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@Prishdoesanimations
Жыл бұрын
First reply
@Stejers
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you dont have a well to throw embassadors out so you gotta throw them out the window instead
@stanisawzokiewski3308
Жыл бұрын
Why is the Greek darker than the Persian? are you americanising again extra?
@kpfard
Жыл бұрын
@@stanisawzokiewski3308 How many persians you know?
@stanisawzokiewski3308
Жыл бұрын
@@kpfard I know Greeks and they arent that dark.
The two Spartans: "Please execute us" Xerxes: "Why y'all so weird bro"
@moosaanwar3475
19 күн бұрын
Hahaha
@woohoowoohoo
Күн бұрын
Tee hee
Spartan 1: please kill me King: nope, you two will be honoured guest and will be treated well Spartan 2: F***
@SordidusFellatio
5 ай бұрын
“Here’s a Lambo and a Ferrari for your problem, no worry everybody is family here”
@nirvanic3610
5 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@samuraiboi2735
5 ай бұрын
@@SordidusFellatioalso your adopted dont worry
@sor3999
5 ай бұрын
@@SordidusFellatio"I am a generous god."
@judicatorhurayth1927
5 ай бұрын
"what happens now?"
"Please kill us" "Lmao gtfo"
@mayahanane43
4 ай бұрын
i wanna see a king say "lmao"
@vintage-radio
4 ай бұрын
lmao
@Yesna
3 ай бұрын
@@mayahanane43I want to see you in the act of sewing your hilly cushion back on after each time you have "lmao'd"
@seandoesnpcshit
3 ай бұрын
💀
@30pranaypawar17
3 ай бұрын
@@mayahanane43nope. closest u will hear is "humour me."
They absolutely humiliated the spartans by not killing their messengers. They essentially stated they would not stoop to their barbaric levels
@mateoUR2121
5 ай бұрын
Dude xerxes destroyes the entre city of Athens lol.
@enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089
5 ай бұрын
And then they lost LMFAO
@brettvogel8418
5 ай бұрын
@@mateoUR2121 true. That's arguably more barbaric than killing a couple people. The greeks were weird though, razing cities was a norm back then, yet it seems it was more frowned upon to "shoot the messenger"
@pablofernandez-pacheco3224
5 ай бұрын
@@enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089not really, they lost in salamina and Platea, that's true. But the objective of the war for the persians was punish the greeks for interfering in the anatolian greek cities that were under the persian empire. After the war Persia changed his methods and used the spartans as a proxy war with Athens. In the end the greek only achieve a great victory against Persian with Alexander the great
@enclaveherewhyisntyourvide3089
4 ай бұрын
@@pablofernandez-pacheco3224 "We may have had a massive military defeat but we won a few times too so ehh.."
It’s actually better than that. Refusing to kill those two messengers in retaliation was itself a massive insult.
@freshrockpapa-e7799
Жыл бұрын
Why
@ElBandito
Жыл бұрын
@@freshrockpapa-e7799 Proves those two Spartans are not even worth the lives of his messengers.
@wackyotter1235
Жыл бұрын
@@freshrockpapa-e7799in a way it says that “we will not appease your gods”
@secretunknown253
Жыл бұрын
Thank you captain obvious. The video already said that lol
@You-are-definitely-right-but
Жыл бұрын
@@secretunknown253 It never did lol, watch that part again to jog your memory ig
Spartans: We come here as sacrifices Xerxes: *nuh uh*
@FalansaFurqon
6 ай бұрын
Yu uh
@Milk_____________________
5 ай бұрын
Nuh uh
@Lol-nn5su
5 ай бұрын
Da faq you mean Nu uh
@cesar6302
5 ай бұрын
WHAT DO YOU MEAN NUH UH!?!?!?!
@anthonyn.7379
5 ай бұрын
Nuh uhhh ☝️
By refusing to kill them he basically made the Spartans/Greeks think that the gods were really mad at them. This was fucking psychological warfare at its finest
@Atlas_high-gaming
5 ай бұрын
No he didn't, you would be silly to think the Greeks thought another man knew what the gods wanted. You clearly don't understand Greek myth.
@randomboys1000
3 ай бұрын
@@Atlas_high-gaming🥸
@Atlas_high-gaming
3 ай бұрын
@@randomboys1000 👍
@notproductiveproductions3504
Ай бұрын
It’s pretty out of character for the Olympians to not be biased towards the Greeks
@painvillegaming4119
Ай бұрын
@@notproductiveproductions3504if anything I got the feeling the Olympians didn't like anyone
Xerxes : Double it and pass it to the next person.
@user-zi8bd7zp2f
2 ай бұрын
باحال بود👍
the Spartans: *kill me* Xerxes: "later"
@gabrielmontenegro9476
Жыл бұрын
"Where was I...here we go..."
@jonathanchan7896
Жыл бұрын
Should I be awake for this?
