Brutally Honest Flat Pedal and Shoe Review

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Different bikes, different riding techniques: / 46925782
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How to wheelie: / 21879606

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  • @Eric.V.
    @Eric.V.11 ай бұрын

    “Rather than do anything foolish like stop riding mtn bikes”😆😆😆

  • @bradsanders6954

    @bradsanders6954

    11 ай бұрын

    Ive been thru the broken bone phase, and hospital time, from racing dirtbikes, its not as much fun as it looks like. I try very hard not to do the same on mt bikes.

  • @harv83
    @harv8311 ай бұрын

    Surprised oneup pedals weren't included - by far the most popular flats around Vancouver Island, and much better priced compared to competition

  • @d3adwin

    @d3adwin

    11 ай бұрын

    worst pedals,i will return second in one month for noise cracking...total 💩

  • @stevenkilleen8149

    @stevenkilleen8149

    11 ай бұрын

    I like mine and bearing are so easily replaced super grippy

  • @50centHotDog

    @50centHotDog

    11 ай бұрын

    Mine make some noise but they have been working great for years. Definitely my go to.

  • @Ferrari255GTO

    @Ferrari255GTO

    11 ай бұрын

    My underrated brand is WellGo, it's chinese but they sell magnesium BMX pedals dirt cheap that work great for MTB because they're indestructible, my set has been abused heavily for god knows how long and they're still going just fine. If pedal thickness isn't really important to you i can't recommend them enough

  • @TylerCloke

    @TylerCloke

    11 ай бұрын

    Love my oneup pedals. Zero issues. Insane grip.

  • @andymajewski9084
    @andymajewski908411 ай бұрын

    As a longtime flat pedal rider, I've found that shoe stiffness + rubber needs to match pedal profile and pin type, and even foot position. Those convex pedals that you (and I) don't really like favor a midfoot position and softer shoes that kind of drape over the axle. Concave works best if you position the ball of your foot on or just in front of the spindle. Grub screws pair really well with very soft, tacky rubber like 5.10 Stealth S1 (in Impact Pro, Sam Hill, Freerider Pro). Pins (especially longer ones) work better on harder rubber, like that Ride Concepts uses. The Tenet Occult has a really similar shape to the TMac, and comes with both pins and grubs. I did back to back testing of those with both Impact Pros and RC Tallacs, and found the grubs worked better on the Impact Pros and pins on the Tallacs. I've had some durability issues with the Occults, but not with the TMacs. And for whatever reason, I get a little bit more grip with the TMacs and my Impact Pros than Occults with grubs. With TMacs and Impact Pros, I can actually lift the pedal up a bit, which makes them extremely planted in the rough.

  • @havey

    @havey

    11 ай бұрын

    This makes sense. I installed slightly longer pins on my Stamp pedals, and subsequently shredded the soles of my Five Tens.

  • @adamcvanwinkle

    @adamcvanwinkle

    5 ай бұрын

    I have read and watched a lot of shoe/ pedal reviews and somehow none of them managed to mention this very important aspect. Nice work dude

  • @user-rj9ui3sz8u
    @user-rj9ui3sz8u11 ай бұрын

    Shout out to One Up composite pedals. Nice and light, good grip.

  • @BikeRodeo
    @BikeRodeo11 ай бұрын

    After blowing out a couple pairs of crank brothers stamp 1, I went to the RaceFace Atlas and will never turn back. I rode Chesters for years and never had an issue. Figured the Atlas would be just as reliable. Totally amazing pedal.

  • @rhoff7272

    @rhoff7272

    8 ай бұрын

    Also been riding Chester's for years, never had a problem, but I'm mostly just trail riding with some shorter drops/jumps

  • @fabzfeast9008

    @fabzfeast9008

    3 ай бұрын

    Hi. Would you still recommend them?

  • @BikeRodeo

    @BikeRodeo

    3 ай бұрын

    Can’t go wrong with RaceFace.

  • @mikaeljacobsson1437
    @mikaeljacobsson143711 ай бұрын

    Love my Race Face Chester flats with fiveten shoes. I have never used anything than flats because i feel safer and ride harder with proper flat pedals.

  • @Ceemysix

    @Ceemysix

    11 ай бұрын

    Same here. I ride clipped on the road, but that is a whole different ballgame.

  • @joshdexter1317

    @joshdexter1317

    11 ай бұрын

    I loved mine till I tried the deftraps. Now the see the Chester's as pedals that come on walmart bikes lol

  • @ctsingletrack
    @ctsingletrack11 ай бұрын

    I have 2 words for you. One Up. Super low profile, indestructible, mega grippy, and they come in some awesome colors.

  • @Ballantin
    @Ballantin11 ай бұрын

    Great video. I am surprised that you didn't try any other more common pedals like the Nukeproof, DMR or Crank Brothers. In general I do prefer flat pedals too but pin position can be a bit of a hit and miss depending on your shoes. And speaking about shoes, it is very hard to find flat pedal shoes that are waterproof.

