Timestamps: 0:00 Introduction 1:01 Depth of skating at CS Finlandia Trophy Finlandia was amazing! 2:15 getting into the many divisions of Finlandia and how there were showdowns of different skaters from the same federation (i.e. Kostornaia vs Valieva vs Tuktamysheva, and another example Alcantara vs Kailani Craine, you can put that into perspective of most of not all of the skating disciplines; it had to be very stressful for all of them but I was amazed by the skating here in Finlandia which generally in the past wasn’t that great field wise but in 2021 it was like watching a World Championships in all honesty; the depth of skating was incredibly breathtaking, not a moment was I bored watching) now that’s skating. Worlds 2021 to be real was mostly bad some great skating and some very poor skating but then again COVID19 and everything happening what did we expect really. But I was VERY blown away by Finlandia! Thank you Espoo, Finland for putting such an amazing event together!! (Rant over, lol, sorry). 2:45 Laura Barquero/Marco Zandron (Spanish Pairs Team) 2:54 Finlandia Ladies: 3:00 Russia (Aliona-teaching her a lesson? Russian judge placing Kostornaia lower than Loena Hendrickx) 3:51 Russian Federation is over the drama and with Kostornaia and Rozanov (aka Hot Sergei) **I strongly believe that the Seasons FS is just so bad and I love Vivaldi Four Seasons so very much but they did Kostornaia so dirty with that long program and I think the short as well is dreadful as Dave once said that Beth Hart has one good song and the rest is just noise (mentioned again in this video at 9:38) (granted I loved Gracie Gold’s long program from last season “War in my mind” by Beth Hart), I really believe that both programs need to be changed or maybe it’s just too late at this point maybe the damage has been done too severely. I’m just so sad because I love Kostornaia even when she was a junior skating to Stella’a Theme and I thought she was breathtaking to watch. Now it’s more heartbreaking to watch her struggles these last two years after her dominance on the Junior Circuit in the 2018-19 season and the Senior Circuit in the 2019-20 season. I hope she gets PROPER mental health treatment she looked so checked out in the kiss and cry after the FS. Kostornaia does not like her programs. There is VIRTUALLY NO CHOREOGRAPHY ANYWHERE IN THAT FREE, IM STILL WAITING TO SEE IT. 4:05 Kostornaia NOT doing the second 3A at the Russian Test Skates 4:33 Russian and Eteri Bonus 5:47 reference to PCS (Tuktamysheva being higher than both Kostornaia and Valieva) 7:07 Kostornaia was Not supposed to be above Valieva (in short program) however nobody expected Valieva to fall on the triple axel either. 7:54 Kostornaia losing to Tuktamysheva Do you foresee Eteri dumping Aliona if she doesn’t do better this season? 9:06 I agree with Jonathan 12:17 Zagitova 12:34 Valieva, 3A falls, PCS debacle as a senior debut whether it is correct or not. 3 quads in the free and a new world record in both the free and combined total. Technique is waning (very evident on the triple axel), growing at the wrong time. Her SPINS are absolutely breathtaking. Short is like a Storm 2.0 it’s lovely however I wish she could do something more than generic lovely, material hasn’t developed since the Picasso program. She is more talented than what she is getting it’s honestly saddening! Bolero more of the same as what I’ve said before. Not effective but whatever dress was odd and the red gloves need to go it’s very blaring. 16:52 Wakaba (3A) 17:17 Jennifer Kirk 17:43 Sambo 70 risk reward. Backing up with the judges but poor choreography. 18:33 Trusova 18:52 Valieva SS (skating skills) 9.17 in the free program for skating skills. Free leg (what Polina Edmunds said) 19:53 Empress Elizaveta Tuktamysheva, she won the short program!! Silver medal here. I strongly believe that she is making a case for going to the Olympics! I love her short program! I lit my candle for her for both programs and I prayed so hard because there is nobody that I want to succeed than her. I don’t care if the “PCS” was “too high” for some peoples opinions. She was the highest scored on PCS in the free and neck and neck to Kostornaia in the short. A lot of people are not going to agree with me and that’s ok. Everyone has a right to have an opinion and without opinions life would be rather mundane. “The gift that keeps on giving.” Landed 3 Triple axels, you cannot count her out 21:42 Loena Hendrickx 23:43 US ladies, Karen Chen 24:40 brief mentions of Amber, Alisa, Bradie and Mariah 27:36 Amber Glenn (only 3 clean triples, pulled out of Cranberry FS, fall on a downgraded 3A) unfortunately Cranberry set the tone and this event did no favours for Amber. Lovely to watch but this was just disappointing. I love the free program and it has so much momentum since last years nationals performance (2021 nationals). SP is not good. She is exciting. She is on TikTok. 30:00 Dave Ashley Cain did land a 3Lz+3Lo in a small competition back in 2014 as a singles skater yes I do agree it maybe very very hard for pairs. 31:24 Madeline Schizas (gaining experience, biggest competitor would be Kaia Router). I really enjoyed Eva Lotta-Kiibus and Anastasiia Gubanova (former Russian slater now representing Georgia who attempted a 3A at the 2019 Dragon Trophy where Elizaveta won that event I believe after she had her injury unclear but that’s all I remember, correct me if I’m wrong but I vaguely remember this somehow). 32:21 Finlandia Mens Event (Was very interesting to say at the very least) 32:28 Dave LOL Dying!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 33:36 Jason Brown (gold medalist here) (no quad attempt better to play it safe than to add more quads if that wasn’t more evident in the mens SP disaster in many skaters) 36:43 Joshua Farris 39:33 Keegan Messing 44:25 Mikhail Kolyada. Both programs are mediocre. He is so much better than what he was given. He needs to go back to Nureyev (White Crow) it would be more memorable than Schindlers List. Some people have noticed the short program choreography is very similar to last years. He should have run away with this but didn’t. 47:24 Dmitri Aliev 48:17 Donavan Carillo (rough fall on a 1S) 48:30 Camden Pulkinen, more of the same 48:57 🤣🤣🤣🤣 49:08 Papadakis and Cizeron 57:09 Chock and Bates 1:02:48 Sara Hurtado and Kirill Khaliavin 1:03:11 Olivia Smart and Adrian Diaz 1:04:34 Finnish Ice dance team 1:42:23 End of the video This is the end of the timestamps! Enjoy!