@holoqofholoqqia9503
Жыл бұрын
Hehe, no. But as long as you are could you open Greece's waters for a bit? I can't seem to....
@grahamshaw9873
Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanchan7896 Ahah, well, no, but seeing as you are, would you mind holding open your ribcage for me? I can't seem to-
@matejsk5770
Жыл бұрын
Awwe dont be such a baby Ribs grow back
"This is Persia. Go home."
@OrthoKarter
Жыл бұрын
greece >>>>
@iLLya_
Жыл бұрын
@@OrthoKarter🤣🤣🤣 as xerxes said
@keiththomas1180
Жыл бұрын
Sums it up pretty nicely actually
@Hoangdaide
Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@QuakeNarsus
Жыл бұрын
@@OrthoKarter thanks bro this joke made my day
Xerxes was actually a really chill dude. Any country he annexed into his empire was free to continue their own cultural and religious practices.
@SorenTheMagi
4 ай бұрын
Did he conquer any other countries except greece?
@JacobL228
4 ай бұрын
@@SorenTheMagi Egypt, Macedonia, and Thessaly. His father conquered even more, though.
@volcatybor3204
4 ай бұрын
Maybe, but people yearn for freedom and any idea of independence even peaceful was met with harsh punishment, which led to more and more cultures wanting freedom from them.
@SorenTheMagi
4 ай бұрын
@@volcatybor3204 the only thing that greece didn't have in common with persia was the fact that one of their cities could vote for their king,spartans literally sacrificed their kids if they were weak while being a newborn and they killed random slaves while training,when the Greeks sacrificed women for their oracles and gods,Persian women managed businesses and could gain ranks within the court,the capital of Persia "Persepolis" was made by volounteers who were paid fairly,if a Persian Woman lost her Husband at war,the government would give her enough money and rations that she could move on without her husband without any problems,I'm not saying that persia was PERFECT,any kind of revolts and rebellions were faced with violence,just like Ionia but living in GREECE was much more harder than living in PERSIA at the time.
@volcatybor3204
4 ай бұрын
@SorenTheMagi I mean, I'm of the mind that the Ionian revolt was stupid and hubristic. The greeks should have been friends with the Persians. They were not bad masters. Human sacrifice in Greece was not that common and was frowned upon in the majority of the states. The biggest issue is that each greek city state had different cultures, so it's hard to make sweeping statements about Greece as a whole at that period. I'll never defend the Spartans they had a certain lifestyle that even other greeks despised. The problem was the future satrap of Europe, Mardonius led a Razing campaign on the eastern greeks and Athens after the revolt. The greeks had to fight because that's what they thought was coming to mainland Greece Also if you want the true human sacrifices look at Carthage.
There's a reason "don't shoot the messenger" is a well known phrase Edit: guys, the phrase literally used to mean "messengers are a neutral party with diplomatic immunity and killing them will start a war". Something holding a different meaning in the modern day doesn't erase the fact that the original meaning was vastly different. Do you shake people's hands to make sure they don't have a knife hidden up their sleeve? No! But that's why we started doing that, to check for concealed weapons. It wasn't always just a greeting, it has historical meaning that makes sense in the context of the time. Humans used to be as ruthless as animals, and the terrible things they did got repeatedly watered down over time until it became totally benign.
@yodamaster757
2 ай бұрын
Wow!
@PwnZombie
2 ай бұрын
@@yodamaster757this isn’t the reason
@Jeffrey_LOL-vi9wy
2 ай бұрын
It’s A reason tho It uses a really big reverse bullet. You go really fast towards the bullet standing still
@squiddwizzard8850
2 ай бұрын
"don't kick the messenger into a well"
@benjaminmorris4962
2 ай бұрын
Exactly. They're just doing their job. It's not their words that offend you, but someone else's. Be mad at the person who sent the message, not the person who delivered it
Wow. That's gotta be the biggest slap to the face Xerxes could've given to the Spartans. I kinda respect that.
@janus3555
11 ай бұрын
And yet he and they lost. It was well deserved.
@apvtethic8818
10 ай бұрын
@@janus3555Persia won the battle of the Thermopiles though
@janus3555
10 ай бұрын
@@apvtethic8818 After being absolutely destroyed by the small group of Spartans. They later lost the war shortly after against Greece.
@prestonjones1653
6 ай бұрын
@janus3555 And unfortunately the world has had to deal with the ramifications of baby rapers being the bedrock of western civilization ever since.
@I_Crit_My_Pants
6 ай бұрын
@@apvtethic8818SJWs be like:
The masochist says to the sadist, "Hurt me." The sadist leans over and says, "No."
@BadWebDiver
Жыл бұрын
Love that joke!
@kevinward246
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a Watchmen reference.