  • @jameswhyte3834

    @jameswhyte3834

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah I’ve got nukeproof pedals and there so grippy I actually forget about having to keep my feet on the bike, kind of what I imagine riding clipped in is like

  • @hambo76

    @hambo76

    11 ай бұрын

    I find Nukeproof pedals to be too small. If they made an XL version I'd happily switch back as they're great value and look great!

  • @dvs620

    @dvs620

    11 ай бұрын

    ​@@hambo76 Crank Brothers Stamp pedals have a large pedal that offers loads of grip and room for your foot to move around. Surprised Raceface didn't make the cut either. Although I find Chesters too small as well.

  • @ostankovalex1176

    @ostankovalex1176

    11 ай бұрын

    @@dvs620 they'll be releasing new ones in 2 sizes soon not sure if they have already

  • @b4bnik

    @b4bnik

    11 ай бұрын

    @@jameswhyte3834 nope, no where near it lol

  • @leroywilliams7210
    @leroywilliams721011 ай бұрын

    Foot Size has a huge impact. I’ve had most these and half dozen others. New favorites are Dagga and TMAC as I’m a size 13 and my foot hangs off many the others. Like the Scarab would cause pain between the metatarsals of my pinky toe. Deftrap was my favorite and only pedal on 3 bikes for its grip, size and cost for years but I think the plastic body flexes more and I bent 3 spindles at 220 lbs aggressive rider. Pro Tip: For a little concavity and more grip I often remove the 2 pins in the middle of the pedal like on my Daggas and that adds weight to the other pins and some relief in the middle. 🤙🏼 Great Review!

  • @dytrdr5

    @dytrdr5

    11 ай бұрын

    Have you tried the catalyst pedal by pedaling innovations? They’re massive

  • @leroywilliams7210

    @leroywilliams7210

    11 ай бұрын

    @@dytrdr5 Yes I have. I had the original Catalyst and the problem with it was it was long but narrow and my pinky toe kinda hung off. I have a Neroma that sometimes bothers me and those pedals really did as they were way narrower than most. Also one axles would come loose all the time since they had no lock nut and both were right hand threads. I then got the Catalyst XL and they still weren’t as wide as many of these other pedals but they were close enough they didn’t bother my foot. The problem was the pins at such a large surface had little gription. I installed the long pins then tried removing half of them to get more weight per pin but they never came close to the grip of a Scarrab, Tmac, Deftrap, Atlas, OneUp, etc.

  • @LastAphelion

    @LastAphelion

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah i wish he tried dagga with the inner pins out, i hear the same from other owners as soon as they take more pins out it feels way better. I actually have a pair thats been sitting here all month because I couldnt decide whether to keep and try or send back until I heard more about them, but I think Im gonna keep them after I found that advice!

  • @MrHawkis
    @MrHawkis11 ай бұрын

    Love watching you ride Jeff and loved watching the video! Great comparison between pedals, hell of a breakdown.

  • @endurogod5230
    @endurogod523011 ай бұрын

    You don't know how much I love that you but the concavity and other stats in, that is very thorough

  • @tootingturtle1245
    @tootingturtle124511 ай бұрын

    Awesome video, I am making the transition from clipless to flats. So I appreciate your product reviews!

  • @thejonathanrath
    @thejonathanrath11 ай бұрын

    Mr. Weed I just came across your channel in my search for the yeti sb140 and mate, you have me in stitches. I’ll need pedals of course, so this popped up. Glad your alive and still charging!

  • @seanscott7120
    @seanscott712011 ай бұрын

    Great video and very informative. I would have loved to see the Spank Spike thrown in the mix and also Oneup,

  • @nathanclair3495
    @nathanclair349511 ай бұрын

    What a great video! Concise review and comparison with no BS filler, plus some great riding!

  • @lostman65
    @lostman6511 ай бұрын

    i’m so glad you liked the kona wah wah! that was my first ever flat pedal experience and i don’t like anything else now. i’ve had 4 pairs since 2017

  • @onmissionmtb9722
    @onmissionmtb972211 ай бұрын

    So helpful I'm in the market for new shoes. I just bought the kona pedals and love them. Your one of my fav mtb dudes on the tube!

  • @corydalus981
    @corydalus98111 ай бұрын

    My personal favorite flat pedal is the Catalyst by Pedaling Innovations. They are quite long (the longest made, I think). So grippy that I suffered a torn calf muscle a few years ago in a freak accident where one foot stayed firmly attached to the pedal while I and my bike somersaulted backward off a short steep climb that I totally screwed up....

  • @LastAphelion

    @LastAphelion

    11 ай бұрын

    omfg

  • @bradsanders6954

    @bradsanders6954

    5 ай бұрын

    Im a Catalyst user, got 3 pair of the things. I dont ride anything like a maniac mt bike rider, but I go as fast as I can.

