The worst retcon is Qaaman not living in Antarctica.

@juansanchez209

8 ай бұрын

Lmao, wow, now THAT is a reference I haven’t heard about in like 7 or 8 years! Us oldhead fans of Qaaman know what’s up lol

@LordZula

8 ай бұрын

@@juansanchez209 Facts lol I remember when I actually believed him.

@JohnnyX225

8 ай бұрын

Your Wild for that!🤣🤣

@Hulavuta

8 ай бұрын

wow that is such a throwback. unlocked some memories haha

@joezar33

8 ай бұрын

There go the Mandela Effect 7:20 wasn't that a Chicken Leg he was eating ? Not a corn on cob ?

I like to think that Yajirobe survived because 18 didn’t put enough power into the blast because she thought he was a normal human so their was no need to put as much effort into it like she did with the Z fighters. Similar to how Cell knocked Mr. Satan out of the ring, an attack that would’ve killed most people and yet he survived.

@JoshTalks11

8 ай бұрын

I agree. My headcanon for how Yajirobe survived is Korin and Yajirobe went down to Earth to help the Z fighters because the situation gets desperate, and they need senzu beans. Yajirobe manages to stay alive, but because he assumes everyone is dead, he learns ki control to stay alive out of desperation.

@BrianAwesome

8 ай бұрын

​​@@JoshTalks11 or Trunks just assumed that Yajirobe had died.

@ferane287

8 ай бұрын

This would be a nice theory if 18 didn't have infinite energy, there's no reason to not go full power but then again, knowing 18 she would hold back on weaker beings.

@JimBimBum

8 ай бұрын

@@ferane287 i mean her not going all out to kill future gohan kind of proves they don't care or even acknowledge their infinite energy.

@knightsurda

8 ай бұрын

Except Mr. Satan has maxed out his Luck stat, think about it. He is the only Human on earth who hasn't been killed on screen, in a way that would make it very obvious he died and excluding the whole planets erasure by Beerus/Frieza. He tanked hits from Cell and was not only Spared by Super Buu he was also able to dodge Kid Buu AND tank a single hit. Yajirobe has similar Luck always seeming to dodge/tank hits that should have killed but managed not to, while also being able to be the pivotal change in a fight.

luckily for yajirobe, they missed all his vital organs.

@TwilightRogue15

8 ай бұрын

All of them?!?

@alexpresso243

8 ай бұрын

i swear they hit his glubock

@LittleSansLittletale

Ай бұрын

*ALL OF THEM?!*

@tyrantcomics9387

9 күн бұрын

@@LittleSansLittletale He only needs his nuts.

I still think the worst retcons is getting rid of the saiyan tails and changing bardock's story and goku's origin to resemble superman. These 2 retcons along with some others have kinda turned me off from dragonball over the years. I cant stand when writers establish something in their lore then turn around and take a dump on it.

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

What removing of tails?

@MicroWave233

8 ай бұрын

@QaamansLand past the saiyan arc, tails stopped showing up in the series and I know toriyama came out with the s cells explanation but it just looks like to me lazy writing for forgetting they existed.

@SoupRongan

8 ай бұрын

@@MicroWave233 Didn't he say he did that on purpose? I'm pretty sure it was on one of the beta sketches of the ssj3 designs.

@MicroWave233

8 ай бұрын

@superdragon123 nah he said he forgot, toriyama has a history of forgetting things he introduced into his stories. He forgot launch was a character, he forgot about the tails, he forgot some other things I can't remember at the top of my head.

@SoupRongan

8 ай бұрын

​@@MicroWave233 This makes it seem pretty concrete that he didn't forget Interviewer: Did the tail get in the way of the fighting? AT: No, it’s just that I’m always thinking about how things are supposed to work, so it was a real pain to figure out how he’d put his pants on or stuff like that. That’s what always bugged me most. Is there a hole in the pants? Does he put his tail through first, then put the pants on? So that made me want to just get rid of the darn thing… which I did, in the end. (laughs) Interviewer: Is it true that Goku’s tail was a nuisance?! AT: It’s true. (laughs) Goku was originally an actual monkey in the initial sketches, after all. My editor told me, “Without a tail, he has no distinguishing traits,” so I added a tail. That tail I added was such a nuisance when I was drawing, I couldn’t stand it… so I immediately thought up an episode where his tail gets cut off. (laughs) Sources: www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/dragon-ball-super-history-book-akira-toriyama-interview/ www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/full-color-comics-freeza-arc-vol-5-akira-toriyama/ Just for a bonus this is the concept art of ssj3 that had a tail. vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dragonball/images/7/7e/SSJ3Concept.png/revision/latest?cb=20110402220121

