Who's greater? Kobe or LeBron?

@Randomthoughts10152

3 ай бұрын

MJ said it himself Championship wise Kobe Bryant in terms of dominating the game of basketball it’s Lebron

@johnchen997

3 ай бұрын

Easy kobe

@oliverjebakumar4

3 ай бұрын

Kobe

@benjaminnvodjo6662

3 ай бұрын

Mike is the best

@JayzoTheNextKobeBryant2.0

3 ай бұрын

Kobe Bryant

Lebron doesn't 'work' on flopping. He's a natural talent at it.

@peduardoperez2219

3 ай бұрын

It's the only go to move he has developed

@JJAISA

3 ай бұрын

@@peduardoperez2219 legit bro. I get so mad cuz it's like he has an affect on his team with it too. AR, AD, and alot of other players on the lakers flop more now.

@peduardoperez2219

3 ай бұрын

@@JJAISA and his signature flex 💪🏽 too small taunt to guys half his size. So he actually has a little bag

@avengerkill809

3 ай бұрын

Flopping or no flopping, still smoked that bandwagons gsw girly warriors, ended that dynasty last season look at you can't even be in the play in 🤣🤣🤣.

@peduardoperez2219

3 ай бұрын

@@avengerkill809 wtf did you say? LePrincess

If crying, traveling, double dribbling, flopping, LeBron played during era of Magic, Bird, Dr J, Karl Malone, and Kareem his career would have ended 10 years ago. There's no "CRYING" in baskeball!!! Lebron is definitely not the GOAT. He doesn't rank in the top 5. He's on the bottom of the Top 10.

@coldskoolbeatz

Ай бұрын

preach💯

@Bcananzey

Ай бұрын

Oh man does he travel. Traveling in the NBA is so bad now. I saw wembinyama take three complete steps on a dunk and wasn't called. I mean 3 complete strides. He ran from the top of the key and dunked. No call. I was like WTF.

@johnfoster1800

Ай бұрын

Thank You !

@DasJosiah

Ай бұрын

So you obviously don't watch basketball if you really say that lebron isn't top 2

@stebbiej

Ай бұрын

U forgot charging

Stats don't make a case for GOAT, a combination of rings + clutches + intangibles do.

Lebron doesn’t belong in the conversation with Kobe, Kobe is wayy better

@paulespinoza1994

3 күн бұрын

The Bulls didn't play dynasty's they were the Dynasty that's the difference!

@dennissvitak5475

21 сағат бұрын

Kobe was the master of the 12 for 27, with three assists. Nope. I can think of 50 other players I would rather have on my team.

Flopping is frustrating, but not owning up to it is the worst. Pure gaslighting us like its not on camera.

@luciolynx5443

3 ай бұрын

It’s the NBA’s fault for allowing it to happen and for us dumb fans for continuing to watch.

@Arrogan28

3 ай бұрын

Lebron is why i no longer watch Basketball. I was so sickened by it I just see no point in watching when the refs decide more of the game now then the players... and Lebron gets ridiculous game changing calls over and over again.. it's insane...

@chanellesmith1856

3 ай бұрын

For God sakes put all of us out of our misery and just retire!!!!! @#%^$#@$&^%$#@$$#@@@$$!!!!!!!!!!

@ch-yq5yn

3 ай бұрын

That's the fucked up part. Evidence clearly on camera, and a lot of it. Yet lies.

@LoneStarVII

3 ай бұрын

Not every lie is gaslighting. 😂

The argument that Lebron faced tougher competition in the finals is a mute argument, because MJ made the Bulls the best team in the finals every trip they made to the finals. The reason Lebron is not the GOAT is because he did not sustain dominance on both ends of the court like MJ did, and for as long as MJ did (10 scoring titles and 9 All Defensive FIRST team in a row), on top of NEVER disappearing in the Finals. Lebron can not escape what Dallas did to his super team in Miami. As well as the Spurs. So what, Dallas was a better team than Lebron's created super team?? Y'all need to stop. On the highest stage with the most stakes (the NBA Finals) MJ NEVER disappeared. NEVER! Lebron did. Period. And We don't even hold Lebron's first trip to the finals against the Spurs in 2003 against him.

@hakeemolajuwon4352

3 ай бұрын

Just think of the teams Jordan had to beat to get to those Finals. The 92' and 93' Knicks could've beaten the Warriors and the 96' Sonics would beat every team LeBron ever beat in the Finals or ever.

@NuryPPanaligan

3 ай бұрын

​@@hakeemolajuwon4352Are you delusional? Only MJ's Bulls can beat GSW with 4 future HOFs (Curry, Thompson, Green, Durant).

@lewisgermany368

3 ай бұрын

LEBRON SUCKS PERIOD NO GOD DAM GOAT

@hakeemolajuwon4352

3 ай бұрын

@@NuryPPanaligan you just flat out don't know basketball. Curry can't even deal with Kyrie type defense with no rim protectors, if he had to deal with Starks, Mason, Oakley and Ewing all bumping him and contesting everything, everybody punking Draymond, everybody punking skinny little Durant. Durant is so skinny, half of his offense would be neutralized cuz he wouldn't be able to drive past anybody cuz he's weak

@duaneharper6095

3 ай бұрын

Lebron is just a frontrunner he can't take over and bring a team back very often. When you watched Kobe it always felt like a matter of time til he gets hot and goes on a run. If lebron is playing poorly it feels like it's going to be a blowout because even though he's playing bad, they still running offense through him.