  • @delaneywaltman
    @delaneywaltman11 ай бұрын

    No oneup components? I think they're top three in today's pedals. I don't feel you can make a realistic comparison without them.

  • @jules9094

    @jules9094

    11 ай бұрын

    I ride the oneup flats and I can’t fault them. Love them

  • @spiffpilot2589

    @spiffpilot2589

    11 ай бұрын

    Alloy OneUps aren’t compatible with carbon Sram cranks. Limiting factor for sure.

  • @rbutter9200

    @rbutter9200

    11 ай бұрын

    Maybe Jenson doesn't sell them? My go to pedals last 3 years

  • @forest_biker684
    @forest_biker68411 ай бұрын

    Switched to flats 2.5 years back, tried a number of flats but really couldn’t beat the DMR Vaults or Crank Brothers Stamp 7 Large. I’m also rocking Sasquatch size 15 five tens! Great video Jeff, never tried any of those. Thanks for the heads up!

  • @mrvwbug4423
    @mrvwbug442311 ай бұрын

    Have to wonder how the OneUp pedals and CB Stamps compare in this lineup.

  • @rbutter9200

    @rbutter9200

    11 ай бұрын

    Really surprised no OneUps

  • @18cjosh

    @18cjosh

    11 ай бұрын

    Every alloy pair of Oneups I’ve had have squeaked pretty badly….love the look/feel but really distracting noise.

  • @pizzapie4me

    @pizzapie4me

    11 ай бұрын

    I like the One Up alloys, but that huge inboard bearing and relatively short pins really hold them back, imo.

  • @Nullking_
    @Nullking_11 ай бұрын

    I spent sometime on the Deity Deftraps and really enjoyed them. I did find the plastic that made up the body was too soft and caused bad gouging when stricken by rocks. This also caused stripping of the nuts places where the pins are at, when trying to remove snapped off pins makes me loose a pin placement on the pedal.

  • @burkebair
    @burkebair11 ай бұрын

    Great video as always. I have been riding SPD's since they were born. I tried flats for a year(Saints and DMR V11's were my favorites), but back to clipless currently running Crank Bros E Mallets and liking them. Curious about the Saint SPD's though. Thanks again for your insight!

  • @jokermtb
    @jokermtb11 ай бұрын

    My feet stick out to the sides (must have been too big for the womb), so smaller platforms don't really work for my 'duck footed' natural stance. It's why I absolutely love Kona's Wah Wah lineup, where the extra large platform (almost 120mm x 120mm) really let me keep my feet in a comfortable position. I've found over the years, after observing where my 5-10 shoe soles repeatedly wear-thru, that if I remove the front corner pedal pin, I'll avoid wearing a hole thru my shoe, as my riding stance places a lot of pressure on the front outer corner of any pedal I'm riding. I've found 5-10 freerider and freerider pro's have very thin soles and will wear thru unless you really manage where the pins are on your pedals, whereas the thicker 5-10 Impact sole resists pin wear thru much better. Strategically removing pins is a good trick to dial in your own preference for foot stance on the pedal when using lots of body english thru the feet. I usually get a season from the composite Kona pedals before they crack (still rideable) at one of the diagonal struts off the main axle, and for the aluminum ones, they're much tougher than the composit pedals - well worth twice the price - on my bike for over a year now w/ no issues (I'm 205 lbs too). Great vid for riders considering making the switch, as I have (I finally ditched clip ins for good in 1998).

  • @jonnysnakes5417
    @jonnysnakes541711 ай бұрын

    Nice vid, Been thinking of getting dagga pedals for my dh bike

  • @billblake4029
    @billblake402911 ай бұрын

    Jeff, a really fantastic review Sir. Your time and efforts are greatly appreciated. By the way, and for what it's worth, that's a really good looking shirt that you are wearing.

  • @laramiegrinde9246
    @laramiegrinde924611 ай бұрын

    I rode the WahWah composite pedals on all my bikes. I'm a smaller rider so love that they come in a small size. So far I've had a ton of grip on them when riding with my 5/10 shoes.

  • @christopherbolton5311
    @christopherbolton531111 ай бұрын

    Being from that part of the east coast, I appreciated your Wawa reference. They are loved around here and would make for a sick pedal.

  • @iRideDumb
    @iRideDumb11 ай бұрын

    Jeff, love the content, keep it up! I switch back and forth between clips and flats, and have ridden both in most all conditions. One big thing I’ve noticed riding fatbikes the snow is that a shorter spindle pedal with that little “gap” towards the outside (like the Kona or Shimano you mention) work better than the longer spindle (Dagga or Scarab) that carries out to the width of the pedal. What I find is that ice builds up on the longer spindle pedals, where the gap of the shorter allows that snow to fall through and ice does not build up. I also notice a difference in ice build up elsewhere on the pedal between composite and metal, where composite seems to ice faster (maybe because of the pours in the material).

