“I’m not saying these pedals suck, I just hate that they exist.” 😂

@mmodtomic7119

4 жыл бұрын

They BOTH suck for the average biker. The outer "bearings" are just cheap Bushings instead of more expensive Sealed Bearing Cartridges. How long does straight metal on metal last? Great for weight and $$ savings...at the cost of durability and longevity. I get it for a competitive rider...like how Race Cars go through engines, but the average motorist would never stand for having to rebuild there engine after every few commutes!

@david1519

4 жыл бұрын

I love those fookers lol

@Br4dl37

4 жыл бұрын

M Modtomic the actually race face ones are very good quality and my mates have stood up to hard riding for months now.

@simonadams8044

4 жыл бұрын

@@mmodtomic7119 bruh he even talks about the bearings in the video 1:54 and clearly, you have never owned raceface chesters bc if you did you would realize that there are sealed bearings which can and should but serviced from time to time

@tairny

4 жыл бұрын

@@mmodtomic7119 the vast majority of even higher end pedals use a du bushing for the inner bearing, the outer is usually a bearing like shown on the raceface. its not metal on metal contact, its a bearing material, some sort of polymer. I have seen very few even high end pedals use a ball bearing as the inner bearing, they simply do not have the weight capacity that a proper bushing does.

Alternate title: Seth rants about pedals that sound like the f word

Seth's mood swing is hilarious! Goes from being very angry in the shop, to after a bike ride, he is in a little better mood. (Doesn't approve but not as heated)

We all need a t-shirt that saids “today we’re gonna do something different but kinda the same”

@pnwriding3220

3 жыл бұрын

yes

@itzmeleo9810

3 жыл бұрын

Oh man how this worked

@tristaneisner9526

3 жыл бұрын

Seth: how many Me:Yes

@Thatslikefortoddles3789

6 күн бұрын

​@@tristaneisner9526hahahahahhahahahahahah.

Forget 3D scanning, or even stealing the molds, if the RaceFace ones are made in China, the Fookers are probably made on literally the same machines. It’s very common these days to make the “American” product on a contract, and then produce a cheaper low-spec and sell on the side for wayyy cheaper.

@thomascray

4 жыл бұрын

Same with RockBros glasses (frames, anyway)... just like Oakleys.

@Bill-Rink

4 жыл бұрын

Yep RaceFace is cheap junk with no warranty or support

@cezarywieczorkowski5642

4 жыл бұрын

@@Bill-Rink What lol

@Bill-Rink

4 жыл бұрын

Mr. W yep RaceFace crank arms fell a apart first 50 miles never saw a MTB trail RaceFace never responded to me or bike shop now have Shimano crank Trek doesn’t warranty non Trek parts

@Thomascharles960

4 жыл бұрын

I’m sure raceface is Canadian but your probably right

Can't believe that some fooker copied those pedal's and named the copied pedal after themselves.

@derek596

4 жыл бұрын

Spencer Foresman yeet

@shano81

4 жыл бұрын

lol 😂

@jackmtb2505

4 жыл бұрын

i like yur channel

@Lfomod1Dubstep

4 жыл бұрын

some that some? same that same here man!

@meyb-real

3 жыл бұрын

Ur soooooo right

As a designer, I have been on the unfortunate end of copying and yes, it sucks. Glad you're preaching integrity when it comes to this stuff!

@terrycruise-zd5tw

5 ай бұрын

arent you supposed to get a patent? or i suppose a patent doesnt help much against chinese companies

@mattb4640

2 ай бұрын

'tegridy

3:25 wheels: "Am I joke to you?"

“I’m trying to think of something I can huck to flat” Me: oh he’s gonna do the driveway gap Seth: leaps off the flight deck

@larrylrs7226

4 жыл бұрын

@@lakesidelaunchers4307 dude, stop spamming

@lakesidelaunchers4307

4 жыл бұрын

Aidan Cahill I stopped like 10 minutes ago

@nicoh332

4 жыл бұрын

He did the driveway gap, watch the video

@archiehards9174

4 жыл бұрын

Lakeside Launchers no u didn't

@lakesidelaunchers4307

4 жыл бұрын

I’ll delete them all

“At the risk of sounding preachy, this sucks.” Nice Seth😂

You should have put the name "Fooker" in the title, so that when people are shopping and looking for reviews this will come up on the search.

“At least until this COVID thing is over”! 🤣🤣 okay seth

@alexrubin6422

3 жыл бұрын

Carries more weight now lol

@WeslarWaven

2 жыл бұрын

Still going 😂

“I would have told them to name it “Pedal-phile” 😂

@shavedbird694

3 жыл бұрын

Even that would have been a better name

@onlyonecannoli3952

3 жыл бұрын

I accidentally did a spit-take after reading this comment. Good job.

