With Capture One's release of 16.3.4 around Jan 19, when you use the Subject and Background AI's and copy to other images, it now recalculates the masks.

@kanaheiusagi

4 ай бұрын

took them long enough for a subscription model/license model costing 2-3x of LR

I’ve been using C1 since 2016. I chose it because it was the closest in ease of use to Apple’s Aperture. The colour control and RAW translations are second to none. Even with the odd niggle, I could never consider any other software. My partner uses Lightroom and I do shake my head at what’s missing. Having said that, I believe we should all use the tools that work for us. If LR works better for your work, that’s awesome. Again, nicely scripted and presented Dunna. I’ve used your videos to help me create my own on my new channel. 🙏

@VisualMasterpiece

4 ай бұрын

I did that exact same. RIP Aperture :( that program still its heads above both LR and C1 imo; especially bushes (feather brush anyone?) and its speed of use overall.. oh and stacks ugh and organizations.. so much better. WTF APPLE?

@Harvester88

2 ай бұрын

@@VisualMasterpiece I recently got into photo editing on Apple and have been using Pixelmator Pro. I tried Photomator but it feels half baked.

I literally just watched the old video and didn't realize until halfway through that it was 2 years old. I filtered the results and here were are. Thanks for sharing the journey

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Haha you got to see time compressed!

I’m sticking with C1 as someone who loved Photoshop but never used LR (used Apple Aperture) I migrated to Affinity years ago and chose C1 last year for the catalog and organizational capabilities. I’m not a pro photographer just an enthusiast that shoots Fujifilm, so for me C1 made sense.

Good stuff! I'm excited to hear more about your results of the new LR =>LRC workflow!

Great video, Dunna! I like that you are open to using what is best, not just brand loyalty. Lightroom and Illustrator are 2 Adobe products I haven't been able to shed just yet lol.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Heck yeah! I just want to use the best tools **FOR ME** at any given time!

I have both packages but switched my main editing to Capture One in December 2020. Periodically I carry out some back to back edits using the same RAW files. For me, the results i get from Capture One are always better with more pleasing and natural renders than I get from LR and, at the end of the day, it is all about the quality of the final image, not necessarily how you get there.

@dunnadidit

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! I agree that the final result is super important. I found I get really great results with both programs so then HOW I get there makes a big difference for me, my time management and what I'm able to do. Do you ever run into the issue with capture one where the "fit to window" preview is slightly blurry? That drove me nuts... as soon as I zoom in a bit, it's fine, but that fit to window preview made things look like they were out of focus.

@SwanSycorax

3 ай бұрын

@@dunnadidit No, I haven't had that issue. I run a twin screen system based on an Apple M1 processor MacBook Pro with 64GB RAM and a 4TB internal SSD with a 27" additional display. In C1 I edit on the 27" display and have the catalogue open on the MacBook screen. Performance is superb. For me one of the biggest benefits of Capture One is the speed at which Collections work and the multi-layered keywords. My image library is in a single catalogue with almost every image sorted via the collections and keywords so that I can find what I want very quickly righty across the database. I used to do a similar thing in Lightroom but I found the collections to be really slow. I am really pleased with the most recent updates to Capture One but essentially, it is the renders the software gives me that are better than I get from LR and that image quality is the ultimate deciding factor.

@JohnBubba

9 күн бұрын

i actually have the oposite experience. capture one is faster but the colors for some reason are just weird and not to my liking. lightroom gives me the better color.

Always keen to hear how you use the combination of Lightroom and Lightroom Classic - as you develop those tricks please keep us up-to-date.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Okay! One more vote for a video about that!

The one thing I can't live without is the similar image culling option in capture one. Having all the same photos grouped together saves sooo much time. I can find the best pic of a shot and then move to the next scene.

@janloncaric3621

Күн бұрын

What? Can you elaborate please, want to hear more

As a live music photographer the denoise feature in LR has been a game changer. I can really push the ISO and still come up with an incredible photo.

