It cracks me up how Dragon Ball nowadays has kinda become one of those CHOOSE YOUR ADVENTURE type books lmaoo Original Story DB to DBZ DB to DBZ + Bardock special DB to DBZ + Bardock Special + Certain movies from the original 13 you can squeeze in & make them fit the story DB to DBZ + Bardock special + Certian DBZ movies + Dragonball GT DB to DBZ to Super DB to DBZ to Super (But actively ignoring the bad parts) Etc Etc etc. hahahaha

@doodguytheblank2403

9 ай бұрын

Not even mentioning which dubs and soundtracks

@RosencrantzxGuildenstern

9 ай бұрын

@@doodguytheblank2403 Talk about opening a can of worms! That means there's a canon where Goku calls Yakon Miss Portugal of '97 XD

@SpartanChief2277

9 ай бұрын

or Dragon Ball Minus, which leads up to Super and makes tarble canon in DBS broly movie, so Yo son goku happened etc

Technically the Grand Kai does exist in the manga canon, we just never see him. He gets mentioned by Piccolo when he asks Shin if he's the Grand Kai.

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

If what you are saying is true I made an error. I'll re-read that segmentn

@fordderek2429

9 ай бұрын

I thought that was only in the anime but I have not read the manga in years.

Dragon Ball fans have a greater addiction to the word "canon" than JJK fans have to the word "fraud" 💀💀

@khumokwezimashapa2245

9 ай бұрын

😂😂

@batboythecool

9 ай бұрын

💀

@aidanlyons25

9 ай бұрын

I mean JJK is hella recent compared to DB so this is child's play.

@okuigokublack

9 ай бұрын

@@aidanlyons25 Give it time, it'll grow like Broly 💀

@ahmadkazan5473

9 ай бұрын

Jjk fans are like 20 years younger and they are already as equally gullible and power scale addicted.

Fun fact: Grand Kai is mentioned by name in the original manga

The fact that there’s so many iterations of the story I know that people still debate on what’s supposed to be the true source/continuations just goes to show that using the word “canon” makes any show with multiple iterations/continuations just hell to deal with

I think the problem with Super is the fact that it adds stuff but in the process contradicts past canon Potara is supposed to be PERMANENT not just 1 hour because the Vegito vs. Majin Buu fight lasted MORE than just an HOUR which contradicts the 1 hour time limit

People that care for canon: *skinny,bitchless,ugly,wears glasses,smelly,no life,weak People that understand that its a multiverse and everything is canonical and just alternate timelines and there is no canon: *Literally Gigachad

@altreon3608

2 ай бұрын

strongest canon fan vs weakest multiverse enjoyer

In short, because Toriyama wasn't taking notes for his own story and also didn't seem to look at his work again once it is completed, we have now all these different sized cannon balls all seemingly belonging to the same cannon. And as result everyone is rightfully confused about Dragon Ball in an equal manner...which means that as fellow idiots we apparently are allowed to wage war over this.

@zenoblues7787

9 ай бұрын

To be fair, the anime changes were not done by him, and both the Super anime and manga are not written by him directly, only the movies.

@digiing1992

9 ай бұрын

That's exactly my point

@zenoblues7787

9 ай бұрын

@@digiing1992 Your point is that a creator doesn't have complete control of his adaptation?

@digiing1992

9 ай бұрын

@@zenoblues7787 yes, after all you have to sign a contract with the studio to allow them to use your work but once your name is on the paper, the chance is there that it is out of your hands depending on what's written on said contract. ⬆️ that's the general stuff but from what I have seen Toriyama do with his works, he's rather nonchalant what others do with it, well, minus Dragon Ball Evolution, because that movie adaptation irked Toriyama enough to come back to Dragon Ball with making Battle of Gods.

Honestly I love this breakdown of the different dragon ball canons!!!

I would love if we got a dedicated anime or even manga about the 7 years Goku spent in the underworld. I think they could actually come up with some good material and it would have that classic "adventure" feel to it as well. Unfortunately we're getting Dragon Ball Magic instead...