@xts_eddy9527

3 жыл бұрын

pp

@mrvapor4791

3 жыл бұрын

epic

@Hollole_Media

3 жыл бұрын

Haha🤣

7:01 "I would call it pedalphile" Freaking seth

@jcsrst

4 жыл бұрын

That is HILARIOUS!!!!

@LDaniel_BDuce

4 жыл бұрын

*fooking

@dubblearr7622

4 жыл бұрын

Hahah. Had me loling

@brycerivers1657

4 жыл бұрын

Missed a chanced to say "Fooking Seth"

@bassman4203

4 жыл бұрын

S&m already did that back in the 90’s. It was a frame.

Little did he know this “COVID” will go on for another year

@cattalkbmx

3 жыл бұрын

They're going to try to milk this forever...

@johngonzalez1193

2 жыл бұрын

Scamdemic

@derpsmash9741

2 жыл бұрын

You're all twats.

Seth: "At least until this covid thing is over.." Me: Oh buddy..

@israelshero9125

2 жыл бұрын

You were saying?

@johngonzalez1193

2 жыл бұрын

@@israelshero9125 I'm saying it will never be over obviously

@israelshero9125

2 жыл бұрын

@@johngonzalez1193 Yes exactly I'm saying that you said oh buddy after only 6 months, and now two years later we're still dealing with it, so you have savant level prophetic knowledge

@johngonzalez1193

2 жыл бұрын

@@israelshero9125 you know it doesn't exist right? Also germ theory is garbage. Courtesy of that fraud pasteur and the Rockefeller clan.

@israelshero9125

2 жыл бұрын

@@johngonzalez1193 I've had COVID. Pretty sick but not as bad as say pneumonia, though I'm pretty young. I'm not interested in discussing this further, have a pleasant evening, or day if you live somewhere not in the Western Hemisphere.

"soapy wooder" *Chrisfix has entered the chat*

@reidmackay9703

4 жыл бұрын

Nathan Griese first think I thought of lol

@clarkegilbey6544

4 жыл бұрын

Lol yes

@Mainroad.Manjis101

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve found my people

@no_sleep_yx3

4 жыл бұрын

I like your subaru 👀

@Tryinglittleleg

4 жыл бұрын

facts

Haha, I had these in my cart. Nearly bought them just because of the name.

@filipfirmanty3145

4 жыл бұрын

Just night some Funn Black Magic

@seanmcadams1216

4 жыл бұрын

Those fookers tried to lie to us.

@rezenclowd3

4 жыл бұрын

I bought them a year ago, still seem fine but I hate riding in mud or wet as I am in cali.

@Kr4keN7-Prodzekt02

4 жыл бұрын

What the Fook!

@marcup1584

4 жыл бұрын

@Alex they look identical to the Chesters, and honestly I prefer their shade of blue. For what it's worth I ride red Chesters and my wife rides all metal triple bearing Fookers.

I would say they're different but kinda the same. I hate knock offs too, because on the original part you are compensating them for the research and thought that have gone into the product. What I also don't like is when parts are marked up for their name only. But sometimes you just gotta buy the cheap part because you can't afford the name brand stuff.

You can use an adjustable soldering iron to get an idea of how strong a plastic blend is. The more heat it takes to melt usually means it has more glass, carbon, or aramid blended in it. Cheap parts have little or no fiber in them and will melt at a low temp. Take the soldering iron at it’s lowest setting and touch the tip to the plastic of both peddles. Slowly turn the heat up while testing each part. It’s not exactly scientific but it will give you some idea of what the plastic is made of.

Seth: hucks hardtail to flat off of 8 foot deck. Pinkbike: we need to up our game.

@OxBlitzkriegxO

4 жыл бұрын

PB is too snobby to ride a hardtail let alone have a pic taken of someone on it.

@davidrocamora5109

4 жыл бұрын

@@lakesidelaunchers4307 no one does

@lakesidelaunchers4307

4 жыл бұрын

Ok

@RealMTBAddict

4 жыл бұрын

PB ain't shit

I bought the Fookers just to see if I liked flats. That was over a year ago, and they are no worse for wear. I'd say they are pretty Fookin good.

@Rafael_Fuchs

4 жыл бұрын

I've owned aluminium pedals from them for quite some time too. I got them to put on a garbage bike I used to get around town, liked the pedals far more than I thought I would, and threw them on my MTB to beat on till they finally die. They're all sorts of banged up with deep gouges from rocks, but they still feel amazing... They just don't look amazing. Lol

@RealStealthyNinja

4 жыл бұрын

Good quality maybe. Ethical? Well I don’t blame you personally or anything but the counterfeiters should be a bit ashamed.

