This pedal got us shook Watch us try and destroy some snare cases! 👉kzread.info/dash/bejne/k215xK5xftqep7A.html 👈

@craigstrickland1572

2 жыл бұрын

@@rdavidr They also make a triple pedal version. Good stuff. Sonor made a similar version and this guy kills them kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqqFo9SHqa2zo7w.html

@DrewKane

2 жыл бұрын

Would be hilarious if you filmed yourself playing a regular kick, and reedited the video to make it like you're awesome and he's... well... Would be a very funny KZread short, even.

@dudustickytricks

2 жыл бұрын

@@craigstrickland1572 And he does in boots! mind blown

@jessecerasus9621

2 жыл бұрын

@@craigstrickland1572 Hahhah wow!!

@ProjectVastness

2 жыл бұрын

Or this guy from Henker with Sonor pedal muahahah kzread.info/dash/bejne/iGadm7GLepi0c6Q.html

Take this to the next level: buy another one to have a QUADRUPLE pedal.

@Crep35

2 жыл бұрын

Fancy seeing you here

@vitoriabessa5371

2 жыл бұрын

!!!!!!!

@ajthepoppunkkid8415

2 жыл бұрын

The same company already makes a triple kick pedal, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they made a quadruple kick pedal.

@letsgobrandon6969

2 жыл бұрын

You need a video on this

@jeremymcbride

2 жыл бұрын

you beat me to it. double bass, 2 of these, quad!

This is basically a device to turn experienced drummers into beginners again.

@Cognitoman

Жыл бұрын

😂

@AnkothOfficial

Жыл бұрын

It's a completely different way to go about double bass. It's a device that has a learning curve of its own, and many drummers cheat with this pedal by putting no power in and instead triggering their drums. Some people can do some good stuff with them, though, like quad bass.

@RyoCanCan

Жыл бұрын

​@@AnkothOfficial Saying triggering is cheating is dumb tbh. It's a must at high speeds as you can't hit the drum with enough power for long periods of time at higher tempos.

@AnkothOfficial

Жыл бұрын

@Ortho-leaning Really? Tell that to Dave Lombardo, Nico Mcbrain, Gene Hoglan, and many of the old school drummers who somehow managed to do so just fine without any shortcuts. Thrash metal drummers play at high speeds without triggers all the time, yet they sound good. On the flip side, you get all the crappy modern metal (core/tech/djent) drummers who flex their drumming skills and shit but half of them use triggers to shortcut their way into achieving the desired velocity and consistency, leading to drums that sound the same with every hit and have no life or dynamics to them. Why would you bother micing up a bass at that point and not just get an electronic pad? That would save you so much space and money and the sound engineer's wouldn't have to mic up and fuck around with a drum you'll never really use, since you'll just replace it with a sample.

@RyoCanCan

Жыл бұрын

@@AnkothOfficial Oh boohoo. It's the 21st century boomer, get on with the times. Music is not a competition, there's no cheating. Also, Dave Lombardo didn't play 260bpm 16th notes. Oh well, too bad.

The dualist has been around for a very long time (possibly 15+ years); if it was going to make an impact it would have done years ago. I'm quite surprised it's still in production.

@Downshift1-6

2 жыл бұрын

This the kinda stuff people say before something blows up

@ryanford5387

2 жыл бұрын

@@Downshift1-6 based on this video is say we're fairly safe from that 😂

@keithwoodcrest

2 жыл бұрын

I saw Thomas Lang use one of these at a Modern Drummer Festival way back in 2000/2001 and the stuff he was doing with it was *nuts*. But that's really the only time I've ever seen anyone of any notoriety use one 🤷‍♂️

@ellipsis101

2 жыл бұрын

My drum teacher had this pedal in the end of the 90ties

@ScottJarreau

2 жыл бұрын

You’d have to reconfigure how you play drums to incorporate this thing. We can’t all be Thomas Lang lol 😂

My father, a mechanical engineer, discussed this idea with me about 30 years ago, where the upstroke of the pedal would activate a second beater. About 5 minutes into the conversation we decided it was way too impractical. I think we made the right call.