Honestly i think its just a dumb retcon, not the worst. The guy (who is largely just....there) just happened to survive a hole in the tummy tum. Honestly the retcon or continuity error of Zamasu knowing about Beerus hanging out with mortals and not knowing about Beerus hanging about mortals all in one Arc is a worse Retcon just for that Arc in general... especially since that was the base of his motivations.

Worst retcon was Qaaman losing the title of Detective Q.

They should have at least saved Roshi, Puar, Turtle, and Oolong.

@theconnected7234

8 ай бұрын

they hung with Roshi who'd count as a Z fighter since he was the world's strongest when the red ribbon army was at its peak, so they'd get wiped out too

@lockhart1433

8 ай бұрын

Dragonball z kakarot was supervised by toriyama and includes explanations behind who survived and why. Roshi and co hid in his submarine. Trunks regularly delivered supplies to them so they wouldnt starve and visited chichi and the ox king regularly as well.

@keiishere511

8 ай бұрын

​@ThatYellowSpiderGuybecause oolong is a dragon ball character, not a dragon ball z character

@keiishere511

8 ай бұрын

@ThatYellowSpiderGuy yeah but he is introduced in dragon ball..

@keiishere511

8 ай бұрын

@ThatYellowSpiderGuy okay.. if you're born in a state and moved do you say you're from the state you moved in or the state you're born from, kinda the point I was trying to point at

Why are we pretending that filler and specials that were never part of the manga are retcons?

@PlanetZoidstar

8 ай бұрын

It's more just showing different canons which do cover what happened to Yajirobe - which the manga mostly ignores his existance in the Future Trunks timeline. The main issue is somehow Yajirobe and Korin were able to take blasts from the Androids and not die *instantly.* Somehow they clinged to life long enough for Korin to give Yajirobe the last Senzu Bean.

@AmirPrinceling

8 ай бұрын

That's what I'm wondering, filler should never be acknowledged as canon. Just because something that was shown in a filler was "retconned" doesn't mean squat.

@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache

8 ай бұрын

The thing is that it is canon to the anime continuity, and in Super they retcon what they established in the past filler episodes by explaining how Future Yajirobe survived. If the anime didn't count filler, then why did they have to go out of their way to explain why and how Future Yajirobe survived. It would have been easier to say that Future Yajirobe never battle the Future Androids, then explaining how he survived. To top it off, (as far as I remember) Future Yajirobe wasn't in the Super Manga, which means the anime writers brought back Future Yajirobe themselves. So not only do they acknowledge the filler of Future Yajirobe fighting the Future Androids, they also retcon his death and explained how he survived for an ultimately pointless reason besides that they wanted to bring him back.

@Blaze-zm7zt

8 ай бұрын

@@JustSomeMexicanwithaMustache just seems like reaching at straws, it seems like it's own scenario where he lived and had a confrontation with the androids, I don't know why Korinin was involved.

@AmirPrinceling

8 ай бұрын

@mexicandruglord Filler episodes are not canon to the Super anime. In the same way the Z movies aren't canon. They simply explained Yajirobe's survival because it would've been weird if they had just had him show up without explaining how he would've lasted as long as he did. Also because I believe it was stated somewhere that they didn't have Senzu Beans anymore in the Future, which means something had obviously happened to Korin.

Yanjorbe's wound looks more like a stomach wound than a chest wound to me. It could be possible he simply lasted long enough for the senzu bean to save his life while the androids moved on to attack other people that were more pressing than this one guy they mortally wounded.

@desmondclark3193

8 ай бұрын

Stop.

@astrobird11

8 ай бұрын

​@@desmondclark3193what?

@desmondclark3193

8 ай бұрын

@@astrobird11 stop trying to rationalize the plot holes and inconsistency. Toriyama is just a bad writer.

@Banduck

8 ай бұрын

@@desmondclark3193 The flashback showing Yajirobi dying is filler and NOT from Toriyama.

@desmondclark3193

8 ай бұрын

@@Banduck so where was he at when Trunks beat the Androids?