@USGrant21st

3 ай бұрын

LR always was and still is behind when it comes to noise reduction. I've been using DXO PR/3 for several years and it does a lot better work than LR and faster too.

Oh my gosh! I just did the same thing!! For my portrait editing the remove and heel tools in LR are so much better than C1. The huge thing I’ll miss in C1 is the culling. I loved how that worked.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

I definitely feel that! LR is a decent amount slower to scroll through photos. So if you’re someone who moves quickly to get things done that might be a pain point!

I’ve been using Capture One since version 8. I started with their Sony exclusive version as I was only shooting with Sony cameras. When I added a DJI Air2s to my lineup of gear I made the switch to full version of Capture One which happened shortly before they forced all brand specific versions to go the route of full Capture One. I added a DJI Air3 to my gear set and now all of a sudden I am finding that in Capture One that the raw files on it open with a “bloom” spot in the middle of the image that is brighter and of a warmer white balance than the rest of the image for the wider camera on the drone. I didn’t have this problem with the Air2s, just a minor adjustment to fix some vignetting to use the full sensor. A friend that uses Lightroom has no issues with the files when I sent them a couple to try out for me. Apparently Capture One doesn’t have a lens correction for DJI drones and has been a problem for other users for several other of their drones for quite a while. I guess I’m just lucky the Air2s didn’t have that bloom problem for me to have noticed this lack of a lens correction. So I chimed in my support for wanting a correction but was brushed off about it. Seeking out some help with more advanced Capture One users basically I need to counteract the vignetting issue and create a radial mask to compensate for the blooming to create a new base line image then just create a new layer on top to then do all my edits. But I am finding this to be a pain in the butt because it slows down my workflow considerably. I’ve never been tempted to switch away from Capture One but this might be a significant reason why I do switch as the drone is becoming a bigger part of my photography.

I'm a bit confused about the comments regarding C1 Styles vs LR Presets. The workflow is nearly identical, expect C1 gives you the additional capability to apply it as a layer with its own opacity and ability to edit further. But if you want to apply a style directly to a layer or your background image, you just click on it exactly like you would in LR. I do agree about the UI of LR, though. It's a lot easier to use than C1. I'm torn. I like features of both and I really need to pick one. Like you, I *really* miss the skin tone cool from C1 when I'm using LR. And I also miss the layers. However, all that capability is a two-edged sword for me. In C1, I tend to over-edit my photos because it's so incredibly easy to do it. I sometimes end up losing depth to my photos in a way that's hard to describe. It just ends up looking flattened somehow and my only guess is that it's due to over processing and messing up contrast or something. I do this much less often if I stick to LR. In both cases, I still also need to make a round trip through Photoshop anyway. I seriously need to just pick one and streamline my workflow.

Watching this as I’m looking for a Lightroom Alternative. Watched the video you made switching to C1

@dunnadidit

4 күн бұрын

Haha and I reserve my right to change my mind whenever I’d like 😂😂😂 but for real, if you’re looking for a LR alternative, C1 is still great. I’ve definitely missed parts of it since moving back to LR this time.

@OkuhleNtshweni

4 күн бұрын

@@dunnadidit thank you so much for your feedback. I will wait out my year subscription from my photography plan (Lightroom and Photoshop). So I have a few more months left. Looking to switch to Affinity and C1. This was a great and informative video. Thank you so much again.

@philenforce

3 күн бұрын

@@OkuhleNtshweni It's so funny because friends of mine were discussing alternative to LR due to Adobe's policy changes, then out of curiosity I KZread'd "Lightroom vs Capture One" and legit the first two videos come from Dunnadidit transitioning back and forth hahahahaha

It was the copy/paste sync edits that did it for me, that made my workflow so much faster and smoother. Plus I regularly use presets from you, FroKnowsPhoto, Manny Ortiz etc, so that's nice too.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Yeah I hear this! Glad to hear my presets are still coming in handy! I really need to make an updated pack… 2019 is a long time ago!