For me it's level of competition, 10 finals from beating a historically shitty conference (that he made even shittier teaming up with other Eastern stars) isn't as impressive as the hype suggests, before we even get to the Finals record Jordan and Kobe in particular would have sliced through those conferences too; Lebron staying healthy the whole time is the most impressive thing about it, and there's a big element of luck in that. Jordan's East was tough with most of the league contenders (Knicks, Pacers, Cavs, Magic), made it out 6 times, won 6 times -- Kobe went through a TOUGH WC 7 times, won 5 of them and both teams that beat the Lakers were top 5 all-time defenses that keyed in on Kobe himself. Who was Lebron's best Eastern competition that he actually beat? Old Celtics, Rookie Tatum Celtics, Indiana with PG and Peak Hibbert??? Light work for most ATGs with decent squad around them. Then when you get to the Finals Lebronball doesn't cut it, too predictable for the great teams -- which Jordan and Kobe had to face ON THE WAY to the Finals which is why they were better prepared and adaptable. But it gets Lebron his stats which makes it easy to point the finger at teammates and wait for the media and statnerds to make excuses for you... Lebron is still great, some of us have seen better that's just what it is. I say the same thing to Kobe fans about Jordan, no hate! And if more Wilt or Kareem footage comes out to convince me I'll be honest and put them over Jordan But I watched all 3 of these win all of their chips in real time starting in 91 and Jordan > Kobe > Lebron based on who's leading their team to WIN (all I care about), all things being equal

Never been Lebron fan. And this is exactly why. I told my son, back when Lebron was desperately trying to pass Kareem…and he was staying on the court almost the entire game, constantly….I said, “I’ll bet my life, when he finally passes it, he’ll claim he’s hurt and sit on the bench for the next few weeks.” And what do ya know… he did exactly that. Then, miraculously, when the rest of the team started racking up wins and got into playoff contention.. He suddenly got better and started playing again. Lebron is for Lebron… period.

@cambell-yi2gh

2 ай бұрын

Yeah like every team he's won a championship on coulda done it without him. He could easily play two more seasons. "Desperately" lol. Yeah he barely got that one...2000 pts later.

@TheRoyalGenerationiTunes

2 ай бұрын

@@cambell-yi2gh you completely took “desperately” out of context. And the two points you tried to make, had nothing to do with mine.

@user-fb7bx1ml7d

2 ай бұрын

LeBum is for SATAN. Recognize the signs/agenda.

@doodoo871

Ай бұрын

@@cambell-yi2ghla flop, la balco.

@parkermudsen1063

Ай бұрын

🎯

"We don't work on flopping" - lol that's why they are so obvious.

@passthecollectionplate

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@crungefactory

3 ай бұрын

He didn't say I.

@jerrylattimore9232

3 ай бұрын

HE DON'T FLOP. THAT BUM PROBABLY HAVE THE FLOPPING MANUAL IN HIS LOCKER.

@theevermind

2 ай бұрын

He has a soccer tutor

8:01 - Why is it seen as more impressive to lose 3 games in a finals and win, than to win it 4-0 without dropping a single game to best team of the opposing conferance?

Speed up that 'we don't work on floppin' montage and you got a sick hook yo! 😂😂😂😂😂

If you keep begging for the title you will never get it

@wispy__

3 ай бұрын

He doesn't beg for it

@ifade26

3 ай бұрын

@@wispy__ He does. LOL. Calling yourself the GOAT is begging to be called the GOAT.

@yvngxsensai

3 ай бұрын

@@ifade26if I give myself a title it’s because I believe i am worthy of that title that does not mean he is begging anyone else to call him that as well

@literalspam6894

3 ай бұрын

@@wispy__ he’s done it so many times

@metalsadman

3 ай бұрын

@@wispy__ he does 😂, he even called himself one

MJ will always be the goat for me

@csuszi11

3 ай бұрын

and for like 90% of the fans

@Tussinette

3 ай бұрын

For you and the rest of us having eyes.

@rekthereaper3760

3 ай бұрын

Funny Jordan's not in the question lol good old Jordan fans 🤣

@kankerkind7706

3 ай бұрын

@@rekthereaper3760 who is then?

@killerkz0

3 ай бұрын

Did we ask?

Great analysis, straight forward blunt and professional but what made me sub to you is the Background Leonard laugh😂

Great clip bro .!

The Kawhi "ghost laugh" in this video is absolute GOLD!!! 🤣🤣🤣

@jdoconnor8883

2 ай бұрын

😂😂

@TheTruthseeker707

2 ай бұрын

That laugh is the GOAT 🐐 😂

@bakoena82

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@chandlermays2918

2 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😅😅😅 I was about to say the same thing

@jasonvegan5761

2 ай бұрын

Killed me every time 😂😂😂😂

The only reasons he gets his stats this year: - Refs don't call his traveling - Refs don't call his offensive fouls -Refs don't call his flopping -Refs don't give him technical foul when he bitches -Refs award him with free throws when someone even thinks about defending him. -He gives zero f&cks on defense and has become a liability

@NewNormalWorldOrder

2 ай бұрын

He also is a statue on OFFENSE too, when he doesn’t have the ball in his hands

@AbigailMcGarvey

2 ай бұрын

Don't forget the era. Defensive three in the key means rim-defenders have been legislated out of the game. He is a bad mid-range jump shooter but doesn't have to take that shot because he can put his head down and shoulder to the rim. No one is there to help. In the 80s and 90s, bigger men would rotate to help and would put him down and/or make him shoot free throws. "But Lebron's 'shooting' percentage is good!" Take away the layups/dunks, and it's actually awful. Strangely, however, he shoots a better three than he does a mid-range two. Great passer though. . .but then again, the floor is spread out now, so you don't need to be Magic or Bird to make that pass. He's a pharmaceutical marvel, I think. NBA prefers to mythologize players as a marketing tool instead of the sport itself. Quite sad.