@shantarakelian1998

2 жыл бұрын

Timestamps Continued: (sorry it’s broken up but it wouldn’t let me continue, I digress). 1:05:00 Fear and Gibson 1:05:48 Carriera and Ponomarenko 1:07:19 back to Papadakis and Cizeron and Chock and Bates 1:11:35 Finlandia Pairs: 1:12:21 Kirsten Moore Towers and Michael Marinaro (missed opportunity to defeat James and Radford) 1:15:14 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 1:15:15 Vanessa James and Eric Radford (still not behind them but they did beat KMT) Pretentious 1:21:02 Ashley Cain-Gribble and Timothy LeDuc 1:21:18 Jessica Calalang and Brian Johnson 1:22:25 Back to Ashley/Tim 1:26:27 Eteri vs Moskvina (pairs) 1:31:53 Tarasova and Morozov 1:32:54 Mishina and Galliamov 1:33:36 Back to Tarasova and Morozov 1:35:59 back to Laura Barquero and Marco Zandron 1:37:02 What’s coming up next week! Asian Open and then Skate America (there is another event in Hungary next week called the Budapest Trophy; big names for ladies will be Maia Khromykh, Alena Kostornaia, Sofia Samodurova, Anna Shcherbakova, others in ladies Dasa Grm, Alina Urushadze, Anita Osterberg possible that she is Anita Ostlund and Yasmine Kimiko Yamada probably they will round out the top 10 with Regina Schermann as well; UPDATE: Aliona Kostornaia has officially withdrawn from the Budapest Trophy, I will get information on why soon! in mens we have Matteo Rizzo, Dmitri Aliev and Ivan Shmuratko rounding out the possible top 3 contenders for the podium, in ice dance we have Armenian skaters Tina Garabedian and Simon Senecal who will most likely win gold here, they placed 4th at Nebelhorn and qualified a spot for my native country of Armenia 🇦🇲) so that’s next week I guess. Lots happening. Big names for CS Asian Open Trophy: For ladies: Mai Mihara, Kaori Sakamoto, Jenni Saarinen and Nicole Schott For Men: Yuma Kagiyama, Shun Sato, Cha Jun-Hwan, Deniss Vasilievs, and Jin Boyang For pairs: Sui/Han, Peng/Jin For Ice Dance: Wang/Liu Skate America: For mens: Kevin Aymoz, Nam Nguyen, Michal Brezina, Shun Sato, Shona Uno, Daniel Grassl, Artur Danielian, Daniil Samsonov, Nathan Chen, Yaroslav Panoit (this event will be crucial for him and his chances at the Olympics this year and perhaps 4 years from now as well), and Vincent Zhou (came off with a big win at Nebelhorn securing the third US spot), also Adam Siao Him Fa will compete. These are the big names here competing. UPDATE: Yaroslav Panoit withdrew from Skate America and Jimmy Ma has been added to the roster; Daniil Samsonov has withdrawn from Skate America as well due to medical issues. For ladies: Satoko, Kaori, Yuhana, Young You, Yelim Kim, Ekaterina Kurakova, Ksenia, Daria, Alexandra, Amber, Bradie, Audrey 1:40:15 Elvis Stokjo money laundering?? ISU 1:42:20-1:42:23 Outro

@KK-ji1rk

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the time stamps!!

@pwetty4r4

2 жыл бұрын

thanks!

@lynnesau2058

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@AC-zs8su

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you legend!!!😍

Kostornaia should just go back to her 2019/2020 programs. It could mentally just put her in a more empowered state because of the positive associations she must have with the music.

@rywilk

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. Also, there's nothing particularly interesting about her current programs. At least the Twilight program was fun and different.

@Catalina_Estevez

2 жыл бұрын

Also Kostornaia go back Twilight FP and Keep her new SP.

@LexyMay93

2 жыл бұрын

I just can't understand why they won't give her Adios Nonino again or her old R&J program. I thought they were all lovely back then. But at this point, I'll even take Twilight over the current mess because she clearly loved skating to it.

@praetorrus

2 жыл бұрын

@@LexyMay93 Most of the conflict last year happened because she didn't get the music she wanted. This year they gave her what she wanted.

@evanperilstein5308

2 жыл бұрын

@@praetorrus We don't know that for sure. Allegedly she was told to say that by Plushenko and his team.

“Madison looking gorgeous in the snake dress and Evan just twizzling in the background wearing olive green.” 😂

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

❤️❤️❤️

Honestly after watching this comp, I am just more convinced that Lindsay will have a Polina Edmunds moment and make the team, she has the third highest total score of the US ladies and has been one of the only ones delivering mostly clean content plus she made the JGP final , nationals will be interesting!

If I have dozens of candle, I'll light them all for Kostornaia to get her act together and be amazing again. It seems that the chance to get into that Olympic team is getting far and far away

@LisaAllyssa

2 жыл бұрын

How can she get her act together? She follows standard Eteri trajectory. All her girls fall apart in the 3rd year. Trusova might be an exception, but Federation is behind Valieva, so it doesn’t really matter. And Kamila is better all around skater and more consistent. I am interested to see Anna, she is a hot mess during training but always pull herself together for the competition.

I appreciate your feedback concerning Kostornaya and yes, many of her fans, myself included are not seeing the same fiery Kostornaya who topped the phenomenal skating trio known as Three A. During the 2019-20 season. She really looks depleted and I am hoping that she will find the same motivation to execute her signature triple axle again. Because she will not be able to compete against a Valieva nor a Trusova. Even Maya Kromykh is knocking out a quad as well.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

I miss the fire!

@evanperilstein5308

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson I felt she had a bit of fire in the sp, and then didn't have any in the lp.

@gogroregogoror

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, spot on analysis of Kostornaia. I am the biggest fan since Adios Nonino SP, but it seems almost all gone. Yes, there was a sign of a spark in the SP but what the hell was that FS I cant understand. She should go to the Lovely FS, that proved to me that she still has it even in 2021… but honestly she isnt hitting ANY music cues in that Vivaldi with literally ZERO transitions. Do the coaches see it? Or are they doing it on purpose?

@evanperilstein5308

2 жыл бұрын

@@gogroregogoror I think they either gave her an empty program that she doesn't connect with on purpose or it wasn't on purpose but they don't care enough about her to change anything at this point.

@TheReneex

2 жыл бұрын

@@gogroregogoror David and Jonathon are correct. The programs in which they are offering her do not suit her capricious style. They appear a bit daunting and stagnate. And to be quite honest, i wish Elizaveta Tuktamysheva would retire already. I've been watching her for years and her style hasn't changed much. I would rather watch the growth and development of these younger skaters, including Tutberidze's unique camp of phenomenal skaters.