@USGrant21st

3 ай бұрын

Definitely presets and sync-ed editing is a time saver. One important thing though is missing in LR. When you need to adjust WB you have to do it individually with every image. LR can only assign the same temperature/tint to selection, but it doesn't allow to proportionally warm up or cool down multiple images.

Omg exactly my thoughts after using C1 for two weeks! Adobe is a powerhouse that is hard to beat. The only advantage of C1 for me is great build in tethering capabilities

I guess we will see you back in CaptureOne in two years.

Since you used capture one did you face a problem with the blurry view images especially when they are in fit view?

Hi: Thanks for creating and sharing this video. I was previously a LrC user but I migrated over to C1 last summer. I shoot on an Sony A7Riv and I find that C1 simply renders the RAW images better. Think that fact the C1 does a much better job on properly matching the Camera/Lens profiles to the image vs. LrC's awkward process of having to download individual Camera RAW profiles. Cheers, Keith

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing Keith!

The one thing I absolutely love about Capture One is the iPad app. It streamlined my workflow SOOOO much. I import directly from camera and do my culling before uploading photos to the mac. Sometimes, if in a hurry and don't need nothing advanced (which is most of the time, since I'm not a professional), I do all the corrections there too.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

I love that! Glad to hear you found a great workflow for you!

@aleksandrmikhailov3255

3 ай бұрын

Yeah, and no app for Android users 😂

@ajphelps16

3 ай бұрын

Question. How are you importing the photos to your Mac from your iPad. I have an unused 1tb external that I imagined all I had to do was transfer my photos to there than from the external to my laptop but I’m hearing that’s not going to work?

@tomazzaman

3 ай бұрын

@@ajphelps16 airdrop.

Thanks for an interesting video. Each program has its advantages. For studio work, C1 has superior tethering and C1-Live, which is a very cool way of collaborating on a studio shoot.

Really curious about this dual use of Light room CC you're calling it and classic. How that works with file management.

Dunna I had the same issues you face in C1 and for the same reason I kept going back to lightroom. And yes, I miss the same things in C1. You mentioned the xmp file in lightroom CC. You can create those in classic too, you need to tick a check mark = Lightroom > Catalog Settings > Metadata Those files can also be created by C1 and they open up in both softwares, but not with all settings transferred though. One more advantage for Lightroom, in my opinion, is the seamless workflow transition from desktop to mobile (or iPad). The smart preview is a life saver too!

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Thats a great tip! Though creating the XMP wasn't necessarily the important point about what I was saying there, it was more about importing the settings after so that I could work between CC and Classic almost like Sessions and Catalogues in C1. That seems to be something a lot of commenters want a bit more detail on so I'll probably make a video on that soon!

@lensbrew

4 ай бұрын

​@@dunnadidit Sounds great! May I also recommend you mention the advantage of smart previews when the original files are missing, yet the settings are synced and exporting produces a "very good" quality file. It gave me the advantage to export and deliver images on the spot while far away from my office.

I have done mostly the same as you. I have used capture one for many years. Lately I switch back to Lightroom cloud and I upload my best photos to the cloud and use the local pretty much as you use a session in Capture one. I am very happy with my workflow now. Lightroom is much faster to use and the masks is better and more precise.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Love that!

I just went through the exercise of moving from Lightroom Classic to Capture One, partly for the Sessions and Catalog bit, and partly for the layers. In the end I am staying with Lightroom for similar reasons as you. I’d love for you to do a detailed video or write down how you’re working between LR Classic and Lightroom. That seems like it would work better than my current approach of using Catalogs like sessions and then merging (the two computer workflow that looks like you’re using as well).

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

I totally hear you! I will definitely add you down as another vote for the "sessions" workflow video.

Hope you do a follow up on that workaround for lightroom! Could you do a little tutorial style update, when you feel like you tested enough? :)

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

I’ll definitely consider it!

