THE ZOOM DECEPTION: Cropping vs Higher Megapixel Camera vs Teleconverters vs Longer Lenses.

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  • @simon_dentremont
    @simon_dentremont6 күн бұрын

    A few people have come to the defence of crop mode, and that’s fair game. I was kind of limiting the discussion mainly around cropping and reach. And some of those comments do play out in real life: - saving memory space, speed of workflow - metering could be more accurate as no extraneous information that’s not in the final image is being used in metering - autofocus could be faster as there are fewer focus points (this one my experience says is only kind of true…in older DSLRs there was indeed an inverse relationship between number of focus points and focus speed, but much less so in modern cameras with newer faster processors wheee my recent experience is that there isn’t much of a link). But there’s one point that’s been made several times that I don’t think is the case. It’s that the AF is more accurate as it can see more detail or that there are more focus points being used in crop mode. Remember, there’s no new information to the camera or the image or the focus sensors in crop mode…all the camera does is discard the edges of the frame. And if anything, with modern cameras often using on-sensor phase detection pixels embedded in the sensor, when part of the sensor is being lost you loose focus detection pixels. Also, good focus these days comes in large part from good predictive analytics that track subjects well, and the wider field of view you have the more tracking and predictability you bring to bear. Some have also suggested that in crop mode, the camera can “see the eyes better for eye focus”. Again, I don’t think this is the case. There’s no magnification taking place here, just cropping. All this being said, I’m always open to learn and want to make the best videos I can. None of us are as smart as all of us. If any of you have technical info that suggests otherwise to what I’ve said, please share!

  • @buyaport

    @buyaport

    5 күн бұрын

    Totally right! Of course the camera uses always the whole sensor when taking a picture. There is no hardware for cropping! The cropping is done by the in-camera software (raw to raw processing). The same as with medium or small raw - or with different raw picture formats on newer Nikon cameras (like 1:1 etc.). -- This guy really does know what he is talking about, doing his homework and not relying on hearsay. Absolutely trustworthy!

  • @Ozpeter

    @Ozpeter

    4 күн бұрын

    You've referred to "crop mode" but I suspect that is different from the mode some less exotic cameras have. For instance there's the "Ext Tele Conv" function on many Panasonic cameras which claims to not cause quality loss up to a certain point, and some very reputable reviewers have tested it carefully and confirmed that, within limits, it can be used without embarrassment. Exactly how it does that goes right over the top of my head but it's quite different from digital zoom. Then there's the trick that they used on the humble DJI Pocket 2, which has a quad beyer sensor. As I understand it, it normally uses the pixels in groups of four, effectively giving (say) 12MP. But when you use the zoom function (which is not optical) it uses the individual pixels, thus doing something like a crop from 4 x 12 = 48MP, thus giving better results than normal digital zoom (subject to the downside of using very small pixels). The more recent Pocket 3 has a larger sensor with about 12MP only and can't do what the previous version does - its zoom is a straight digital zoom and isn't recommended. Lastly, in all these discussions, the anticipated print or display size is relevant - even a basic crop can look ok when printed postcard size or on a phone. But it might look grim on a poster or 4K monitor.

  • @buyaport

    @buyaport

    4 күн бұрын

    @@Ozpeter The Panasonic manual (page 150 for the G9) claims indeed "Extra Tele Conversion enables you to take pictures that are further enlarged without deteriorating the picture quality." But at the same time they say :"Set the picture size to [M] [for 1.4 "teleconversion"] or [S] [for 2.0])". M is a 10 MP, and S a 5 MP picture instead of a normal 20 MP picture. So a 1.4 "ext. teleconv." picture is a 10 MP crop from the full size picture. So this is just marketing, not any magical function! Never use it for reasons mentioned in the video.

  • @Ozpeter

    @Ozpeter

    4 күн бұрын

    @@buyaport But that takes us into the whole "how many pixels do you actually need" thing. And that tends to relate to what you are actually going to do with the image having taken it. Loads of pixels can be handy when you want to crop in when editing, I agree. Or if printing to large output sizes. But for many people who take photographs (I am trying to distinguish between them, or us (!) and actual Photographers) they are unlikely to ever view their photos in ways in which larger numbers of pixels will actually make a difference. Few people have screens of any kind with more than 4MP resolution. Few people have printers which print at greater than A4 size. Will lower pixel count captures matter significantly to them? I personally think that there can be too much obsession over the last bit of viewed technical quality vs the actual content. I'd rather see a stunning composition which has adequate quality than a rubbish composition with technical perfection. But we could discuss this for hours... to summarise I would agree that most of the time, plain digital zoom is no different to cropping when editing, at which point you can choose how it will look at your leisure. Using more sophisticated methods of in-camera digital telephoto can produce better results, so long as you don't plan to crop the limited pixels output any further. I have in mind to produce my own video testing this stuff but will I get around to it? Dunno...