@tombstoneharrystudios584

2 жыл бұрын

I had the same convo with a hardcore punk drummer about 15 years ago. Great idea but to make it work he just couldn’t get it right

@daveyelmer3222

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, I thought of it too, long ago. No, just no.

@mariinito985

5 ай бұрын

After watching a ton of El Estepario’s video, I’m just here to say “Your father was a bad engineer”

@sydhamelin1265

5 ай бұрын

@@mariinito985 Going for dumbest comment of the year? It's early but you may still win. Do you think the standard drummer even plays 1/10th of what that guy plays? Come on, use your brain.

@mariinito985

5 ай бұрын

@@sydhamelin1265 I mean it's still early 2024 and I am trying to beat your dad's dumbest statement of the century award, so yeah. Wish me luck dude!

First making me play a bunch of Wuhans, now this. Next time I come to your place I'm setting your drums on fire david. 🔥

@DRUMM3RX7

2 жыл бұрын

HAHAHAHAHA

@Fl_Broccodile

2 жыл бұрын

Or you could steal one of his snares and give it away 😏

@rdavidr

2 жыл бұрын

too bad theyre all in humes & berg cases 😈

@josephmiddleton4422

2 жыл бұрын

Stephen's 1st reaction is the exact reaction every drummer had when this pedal came out. They now make one with a slave pedal so now triple beats can be achieved or whatever 3x3x3x3x3x3x e=Mc2 lol good.luck

@josephmiddleton4422

2 жыл бұрын

Rdavidr you got case money !? Whoa..

You have just relieved an underlying anxiety issue that I’ve had for 4 years. LOL. I purchased this pedal only because of the claim of producing doubles with a single pedal and because I am also an above the knee amputee (left leg). Man I buried myself into this pedal for 3 weeks straight and actually started to get it. That flies out the window the minute that you go back to a standard single pedal. Your quote is true, one must commit completely to this pedal only. I have come to the conclusion that I don’t need to rip double bass that much. Carry on……

@publicprofilename4273

2 жыл бұрын

And that's what drummers do. What? No leg? No arm? or like me, blind? We be ahight, we got this!

@uglypinkeraser

Жыл бұрын

I always loved the old Sonor Giant Step pedal. Its a double pedal with a heel lever and a toeboard lever, if you had the stamina to play heel up all the time its super rad!

@AnkothOfficial

5 ай бұрын

Play around with your floor Tom. Getting more bass out of your Floor Tom tone and getting it more punchy, then hitting it with a stick between your kick hits, will create the illusion of double bass drumming. Moreover, it will sound better than any double bass pedal as you're using two drums. There's a reason why amazing double bass drummers like dave lombardo, Gene hoglan, Paul Bostaff, etc. Don't use double pedals and instead use two drums with regular single pedals - according to an interview with Dave Lombardo, he basically said that if you're hitting one drum over and over again fast, you're deadening the previous hit with the next hit, as this next hit will essentially stop the drum playing, which means you don't get as good and full of a sound as using two drums, where both drums get hit independently and get to ring out nicely before the next hit, giving a fuller tone. You can also use two different sized drums or tune them differently to get more nuanced sounds. The floor tom trick is pretty popular, but a drummer who uses this really well is El Estepario Siberiano, who even covers metal songs that contain loads of double bass drumming with one foot, using his floor tom as a second bass drum. Recently, I've also seen that he put up a bigger bass/gong drum up on legs like a floor tom to be able to get those sounds easier.

Duallist actually makes a TRIPLE pedal that combines one of these with a left-footed bass pedal for EXTREME ACTION

@drummerdan95

2 жыл бұрын

Not just a triple pedal, but a QUADRUPLE pedal. Look up the drummer Morgan Sansous. It's worth it, I promise 😂

@mattryan6886

2 жыл бұрын

Played the triple pedal , made Iron Maiden galloping bass drum licks very easy

@joetroutt7425

2 жыл бұрын

I thought they made a pedal that instead of the button at the bottom of the pedal you just shifted the pedal the the side to engage the double beater?

@cruzdrum

2 жыл бұрын

Guido wyuss.... check out the sonor giant beat pedals!!!

@cruzdrum

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/eqqFo9SHqa2zo7w.html

If Lars Ulrich made a double pedal it would sound and feel just like this.