This is such a unique Dragon Ball "quirk." Like, im also a Naruto fan but Naruto fans don't split the movies, the filler, the boruto anime, The boruto manga, the boruto movie, the games, the anime and manga into separate canons or at the very least they aren't as canon obsessed as Dragon ball fans are. Most of them acknowledge the Naruto manga as canon and ignore the existence of Boruto and thats as far as they go

@justinarzola4584

9 ай бұрын

Star wars and transformers/Sonic also have similar canon debates but in terms of anime Dragon Ball is special in that regard.

@genyakozlov1316

9 ай бұрын

@@justinarzola4584 Star Wars and Transformers is correct, but Sonic debates have quieted down now that everything is officially canon, except games SEGA doesn't own like Pocket Adventure and Chronicles.

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

Lol you're kidding yourself about Naruto mate. Plenty of people are begging for a Kai version of the anime DESPITE many others saying the anime just muddles things. And literally most of the movies can be attributed to What-if scenarios especially the post timeskip ones. But yeah the Naruto fanbase definitely has very similar hangups.

@JoaoGabriel-gh2rg

6 ай бұрын

​@@justinarzola4584only Marvel And DC hás more canons than dragon ball kkkk

Ive been subscribed to you for years and youre still cranking out quality content. ✊🏽

Exactly what I mean about your editing style from the previous video, great job man.

I'm glad Qaaman still makes dragon ball videos. Respect for still having passion for it. Still high quality videos.

For the vegeta's brother situation it could be he didnt know his brother survived at first. You can also make sense of it by saying he found in the afterlife when he found out about ssj3 goku. It could be as easy as asking the check in station.

@justinarzola4584

9 ай бұрын

Though it's werid tarble was never in contact with vegeta or showed up during Z so i guess he thought vegeta was dead too.

@blackheart4360

9 ай бұрын

@@justinarzola4584 tarble not contacting vegeta after his whole race was destroyed by that universe emperor. Who knew the god of destruction. Not only that. Information probably took awhile. Also tarble is small and saiyan are warrior race. Vegeta not mentioning tarble. Makes since to me. Tarble not much of a fighter. So he probably doesn't try to go find vegeta.

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

​@blackheart4360 that's a whole lot of cope.

So in other words there is no official Dragon Ball canon

@CarlyDayDay

9 ай бұрын

Maybe if you stop at the original manga, but that's not much fun.

Great video. Give quaman all the likes. He deserves it.

Love how you break it down too qaaman great video

You know it’s strange something like Battles of Gods goes in different “canons” . Movie, anime and manga. Like how Champa and Vados appear in the manga version unlike anime and movie.

@newhybrid101

9 ай бұрын

Different timelines,multiverse

Glad to see Qaaman back making content

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

When did I leave?

I just think that GT is the same Canon as the Anime Canon because they did show a GT preview on the Final DBZ episode, and they kinda consider some Movies? I mean, Cooler, Garlic Jr., Gohan's Great Dragon, there is some connections (but yeah, those Movies contradicts the Anime, so idk). But besides that, this is the best-made canon explanation video I've ever seen. You summarized the points well in the way that makes the most sense. I'll absolutely share this with my friends to let them know how Canon REALLY works in Dragon Ball.

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

GT is it's own universe. Nothing to do with being canon; just like all of the movies that aren't also considered "Specials".

@diogodocallofduty410

9 ай бұрын

@@willdiesel8431 While i'm not sure about the Movies, i really think that GT is the same Canon as Original DBZ Anime. It didn't contradicts anything important and actually uses some of the Fillers to create connections. Of course, it's not Canon to the Manga (and that's why Toriyama said GT is a Side-Story), nor KAI nor Super, but is Canon to the Original DBZ Anime. In fact, Takao Koyama (DBZ Anime Screenwriter) did confirm GT is the Official Sequel to Dragon Ball Z Anime. But if you know something that did confirm GT isn't Canon to Z, let me know, i'm very curious.