I hate the potara retcon. Now vegito and gogeta are the exact same character. Except that vegito loses to zamasu and gogeta has 0 L’s

@Lightpaladin720

8 ай бұрын

again, Didn't beat a main villain so useless

@dethtroy2185

8 ай бұрын

I didn't mind it, since it made more sense than buu's mystical properties being responsible for the split.

@darkskull1982

8 ай бұрын

​@ThatYellowSpiderGuyIt is a retcon, since Potara Fusion having a time limit for mortals was never brought up until years after the Buu Saga. But personally, it's not a bad retcon, because there was literally no explanation for why Vegito defused inside Buu besides a vague guess by Goku, who knows very little about how Majin Buu functions. Not even Old Kai knew why that happened.

@Anthonycheesman33

8 ай бұрын

After they separated in buu this retcon doesn’t really bother me as much .

@darkskull1982

8 ай бұрын

@ThatYellowSpiderGuy Retcon: a piece of new information that imposes a different interpretation on previously described events, typically used to facilitate a dramatic plot shift or account for an inconsistency. Nowhere in any piece of Dragon Ball media before Super ever stated or even implied that being a mortal was the reason why Vegito didn't stay fused inside Buu, and Vegito was pretty much the only reference for a mortal potara fusion until that point. Toriyama has a bad habit of forgetting things, so it wouldn't surprise me if he forgot that potara fusion is supposed to be permanent, Supreme Kai or not.

This isn’t really a retcon, it was never even stated in z what happened to yajirobe in the future to begin with.the only evidence that yajirobe potentially died was the filler episode and you could just say that the writers chose the tv special to follow instead. In that tv special we have no idea what happened to yajirobe.A much worse retcon is gokus history and tights and jacos entire existence (also beerus telling frieza to destroy planet vegeta).

@madDjakni

8 ай бұрын

you're just contradicting yourself, it is shown in the filler episode in question (like qaaman shows and talks about in the video) that Yajirobee gets blasted in the chest by 18 and we can assume that since it happens in a montage of all the Z fighters being killed he did not survive the blast. Just because it happened in a filler episode doesn't make it less canon to the anime (unless it directly contradicts something in the manga/anime later which seeing as it's never shown in the manga whether he lives or dies and the anime doesn't contradict it later either so that doesn't apply here). Now whether or not it's the worst retcon is highly debatable and subjective but it's still a retcon there's no debating that

@juansanchez209

8 ай бұрын

@@madDjakniSorry dude, but you’re wrong. You can’t contradict material that never “actually” happened because there’s nothing to contradict in the first place! Even if filler doesn’t explicitly contradict from the manga, it’s STILL not canon/it still didn’t happen, and assuming otherwise is a weird trend that fans have gotten into over the last few years. The whole “head canon” nonsense really has convinced fans that THEY get to pick and choose what happened and what didn’t happen lol

@princeboyd3795

8 ай бұрын

My main question is why do people say goku's history was retconned just because bardock said something he'd wish for. We don't even see or hear about the wish being granted so why assume the worst?

@madDjakni

8 ай бұрын

@@juansanchez209 yeah I misspoke a bit, maga can't contradict filler filler might contradict manga in which case its ignored obviously. But it's still material that happens. It's called filler because it fills in the gaps. It doesn't happen in the manga still but it happens in the anime and thus it happens and is canon to the anime until something changes that

@ssppeeaarr

8 ай бұрын

cuz dbs bardock is anothe retcon itself compared ot his epic dbz version. the dbs wish retcon takes away from goku... even tho goku only turned good cuz of a bad bump to his head. lol. dbs is full of retcons. some good. some bad. ...tho i like th vegetto retcon. lol. now he is equal to gogeta. 😁@@princeboyd3795

I always thought that Super's future Trunks was from a slightly different timeline than the future Trunks from the Android Saga. Proof: There was another Trunks, from another future timeline, who went to his past but got killed by Cell, as evidenced by a second time machine next to "our" future Trunks's that was trashed; the future Trunks we saw was probably the second one (assuming there were no other undocumented "change the past" attempts before him). Who's to say that this future Trunks never even visited that *specific* timeline, and if he did travel to the past, how can we prove it wasn't a very similar or identical timeline to the main one we were watching back then? (In fact, with the whole "Zamasu" thing and the two Zenos, how can we even prove *which* timeline is which anymore? Or that this main timeline is actually the same one we saw in the Android Saga?)