@Grayham4

2 жыл бұрын

This pedal makes you sound like Lars 😂

@stoogman

2 жыл бұрын

If only you were on his level. Way below kid. 😆😝

@Musiknird

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha! It was literally first thing I thought of. Both of your comments made me lol! 😂

@brianmclendon1647

2 жыл бұрын

Cold blooded, but Fucking hilarious!!!!!

@jasonglasmann3734

2 жыл бұрын

C'mon now, let's be fair. That fuckin thing sounds better than Lars! 😮 Utah Kid.......

Another solution to a problem that never existed.

@fishysquidman5689

2 жыл бұрын

Idk, could be useful for an amputee who loves metal. Pretty niche but there's probably some out there.

@bustedcrunk

2 жыл бұрын

That's capitalism, mang. Mining the planet for shite like this.

@MadMatty01

2 жыл бұрын

@@fishysquidman5689 or if you want to play double bass while also opening/closing the hihats.

@samdavis1549

2 жыл бұрын

I can’t play double bass quick enough so that would help me

@jaycielle

2 жыл бұрын

Not everything is a problem that needs solving - some things are just fun or interesting to some people

Now we need to see this tested out on a double bass drum kit! See if we can get to 600bpm lol

@rdavidr

2 жыл бұрын

search "quadruple blasting" on youtube. you wont be disappointed 😂

@aggzish

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/m2tkpKhxlsq7dbQ.html

@insertmetalusernamehere

2 жыл бұрын

That was the first thing that came to mind lol

@attempt58

2 жыл бұрын

I'm sure some guy did it, I know I have it on my dream kit

@insertmetalusernamehere

2 жыл бұрын

@@rdavidr I can confirm. Was not disappointed lol

Sonor makes a similar pedal called "Twin Effect" Theres a popular video of a French metal drummer playing two of them at the same time on separate bass drums and it's crazy

@besticouldget

2 жыл бұрын

But it makes much more sense because you can actually play it normal or heeltoe and thats when shit kicks in. Thomann used to sell these back in the for 666 euros :D I wouild love to try em because i play a lot heeltoe stuff.

@natefreedman2972

2 жыл бұрын

Link?

@la666e

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/qHh1zsWKg5OuXbQ.html

@baorozzo

2 жыл бұрын

I had too 2 of these sonor twin effects. It’s way, way hard to control them that it looks, it just melt your brain. Even the single one is really hard to play. And precision and constant volume is hard to achieve, kudos to who can play precisely. But you can have better control of everything you play. I loved them but I sold them (for cheap, btw, nobody wanted them).

@Philipp_Thielen_510

2 жыл бұрын

@@besticouldget drum-tec has one for 160€ I think

Looking at 2 drummers with WAY more experience than me struggling like this make me feel SO MUCH BETTER!!!! Thank you so much ^^ Best vid ever!

This looks like something that shouldn’t even exist in our world Also the way Stephen reacted to it at the end was hilarious 😂

@demetriusconey368

2 жыл бұрын

It was. I saw one of them decades ago. After seeing this, I love my double bass pedal

@Thatonequitekid2

Жыл бұрын

These mf’s just don’t know how to use the damn thing 😂

The guitar center here had one a decade ago. They had it setup on a kit and I got used to it pretty quick. It was pretty cool. I was able to get pretty fast 16th notes

When the dualistic came out I was just getting into percussion. I thought it was probably the best invention ever thought of for drumming. Glad I couldn't afford one.

Alternate Title: 2 really talented drummers find a way to make themselves sound terrible

@billdrummer1197

2 жыл бұрын

Who said that they needed help. Looks to me like one fool helping another. HEY!!!!......Dualing IDIOTS!!!!.....great new name for this channel.

It'd be sweet if y'all did a challenge where you pick random hardware/drum pieces out of a hat (or David's beard) and you have to play to a track. The hardware would have to be sort of ridiculous, much like this pedal, as well as adding some wacky stuff made in the workshop or whatever you could find. Kinda like an rdavidr game show.

@jacob6862

2 жыл бұрын

Why tf aren’t more people liking this, this sounds like an extremely funny idea.