@thiccboi1221
8 ай бұрын
The vampire laments as he prays for the sun. Iykyk
@cunt667
7 ай бұрын
Sharp as a clever
@C.G.Gaster
7 ай бұрын
Now what if the masochist likes all forms of humiliation?
"...an age of free men," Leonidas told his wife Gorgo - while their slaves rolled their eyes.
@SohanDsouza
5 ай бұрын
A scene repeated a couple of millennia later during the American Revolution, I'm sure.
@geochonker9052
4 ай бұрын
@@SohanDsouzaThomas Jefferson initially wrote against slavery in the constitution but he had to remove it because he didn't want a civil war. The founding fathers treated their slaves well
@Garangus
4 ай бұрын
@@geochonker9052slavery is demonic either way, doesn't matter
@hannasmith6621
4 ай бұрын
TrEatEd tHeIr SlaVeS wElL. You can't own a human being and "treat them well". The very act is cruel and inhumane. Also how would you know? No way in hell would the founding fathers say "ah yes, we treat other human beings terribly. Thus we should lead this country". Not even acknowledging all the stories of enslaved people that would never be remembered by time like the founding father's were Just a bad take.
@Daniel_P116
4 ай бұрын
@@geochonker9052 Such good founding fathers...
As a Persian I can confirm my boy Xerxes was laughing harder then a hyena.
@Atlas_high-gaming
5 ай бұрын
Can you confirm how much he was coping/seething at the sight of his massive navy getting annihilated by the smaller and less numerous Greek ships at the battle of Salamis?
@TheDarkMaster312
4 ай бұрын
@@Atlas_high-gamingHe defeated the Spartans at Thermopylae, conquered Attica, and sacked Athens. Then got handed an L by a united greece. Why meatride a dead society?
@Atlas_high-gaming
4 ай бұрын
@@TheDarkMaster312 defeated? You mean ambushed the king and his royale guard on their walk? Persia never defeated any spartan army. To conquer is to hold. And mostly to set history right. Funny how you see that as "meatriding", sorry to tell ya buddy but no your people aren't the continuation of Persia.
@TheDarkMaster312
4 ай бұрын
@@Atlas_high-gaming @Atlas_high-gaming A W is a W, I don't know what you think I am but you're making a lot of assumptions buddy, maybe you should have a seat and catch some sun because you're freezing over there in your hole.
@geochonker9052
4 ай бұрын
@@Atlas_high-gamingForgive me if I'm wrong but wasn't Artaxerxes the one who was conquered by Alexander the Great? If so, then Xerxes did hold it for his lifetime.
I believe that xerxes must have told the two Spartans "THIS IS... a joke" "go back home and tell Leonidas: eat my sandals"
@maxravenwood3877
Жыл бұрын
Eat my sandals might be my new favorite insult. Just yesterday I was asking my sister about a more family friendly line
@germanomagnone
Жыл бұрын
@@maxravenwood3877 well thanks, that was nothing but a parody of the Bart Simpson catchphrase: "Eat my shorts" (in italian is "Ciucciati il calzino"), but since there weren't any shorts at the time, sandals were a great substitute.
@germanomagnone
Жыл бұрын
these 1096 likes, will not be "Persian soldiers of xerxes"!
@germanomagnone
Жыл бұрын
now they are 4708 likes.
@kingpatrick1265
Жыл бұрын
@@maxravenwood3877it also would suck worse because of that kind of sandle slime that builds up.
I have to wonder what those two Spartan soldiers thought after being sent away. "Well, on the one hand, we're not dead. So, I guess that's kind of a plus." "Yeah, but on the other hand, we were specifically sent here to be sacrificed. So if we return to Sparta, they'll be pissed." "Huh... Well, I guess we live here now. Wonder what the food's like..."
@reillycurran8508
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the premise for a hilarious buddy comedy
@gkmginger56
Жыл бұрын
Meet the Spartans: Prequel
@bigmanlettuce4388
Жыл бұрын
@@reillycurran8508 Statcus and Crashus in Two broke Greeks.
@nuefah1150
Жыл бұрын
@@bigmanlettuce4388ROFLLLLLLL that's gold
@Aabergm
Жыл бұрын
I think you don't understand Spartan culture, being killed by an enemy was a great honour. Being send away alive and unharmed would have been the modern equivalent of having their eyes gouged, hands and tongues removed and covered in pig excrement. To the Spartans at least, to Xerxes he was just being honourable.
The Narrative changes when you realize Xerces was not the villain.
@volcatybor3204
4 ай бұрын
It's way more complicated than that. Shoukd the Ionians have revolted? Probably not. Should athens have helped? Maybe Ionians were greek. Should the greeks have burned Sardis? No. Should the Persians have launched a massive retaliation campaign turning entire populations of islands into slaves? No. Should the spartans killed the messengers so that sparta could never offer peace in fear of what I mentioned just above? Probably not. The Persians and greeks should have been good friends but Hubris, Ambition and posturing are what drive humans.
