The world’s largest GHOST MALL is in China

In this video, we explore the world's largest 'Ghost Mall'. This mall in Dongguan was built with good intentions but unfortunately became famous for all the wrong reasons. We explore what is left of it to see if it is thriving or barely surviving.
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Пікірлер: 149

  • @user-fp8yj4xy1g
    @user-fp8yj4xy1g22 күн бұрын

    The world needs people like you who speak out for justice. thank you my friend. Your righteous speech will be respected by everyone.

  • @monipenny408

    @monipenny408

    22 күн бұрын

    Let's not forget anti China propaganda is part of U$ GDP, in fact U$ pours >U$D500 million each year to spread hate. The mind boggles! No wonder U$ led west economies are failing, they are focused on bringing their competition down when they can't compete. smh.

  • @dmonahan6771

    @dmonahan6771

    21 күн бұрын

    Yeah because they're not puppets....right....lol

  • @davidgmaloof

    @davidgmaloof

    21 күн бұрын

    @@dmonahan6771 If they are puppets, they aren't very good at it. Based on their video, the mall is a dump.

  • @chloedillon8145
    @chloedillon814522 күн бұрын

    I love Dongguan. I was there in 2019 and fell in love❤️

  • @tofuyam7361
    @tofuyam736124 күн бұрын

    Even in the ghost malls in the states, i don't understand why they just don't turn the upper levels to cheap offices, coworking space, small makers/startup space, libraries, etc

  • @4-SeasonNature

    @4-SeasonNature

    23 күн бұрын

    Zoning laws take some time to catch up with the changing market conditions.

  • @user-hr6tb9fh8k

    @user-hr6tb9fh8k

    23 күн бұрын

    anytime

  • @LauBuk

    @LauBuk

    23 күн бұрын

    cuz there are enough things you said existing... btw coworking space is not a good business model, almost all companies failed after the pandemic including WEWORK

  • @tofuyam7361

    @tofuyam7361

    23 күн бұрын

    @@LauBuk wework failed because they picked the most expensive spaces in the most prime area. These suburb malls are not prime because they are ghost malls. Leasing them out cheap for a couple years and bringing in work traffic will overall be a benefit to the other stores

  • @maxyang7919

    @maxyang7919

    22 күн бұрын

    Because it's nowhere near accessible public transport like Nico and Jack found out.

  • @nivzfrabx3718
    @nivzfrabx371824 күн бұрын

    amazing video as always!

  • @ALIEN_857
    @ALIEN_85724 күн бұрын

    It's embarrassing that a notable news agency was proven wrong in its reports. In other words, it lacks credibility.

  • @chongdi6140

    @chongdi6140

    22 күн бұрын

    Embarassing? Nowadays western media don't even feel ashamed!

  • @davidgmaloof

    @davidgmaloof

    21 күн бұрын

    What are you saying? That the mall wasn't empty? The seems to be doing somewhat better now, but you have to admit, it's a dump.

  • @DW-op7ly

    @DW-op7ly

    20 күн бұрын

    @@davidgmaloof ​​⁠ More like sensationalist reporting on ghost cities and empty apartments But not going back to do a follow up Just like these days with the Chinese clampdown on their overheated real estate. The narrative is the country is about to collapse When the reality is 70% of the Chinese buying real estate in their cities were buying their 2nd and 3rd homes by 2018 The real issue being Property Developers were building too many higher end homes and not enough affordable homes for a few hundred million rural Chinese folks are still expected to migrate to the cities

  • @DW-op7ly

    @DW-op7ly

    20 күн бұрын

    Also as they said it was hard to get to this mall using public transit, the mall was built for higher end consumers in mind. In a city with a larger demographic of less well off migrant workers

  • @teckchuonting4582

    @teckchuonting4582

    18 күн бұрын

    @@chongdi6140embarrassment is not in their vocabulary

  • @YehWincent
    @YehWincent23 күн бұрын

    If the 1st floor has filled with shops, I don't think it's fair to call it a 'Ghost Mall'. China's urbanization is just over 60%, below 70%. For developed countries the urbanization rate is usually 85% or more. So I believe one day someone will revive this mall when nearby area gets more development due to more residents moving into this region.