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

@@diogodocallofduty410 my point was that if multiple uses or excuses for canon is being used then the word loses meaning. GT is the same as the movies and it doesn't really matter THAT much if it contradicts things from the OG DBZ anime because you would have to excuse the filler that contradicts the events of the anime sometimes even dating back to adventures of Kid Goku. GT=Movies=DBZ anime.

@diogodocallofduty410

9 ай бұрын

@@willdiesel8431 What made you think that GT is the same as the Movies? I mean, the majority of the Movies didn't even have a gap to fit in the Anime Timeline. For example, on Fusion Reborn, you can see the date "Saturday, 16th" in Videl's watch, and the Tenkaichi Budokai in Majim Boo Saga begins at May 8th, and that Saga lasts like... 3 days i think? So it's impossible that Vegeta and Goku would stay dead at that Movie time period. That's the way the creators have to say that "This Movie doesn't fit in the Official Timeline, it's a altarnate story." In this case, probably Gotenks or Gohan defeated Majim Boo. But when you look at GT, you see that is follows the Anime Timeline perfectly. As i said before, they show in the Final DBZ episode that the story will continue in GT, though there is no other thing like that for any Movie. It even respect the Fillers, like Goku's fear of needles, the conception of Hell, Freeza and Cell getting along, the Tuffles backstory, etc... And if your point is just "it's not Toriyama's work" or "The Manga is the only Canon", than i assume you didn't pay attention to the video and you don't know a thing about Canon in Dragon Ball. Have a great night.

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

@@diogodocallofduty410 After many years on different messageboards and taking in the parallels of each series of stories, I came to that conclusion early on in fascination with the IP. Simply showing Android 19 as one of the enemies escaping from Hell is reminiscent of the Movies following their own lore (false SSJ transformation comes to mind immediately) that can be separate from even the anime. I'm sure I don't have to go into the specifics as to why a fully mechanical Android would not keep their body let alone be judged by Enma. By the time that episode aired on broadcast TV there were no shortage of enemies that could've taken 19's place but again GT follows the beat of a different drum from the anime. Another thing would be; the absence of a notable powerscale. Even if the jumps in power were "generous" to say the least there was some sort of loose formula in the early parts of the Z portion of the story that kept some sort of give and take balance. I find that's never really the case in GT after rewatching the series in full about 8 months back. This mirrors what many of the earlier movies did and it wouldn't make sense in an ongoing epic. I very much have my favorites when it comes to the movies and certain parts of GT are well done and executed as though it is just a continuation of Z.

Only thing I can add to this is that retcons don't automatically make something "non-canon" to something else. For example Raditz originally tells Goku that his planet exploded 3 years ago...then the date changed to 24 years (somewhere around there)...then it was revealed that it was done by Frieza. None of these changes caused a new canon to form...its within DBZ's nature to retcon itself or have inconsistant writing. Its just easier to take classifications of the narrative like "what's the series is called" or "manga/show/movie/ova/special/game ect." and ask ourselves "ok so where does this fit into the story so far?"...what's weird is that as a result we've collectively just made every seperation its own canon...and its a little suspicious to assume its all just a coinsedence. The most useful way to establish canon (from my perspective anyways) is just to establish what's an adaptation and what's a continuation. For example DB and DBZ anime are adaptations of the og manga with GT being a direct continuation of said anime series. Super would be an alternate continuation of the anime series...some people seem to insist that Super is a continuation of the original manga but I see no evidence of this personally. TL;DR Canon doesn't matter. Every DBZ related thing had an influence on future DBZ things. (For example the reason Vegito was used in the Buu saga was cause Gogeta was used in movie 12 and Toriyama didn't want to be redundant by using Gogeta again even tho he designed him first...thus showing that Toriyama doesn't just influence Toei's descisions but it works the other way around too.) What matters is the execution of each story and the artistic intention and all that. I personally view the whole canon thing as just a fun mental excersise to try and fit the whole story together in different parts...but yeah one should never take it too seriously...lol :P

@veryangryboi4128

9 ай бұрын

Radtiz never said Planet Vegeta was destroyed 3 years ago,where did you get that?