@a_channel2545
Ай бұрын
Debatable
@musicalDrebin
22 күн бұрын
Spartans weren't great people but the Greek city states were right to defend themselves from a foreign invader. Just cause he was tolerant and free slaves doesn't mean his conquests weren't bloody and awful in their own way. In the end it's the ancient world and we probably shouldn't idealize either party
Spartan 1" kill us as a peace offer " king "aw hell naw bro, wtf is wrong with You"
@lornbaker1083
3 ай бұрын
I would assume a rumor would have spread throughout the entirety of persia after this saying that the spartans are just insane. First they Dispatch the ambassador we sent to them , and then they send us 2 so we do the same to keep things equal? What is wrong with these people. It's is there something in their food supply? Is it like A grain mold or something? why are these people this crazy. ? You dispatched one of our messengers. Why would you think sending 2 of yours to us? Is somehow going to even the books. I mean , i'm not sure if the spartans understand even basic math but that's not how it works.
That face of xerxes was a funniest thing I seen in extra history so far I wish he did that irl
@prinzeszelda3650
Жыл бұрын
Might I suggest the queen of England in odins gettup as a strong contender? I agree tho
@larkohiya
Жыл бұрын
Thst frames style was lifted from other art style/meme. Probably why it was funnier then the otherwise generic style they use.
he literally hit them with "we don't do that here"😅
@Jebu911
Ай бұрын
I mean Persians were civilized compared to the slaver spartans.
>Kills messenger >Gets threatened to get invaded Damn must be divine punishment, not like we killed their diplomat
Killing a messenger is one of THE dumbest moves a politician in any time period could make.
@VijetnamDuB7474
4 ай бұрын
Vlad cepesh left The chat😂
"but Sir you need to kill us to bring justice" lmao- he said- unlucky
@Lee-jt4hz
Жыл бұрын
Bro help me. Where's this meme from. Ik its the "lol -he said- lmao." Meme but like, idk its origin
@fogkard2913
Жыл бұрын
@@Lee-jt4hz frog and the scorpion
@ArchbishopOfPain-mv6hi
11 ай бұрын
“But sir the gods-“ “Skill issue” he said “get ratioed”
@Atlas_high-gaming
5 ай бұрын
@@ArchbishopOfPain-mv6hiratio'd in terms of numbers of soldiers, ratio'd the Persian with how many of whose corpses filled that pass
I never read any sources saying that he laughed but that he sent them back to Sparta basically saying “While what you’ve done was terrible, I’m not going to alleviate your guilt by stooping to your barbaric level”
@joeboyd1964
Жыл бұрын
Based
@painvillegaming4119
Жыл бұрын
I can respect it honestly
@Progamermove_2003
Жыл бұрын
Say that to the creators of 300.
@DJuuJ
Жыл бұрын
@@Progamermove_2003 nooooo, don't ruin the fantasy pls, we want buff half naked spartans fighting thousands of faceless persian minions 😭😭😭😭😭😭
@Progamermove_2003
Жыл бұрын
@@DJuuJ To say that the Spartans fight half naked, that they don't even have money to provide their *best* troops, the elite royal bodyguard unit, with armour is more insulting to Spartans than anything else.
This is the better version of: “Kill me” “Later”
That's both hardcore on the Spartans and a total chad move on Xerxes.
Honestly, a pretty good reaction from Xerxes. The movie also portrays him as way worse than he was. He had something that other empires of the time didn’t: religious tolerance.
@denizmergen418
Жыл бұрын
Persians are prety chill for most of history
@Packless1
Жыл бұрын
...indeed...! ...Sparta...a country that declares civil-war to its people's mayority, the helots, on a yearly base...?
@BoxStudioExecutive
Жыл бұрын
Which other empire of the time didn’t have religious tolerance?
@essaadeel3676
Жыл бұрын
@@BoxStudioExecutive slavery was banned in the Achaemenid Empire and women had actual rights something completely alien to Greeks
@BoxStudioExecutive
Жыл бұрын
@@essaadeel3676 You didn't answer my question. Why are you bringing up completely irrelevant topics?
"You want me to allow you to caveat your way out of divine retribution?, no way, jog off"
@satriadicky3732
Жыл бұрын
"You seek forgiveness where i seek retribution."
@Hunnid24
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@sink5321
11 ай бұрын
you see this actually would put the gods on the spartans side as refusing a request to be killed was a great offense to the gods (especially the war ones)
@vicenteisaaclopezvaldez2450
8 ай бұрын
@@sink5321 Now, is it not convenient that you can victimize a group and when this victimization is perceived as an advantage you can flip the script and victimize yourself?. Like, as a member of the alphabet mafia myself this is a hard thing to say, but the Spartans were tripping hard.