The worst retcon is bardock’s wish

@NeCoruption

8 ай бұрын

His wish combined with the massive coincidence that Goku was shipped to earth right before the planet was destroyed, and raddits also not dying on the planet just means the wish was granted then and there and the rest of Goku and raddits future was it their own hands. This wish did not effect everything after that moment

@grenadier20

8 ай бұрын

@@NeCoruption that's some nice headcanon

@souhaibdokkan5133

8 ай бұрын

​@@grenadier20it's not it literally ruined the dynamic of Vegeta and goku's first fight and a lot more

@joezar33

8 ай бұрын

7:20 no 1 here remembers him eating a Chicken Leg ? Not corn on the cob ? Freaking Mandela Effects

@NeCoruption

8 ай бұрын

@@souhaibdokkan5133 how?

Plot twist: Yajirobe kept a senzu in his mouth just in case

That saxophone will never get old from Xenoverse 2 create a character soundtrack.

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

You remember?

Worst was changing the Saiyan race to resemble more Kryptonian

Yajirobe being a drug dealer is Canon. He always got them beanz with him. 😅

The worst retcon was Dragonball minus now Goku is a Superman rip off and bardock is lame

"Yajirobe can't survive a blast from 18" can be countered with: Mr Satan survived a hit from Cell.

It was cool hanging out with you guys last night! Hopefully, I'll catch another stream soon!

2:22 He was never a Z fighter, he's the Senzu bean delivery man who occasionally helps out his clients when they're in a pinch.

Trunks straight up kills his androids but they still had bombs in their chests

@BeezydaBaseGod

8 ай бұрын

Maybe his timeline’s universe had to be destroyed because his earth wasn’t supposed to last as long as it did

not really a retcon as there wasn't anything in canon saying yajirobe dies during the androids attack(considering there were already a lot of plotholes like why didn't king kai just have the dead z fighters/goku talk to them,tell them about new namek's location or use the time chamber.) though man i felt so bad for korin. if anything the thing i hated about that arc was the other alive history of trunks special characters being forgotten like roshi/puar/oolong in the submarine with only turtle being shown as a lookout,eighter appearing only to get erased never seeing goku(would at least like a story with him meeting 17 & 18.). not doing anything with android 16 technically being in that timeline(would've liked instead of the ending we got after trunks sliced zamasu he tried to attack only for 16 to sacrifice himself to destroy him.) & especially future ox king/poor future chi-chi never knowing a version of good goku was around alongside being erased never knowing her child was dead.

Maybe they all survived the blasts from the androids but died later due to their wounds. Korin only had 1 senzu, which he gave to Yajirobe since he was the one to whom he was closest. So he is the only one who ultimately survived.

Yajirobes death was never recannoned it showed him getting blasted in his side but never actually dead yajirobe always carries a bag of sensu beans with him at all times he more likely got blasted and took a senzu Bean after they left saving himself easy explanation not a recannon. Just kinda Common Sense

I can see your perspective on this being the worst retcon and dragon ball history but I'm gone have to disagree with you In being the worst retconed in dragon ball history. Dragon ball super broly movie Is the worst retconed in dragon ball history and since the granolah arc shared similar elements of the dragon ball super broly movie they are under the same category as being bad retcons. Me personally I rather digest/ tolerate the retconed of yajirobe in the future timeline than dragon ball super broly movie and the granolah arc bad retcons any day! Dragon ball super broly movie retconed without a doubt almost made me get up out my seat in, Walk out the theater and go straight to my car and call it a day, if I would've done that I would've missed 97% of a high quality movie with only 3% bad aspects of the movie, and the 3% contains, bardock, the absence of tuffles being the pioneers of scouters, and goku and vegeta illogically being born on the same day.

Another thing I like to point out, things we’ve seen in flashbacks aren’t always canon events. The story may be true for the most part, but some details could easily be changed later along the lines. Even in history of trunks where it shows all the z fighters getting killed, the picture itself isn’t canon but the idea of it is.

One of the worst retcons was making the potara only an hour!

I'm glad we can put an end to all this canon talk. It was a buzz kill. But if "Ghost of the Past" was supposed to be Trunks's memory and he was a baby when all the Z fighters died then maybe it's fair to say Yajorobe was only believed to be dead. If we're trying to make it make sense.🤔💬

@lapplandkun9273

8 ай бұрын

@ThatYellowSpiderGuy He did. Canon doesn't exist in DB anymore mate.