  • @liamporter1137
    @liamporter113723 күн бұрын

    Great sharing.

  • @singaanom3305
    @singaanom330523 күн бұрын

    Not only in Dongguan, China, many countries are experiencing the same thing, for example in Beverly Hills, Los Angeles. The mall is quiet then becomes busy again, well that's the cycle and they will be active again, maybe with the new things.....

  • @kalarc1798
    @kalarc179824 күн бұрын

    Can’t believe you guys visited Dongguan😂 It’s that means I can dream you guys will visit my hometown 虎門 someday?

  • @maxyang7919

    @maxyang7919

    22 күн бұрын

    Jack's history corner anyone? 😂

  • @tanyi5524

    @tanyi5524

    19 күн бұрын

    Dream?😂

  • @raghavlama387
    @raghavlama38723 күн бұрын

    love the content!

  • @4-SeasonNature
    @4-SeasonNature23 күн бұрын

    Whatever happens, there's a reason. Just like any country that developed ahead of China, as China develops, markets change and businesses have to adjust to the changing demands of the customers they serve.

  • @tkh2944

    @tkh2944

    23 күн бұрын

    Business comes with risks. It's normal all over the world. You make a good decision & you fly to the moon. Make a poor decision & you get liquidated.😅 Nothing to see here, it's not specific to any particular country or people.

  • @stevenkyle9426
    @stevenkyle942621 күн бұрын

    another great video, thanks

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!

  • @GoldyTaoCZ
    @GoldyTaoCZ22 күн бұрын

    Very informative. Thanks for sharing.

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    Thanks a lot!

  • @4-SeasonNature
    @4-SeasonNature23 күн бұрын

    YouPoMian (油泼面), hand-pulled noodles topped with sizzling oil together with ground chili pepper and chopped up green onions are veey famous in northern China where wheat is grown, as opposed to southern China rice is grown.

  • @zhangshunfei
    @zhangshunfei13 күн бұрын

    Spent whole day to watch all your videos, Nico is so cute and emotional,and your husband is kind too,you both more and more like the real chinese.Showing the real life good or bad. I suddney find that I subscribe your bilibili channel before many years . your video is so good even the fans numeber is not equal to the quality of videos . I‘m living in chengdu for 10 years ,the video shows me the location that I didin't ever been to.Hope you have a good day in china,moved me a lot,It’s really unforgettable happy time.

  • @user-pl6dp9rp6v
    @user-pl6dp9rp6v23 күн бұрын

    As a Chinese, be fair we really have ghost malls, but some are successful renovate after years and reborn and some forever ending, but the media only report the ended one.

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    I agree which is why we went to see it as I heard it was getting renovated I hope there is more to come!

  • @chintham2861
    @chintham286122 күн бұрын

    Maybe they could convert some to apartments with fancy decor like having huge unusual windows and doors. Maybe convert some to studios. If the guy still has the money build a rail system to the big transportation hub.

  • @sabrinastraveladventures4263
    @sabrinastraveladventures426324 күн бұрын

    Oh dear 😅 Looking forward to the Wuhan’s noodles 🍜 🤤 Xoxo Sabrina 🇫🇷🇬🇧

  • @user-ro2ns4xg3z
    @user-ro2ns4xg3z21 күн бұрын

    FREE PALESTINE, FREE TEXAS, AMERIKA SERIKAT 🎉🎉

  • @szewhu
    @szewhu20 күн бұрын

    Totally agree with you that people should conduct some marketing research before building something huge in China. By the way, I like that bowl of belt noodles hmmm yummy!

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    Omg I'm still dreaming of these!

  • @sayaandyangsaya2756
    @sayaandyangsaya275622 күн бұрын

    Very cool

  • @sc45248
    @sc4524823 күн бұрын

    All this town needs is a miracle , keep up the hope 🙏.

  • @stefenleung
    @stefenleung23 күн бұрын

    location, location, location. China is too convenient compared to 10 years ago, and malls (esp big malls) are dieing worldwide. I think China is doing very good keeping malls alive but still some have to be gone in competition.