  • @trevourlance27

    @trevourlance27

    3 күн бұрын

    The aps-c cropping mode (at least for me) is a useful tool if you want to improve your workflow faster ... say if you don't have the extra time to crop in post. I think that the ones who most benefit in aps-c mode are sony alpha R series cameras as these usually pack in a lot of pixel / information. But I think where aps-c mode / super35 mode actually benefits for is video workflow ... By using sensor cropping you are able to change your effective fov but you are able to keep your video resolution (which is usually 4K) in my Canon and Sony bodies, this means that if i only have one lens like a 24mm, i can film at both 24mm and "equivalent" 36mm (Sony) or ~40mm (Canon) while being able to keep the 4K resolution.

  • @Jesus503_
    @Jesus503_7 күн бұрын

    I consider Simon my mentor. His videos have taken my photography to the next level and I shoot on a canon m50. After his last video I went out and I had one of my best capture since starting photography. I wish to one day be able to shoot with you. Thank you for this amazing videos.

  • @Maiiftl

    @Maiiftl

    7 күн бұрын

    To me, it looked like he was sick and tired of seeing bad quality advice videos on KZread and decided to make his own, lol.

  • @JeffBourke

    @JeffBourke

    7 күн бұрын

    When I first watched him I thought “who is this Silly Canadian and why does he pronounce his own name so funny?” 😂😂😂😂 yes I love his uploads now despite this.

  • @wasil3k

    @wasil3k

    7 күн бұрын

    Same

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    @@JeffBourke one of many!

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    Too kind!

  • @coffeeandchaos82
    @coffeeandchaos827 күн бұрын

    I've learned more for free from watching this channel than I did from the photography classes I paid good money for. 🤦‍♀️

  • @np3jd37

    @np3jd37

    6 күн бұрын

    me too jaja

  • @quite1enough

    @quite1enough

    3 күн бұрын

    ikr this is a great channel (although I don't agree with some points in this video in particular)

  • @davep2945

    @davep2945

    3 күн бұрын

    That's because he actually understands WHY things work the way they do not just what they do. So he can explain it more simply and effectively.

  • @luisurbina5115

    @luisurbina5115

    14 сағат бұрын

    @@quite1enough please elaborate

  • @carlomaule
    @carlomaule7 күн бұрын

    Simon D'Entremont a name and a guarantee for anyone who wants to advance their skills and knowledge! I've been following you for almost 3 years now, since you opened your channel and every video brings me something more! Thanks Simon !!

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    Awesome, thank you!

  • @johnc2438

    @johnc2438

    7 күн бұрын

    @@simon_dentremont I second that comment from @carlomaule! Wonderful videos and explanations. I'm an old -- very old -- photographer who learned what I know from "analog days" in Navy service in Vietnam (am a long-retired U.S. Navy chief petty officer who used a camera as part of my work there). I have re-learned so very much from your work on KZread. I appreciate the flexibility and ease of the new technologies and the freedom from "chemistry." I remember spending long evenings in medical dispensary x-ray labs "in-country," where I could develop my black and white film and make contact sheets. I became an "expert" and loading six rolls of Tri-X onto metal reels in total darkness and mixing up D-76 developer and then working the fluid carefully into the canister and gently twisting and turning the container to get equal coverage (no bubbles!) on all the negatives. Then, I'd have to stop the development using more chemicals, wash the film, hang the film up next to drying x-rays and wait for it to dry before cutting up the film into strips and making contact sheets. And that's all before turning out one print on a Beseler enlarger! Digital photography is a dream, by comparison, from taking a photo to turning out lovely pictures.

  • @namenloserflo

    @namenloserflo

    7 күн бұрын

    wait, that's really 3 years ago...

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    @@namenloserflo only 2 actually

  • @MurphyGreg
    @MurphyGreg7 күн бұрын

    Simone, you are a master of photography and a master teacher. Thank you so much for sharing your creativity and knowledge. You are our Master Yoda 🙌🤍

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    Wow, thank you!

  • @Quark.Lepton
    @Quark.Lepton5 күн бұрын

    Simon is a brilliant photographer. He uses lenses I could never afford, but his advice is legend.

  • @melly8769

    @melly8769

    4 күн бұрын

    Lenses and cameras. lol. I'm just about to upgrade from a Nikon D5000 to a Nikon D7500. I've had the D5000 for 15 years. lol

  • @techguyml

    @techguyml

    3 күн бұрын

    @@melly8769ok boomer

  • @glintondhas2784
    @glintondhas2784Күн бұрын

    You are the best photography teacher. I have not seen anyone else who is able to explain photography as clearly and understandable as you can. Though I know about some of the topics you discuss in your videos, I still watch it, hoping there will be something more that you can teach me, and you always end up doing it. Thank You.