  • @jaybartlett2561
    @jaybartlett256111 ай бұрын

    Been rocking the Stamp 7s with 5/10 shoes for a few seasons and am happy with that setup.

  • @lenolenoleno
    @lenolenoleno11 ай бұрын

    Another fantastic vid Jeff! My favorite pedals (after having gone through 10 pairs): OneUp Aluminum (as they're nice and thin, the sealing is the best I've had and one of the few pedals that don't require bushing/bearing removal tools to overhaul which adds cost) with Chromag Dagga pins (as they're long, thin and threaded at the end with a tapered bottom to prevent issues with broken pins. Chromag make the best pins on the market, and agree with what you've said that most of the grip comes from the pins. OneUp pins are long but unfortunately don't aren't threaded at the tip in order to ease replacement, but also reduces grip ).

  • @tayloru8282
    @tayloru828211 ай бұрын

    Such a cool video! Would love to see the same thing with another set of contenders: OneUp, RaceFaces, and so on.

  • @abuckcat
    @abuckcat11 ай бұрын

    I've been using kona wa wa composite pedals for a few years now very good pedal has held up well

  • @leightonlkyle
    @leightonlkyle11 ай бұрын

    Thanks Jeff! Great video 👍🏻 Like others in the comments, I’ve riden Raceface Chesters with Pearl Azumi shoes for the last few years and found them great!

  • @heinzbeanzz7267
    @heinzbeanzz726711 ай бұрын

    Nukeproof horizon pro DH are my go to, love em to bits

  • @ronlind1757
    @ronlind175711 ай бұрын

    Great video! Would have loved to seen DMR (Brendogs) and Wolftooth Components (Waveform)....

  • @fenderbenderspecial
    @fenderbenderspecial11 ай бұрын

    I've been using the composite Wah Wahs (aka the Wee Wee!) for years and they are my favorite so far. The huge platform and great grip haven't been beat by anything else I've tried. I started with composite Crank Brothers Stamp, but I kept sliding around and losing my footing on those. They've been relegated to the commuter bike.

  • @lesterfalcon1350
    @lesterfalcon135010 ай бұрын

    Had to size up with the Enduras, and for my wide shovel feet they are a good fit. Strangely the sizing up was more for the length. I also found the ankle pad rubbed, but it stopped after my second ride as it broke in and is now not a problem. I ride a lot of rocky trains and these shoes give loads of protection. I couldn't be happier. In fact if I ever return to clipless they some ina clipless version, so hopefully a future iterarion is similar. I love the cooler, and wish more shoes would escape the blacks and dull greys.

  • @pauldelarzac615
    @pauldelarzac61511 ай бұрын

    Jeff I separated my shoulder and shattered my hand because of clipless. After 20 years do clips Went to flats 3 years ago and have had no serious wipe outs. Was surprised by the grip and improved my technique in almost every case. Love them and will never go back.

  • @hanstubben
    @hanstubben11 ай бұрын

    The Crank Brothers Stamp 1 composite do an excellent job paired with my 5/10 Freerider shoes for my kind of riding.

  • @akatz13
    @akatz1311 ай бұрын

    always love watching you shred but woulda been nice to have more uphill techy features and the performance/your thoughts of each pedal/shoe.

  • @jason-dy5ou
    @jason-dy5ouАй бұрын

    Really funny you put this out there. I have been riding clipless pedals since the mid 90's as well and this year ditched them for good. Todays features and trails are way more suited to flats. Good buy for good clipless. (shoes are cheaper too)

  • @jules9094
    @jules909411 ай бұрын

    Oneup Components pedals paired with shimano GR903 are my go to. Absolutely love the grip and the look of both

  • @jonathanbenn2241
    @jonathanbenn224111 ай бұрын

    I've used 5\10s and Shimano XTs for a while now, on all my bikes. Great combo.

  • @hambo76
    @hambo7611 ай бұрын

    I couldn't find Kona Wah Wah 2 composite anywhere in Australia so I went with Deity Deftraps and I'm not disappointed! My shoe is a size 48 Specialized 2FO Roost.

  • @69indigoblue
    @69indigoblue10 ай бұрын

    Thanks a lot for this informative video you put so much work in. Everybody will say this and through their beloved pedals in the ring, but to me the DMR Vault family is definately missing in this contest. The original VAULT are great for big feet, have a ton of grip and strong bearings. My go to pedals for the last decade....thats what "Brendog" says too...:-)

  • @dadbod4life
    @dadbod4life11 ай бұрын

    No Raceface Atlas or One up pedals? There are a couple others id include as well. However you did include a lot of popular pedals and your content is always on par. Great video.