@Alienrun

9 ай бұрын

@@veryangryboi4128 He says that when he first talks to Goku and starts talking about the history of the saiyans. Its literately the second episode of the show (DBZ uncut version/japaneese version). I know I'm not misremembering it cause its a very well known retcon of the show (and I've seen a youtuber poke fun of it in a dbz parody sketch). Curious tho...have you not seen the begining of the saiyan saga in a while or what?

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

If canon doesn't matter it would've never been introduced. And I mean that across the board for all other shounen too.

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

​@Alienrun Well to my knowledge that's not the type of retcon that would call the canon status into question because it still falls under The Word of God. No matter how jarring the revelation of Goku's origin or the retcon of The Evil Demon Clan now being aliens, it's Toriyama making the changes. Now if Lapis and Lazuli weren't the changes AT was behind and didn't implement I would say that's a retcon that changes canon because that revelation didn't occur in the original material.

Great video. I suppose it's just a consequence of a franchise like Dragon Ball going on as long as it has and being as big as it is. As a fan, I'm always grateful to get more material all these years later, but ultimately, it's all more or less supplemental to me. Or even just objectively speaking. The original manga and then, for the most part, the original run of the anime are my definitive "canon" and then the movies/ Z specials are their own branch off of that. But, it does suck seeing poor writing of the characters we love and even character regression in some cases as a result of having so many hands involved in different areas of the show. Also, it makes discourse a big headache sometimes

I've been telling people that there's no such thing as one singular canon in the world of DB, and now maybe they'll get the message with this awesome breakdown! Or maybe not because this fandom is more bullheaded than a donkey.

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

Depends on when you told them and under which context? Kai isn't a separate canon from the original manga source. You can't erase that no matter how crappy the TV only broadcast get.

There should be a separate category for one shots and ovas, like for example the yamcha reincarnation which doesn't really fit into any of these 10 categories.

I thought DBGT was canon to the original Z anime, as it was even mentioned in the last episode of Z. I think it was intentionally supposed to be a direct continuation of the Z anime.

@SaintPablo_24

9 ай бұрын

it is

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

It was supposed to be a direct continuation but just like the movies it might aswell be just a different timeline. The end of Dragon Ball proper has been rebooted twice now.

Drinking game idea. Take a shot for every time Qaaman says the word Canon

Great video!

Dude your videos are soo good! I really do miss your outtros tho.

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

What outros?

@forcetaming148

9 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand it was like your 8 bit character and a red screen . That's what I remember, but I like this outtro this video.

When you mentioned videogames my mind imediately when to those "what-ifs" they would sometimes do, like in the Budokai Tenkaichi games, they're the most non-canon thing in existence but I think they were fun lol

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

All the games based on the IP it's almost expected something different would be attempted.

A side story does still means it part the story. Like a side quest. I've always considered it 50/50 with gt being canon. It just up to fan interpretation. One of the writers that has work on dragonball since the orginal dragonball anime has stated it canon. I've looked up and rabbit holed both sides of this. Got in so many debates. Every dragonball fan just gonna have their own opinion of what's dragonball canon. I believe everything is canon in it's own way.

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

If everything is canon, there would be no need to make a distinction. It's just that simple.

Nice topic

I actually blame dbz for the five years absense from seeing Buma, the guy can teleport and its been five years? I always thought that was dumb same thing with goku leaving his family as if he can't see them in years

The Super Manga, Anime, and Movies are all separate canons if I believe because Toriyama only works on the movies and gives the manga and anime artists basic plotlines where they do whatever they want with it. Toriyama didnt plan for Ultra instinct, the changes to Potara fusion, and never planned for the Vegito vs Goku black or that universe being destroyed.

Can we just accept that people should like what they like canon or not?

@MrDavicovic

9 ай бұрын

I don't think that should be an issue. I like the Bardock movie even when it's not canon.

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

That was never the issue for the most part. What is happening though (several times in this thread) is people still instinctually using canon to make a distinction. It shouldn't be a word that has meaning if EVERYTHING is gonna be accepted as valid.