Dint yamcha survive a salute through the chest

Yajirobe probably has God ki. He just doesn't use it that often. What else could he be practicing in that tower all day?

@demomanchaos

8 ай бұрын

Cue reference to DBZA and what he gets up to with Korrin.

Hey Qaaman! Do you think you could ever make a playlist of all the different DBZ game songs or OSTS that you use in your video’s? I think it would be really cool to have them to listen too. Just a suggestion, but I’m sure they’re easily findable. Thanks for always giving quality fun content over the years. Keep doing what you want brother

@brianartist8027

8 ай бұрын

Also bro, I legit woke up at 3am on Friday when the video was being made on KZread live and was like “Ight, it’s time to watch the boy cook”

Yajirobe does train with Kami in manga for the Saiyans

Have you ever gave the theory of the history of trunks, yajirobe living or not was because its told in the rough perspective of different characters? As for Yajirobe living or not because of corrin was because he was holding onto the last senzu at the time. Used it when the androids blasted him. Then went back to the tower to discover a mortally wounded corrin?

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

No...

love your content manm

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

Reason?

@thermalejaculation4523

8 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand its interesting

This same arc retconned a scene from the Buu saga where Goku tried to bribe Elder Kai with a kiss from Bulma.

The damage from Ki is usually really bad. Other than Gohan & Krilin vs Racoom, I don't think we ever see a character hold on even after serious damage from a physical attack. Especially not a hole in the chest (Piccolo, Goku, Raditz, Krillin, Goku again) wait... did krillin survive the "ride em cowboy" from freeza

@ssppeeaarr

8 ай бұрын

lol nah dende healed him from freeza attack

@nickruffin4622

8 ай бұрын

​@@ssppeeaarrbut Dende can't resurrect the dead, so Krillin did technically survive that penetration

@ssppeeaarr

8 ай бұрын

huh?? he was near unalive tho. without dende he would have expired... lol be honest with urself. 😕 but its more crazy freeza got krillin twice. poor krillin. @@nickruffin4622

Kinda weird. How did Goku go back to an "erased" timeline?

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

I meant in the end with Zamasu

@zeldapro18

8 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand Not sure what you mean. Yes, after that didn't Goku go back to the same timeline to get Zeno? If it's erased how did Goku got back?

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

@@zeldapro18 Meaning everything in the timeline was erased so Yajirobe is gone.

The thing is that, DBZ Kai is more connected to the Super Anime then the original version. Now it made sense.

Future Yajirobe may have been blown to bits by Zamasu and his atomized remains erased from existence, but I'm quite sure this isn't the last we'll be seeing him... He will return for inexplicable reasons.

Yajirobe is just built different

If you think about it you could make it make sense. It was established early during the Android arc that Trunks altered and potentially fractured the timeline when he initially went back to warn the Z-Fighters about said androids. This is showcased by the appearance of Androids 19 & 20 and Cell since neither 19 & 20 weren't in his time and Cell himself said he was from an alternate timeline where he killed Trunks and took the time machine. Also the existance of Mai in the Zamasu future when she wasn't there before. Who's to say the future that Zamasu attacks is the same timeline as the one previous Future Trunks came from? Maybe Yajirobe and Korrin were forced out of the Lookout during the attack. Or, taking a page from DBZA: maybe they were on their honeymoon when the androids attacked

This could be explained because that flashback is from what Trunks assumed happened, he never saw him die cause I doubt he would have survived if he was at every single one of there deaths. All he knew is that all Z-Fighters were targeted and must have heard stories from Bulma and Yajirobe was mentioned as being there from time to time. And since he never met Yajirobe, just heard of, he wouldn't recognize him

Makes even less sense when you consider the scarcity of senzu beans in history of trunks

5:15 YES! I hope this isn't coming off the wrong way but I REALLY want to keep seeing Vegeta funny face in videos! This made my day

That thumbnail lmao

And people still asking why I think dragon ball kai and dragon ball z are two different show... This

Nah I have to disagree. The worst retcon is the fact that Master Roshi is equally as powerful as Super Saiyan god Goku. They were matching fists and Goku had to imply that Roshi was holding back his true strength the entire time. Bro, if that was true, where the fuck was Roshi during the Cell and Buu arc? And also how did 17 get as powerful as SSJ Blue Goku? He didn't train. I don't remember the explanation if there was one. Even if there is one, it's still stupid. That's like saying Chiaotzu is stronger than Super Cell during the Majin Buu time skip. That's like saying Yamcha was holding back the entire time is as strong as Goku Black but never trained but played Baseball. If you ever look up the definition of R-tarded in the Webster Dictionary - it reads the idea created to make Master Roshi and 17 equal or slightly stronger than Goku in Super. It's honestly the reason why I stopped watching Super for a long time during the beginning of Tournament of Power arc. I just can not fathom.