@serbanandrei7532

4 жыл бұрын

Noice

@landonlarocque1239

4 жыл бұрын

RealStealthyNinja I mean if they work they work they aren’t exactly ripping you off or claiming they’re mainstream brand pedals

@djbikesonline

4 жыл бұрын

@@atombell991 raceface are ripping idiots like you off who think their mid range to lower end lines are anymore than China/Taiwan catalogue items.

🤣 I'm from northern England - happy we got a mention on your channel, please tell us more about your knowledge of our kind - an impression would be hilarious 😍

Thanks so much for this video Seth. You inspired me to not only get these RaceFace pedals, but to get them direct from the source!

“Because this is America and that’s not cheap enough” 🇺🇸 I couldn’t agree more... 😆

2:30 “The thing that makes me the angriest about this is if you go to amazon and you type in race face Chester these come up FIRST these come up before the race face Chesters, The FOOKERS!

@XGaming1

4 жыл бұрын

Because there waaaay cheaper. It’s not like there selling fookers and saying they race face.

@user-ow1jh8yb5j

4 жыл бұрын

Amazon has got really bad for this lately!

@DubbelYoo

4 жыл бұрын

They paid for it, under the listing it said “Sponsored”

@XGaming1

4 жыл бұрын

Who cares, if you want raceface Chester’s, then buy them but if you want a cheaper pedal that’s basically the same buy the fookers.

@oak8728

4 жыл бұрын

As others have said they paid for that search/keyword term. What is crazy about 3P sites like Amazon, most low/mid level companies won’t pay much for their own SEO. Coming from working at Amazon for 2 years, I have seen many products like this across clothing/jewelry/electronics etc that market the big name keywords.

I have just started watching your videos and really enjoy them. You do a great job on your reviews and know your stuff. Thank you

I'm a casual biker. I hated the stock pedals that came with my budget friendly Diamondback bike. So, I bought a pair of the Fookers for $25 in November 2018. These pedals are easily the single best upgrade I made to my bike. I'm sure they're nowhere as good as the Race Face pedals. But for the price and how I use them, they're perfect for me.

Seth: I hate knock offs Harbor freight: I have 20% coupon.

@ke6533

4 жыл бұрын

I was thinking the same thing, as a consumer who visits HF every month. Although those 20% coupons have so many restriction you are basically able to use them only on the knockoffs of knockoffs.

I think “Fooker” was the perfect name to make fun of all us fookers who spend too much money on our bikes

@aerox3418

3 жыл бұрын

But this stuff will last years so it’s worth the money

@DaanRacer

3 жыл бұрын

@@aerox3418 that's why everything is overpriced. We dumb mtbers just buy everything, with the mindset 'it will last for years so it's worth it'.

@aerox3418

3 жыл бұрын

@@DaanRacer lmao true

@iawindowss4061

3 жыл бұрын

@Rebecca Anderson He most likely does not. However I have to agree they will both last a long time might as well buy the cheaper one.

Can’t wait to see the follow up on this. I’ve already watched it several times just for the rant.

The name “Fooker” is probably the best thing about those pedals.

I’m from northern England 😂finally an American who recognised northern England

@benthomas4072

4 жыл бұрын

_MXKX-21 _ we may have been recognised but I don’t know anyone who says foooker in the north east it’s more like fuckah

@gerardmontgomery280

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe they'll get around to recognising Scotland, Wales and N. Ireland one of these days.

@Adventures_with_Sog

4 жыл бұрын

@@gerardmontgomery280 Where?

@kingneptune8937

4 жыл бұрын

Made me laugh I'm from Newcastle upon Tyne north England

@Adventures_with_Sog

4 жыл бұрын

@William Craig Cool story, Cowboy.

Seth is giving Chris Fix a run for the most “wotter” drops in a video!

@tristannguyen1717

4 жыл бұрын

wooder

@michalpawlak3344

4 жыл бұрын

Soapy wooder

@trailsidesam3592

4 жыл бұрын

grab your soapy wooder and spray that hot exhaust

@sambaron2625

4 жыл бұрын

woorder

@chiefkeefas4502

4 жыл бұрын

Soapy wooder

Thanks man. I was gonna be one of those fookers to... but changed my mind and got the chesters because of you.I now have a proper piece of mind.🍻✌️

I had no idea, still within the return time by a couple days for Fookers. Thanks for bringing this to my attention.

Btw: there are dozens of companies making this exact pedal. Back in 2012 I bought this pedal but it was made by NukeProof.

@TwoDogsFighting

4 жыл бұрын

There are dozens of companies rebadging this pedal. Most of these cycling manufacturers don't make shit.