  • @susannayeu4471
    @susannayeu447116 сағат бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @truthful3777
    @truthful377719 күн бұрын

    Most countries do have ghost mall.. even in my country, Malaysia. Overbuilt of malls.

  • @qingshanyipian1936
    @qingshanyipian193621 күн бұрын

    Malls all over the U.S. are closing down in massive numbers. Malls are so yesterday. Actually most of the commercial buildings are either vacant as well. It’s a huge mess in the U.S. real estate market

  • @leapdrive

    @leapdrive

    20 күн бұрын

    Malls in the US are closing because people do their shopping by internet stores. Chinese people are simply impoverished. Also, people do their work at home by computers and why there are a lot of office space in the US.

  • @MrJchang27
    @MrJchang2721 күн бұрын

    China is going through some painful transmission. Again, China is huge. It may take a while to fix everything. However, it is just matter of time to solve those problems because they are CHINESE.

  • @Vinyay2130
    @Vinyay213023 күн бұрын

    Real life is full of changes and nuances. A certain side and moment may be good for a jaw dropping headline, but the complete story may not draw attention or serve the purpose. You provided a nuanced angle into things!

  • @nicksundin
    @nicksundin23 күн бұрын

    As a fellow native of north-east England, I knew the Metroland reference was coming when the theme park came on, for a certain generation here it's the greatest theme park of all time! Bring back Metroland! 😁

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    hahaha I was buzzing when I saw this theme park honestly I can't believe they ever shut it. Why even bother going to the Metro Center now?

  • @sargiedelosangeles8507
    @sargiedelosangeles850714 күн бұрын

    Interesting video it is! Maybe there is no waste if they can turn it to an office or coworking spaces, apartment blocks, or even a studio. Although this will depend on their location as well. Not familiar with Dongguan but I think every city in China has it's own strengths and specialties. Maybe they can consider it as part of their marketing plan. Thanks again for this video, Jack and Nico! ❤

  • @nicks2106
    @nicks21065 күн бұрын

    This two must be super special guests, the the authority remove everyone from the mall so they are not distracted while making the video 😅😅

  • @Leoqal
    @Leoqal22 күн бұрын

    You guys are funny - great video

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    Glad you enjoyed

  • @junlifang2896
    @junlifang289622 күн бұрын

    🎉🎉

  • @TaoYuanHuang
    @TaoYuanHuang23 күн бұрын

    MIXI tea, yeah!

  • @i.p.9318
    @i.p.931821 күн бұрын

    The noodle is great ❤

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    The noodles were AMAZING!

  • @raymondlianto9882
    @raymondlianto988223 күн бұрын

    It's a pity such a big building had to become abandoned.

  • @okokconan455
    @okokconan45523 күн бұрын

    Dude this seems like a perfect Liminal space game scenes😂

  • @johnkiel1000
    @johnkiel100023 күн бұрын

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @itsme2be
    @itsme2be18 күн бұрын

    They need to fill spaces with more entertainment and offices, work spaces

  • @vamnec
    @vamnec23 күн бұрын

    It seems I’ve been there before, watched Avatar 1 iMax movie…coz there was no iMax theater in Shenzhen at that time😂😂😂 There were lots of people from Guangzhou and Shenzhen just for their 1st iMax movie.

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    Wow! When was that? That is a long trip for an iMax movie haha

  • @vamnec

    @vamnec

    18 күн бұрын

    @@Nicofilms yes, such a long time age! There were no online movie tickets, even no smartphone, I bought tickets via cellphone.

  • @nicks2106
    @nicks21065 күн бұрын

    OMG what a busy mall they can barely walk around 😭😭

  • @theotheleo6830
    @theotheleo683023 күн бұрын

    Turn the upper floors into residences. Offer low-mid to upper-end condos.

  • @gaosuper2781

    @gaosuper2781

    22 күн бұрын

    在中国太多了公寓了,没有太大竞争力

  • @theotheleo6830

    @theotheleo6830

    22 күн бұрын

    @@gaosuper2781 But living above a mall is a unique opportunity. It would be greatly convenient for residents to take the elevator down to the street level to shop, eat, or just walk around the large grounds.