@jakeklossing4352

2 жыл бұрын

@@jacob6862 I'm hoping one day we can get something like the Coop3rdrumm3r vs Cobus Potgieter drum battle. The Dave/Stephen duo is a match made in heaven, so I do wish more people were on board so they can see the fans asking for it, haha

@grishhung2828

2 жыл бұрын

Q

@publicprofilename4273

2 жыл бұрын

all the gimich stuff, that "fixes" an issue that it creates, and then makes worse? There's a gang of that stuff out there. That is a great idea. I'd watch it! Like that Tama foot operated drop clutch, or the Tama stilt stands... hmm, a pattern? lol well, that 250 pound Sonor tom mount system on like a GP bass drum, get as far as you can before the bass caves in lmao

The Dualist has been occasionally making some fuss in the metal community for something like 10 years. For every one person who can *Kind* of play it, you have 500 others who wouldn't even bother because of how inarticulate and un-intuitive it is. The fact that most drummers can't name a single notable drummer who uses regularly should say enough. Also, even when you learn to play it correctly - you need to use triggers of some variety to make up for the totally inconsistent power that the pedal produces. Which of course artificially inflates the price to use the pedals in any sort of environment where your bass drum needs to be heard.

@TheAgeOfAnalog

2 жыл бұрын

this

@TC-lk2ev

2 жыл бұрын

Will calhoun used it pretty damn well

@DenOfTimbsllc

2 жыл бұрын

It’s great for building the muscles to play double bass, I’m not gonna necessarily take it with me to a gig but if I need to practice playing double bass and build my legs up, this pedal is definitely great for that.

@TheMenz24

2 жыл бұрын

The drummer for Henker uses the quadruple version and he’s CRAZY fast with it

@GG-ml3vr

2 жыл бұрын

Didnt Charlie Benante use one?

I used to run a recording studio out in the middle of nowhere for local bands. This is exactly what a typical small town drummer, that never practices, sounds like. Only thing is they are using normal gear and not that monstrosity.

I know a guy who epoxied a shoe to his one so that he could have some control on the upstroke. It actually worked pretty well until one show when he forgot his carpet and the bass drum started creeping forward, we all thought he was going to get dragged with it and have a horrible time but he was able to yank using his foot and drag the drum back into position. The downfall came after 25 mins of pushing and pulling, the shoe became unstuck and then he couldn't play properly, or drag the drum back from the edge of the riser. Fond memories.

Imagine 2 of these tho😳😳😳

ah yes, the innate instinct of drummers to stare at your feet when they're not doing what you want them to do

@AV57

2 жыл бұрын

It’s important to look really confused, too. Everyone needs to know that you don’t know what’s going on, either.

In the 1980s when I was a really super serious skateboarder, there were kids who presented themselves as skaters but were just really good at walking on their hands, and so they'd just do handwalks all day and couldn't do any tricks on flat or on ramps at all. This reminds me exactly of that.

That’s exactly what I thought that thing would do. Thanks for filming & sharing!

I looked at the pedal adjust the spring tension on the auto beater, it’s reversed. My theory is that the tighter it is the harder it hits.

I feel like this was designed by an engineer that wasn't actually a drummer.

Whoa. I totally remember these, and I totally remember laughing at them 20 years ago. I always wanted to put two of them on a double bass kit because those runs have to be hilarious.

I remember seeing these when I FIRST started drumming many years ago and thinking it was awesome. I had forgotten about them and now I think quite the opposite. Disgusting. They even have a triple pedal apparently. But I mean if it works for you, you do you man. Doesn't matter how you do it if you get the sound you want.

@rdavidr

2 жыл бұрын

my thoughts exactly. I wanted one sooooo bad back in the day lol

@butre.

2 жыл бұрын

I can see value in the triple pedal, but the double just seems like a noob trap

The guys at Dualist today "Did you hear rdavidr and Stephen Taylor did a review of our pedal on KZread?" "Oh sick! That should help boost sales, lets go check it out." "Oh. Oh God. Oh God No.."

This was damn funny. Thanks for the vid. While it may not be a good pedal, it's risks like this that lead to successful Innovations. Have to admire the effort.