@Blake_Laisure

2 ай бұрын

Ok buddy

@rigovertoescalera7107

2 ай бұрын

I'm not a Kobe fan but I give him more respect than LeBron but yeah never seen any vids on Kobe doing the shit that LeBron does.

@christophermckenzie8486

2 ай бұрын

FACTS!!!

flopping and wearing number 23 and jumpman logo, woww

I can’t stand Le Bron! He “Flops” over and over, he’s a “Cry Baby” who complains whenever a call from a Ref doesn’t go his way, and he’s a quitter! I have seen him in the Finals just give up and stop playing when he knows his team is on the verge of losing! IT’S PATHETIC! I compare Le Bron to MJ and there is NO COMPARISON! MJ IS THE GOAT, PERIOD! Le Bron may be able to play for a long time which is the reason he’s breaking so many records! Most players have retired by the time they are in their mid thirties! He’s pushing 40! BOTTOMLINE: I have very little respect for Le Bron for the reasons I’ve already stated plus a few more! To me, he’s a POOR ROLE MODEL!

The background Griner’s laugh HAHAHA😂😂😂

The thing that gets me is, like, he does know there is replay and yet he can flat out deny it. What?!?!?!

@duaneharper6095

3 ай бұрын

I know he outright lies to everyone's face like anyone not playing basketball doesn't understand basketball.

@greezythumb

3 ай бұрын

He's like a modern female. No accountability.

Kawhi's laugh is the best

@Gurenn83

3 ай бұрын

😆😆😆

@ZmajOgnjeniV

3 ай бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

@imulippo5245

2 ай бұрын

There's little bit of Eddie Murphy laugh there...

@user-qe1ny9cl6p

2 ай бұрын

I never realize it til I saw your comment and made me burst in tears from laughing!

The Petty Queen. NBA had to issue a warning to knock off the flopping. What other player has been issued that warning? Not any of the all time greats. Or stretched out on the floor like he’s been shot. And if you’re the all time leader shot’s taken, well it’s no surprise that you’d be the all time leader in scoring, and turn overs. He hasn’t won the regular season MVP since 2012/13 season. There’s nothing that says GOAT when you’re only 4 Chips in 10 finals over a 21/22 yrs in the association. One game separates a 72 / 10 Bulls from the 73 / 9 Warriors. Only 2 more rings you say? How about those 2 three peats? MJ accomplished with the same team. No teaming up with other All stars to try and win a chip. And stats without accomplishments, are just stats. NBA owners are not paying multiple million dollar salaries to see who has the best STATS at the end of the season. Trophies, rings and Chips. There are other reasons why he’s not the GOAT, besides his ridiculous antics on the court.

That Kwahi Leonard laughing in the background is giving me laughing stomach cramps!!!😂😂😂

That game Saturday night and the 43-16 free-throw disparity when steph dropped 46 and shot 3 free-throws ans Austin wonder bread reeves shot 9 free-throws on 7 field goal attempts had me getting ptsd flashbacks to the lakers warriors series last year. The lakers are like +300 free throw attempts on the year yet are last in the league at 38 drive attempts per game. Shit is rigged bruh

@iamtheonlywilly

3 ай бұрын

He said “Austin Wonderbread Reeves” 😂😂😂💀

@LatestDecember8907

3 ай бұрын

Austin flip his hair wen he makes a shot reeves

@TellenJones

3 ай бұрын

Lebron is GOAT - GIRLIEST of all time b/c he flops like a sissy girl despite weighing 270 LBs and running like a tank.

@giftkorope5968

3 ай бұрын

clearly you dont watvh the games .

@dvdv8197

3 ай бұрын

​@@iamtheonlywillyI liked it 😂😂

“We don’t work on flopping” killed me 😂💀💀

@spazzattacktv9406

2 ай бұрын

Sent me 🤣🤣🤣

@brandywalker1090

2 ай бұрын

He is the flop and cry baby master .... Boycott his ass send him anywhere else

@imagine1st381

Ай бұрын

should have had "stop the cap" sound effect after that

The Kawhi laugh 5:03 gets me everytime lmao

That Kawhi laugh was throughout is hilarious

The Kawhi laugh had me cracking up almost every time😂

Tougher competition? Whats harder? Going against the dynasty or being the dynasty year after year after year after year after year …? You get the point

@Dapper_Dean

3 ай бұрын

yeah, I didn't get that statement neither. Jordan and the Bulls, never let any other team have a dynasty. While Bron and his multiple teams, never been the dynasty teams.

@brianr5356

3 ай бұрын

That was a crazy statement he made. Jordan faced slightly stiffer comp in a much much tougher era of the NBA. I don't think anyone can say this era is tougher than the 90's

@Kalou11

3 ай бұрын

Being a dynasty absolutely. Bulls never lost more than 2 games in a row from 90-98 when Jordan was playing is completly insane

@SmoothJK

2 ай бұрын

Even if the "stiffer competition" is a legit point, it's not like LeBron overcame them more than he lost.

@fitzroy6970

2 ай бұрын

@@Dapper_Deanalso curry created a dynasty off of lebron lol

@5:03 That's clearly an intentional miss. Look at the scoreboard & consider the situation. But overall I agree, great breakdown!

A big reason why Le-Bum and Cleveland came back from a 1 - 3 deficit against the Warriors was the officiating in games 5 thru 7!!! Draymond being suspended for game 5 was ridiculous after Le-Bum stepped over him. That creep Le-Bum has been crying and flopping for 10+ years!

@user-dy6eo6fe5x

2 ай бұрын

Cleveland would have NEVER EVEN WON THE FINALS,IF IT WERENT FOR KYRE IRVING! HES NOT A GOAT AND NEVER WILL BE,(KOBE-BRYANT) IS AND ALWAYS will be better,than queen-james,Even bein-dead!!!