@liquidwombat

4 жыл бұрын

I have basically the same pedal from Race Face, Fooker, Azonic, and HT. I honestly can’t tell the difference between any of them. If I was in the market to spend 100-ish dollars on alloy pedals I would absolutely be going with a name brand (but would probably stick with Shimano) for composite pedals with metal pins they’re all pretty much the same

@TwoDogsFighting

4 жыл бұрын

@@liquidwombat They're probably all made by wellgo in the end. I'm partial to my wah wah clones.

@lonesomegavlan7279

4 жыл бұрын

NukeProof is good, it's a well known brand. The boys at GMBN use it a lot.

@bullfrogboss8008

4 жыл бұрын

Mine are called Wheel Up

Being from northern England, every time he said fooker it killed me😭😭

@loudpax74u

4 жыл бұрын

Conrad lawley hahah that line got me aswell man 🤣

@zakiry8634

4 жыл бұрын

I'm from North East, and he did us dirty with that

@maxno2390

4 жыл бұрын

😂

@sputnic3032

4 жыл бұрын

Fooker sounds more Irish than northern to me. where in the north are you pronouncing it fook?

@loudpax74u

4 жыл бұрын

Sputnic dunno mate I’m from West Yorkshire we say ‘couldn’t give a fook’ as a joke sometimes haha

At 4:39 The fooker pedal shaft above the seal is a third less the diameter of the race face shaft. This is where the shaft will bend when landing heavy on most pedals, but on the fooker I would say a light to moderate landing would bend them. I reckon I could bend them just bouncing through the suspension stroke stationary.

Best ad for Fooker pedals ever. I wonder how many sets have been sold JUST because of this video.

Seth, you should review oval chainrings. Supposedly they make it easier to climb hills.

@lakesidelaunchers4307

4 жыл бұрын

Anders Bell I have a channel if you guys want to check it outfit not that’s fine to. Thanks

@RealMTBAddict

4 жыл бұрын

So do muscles

@itsyaboi5861

4 жыл бұрын

@@lakesidelaunchers4307 dude your thumbnail looks a lot like seths

@henrykayes5319

4 жыл бұрын

Yes , get this comment popular and he might see it!!!!

@aidanmakinster922

4 жыл бұрын

Yeh Im curious about those

I made the same mistake with some Chinese brake pads off of Amazon. I thought “probably made in the same factory, why not save some money” but the pad material separated from the backing after just a few rides. Luckily we were just messing around in our local woods because of the lockdown and nobody got hurt, but had we been riding our usual trails, it could have been very ugly. Just pay the money and get the real deal! Stay safe!

@piciu256

4 жыл бұрын

There are good brake pads for less than half the price out there, but you gotta do your research- test some untill you find a manufacturer that works, certainly don't buy the noname ones. Kingstop I found to be really good, not as cheap as the others but m,uch quieter and better braking power.

@lakesidelaunchers4307

4 жыл бұрын

Kenny McRae 👍

I bought two sets of Raceface Chester's, and both sets started to fail at the bearings. The second set never felt right from the beginning, one of the bearings was clicky from day one. It eventually completely failed and the bearings split apart on a light trail and the pedal slid off the spindle and had catastrophic failure. I paid $50 for those. I decided to try the newer designed Fooker brand with needle bearings for $25 and figured it couldn't be any worse than the Raceface brand. Boy what a better quality set for half the price! The updated Fookers just feel better, spin more smoothly, and have zero play. They have been improved since this video was made. Honestly, they are now built better than the Chester's and will be my new go to pedal for EMTB riding. They also come with spare pins and shims as a courtesy. The Raceface warranty requires you to fill out a form and give your CC number so they can charge you. Skip them and go Fooker.

"Prevent Wooter froom getting into yoor Fooker Pedals"

@Joopyter724

3 жыл бұрын

Wo'ah

2:25 Seth: "The marketing slogan says 'Ride with a dream' well that makes sense. Actually, it doesn't make sense at all."

I’ve got the Chester pedals on my diamondback hardtail, they’ve been through hell and back and still work and perform great!

@trailsoftrey

4 жыл бұрын

Croomrider97 the race face slap g

@M3LTUP

4 жыл бұрын

I have never had any set of pedals fail in my lifetime. I normally replace them well before that.

@cork1624

4 жыл бұрын

I had a pare of fookers and the fell apart after 3 rides

@M3LTUP

4 жыл бұрын

@@cork1624 They must have been some really Fooked up pedals.

@dillonglassford5688

4 жыл бұрын

I have fooker pedals on my diamondback hardtail, no issues and I saved $20

7:44 "at least until this covid stuff is over" Us in december: :|

@xylerkajiyama7544

3 жыл бұрын

It’s 2021 time

@isaachlloyd

3 жыл бұрын

Us in february :|

@dombmtb

3 жыл бұрын

Us in March 2021

@kingofallworlds

3 жыл бұрын

I'm calling it now. Us in 2022..