  • @christianjack1250
    @christianjack125021 күн бұрын

    Prince hotel in Dongguan is the biggest 5 star ghost hotel

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    I will have to check it out!

  • @stevesenick
    @stevesenick23 күн бұрын

    ✨It will come back strong, unlike the Billion-Dollar mall in New York City that recently had to close after only ten years because of massive crime. Fulton Center, New York's most expensive mall.....😥 By the way, you two look great. 🙂

  • @davidgmaloof

    @davidgmaloof

    21 күн бұрын

    What do you expect from New York, a city run by very soft-on-crime politicians. Fortunately, most the US is not like NYC and the malls are doing fine. I'm guessing actually arresting shoplifters has something to do with that.

  • @lagrangewei
    @lagrangewei22 күн бұрын

    if I were management, I would just convert some of the retail space to cheap offices and shared spaces. as well as target most specialty shop. this is what some of the less successful shopping center in Singapore did.

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    Yeah I think office space would be a great idea!

  • @hongqingxiang3374
    @hongqingxiang337412 күн бұрын

    😀🙏😀

  • @Crom21
    @Crom2123 күн бұрын

    it happens all the time in many countries.

  • @kiambengang3533
    @kiambengang353321 күн бұрын

    I think the mixue workers need to be evaluated... The buyer who said xie xie and the worker just 'who cares ... I'm busy". Mixue is open shop also in Indonesia where I'm living

  • @perlandazacarias1933
    @perlandazacarias193317 сағат бұрын

    Not in the Philippines I don’t know where people are coming

  • @nicky12951
    @nicky1295123 күн бұрын

    It wat just a wrong business plan. Dongguan is hub for manufacturing which used to attract a lot of non-local migrant workers. Since those low value added manufacturing are moving from China to human cost cheaper Southeast Asia. The population of Dongguan is shrinking. How could you expect to run a huge shopping mall successfully if the city's population is shrinking?

  • @Dreamer10888
    @Dreamer1088823 күн бұрын

    San Fran?????

  • @petercua6158
    @petercua615824 күн бұрын

    Feel sorry for the owner😢.

  • @magicsmurfy
    @magicsmurfy24 күн бұрын

    Why would they build a mall of this scale in Dongguan! Not enough marketing prep work!

  • @nuo.not1033

    @nuo.not1033

    23 күн бұрын

    Because you don't know the history here, it used to be the top three factory areas in China, with 10 million people working here at its peak, a large number of young people entering here, bringing more economic vitality, but also giving rise to more consumption, in addition to daily life, the pornography industry here is very developed, even more developed than Europe and the United States. This has led to violence and human trafficking, so the Chinese government has selectively shut down some factories and cracked down on the sex industry, which has led to the outflow of people here. Now, many of the facilities here have been abandoned in the absence of the population.

  • @bilibala9394
    @bilibala939422 күн бұрын

    表面上是错误的投资,实际上地价涨了十倍。

  • @user-kr7kf4ov7h
    @user-kr7kf4ov7h22 күн бұрын

    光这块地皮的市值 估计现在都不止10亿了!!

  • @davidgmaloof

    @davidgmaloof

    21 күн бұрын

    If that is so, then this mall's days are numbered.

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    😱

  • @tomsunuwar6940
    @tomsunuwar694023 күн бұрын

    ❤️‍🩹🇨🇳💐

  • @andyl3655
    @andyl365523 күн бұрын

    04:31 it's actually too big and I can't put it in my mouth, 4:45 Nico was praising how thick it was lol hahaha

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    🙃

  • @janefox527
    @janefox52718 күн бұрын

    😂我家里人说是因为公交车改线路了所以交通不太方便就冷清了很多,很多地方都是因为交通不便才逐渐没落的

  • @zhixuanchen6914

    @zhixuanchen6914

    18 күн бұрын

    不是主要原因吧?如果經濟依然蓬勃,又有什麼理由讓交通不方便呢?