  • @kathleeneveritt5340
    @kathleeneveritt53407 күн бұрын

    I consider myself as an experienced amateur wildlife photographer but always look forward to your videos , your explanations on the subject are just right , you talk to us not at us , thanks for posting

  • @squidskunk
    @squidskunk7 күн бұрын

    as a novice hobbiest photographer you often answer questions in situations i may have but didn't know to ask... Simon you sharing your professional experience with us is a true gift to the advancement of photography...thank you.

  • @LadanLutfi
    @LadanLutfi7 күн бұрын

    Simon, as always, you outdid yourself. Not only I watch your videos, I take notes also. Then I look at my notes and I realize I write down every single word you say:). Nothing to be missed. Pure gold. Thank you.

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    Many thanks!

  • @davep2945
    @davep29453 күн бұрын

    One of the reasons I chose an APS-C camera was that for my purposes I wanted smaller, lighter and less expensive while being able to have the reach I wanted for wildlife and still plenty of wide field choices. A lot of guys keep telling me full frame is so much better but they don't take better pictures in the same situations. In large part because with the APS-C format I can afford better lenses with more reach for wildlife photography while they have to crop or simply not capture the finer details. They are "specs mean more than practice guys." Sort of like the guys I know who think if they had the same spec golf clubs Scottie Scheffler uses they could probably beat him on the course. For a long time I just knew what worked but not why. Now that I've found Simon's channel I understand why things work and have learned so much that I didn't know. I recommend this channel to anyone into photography.

  • @molybdnum
    @molybdnum7 күн бұрын

    Very well-presented and helpful advice! I differ slightly on crop-mode for a few reasons that would nudge it up my personal rankings. The main one for me is that it can be mapped to a custom button on most cameras, making it an instant on-off toggle (unlike a longer lens or most TCs). With a little practice you can retain most of the subject-tracking and re-composability advantage of a wider FoV and punch in when you want to. Another minor advantage is that if you were going to digitally crop anyway, crop-mode can help nail exposure on the subject if you give the camera the tighter framing to meter now, saving you some IQ loss tweaking exposure in post.

  • @MattTrevett
    @MattTrevett6 күн бұрын

    Crop mode is worth it for video where the resolution is already lower than the sensor. Due to the quicker read speed on the same sensor it can reduce rolling shutter artifacts or artificial strobing. Also you can configure a button on most cameras to quickly switch between modes which has a variety of uses even if you end up taking a full frame photo or video.

  • @FDA-72
    @FDA-727 күн бұрын

    Second! its great when you get on youtube and relise Simon just uploaded

  • @garygoldsmith2889
    @garygoldsmith28897 күн бұрын

    Superb explanations, as usual. One addition: with a Leica camera, if you use crop mode, the camera will still give the whole picture if you work with RAW files. So the crop mode can be used to focus attention in a smaller field, but the sensor still captures the full data. I’ve learned so much from these videos, thank you.

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    Thanks for sharing

  • @zae5159
    @zae51597 күн бұрын

    I'm only 2 months into doing Wildlife photography (largely thanks to your videos, and Morten Hilmer's!) and I'm finally getting some images I'm proud of! I had an acquaintance this week tell me that a photo I got of a California Scrub Jay "Looked so professional" and it seriously made my whole month! Your videos have been the absolute best I've found anywhere on KZread, thank you!

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    I love Morten’s content.

  • @zae5159

    @zae5159

    4 күн бұрын

    @@simon_dentremont I'm always surprised by how emotional I get watching his videos, they're really excellent. Yours and Morten's passion for what you do is infectious!

  • @JoeMaranophotography
    @JoeMaranophotography7 күн бұрын

    The best option is the one that allows you to still eat at the end of the month. Facts 😂

  • @tw9535
    @tw95357 күн бұрын

    Excellent, EXCELLENT discussion of this topic! Everything in photography (ISO, aperture, shutter speed, reach, low light) eventually narrows down to choices in compromise. The more you know, the more you take control over exactly which compromises you can live with. There is no way around making them.

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    6 күн бұрын

    Well said!

  • @paulmckenna5224
    @paulmckenna52246 күн бұрын

    Also, thanks for countering that "why not just zoom with your feet" line that people often repeat. As you illustrated so clearly, that isn't always (or often) possible!

  • @larrychicco1062
    @larrychicco10625 күн бұрын

    As someone who studied physics, its great to see a video from a photographer youtuber that doesnt break the known laws of the universe.

  • @denistessier8642
    @denistessier86427 күн бұрын

    I love Simon's style - very conversational. He has the unique ability to communicate highly technical information into something easy to understand that anyone can apply to their photography. I look forward to his videos. I always have an "A-HA!” moment!