I look at it as Trunks was telling the story of what was told to him so it's possible Trunks could've gotten the wrong info.

I think what could be likely is that Yajirobe, despite being a coward wouldn't be the type to necessarily back down when push comes to shove. He probably tried to pull a sneak attack on the Androids and was quickly taken out, but was close enough to Korin's tower to be given a sensu, but he was killed in the process due to his own injuries.

i think what you missed is their is more then just two timelines because Trunks created one new timeline when he went to the past then cell created another timeline when he went to the past so their is at least 3 timelines in the android/ cell sagas so these supposed retcons could just be the differences in the deferent timelines

So happy I also got to watch this live when I woke up really early in the morning💀

There are two Yajirobes as seen on the manga spines. One died the other lived.

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

Huh? What spines are you talking about?

@alphamarigi

8 ай бұрын

​@@QaamansLand the spines on the manga volumes have art of the characters running. I think they were the "Tankobon" releases. Yajirobe is seen running alongside both Piccolo then later Dende.

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

What timeline are you talking about?

@alphamarigi

8 ай бұрын

@QaamansLand the manga I guess?

@pkj2148

8 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand For the Tankobons, there is a drawing on the spines of each volume. When you link the spines of all the volumes together, they form a scene, and Yajirobe appears twice. Toriyama probably forgot he had already drawn him.

The staff probably forgot

We're talking about a TV special and a filler episode and even if Yajirobe got shot everyone dies different. He was shot in the stomach not the chest and if Yamcha can take a senzu bean for the same thing then I don't see what's the problem and that BTW was Canon Yamcha getting a hand thru him. Strength is not willpower when it comes to death/survival and much like Qaaman they didn't believe he was a threat so they just shot him and didn't finish him off which is the same thing they did with Future Timeline people who aren't worth a challenge. Gohan only dies cause he keeps fighting and getting closer so they decided to disintegrate him unlike everyone else who just was target practice. Also I'm sure multiple deaths before this point would've pushed him to train or Korin himself would've made him. Finally Yajirobe never died before this moment so dragon balls are still an option. Dende obviously still comes to Earth and creates them at some point cause Piccolo died. Oh I can't forget the most important part, Trunks was a baby. Why would he care about this random old guy who doesn't train him to defeat the androids to even mention him. Also nobody asked they just all assumed which is why he's never brought up. So for me when he says Korin sacrifices himself and gives Yajirobe the last senzu bean I believe the bean daddy cause we know that senzu works no matter what so long as you can swallow it. You may be missing a limb but full power is restored and everything else is healed immediately and faster than Dende healing. Please don't quote non Canon other timeline of another timeline TV specials that has a spin-off filler of that as Canon, it's so far removed anyway to really count but if it did this is how he did

What happens when you don't plan shit out.

8:25 lets just blame planet Namek and call it a day...

Poking holes in DBZ continuity would be like poking holes in you wife's loyalty

Nothing is canon. It just exist.

Nothing will piss me off as much as raditz saying the reason goku was sent to earth in the first place totally being flipped on it’s head

The worst retcon is getting rid of Maron

Unlike other "z-fighters" i don't think androids would have gone all out against Yajirobe. If someone told me that the androids would just simply shoot a hole to his chest and and left him die to his injuries and Korin "somehow" giving him the last senzu and then him laying low for a while the androids are still around i could imagine that being a "possible" explanation. but yeah, i also think they could have explained a bit better like showing in a quick cutaway how the event's went instead of just Yahirobe explaining "vaguely" what happened.

Lol all these years and I don’t think I’ve ever heard Qaaman this frustrated. 😂😂😂

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

I'm not really frustrated lol

@gillysummerss

8 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand more in terms of talking about the C word than anything else. 😂

Do we ever see the Lookout in Trunk's timeline? The Androids may have attacked the Lookout and killed Korin. Yajirobe may have fled with Korin's last Senzu bean, and the Androids playfully chased him to a city. Android 18 hits him with a weak blast- and not knowing of the Senzu bean's healing properties- leaves him for dead.