@hypocritetrollbot7729

2 ай бұрын

@@user-dy6eo6fe5xKyrie doesn’t get enough credit for that championship. Warriors could NOT guard him. He easily got most of his points ISO drive to the rim. Bron would get all the switches he wanted on Curry and Ezeli.

@HousingOfSorts

Ай бұрын

@@user-dy6eo6fe5xRay Allen saved him in MIA too

@countertenorflor2107

29 күн бұрын

the officiating against curry is unheard of, absolutely dispecable! they trying extremely hard to contain curry ever since 2016 til this very day

Could you see Lebron playing against the bad boy Pistons? He would have been laughed out of the game.

@Hayabusa0019

2 ай бұрын

They'd knock him down, laugh at him, and mock him as he bitches and whines to the officials.

@evilpog1693

2 ай бұрын

Lebron would have had problems with a number of teams during the 80s. Larry Bird would have been more than willing to get in a fistfight with Lebron in Boston. Bill Laimbeer and Rick Mahorn would have made Lebron earns his two points at the charity strip in the Silverdome.

@user-cn8nu6lq4w

2 ай бұрын

Eh. He would have adjusted for the era he was in. Still would've been entertaining though.

@blackoutgstar9949

2 ай бұрын

when he was young he drove with his hip out nba is soft now. no doubt look at someone you ejected. they used to beat the crap out each other no call

@frankcastle1216

2 ай бұрын

He should be laughed out of the game NOW!

The Kawhi edits are perfect 😆😆😆

I'm dying.. We don't work on flopping. 😂

The Kawhi laughing in the background is PRICELESS..

This the same guy that runs through 3 ppl intentionally tackling him just so he can get himself a layup.

@Bobsyagod

3 ай бұрын

key word being runs, because he certainly doesn't dribble through them.

@John6-40

3 ай бұрын

Not enough people talk about this. He literally rams into people at full speed or with his elbows flying around and THEY get called for the foul. Amazing.

@sosaraycharles358

3 ай бұрын

@@John6-40who Giannis??

@surprise23476

3 ай бұрын

@@sosaraycharles358 LeGm

@Gottiline_Ace

3 ай бұрын

​@@sosaraycharles358 he gets calls too, but LeBron is the worst for it. And he cries every time he doesn't get a foul, even if he makes the shot.

Subscribed , Fam

That image on Lebron begging on Celtic Green is priceless.

There's no way Lefraud has faces tougher competition In the finals with the rules of today's sport.

@hypocritetrollbot7729

2 ай бұрын

He has faced tough competition (not often), but that’s when he loses. I think about every single year when he had a cake walk through the weak Eastern Conference. His super teams have lost to the Mavs, Spurs, Warriors, Suns, and Nuggets.

@frankcastle1216

2 ай бұрын

THANK YOU!!

@fherdiliciouzfherdz1525

2 ай бұрын

There's no way you watch nba

@beetlejuice4357

2 ай бұрын

Could you imagine Bird or MJ crying and flopping like that? Lol

@fherdiliciouzfherdz1525

2 ай бұрын

@@beetlejuice4357 I imagine you crying over flopping 😅genius people adapt on rules. Games evolved . You stuck in the past 🤣

😂😂that delayed flop was hilarious 😊

@blackoutgstar9949

2 ай бұрын

nothing funny about it league sucks broke records because they are catered to

Im just curious how he doesnt seem to get a technical when he throws his temper tantrums and gets in the officials faces.

Need for attention, drama king, flop king, staying on the floor excessively when he's not really injured that bad, antics with courtside audiences (getting fans ejected), drama, drama, atttention, flop, excessive need for attention, drama and more drama, social justice victim outside of basketball, putting a target on the backs of police officers, a billionaire but still a victim of America . . . IQ of a grade schooler, and on and on. No, NEVER the goat but a number one narcissist!

Flopping is A reason, not THE reason. His resume doesn't stack with Jordan's or Kareem's. He doesn't pass Jordan or even Kobe or Bird on the eye test. Also, he didn't face tougher Finals competition overall. Facing teams that averaged fewer wins with fewer all-stars. Plus he got crushed by the Spurs and Warriors anyway, going 2-5 against those teams. Also, he does lack "the bag" that Jordan and Kobe had. He has no handle. He is laterally slow and his shot is very stiff and robotic. 90% of his points come on transition dunks, ramming guys in the paint and getting the foul, or chucking low % 3's. He can't adjust his shot in mid-air like Jordan or Kobe. Can't shake an elite wing defender in iso. He relies on picks and mismatches in those situations. He's definitely a top 10 player and maybe even top 5, but for me personally, if I need to win a basketball game to save my life, and get to pick anyone at their peak, I'm taking a lot of guys over LeBron. Jordan, Bird, Kobe, and maybe even guys like Shaq and Duncan.

@manuelsalazar3938

3 ай бұрын

I agree with all you wrote, but, your arguments also prove that this fool isn't a top 5, 10, or 100 top player, his whole career is just a media created lie.

@xtrasolido

3 ай бұрын

Well put.

@duaneharper6095

3 ай бұрын

For me it's a heavy reason, what greatest basketball player would be flopping when no one touches them? I don't think you can be the greatest of you work harder on flopping to get a call than working on a jumpshot to not rely on the refs to bail you out. When lbj came into the league people would say if he worked on his jumpshot he would be unstoppable. Well he never worked on it and at his age with no jumpshot he's pretty incapable of playing within the flow of offense.

@kentperry2791

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, the eye test he looks like a clumsy oaf and the traveling and double dribble is off the charts and they let him get away with it so much its disgusting. The way Lebron plows through players like a linebacker in football. You have to have speed agility finesse talent and skill and you have to make your shots count by making them when your team needs them most. That is what MJ had done his entire career. That is why HE is the goat and Lebron,, well lebron is a joke and his cult of bronsexuals are just annoying.