@dombmtb

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingofallworlds Hey! That’s illegal

Actually bought some "knock off" Chesters and now returning for the real thing. Never thought of the R&D that RF would have spent to ensure a great product. Awesome call out Seth!

@BeamMonsterZeus

Жыл бұрын

Even those are made in the same place as what you call a knock-off. It's the US companies selling overpriced versions of the same products and brainwashing people into believing the money was well-spent. It's why poverty can't be quelled.

Me: trying to listen to Seth talk about pedals Seth: War-ter , I see no war-ter in these pedals.

"The fookers", as someone from northern England, I spat out my tea laughing

@lennonh1575

4 жыл бұрын

sam woolsey is there two England’s cause In the northern part of England where I live no one says fookers it’s fuck or fuckers

@richardseppings4409

4 жыл бұрын

I'm from West Yorkshire and "u" definitely has an "oo" undertone.

That internal sleeve nut is designed to put pressure on the outside bearing race. So the hole in the middle of it is really just a design thing rather than a way to keep water out or grease in. Just a heads up since it really seemed to upset you.

just yesterday I got the Chester pedals and I am excited to try them!

" held up in soapy wooder" *Chrisfix intensifies *

@none5647

4 жыл бұрын

Hmm interesting..

@your_average_cultured_dude

4 жыл бұрын

Medium strength threadlocker

@lakesidelaunchers4307

4 жыл бұрын

Raphael Roshwalb 👍

VIDEO IDEA:Build a bike out these kind of knockoff parts. I'm talking all of the parts, including the actual frame, have to be a copy of something name brand. That would be awesome. Love your vids.

@surfah33

4 жыл бұрын

I actually love this idea. Buy knockoff everything. Ride it.

@markjd3108

4 жыл бұрын

This has to be done. 🚲 I😂

@workhorsemtb7075

4 жыл бұрын

+1 for this idea

@M3LTUP

4 жыл бұрын

It has already been done. Walmart sells those bikes for $99.

My friend has the metal version of those pedals of he’s Scott Spark 900 and so far he loves em

Literally just bought these pedals (Fooker) and then this video ended up in my recommended 😂

@14vdul

3 жыл бұрын

You like em?

@MeganSchrooten

3 жыл бұрын

@@14vdul so far there pretty good, haven't noticed anything bad yet

@14vdul

3 жыл бұрын

@@MeganSchrooten sweet!

@nmnmnm35

3 жыл бұрын

@@14vdul I like mine more than my raceface ones I had lol

@joshuarodriguez1303

3 жыл бұрын

I bought these because he has them linked on one of his videos for upgrades -_-

They were probably made by the same factory that makes the originals. Whenever they aren't fulfilling orders for Race Face, they keep the line moving and produce the knockoffs with the same mold. A few cheaper parts later, they have a copy for extra profit. This happens all the time with electronics. I'm not surprised to see it with bike parts.

Seths "Pedal file" company name has give me inspiration to try and make a pedal company

@RealStealthyNinja

4 жыл бұрын

Wellgo have a high class pedal brand called Xpedo, which is kinda funny, especially since one of their models is “Thrust”

@andrewkessler58

3 жыл бұрын

Good luck, if you seriously do make a company comment on a video i want to know how it goes

I was looking for some new pedals and ran into this video. Sure enough I looked up mountain bike pedals on Amazon and the Fooker pedals came up first. I did buy the Raceface ones and I am happy with them. Thanks

“and i don’t even know how this can be legal” 😂😂

I've got a pair of rock bros. They have been rock solid for me.

@outdooractivist

4 жыл бұрын

Same here

@wadefisher2049

4 жыл бұрын

I broke two pairs of rock bros

@farreledviantbatubara8358

4 жыл бұрын

@@wadefisher2049 damn 20 sec ago

@boustrisservice1868

4 жыл бұрын

I know, i follow ur channel and followed/copied one of you bike project for my 29" nishiki. Thanks for the guidance. No complaints about my rock bros.

@muhammadokto5757

4 жыл бұрын

My last rockbros pedals, the body just comes right off from the spindle and I almost crash i just have that pedals for like 5 months

That Pedal File jokes that Seth made is underrated😂

I just happened on this vid after dropping the Fookers into my Amazon cart and I just wanna say thanks! The statement about having the little extra cash to support the r&d of a core manufacturer really struck a cord. Replaced with the Chester's. Also, The Pedalphile....🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Tasteless and classic, just like me.

Hilarious review. Made my day!

Haha I'm from Scotland and honestly I'd buy the pedals just for the name 😂

@hubdeep9452

4 жыл бұрын

I just checked Amazon and the mother fookers are out of stock 😂

@michaelinglis8516

4 жыл бұрын

I own the Fookers in turqoise and they are just as good as the race faces. Theres tons of other people who will say the same. Most people cant afford to spend a 1/4 cost of their bike on pedals. That doesnt mean they should use shitty cheap pedals.