I’m down for any Jason Brown costume as long as he keeps his hair cut. Thank you.

Recognition must be awarded today: David interrupted Jonathan WAY more less than in previous videos.

@Rachel-rs7jn

2 жыл бұрын

I totally noticed that too!! 😄

I still believe in Kostornaya. It was a disappointing skate today, she obviously just gave up after messing up 3A, but she seemed to have the fighting spirit back at the press conference. Said she’s going to go straight onto the treadmill when she gets back, like Eteri told her, to build the stamina, and gonna work on SS, spins, jumps and 3A more to skate clean at Skate Canada. She also talked about how incredibly hard Zagitova and Medvedeva worked in their Olympic season. Maybe it will motivate her. As for the program - was there actually any choreo intended in the FS? Because I’m yet to see any. Unless she totally forgot all of it again, it is literally just her skating (beautifully) in circles. And that dress… 😣

@yohanes2034

2 жыл бұрын

I want to believe in her and the press conference gave me hope, it means that she hasn't gave up yet. In Russia she is the one that I want to make the Olympic team the most. IMO the Vivaldi FS has potential, the music cuts are not bad and it has a nice Chsq moment (in the test skate but it was not there in the Finlandia). They just need to add transitions & choreo between elements. Just don't change the music again, if what people are telling is true that she is slow to memorize programs then changing to a new one would be a bad idea. Also the FS dress is awful, I prefer the previous one as it's more fitted to her. Yeah her SS is still leaps and bounds from her peers. I'd watch her doing crossovers all day rather than some other Russian ladies

@tranquilitytranquility1407

2 жыл бұрын

@Yohanes EK Yes, I agree with you, changing the programs again would be madness! She had 6 last year and that DEFINITELY didn’t help. It is what it is now. She needs to concentrate on getting the stamina, the elements and perfecting these programs and Danny G needs to add some bloody choreo into them. But the dress definitely needs a rework, that thing around her neck, urgh….

@yohanes2034

2 жыл бұрын

@@tranquilitytranquility1407 also the low part of the dress is weird but the biggest offender is the neck design. I am even nore worried if the program was actually made like that, I hope that Aliona forgot again. Because if so, I don't think her team would have any incentive to rework the program. They have 6 girls, Aliona is not the front runner, and hearing gossip they seem to be in bad relationship right now.

@embeth446

2 жыл бұрын

I think they could change the long to the Lovely program she did in Eteri’s show. She already knows it. It suited her well. Gave similar overall vibe to the twilight. It offers a little lyrical and a little sass. Agree the Vivaldi choreography is literally nonexistent. She’s skating around in circles to this incredibly fast violin music. It makes no sense. The dress is awful. I can only assume they don’t give a crap about her programs or how well she does.

@lc4822

2 жыл бұрын

You know Dany will say it was intricately choreographed but she just left everything out cuz she's lazy

Kostornaia has the same checked out and terrified expression that Zagitova had at the end of 2018, beginning of 2019, when all those “pray for Alina” videos exploded…

While obviously one would prefer for Schizas to have had a clean short program, I was really heartened at how well she fought through the difficulties; she had a low landing on the Lutz but still went for the 3T as the second part of the combination (it was UR, but that's better than doubling or singling it or not getting a combination at all), and she literally tripped on the entry to the triple loop but still did it. None of the other senior women in Canada have that kind of competitive mindset.

Two TSL episodes with Dave and Jonathan in one day, a real Sunday treat! Happy Birthday Jonathan!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

For me, the biggest surprise in the ladies was Gubanova! Her running edge and movement quality were astoundingly good and I really think she deserved much higher pcs than she received.

@yohanes2034

2 жыл бұрын

Me too, she slipped under the radar for me amongs the Russian ladies. But now she can truly show her skating in international events. Not sure about the scores though, the pcs was very low for the performance she gave. I haven't watched the entire video but Dave and Jonathan didn't mention anything about Gubanova and it made me sad 🥲

@yohanes2034

2 жыл бұрын

@Nathaniel Walker I see, I didn't pay attention to junior that year. This is why skaters who compete for Russia lost motivation to regain their jumps post puberty because when they do get consistent, they lost out to prepubercent girls. At least she competes for other country and we get to see her compete internationally even though she may be underappreciated score wise.

@tatianamokienko

2 жыл бұрын

@@yohanes2034 what about Tuktamysheva, who is 24 years old?

@yohanes2034

2 жыл бұрын

@@tatianamokienko She is a special case. You see, she has great technique on her jumps and she even managed to relearn her 3A (and got it more consistent). You'll hard to press another girls who will survive with long career doing so many ultra-c elements. Most of them do not have solid foundation of triples and training ultra-c everyday has high risk of injury.

Kinki and Tokyo regionals also happened this weekend in Japan. Satoko won Tokyo regionals with a total score of 208.85. Kaori had several mistakes in the FS but still won Kinki regionals with a total score of 192.14, with Mana in 2nd with 184.14.

I'm almost mad at Karen and her coaches at this point. Those underrotations have been a problem for years. No reason to have not made a change to address them, even if that meant sending her to someone else to work on jumps.

@youarestronger

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah drives me nuts as to why she didnt find a proper jump coach like Ghislain or Mishin

@yenglor691

2 жыл бұрын

She has been like that for years though. Not surprised.

@rop888

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody Tammy coaches can rotate. They need to do something about this.

@joeyartk

2 жыл бұрын

Karen is kind of like Satoko in Japan. Very good at everything but jumps. Unfortunately in skating today, jumps are by far the biggest thing.

@Plaspos

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeyartk karen at least has the big jumps unlike Satoko so she gets good GOE when she is rotating them. This skate was an improvement over her last few free skates because the Eu+3S was rotated for once and the -3T was only q. Had she done the 3Lo+2T (~7.2 points) instead of 3Lo

I actually am worried about Kostornaia's mental health at this point. That would explain why she seems so checked out.