  • @NoBrakes23
    @NoBrakes2311 ай бұрын

    I've tried a heap of pedals over the last decade. I haven't found a favorite alloy pedal yet, but I favor the composite Wah Wahs and the OneUp composites. As for shoes, I miss the few early years of Adidas' purchase of 5.10 when they were using Stealth rubber on their Terrex line. Soooooo much lighter and water resistant than 5.10s and without the goofy Dollar General version of 2000-era DC look that 5.10 favors. (If that sounds like I'm talking trash about 5.10s, that hasn't stopped me from owning more than a dozen pair of 5.10s.)

  • @RichieD088
    @RichieD08811 ай бұрын

    👍 Jeff ! … I run 2 sets of Crankbrothers Stamp 7s .. Favoites !!! ✌️ always great watching 👍

  • @oldkayakdude
    @oldkayakdude11 ай бұрын

    Been on flats for coming up on 2 decades after about 15 years clip'd in. The best thin flat I have used is the old Podium 1 pedal, bought by Gamut but then discontinued. Would like to test out some 5Devs at some point. I stick to thin flats and never really have any foot slips. One thing to note is some shoes get way too stiff and don't sink into the pins as well as a little softer shoe.

  • @user-xr3fs3fu7d
    @user-xr3fs3fu7d11 ай бұрын

    Your video about flat pedals and shoes was very informative. I adore the wah wah plastic pedal and am riding 3 pairs of them on 3 different bikes. Sturdy, robust not one changed spindle or bearing. As I work in a bike shop and I will just hint you that I adore the Kona Process in your video, I love the front wheel! Nice touch! If you would be interested I would suggest you do a video about xpedo spry pedals since they offer I think 3 or 4 variations of pins they offer and that are changeable. And the pedals are magnesium they are really lightweight. But the pins they offer are interesting, different shapes and you had such a detailed video that I would personally love a video just about the grip on one pedals with different shape pins. Cheers!

  • @denesk2794
    @denesk279411 ай бұрын

    Ooo .. I drive a car - with clutch - in MTB shoes 5+ times a week. A flat pedal shoe. They feel the same as any other sneaker, better than most due to the slight rigidity. It's not like I am going to be heel-toe shifting a diesel truck :O My new favourite is Yoshimura. Still use Hope an I like it (less grip in mud). The new Shimano Saint/XT is good, but it is a very catchy shape when it touches down, bulky too. One thing I look at when trying new is pin width. Skinny pins give a good grip, but they more likely to rip into your clothes or skin. In addition they also destroy shoes super fast. That's why I am pretty much for Yoshimura, Hope.

  • @Soulslider70

    @Soulslider70

    11 ай бұрын

    Never purchase a "trail activity support vehicle" that one can't drive (including a clutch) with their bike shoes, ski boot or snowboard boots on. 😁🤘

  • @denesk2794

    @denesk2794

    11 ай бұрын

    @@Soulslider70 lol .. maybe not ski boots :) But one can drive an automatic with a peg-leg, so an MTB shoe should be just fine..

  • @chrismrobison

    @chrismrobison

    11 ай бұрын

    I am curious as to why he said that. Maybe a mindset thing? I can drive slightly better in my 510s because the added weight and rigidity help me operate my clutch slightly better.

  • @NE_RAW_MTB
    @NE_RAW_MTB11 ай бұрын

    My favorite flats at the moment are the Anvl Tilts, I have a set on all my bikes now replacing TMac's

  • @PatrickPecoraro
    @PatrickPecoraro3 ай бұрын

    I really appreciate data driven reviews.

  • @MichaelAverycarhauler1969
    @MichaelAverycarhauler196911 ай бұрын

    I own a set of Shimano Saint PD M-828's, they allowed me to recreate the concave platform I was accustomed to with the now ancient, but still venerable, Shimano DX pedals from my freestyle BMX days in the 80's. By using the long pins on the outer perimeter, & shorter pins in the center around the spindle I was able to create the concavity I was looking for. Though I currently ride a set of OneUp Aluminum pedals, which with my 5.10 Trailcross GTX's have all of the grip you could possibly ever need, or want, IMO.

  • @jimbo4203
    @jimbo420311 ай бұрын

    I have some Azonics that have lasted for years , but my Shimano Saints are real nice and my current favorites

  • @user-gg2el5jq9i
    @user-gg2el5jq9i11 ай бұрын

    Thanks for being honest about the pnw

  • @Les_Grossman
    @Les_Grossman11 ай бұрын

    I got bike shoes instead of skate shoes to ride my Surron recently- INCREDIBLE- feels like glued in 👍

  • @mk3driftmotion
    @mk3driftmotion11 ай бұрын

    I have run One-Up Aluminum pedals, Crankbrothers Stamp 7 Large MacAskill Edition pedals, and the new redesigned Raceface Atlas pedals. The One-Up pedals are now hanging on my garage wall. I don't like how they still use a bushing rather than all sealed bearings, they have too much play after a short time, too much drag, and don't inspire confidence. My Crank Brothers Stamp 7 and Raceface Atlas pedals are both awesome, highly recommend both of those.