  • @Quark.Lepton

    @Quark.Lepton

    5 күн бұрын

    So very true!

  • @simon_dentremont
    @simon_dentremont6 күн бұрын

    Beware someone pretending to be me on Telegram and offering prizes (fyi, I don’t have a Telegram account).

  • @terudxd

    @terudxd

    6 күн бұрын

    yeah he tried responding to me but it seems his comment is gone now. what a strange person.

  • @rollinswitch
    @rollinswitch7 күн бұрын

    Yes sir, just tripled my lens length and increased the sensor megapixels with impressive results. Can still do some post cropping as you say. But you are spot on with leaving a wider field of view on the initial photo. Gives much more latitude for adjustment, easier to find the subject and sometimes unseen amazing things get included. Thank you so much for all the wonderful help and inspiration, even this old hack has found some new fun and interest in this wonderfully diverse avocation.

  • @wendywilson3597
    @wendywilson35972 күн бұрын

    My husband and I just started doing bird photography, and we are newbies to photography in general. However, we’ve been watching tons of videos and going out to a local wildlife refuge for the past couple weeks. We’ve taken on the challenge of trying to capture birds in flight. Coupled with the fact that walking paths that keep you far away from the birds in question, we’ve had our work cut out for us, and we’ve certainly had plenty of failures and frustrations. But we’ve learned so much so quickly by simply getting out there and doing the best we can with what we know and then coming back and looking at the photos. However, it can be pretty discouraging not quite knowing what we’re doing. These videos give us the confidence to problem solve and to realize that we’re on the right track. I think I’ve watched at least twenty of your videos in just the past couple of weeks. Thank you so very much!

  • @NashCityRob
    @NashCityRob3 күн бұрын

    Man, Simon, you're simply the best. My teaching mentor, and I hope you see the influx of people I tell about you and ability to teach your skills, cause I tell everyone to go to your first!!! Thanks man!!! I'm a better photographer cause of you.

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    2 күн бұрын

    Wow, thank you!

  • @leezheng8161
    @leezheng81617 күн бұрын

    Totally agree! But the crop mode/APS-C mode on a full frame camera does come with one benefit, that is, helping on the autofocus. Sometimes the autofocus is struggling to find the target. By toggling to the crop mode, you narrow down the area for the camera to search for the target. Also, all the focus points become available in the frame thus helps to track on the target. But yes as far as the image quality goes, I wouldn't use it if I can. That's why I often toggle it back to full frame mode once my autofocus locked onto the target.

  • @user-em7no5jm7e
    @user-em7no5jm7e6 күн бұрын

    Thank you. I have been taking photographs for over 50 years and still find a lot of useful information from you, some concepts are at the subconscious level, but your lessons systematize it.

  • @ch_boki
    @ch_boki6 күн бұрын

    For now I'm happy with my EF 70-200 with 1.4+1.6 on R7 as ''daily driver''. Great points you mentioned Simon! As always amazing content!

  • @xmj6830
    @xmj68306 күн бұрын

    Thanks Simon, very useful review of all the options available for reaching far away subjects. I've chosen APSC sensor with a 150-600mm f5-6.3-zoom lens which was in my budget. I get great results with that combo for bird photography as a amateur enthusiast. I never purchased a teleconverter as it's not designed for zoom lens.

  • @keitharmitage7588
    @keitharmitage75882 күн бұрын

    What a brilliant video, Simon. Everything is explained simply and backed up by examples and knowledge of the subject.

  • @IntrepidExotics
    @IntrepidExotics7 күн бұрын

    Thanks Simon! I'm pushing 3 years on KZread with really basic stuff and recently started going deeper into photography/videography to improve my content and you have been a MASSIVE help as I work through this. I'm working with a canon m50 mk2 so I need every trick I can get to keep noise down! I have a sigma 150-600 c coming today and cant wait to see what I can get out of that over the 75-300 I've been using for bird photography!

  • @davegoldberg1874
    @davegoldberg18747 күн бұрын

    You brought up a good point at the end, by incorporating more of the scene into your composition you can avoid the pitfalls of over cropping. On a related note, I think a very common mistake is to crop too far in, then over rely on noise reduction to “save” the shot and then compensate for the loss in detail by over sharpening. The result is a plastic and synthetic appearance. Sometimes it’s better to just embrace the limitations of reach and shoot for the scene.

  • @terudxd
    @terudxd7 күн бұрын

    Simon you've helped me so much when it comes to wildlife photography. Watched your channel for a full 2 months while debating on upgrading from my 2011 Mega Zoom Camera and enjoyed every video I've watched. I finally got a Canon RF 100-400 on a Canon EOS R50, which makes it about 160-600mm. I'm still finding myself out taking photos and then one of your tips helped me get a better photo. Seriously, thank you so much Simon.