If your doing portraits or product photography in a studio with tethering. Who has the better live view?

having used Lightroom since v1 and moved to capture one end of last year. Capture one finally puts the enjoyment back into photo editing. Lightroom just became slow and cumbersome to use. Once I’d learnt Capture one shortcuts I was flying. It’s helped by having a great support and community. I contacted them at first on a few issues and had respondes from the dev in a few hours who actually knew what he was talking about and wasn’t an automated response . Imagine that from Adobe, being helpful. Doesn’t happen.

@dunnadidit

3 ай бұрын

I was thinking about this the other day. Maybe I just like switching because it makes things exciting again! I remember being so excited to switch to capture one and how I got back into photography again when I did. And here I am doing it again the other way lol.

@johnw65uk

3 ай бұрын

@@dunnadidit I just found even after reinstalling Lightroom it was just not as fast as capture one. Especially when it comes to browsing my library of photos.

Hey everyone, Im just starting out as an amateur music gig photographer and am trying to figure out the best editing software for me. Lightroom and Capture One seem to be the most talked about so I found this video super helpful 👍

@dunnadidit

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching!

What's your opinion on the new T&C from Adobe? I'm looking at Lr/Ps alternatives, cuz of it, as have manyothers.. I'm rying CaptureOne & On1Photo RAW 2024 currently. Thanks in advance!

Started with darktable as it is free and cross platform capable (I have a Linux Desktop that was my primary daily driver). Now that I have a Macbook Pro, and also for a lot of the reasons you specified in the video I'm starting to become more tempted to jump over to Lightroom CC. darktable is powerful but I think I'm kind of hitting my max attention span on a lot of my edits now (I'm finding myself not really needing to edit so much in my latest shots, so its actually more straight forward for me to switch to Lightroom in terms of a workflow process). The tools are stupidly powerful in darktable which has been why I've stayed with it for so long but I'm also the type of person that also needs to switch up every once and awhile.

Great info. I am in my first trial period of C1 and I'm trying to decide if it will work for me. For main portrait work, I think my workflow in LR to PS works well and I'm too old to learn new tricks. :) BUT... I got Capture One specifically for tethering, and I love how much easier it is. In my opinion, LR could step that up a bit and we'd be a lot happier. To each his own...

Make a whole Walkthrough of you editing 2 or 3 different Photos to show your workflow with Lightroom. That would be interesting to see I think. Not seeing a Guide on how to do this and that, but your actual thoughts on what you think about doing and how you get there, you know? You won't get eveything perfect the first time. Would be nice to see how you deal with adjusting everything as you and the whole process. And what tools you use, how you use them, with out going into too much detail about the inner workings of that tool. I just got Lightroom literally a few days ago after using a freeware called "RawTherapee" for a few years. I feel comfortable in Lightroom immediatly, but I bet there a features and workflow optimisations I just do not know about yet. Maybe I could learn a bit from you if you decide to make a Video like that :)

I switched back to LR too after more than 3 years with C1. I think the PE firm who bought Phase 1 have squandered any advantage C1 had over LR. It will be interesting to see if C1 even survives. They just announced they were making significant employee layoffs.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Interesting! I hadn't heard any of that.

Agreed. I’ve tried C1 a few times over the years and s while the RAW interpretation is better out of the gate with C1, everything else is better and more intuitive with LR. And I’ve been using LR since 1.0, so I know it well.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Yeah this is the tricky thing. You have to balance what is most important to you!

I also went to Capture One some years ago but the reasons you mentioned would not bring me to leave CO again. But the fact that they discontinued Sony Edition is really a bad ...

Great video. I go back and forth, but to me Capture One's raw processing is unparalleled, even better than PhotoLab 7. Their auto adjustments feature is pretty amazing as well, and I like how I can customize the workspace to my heart's content....which is hard to do in LR.