@greezythumb

3 ай бұрын

Well said bro. I would add that I would also throw Magic in there for a can't lose situation.

Those who knows, knows.... I would choose MJ, Kobe Kareem and Bird in a picking before I choose Magic or Shaq over LeBron

@laartwork

3 ай бұрын

Wilt #1. Everyone else far behind

@TheGuyRelic

3 ай бұрын

You're just hating

@John6-40

3 ай бұрын

I agree on all these guys, but let's just look at Bird. In his prime before back injuries, Bird is giving you 28-10-7 on 50-40-90 shooting. He's also hitting those clutch shots and giving 100% on defense, diving for loose balls, etc. This shouldn't be a hot take. Anyone who watched Larry knows. I'd also take Jordan, Kobe and a few others over LeBron. A lot of this comes down to clutch factor and effort, because any top 10 player ever is going to post great stats. Shaq is giving you 28-12-3 plus 3 blocks on 60% shooting. Jordan is giving you 32-6-6 on 51% with elite defense and clutch ability. Kobe is giving you 28-6-5 on 48% with great defense and clutch ability. LeBron is giving you 27-7-7 on 51% with inconsistent defense and avoiding clutch shots. Give me all those dudes over LeBron.

@JomarJohnson

3 ай бұрын

This is just hating😂😂

@borisfrlic

3 ай бұрын

There's AT LEAST 10-13 players ahead of LeChoke.

2013: the Ray Allen shot 2016: the Kyrie Irving shot 2020: the bubble ring, Anthony Davis

@alfasiger4178

10 күн бұрын

This right here made him the greatest player of all time.

the flint stone flop...🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Both MJ and LBJ played stiff competition in the Finals, averaging about 61 wins each. The reason we don’t hold MJ’s Finals opponents in high regard as we do the Spurs, Warriors, and *gasp* the 2011 Mavs is that Jordan never allowed any Finals opponent the chip. Jordan denied hall-of-famers Ewing, Miller, Barkley, Drexler, Mourning, Payton, Stockton, and Malone championships during his reign. LBJ couldn’t deny Jason Terry one.

@chrisjowoo83

2 ай бұрын

those players are middling stars .. he didn’t deny bird, Magic, Isaiah

@Gandalf_the_Gold

Ай бұрын

⁠@@chrisjowoo83that’s so dumb that’s like saying lebron didn’t stop kobe kg pierce and Tim from winning rings that won’t his era. Lebrons era was full of other champs. One of them bring Jason terry who literally outplayed bron in the 2011 finals and the mavs defensive adjustment for Lebron was jj barea 😂😂 look up the games if u havnt watched lol Jordan literally has zero blemishes on his record while lebron has that along with what 5 other losses in the finals

@Gandalf_the_Gold

Ай бұрын

⁠@@chrisjowoo83and why they were “middling stars” is because Jordan’s denied them championships u don’t think we’d be looking at Clyde differently or Karl Malone and stock if they won chips let alone beat Jordan. No validity to your argument when were talking about hall of famers and nbas own top 75 players

refs don't call offensive fouls on him, he picks and chooses when he will play defense, the list is long.

@digfitness7598

2 ай бұрын

All the greats picked their spots to play defense as they aged. Lebron can't do the same? Playing lock down defense and being fast to react on offense after 10 years straight of basketball is impossible to sustain.

@starlite33

2 ай бұрын

in other words, he's lazy. @@digfitness7598

@starlite33

2 ай бұрын

All the greats? Bill Russell coasted on defense his last 5 or 5 years? Jordan coasted on defense his last 4 or 5 years? Lebron is lazy and entitled. @@digfitness7598

@fullmetal1766

2 ай бұрын

​@@digfitness7598no greats pick and choose

@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403

2 ай бұрын

@@digfitness7598 Kyle Kuzma literally PUSHED LeBron to play defense a few years back. Yes, I'll agree that you need to pace yourself and not go nuts every play. I personally don't fault LeBron for that, because he's come up with iconic great defensive plays. To me, why he never passes MJ in my book: * the mere fact that flopping is rewarded is a joke and the refs trip over themselves to reward his flopping * how many times do we need to see him take five steps and not get called for traveling? * he pretty much gets free drives to the basket, because with the new rules, it's simply impossible to defend his power drives without being called for a foul. MJ got his ass handed to him when he drove to the lane * I hear people say all the time that he's played 20 years and MJ never played that long. LEBRON NEVER WENT TO COLLEGE! Back when MJ played, almost no one went straight to the NBA, no matter how good you were. * one of the biggest arguments: you could beat the s**t out of players in the 80s and 90s. It was a much rougher, more physical game. LeBron's scoring average would drop 5ppg if he had to battle Rick Mahorn and Dennis Rodman and Bill Laimbeer and the Davis Brothers and Oakley and X-Man in the paint. Put MJ in today's soft NBA and he averages 50ppg and plays as many years as he wants.

Exceeded expectations on paper ONLY. On film you see more help than any player over 20 years with just 4 rings. An the stat stuffing is glaring if your watching. Playing NO Defense, litterally crippling the team dynamic to get easy defensive rebounds. He is a scavenger, he collects his stat numbers in situations that dont matter...when its easy. His primary focus is his stats. Not the wins.