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    Wonderful

  • @rogermaioli
    @rogermaioli7 күн бұрын

    Another advantage of the cropping mode, for those of us who have a new high-resolution camera but have not yet upgraded our computers, is processing time. You may be able to import and process your photos three times faster than by using the whole sensor. There are contexts in which I think this is a viable option, especially if you are photographing static targets or are already used to a crop sensor prior to moving to full frame.

  • @benhines23
    @benhines237 күн бұрын

    Another fantastic informative video Simon. One caveat I would add regarding your cameras crop mode is to save this for when shooting video, you get further reach and maintain the full resolution for video.

  • @halir4408
    @halir44086 күн бұрын

    Thank you Simon for yet again helping me understand technical aspects of digital photography that I always find confusing and overwhelming. You are a gifted teacher and we are lucky to have you 😊🙏

  • @brendanmaher8267
    @brendanmaher82677 күн бұрын

    I’m beginning to embrace not having the luxury of getting super smooth backgrounds. I’ve learned to really highlight my subject in their environment and I’ve found these photos to be more exciting than all of the eastern phoebe perched on a branch with blurred background photos you see. I’m going for some big bull moose shots in Massachusetts this fall and I think instead of following them around in the woods, I’ll find the scene I want them in around their habitat and just wait. Thanks again, your videos have transformed my photography.

  • @JulietHotel580
    @JulietHotel5807 күн бұрын

    Great video! Awesome to see the Svalbard polar bear in the intro now :) That blurry cedar waxwing zooming in during the teleconverter bit made me crack up!

  • @marckristensen946
    @marckristensen9466 күн бұрын

    This is nice to know and need to know. Especially when you print some of your photos like I do. Keep making videos and giving great advice, Simon. One can never get to many great advices 👍

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    6 күн бұрын

    More to come!

  • @matteoraeymaekers6976
    @matteoraeymaekers69767 күн бұрын

    I love these video's, i have bought an camera 2 weeks ago, and I already know a lot because of you.Thank you.

  • @BillFerris
    @BillFerris6 күн бұрын

    While adding a TC does reduce exposure, there won't be a noise penalty paid in comparison with a photo made with the bare lens and cropped to match the angle of view of the uncropped photo made with the lens & TC. Both photos will be made with the same total light and have the same noise visibility. Of course, your comments about the optical quality of the lens and its ability to pair well with a TC without compromising on image sharpness & detail is spot on and an important consideration to keep in mind.

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    5 күн бұрын

    I agree here. I actually recorded something about this but cut it as the video was getting long.

  • @BillFerris

    @BillFerris

    5 күн бұрын

    @@simon_dentremont you are an outstanding photographer and educator, Simon. If you covered every relevant detail in depth in your videos, you'd be producing feature length films :)

  • @RogerC
    @RogerC7 күн бұрын

    Learned many new things in this video especially the pixel density! Thanks for another educational video, Simon! I hope you can make a dedicated one for the crop sensor vs full frame for wildlife.

  • @Songbird514
    @Songbird5147 күн бұрын

    I took your course, it was outstanding! I found it very informative and enjoyable to watch. Thanks Simon!

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    Awesome, thank you!

  • @Fodan10
    @Fodan107 күн бұрын

    What a great surprise to wake up to!

  • @nandanagnihotri1131
    @nandanagnihotri11316 күн бұрын

    Hi Simon,Thank you for the detailed video. I must say, it's probably the best one I've seen on this topic. You explained everything so simply. Thanks again!

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    6 күн бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @amsivertson
    @amsivertson2 күн бұрын

    Love the “Big Bang Theory” style video title 😄

  • @clarehennessey3653
    @clarehennessey36537 күн бұрын

    Excellent explanation of a somewhat bewildering subject, thank you Simon.

  • @tomaszhradcanari3992
    @tomaszhradcanari39926 күн бұрын

    Hello, Mr. Simon! I am aware of the technical, meteorological and all other limitations of photography, so I would like to remind you of one more factor for a good photograph. It is mathematically indefinable, difficult to grasp with reason. It is the mood of the person taking the picture, his state of mind. I have noticed that when I go to the streets of my city (Czech Prague) to take pictures, there is a dependence between whether I bring home nice pictures or not, and my expectation, my mood. A mind relaxed and full of good expectations is endowed with the ability to see compositionally interesting scenes more easily or not at all. That's why I recommend watching your video before going out into the field, it only puts one in a good mood. :-) Hail and strength, Mr. Simon! Tomáš from Prague

  • @paulmckenna5224
    @paulmckenna52246 күн бұрын

    Thank you Simon for re-editing that music intro....The old version was driving me nuts! LOL! And, as always, great tips on your channel!