  • @janefox527

    @janefox527

    18 күн бұрын

    @@zhixuanchen6914 这就要看市政怎么规划了,像我家这边老火车站没搬迁之前周边也是很热闹,很多商场之类的,现在车站搬迁了就几乎跟视频里的这个那样,几乎商店都关门了,而且因为客流量少开店的基本上都撑不了几个月就倒闭了

  • @janefox527

    @janefox527

    18 күн бұрын

    @@zhixuanchen6914 这就要看市政怎么规划了,像我家这边老火车站没搬迁之前周边也是很热闹,很多商场之类的,现在车站搬迁了就几乎跟视频里的这个那样,几乎商店都关门了,而且因为客流量少开店的基本上都撑不了几个月就倒闭了

  • @user-vp6fh8gx7z
    @user-vp6fh8gx7z24 күн бұрын

    Perhaps migrant workers don't have the financial means to fully enjoy this park.

  • @benjamink6900
    @benjamink690022 күн бұрын

    中文可以哦,可以跟服务员沟通了

  • @truthful3777
    @truthful377719 күн бұрын

    So "peang a leang" that is a Cantonese word. 😅

  • @onlineshoppingjakarta7338
    @onlineshoppingjakarta733820 күн бұрын

    Whale is a sign for rich person

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    Ooh interesting! I didn't know that.

  • @onlineshoppingjakarta7338

    @onlineshoppingjakarta7338

    19 күн бұрын

    @@Nicofilms in crypto, whale mean rich person

  • @susannayeu4471
    @susannayeu447116 сағат бұрын

    China always want to be the biggest of everything, please don't try to take this title away!

  • @AMDX1325
    @AMDX132520 күн бұрын

    Looks pretty empty to me. But malls are an outdated commercial concept anyway, they're failing globally. It would be great to see real estate like these repurposed and utilized.

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    Malls are still very popular in China but mainly for food and to hang I don't think many people shop for items in them as it is so convenient to buy online. I really hope they can do something with the space.

  • @harbinger6562
    @harbinger656223 күн бұрын

    Hi ❤️🇨🇳🦾😇🌹👋

  • @user-kr7kf4ov7h
    @user-kr7kf4ov7h22 күн бұрын

    支持你们俩!!!!!油泼面,凉皮就应该夏天吃,爽!!!!再加点醋!!!啊呀!!

  • @YuanRodger
    @YuanRodger22 күн бұрын

    相当客观

  • @leapdrive
    @leapdrive20 күн бұрын

    It sounds like this video conversation had been choreographed like Hollywood did.

  • @Rock_Cat-sx7ek
    @Rock_Cat-sx7ek24 күн бұрын

    当初的规划还是好的,不过不小心就成了烂尾,看未来有没有机会复新了

  • @308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane

    @308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane

    23 күн бұрын

    What are you talking about? It's finished, the construction was finished 20 years ago.

  • @yaohuiwang1600
    @yaohuiwang160023 күн бұрын

    最逝这几年,中国经济发展的速度可能会降下来一点

  • @theresachou7184
    @theresachou718416 күн бұрын

    你们竟然来了东莞,不知道是否在东莞试一下东莞烧鹅

  • @123vi50
    @123vi5022 күн бұрын

    Big mistake bad location bad timing bad investment no money in dongguan to support this mall.

  • @iamnotthejessieyouknow8860
    @iamnotthejessieyouknow886022 күн бұрын

    This is not the biggest shopping mall in the World

  • @iamnotthejessieyouknow8860

    @iamnotthejessieyouknow8860

    22 күн бұрын

    China does have the world biggest shopping mall but not this one

  • @user-vl5sg4wg4y

    @user-vl5sg4wg4y

    21 күн бұрын

    最大的单体建筑在成都,巨大的购物中心,吃喝玩乐俱全,非常棒❤🎉❤

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    It was at the time, which is what we say in the video. The title refers to the fact that it is the biggest 'ghost mall' meaning that it is empty.

  • @Nicofilms

    @Nicofilms

    19 күн бұрын

    Yup! We have also done a video on this.