Great video, but I think there is also one more factor that puts all time greats above Lebron and didnt saw any video about it. Its a little bit imagine so scenario but I think it touches the subject very well, and I will leave out of it players like Bird, Kareem, Magic or other players from lets say distant past. So imagine if you are a franchise manager and you got a choice to build your franchise on any chosen player knowing almost everything about them, how many people will choose Lebron knowing that Jordan, Duncan, Kobe for that example got more rings then him, knowing that Jordan, Duncan, Kobe, Steph didnt leave the franchise after failing to win championship, knowing that they dont do everything you see on that video? You cant buy loyalty, look what cost Lakers to fulfill Lebron demands and that for a bubble ring and probably a lot of mediocre years after he will leave them. Compare Lebron to Jordan from financial perspective, how much more money Jordan bring than Lebron to a franchise. Other point, we talking about Bulls dynasty, Spurs dynasty, Warriors dynasty, Lakers dynasty. What dynasty Lebron was part of?You can go on and on and conclusion is simple - only crazy fans will pick up Lebron over mention players if you want to build a succesfull dynasty

Probably because he hand picks his teams and teammates mortgages the teams future and leaves the franchise in ruins when he departs. All of this crying and Le GM stuff and still hasnt caught Kobe or Jordan who stayed put through highs and lows. Also Steph has tied him while also staying put and riding out the down seasons instead of crying and going somewhere easier.

@Enokha

3 ай бұрын

my guy you sound so right, he should've stayed in cleveland another 8 more years lmaoooo

@zakibey7

3 ай бұрын

How does he mortgage the teams feature? Please explain when he left Miami. They still had Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosch when he left Cleveland he made sure his contract was finished and he was a free agent. It’s not his fault that the owner Dan Gilbert didn’t want to get LeBron any help and spend money to get good free agents You people are idiots and when he left Cleveland for the second time, remember Kyrie left first and LeBron stayed and the end up loosing in the finals to gsw also when he left that team, they still had Kevin Love and a bunch of role players once again not LeBron‘s fault. Remember, they even got Derrick Rose and Dwyane Wade on that team at one point in time and when he went to the Lakers, he got Anthony Davis

@ErnieIthier

3 ай бұрын

@@Enokhathat’s exactly what he should’ve done, especially if he’s “the GOAT” MJ, Kobe and Steph included would’ve made the team around them better at Cleveland, unlike Lebron, who clearly needed to join super Teams like Miami to get his first 2 rings LOL

@lormingo5259

3 ай бұрын

@@ErnieIthierthey just love being blind to lebrons nonsense

@ice843

3 ай бұрын

@@ErnieIthieryep far more props to bring it home Ie Jordan Kobe Steph Duncan bird magic Leaving to get it shows a lack of leadership qualities

"We don't work on flopping" might get turned into the new kawhi laugh💀

Thank you! Include the times he has quit a play & game & didn't go down the court due to complaining!

@DamianTTC

Күн бұрын

AMEN!

The kwahi laugh is crazy 😂

"I felt like they fouled, and we didn't" 🗿 😂😂😂

@alfasiger4178

10 күн бұрын

That right there made him the greatest player of all time

bro, that kawhi laugh is something else 😂😂😂

Good video, but at 4:55 you say he misses free throws (which is true,) but the clip is of him purposely missing a free throw.

Lebron era is a Flag Basketball and NOT even closed to Mikes grown ass man defense.

That one with Jimmy Butler Leflop was just glitching in the matrix 😂😂😂 shit took me out nobody was even close to him.

@jordansoviet23

2 ай бұрын

He learned that delayed flop from PBA's Mick Pennisi. Just look Mick Pennisi delayed flop video and you'll see it.

2:50 The disembodied laugh of Kawhi Leonard with reverb killed me. LMAO!

“Even the commentators was in distress”😂

ALL FACTS. GREAT CONTENT. THANK YOU.

5:00 Kawhi laugh is very intoxicating! 😂

The Kawhi laugh😂😂

@jonathanm1740

3 ай бұрын

"Hee-hawww-ha-ha...."

He's also a top 10 traveller , captain 4 step and ones, and gave himself his nickname... never sat well

@user-cn8nu6lq4w

2 ай бұрын

#1 turnover king

I want to frame this. 4:18 his foots is on the line. They are both looking at the same thing. The ref gives him a fathers 'what are you talking about son' this is a 2 look.

I agree w what you're saying, but you did him dirty at 4:55 lol

There is a portion of his fanbase that i call the "hater brigade" that has slowly made me resent him over the years. Those fans that respond to any (fair or unfair) criticism by calling someone a hater. They'll often try to dismiss any criticism by saying he's more talented, rich, and successful than you. You have to be a 6 time nba champion to criticize him for flopping. He's a great player, and there are lots of cool lebron fans. Having a different opinion doesnt make you stupid or my enemy. Its not fair to generalize all lebron fans. Its just that obnoxious vocal portion of his fanbase that's made me slowly start resenting him. Partly anyway, there is still all the stuff mentioned in the video.

@jasonwebb5964

2 ай бұрын

Jordan is more talented, rich, and successful than me yet I call him the goat. So their argument falls apart right there.

@Joshua-fz5zx

2 ай бұрын

@jasonwebb5964 I watched some videos on Jordan after you said this. I forgot how much of a monster he was. Lebron just doesn't have that killer instinct like him. As a Mavs fan, I've seen flashes of it in Luka. That playoff series against the Suns, for example. He'll periodically turn it on. Not that i compare Luka to lebron or Jordan. I'm not that delusional. 😂

the fact that a team with lebron wasnt the most dominant team says it all tbf

@avengerkill809

3 ай бұрын

Hello, Miami heat back to back rings? Against actual dynasty and a super team? Typical warriors fan boy no basketball knowledge.

@remnant8898

3 ай бұрын

@@avengerkill809 Miami still was not the most dominant or even top 10 all time with those back to back chips. OKC wasn't close to being a super team, and it took them 7 games to beat a team lead by a 36 way past his prime Duncan, 35 year old Manu and pup in Kawhi. Its ironic that you would say someone doesn't have basketball knowledge with your bad take.....