  • @anthonyvizzo1456
    @anthonyvizzo145611 ай бұрын

    A man who calls the clip pedals..... Clip pedals.... Subscribed

  • @JeffVlimant
    @JeffVlimant11 ай бұрын

    A year ago, I found some pedals that I found pretty much indestructible.. the DMR VALT11 which are expensive but looks good and easily serviceable. And the Yoshimura bike pedals. Which in my opinion are the best on the market... And I tried the Yoshimura on a bike that wasn't even mine. It's that good.

  • @bigslacker666
    @bigslacker66611 ай бұрын

    For me, Five Ten freerider pro and really any pedal seems to be good. I've had T-macs, DMR Vault, XT, Rock Bros, Funn and some others. Because the Freerider pro grips so well I've just settled on cheapy pedals, Funn on my park bike and Rockbros on the dirt jumper.

  • @hardtailgang
    @hardtailgang11 ай бұрын

    Swapped to Deftraps a year or two ago simply because they had a particular shade of pink that matched the accents on my bike. I actually love them a lot - it's nice that they're so affordable too. Been hearing good things about the Etnies entry into mountain bike shoes, but I've got two perfectly good pairs of pre-Adidas 510s that I can't justify grabbing a pair.

  • @LastAphelion

    @LastAphelion

    11 ай бұрын

    I keep hearing nothing but the best about deftraps but i gotta ask Ive heard from some that the nylon pins just break off right away which sounds lame, but even if thats true im wondering if they feel the best even with them missing?

  • @hardtailgang

    @hardtailgang

    11 ай бұрын

    @@LastAphelion mine are all still in tact. I like to ride a lot of tech on my hardtail and they're still going strong. Only 2 out of the 10 pins on each side are nylon and they're the ones closest to the spindle on the inside foot. I imagine they're nylon because that area of the pedal gets the least wear. Probably depends on the shoe used and rider stance too.

  • @WorkLessRideMore
    @WorkLessRideMore11 ай бұрын

    Love the tmacs. Riding them with ride concepts

  • @dhrida5518
    @dhrida551811 ай бұрын

    From my personal experience what I look out for when buying pedals and shoes is the pedals must have a cromoli shaft that is really a must, I used a few pedals back in the day once I used nylon pedals it felt diferent, as they feel diferent it seems they tend to absorb impacts like when you go over a rock garden instead of shaking your shoe out of the pedal, shoes I mostly buy skateboard shoes as the sole bends easily to grip whatever surface it's standing on, so my pedal choice as of right now are race face chester, I had them for maybe a year so far so good.

  • @JLambinator
    @JLambinator11 ай бұрын

    Chromag Dags paired with 2FO shoes are my favorite combo right now! Great vid Jeff. So, after two years of riding flats, are you up to speed compared to clipless?

  • @scrutch666
    @scrutch66611 ай бұрын

    I have the chromag dagga on all my bike’s because of the superb grip. I feel almost as if i could pedal like with clipless. Only thing i noticed is that they can make a squishy noise when dirt comes into the rubber sealing

  • @jacobkoder4903
    @jacobkoder490311 ай бұрын

    Good stuff! I have been on flats for a long time now and it is extremely rare for me to drop a foot. I can easily keep pace climbing with the guys too. It takes practice.

  • @dadventuretv2538

    @dadventuretv2538

    11 ай бұрын

    Yeah me too. If I hear someone talk about slipping pedals these days I’m like- either you have the wrong pedal and shoe setup, or bad technique. The grip on modern flats with proper shoes is incredible. I can actually pull on the upstroke just like in clipless.

  • @dadventuretv2538
    @dadventuretv253811 ай бұрын

    Great vid as usual Jeff. You should check out Ride Concepts Vice mtb shoes. They have essentially the waffle sole of Vans on a stiffer last. I absolutely love the waffle sole because the pins actually sit in the holes of the sole. The soles, while super grippy, don’t just rely on the grippiness of the rubber for the grip, but actually lock the pins into place by having the pins sit in the holes of the sole. Also, they seem to be having a lot less wear than 510s because the pins aren’t tearing up the soles, they just sit in a hole made for them. I can pull up on the upstroke and actually have to lift my foot off the pedal ever so slightly to move my foot. Absolutely love the the shoe. They were a bit narrow in the toe box for me, but unlacing and then lacing looser seems to have worked. Re pedals, I think the other things that are important are the number of pins and placement location of the pins on the pedal. Probably every rider will feel differently about location depending on how they place their weight on their foot and where they like to have their foot on the pedal when they ride. For me, Tmacs for my smasher bike because of their durability and DefTraps for everything else paired with the Ride Concept Vice shoes is a match made in heaven.