  • @iamnotthejessieyouknow8860

    @iamnotthejessieyouknow8860

    13 күн бұрын

    @@Nicofilms Oh! Sorry for the misunderstanding! Hope you guys enjoy every moment in your journey☺️

  • @eerking4876
    @eerking487623 күн бұрын

    很多外国博主拍摄中国题材视频的角度和思路很窄的。不知道他们是为了迎合国外观众的固化思维,还是为了拿华人观众的流量。也或许他们真的就是没什么见识吧🤣,这样也挺好。其实中国有很多新奇的事物是国外没有的,很多新兴的产业、新的赛道,工业,农业,科技,服务业、军事,民生领域都有。更不用说文化方面了。看多了觉得他们真的没啥文化🤭。

  • @Mikupigeon

    @Mikupigeon

    22 күн бұрын

    有必要說国外没啥文化嗎?

  • @eerking4876

    @eerking4876

    22 күн бұрын

    @@Mikupigeon 说了又怎么样?

  • @eerking4876

    @eerking4876

    22 күн бұрын

    @@Mikupigeon 来中国的部分外国人有必要说中国的摄像头多吗?你哪儿来的那么多“有必要吗”。真这么喜欢“反思”,请别双标,别对老外宽容,对华人苛刻就好。

  • @Mikupigeon

    @Mikupigeon

    22 күн бұрын

    @@eerking4876 你左一句反思右一句雙標, 請問那個地方沒有為流量拍片的人? 中國確實是全世界最多摄像头的國家, 這是客觀事實, 也是中國特色之一。其實我沒有Sub這個頻道的, 我只是看到視頻的標題就進來看留言版可以有多精彩。我簡略看一下這個頻道的其他視頻其實算正常, 不少事物他們是贊美的, 你有沒有看他們其他視頻? 你投訴外国博主题材视频的角度和思路很窄, 一般外國人不了解中國不是正常嗎? 同樣中國人去外國也是可以對當地很多事物一知半解。不要說去遠的地方, 不少國內遊客和博主去鄰近的香港和澳門做什麼和拍什麼視頻?去小紅書上介紹的打卡點拍個照, 然後去茶餐廳吃東西, 然後去下一個小紅書打卡點,最後在網上投訴服務員沒禮貌, 物價很貴, 地方很小等等。你覺得他們拍的题材视频的角度和思路有多闊? 可以有多深? 按你的邏輯去說, 他們也是沒文化嗎?

  • @eerking4876

    @eerking4876

    22 күн бұрын

    @@Mikupigeon 正是,我觉得小红书也没什么文化,所以我不用小红书。 起因是我评论了几句,你留言说“有必要吗”。 有没有必要是我说了算,不是你说了算。这叫“言论自由”。 你可以不同意我说的内容,你也可以随便说,但不能质疑我说的必要性。这叫“民主”。 你看我不双标吧。

  • @user-un2ll5kl8v
    @user-un2ll5kl8v24 күн бұрын

    GHOST MALL....I thought that you were so brave to do an episode for "Li Wan Plaza 荔湾尸场" in Guangzhou 😱😱😱😱

  • @user-nd8bo8nj7p

    @user-nd8bo8nj7p

    23 күн бұрын

    荔湾尸场哈哈哈,著名景点

  • @lsg9264
    @lsg926422 күн бұрын

    not only malls, street shops also ghosting all over in china today! No money to spend also most doing online now. China is in serious deflation, very low consumption, unwilling to spend due to lost confidence & very bad economy condition, no jobs, no income, property crash, debt surge & bankrupt everywhere! RMB going to crash soon!

  • @VashtheStampede007

    @VashtheStampede007

    22 күн бұрын

    @ Isg9264, More propaganda please 😂

  • @lsg9264

    @lsg9264

    22 күн бұрын

    @@VashtheStampede007 no need, truth & fact are there!

  • @VashtheStampede007

    @VashtheStampede007

    22 күн бұрын

    @@lsg9264 so when was the last time you had a passport? 🙃 The propaganda machine you call mainstream media is not in the business of sharing facts. It's always pushing a narrative

  • @DJs021

    @DJs021

    22 күн бұрын

    ​@@VashtheStampede007he based his source from Peter Zeihan 😅let them live in denial, the more they do the better it's contribute to the world.

  • @jng4880

    @jng4880

    22 күн бұрын

    Another sour grape found😉

  • @hokeatseng4094
    @hokeatseng409423 күн бұрын

    🧔🧝,lovely🏞️. Tq