So I assume you prefer classic? I’ve tried using classic a few time but i find the syncing to be so much worse there

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, there are still a couple things in classic that I prefer. Mostly, the actual catalogue/filter/sorting setup itself I find better. But it's VERY close now.

I use both, when I need absolute best image quality and totally control, I’ll use C1. When I need something done somewhat decently but quickly like my family photos, I’ll use Lightroom. They both have strengths and weaknesses.

Now I have an idea of what Dunna would look like as Hellboy!

Synchronicity. I am in the middle of a similar transition. I started using C1 two years ago, and loved your videos on it. And now I'm leaning back toward Bridge/ACR/LrC. I just wish LrC/ACR would add a feature like the Refine Mask… tool in C1. I also wish I could make a giant curves tool like I can in C1. But all roads are leading me back into the Adobe world.

@jason.coward

4 ай бұрын

I am using Bridge/ACR as a "session" proxy in the Adobe world, FWIW.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

There's a lot of give and take isn't there! My video talked about the main things I think about but there are so many little teeeeeeny things that, if used a lot over time, they really add up!

please keep us up to date on that lightroom cc “session” to lightroom classic workflow!

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

I definitely will! Consider that another vote for a video on that topic!

I use CaptureOne Pro for the tethering capabilities, skin tone tool, layers feels more like photoshop and honestly, the colour is so much better coming out of Capture than Lightroom. I like to work in sessions, it just makes more sense to me. I don't care about denoise, and any retouching I do is done is photoshop. The only thing that I don't like about CaptureOne is that it is very expensive, that is where Adobe has a huge advantage

I’d like to see more on how to use the point color, it is confusing to me compared to Capture One which is more intuitive to me. A video on that would help. Thanks for your video it provides substance for comparison when on the fence deciding between these two apps.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Definitely gonna do that!

@drwatsonismine

4 ай бұрын

@@dunnadidit great! Thanks.

I hear that C1 handles Fuji files much better. I changed from Canon 5DMK3 to a Fuji GFX S 50II. I use tethered shooting on location, and color production is very important to me. I have always worked with LR, but changing to a new camera I'm considering to change to C1.

@LelleKidd

11 күн бұрын

It is the X-Trans sensors that cause problems for some editors, the GSX models use Bayer sensors, which should not be a problem for Lightroom. However, Lightroom has gotten better at X-Trans lately.

How do you feel about it now with the latest user agreement drama?

The improvements the last 2 years in Lightroom are decent! Wish they would add focus stacking though.

Capture one trial was ending in a week. Wasn’t completely bought in. This video came at the perfect time

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Love when that happens!

I work with both and agree auto masking in LR is better. However, I just can’t leave speed editing capability that C1 offers. This means I actually edit photos almost entirely using mouse/keyboard (without moving and following the mouse-if you know, you know ;) )

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Haha in the past month, if I had a nickel for every time I tried to use the speed editing features by accident and pulled up some random tool I would be a rich man.

@MikeLeski

4 ай бұрын

@@dunnadidit , exactly the same here :) me and you both :)

Good stuff....I have been using Luminar Neo because its easy and has a lot of great AI features. I will say Adobe has been tempting because I have been loving a lot of their new AI features. I use it for photoshop all the time.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

That was one that I considered for sure! I've still got an old Luminar 4 license but I haven't tried the newer ones!

For me the massive LR catalog is still a deal killer. The portability of C1 Sessions makes working as a traveling photographer so much easier. Add to that the advantages of managing storage and cloud synchronization with smaller logical units of work (Sessions) and I decided about 6 months ago to stay with C1. But I agree with the functional advantages you pointed out for LRCC. I also don’t trust Adobe to keep LRC. I think they will push us all to cloud based.

I hated Lightroom from Day 1 and use C1 for years now, because of the horrible performance of lightroom, but you make some good points here. Maybe worth checking Lightroom one more time.