  • @ScottsMTB
    @ScottsMTB11 ай бұрын

    Great to know! I just crashed on flats but it would have been a lot worse on clip ends floating off the trail on my bike.

  • @lathamstylemtb
    @lathamstylemtb11 ай бұрын

    Crank bros stamp 7 Large for me. Love the large platform for size 13 shoe

  • @WALSRU
    @WALSRU11 ай бұрын

    Went from almost 5 years clipped in Mallets. Tried Chesters and went back. Tried again with PNW Loam and actually found them instantly comfortable. Love the in depth review, might have gone a different route if I saw this sooner but I'm loving my current set up. 🤘

  • @user-gg2el5jq9i

    @user-gg2el5jq9i

    11 ай бұрын

    Pnw loams aren’t very good so many others are even better

  • @bradsanders6954

    @bradsanders6954

    11 ай бұрын

    @@user-gg2el5jq9i Mine work great! Have 3 pair of them.

  • @WALSRU

    @WALSRU

    11 ай бұрын

    @@user-gg2el5jq9i correction realized I have "range" pedals, the composite version. These seem to be less bulged in the middle. I never noticed the convex wearing my 5/10s and definitely can't slip my feet if I try. Might just be a better pairing than some other shoes.

  • @PassiveIZ
    @PassiveIZ11 ай бұрын

    Good video! Would have loved to see the Crankbrothers Stamps in there tho, as that is pretty much the market standard (much like the FiveTens are in the shoe category). I do tho understand that the sponsor of the video may not be a provider of those.

  • @FoxRob93
    @FoxRob938 ай бұрын

    My favorite combination is my 510 Freerides and DMR V12's no more foot cramping I got wit other pedals.

  • @grahampye2314
    @grahampye231411 ай бұрын

    Interesting: I found TMACS to be the most grippy and have tried about a dozen different pedals - though a bit chunky and made pedal strikes more likely to blow your foot off (no slanted leading edge). I preferred riding TMACS with Shimano shoes, not fancy Five10s - that was too much traction and made it feel like my foot had to be raised a foot off the pedal before I could reposition when needed. I tried Chromag Contacts and they're my least favorite. Marin's new OSO pedals were good composites, OneUps were good in both alloy and composite, Giant has some really good pedals (the grip at least) but developed some bearing play a bit too soon. Crank Brothers fit nicely into good traction, slim profile, and longevity - for me it would likely be Crank Brothers, Marin or OneUp as my favorites

  • @-tr0n
    @-tr0n11 ай бұрын

    Surprised there's no Raceface on the list! Great review, love the info.

  • @MrCrazeDawg
    @MrCrazeDawg11 ай бұрын

    My combo that works perfectly for me is Hope F20 Pedals and Specialized 2fo roost dh shoes. LIke glued to pedals

  • @justin_fore

    @justin_fore

    10 ай бұрын

    2nd the Hope F20! Probably the best pin design IMO. I have them on them on my HT, FS, and DJ and use 510s, and had to remove 5 pins/side to reduce grip enough to reposition.

  • @worldstallestmidget
    @worldstallestmidget11 ай бұрын

    I have used the t macs. Didn’t like them. I really liked the specialized boom slangs! Nice platform really comfortable. Good talk pins needed servicing a lot. Now I am hooked on the pnw loam pedal! It just feels fine in my bike feet! I wear 5 10s all the time! Have been wearing since 2010 I think. And lastly I have never tried clipping in. Always rode flat shoes from my bmx and trying freestyle days! So I am ok with not being attached to the bike. You can still go fast plenty fast with flats!

  • @binshuo
    @binshuo11 ай бұрын

    I chuckled at "can I get a vowel" on the shimano pedal name. Upvote for that

  • @user-je8zr1op5r
    @user-je8zr1op5r11 ай бұрын

    I felt that the Etnies with the Michelin rubber outperformed and outlasted my 510 pros. I really like the Stamp 7s for pedals as they have great grip but replacing the pins sucks. I have switched to chromag but also really like the oneups

  • @illgazillion
    @illgazillion10 ай бұрын

    I would love to see what you think about Squidworx pedals.

  • @seanknight9898
    @seanknight989811 ай бұрын

    I know you’re testing from Jensen only but my socks have been recently knocked off by my Pedal Innovations Catalysts pedals. Out side the box design and philosophy that has completely changed the game for me.

  • @russelrivera5044

    @russelrivera5044

    11 ай бұрын

    Love my Wah Wahs and really love my catalyst pedals. I wish the Pins were better though, and the sharp edges really leave a mark on your shins.

  • @manfredstrappen7491
    @manfredstrappen7491Ай бұрын

    Love to see the outtake crashes because it’s the only thing in these videos where I can say “I can do that!”