Yo I forgot about the crew in the sub hideout 😂😂😂good stuff

17:40 Tarble is mentioned in Battle of Gods as well

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

What's funny is that I wrote it down but my video was already 21 minutes. I'm sure you understand that this video could have been much longer.

@kapayasiame3632

9 ай бұрын

And not in Super anime . Which is weird situation.

@mds_main

9 ай бұрын

He is mentioned in the Broly movie too.

i think the DBS Manga could've had a much better canon if the anime's adaption was put on hold. But, despite everything that has happened, the manga has gotten better. Plus, some minor adaptions were made around each arc for the anime such as the Future Arc where Bluma and Gohan failed to get the dragon balls on time. Now the only thing i may had some issues with the personal Hell and not there being one single hell world like how we saw with Goku falling into snake wave or when the villians saw the buu fight. Even if they were filler, it was still good to see what it might've looked like if it was in the manga. If the personal hell is a thing now, i would've like to have it only for major villians who deserve it the most. Anyone else would just have their souls in hell, and if they were somewhat decent beings, they could get their bodies back; but be restricted with their powers.

Speaking of #10 on your list, when are you planning on finishing buu's fury quaaman, cause I'd still watch!

Def noticed the Twilight Princess music at the end of the vid 🔥

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

At least I know you stuck around that long

Both History of Trunks and Bardock Father of Goku came out before the manga specials. So the manga specials were built off of the TV Specials

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

What are you talking about? There is no manga special for bardock

@EclipseEuclid

9 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand The Minus chapter is what I consider to be equal to the Bardock Special, since both hit the same plot points. Its just a retelling of the special, but with significant changes. I honestly prefer Z Bardock to Minus Bardock but that's just me.

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

@@EclipseEuclid I thought you were saying there was a special for the original bardock tv special.

@EclipseEuclid

9 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand oh nah man you're good

So if there’s a retcon it counts as it own canon and not a continuation of the previous canon?

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

If there is a complete contradiction that means the show is going it's own path and following it's own canon

@mdxque8393

9 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand I suppose that makes sense.

the tarble thing is written off as dbs broly kid vegeta says he doesnt know if his brother survived nor does he care and kid raditz saying the same thing about goku

16:56 In DBZBT2 there was a scene where goku fought raditz on king kais planet aswell

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

I owned the game years ago. Remind me? It's been too long

@Tomi-berry

9 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand it was in the story mode. After goku and raditz died. King kai had both of them come to train on his planet

Qaaman here *today!* 🤩

This thumbnail is so accurate! Lol!

For me in head canon [in chronological order] 1. Yo! Son Goku & Friends Returns!, Z Kai, Battle of Gods, Resurrection F to Super, [spite the contradictions, the ones you have mentioned], Broly movie, Superhero 2. Movie Special 1, DB, DBZ, Movie Special 2, Bojack Unbound, GT. [spite the issues Black Star, a second Android 17, Dende forgetting that he can heal, that Dende's Dragon Balls weren't over used, where as Kami's was...]

This is why I NEVER Get into Canon discussion with people that love to act like they know so much... Cause 7/10 times, they don't know what the hell they're talking about. I'm glad Qaaman cleared this up.

It would be interesting to see how many of the dragon ball movie could be fitted in the the anime continuity with out breaking the continuity too much

@MrDavicovic

9 ай бұрын

Probably only the Bojack movie. Even when the Garlic movie is referred to in the anime, it still does not make sense since Krillin knows Gohan before Raditz arrives.

@dinosoid2000

9 ай бұрын

Cooler and Bojack, arguably the first Broly, are the only. Maybe Wrath of the Dragon. Bojack contradicts absolutely nothing. Most of the inconsistencies in Cooler's Revenge could easily be chalked up to being "for dramatic effect". Broly could possibly be squeezed in before the Cell Games and Wrath of the Dragon could totally fit in sometime after Goku kills Kid Buu. That's really about it. Broly is kinda pushing it but it can fit with a little head canon.