Lightroom, in my opinion, has a big deficiency. Huge. The shortcut keys for editing photos. With LR I am forced to use the mouse to change exposure, contrast, shadows... blah blah blah! With C1 they can vary every parameter from the keyboard without ever using the mouse. This is worth much more to me than Ai masks which I rarely use. The editing speed is 100 times faster than LR for me, for the way I work. LR presets are missing in C1, but using Fujifilm I love the film simulations which work better on C1, raw files are also processed much better. I created my own styles and that's okay.

CO just works x10 faster on my machine (ryzen 9, rtx 3080, 32gb RAM), also speed edit is a killer feature in CO, initial colors are better in CO for Sony cameras. Lightroom has better AI functionality but it's just unusable when you need to quickly edit 1000 vacation photos 😅

First point you can absolutely do in C1. Second one is definitely an area that C1 needs to catch up on it only understands subject and background. However the number of times I have to adjust the mask makes this a moot point FOR ME (I saw it on your video 1:41 the subject masking did something weird under your right foot!). Intersecting masks and being able to cut one mask from another would be so cool! On point 2 as I said I just don't trust any of the masks to do it right and as nice as it might be to copy past adjustments (C1 is going there too) BTW not true that C1 will paste over your previous mask - for subject and Background it recalculates them but not reliably matching my expectations. AI noise would be great built-in. I use DXO but C1 is horribly clunky with using external software and DXO massively expands the files due to de-mozaicing. I am hugely jealous of the calibration tools. Presets.... I have so many for various programs, like the idea BUT I find I never use them. Ease of use - I did a trial of Adobe software and after 30 minutes I had uninstalled it just doesn't work the way I do - as you say it is a subjective thing. Photoshop thing trickling down - I get this. especially content aware fill etc anything that keeps me away from PS is a good thing that software is so unintuitive for me. Sessions & catalogs - nice to hear someone gets the differentiation! At the end of the day I'm sure they are both great tools and it is a matter of taste as to how well one fits your workflow (and how flexible you are about your workflow). I applaud your ability to go back and forth - as I said I tried Photoshop (I was a regular user until they switched to subscription and never would have changed until they switched their licencing model) having tried C1 I find I can do edits so fast I just find it hard to switch back. Great video.

@dunnadidit

2 ай бұрын

These are great points and additions! Thanks for your thoughts! As to the point about recalculating the masks... apparently that was something that got fixed right after I filmed this whole thing but before I posted it but I didn't catch it in time haha. Thats how these things go I guess! Cheers!

@Andrey.Balandin

2 ай бұрын

As for cutting one mask out of another in C1, you can sort of replicate this feature by copying mask from one layer to another and inverting it. For example you create a subject mask and you adjust it and then you copy it to another layer and invert it to get your background mask

It is so funny to watch those videos and see how ridiculous sometimes companies like adobe designs their multimillion programs like Lightroom to don’t have actually intuitive layer systems and then I look at my preferred editing program, Davinci resolve, which is based on a nondestructive node system and I have all the tools of all those programs in one, and it is even that much cheaper than both of them. The only thing that’s missing is the advanced masking tools what’s unfortunate, but the price to to performance ratio is just so much better compared to any photo editor out there. Most of all considered how damn expensive they are.

I personally use lightroom, i love the mobile version and helps allot with editing on the go without having to whip out my laptop or go to my computer to edit

The masking edits have been fixed in C1 in the latest update, but of course one must have a subscription in order to update…

Number one reason not to go back to lightroom: LR catalog system. Working with file based sessions is just the better and more logical way for me. Easy to do backups, no bloated database is one of the main reasons to use C1 over LR. And, as mentioned in the video, for a portrait photographer at least, the color editor with skin tone editor has just become an essetial tool. Also C1 AI masking is much superior to LR and works better for me. Btw in the latest version you can copy AI masks for Background and Subject isolation :)

6:05 this is the reason number one, why i stuck on lightroom. The GUI is so simple and clean. Caputure one have too much panels and buttons.