@youarestronger

2 жыл бұрын

Skating after Valieva must have been a mental challenge as it would for anyone

@jekicolin8036

2 жыл бұрын

@@youarestronger yeah she definitely heard Kamila’s 249 total score

@sfs6501

2 жыл бұрын

@@youarestronger but since they train at the same rink, I'd expect Aliona to be aware that she might not beat Kamila at the point she herself hasnt restored the 3A

@youarestronger

2 жыл бұрын

@@sfs6501 yes of course she knows reality but seeing it on a competition scoreboard makes it real and more devastating perhaps.tough girl but still a girl

@hannibaljustincase9985

2 жыл бұрын

@@youarestronger I mean, she is in the same place that Anna and Sasha were in 2019. there always will be a bigger fish.

Karen’s sp, while pretty to the eye, is generally the same choreography movements she has every year.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

💯

Gosh, why is the packaging of every single Eteri girl so incredibly terrible this season - when for the Olympic cycle both Zagitova and Medvedeva had really beautiful costumes. Yall think they're just stalling until they see who's going to the Olympics, and they'll give them the better dresses? Because I sure hope none of the girls are wearing their final looks 😬

@embeth446

2 жыл бұрын

Agree, Eteri girls are in no danger of being named best dressed. They’ve been bad for several years. Their costumes are always either too busy, too heavy, too long, too something. Why can’t they just go simple and elegant? I did like Aliona’s hair for the short though. Something fun and different.

@JosedeJezeus

2 жыл бұрын

someone in the dress department is getting too "creative".....

Amber should try switching coaches. Amber’s really talented but it’s always the same story and the same C-list packaging every year with her.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

It is too late at this point.

Aliona is a contemporary skater and she excels in contemporary music.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@katerinabrave2980

2 жыл бұрын

However, she was insisting on this year music by herself :(

@ileana823100

2 жыл бұрын

@@katerinabrave2980 she should go back to her twilight fp . She nailed that. And had fun

@katerinabrave2980

2 жыл бұрын

@@ileana823100 Agree!!! But she was rooting for current SP and FP😓

@hellsbellsmichelle

2 жыл бұрын

Yes - so true

Unpopular opinion: I don't think Valieva's Picasso program was that good. In fact, I think it was her weakest sp. There were WAY too many leg kicks in that program and her movements were way too fast for the music. The choreography was just extremely busy and didn't match the music. I liked last season's sp the most. Even though I don't like Eric Radford, I think the music was less boring than the music for this season's sp.

Literally laughed out loud during the discussion on the new Chock/Bates programs when Jonathan says he wasn’t sure where we were going with Madisons costume “there was a butterfly on it.. but she was also kind of trying to be a sexy bug..” and then watching Daves hilarious facial reactions

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@osmantorresximenesjunior7020

2 жыл бұрын

it was cringey. the program was tacky and the mask of zorro is great concept? come on! I personally appreciate chock and bates bold move.

@JoshuaFazeli

2 жыл бұрын

@@osmantorresximenesjunior7020 Honey, it’s Daft Punk, and they are Fabulous. Olympic podium contenders for sure. Giles + Poirier are lovey skaters but that Free Dance music is cheesy and Baby Boomer - esque. They are playing it safe for the Olympic season. Haven’t seen Hubbell + Donahue’s FD yet. Haven’t seen Stepanova + Bukin’s FD yet. Vicky + Nicky are channeling 2003-2006 Free Dance vibes with that music. The judges will inflate, of course. The speed and twizzles will need to be there.

Hendrix really backed up her worlds performance. She is probably the to non Russian and non Japanese woman. Karen May get the third spot if Bradie has lost too much time to injury. Lindsey has a stronger chance than I would have thought possible a month ago. Thanks for a long recap

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Loena looks great!

It’s a shame the situation Kostornaia is in with the Eteri camp. To have a skater who is capable of so much more and to give her these crappy vacant programs during an Olympic season. It’s just such a waste. I don’t care how much they dislike her. She’s their student. They’re adults and professionals. Give her actual choreography or tell her to go elsewhere. It’s so odd. Anna, Maia, Daria … all the rest of them have typical Danny G programs. Yes she’s not connecting with the music but also there’s literally no choreography connected to the music either. Wouldn’t the federation give feedback about that in addition to just the technical content?

U didn’t mention the JGP. I like Isabeau but I’m still hoping she gets more speed and gets her chest off her thigh when she takes off on the lutz & flip. She bends so far fwd 🤦‍♀️. She’s very musical, which is refreshing to see.

@larissakoroleva

2 жыл бұрын

I liked her!

I don't think Eteri and Danny G were mad at Kostornaia for not doing the second 3A at Test Skates. It looked like she had never planned on doing a second 3A. I read they were mad at her because she forgot the footwork (which you could tell because it looked like she forgot what she was doing midway through the step sequence). Either way, she didn't do what she was supposed to do.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Incorrect. There was a discussion with the federation about it.

@SamKreinberg

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson Kostornaia said that they planned ONE triple axel for test skates FS, then she came from the ice Eteri said “wow, with such axel you can jump two!”. Nobody attacked her for axel, lol. The whole plan “If one happens then jump two “ is for competitions.

@insi4547

2 жыл бұрын

@@SamKreinberg hmm...once Alena was off the ice Eteri said 'with such an axel you should have done a second one, too. But you did not even consider it' so she was mildly scolded imo:D

@user-tz2fx1cu8v

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSkatingLesson no, your information is incorrect. If you could fully understand Russian, you could of listened exactly what Eteri said to her. She said about step sequence and regarding axel she said: “with such a great first axel you should do the second one”. If you read Aliona’s interview you will get that they were mad that she forgot the step sequence. Stop spreading false rumors and pretending as if you know smth, you look foolish for people who know the truth.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-tz2fx1cu8v there is information we are privy to about what happened after the competition when the skaters met with the federation to evaluate the program and plan for the season.

Funny how you talked about Jason’s bauer, and didn’t mention Kamila’s which was fantastic, as well as how her presentation skills grew in both programs, the smile on the step sequence in free program is fire 🔥

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

It has to deal with where his ina bauer is placed on the music. Jason's is placed at a swell, which enhances the overall picture. This is a difference in North American vs. Russian program choreography/construction.

@nenavujicin7882

2 жыл бұрын

It's interesting how everyone is delighted with Jason and his victory- although he's an excellent artist on ice, he's not technically perfect ( a problem with the axel and lutz technique, programs without quadruples,..) while everyone is ready to criticize Kamilla, even for the smallest detail. i'll never understand some ''critics''.