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

If you've been into everything DB long enough there's been many posts regarding what movies could be shoe-horned into the anime timeline.

I remember a Budokai game where time travel was utilized since the game pre-dates dragon ball super so the supreme Kai was completely ok with the time travel happening On another note would that Cross Epoch manga that's a one piece and DBZ crossover also he it's own canon in the specials section

I actually came up with this idea on google slides about a year ago.

Nice Canon( Birthday Video )

There’s a good question about tights and jaco. what happened to tights and jaco in the future timeline. you’d think that tights and jaco would help bulma in the future timeline but for some reason they never do (aside from the obvious explanation that they didn’t exist in toriyamas mind yet)

@justinarzola4584

9 ай бұрын

Tights and Jaco are completley pointless characters that do nothing and never were even alluded to in Dragon Ball or Z so it makes me wonder why Toriyama bothered creating those two.

It's even worse for DBS, both anime and manga, because their canon story isn't even all told via the same medium. Both anime and manga force you to watch movies inbetween.

That thumbnail is funny as hell.

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

Reason?

@jdrobinson3468

9 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand I just thought it was funny super sayin God smacking super sayin 4 with his pinkie, while sipping tea lol.

aight hear me out... what if gt was actually the movie timeline this entire time and we diddnt know.

Take a drink every time he sais canon. 😈🍺💀

I like to think that Tarble was in Witness Protection for witnessing a tax-fraud scam before the saiyan extinction, and Vegeta was miscounting on purpose because he loves his lil baby bro.

I thought of it like this I just don’t think about it I just see it all as creativity in the dragon ball franchise

Considering the thumbnail, I actually thought you were going to mention db heroes since that actually happened 😅

10:27 If I'm correct, didn't DBZ Kakarot also expand upon this?

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

How? I never played the game but you guys and friends made me aware of some things

@aidanlyons25

9 ай бұрын

@QaamansLand I didn't play it as well but I do remember some of my friends telling me that they covered the Majin Buu arc in the Future Timeline. I also looked at some gameplay

@CarlyDayDay

9 ай бұрын

Yeah. You can train with Supreme Kai as Future Trunks in Kakarot. You can also train with Beerus before the events of DBZ so... that game just be doin stuff Lol It's fun tho

@CarlyDayDay

9 ай бұрын

They also used Future Trunks for the super saiyan god ritual. So, no fetal Pan this time.

Bro knew what he was doin' with that thumbnail 😂.

I forgot they did bobbles dirty that way.

maybe, dragon ball super didn't retcon the end of z, but instead it was that goku literally abandoned bulma to train his son goten, to become stronger, for 5 whole years, so yeah goku most likely did it.

at this point there is also the tfs cannon

Another's filler is former villains watching the battle between Goku and Buu

There is also Nekomajin manga canon.

DBS explained that Shin and Kabito defused via Namekian dragon balls. And since they are gods---- probably easy to get the Namekians to help.

I'm curious about DBZ Kai; because in the beginning of Kai they used footage from the Bardock special and I seen ppl trying to connect Kai with Supers continuity (presumably including DBS Broly)

@CarlyDayDay

9 ай бұрын

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Super anime follows DB Kai. Didn't Super reference the anime only scene that involved Bulma being turned into a frog? I think there are a few other references, as well.

@Keiyon95

9 ай бұрын

@@CarlyDayDay I'm hip; I don't have a problem with that. The confusion comes in with Dragon Ball Minus lore trying to tie in with the intro to Kai (at least the Bardock aspects of things)

@CarlyDayDay

9 ай бұрын

@@Keiyon95 Everything involving Bardock is messy as hell

@sydneyowusu3750

9 ай бұрын

​@@CarlyDayDayI personally Ignore everything that happened with Bardock in the dbs manga.

@CarlyDayDay

9 ай бұрын

@sydneyowusu3750 I ignore the entire dbs manga, as well as anything involving Bardock Lol Bardock does not exist in my head canon.

don’t forget the best one… Headcanon.