But I think capture one is better

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

That’s cool! Use whatever you think works best for you!

@fejulegacy

3 ай бұрын

C1 fits for me also better 😊

@PMP77

2 ай бұрын

I've used lightroom for years, and for studio work I just tried out capture one for the first time this month. Skin tones and generally the way the photo comes out of camera seems way better in capture one. I was actually shocked by how much better it looks right out of camera. Seems like now seeing this that I guess lightroom converts the photo format to something other then raw and it affects the image.

While LR is a slightly creepy smart kid, C1 has Asperger's with all the attendant pedantism.

Initially, I was impressed by the features of Capture One. However, even on my high-end Windows PC I got too many crashes and freezes. This was about a year ago. At the time, I don't believe Capture One was keeping up with the top end graphics cards. I dumped them, in favor of Lightroom.

If only Adobe would improve the performance of Lightroom Classic in the library mode, I'd feel less irritated about continuing to pay them money. Why on earth it still uses the CPU for thumbnail generation when it uses the GPU for photo export I have no damn clue and it's immensely annoying. I also had to upgrade to 128GB of RAM so I could run Lightroom Classic at the same time as Davinci Resolve because LR uses roughly 45GB of RAM on my machine 😐 Still the least painful library management/editing software though, soooooo

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Yeah, I could definitely go for a smoother experience for culling 100%

I made the same switch from C1 to LRC a couple of months ago. C1 is good but I find that I can get better results faster with LR. If I needed perfection, C1 has greater precision but at the cost of time. I agree that masking and presets are superior in LR and the calibration tool has been a revelation. It can rescue dull or discoloured images so easily. I'm going to try your idea of using Lightroom for sessions.

I would be interested to see if the statement about C1 having better raw processing and colors vs Adobe Suite. It had been the (subjective) statement (although never scienctifically tested) by every YTber back in the day. I wonder if this statement holds true today? Adobe has come along way and I'd be surprised if C1 is really that much further ahead in this area. I've been on C1 for the last 3 years and thinking about cancelling it. They moved from a perpetual license to subscription and now trying to move you to their "all-in-one" subscription. TBH, it's getting really annoying and they are constantly jacking the prices up. Lastly, their software updates require you to download the full version and reinstall it every time. Why can't they do a normal update...

Yeah generative fill is now in Lightroom good call.

Just last year when my Adobe license expired I investigated a lot of available alternatives, free and paid, including C1, DXO, and Luminar. The funny thing the best alternative is Darktable, which is free. But none of the alternatives are nearly as good as LR. I can finish editing 1000 raw files from a shoot in an hour in LR, all the other software is a huge waste of time, not even mentioning lack of functionality and cumbersome interfaces.

I finally buckled down and decided to get with the learning curve of C1. I have been using it for almost a month. I love C1 but I find the interface a little to complicated and not user friendly. LR just feels like everything is right there and ready for use. Also a lot of features that you mentioned as far as masking and denoise. My workflow is just better with LR. I love the tethering with C1 though. That part and a few other features ill miss. I wish the things I like about both I could mold them together.

But all those features on Lr still doesn't support tether for sony camera. 😭

Over the years i've gone back and forth in the decision to switch to capture one after using lightroom for the last 7 years. Safe to say....USE WHAT WORKS FOR YOU.

@dunnadidit

2 ай бұрын

100% hard agree exactly!

I've used both, but I find LR quicker to use. A friend uses C1 as he needs tethering.

Generative fill isn't coming to Lightroom. As convenient as it would be they are two very different apps with two separate goals. If your photo is a house, Lightroom is painting/styling and Photoshop is renovations. Generative fill can completely change the contents of your image and so it'll stay a Photoshop feature.

Great video, thanks! 😊 But please do be very clear when you say or write Lightroom. What you are talking about is Lightroom Classic, not Lightroom. Can be a little tedious to scroll ahead a check which Lightroom version the video is about.