@user-tz2fx1cu8v

2 жыл бұрын

@@nenavujicin7882 exactly!!! I understand to hear that from some lonely haters, but from tsl speakers I was expecting to hear more constructive discussion, but unfortunately it was very bias(

@nenavujicin7882

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-tz2fx1cu8v , i've noticed that fans ( mostly from USA and Canada) don't like Russian school of skating, but their critique isn't based on some strong arguments. Everyone ''blah-blah,..'' about ''Eteri bonus'', but Jason even fell and didn't get a deduction.

My heart goes to Kostornaia. It is one thing to perform poorly to a good programme but this is so clearly not designed to be doing her any favours. And how can you skate well when you know noone actually wants you to do well from the very beginning.

So true about Kostornaya. Unfortunately! But, guys, Kamilla Valiyeva (emphasis on i, by the way) is so special. Her hands, her movements, her agility, her spins. I think you just dont get her type of personality. But even apart from personality, she is the closest to classical ballet. And for me it's just esthetically pleasing to watch her perform. Hey, not to mention she can do quads and 3 axel. Since when it has stopped being special?! 😄 P.s. listened again - you were talking about skating skills not being special... I guess. I'm not an expert of course..

@patee101

2 жыл бұрын

Very good point! I check in here only to pump up my blood pressure (instead of having a strong cup of coffee), 'cause what these guys are always ranting about the Russian ladies is total bullshit.

@KateKabrinsky

2 жыл бұрын

her gliding is not the best in bussiness (but not bad nono), but her jump exits look amazing

@diademerouge

2 жыл бұрын

@@patee101 So funny about blood pressure. I had an extra 'edgy' workout this morning due to the same. I guess it's true hate only sprouts hate. It's best to disconnect. For me at least. The fewer views these two get the better for humanity and our overall health. They don't add much to the conversation anyway.

@QQ-wl6yt

2 жыл бұрын

Kamila is head and shoulders above any other skater, and I'd even argue that she's the best of all time already. If you're curious to check it out, she reminds me of Irina Tchachina, Russian rhythmic gymnast (look up her 2001 and 2003 videos, especially, maybe 2000, too)... It's like the difference between a male principal dancer with huge power and agility and grace juxtaposed to the garden variety ballerina doing the same fouette turns as ever...

Happy Birthday Jonathan! And yeah to Sara Hurtato and Dave Lease's "Polish" blues, so here for it! I also find Sara Hurtato's Beyonce in the short program so awesome, she's great. It feels like if Sara and Olivia could skate together they would make an amazing Spanish dance team, lol.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

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i like the chock/bates ‘contact’ fd! it’s memorable and the lifts are sensational. kudos to them for picking daft punk music i haven’t heard a million times before.

I actually found myself really enjoying kamilla's short program, there are some moments where they really put her flexibility on display to the music and it just feels really olympic and grand!

@larissakoroleva

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!! At least someone said this!

thank you for the videoo!!! mostly agree with your comments. but overall, my comment is to say Im so proud of Leona Hendrickx

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

The sports doctor sitting with Kamila in the kiss and cry was the best part 😂

@almourie

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I was so confused and thought danny g had gotten a wig 😭

@yohanes2034

2 жыл бұрын

@@almourie lol dani G with a wig. Although seeing the doctor up close (that was the first time I saw him not standing in the shadow beeing creepy), he seemed quite normal lol

@lynnesau2058

2 жыл бұрын

Omg yes 😂

Thank you for all of the great content! Two videos and a CYA in one day - you’re spoiling us :) I agree about Lilah and Lewis. They are keeping me excited about the future of dance. Dance is missing a great rivalry like that past few Olympic quads. A believable rivalry - not a manufactured one like Nicky/Vicky vs Gabi/Gui that none of us are really buying because it’s no question who’s best.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

Happy Birthday Jonathan!! I turn 40 this week too! Another great episode. Hope to see you both at Skate America!

Johnathan, may there be many vases in your near future! Happy Birthday!! 🎁🎊🎈

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

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I’m going to say it: Karen Chen cannot rotate her jumps. I am over people arguing she is such a beautiful skater over her necessary technical elements. It’s great that she skated like she could have won 2007 US Nationals. Jenni Saarinen’s SP was so beautiful and she can rotate her jumps in that program.

@jquibbler

2 жыл бұрын

Amber cannot get any elevation, either. She got around on the loops. What is going on with Amber? Is it nerves and she's just muscling through them? It's like Amber cannot get off the ice ... very worried for her.

@Ogusername-h7e

2 жыл бұрын

The same could be said about Jason Brown. Except he may even go farther back.

@trylogic4084

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ogusername-h7e What do you mean by that?

@rahnumaafrin8398

2 жыл бұрын

Last year was Alyssa done with her career, and Mariah Bell was the one can’t rotate and scrutinized by every one. This year Karen Chen is the new victim and target who can’t rotate. And absolutely don’t deserve the Olympic spot according to so called experts who can’t even do single jumps. Troll like Dave who guaranteed that Alyssa Liu won’t make the Olympic couple of weeks ago proven wrong. According to troll like you and Dave flavored of the season is Lindsey only because can jump. Even if she is young and lovely but I would put my money on Karen over Lindsey. First of all she couldn’t even score better than her junior competitors who didn’t medal gold. What makes you think she will be well received internationally in senior competition just cause she can rotate jumps and land. That girl skate like some body is holding her at gunpoint to skate, compete like most of Eteri girls no emotion at all. Remember international judges willing to give Karen 200+ scores in Finlandia only with 3-2 and including all the carrots in a pretty competitive deep fields. Where as they won’t be that generous with Lindsey, even with Brady who has been consistent for last four years. This is early November and by January I hope all the US ladies will bring their A game.

To fly on any flight or take a train within Canada you have to be fully vaxxed and for any international flight originating in Canada. I imagine Keegan will be getting vaccinated unless he wants to drive home to Alaska from any Canadian competition.

As Spaniard I am so happy with the Spanish showings!. Jonathan, the pair is quite new. Barquero broke with her partner a couple of years ago (Maeztu) and this couple has solidified this year. They are doing so great! Plus, what a battle between the Ice Dance couples! The H/K long is not really memorable. But S/D need to improve the pattern.

Happy Birthday Jonathan! Thank you for always sharing your love for figure skating💛💚💙

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Double Sunday fun-day with two topflight videos!!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

What did you think of Gubanova’s skating and score?

57:00 the green and black dress madison wears is a reference to billie’s signature green and black hair. i was confused at first too. i think they need to change the silhouette of the outfit because it’s too burlesque.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@PeiwenTanbassoon821

2 жыл бұрын

I wish the whole look is more edgy. Like with straight slicked hair.