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

Did you watch the video? I explained this

could of sworn Qaaman made a video on why Yajariobe was important because of great ape Vegeta and In the Goku black arc

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

I did years ago. Why?

Just remember that there are multiple timelines in the dragon ball z anime. There is the normal timeline, where trunks does not go back in time to change the past. There is at least one timeline were trunks goes back in time to change the timeline, and goes back to his future and destroys the androids, but Trunks is then eliminated by cell, and cell uses the time machine to go back in time. Then there is the timeline we see, were cell has already gone back in time, revealing his existence to the z fighters who eliminate him before he can emerge. The breaking of cannon only happens when you don't think four dimensionally. The dragon ball super episodes add two new timelines to the already existing three from the original anime. Yajarobi, is attacked by the androids but never dies in the universe we actually see. This is the timeline where a new future Trunks also lives, and this is the future Zamasu attacks. Beerus destroys the Zamasu in the timeline we see, but creates a second timeline. That is why there are five time rings in the 9th universes time ring box. So the true cannon breach is that Yajarobi has to explain how he survived the Androids at all, and why he looks so young.

Maybe they just slightly underestimated him and left him to bleed out, and he crawled to the base of the lookout.

Hi

Looks like their game of cards isn’t going according to plan for Yajirobe 😂

Once again you did another great video ❤❤❤

Do a what if yajirobe trained

To be honest I forgot yajirobe was killed by the android when i watched the zamusu arch

I actually thought that was Bacterian in the thumbnail.

I actually like Super’s retcon. It makes him just that more of a low tier badass.

Given that every instance of Trunks going back in time he was essentially a different Trunks, I always assumed that the blue Trunks that we got was a different Trunks from the one from Cell saga since the universe he came from essentially came into existence when Goku came into contact with Zamasu even though he appeared before that event occurred. Also, also, the androids that he thought were weaker were actually not weaker than the ones we know of. And it is clear that each new universe result from time travel is clearer somewhat different from the previous.

@cool7492

8 ай бұрын

You are correct in that Future Trunks should have traveled to the point in which Goku, Goten, and Chi-Chi were dead because of Zamasu. It doesn't make sense that he appeared beforehand. However, I don't think it was meant to imply that it was a different Future Trunks. I think the writers of the anime just made a mistake. That mistake did not happen in the manga.

@cool7492

8 ай бұрын

@ThatYellowSpiderGuy That actually makes sense. I forgot the time rings allow you to pick and choose where on a timeline you can travel to.

To me the worst plot hole/ retcon is that Vegito unfuses if mortals do it instead of gods cuz it was so clear they only put that in so Goku & Vegeta could come back as easy as possible!!! & to make it worse Old Kai is fused WITH A WITCH!!!!

@JohnnyX225

8 ай бұрын

@ThatYellowSpiderGuy Super came out dn 30 years later & you really gonna sit here n tell me this isn’t a retcon when old Kai literally told them once they fuse it cannot be undone when he’s literally an example of a Kai mixing with a mortal witch? As well as being told if they were to power up into SSJ they wouldn’t in essence be able to power down??? You think toriyama was thinking 30 FKN YEARS AGO THAT HE’D TROLL US WITH DRAGON BALL SUPER JUST TO TELL US THE OLD KAI WAS WRONG THE WHOLE TIME & THE FUSION WOULD ONLY LAST AN HOUR????? YOU REALLY SIT THERE ON YO WII INTERNET EXPLORER INTERNET BROWSER TELLING ME HE PLANNED THIS ALMOST 30 FUC…….. yk what I’m not even finna do this……I should slap u for saying ion know what I’m talkin bout I obviously know what I’m talking about & I’m ashamed you don’t have the dragon balls to admit this is a retcon….. obviously buu’s magic 🪄 was the reason the fusion ran out cuz it wasn’t an hour long fight & if vegito stayed fused inside buu he woulda rescued everyone & the series ends as Goku & Vegeta as one! Please go debate some lower level dragontuber who may not be as educated as me!

The answer is simple: Multiverse Theory. Anytime Trunks traveled into the past, it created a ripple effect that changed the parameters of HIS timeline.

android 8 is also shown to be alive in the goku black arc and he died in the dragonball path to power movie.