  • @bosamuelsson5814
    @bosamuelsson58142 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the lesson! Well, I use micro four camera. When I crop an image for ex. 50%. I use lightroom, under the heading photo/enhance. The program adds pixels and reduces noise. The result, if the image is properly exposed, print at 1000 * 700 mm with excellent results.

  • @carportsnewcastle3603
    @carportsnewcastle36034 күн бұрын

    Your videos have helped me understand complex topics. Keep educating the world!

  • @scke3717
    @scke37177 күн бұрын

    Another informative, short and to the point video. Its obvious you have planned the content and presentation with the wisdom of a teacher, not just the eye of a photographer.

  • @RunTowardsDanger
    @RunTowardsDanger7 күн бұрын

    I don't understand why so many people think a crop somehow makes the focal length increased like it's a magic zoom. Thank you for finally telling people it's not.

  • @ElMundoDuro

    @ElMundoDuro

    6 күн бұрын

    Crop sensors are not a magic zoom, but they do put lots of pixels where it counts. When I put my 600mm EF lens on a MFT camera I get better images at the long end, than when I put the same 600mm lens on my 61MP Sony A7RIV and crop to the same size. So when I want the maximum reach, I use my MFT camera.

  • @ruiliu4157

    @ruiliu4157

    5 күн бұрын

    Because it is a "magic zoom". Like 35mm lenses are "magic zoom" to a medium frame. The only meaningful argument is "non-crop" has shallower depth of field, which has its own pros and cons depending on what kind of imagery you want.

  • @richrollin4867

    @richrollin4867

    2 күн бұрын

    Although cropping does reduce the DOF - Simon was wrong when he said that it doesn’t. Not as effectively as optical magnification does, though.

  • @Digital_Photog1995
    @Digital_Photog19957 күн бұрын

    Thank you for explaining these options!

  • @BurhanMuntasser
    @BurhanMuntasser7 күн бұрын

    Excellent!!! Most useful information, especially what you said about M4/3 and APS-C/DX sensors and the disadvantage of using crop mode in camera. You covered it all in crisp and clear language without overdoing it. Thank you for sharing.

  • @jcaff6963
    @jcaff69637 күн бұрын

    Thorough review of a complex subject. Thanks for this (I have used in camera crop mode, but am rethinking that now).

  • @billkennon319
    @billkennon3197 күн бұрын

    Definitely I agree 100%. I am always striving to learn more. This is very thoughtfully presented. Indeed, the "crop" mode works well on some cameras with older slower processors for sports, but I haven't found any other use!

  • @RG-rm9jt
    @RG-rm9jt7 күн бұрын

    Wonderful! Yes, I almost always want the ability to add more reach. Even with a 200-600. I'm bit jealous when I see the gorgeous images you can get with that big prime. I look at mine and am happy, but not blown away. The zoom is just different, especially if I crop.

  • @StephenBridgett
    @StephenBridgett7 күн бұрын

    Just excellent Simon!

  • @MrBetabit
    @MrBetabit7 күн бұрын

    thank you Simon

  • @anupmukerji2222
    @anupmukerji22226 күн бұрын

    Simon, while you’re the expert, I disagree with your final point about using the 1.6 crop factor in the camera for bird photography. Using the camera’s crop mode helps to focus faster and better on birds because they are larger in size in the image through the viewfinder. I find the results sharper than using full frame and then cropping. It also helps faster opening and viewing images on my laptop. I use a Canon R5 with Canon RF 100-500. The rest of your video, like all your others, was informative and useful. Thanks

  • @scottevers8425
    @scottevers84257 күн бұрын

    Fantastic advice as always. Thank You.

  • @randallcotten5069
    @randallcotten50696 күн бұрын

    Brilliant! This is what I wanted to know, but didn't know before I watched your video. Thank you for making this informative comparison.

  • @paulthew2
    @paulthew25 күн бұрын

    Excellent, Simon. Really like your work.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto4 күн бұрын

    Great video, Simon. I would only add that the smaller DOF lent by telephoto lenses is from the greater distance from subject to lens and from subject to background. Interestingly, I just watched Brent Hall's video in which he advocated occasional use of crop mode. He points out that AF works better on tiny or faraway birds in crop mode. It's a good debate.

  • @magnusjonsson1316
    @magnusjonsson13162 күн бұрын

    Great video as always. There is one more way to go, and it is the cheapest way, it cost zero money,and it is also the best way. That is to learn how to get closer to the wildlife. This is the art of fieldcraft and often overlooked. Think of it this way. Let`s say you have hundred yards to your subject that is medium size bird, to get a decent picture from this distance you need at least a 500mm prime lens. If you can get within fifty yards of the bird you get away easily with a 300mm lens. Another benefit is that it is fun to learn true fieldcraft and the behavior of wildlife. And it is free of charge

  • @cguerrieri4866
    @cguerrieri48667 күн бұрын

    Great explanation. R5, 500 f4, and tc. My perfect setup.