@diogoteixeira4950
8 ай бұрын
@@sink5321lucky for the Persians, they only believe in 2 gods, and only 1 of them is worth worshiping, and he is not a big fan of violence and human sacrifice
Based Xerxes with that chad move
Sparta seems more like a WOW clan
@lornbaker1083
3 ай бұрын
You are more on the nose than you Even realize. I have witnessed world of warcraft groups that would literally hold spartan style inspections before raids.
Leonidas killing the messenger is the most Karen move. You wouldn’t blame the cashier at a McDonald’s for the prices
@AdnanShaikh-zh5zd
11 ай бұрын
But people think it was cOol
@illusiveman8561
11 ай бұрын
Ok Lets draw the line at Calling Leonidas a Karen. The messager movie or real life should pass a message and go, this one and i imagine many others in history tried something else, talking smack to a spartan can only end one way, so if you wanted hostilities you might send a messanger to provoke, this one tried to intimidate them into surrender
@andrefilipe6757
10 ай бұрын
Yeah but you would if he spat on your food
@refugeemorales8003
10 ай бұрын
They still do blame the McDonald’s cashier lol
@cooperofchaos9225
9 ай бұрын
profligate refused to watch his tongue, what'd he expect?
Sparta was just that edgy teen from highschool
@hotpopcorncake
Жыл бұрын
Na, They were more like Doom slayer
@ryla22
Жыл бұрын
@@hotpopcorncake nah, doom slayer didn't exist yet at the time
@petrospetromixos6962
Жыл бұрын
@@ryla22 Nore did highschool
@abdallaazzam907
11 ай бұрын
@@petrospetromixos6962nor did your brain
@Burn_Angel
11 ай бұрын
@@abdallaazzam907 Nor did yo mamma
Xerces was like: “Nah, imma do my own way lol”
@_.Ra1n3._
4 ай бұрын
Xerxes*
"What happened next" "Seven years later"
Its crazy to think how "THIS IS SPARTA" became an iconic meme in 2000s
@novo121
Жыл бұрын
I guess spartans didnt predict we will all laugh at these 3 words in basements of our moms
@bayanbatu6848
Жыл бұрын
Bro stfu, that's not even funny
@SrumDillyDumious
Жыл бұрын
Why are you everywhere!?
@novo121
Жыл бұрын
@@SrumDillyDumiousI just send a shadow clone. Do the math
@planetofcows
8 ай бұрын
Bot
Makes sense from Xerxes perspective if he also believed in devine protection for envoys. He believes he has a devine advantage over the Spartans. Why would you give that up for slaying two enemies?
@Progamermove_2003
Жыл бұрын
I an not aware about the Zoroastrian concept, but it would certainly help him with PR stuff. Afterall, there's a reason why of the hundreds of different city states, only 30 resisted the Persians.
@The5thnail
6 ай бұрын
Its all ridiculous and most of it is made up.
@Jaco059
2 ай бұрын
It didn’t help in the end
@XMysticHerox
Ай бұрын
@@Progamermove_2003 A big part of it was also that (unlike the greeks) the Persian empire was actually very chill towards the places they conquered and otherwise absorbed. Persia was the first syncretic empire in history.
I gotta know what that messenger said to piss them off in real life
And the movie says persians were barbaric in reality the spartans were lol
@_.Ra1n3._
4 ай бұрын
Real
@Jaco059
2 ай бұрын
Yes conquering someone isn’t mean at all
Bro laughed 😂 he was like “These Spartans are the craziest people in the world”
Xerxes was actually a pretty good ruler and those under him (even conquered) were treated pretty fairly.
@thenablade858
Жыл бұрын
He could’ve been worse, but he captured and razed Athens in the war against Greece which unfortunately led to the burning of Persepolis under Alexander as ‘retribution.’ But conquered people were allowed to keep their customs and religions so long as they obeyed Persian rulers + paid taxes.
@LordErebusBloodmoon
Жыл бұрын
@@thenablade858 i mean athens kinda deserved it for you know being athenians. Prideful buggers. Thebes number 1!
@ripvanwinkle532
Жыл бұрын
@@thenablade858 I would say all ancient rulers would be bad people, because conquering by itself is wrong but some were less bad than others
@thenablade858
Жыл бұрын
@@ripvanwinkle532 The closest to an Ancient ruler that I would see as ‘good’ are the two Antonines of Rome. Pius had the most peaceful approach to Roman administration and Marcus preferred to emulate philosophers over Augustus or Julius. But, they were still Emperors. These are just ones that are less likely to have us beheaded for stepping on their toes accidentally.
@reaperoftheyeari4481
Жыл бұрын
@ThenaBlade are you on drugs? There is literally Cyrus the great which is some what ancient father of human rights
Spartan 1 “Guess what king!?” King: why tf are you still alive
Either they were kind enough to not let them be sacrificed, or they just, "lmaooo, gtfo!"