@avengerkill809

3 ай бұрын

@@remnant8898 ya gsw bandwagons truly don't know basketball. "A way past his prime Duncan". That year Duncan was first team all NBA, 2nd team all defense. Pup kawhi was a top 10 defender that year, how can I know that well maybe his 2nd team all defensive selection, or dpoy the following season. That spurs team alone had more hall famers than the teams MJ faced in the finals combined. Plus 2012-2013 heat is a top 10 team of all time. Ya KZreadr kids who started watching yesterday really don't know basketball.

@1vaultdweller

3 ай бұрын

Isnt that a team accomplishment? Why would a single individual get credit for how good his team is? You guys are awfully defensive of/against superteams when it fits your narrative

@remnant8898

3 ай бұрын

@@1vaultdweller one moment, people are calling Bron a 4x champ, the next minute when his Finals record is considered, its now a team accomplishment. How about being consistent in your argument?

He said he has to make flopping a serious part of his game 😮 should have shown that clip 😂😂😂

The laugh of kawhi lenard made me smile

I'd also keep him out of the goat conversation as he plays a completely different game with different rules. Be interesting to see how many rings and records he'd have if he was called like everyone else. No one else gets away with his level of flopping, travelling, offensive fouling not being called and verbally abusing the refs without getting a tech.

@projoebiochem

2 ай бұрын

To be fair, Shaq did exceed LaBron in the traveling and fouling department. Shaq’s go-to move consisted of “travel-charge-travel-dunk”, so LaBron might have a rival there.

@Bobsyagod

2 ай бұрын

@@projoebiochem I'm not advocating anyone breaking rules. But at least Shaq's travels were relatively small and close to the basket, Lebron somehow gets away with bouncing once from half way

I’m sorry if it wasn’t for Draymond Green getting suspended the Cavs never would have came back from that 3-1 deficit plus Lebron needed Kyrie to go off.

@ThorGodofThunder420

3 ай бұрын

And let's not forget that just about every analyst in TV believed it should have been a double T and move on. Everybody but Brian "LeBrons best friend" Windhorst.

@ryanamburgy2791

3 ай бұрын

Not the Cavs fault Draymond is a moron

@dewman7477

3 ай бұрын

@@JomarJohnsonMJ greater than LeBron you bronsexual

@Z-gotsoles

3 ай бұрын

That’s a work from silver.,he helped lebron..total bias..they suspended dray after game 4 of the finals and the cause were dray kicked the nuts of an okc player during wcf..that’s a made championship

@trick1809

3 ай бұрын

“Would’ve” “could’ve” 🤡🤡🤡

lol love Skap Attack's videos of Lestatpad.

the thing is he wasn't asked if they "work on flopping" weak sidestep

I agree sportsmanship is part of the goat debate, and that deducts some points for him.

Because Curry beat him 3 out of 4 times in the Finals? Or because so many other players won Mvps and rings during Lebrons time in the league? Dirk, Kobe, KG, Curry, KD, Jokic, Giannis, Kawhi, Duncan etc

@remnant8898

3 ай бұрын

Both. But in my opinion, it worse when you have your only real rival who's beat you 75% of the times you've competed for the chip.

@theawoken7914

3 ай бұрын

So no one won rings while Jordon was in the league

@TheGuyRelic

3 ай бұрын

Curry was the sidekick of those 3 finals wins

@zainakram6908

3 ай бұрын

@@theawoken7914Celtics, Lakers, Pistons, Rockets, and Spurs all won during Jordan’s time

@theawoken7914

3 ай бұрын

@@zainakram6908 thank you

Showed a guilty mind by denying something he wasn’t accused of. Was asked if the Lakers flopped; replied “Uh, we don’t work on flopping.” This is like randomly going up to a cop in the street and saying, “I didn’t knock over the convenience store at 10th and Main.”

Would love to have seen the 80s Pistons respond to the flopster.

If Kobe would still be alive today, he would probably laugh and bonk Leflop James for shaming the LakeShow so much.

@Babeoftheabyss

Ай бұрын

We don't respect lebron in LA. He will never have the respect and admiration Kobe has. Wish he'd leave

damn that warriors v lakers game done pulled his last straw

@avengerkill809

3 ай бұрын

He hasn't stop crying since then

LeBron has not faced tougher competition in the finals. Jordan just beat all his tough competition.

7:51 MJ didn't "face stiff competition in the playoffs like LeBron did" is because MJ and the Bulls were that competition

@fherdiliciouzfherdz1525

Ай бұрын

Ahhm what year are you talking about? I've seen mj n d bulls since 84. And where is Chicago on the competition in the 80s?

@mr.1up489

Ай бұрын

Agreed. Once Jordan reached his prime he neutralized some very good teams...and back then the playoffs were tougher bc each team presented a different, unique play style.

@mr.1up489

Ай бұрын

It's as if Kemp, Malone, Ewing weren't as dominant on the post as Curry's lower percentage threes😂

@theformulated1

Ай бұрын

Teams in the 90's were stacked with great players. Magic: Shaq, Penny, Nick Anderson, 3-D Dennis Scott, even had Horace Grant. Knicks: Ewing, Starks, Houston, Oakley, Mason Heat: Morning, Tim Hardaway, Vernon Maxwell, Dan Marley Pacers: R. Miller, Smitts, Mark Rose. The west was stacked too. The NBA on NBC in the 90's was fire with matchups.

@theformulated1

Ай бұрын

Chicago in the 80's couldn't get past Larry Bird.... once he retired, Chicago was able to shine. Larry himself held down a dynasty team.