@dilloncash1325

4 жыл бұрын

Michael Inglis you’re not riding hard enough then

@BlueCollarBachelor

4 жыл бұрын

@@michaelinglis8516 really? You saved $5 and rewarded thieves. Good for you.

@lakesidelaunchers4307

4 жыл бұрын

matthew gilmore 👍

As someone from the North or England I'm crying with laughter each time you say fooker 🤣 set of fooker's

So i just bought pedals, AU$28 (US$17.75) RockBros, Nylon / Plastic, with proper screw in bolted spikes, 4 enclosed bearings per pedal, they feel perfect ie you can't feel any slop, good rubber bungs / o-rings to keep the dirt out, they are excellent, even for road riding, i don't slip off them esp'' in the wet, and i get more power when my feet have a good horizontal pedalling component, could not find Fookers, glad i couldn't. My current bike is all dark grey / black, didn't want to cheapen it up with lots of anodised colour, however i purchased a yellow-green set, so that is now the 1 highlight colour allowed on that bike, again is good for road riding, large bright rotating pedals on a largely dark bike background. Cheers!

Congrats on the baby Seth

I'm strictly a bmx person but i have been here since the Trek 4900 days. Love this content.

My cousin literally works at a factory where the same.cans get a variety of different labels to ship off to different companies for sale Its like aerosol air fresheners and hairspray products

@randomuser5443

4 жыл бұрын

I think paper towels are a better comparison

@rajgill7576

4 жыл бұрын

@@randomuser5443 I bet they're even worse at it. One brand printing different prints on the same paper all day long

@littlegoobie

4 жыл бұрын

bread is very similar also. big grocery stores carry their own "brand" of bread. Meanwhile, bread from NEARLY EVERY "brand" you see on the bread aisle at the grocery store comes out of the very same bread factory. When prices are significantly different, there will be changes to the product but overall it'll be similar. The best example i personally came across is the 3M green/yellow scrubber for doing dishes. The normal stores carry them for $2.50 each or whatever. I saw them at a dollar store for $1.25 in the same 3M wrapper and it all looked the same except this wrapper had dollar store logo added onto it. I get home and compare it to a real one and the green scrubbing side is 1/2 the thickness, the yellow sponge is 1/2 the thickness...and guess what? It fell apart in a fraction of the time. It looked the same, same brand even, but it was definitely NOT the same as one you would get if you paid full price in a normal store.

@chawk_

4 жыл бұрын

That’s how supply chains work for the most part. Chester doesn’t create every piece in their own pedals, neither does fooker. They both source them from OEMs and then build their product. the difference is where they source them from and the quality of the production. Chester obviously cares for the quality, and thus has quality manufacturers which is reflected in the cost and craftsmanship of the product. Fooker on the other hand found a manufacturer that could make the same pieces for the cheapest price with 0 regard towards quality.

05:19 great editing skills

@bruh-co8nf

3 жыл бұрын

lolz

From north east England and so happy you mentioned us

their slogan should be "Ride with a dream, you fooker!"

Just call it “Shin Destroyer”

Not everyone has a hardness tester, mainly because the price. I would gladly test these for you since I own one. I do own the round anvil bed for round bar testing. These 2 pedal shafts need to be tested for rockwell hardness. That will tell us if Fooker took the time to make a durable copy. Let me know. Not looking to keep them just want to know lol.

@bryannonya9769

Жыл бұрын

They lasted a year so I think they are pretty durable.

This was extremely helpful. Thanks

"How is this legal?" Made in China... tooling for mass production is expensive, so I almost think it's more likely that Fooker just ordered a cost-down version of that pedal from the same factory that RaceFace uses, using the same mold. If the bike industry is anything like the guitar industry, lots of brands get their products from the same set of overseas factories.

@bonzobanana1

4 жыл бұрын

That's pretty much what I was going to write. Maybe even the fooker pedals are a generic design pedals and raceface ordered them with an upgrade on internal parts. SRAM designs a lot of bike parts but relies on factories in the far east to make them and may change factories frequently to get the best price. Maybe after losing the contract with Raceface they started knocking out the same pedal moulds pretty much under their own brand. I've have to say I've bought pedals from ebay for £3 with aluminium bodies and after servicing them as soon as I got them with grease and getting the tension just right they were great pedals. They were loose bearings so easy to replace too if I need to. Seen pretty much the same pedals go for £30 in local bike shops as their economy pedals.

@Wrang15

4 жыл бұрын

Goes on in the US too. I worked at a place that made ketchup. Guess what we did every brand lol... the were close it was funny on how some companys charged much more of their brand. Some big name brands owned the store brand. Sometimes your just paying for a name.