@thewaitisogre

2 жыл бұрын

@@PeiwenTanbassoon821 yes. it needs to be edgier. billie loves hoodies so she could incorporate a hoodie into a look.

So far I haven't seen a dance team choose to do more upbeat free cuz of the RD genre and I'm feeling the dance free is going to be the most snooze event this season even when some programs are actually great...

Aliona is full of joy, hope that joy is enough to fell in love with blues and vivaldi and those costumes🥲

Yay!!!! Happy 40th Jonathan. I want to say what a really interesting event. The season is young yet. There were some skaters at I love and programs that feel so empty that I did not like. Am i the 3rd person to write.

@KP-zd3hc

2 жыл бұрын

Whut???? He's 40!?!? I thought he was my younger!

This episode is so good I am watching it for the 3rd time and I am still laughing! It's my top 3 favorites along with the 2020 4CC recap and 2019 US nationals with Scott Dyer 😁

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

what did polina say about the free leg?

I love the Fear + Gibson and yet think their technique is clearly not as strong as H+B and FB+S. So curious to see how things work out this season among these three couples!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed.

@DSQueenie

2 жыл бұрын

I think at this point the judges have them well above H&B, rightly or wrongly. FB&S I think are still considered above F&G, the Canadanes were only 0.16 behind F&G at Worlds and like you said they are much stronger on the ice. I think the deciding factor between them will be the programs.

It's super disappointing that Amber doesn't have the material to bring out her pizzazz and personality, but this competition really showed just how unprepared she is for the level of skating she needs to be on. And damn, KMT-what a squandered opportunity, total disaster.

@pwetty4r4

2 жыл бұрын

I know! I was really rooting for her but it is not looking good at all :(

There’s a video of Liza and Kamila doing a side-by-side triple lutz-triple toe loop combo and the delay in Kamila’s combo and change of edge is even more glaring. Liza finishes her entire combo before Kamila has even taken off on the toe loop.

@yohanes2034

2 жыл бұрын

IMO she should not be getting more than plus 3 if she needs to reposition the toe in every jump combo. It should not tick the "effortless throughout, including rhythm in jump combination" hence GOE is capped at plus 3. Every 3T she does do not have good rhythm. Other skaters who pause like that is usually they land on flat edge or tilt forward.

@asok9929

2 жыл бұрын

Kamila has extremely long legs and she is generally taller than Liza, she naturally needs more time. It is impossible any other way. You have to take that into consideration.

@mai3334

2 жыл бұрын

@@asok9929 according to google, Kamila is one inch taller than Liza.

@asok9929

2 жыл бұрын

@@mai3334 well perhaps, can’t be sure about that. although I believe she is even taller now. Plus if you add the fact that her legs are longer, that’s at least 2 inches or 5 cm more…

@nl887

Жыл бұрын

@@mai3334 Google isnt always true but kami has long legs compared to alot of figure skaters

I love the Papadakis/Cizeron RD. Innovative, those twirled killed me. Gabby was spectacular. No cringe factor like a lot of the RD. I agree with Dave, the FD is growing on me. Was looking for Tango moves, but I see now that it is deconstructed or abstract. I call it a balletic tango. The skills were very good. I also really like Fear/Gibson FD. Happy Birthday Jonathan.

The fact that Trusova’s Vivaldi program when she still was junior is much better than the one choreographed for Kostornaia for OLYMPIC SEASON doesnt sit right w me. Does it mean that it is more Trussova style or was Kosto given a really poor choreography. What is wrong :(

@saraehtor7753

2 жыл бұрын

@Nathaniel Walker I find that program very well interpreted by Trusova not just jumps. She was way more interpreting as junior. Now not so

@evanperilstein5308

2 жыл бұрын

@@saraehtor7753 What? There was no interpretation. Trusova has never known how to interpret music, even as a junior. She showed no expression in either her face or her movement. Unfortunately, Kostornaia doesn't seem into the Vivaldi's Four Seasons program and isn't giving much expression either. Both Vivaldi programs were boring and empty, imo.

@SergejKrolik

2 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 Did you watch Trusova's Big Spender or Kill Bill programs, I wonder? There were quite a lot of interpretational moves by Trusova - which fit to the music accents as well. I am not even talking about Frida program where she has lot of interpretation in movements of her body. So what you said is just not true.

@saraehtor7753

2 жыл бұрын

@@evanperilstein5308 Please, me and a lot of people who i know already agreed that Trusova had more interpretation when she was junior. It means that interpretation is a subjective thing. Just because you don’t see anything in Sasha does not mean it does not exist. Facial expression are some very overrated part of interpretation. I dont think it is always necessary. Some people are able to speak with their eyes. By the way, Trusova’s Frida is one of the best SP’s i ever saw, never saw her emoting and interpretating that mature before.

46:00 Kolyada - Absofu*inglutely. That White Crow (Nureyev) music. He transcended that music, like Jason does with Sinnerman.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

I hope he brings it back!

@QQ-wl6yt

2 жыл бұрын

And the World Championships FP outfit with the tank top underneath(!)

Yay! Happy 40th Jonathan!

@TheSaintbx

2 жыл бұрын

Happy 40th Jonathan!!! 🎉

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Is anyone talking about Kaitlin Hawayek / Jean-Luc Baker? Where do they fit in? I must apologise - I'm no good with "W"s

Chock and Bates have said that they plan on going on: they will not retire after the OG...

@sophiabudge6114

2 жыл бұрын

Really, that's surprising, it's their 3rd and his 4th Olympics. Where did they say that?

@tsoyfamily5617

2 жыл бұрын

I would love it!

I just hope we see two perfect lion king skates at the Olympics

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

💯

YES, More mesh for you next year Dave-- always more MESH!

I love the new Chock/Bates free! It's obviously very conceptual, they explain in the podcast that she's an alien and he's an astronaut and the dance is about them making "contact" :)

Two this and that's, and a cya...the best sunday. thank you!!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

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yay already posted? wasn't expecting it til tomorrow :DDD

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

I still want Kostarnaia to make for Olympic team... But I agree with everything you said...

Moment of the week: Hendrix over Korstonaia... it's a 😱 moment

@anuniemoose2209

2 жыл бұрын

She deserved it 🤷‍

@trylogic4084

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-pz5yx4pb3e I enjoyed Gubanova's free skate more than Eva-Lotta's. Gub emoted throughout, I believed her, and her skating is smoother. I was surprised that she finished behind Eva.