The biggest stunt this movie managed to pull off was making me believe, when I was a child, that the Spartan society was the better society 😅😂
@jasonhutchins8481
6 ай бұрын
It was without a doubt better than Persia. Do you even understand how vile and evil Persia was?
I still believe Xerxes is unjustly represented in history.
@ThubanDraconis
Жыл бұрын
I think he's probably well represented by actual history. My understanding of actual history was that the Persian Empire was one of the more tolerant and humane empires of the day. On the other hand, the Spartans were the kind of warrior culture people can admire from afar but would hate and detest if you had them on your border. The movie 300 should be taken as the imagination of a very young man who is hearing the embellished story of Leonidas.
@KiwiImpactSaint
Жыл бұрын
He is portrayed OK in the Bible as a reasonable emperor. Though Jews call him King Ahasuerus.
@miskakopperoinen8408
Жыл бұрын
@@KiwiImpactSaint The non-Hellenized version of Xerxes is Khshayarsa, where the Kh-beginning is a harsh H-sound, kind of resemblent of how French often pronounces R. The Hebrew version of the name is hence more faithful to the Persian form than the Greek is.
@LincolnDWard
10 ай бұрын
@@KiwiImpactSaint Albeit with a lot of very sexist and racist advisors and nobles
@Southern_Crusader
9 ай бұрын
@@ThubanDraconisI believe that too.
No one’s gonna mention how good his “this is Sparta” was?
THIS. IS SPARTAAAA!!! * Epic remix plays *
By the time the Romans showed up in force, the Spartans were known as one of the most backwater Greek settlements.
@collincaperton6718
4 ай бұрын
By the time the romans mattered the spartans didnt even exist the spartans were annexed by achaea in 192 bc the romans didnt have control over greece until 146 bc. But yeah the spartans had fallen far feom glory from being one of the biggest and strongest city states to being a backwater village no one really cared about.
@isaackellogg3493
4 ай бұрын
They were essentially the North Korea of the ancient world
@gummilad2
4 ай бұрын
@@isaackellogg3493 Isn’t Sparta considered the first democracy though? And they were just a militaristic society, plenty of other nations could be considered closer.
@isaackellogg3493
4 ай бұрын
@@gummilad2 Athens is considered the first democracy, though except for also having two kings, Sparta’s government was essentially identical.
@DarkTider
3 ай бұрын
Thebes probably had a hand in that ;)
Lmao what did they expect. „Oh you sacrificed two dudes? Ok I’m not gonna conquer Greece now and gain immense wealth and power“
@Ariaelyne
Жыл бұрын
Considering Xerxes specific target was Athens, this was more the Spartans squaring a 'spiritual debt' then anything else.
@Hell_O7
Жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, Sparta did invest a lot on defensive forts to defend their area of influence, which does not include Athens Edit: Since Persia's main target is probably Athens because Athens support Persia's enemy before the Greco-Persia war, Sparta probably did expect just that
@geeljire9247
Жыл бұрын
It's more like their way to appease the gods
@Progamermove_2003
Жыл бұрын
Persia's main target was Athens and Eritrea. Yes the messenger tried to display Persian strength, but it's more likely that they would've come to some sort of diplomatic agreement that guaranteed Sparta's non involvement than anything else.
@resentfuldragon
Жыл бұрын
Greece had wealth and power, but the iranian heartland already had more of that than all of greece. You are overstating how important greece was geopolitically at the time. If you wanted eastern trade then persia, egypt, and the somali coast were the hotspots. Western trade included greece but was less lucrative.
"SPARTANS! WHAT IS YOUR PROFESSION?!" "Messengers."
Xerxes: no no you can die with your friends. No cutting the line
Classic achaemenid moment.
@abhabh6896
Жыл бұрын
Never stoop to your opponents level. - Cyrus The Great (likely)
@OrthoKarter
Жыл бұрын
soyaemenid
@scarymonster5541
Жыл бұрын
Haxamanish in persian Haksha manish in sanskrit?
@cyrusthegreat7030
Жыл бұрын
@@OrthoKarterhow dare you deny the glory of the achaeamnid empire.
@petrospetromixos6962
Жыл бұрын
@@abhabh6896 After doing human sacrifice
"Why would I give up my casus belli just to murder some messenger?"
@Progamermove_2003
Жыл бұрын
His main target was Athens and Eritrea (who had supported a previous rebellion against the Persian rule). And seeing how Sparta was further south from both, it's more likely that he would've tried to come to a diplomatic agreement with them (at least for the time being).
@christopherg2347
Жыл бұрын
@@Progamermove_2003 They offered him a diplomatic solution on a silver plater. All he had to do was take it. He chose not to.
@Progamermove_2003
Жыл бұрын
@@christopherg2347 So you're trying to say that he should've murdered the messengers instead?