@ZachRice

4 жыл бұрын

@@Wrang15 true, I bet that occurs in many industries.

At a guess, the fooker pedals are made in the exact same factory as the raceface pedals, potentially ones that didn't pass QA or maybe the factory just sells that design to multiple different brands and the fooker pedals are just finished with cheaper hardware.

@MrJeffdahmer

4 жыл бұрын

I bet it's not even cheaper hardware. Race face orders 100,000 units from the factory in China, the factory delivers the product but they still have all the molds and means to produce the pedals with the knowledge they can sell them at half the price and still make a profit. Who wouldn't?

@treewizzard

4 жыл бұрын

thats what race face gets for cheaping out and going the Chinese route, these chinese pedals are made to make money for the same kind of businessmen as the raceface pedals.i dont care where a company is "based" raceface is the one responsible for the chinese pedals.

I've actually been running a single pair of fooker pedals for 4 years now. I've ridden all over western North Carolina including Beech mountain, the Riveter, Dupont, Pisgah, Bent creek, and everywhere else you can think of. They do loosen up a bit more than the Chester's but never seem to move more than 2-3/10 of an inch. They've held up really well considering the abuse they've gone through. The pins do wear out faster and the spindle has that little bit of play I mentioned, but other than that they're solid. If it's your only choice, its not a bad buy. But otherwise, just get the Chester's. They're only $20 more and the spindle construction is far better in terms of reliability. and yes my name is basically the same as the fooker pedals, I just thought it was funny.

I bought the race face Chester petals. I’m new to the sport and building my first Hardtail.

when he realizes they are made in the same factory he will poop his shorts.

@Calfa2x

4 жыл бұрын

They aren't, the material is quite different and you will notice the durability issues about 5 months riding them. Like Seth said, the type of steel and bearing type make a huge difference in durability. You won't notice it short term but they will snap at the 6-8 month mark.

@lljkSadi

4 жыл бұрын

Precisely. I used to design power tools and Bosch, Ingersoll rand, atlas copco and my company all sourced grinders from one company. We would even use the same designs, just pay more to have “exclusive feature” and change the look outside. Most but not all of the parts were interchangeable. Sioux and others Chinese brands were selling the exact same tool but at way lower profit margins.

@Ghostiification

4 жыл бұрын

Well to be fair, pretty much all batteries etc are made in the same factories. You know, those Samsung one's that cost 20€ are just manufactured in the same place where they make those pirate 5€ batteries aswell. But the difference always is that the legit companies have to follow restrictions and guidelines, while the others don't. That's the main concern with pirated products.

@michelt4390

4 жыл бұрын

I guess that's the price to pay for outsourcing stuff to China... US company does it to increase profit margins to 72%... Chinese guy, hey! I could sell the same and be happy with a 30% profit margin

@Tallretrodude

4 жыл бұрын

@@lljkSadi curiosity what are some good chinese power tool brands?

That’s funny I literally just bought race face chesters

@au69miner

4 жыл бұрын

got those on my new Scott Scale....color me satisfied

@MrScruffybird

4 жыл бұрын

Me too! They look great on my brand new Rosco7

@colancaster84

4 жыл бұрын

I did too last year! Great pedals! RIP our shins!

@archiehards9174

4 жыл бұрын

Lakeside Launchers plz shut up stop spamming

@doriankolic9207

4 жыл бұрын

A friend reccomended these fookers to me but I went with the real thing

Hey can I copy your homework? Sure just change it up a bit so the teacher doesn't notice

@onlyonecannoli3952

3 жыл бұрын

No, it's more like..."Hey nerd, you make my "Douchebag MTB Unnecessarily Expensive Pedals" with your slave labor for pennies on the dollar and I'll sell them to the first world pretentious MTB community for a hundred times what it costs you to make them for me...then nerd realizes that he can do the same thing for himself if he just cuts a few corners and rebrands them with some comically ill-advised name selection.

@Ice_Daniyel

3 жыл бұрын

cole campbell, the teacher found out it was copied

@dr.science_0177

3 жыл бұрын

@@onlyonecannoli3952 sure but it's much more than that

@FirefighterBobby

3 жыл бұрын

You do realize there's a great chance both pedals are made in the same factory?

@colecampbell5268

3 жыл бұрын

@@FirefighterBobby lmao why do people always say stuff like this it’s a joke

Seth, have you thought about doing a video like this where you tear down a high end brake caliper & handle (shimano xt/xtr for example) and do a comparative tear down on an entry level set (like Shimano acera)? IMO brakes are one of those areas where you get diminishing returns the more money you spend. I’ve upgraded almost everything on my full suspension except for my brakes because even entry level hydraulic brakes are really good these days, but i’d love to know where the extra money goes on really expensive brakes besides just weight savings.