  • @bradsanders6954
    @bradsanders695411 ай бұрын

    It must be a very personal thing, 4 years on flats and the PNW composite pedals work absolutely great, for me. And they sell cubic yit loads of them, at a nice price. I dont know how many mt bikers ride like you do, and bend spindles and break pelvis's etc. Those are things I wont be doing. Good video! I always see testers saying "almost nearly as a good as 5/10" when it comes to shoes. I cut to the chase and have a couple pair of 5/10's The winter 5/10 you showed looks good.

  • @marauder7412
    @marauder741211 ай бұрын

    Been running the Deathtraps for a bit over 2 years now on my Sight. Plenty of rock hits, but never had any issues. Plenty of grip, and can attest to the durability. I also find that composite pedals have better grip due to the thinner pins.

  • @pgjudo

    @pgjudo

    11 ай бұрын

    I run Deftraps on one of my bikes too and love them, but my buddy just busted one and now I’m a little sketched out. Probably fine though.

  • @superrandomguy29
    @superrandomguy2911 ай бұрын

    I like my crank brothers pedals. Ive been riding flats for over 20 years never tried clipped in

  • @mattjam99
    @mattjam9911 ай бұрын

    You should test out the RaceFace Atlas peddles. So far they are my favorite. I liked then better than the Wawa's and Composite Wawas

  • @AndreaCampaner88
    @AndreaCampaner8811 ай бұрын

    That subscribe disclaimer/ad was hilarious 😂😂😂

  • @brianbass4971
    @brianbass497111 ай бұрын

    Thanks! I’ll nominate another local company for your next pedal review: Tenet and their flagship Omen pedal. Machined in Bellingham!

  • @z06baron6
    @z06baron611 ай бұрын

    You should have 1 m subs.. Love your content

  • @martinekliw
    @martinekliw11 ай бұрын

    My perfect combo for the Enduro bike is Syntace NumberNine Flat Pedals with Five10 Shoes. They have lots of grip. But when I ride Streettrials also with Syntace NumberNine Pedals, I cannot use the Five10 Shoes because they have too much grip. I use VANS skate/bmx shoes instead. They have the perfect balance between grip and movement. 😆

  • @mybadvideos
    @mybadvideos11 ай бұрын

    I'm liking the 2nd generation RF Atlas so far rhis season! (Shoes are RC Powerline)

  • @davec3568
    @davec356811 ай бұрын

    I've been on flats for over 10 years, so far my favorites are Tectonic out of Durango, CO. Carbon fiber reinforced plastic, concave, very grippy, light.

  • @AwesomeRedKite

    @AwesomeRedKite

    11 ай бұрын

    just looked and it appears they don't make them any more....bummer they sounds like something I'd love

  • @hootie_owl2771
    @hootie_owl277111 ай бұрын

    Recently switched to flats after 10 years of clips out of curiosity. Enjoying it alot, went with crank bros stamps and while i know nothing about flats, the stamps feel super natural. No complaints.

  • @boyongo0700

    @boyongo0700

    11 ай бұрын

    I have been riding the stamp 2 for about a year and a half now. Ive hit them on rocks and a bunch of stuff and still work great. Also recently I been using them with the cranckbrother stamp shoes its a good match (no pun intended). I was riding the freeriders before and they do have a bit more grip but nothing crazy. I had go one full size up on the cranckbrothers shoes tho and they are more comfortable and have more toebox space than 5.10s.

  • @hootie_owl2771

    @hootie_owl2771

    11 ай бұрын

    @@boyongo0700 good to hear was worried about the durability because of crank bros old issues with their clipless pedals

  • @boyongo0700

    @boyongo0700

    11 ай бұрын

    @@hootie_owl2771 well no issues here so far!

  • @goforbroke2
    @goforbroke211 ай бұрын

    I’ve snapped the spindle on those same model Shimano XT pedals and the Kona Wah Wah composites. I’ve come to the conclusion that any pedal that doesn’t have the spindle run the entire width of the pedal is WEAK. Both of these pedals snapped on my single speed while pedalling, not jumping or etc. Running the Chromag Dagga’s now, hopefully they last a while….

  • @wyric
    @wyric11 ай бұрын

    Was on Shimano XT, good pedals, but sometimes too much grip. Switched to Crankbrothers Stamp 7, less grip, but like them more.

  • @mushroomgrove05
    @mushroomgrove0511 ай бұрын

    I feel like the nukeproof horizons are the gold standard if you can get them. I have them paired with five ten freeriders and they hold up great after slamming on the grown quite a few time. There's a reason sam hill uses them

  • @felipeestebanmandiolagrecc9658
    @felipeestebanmandiolagrecc965811 ай бұрын

    Jeff, Veo tus videos y subo de inmediato a pedalear!!!!!!!! Eres motivación total!!!!! Thank you👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @ddrenth
    @ddrenth11 ай бұрын

    I enjoyed this video

  • @dadbod4life
    @dadbod4life11 ай бұрын

    I forgot you were the plywood pedal guy!! WOW!!

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