  • @TheAjbarron
    @TheAjbarron7 күн бұрын

    Once more an excellent presentation.

  • @JeffGiasson
    @JeffGiasson6 күн бұрын

    Thank you. Your videos have been a big help as i get back into photography. Really appreciate it

  • @garygalarrita2272
    @garygalarrita22722 күн бұрын

    Very good, Simon, as always.

  • @mariposa.2507
    @mariposa.25077 күн бұрын

    This is another great video! Thank you, Simon! 😃

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    My pleasure!

  • @127TROOP
    @127TROOP5 күн бұрын

    Once again, incredibly informative tutorial….best explanation of this particular subject I have seen so far…..

  • @photographilife
    @photographilife5 күн бұрын

    Thanks for wonderfully explaining the differences! Saved me lots of headache from choosing different options. The bonus tip regarding the 1.6 crop was especially useful!

  • @katyeah1213
    @katyeah12135 күн бұрын

    Always a joy to see a new video from you! You helped me leveling up my photography so much. Thank you! ❤

  • @eugenebrooking321
    @eugenebrooking3216 күн бұрын

    As always great video

  • @DeanJohnson67
    @DeanJohnson677 күн бұрын

    as a Z9 user Crop Mode is helpful on distant moving objects because AF tracks/focuses better so in SOME cases I prefer in focus w/noise rather than not crisp focus ...to be clear this is always a last resort on the Nikon side for me so its not often used. One day maybe Nikon will catch up to where sony/canon have beem for years in this regard

  • @JoeHTX
    @JoeHTX7 күн бұрын

    Thank you for explaining about putting the camera in "crop mode". I have been trying to tell people the exact same thing for years and very few people ever see the light. Even on Nikon's and Canon's websites I've read where they tout the "put it in crop more for more reach" farce. And I've seen many large youtube "influencer" channels claiming that they can put their camera in crop mode and "get that extra reach"...

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    Glad it was helpful!

  • @russellthorstrom6084
    @russellthorstrom60847 күн бұрын

    Thanks Simon for your insight on this topic!

  • @phil5743
    @phil57435 күн бұрын

    The crop mode in my 60mp Leica Q3 works perfectly by showing crop lines in the viewfinder rather than zooming in, and applying this to the RAW file when previewed in Lightroom whilst preserving the full image if needed.

  • @dog9970
    @dog99707 күн бұрын

    Nothing beats expensive glass, been saying it for years. Buy once cry once. Video couldn't have been timed better, I'm in the market to retire the 7D and buy a mirrorless. R5 vs R6 now I need to decide, rely on the quality of the long lenses I have now and save a bit of money with the R6 MarkII or take the hit on the R5. Great Video!

  • @DunrobinOntario
    @DunrobinOntario7 күн бұрын

    The 𝛼7r5 does pretty good with having the aps-c crop button programmed as a quick custom button! Paired with 200-600, I rarely find myself needing more when I can jump to 900 mm and still be 20+mp The advantage of using at all vs cropping in post is when you're on a subject reconciliation focus like "insect detection" following a bumblebee... if the bee is tiny in the frame, it doesn't work perfectly🤷‍♂️

  • @BillFerris
    @BillFerris6 күн бұрын

    Thank you, Simon, for another excellent educational video. The information and tips shared in the last half of the video when you're comparing pros & cons of the various options for filling the frame are especially good. In the demonstration at about 3:00 of the two photos made with the same exposure, while the uncropped photos were made with the same total light, the photo made at 200mm captured much more light from the cute owl doll. At 200mm f/2.8, the legs was working with a 71mm entrance pupil. The lens worked with a much smaller 18mm entrance pupil when making the photo at 50mm f/2.8. The 71mm entrance pupil is 4x the diameter of an 18mm entrance pupil. That translates to capturing 16x as much light - 4 stops - from the owl toy. The additional light from the owl combined with the owl covering many more pixels is why the photo made at 200mm f/2.8 is so much cleaner and more detailed than the photo made at 50mm f/2.8.

  • @CapricornGirl9
    @CapricornGirl93 күн бұрын

    I rarely use the crop mode when using my teleconverter on my 70-200, the only time it gets used is when shooting the moon or sun. Thanks for the great video.

  • @bartjes2509
    @bartjes25096 күн бұрын

    Thanks for sharing Simon. I used option 2: switched from 26 megapixel Canon 6D Mk II to 61 megapixel Sony A7R4. One thing to mention is I only have 2 modes: 61 megapixel full resolution of 26 megapixel 1.5x crop (which I don't use). If you plan higher megapixels, you also need more SD cards capacity to store the 120 MB RAW files, extra backup HDDs and a fast PC with loads of RAM too for post processing. This significangtly adds to the total cost of having more megapixels.

