manubande

  • @frazel22
    @frazel222 ай бұрын

    This intellectual Giant among the International Solidary Movement and the New Historian Movement is such an aspiring figure!

  • @roseismil6142
    @roseismil61422 ай бұрын

    May god have mercy to Palestinian and god bless this man for standing up with humanity 😢

  • @astridschwarz5473
    @astridschwarz54732 ай бұрын

    Dear Mr. Pappe, Please come to Germany. We need some sense talked into our government.

  • @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    Ай бұрын

    Ich habe das Buch ,Die ethnische Säuberung Palästinas' vor Jahren gelesen und darüber gestaunt. dass Herr Pappe Zugang zu so vielen Quellen hatte. Da waren Aufzeichnungen von Ben Gurion darunter, die wenig schmeichelhaft waren. Auch durfte Herr Pappe Einsicht in Militärakten haben und damit der Wahrheitsgehalt seiner Untersuchung der damaligen Vorkommnisse untermauern.

  • @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    Ай бұрын

    and please talk to our MSM - they need the correct information

  • @ghalibgalant9750
    @ghalibgalant97502 ай бұрын

    À very thoughtful insight into what is possible. Thank you Prof Pape

  • @dzovinarshahbazian5573
    @dzovinarshahbazian55732 ай бұрын

    I love both Israelis and Palestinians and I pray one day they will both live in peace .This man is wise and brave he should lead .

  • @meetings3071

    @meetings3071

    2 ай бұрын

    Indeed.

  • @Simon.the.Likeable

    @Simon.the.Likeable

    2 ай бұрын

    Everyone who was there lived in peace side by side for centuries. Then something changed when an "-ism" was imposed.

  • @shamim621

    @shamim621

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Simon.the.Likeableexactly 💯 that

  • @mariahewitt9787

    @mariahewitt9787

    2 ай бұрын

    ​@@Simon.the.Likeable Yes, Zionism.

  • @dianacasey6002

    @dianacasey6002

    2 ай бұрын

    Sorry after seeing ppl blockading aid truck do t think I could ever do a both sides. I’ll leave it at that.

  • @user-qf1zg4zz8j
    @user-qf1zg4zz8j2 ай бұрын

    Ilan Pappe has such a clear, quiet understanding. I so want to believe his vision can come to pass. His book "The ethnic cleansing of Palestine" is requisite reading for people on a journey of understanding.

  • @kedisburrja1666
    @kedisburrja16662 ай бұрын

    Thank you for making this meeting possible.

  • @sho-na
    @sho-na2 ай бұрын

    I would love to see AJ have Professor Rashid Khalidi on this series. His work complements Professor Pappe’s nicely.

  • @georgeeby3437
    @georgeeby34372 ай бұрын

    This man gives me hope

  • @juliethurner4099
    @juliethurner40992 ай бұрын

    Thank you both for the interesting interview. This is the first time I have heard an open discussion on the one state solution, definitely the best solution I have heard so far.

  • @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    Ай бұрын

    Die Frage ist, weshalb sind derartig aufklärerische 24:59 Interviews im deutschen TV nicht zu sehen? Warum und von wem wird das verhindert?

  • @bmobless
    @bmobless2 ай бұрын

    Ilan Pappe is one of the greatest people on Earth

  • @WaseemSahal
    @WaseemSahal2 ай бұрын

    Nice truthful person..

  • @orlandos8323
    @orlandos83232 ай бұрын

    Very impressed! People like Professor Pappé are lights in the dark ❤ Thank you Al Jazeera

  • @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    @user-cu9tp8dp1p

    Ай бұрын

    Hat - angesichts dieses Interviews - irgendein europäischer TV Sender Grund auf Al Jazeera herabzublicken? Ganz klar: Nein! Ihr von ARD, ZDF etc solltet Euch ein Beispiel daran nehmen, wie Journalismus auszusehen hat, damit er akzeptiert wird.

  • @victoriadizon9979
    @victoriadizon99792 ай бұрын

    Great interview/discussion, Al Jazeera !

  • @melodymzoubi4140
    @melodymzoubi41402 ай бұрын

    Mr Pappe is a great and intelligent human being. May he always be blessed. Thank you both

  • @RobinHerzig
    @RobinHerzig2 ай бұрын

    Feels like this convo was way too short… but it's super important to get Prof Pappé's voice out there ✊

  • @yasserel-harmil535
    @yasserel-harmil5352 ай бұрын

    What a man! Great thoughts

  • @djsouf5604
    @djsouf56042 ай бұрын

    What a legend! Thank you sir

  • @mgm9119
    @mgm91192 ай бұрын

    What an honest intellectual! Professor Pappe is indeed a gift to humanity!

  • @nazninequreshi3972
    @nazninequreshi39722 ай бұрын

    Thank you Sir Ilhan Pappe🙏

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