This is the perfect pedal for those that want to travel back to the time when we were first learning how to play double bass drum and had zero consistency. David, just be real, its a bad pedal, especially if it's a hindrance. "Can I have a refund, please?" Was gold.

This is EXACTLY the feeling I had the first time I tried a double bass pedal. It's like relearning to play the drums.

I used the D3 when I recorded with my old band. The pedal is unique and you do need to make adjustments so the beater strikes are consistent. I also spoke to kevin mackie who designed it and made adjustments like heavier beaters. Once you learn to switch off and not over think its a great piece of kit. I know saxons drummer is endorsed but duallist too.

It's not supposed to, because a double bass is much easier to control and let's be honest, looks 1000x cooler

That’s a clean ass groove on that bass drum with that Dualist! Mad respect! That pedal melted my brain! 😂

You guys are a blast, and are amazing!

This pedal is the answer to a question that no one is asking.

I remember seeing one of those on a NAMM video from like 6-7 years ago IIRC. Blew my 12 year old mind lol

I haven't seen this pedal for a decade! Awesome testing!

I really enjoy watching how these two talented drummers struggle with this simple piece of equipment because it's very much how I struggle with simple equipment.

Are yall really just now hearing about this pedal? Lol I'm surprised they are still around. I remember seeing this in the drum mags 10-15 yrs ago. Long enough ago that ppl were still buying magazines haha

@StephenTaylorDrums

2 жыл бұрын

I had literally never heard of this pedal...I was completely confused when he brought it out. Total truth right there

@drumavenger83

2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenTaylorDrums Yea. It never got popular for obvious gimmicky reasons. Lol I was more surprised with seeing it in a video from 2022 haha

@drumavenger83

2 жыл бұрын

@@StephenTaylorDrums oh. You should see if you can find their 3 beater double pedal! Lol I'm serious. They made em...

@TomPhotoix

2 жыл бұрын

Longer than that. I had the triple version well over 15 years ago! It was terrible then too.

They also have regular pedals, that are single based. That DuPont material is groundbreaking. Extremely light and strong like carbon fiber. Very fast regular pedal

Thanks for that honest and hilarious review 😆

I’ve been looking for one of these for so long!!!

I remember when those came out. I had just started playing drums. And I wanted to play double pedal but couldn’t. So I thought I needed one of those. 😂

@rdavidr

2 жыл бұрын

That was EXACTLY me back in middle school when I first saw a video of one. I wanted one so bad😂

I know: Get a second bass drum with another Duallist on it.

@komradenikolai

2 жыл бұрын

I did that already. Check this out kzread.info/dash/bejne/paOZ0Y-rYMbbYag.html

Dude, you had me cracking up at the "..I thought staring at it would help." tag... Too funny. 🤘

Just something else for you guys to master great vid

Imagine having 2 of those pedals and play with 4 kick!!

@frankfertier34

2 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/iGadm7GLepi0c6Q.html

@jessecerasus9621

2 жыл бұрын

Woooo!

The funniest thing I've seen this year so far. :)))))))) Thank you, guys! =)))))))))

Great video! You can feel the frustration!

Ok wait…. I think it has a whole lot of adjustment points and then I don’t like how the one pedal ejects…. I personally wouldn’t use this pedal because it’s so unnatural. Lol cool vid though!

So, as the tradition goes, I will now enter that comment : "Make a drumkit just with pedals!"

Back in the 90s my drum teacher was some sort of distributor for these things. I never tried one, though, and seeing this you mentioned exactly the issue I expected at the time.

I have one of these with a good Roland edrum set up and I love it! I have complete control of the hi-hat all times and can make some really interesting bass drum patterns at the same time.

The funny thing is...the first time I heard about double bass pedals 15 years ago, I totally thought this is how they actually worked 🤣

Seems like the dualist kind of sucks, thanks for the vid

@toivo.u

2 жыл бұрын

Surprise surprise

@notelijah4650

2 жыл бұрын

@@toivo.u I was thinking of getting one a while back for quadruple bass.. Don’trhink i’ll be doing that

You know what I like about this video? It goes against the idea of perfectionism. We see all these videos of all these awesome drummers and we just assume they sit down at the kit and magic happens. We don't see the practice or the struggle when something new challenges them. You both weren't afraid to post a video of yourselves not playing at 100% and it's such a refreshing change.