Why don’t you use PS to edit photos?

@dunnadidit

3 ай бұрын

I do also use PS when it's necessary. But I like the organization and ease of use in LR or Capture one for most things. But I do regularly move things into PS if I need to do more complicated procedures.

who's here after the news of adobe stealing creators content for their AI?

I need Photoshop to really mutilate my images, and for amateur use I see no justification for the price of Capture One. It's not an alternative, for me, it's additional software. I wondered about its tethering capabilities, it supports none of my current cameras, so I have to use the camera vendor software for tethering. I've been using Br the past few months, it offers some of the facilities if sessions in that I can make specific directories for stuff, which I tend not to do, and move stuff around willy nilly which I tend to do a lot.

Looks like it's time to switching back to Capture One because of the Adobe's new Term of Use

If you shoot tethered LR is way behind unfortunately....

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

This is a great point! I never have and probably won’t ever need to so it doesn’t affect me.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

This is a great point! I never have and probably won’t ever need to so it doesn’t affect me.

Same same from Dxo photolab

the animation in intro so damn cool!

When it comes to skin tones, C1 is the clear winner.

ON1 rockz

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Still haven't had the chance to try that one out!

@fewsangre

3 ай бұрын

This software was nothing but bugs, so behind on features, super slow...I spent soooo much time dealing with support than edit my photos .. run forest, run

Also that lightroom takes over the profile I select in my Sony camera as starting point for editing. In c1 I can not even select the portrait profile. I just get a basic profile for my camera. So many people argue about better colors in c1 and I think that none of them have a clue what profiles are and how to use them.

I used Lightroom until Adobe decided to offer only the subscition model. I switched to Capture One and Affinity Photo.

Lightroom is easier to use? I’m pretty computer literate - like I build gaming PC’s (and yes they work) lol and I spent 20 mins trying to import a single photo to edit on Lightroom with no joy. 😂 gave it access to everything 🤷🏻‍♂️

Lightroom Classic all the way

Fujifilm user from Lightroom to Capture One and back to Lightroom.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

We’re on the same journey.

Switching brand is bread and butter for youtubers.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

Not really actually. Every time I make a meaningful switch I tend to lose some of my audience since they know that I will likely not be making content on that gear/software again. Long term it works out fine because I will gain audience on the new gear but it would be much easier to just stick with one thing and double down on good content with it. Learning something new is also a pain in the ass… so if I’m going to switch, there has to be a pretty solid reason.

Lightroom is the no-brainer for me software wise, but I'm a Fuji shooter, oh well...

Stick to Capture for pro work. I work in an advertising agency we 💯 prefer capture.

Capture One always feels like they want you to do only a small amount of adjustments. It can be frustrating.

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

That’s a really interesting way to look at it!

For some reasons, I hate Lightroom interface. I stay with Capture one also because it has Perpetual license.

@LelleKidd

11 күн бұрын

With Perpetual license you doesn't get any "new feat. updates", only bug fixes...

Lightroom lost 400 edits, and as a former Beta site for Adobe, that happens. BUT the customer service in India insulting me, and wasting a week - with everyday abuse #nope #maybenextgeneration

@dunnadidit

4 ай бұрын

OOF! I'm sorry to hear that you had that terrible experience.

Promo sm

Capture one is so much cheaper ...

@LelleKidd

11 күн бұрын

It's the other way around.

@peruperu-jj8zs

11 күн бұрын

@@LelleKidd I can get one-time purchase of Capture One for the same price of 3 to 4 years of Lightroom subscription

@LelleKidd

11 күн бұрын

@@peruperu-jj8zs Yes, but then you are locked to that version, you will not get updates with new features. A year of Capture One costs €219, Lightroom costs €110 during the same period, and Photoshop is also included.

Hope Adobe goes out of business.

The concept and handle of catalog in capture one pro is really is a mess and the design is....far behind from a rational human