@christopherg2347
Жыл бұрын
@@Progamermove_2003 If he wanted peace with sparta, he would have. They had literally travelled to him to make their deaths more convenient.
@Progamermove_2003
Жыл бұрын
@@christopherg2347 I hope you realise that Persian emperor had governers, military vassals, satraps etc. who worked under him. If you could murder a simple harmless messenger who should NOT be harmed according to the diplomatic conventions, than don't your think that his officers would've feared for their lives and started a rebellion? He did what any wise ruler should have done, at least in this one instance.
They should have had that in the movie.
It’s always interesting to see how different the moral codes of ancient peoples were
*Spartans: Shock 😲* *Xerxes: Rock 😎*
the Geniva convention were gods back then lol
Is this where the saying "Don't shoot the messenger!"
This mans art style needs a book
Imagine arguing to die for a cause then get laughed at by the enemy emperor
well because xerxes was the emperor of a multy cultural territory and leonaides was head of a military city state.the 300 hundred in front of 100 thousand wasnt just about the army number but rather other differences in many aspects between them
Spartans: pls kill us King: lmfao get out of here Spartans: Damn it
The fact that he didn’t even kill them adds a whole new layer to this
Must have been a good laugh that day
“CAN A MADMAN KICK! YOU! INTO! THIS! PIT!?” - Leonidas, probably
Imagine being a Spartan elder enjoying your sunny day and wine and seeing the messengers you send to soothe the wrath of the Gods returning to Sparta
spartan 1:”Kill me” xerxes:”later”
@Atlas_high-gaming
5 ай бұрын
This was seen as one the biggest mistakes of all time
It was not Leonidas who killed the ambassadors, it was his predecessor who did the deed among other crimes that freaked out the Spartans and they basically "Epstein'ed" him. Leonidas was the poor schmuck who inherited the mess.
@Progamermove_2003
Жыл бұрын
If that's true, then Leonidas was indeed a hero. He inherited the mess caused by his terrible predecessor and died trying to defend his kingdom.
@petrospetromixos6962
Жыл бұрын
@@Progamermove_2003 Leonidas was hero even if he had murdered the messengers
@Progamermove_2003
Жыл бұрын
@@petrospetromixos6962 Whoever murdered the messengers who were *not* supposed to be harmed by the conventions of the time more or less guaranteed the war with the Persians. That person, whether it was Leonidas or not, couldn't possibly be a hero. My opinion would've been different if Sparta lie to the north of Athens and Eritrea (the main target of the Persians). But being further to the south, it makes more sense to assume that the Persians would've tried to approach a diplomatic solution with them.
@petrospetromixos6962
Жыл бұрын
@@Progamermove_2003 The Persians were coming they already had asked for earth and water, being subservient is just pathetic. The Spartans send the two men not to make peace but to fix an injustice as they viewed it,dont forget they were very religious they didnt go to Marathon in time because it was a religious celebration were they werent supposed to fight ,in the movie they used that celebration case in the battle of Thermopiles instead of Marathon
@Progamermove_2003
Жыл бұрын
@@petrospetromixos6962 All this only to ultimately ally with the Persians in the Peloponesian war?
Spartans:kill us pls Xerxes: *laugh* get the #### out-
“Why are you still alive?” “They laughed at us.” “What?”
Whoa...an ancient burn 😲
@hotpopcorncake
Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the mesager were in the 500 army
This sounds like J. Jonah Jameson laughing his head off when Peter Parker asked if he could be paid in advance.
“It’s not fun if you want me to do it.”
Perfect example of how perspective and every day life concepts and morals changes throughout history. It doesn’t justify any bs lol but this man literally wouldn’t kill his enemies out of spite. Wild
@zombieoverlord5173
5 ай бұрын
Spite and pettiness is a powerful drug
300 isn't based on history but a comic book. Thats why they have goat people
@Joan1Marti
Жыл бұрын
There was not goat people (neither rinhoceros, no bladed arms dudes) in the Frank Miller's comic.
@nessesaryschoolthing
Жыл бұрын
@@Joan1Marti ONce you're telling fiction instead of the historical record, you might as well make it VERY BLATANTLY fiction
@OrthoKarter
Жыл бұрын
yes but they got one thing right: persia sucks at combat and lost
@Joan1Marti
10 ай бұрын
@@OrthoKarter That's also an over simplification.
@Joan1Marti
10 ай бұрын
@@nessesaryschoolthing Yeah, but it totally changes the tone.
The more I learn about this conflict , more I like the Persians than Spartans
@resentfuldragon
Жыл бұрын
Thats why they don't tell you the other side in history, frequently they were the more likable ones. For example, the crusaders your profile name comes from. They don't tell you much about the aftermath of the crusades or the people they were fighting, because the muslim empires gave religious freedom to basically everyone and was overall kinder. The crusaders killed even fellow christians, and betrayed their roman allies completely.