I totally agree with Jonathan’s analysis of Keegan’s FP! That clapping was so loud and distracting anyone could lose not just focus but the sound itself! He was very nice and polite not to say that at K&C.

@yohanes2034

2 жыл бұрын

It got annoying for me too. The audience clapped for more than half of the program like come on. Home is also not suitable for a long program just because how repetitive it sounds

The PCS scores in this event especially ladies was such a joke

Happy Birthday to you and many happy returns Jonathan

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this since I saw the FS scores of the ladies at Finlandia! Hmm, looks like an Eteri sweep of the Olympic podium is not as easy? Welcome to the 40s Jonathan! I really enjoyed how you guys expressed your frustration over the programs! Hopefully the skaters are getting the nerves and the mistakes out before the GP starts in 2 weeks

I think Marie France has been really smart when constructing Chock/Bates programs. Let's be honest, technically they're not the best skaters : soooo slow on the ice, Madison edges aren't the best, so much two feets skating... But with this code, they can have a level 1 element and +5 goe, so who cares about great edges? It's a really smart move: let Madi shine, let grab goe and the the best level they can get, I think that's their plan. I don't mind the short dance, but I don't like her costume. The free dance...I don't understand It: they look like they want to mimic the snake dance concept, but they haven't quite reach It.

I love Keegan but your comment that he’s the MOST Canadian was hilarious! 🤣 Let’s remember his flag assist on the podium ❤️ Greetings from Canada!

Would anyone need translated timestamps? Just wondering if it is needed because I can run it on google translate

Very interesting to me with Kostornaia. Even with eating choreography, the audience seemed to go crazy for her at test skates. At times, it was almost fanatical. I’m sure she has a definite following that gets crazy, but the audience had hoped she was back. She is loved by many and hated by some, but aren’t they all? She’s faster on the ice there. She gets so slow now when she has doubts and it just seems to create more problems in what is causing those doubts- jumps. I just hope she figures it out. I’ve accepted that some skater I like won’t make OG! Fine, but I need some fierceness for Grand Prix finals at least or Russian nationals and from every single one! They cannot coast AT ALL like some of the top ladies in other countries. They have to fight every single time because the depth is there and not just with Eteri and not just at the senior level. Many juniors are doing content on par with or more complex than seniors. It’s a TES arms race and even PCS. Liza realized it was an Achilles heel and worked in BOTH areas.

I cannot agree about Valieva she is magnificent she takes my breath away

@damirkhaliullin4425

2 жыл бұрын

They don’t like any favors from Tutberidze team as I’ve noticed . I don’t think it’s about Valieva lol

TWO EPISODES IN THE SAME DAY?!?! You truly are doing the lord’s work. ❤️

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

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I remember that the network got the rights to use "London Calling" by The Clash for their London Olympic programming without actually reading the lyrics. The song was a reaction to the 3 Mile Island nuclear incident and the Cold War. So suddenly it was time to use "Home".

@etherealtb6021

2 жыл бұрын

You mean like, "London is drowning and I live by the river"? 😂 I think they did use it in teasers and I was like 😳! I liked Home the first 30 times I heard it during the Olympics. But by time 150, about 4 days in, I was so over it! 😂

I really enjoy Eric and Vanessa's pair skating. I think they are very lovely and chose great music (as in, the music matches my listening and watching preferences). I wasn't expecting a lot given how new the partnership is so they are definitely surpassing my expectations. Beating MTM at Finlandia is a pretty big deal for a new team. I really don't think they deserve all the hate that they are receiving.

I think Valieva kicking her free leg so high on landings does not help but only hinders the image of a nicely extended free leg.

@shantarakelian1998

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@liberty0622

2 жыл бұрын

You need to use all tools 🔧, to win,

@shantarakelian1998

2 жыл бұрын

@@liberty0622 I agree

@youarestronger

2 жыл бұрын

Her long especially is a snoozefest. Kick up to the moon, it makes no difference. And her jumps look wonky. I am amazed at how she gets height on some of them. I think it's the arms and ballet training. I wonder if it will last through to Beijing

@shantarakelian1998

2 жыл бұрын

@@youarestronger totally agree. Only time will truly tell.

Lol Philip Philips “Home” as THE gymnastics anthem of 2012 Olympics. Totally remember that!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

Kostornaia’s choreography is terrible and she really does look slow! Hearing Valieva’s scores just before Kostornaia skated probably didn’t help her confidence. Tarasova/Morosov may be mostly winning since moving to Eteri BUT they still haven’t had two clean programs. Karen Chen still can’t deliver a clean (fully rotated) pgrm, BUT she is so well received internationally that she still gets the nod 🤷‍♀️. The US ladies need help!!!! Amber needs another coach and a sports psychologist.

@tatianamokienko

2 жыл бұрын

Are you an expert in choreography?

Happy Birthday Jon!!!!!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Mana Kawabe landed her 3A at a Japanese domestic event, as did two other juniors, and a Novice A girl landed a 4T

@joeyartk

2 жыл бұрын

In an Olympic year with the weak Japanese Fed going against the Russian and US feds, I doubt 3A will make a difference for Mana.

Hey! Any feedback on Zhenya Semenenko?

Happy birthday Jonathan!!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

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I don't think that Jason will ever attempt a quad in the short program because it's to risky for him. If I am right on this trying a quad in the short and doubling it counts as a zero. Correct? Jason would probably attempt a quad or two in the long program only, if he attempts a quad in the long program at all. He said in an interview with a Russian outlet this weekend that he is working on the quads.

@anka6356

2 жыл бұрын

He also said he will attempt it at Skate Canada in two weeks. In the free of course.

Happy Birthday. NyC moms loves both you boys. Thank you so much.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

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Any chance you can share Hugo’s number for music editing?

I didn't think we would get a This and That today, yay!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's a bit early to really worry about Karen. Yes, it's fortunate for her that many of her competitors look like crap, but I think historically speaking Karen has never really looked great in the season until Nationals. If anything I actually think she looks more solid at this point in the season than she normally does.

in one russian TV programme they said that Alyona herself wanted blues for the SP - so possibly she does not know what she wants herself :(

I really like LeDuc and Cain, and their skating. I just hope they can make it back to their 2019 level. I don't know what to think about Calalang & Johnson.