I had the fookers for a couple months I actually liked them lol

I love how you talk about buying products that truly represent mountain biking. I think especially now is a great time to be buying local. I love you reviews keep it up

@peglor

4 жыл бұрын

If Race Face truly represent MTBing I've been doing it wrong all along by buying from companies that spec durable bearings and use materials other than what appears to be some sort of hardish cheese for their load bearing parts.

@tgoods5049

4 жыл бұрын

mschroeder17 race face is made overseas bro

@frsknsld

4 жыл бұрын

Yet his bikes are from a consumer direct company that cuts out the local businesses

I like your videos. What I like the most is that you aren't an over-the-top cringe hipster! Your are an authentic MTB-pro!

Hey just got back into mountain biking last summer and heard about your channel and love it.. I have raceface chester pedals and think they are great!! And just did that search on Amazon and that is crazy!!! There is another company on there that is copying them too but they leave the little rf in there instead of trying to change it!! They are azzel hiegoo tried to post pic but couldn't

Is it just me that hears a extremely high pitch sound when he’s riding?

@jojo_is_a_go5893

4 жыл бұрын

BigBootyBrad it’s his brakes

@Matio25091

4 жыл бұрын

Disc brakes

@Vaasmios

4 жыл бұрын

That's just him talking . Jk love you Seth lmao

@victoriathegreencheekconur5477

4 жыл бұрын

BigBootyBrad yea its either his brakes or the music

@JimnyRicardo

4 жыл бұрын

This is the sound of metallic break pads as opposed to the organic ones

My chinese hydration pack came with brand name "Local outdoor lion" my bar tape was branded as "good horse", fooker is not that bad to be honest.

@tonyrobinson1623

4 жыл бұрын

I have a Local Lion backpack that is an exact copy of an Osprey. It's held up just fine.

@mrN3w7

4 жыл бұрын

Seriously... I want that bar tape :D.

@richardrahadi

4 жыл бұрын

Hydration pack’s fine, good horse freak me out so bad

@theh0r5e90

4 жыл бұрын

I also would like to know where you got the bar tape

@scottiemanners

4 жыл бұрын

I have a bunch of offbrand outdoor gear that are replicas of the expensive brands, I feel like you pay for the name a lot of times when the same quality can be made and sold way cheaper

I have the same RaceFace pedals on my old RockHopper... I also have a different style Fooker pedal on my ebike (wanted a red flat pedal with pegs that also had reflective parts, they were the only ones I could find that had that) I've ridden well over 5,000 miles with the Fooker, including in heavy PNW rains that have turned my route into endless deep puddles with water constantly splashing over my feet. I've had no issues with the Fookers so far. Haven't opened them up to see how the bearings are doing, but they spin fine still. Not saying I'd recommend them over the RF, but at least they aren't complete trash.

@Bandit1379.

Ай бұрын

Also worth mentioning, I tried to do some research on Fooker before buying them, and this video didn't come up =[

I'm not saying that intro makes me laugh every time, but I pretty much laugh every time.

I put these Fookers on all my mountain bikes! :)

6:41 "pedaro" in Spanish is a person who cannot stop farting hahahaha

@elorz007

4 жыл бұрын

En qué país? Porque en España pedaro no significa nada. Pedorro quizás...

@rowenlampe7426

4 жыл бұрын

@@elorz007 no hable espanol

@claudiodominguez8649

4 жыл бұрын

No , it doesn't. You learned Spanish in the Fooker Academy !? . JK. But , Pedaro is not a Spanish word.

@zygis337

4 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure that's not a Spanish word, but any Russian speaking country knows a different meaning for the word 🙃

@ViktorJ0van0vski

4 жыл бұрын

And it means gay in my language 🤣🤣🤣

I’m thinking about getting some chesters they would look great on my trek marlin 4

Just yesterday I was doing a huck to flat and my foot fell off the petal and cut me in a J shape so I had to get stichs and the flap of skin was purple and they had to grab it and put to to fill it in and I didn’t even feel it

I'm glad youtube decided not to put this video in my sub box, like I watch MTB content more than any other I'm subbed to and they say their sub box is supposed to show you the content you watch most. Anyway great video Seth!

@placesaroundus

4 жыл бұрын

Colten it did it to me too

This is realy good! Bring out copys of fox, shimano and the rest! Mtb has become a realy expensive sport. It needs 2 slow down........ A 2000$ bike is now a "cheap" bike, its 2 crazy!

@OomLourens

4 жыл бұрын

T OK give that man a bells

@MilkMan104

4 жыл бұрын

that’s actually a really good way of looking at it. i always thought that but never thought of it like that

There are reviews of these Fookers on Amazon where people complain that they have broken. Some even had the spindle snap off at the crank arm.

“That makes sense” “ACTUALLY IT DOESNT”