We don’t work on flopping it’s only me who takes acting classes

@JayzoTheNextKobeBryant2.0

3 ай бұрын

Yo LeBron James Wanna Be Actor That's Why He Be Flopping

@derrickfraley8750

3 ай бұрын

😏, IT,READS like he wants to be into CLOWN ACTING!🤔

@cN-xv7ju

3 ай бұрын

An if u paying for lessons u should ask for u money bac 😂

@macvergado8344

3 ай бұрын

What i see in this video is that the creator of this is the one crying hahahah

@user-ip5dm6jf8k

2 ай бұрын

Hey, it's LA, everybody acts. Lbj is a consumste actor.

The greatest leading scorer in history is Michael Jordan: *10x scoring champ and 30.5 ppg.* MJ has in his career 127.5 points per 100 possessions, LBJ 115.0. The point total is determined by the number of seasons and games played. LeBron has 1751 games played and 47866 total points, Michael 1251 games and 38279. If MJ had played 1751 with an average of 30.5 ppg he would have scored about 53405 points.

About LBJ flopping 7:18 : ".. in fact, he often spends more time on the floor than.. Giannis to finish his free throw routine.." This was Dave Chappelle level comedy gold.

NBA needs to make flopping a technical Review the play, if player flops from no foul or contact, T him up If player does it again, he's out

Leonard laugh gets me everytime 😂

I think scoring stats should be percentage of score of the game. This will minimize the effect of rule changes. Scoring 25 in a game score of 90 is more impressive than 25 in a game with a score of 140.

like he said many times it's just basketball at the end of the day it's just basketball forgetting the men women and kids living and loving basketball 🏀

It's the kawhi Leonard laugh for me 😅😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣

Lebron has a guy in the league now dominating him since 2015. Stephen Curry. Kobes ended like 2012. Lebron had 3 years of the league being his

@maximuskhan2100

3 ай бұрын

This is true.

The points are truly irrelevant since the new modern version of the league doesn't allow defense. These players are a joke compared to the past. No defense, flopping deluxe, whine to refs to kick out fans who hurt their feelings, softest players in the history of basketball. No current players even in the conversation about the GOAT.

@HoopReports

3 ай бұрын

Anthony Edwards is on the right track.

@gtddark232

3 ай бұрын

You’re brain dead if you think these players aren’t the best the league has ever seen and are objectively wrong

@avengerkill809

3 ай бұрын

@@gtddark232 man these kids are KZreadrs and tik tokers, they don't know anything about actual basketball. This hoopcut guy still salty about the Lakers spanking the warriors the other day and still crying about it 🤣.

@Frogbutt145

3 ай бұрын

@gtddark232 No I'm old enough to have seen the league before it was gutted defensively. The players now are soft, the previous players shut up hecklers with their play not crying to refs. Also Jordan, Bird, Magic, etc.. didn't want to play with each other, wanted to dominate them. Now just build a super team and play with the players you can't beat. You sir are speaking with limited knowledge.

@handsomeflakker6207

3 ай бұрын

@@avengerkill809Wait till the tables turn buddy, oh wait might not happen because lebron is the golden boy of the NBA and can do no wrong. He is a saint. Gtfo , what goes around comes around ☝🏽👇🏽 also lebron ain’t gonna let you hit , so there no need to suck him up

DANGERproductions, here on KZread, has the absolute best comparison video between the 2. By the end of it, there's no denying who the GOAT is. None whatsoever. My 1 and only complaint about it is the GOAT comparison should be MJ vs Kobe.

As a lover of the game, I use to get into the goat debate a lot until realizing that the "Goat" debate will always be subjective to who you watched and who you like more but also there are so many different eras to crown a overall goat. So I just do it by era and the resume they created in the era or just based off position because trying to compare this era to the 2010s era, compare the 2010s to the 2000s era it just so many factors because while we've seen players last long into other eras, it was also towards the tail end of their career verse seeing prime Jordan in 03, prime Kobe in 2010s etc. Jordan is the goat of the 90s. Kobe is the goat of the 2000s, LeBron is the goat of the 2010s. 2020s is a tie between Giannis and Jokic but if Jokic wins his 3rd MVP & second ring, hell pass Giannis as the Goat of the 2020s

It is pretty smart to have a 1-3 minute break on the floor sometimes xD

@deanthelemur1716

3 ай бұрын

lmao never thought of that

@SmoothJK

2 ай бұрын

I thought the same as I saw him resting there lol

Bro literally load manages during games all the while stat padding by camping near basket for defensive rebounds... What a sad 'superstar'. 😤😤

@HoopReports

3 ай бұрын

Couldn't have said it better my man 🙌

@avengerkill809

3 ай бұрын

​@@HoopReportssalty your bandwagon warriors keep getting smoked by the Lakers 🤣 make another video crying about it 😂😂.

@kauffamn1016

3 ай бұрын

@@avengerkill809fanboy alert . Delusional kiddie

@dvdv8197

3 ай бұрын

@@avengerkill809 refs keep beating Warriors. Lakers never beat the Warriors.

@avengerkill809

3 ай бұрын

@@dvdv8197 yeah it was the refs that packed your bags in the playoffs and sent you straight to Cancun right 🤣🤣. Let's pretend I didn't see curry getting cooked by the Lakers bench warmers like looney Walker and Austin Reaves. Ya better find a new team to hop on, the bandwagon franchise been over

Dude what bag are you referring to? What’s his go to move?

@hassanorr9078

2 ай бұрын

Brons only go to move (other than the step back 3 he hopes to go in) is his patented pull the ball back and go full steam to the basket and run ppl over, while somehow never receiving a charge call. Instead usually a blocking foul is called, if the player doesn't just move completely out of the way.

@Johnwilliams11047

15 күн бұрын

@@hassanorr9078 if that was to be true, That’s no where close to MJs or Kobe’s bag, lol