I am from Belgium so I am biased but my god I loved Loena here!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

I wanna know why Liza isn't doing a 3T anywhere in the free. That's That's extra point or 2 that could really bring her up.

Isn't this Valieva's first senior competition? When I saw her I was thinking, she doesn't have joy. But then someone said it's her first senior level competition, and I thought, well, that's a factor, plus she's growing and probably very nervous.

@MC-pm3gp

2 жыл бұрын

Her first senior international competition. This competition is the first I saw her actually smile during her routine. She seemed genuinely happy. Hopefully she's been working on a new program because she used this one last season and definitely wore it out. Kind of hard to show any kind of joy to a program like this lol

@rop888

2 жыл бұрын

She's a million times less nervous than she used to be. Go watch her junior programs. She legit looked like she'd cry every time she stepped on the ice and didn't have many facial expressions. In Bolero she at least tries to sell the end of the program. And maybe it's just me, but people who plaster on a big smile on their face when it's not necessary kind of bug me. Mariah did this and Alysa does as well.

1:05:00 Fear and Gibson - OMG - I have been waiting for a British team like this for years. She's only 22, he's around 26/27 - they could have 2 more Olympic cycles (after Beijing) in them. I don't think they'll medal this time around, but 2026 in Italy? Hell yes! Can I see an Italian FD for them in 2026 - of course I can. But you can guarantee it will be killer music choice and edit, it will be left-field and it will be full of sass. I'm so there for that. I can feel Lilah channelling her inner-Ashley. And I love it. That KISS RD is just sublime, and I hope the judges can feel it. I always feel that they're down-marked. I feel that if their names were something else or if they were from another Country - they'd be given far better results. Before I saw the Lion King FD I was concerned it might be childlike and cheesey (like going to a Novice event) and had thought they might have been better sticking with Vogue. But I was wrong, it's magnificent. That dress is phenomenal. And Lewis's costume subtle and magnificent at the same time. Love it love it love it.

@fionan7311

2 жыл бұрын

I like them too - but they are not undermarked. What they do have every season are fresh programs that showcase their strengths and youthful energy. Their technique is not quite up there yet, but definitely euro and worlds medals in the future.

Hurtado and Diaz, I really still miss them.

We have Budapest trophy this week too, Shcherbakova, Khromyh, samodurova and kostornaia! Oct. 14-17!

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

Very exciting!

@flywings111

2 жыл бұрын

Kostornaia is out, she WD

How is Loena Hendrickx' free skate cultural appropriation when I'm not hearing the same comment about Tuk, who has the same kind of music, choreography, and even a harem-type dress? And there was nothing "cultural" about Loena's costume, and I think there should be, tastefully done. Actually, the first song in Loena's program is by Loreena McKennitt, an Irish woman, who put some Middle Eastern flavor in it. Oh yeah, and then there was Zagitova's Egyptian program. I think all of them were beautiful, and that people who cry "cultural appropration" at the the slightest little hint of culture in a program are ridiculous. I don't mean this to sound like a rant, I'm not really angry, I just had to say something.

@Ksahdia

2 жыл бұрын

I have a South Asian background and didn't mind Kwan in a sari design or Davis/White with their Bollywood skate. It's not like they claimed to have designed these themselves adn given them new names.

@trylogic4084

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ksahdia Right. If they did a poor job, or made it comical or campy, that's disrespectful, and may be considered cultural appropriation. In my opinion, anyway. When Davis and White did their Indian program, people went crazy over the Internet about it being cultural appropriation. But everybody from India whose comment I read said that they loved it. So I figure if the people from that country are fine with it, then everyone else needs to shut up. 😊

@KoraimaLynn

2 жыл бұрын

Alina Zagitova es musulmana

@Ksahdia

2 жыл бұрын

@@KoraimaLynn Being Muslim does not equate being Egyptian.

@KoraimaLynn

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ksahdia en Egypto son musulmanes, ya no existen egipcios nativos ni cultura egipcia en el pueblo que en realidad son descendientes árabes que ocuparon ese territorio; existe la cultura musulmana; sólo el Gobierno Egipcio mantiene por turismo la "antigua cultura egipcia y faraonica" y tener ingresos de mucho dinero; para el pueblo eso es pecado mantener el culto a los muertos, si por ellos fuera destruirian todo pero debe mantenerse la "imagen", yo lo supe por lo que contaba Nelsy que vivió algunos años en Egipto y ella también creia que la gente conocia la historia antigua y de los faraones pero a ella la sacaron de su error cuando le dijeron que para ellos aquello no tenia ninguna relevancia ni siquiera lo estudiaban en el colegio y menos estaban de acuerdo

Regarding Kamila scores just for your info: Kihira received 35+ components in her first adult season in SP. No one was embarrassed by the fact that at the last start in the juniors of the JWC 2018 (8th place) its components in the SP were 28+ ... and in the FP - 57+. During the offseason, they miraculously grew to 67+. No one bits her in terms of the growth of 🍄 in components during the transition from juniors to adults.

@joeyartk

2 жыл бұрын

I doubt it was in her first competition though. Probably toward the end after she established herself.

@user-tz2fx1cu8v

2 жыл бұрын

@@joeyartk no, I have checked the scores.

@flywings111

2 жыл бұрын

Rika received 35 PCS at GPF, not at her first competition unlike Valieva. Rika only got 32 PCS at home competition at NHK. It is different if a skater receives such high scores so early in the season like at Finlandia because those scores will only go up from here. It will be 38 by the Olympics...

@user-tz2fx1cu8v

2 жыл бұрын

@@flywings111 yeah, such a big difference 32 or 35. Of course, Kamila will get higher, because she improves her performance with every competition. Karen Chen already skates many years and what? Does she improves? No. Where is the logic than? Are we going to give score in regards to the skating skills or to how many years someone skated?

After Finlandia, Lindsey has a real chance at making this us olympic team.

@TheSkatingLesson

2 жыл бұрын

100%

@rop888

2 жыл бұрын

Her downgraded 3a looks better than Amber's attempt. Amber is really not even in the discussion regardless of how she keeps promoting herself everywhere. I'm feeling Alysa, Bradie and Lindsay at this point.

@Ogusername-h7e

2 жыл бұрын

Not a fan of Lindsay’s skating, but as of right now, she deserves it more than many of the other senior skaters

@Ardit-kq4bt

2 жыл бұрын

@@Ogusername-h7e american girls are so bad..lol