To me, they are both canon but different timelines. In my headcanon, GT is a timeline where beerus never wakes up.

@willdiesel8431

9 ай бұрын

No need to make the distinction of headcanon then. You defeated your own point in a singular post.

12th Dragon Ball canon. Can't leave out Dragon Ball Evolution my guy! Lmfao!

In what canon does nekomajinn land?

are the Deuterocanonicals canon?

15:53 Puddlehan is crazy💀

6:07 Kakarot game went one step closer

Damn it, Qaaaman, this video isn't canon to the DB series. Am greatly disappointed in your lack of canon continuation. 😖

Well, here goes out of the window my whole understanding of this series.

Have you seen Casual Anime Guy's explanation for why MUI and Vegito Blue aren't canon? What do you have to say to that?

to me og bardock literally being in the manga will always mean that it is cannon to the original series while super has its own separate cannon spin off and as you mentioned, super contradicts bulmas line. it just dosent line up with the og series nearly enough

@yurazah

9 ай бұрын

@ThatYellowSpiderGuy toryama said he wouldnt have writen that story but said he loved it and put a image from it into his manga legitimizing it as part of the manga cannon, when toryama included it he absolutely intended the implication that the special is cannon, and i forgot to mention the other reason minus dosent work is cause the bardock in the z manga is wearing the classic fit while the broly movie has him in the wrong outfit

Also, Gregory was in dbz in the anime btw

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

Yeah but I thought that was obvious.

Something to note is dragon ball online and dragon ball z kakarot and their praises from toriyama and that heroes and xenoverse basically stem from dragon ball online

Good that you didnt go into the Xenovrse/dragon ball online canon... cause that would be a lot to explain xD

I did make up my own dbs villian it a partly tuffle version of perfect cell.

Well Toryarama Designed Shallot From Dragon Ball Legends - So Is Shallot & Giblet Canon ? , Nah Jokes Bro , But Great Work - Great Stuff , SHALOM .

@QaaMan, Gt and the Movies, are apart of the same canon.

@sydneyowusu3750

9 ай бұрын

Not exactly some movies are "Canon" to GT but not all of them.

what about the Neko Majin canon timeline

I never understood why we couldn't just say they all took place in different universes or timelined since dragom ball has a multiverse

@CarlyDayDay

9 ай бұрын

Well, it has multiple multiverses, I guess.

In dragon Ball there is a only one canon your head canon even Goku use that against Demon King Piccolo 😁

And this is why I don’t give a shit when people say GT isn’t canon, Super has multiple canons lol.

Now why did you change the thumbnail for?

@QaamansLand

9 ай бұрын

This looks better? Or not?

@longlivetheblackmamba2-8-24

9 ай бұрын

@@QaamansLand you ain’t have to do ssj4 like that 😂😂😂

For better or worse, dragon ball's many stories and timelines are starting to resemble super hero comics.

Now the million dollar question. Which is canon, what is not?

People laughed at me for saying that Z, GT and Super should be considered their own timelines/canon but who's laughing now!? But yeah it's a lot easier to just accept that each project/installation follows it's own rules/canon.

What about the niko Majin cannon or vegeta vs one punch man. Even the original dragon ball movies must have their own cannon, too. So confusing 😅

@segaherman_twitch

9 ай бұрын

@ThatYellowSpiderGuy oh thank you. I didn't know 😅

Everything I like is canon and everything I don't like is non-canon.

@newhybrid101

9 ай бұрын

Its all canon and part of a multiverse

@gumballsreturn

8 ай бұрын

​@@newhybrid101nuh uh

Dragonball GT was awesome

What about DragonBall AF😅😅😅

@dsato2670

9 ай бұрын

AF is a Fanmade concept that isn't acknoledged by any of Dragon Ball's right owners so it's pretty much irrelevant.

Where does Neko Majin fit into all of this?

@khallous

9 ай бұрын

And where does this new Baby Loony Tunes DB show fit into the canon

The only anime/manga where the non-canon and fan made series are better than the source material. Struggling from success