17"hey the small guy getting way" 18 "mhh his my type he can go"

So, the worst retcon is actually not a retcon but speculation based on ambiguous statements? What?

I’d say what they did to Bardock. But anyway this just shows that the writers and Toriyama doesn’t respect the fans.

We never found out how Future Chi Chi died

thought this was going to be about gokus kissing issue

thank goodnes I wasn't the only one that saw this stupid retcon I literally mentioned this years ago that in episode 164 or 165 he's shown to have been killed by 18 which is why I was soo mad at Super cause the showrunners didn't even bother watching DRAGON BALL Z ARE YOU KIDDING ME???

@Blaze-zm7zt

4 ай бұрын

dragon ball z's anime is not the canon for dragon ball the franchise.

@freezasama5802

4 ай бұрын

@@Blaze-zm7zt but it should be canon with itself if the anime contradicts it's own canon then it's plain stupid

@Blaze-zm7zt

4 ай бұрын

@@freezasama5802 the anime contradicting the manga is stupid, however super doesn't have to care about z's anime, just the manga for ball/z because that's what's canon.

@freezasama5802

4 ай бұрын

@@Blaze-zm7zt well anyone would know yajirobe died anyways do my point still stands

@Blaze-zm7zt

4 ай бұрын

@@freezasama5802 why would anyone know that it's never shown or stated and it's up in the air as to whether or not he's considered a z fighter. also that sentence doesn't really make sense.

Qaaman heres question / video idea for you. {question} -> what is the worst dragon ball super ack in your opion? "video idea" -> if you had creative power, what would you have done differently if given creative control in the dragon ball super future trunks saga.

Yeah thing is I need to go and re-watch ghost of tomorrow I thought that was the flashback from cells point of view

And the funny thing is, Yajirobi was actually stronger than Chiaotzu in the saiyan saga. He may of even been comparable to Raditz or a Freeza soldier by the time of the Buu saga. So he wasn't weak by any means.

@ssppeeaarr

8 ай бұрын

lol man thats pure hype and speculation he got stronger as the saga went on... as robi is never shown training or taking anything serious. ever. he just chilled at korins tower all day and night.

I say the worse retcon is when goku said he never kissed chichi before. cuz he got grossed out when Trunk kissed Mai

Yajirobe trained with Popo/Kami, he probably can suppress his power. And if he got blasted through the chest, he could survive that for a bit, just like Kuririn did when he got horned, or Vegeta did when he got blasted.

You been on fire Qaaman💯💯💯

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

How?

@letsgobrandon1906

8 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand not only has the consistency been paying off in the algorithm because I see your videos everywhere now and I usually don't watch right away so that says alot. Also you sound more comfortable speaking now than you've ever sounded and I've been watching you since 2013. You're really in the best shape of your KZread career in my opinion.

@QaamansLand

8 ай бұрын

Thanks. Any constructive feedback to improve more?

@letsgobrandon1906

8 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand not really man I’m loving the content tbh. I’d say over like another 6 months time, feedback from us subscribers would have a little more of a fair foundation since there should be more dragon ball content by then.

nah don't worry this is all what happened in the android off button timeline. he's good in the non-button timeline. no, there's no reason for this to be true, but here we are.

In all honesty, I can't stand it when people use the word retcon now. It now comes off more as a copout to excuse lazy writing, especially when it comes to modern Dragon Ball. This is why I look at continuity the way I do, because then nothing is a retcon and has always existed in the "new" version of events, without it contradicting the original source material. But that's just me.

Wait, if the manga is based off the anime, then why does the anime’s episodes go on for so long rather than being done quicker with what’s happening, and not including everyone talking between moments in the tournament of power since if it’s coming out first they’d not need to include characters talking for half the episode then.

I thought it was related to super sayian being legendary, having a pure heart or S cells....not fucking yajirobe "retcon" which was based on a static scene of a flashback inside filler episode.

Yajirobe had senzu beans ofc he survived.

Regrettably, It’s all for the sake of Comedy, our dreaded enemy.

Yeah one of the other KZread channels I watch has a Willett Cannon thing that they do Dragon Ball however does not canon

Ya that dude ultimate survivor 😂😂😂

The thumbnail kinda looks like two Yajirobes kissing.

The worst, huh.