  • @hazard3020

    @hazard3020

    5 күн бұрын

    ...that's actually quite interesting thanks because - don't shoot the messenger - that Sony sensor, used in other kit, offers 61mp, 31mp and 16mp options 😀

  • @nick_cooper
    @nick_cooper7 күн бұрын

    Good points here, as a hobby wildlife photographer with mid range gear, I'll often reach for the Teleconverter if it is bright weather, as the outcome is usually better than heavily cropping 20MP. That being said, if the cloud is heavy or it is dawn or dusk, the 200-600 is better off without a teleconverter due to the loss of light. One point on the crop mode, I find it a very useful tool for checking focus

  • @PhotographerofCalgary
    @PhotographerofCalgary7 күн бұрын

    Thanks. Video worth saving. One from the collections of my best video regarding photography

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    7 күн бұрын

    Great to hear!

  • @paulhopkins1905
    @paulhopkins19055 күн бұрын

    Simon, as a beginner, your information is invalueable. You explain photography in such an easy way to understand. I really appreciate your channel

  • @0SASHIM1
    @0SASHIM17 күн бұрын

    Great video. Also keep in mind that with teleconverters, some lenses and body pairs won't have AF capability for DSLRs. Before getting teleconverters remember to double check the f8 autofocus points on your body (again DSLR only). Mirrorless has different focus features so that makes life much better

  • @guymatson7731
    @guymatson77312 күн бұрын

    Great video as usual. Thanks Simon

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    2 күн бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed it

  • @MarioPalomera
    @MarioPalomera6 күн бұрын

    Great content as always! I would just add that usually (or most) high res cameras are slower in terms of fps and focusing where apsc models at more accesible prices will be usually faster (fps)

  • @johnniewelbornjr.8940
    @johnniewelbornjr.89404 күн бұрын

    I was curious to see your explanation about these various options and you nailed the explanation so very well. I've played with the "digital teleconverter" (crop mode) in my Olympus E-M1X just out of curiosity but, to be honest, I really don't even know why that feature was included, for it's more a gimmick for most, in my opinion. Just as you mention in your pinned comment, it's nothing more than a crop and one cannot create pixels that simply aren't there. Your explanation (and ranking) are spot on (as is the never-ending learning... Tis so very true...). I am still using an Olympus f5-6.3 100-400mm lens that does well but is still slower than I'd often like. I certainly wouldn't want to try even the 1.4 teleconverter, much less the 2.0. I will, instead, obtain their 300mm f4 prime and simply do it right (and I won't feel bad about adding a tc in this case). At least this has been a good introduction to shooting birds and wildlife, including experimenting with tracking dragonflies in flight (modern processors are amazing), for I've been far more accustomed to landscapes. As much as I'd like to invest in a larger sensor (noise is something I am always aware of, even though it is FAR better than the old days by far), there are still a number of advantages with MFT that appeal to me (it's all subjective appeal in the end anyway) that keep me focused on my system/gear. As always, thanks for sharing excellent information and explanations, for I often glean extra knowledge (one can never have enough!).

  • @user-hp8zm7du5e
    @user-hp8zm7du5e3 күн бұрын

    I’m really love a crop mode and it’s really helpful!

  • @amirrarastehpour5393
    @amirrarastehpour53937 күн бұрын

    Thank you so much for busting a whole bunch of myths. I appreciate your fine effort.

  • @julmaass
    @julmaass7 күн бұрын

    Shoot in 4K in crop mode @30p (1/2000) :) then select the frame/ moment in time you want . It’s like cropping in post but ur cropping… time itself ! Woooooo

  • @narendramorum9056
    @narendramorum9056Күн бұрын

    Thank you so much for this. I had specifically requested for one on this topic and cover how crop mode on a full sensor camera works. Thanks again for delivering on your promise.

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    Күн бұрын

    You're very welcome!

  • @arildthingvoll5967
    @arildthingvoll59677 күн бұрын

    Amazing video! A professional educator!

  • @dominickeen6091
    @dominickeen60916 күн бұрын

    Thank you for clearing this up 🎉

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    6 күн бұрын

    Any time!

  • @Deu5Terre
    @Deu5Terre7 сағат бұрын

    Magnificent!

  • @bernardjohnwright
    @bernardjohnwright3 күн бұрын

    As always great video.

  • @alanplatt888
    @alanplatt8886 күн бұрын

    Very informative, understandable explanations, very nicely done, thank you.

  • @simon_dentremont

    @simon_dentremont

    6 күн бұрын

    You are welcome!