@ifiguredouthowtochangemyna3945
Жыл бұрын
@@resentfuldragon Lmao, the Ottomans granted "religious freedom", in that they had to pay a tax for belonging to their faith, the other ones killed, or converted every single member of another faith they conquered, except merchants, and advisors, of the Jewish faith, who were a big part of their economies. The Crusades were about weakening Islam as a polity, they had nothing to do with actually spreading the faith, of course, the crusaders didn't know that.
@ifiguredouthowtochangemyna3945
Жыл бұрын
@@resentfuldragon Anyway, modern media constantly talks of how evil the crusades were, and how "benevolent" the Muslims were at the time. It's not some hidden fact of history.
@froglifes6829
Жыл бұрын
@@resentfuldragon ¨People always forget that the cursaders raided Croatia...A christain nation..Why? Because they needed money...Search siege of zadar (1202)...
@gamesguy
Жыл бұрын
Tbf the Spartans were particularly horrible. Nobody liked them not even the other Greeks.
that impression was actually on point
Wouldn't that meant Xerxes telling them "Oh no, Bros. You still owe that debts to the gods, and I ain't cancelling that charge on your credit card"
2 spartans: please destroy us Xerexes: *blushes* The twinks are too thirsty these days.
@Narrator06
Жыл бұрын
Fatherless
@castrinecubique983
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@geiannicaballero510
8 ай бұрын
Yo what?? 🤨🤨
@DONKAR
8 ай бұрын
@@Narrator06fr
@william-afton607
7 ай бұрын
😨
Xerxes wanted 100% achievement, not the warp tunnel
@castrinecubique983
Жыл бұрын
A true completionnist
@Jaco059
2 ай бұрын
@@castrinecubique983he failed.
Excellent, "Well, Acktshuallly..." from Herodotus.
They sent a man knowing he would probably die making his declaration. They buy another code. Sent two thinking they had done wrong under their own process. Just goes to show some people value the lives and some know to send expendables
"THIS IS RIDICULOUS!!!" - Xerxes
Everyone knows he fell into the depths, rediscovered ancient Zonai technology, and then proceeded to stage his comeback against Leonidas.
@castrinecubique983
Жыл бұрын
Kohga's origin story
The definition of not giving your enemy what he wants 😂😂😂
“Your currency doesn’t work here” 🔆
Imagine handing your life over to the enemy just for them to laugh then having to go back home and explain the plan failed and you’re alive.
@KallusGarnet
6 ай бұрын
It wasn't genuine 😂😂😂
@KallusGarnet
6 ай бұрын
It wasn't genuine 😂😂😂
Man said naw you stay on bad side of the gods. This is sparta remember 😂
Kevin bouncing around reminds me of when I played video games as a kid and realised there was a jump function. And now
Spartans: sorry to kill your messenger. Now kill us Xerxes: DAFUK??
THIS IS SPA- wait this is an ancient war crime Wait i got 1k likes, wow Its funny that i fixed my spelling so people look like they read it wrong lol
@ReySchultz121
Жыл бұрын
The city of Geneva wasn't even really a thing yet.
@leojosevicaldoo7343
Жыл бұрын
It is Ancient not anchent
@ronmaximilian6953
Жыл бұрын
Diplomatic and religious one.
@cyberrunners2077
Жыл бұрын
More like Geneva suggestion
@calvinmcneil9824
Жыл бұрын
I am thinking that it has to do with the law of Xania (hospitality) you don't harm polite guests
Xerxes: "Nah. Yall can go back. I'd rather wipe out your whole clan. Better yet tell them I'm coming. I want a challenge."
@OrthoKarter
Жыл бұрын
he still lost and got humiliated
@PrayingPanda
Жыл бұрын
@@OrthoKarter no he didn't. Not the war. He did what the Russians currently do, throw enough bodies and you'll win.
@IR.editor2500
Жыл бұрын
@@OrthoKarter he won 💀
@OrthoKarter
Жыл бұрын
@@IR.editor2500 he didnt lol, greece pushed them out and reconquered lost territory, then macedonia clapped them a few years later. cope
@aryaa7069
Жыл бұрын
@@OrthoKarter A huge chunk of the Greeks were still under Persian rule. Your Macedonian "empire" lasted less than 10 years because of your sheer incompetence in administration and then you got conquered and became twinks for the Romans for a 1000 years while Persia just made new empires lmao
Damn i didn't know Xrexes was chill like that
“HHAHAHA!” “Yeah no get lost.”
I remember there was a famous music meme that happened way back when KZreadr was in its infancy back in 2007 and 2008
This is why you gotta play hard to get. "It's not like I want to be killed or anything, baka!"
The captions said “THIS IS SQUATTER”
I imagine the Spartans just arguing on who's going to die, because half of their population wants to, and in the end they just say "you know what, f*ck it" and just send 2