You two are great. Thanks for this

@rdavidr

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate it man🤘

Cheating and it sucks!!

That Action Would Drive Me NUTS! Thank you for suffering through for all of us!!!!! LOL

You guys made my day with this video lol

I've literally felt how hard was that. Thanks for video

The memes in the first part have been top tier amigo. 👌

Looks like a great way to bring good drummers down to my level

Never watched your videos before and I was laughing the whole first minute because of ingenious editing 🤣

This was quite funny to watch 😂 I was expecting by the end for you guys to be great at it haha. You know that you can get the double pedal version of it which has 3 beaters?

The only drummer I know by name who uses one of these regularly is Will Calhoun of Living Colour: He uses two kicks, his main is a 22 with a Sleishman double pedal (the pedal where both pedals are offset from the center) and a 20 on his left with this Duallist pedal. It's an interesting design and he makes it work, but I don't think I would ever buy this for myself as it doesn't feel natural for me or like something I'd personally have a use for. But if it suits you then by all means go for it!

“Ah that’s just gross” pretty much sums it up perfectly with honorable mention going to “ I’m not excited about this at all”.

Stellar review! Great humor!

Only thing missing were the "wait wait wait!" you shout like a kid showing a new trick ! Hahahaha ! Great stuff guys !

@rdavidr

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

“You ever seen one of these before?!” “……….I don’t know” 😂😂😂😂😂

Now this is the promo video I've been waiting for. lol

Wow, this is a blast from the past. I remember a buddy of mine bought one back in the day. After a week he threw off the roof of his rehearsal space.

Dude I’ve seen this pedal in the back of Modern Drummer for years in the ad section… I’ve never actually seen it in action. Thanks!

You guys just broke the internet lol, this is one of the funniest things to watch 🤣 🤘🤘

I think the idea was there, but there's to many outside variables to make this usable. Thank you for attending my TED talk.

I feel so gratified seeing this pedal so many years later and seeing what a load of GOOP this thing is

Nice to see u two guys together...2 points of views...interesting device...thanks for the entertainment and advice guys!!

Was about to buy one, then saw this video and changed my mind!

I remember seeing these in a Musician's Friend catalogue in high school and being mesmerized. I always wondered how'd it's play.

I’d love to see you guys review the dualist triple pedal!

I absolutely loathe the pedal, but loved the video! Great job guys! Looked like it was a lot of fun to make and I thoroughly enjoyed watching it! Lol

I’ve always wanted to try one of these, I first saw one about twenty years ago when I started out. I would be excited to try out something different.

Do a double bass with two of those pedals 😯 That would be nuts!

When Stephen looked at it and they played the AOL dial up sounds🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂. They both played this so good lol you guys had me dying the whole video lol. I've honestly never actually seen this pedal before either lol

Never mind the nice beat, I'm just amazed to see someone was able to use that pedal the way it was meant to be used. That thing confused tf out of me. I gave up too quick and went back to 2 pedals. Just another example of how awesome this guy is for me.

I had so much fun watching you guys struggle with this pedal! Now I wish I could try it to see how awkward it feels...

I don't have my kit setup right now however I have one of these pedals. I think it's a fun pedal to play with once you get the hang of it however I always found myself switching back to another pedal when I play at most times.

That's pretty cool that you can control the pedal as a single or a double.

"Let's do triplets" =D this had me in stitches, thanks guys!

I had one of these, probably around 12 years ago had pink writing on the footboard, have mixed feelings, very fast doubles but quite a heavy action, I went direct drive and never looked back but part of me would still love one just for a bit of fun.

I missed this channel. Fell off my YT homepage a few years ago for some reason and then I remembered about it

I remember dreaming about having two of these on a double bass kit when they first came out. Luckily I didn’t have the money back then, so I was never let down… until now.

I started slamming my head into cinderblock walls just LOOKING at this thing. It's a drumming sudoku puzzle. Like, gnarly dude.

Lol 30+ years since I first tried one of those. It's fun to see they're still not any easier 😜

Funnily enough, my middle school had something like that and I was very surprised finding out about the common double bass pedals.

Awesome video!

i played this pedal for years and i still have it!