Great, great analysis. The water metaphor of Egwene pouring her power into another woman's cup....horrified me all over again.

@Mrsangeandbella

10 ай бұрын

Road To Tar Valon pointed out that water is used throughout both series as a metaphor for channelling, which gives even more impact to the scenes with Egwene, Renna and the pitcher. When Egwene finally pours water into Renna's cup, she is also symbolically giving Renna her ability to channel. Killed me all over again, and wow, what amazing writing and acting. @@kyneilen

I truly was moved by Ryma’s (Yellow Ajah) performance & sacrifice to save the girls. It was heartbreaking & hard to watch Egwene being tortured like that. The Seanchan are horrible, but I couldn’t take my eyes off the screen. I definitely was in the feels this episode. 🥺💔….. (Side bar) the way they use the One Power this season is amazing, some Ajah use it in the most unique ways!

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

Ryma was a standout of this episode. That ending in combo with Egwene was so much.

@nchantedone2073

10 ай бұрын

I couldn’t agree more!

This episode is BY FAR the best episode of the whole show thus far. Hopefully, the last two episodes of the season dont disappoint!

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

Hoping for a real wild finale 🙏

Absolutely fantastic episode, all the uses of the power in this episode were oh so perfect, Rhyma's use of yellow ajah learned powers to inflict damage rather than heal was incredibly done, the way she breaks bones instead or setting them, and heats the skin on the other Sul-dam's face 😵. Also my god Natasha O'keefe is just the best Lanfear I could ever imagine. Her small facial tweaks and body language give so much away of Lanfears character, what a stunning screen presence. Also shout out to Mad Madden and Zelia Mendes-Jones who were both amazing in those Sul-dam/damane scenes.

Reader who used to be obsessed with the books. For me this was brilliant, heart breaking TV. The only nit pick for me was the idea that any warder could think Lan was a darkfriend. But this episode completely worked for me.

Rewatch the scene with Loiel singing The young people in the room are fascinated and actually marveling at what is happening They are snapped back to being selfish beings when the leader realizes that the others are in awe of what is happening and like a influencer, she turns it into a laugh time which they join in out of habit Was a good scene looking at it that maybe the younger crowd are wanting of more than slaves

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

This is EXACTLY what happened.

@samsmom1491

10 ай бұрын

​@dragonrasp Have we seen Tuon yet? High Lady Suroth is in this scene. Did I miss something? I'll watch it again.

wow what you said about the cup and her power - fantastic, if that is what they and RJ intended I never even thought of that! Perfect. The acting was incredible from everyone, and so many subtle moments some would miss (like Elayne and Nyn when Ryma…) and Maigan’s comment about Egwene basically being more steadfast than a Sitter… I am still overwhelmed by it all but so grateful for more proof the writers, directors and actors get these books.

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

It was a great episode but hard to watch. Really hoping the last two are just as good! 🤞

This series deserves a full 10 episodes per season....at the very least! Amazon wasting money on that stupid LOTR prequel series 😤

@user-jm4nh4by2c

10 ай бұрын

12 episodes

@deadlyecho

10 ай бұрын

Yeah they should give them more budget than that stupid lord of the rings series, honestly, I fell in love with all of the characters

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

I'd love more. Wish they could make that happen 😭

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

@@YesHelloNoBye I'm pretty sure the showrunner wants more time. I remember him mentioning he wanted more time for season 1. Amazon tends to like the 8 episode model for whatever reason.

@pamelasheridan3717

10 ай бұрын

I feel you. I was so dissatisfied with rings of power. A real let down

I think the comparison with Rand and Nyneave not being able to refine their flows is foreshadowing. When Nyneave couldn't control her weaves and brought the Seanchan down on their safehouse it was obvious how important control was, it left me wondering what Rand's moment will be.

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

I agree totally. Not looking forward to that moment 😬

Re: Siuan's "dagger halo" - Pretty sure those are filet knives (i.e. for gutting fish) made from air. Nice touch.

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

LOVE THIS SO MUCH!!!

I did not want this episode to end!!

Ok, I'm hooked even after hating on Season 1. Get them signed for Season 3. Well done crew!!

I swear to god, WoT book readers are fucken salty 😂😂 I love the series so far ❤

@tw7998

10 ай бұрын

I am a reader, read it dozens of times and i LOVED this episode and E5

@dracul74

10 ай бұрын

I am a book series reader who is loving season 2. I think the book vs show changes impacted a lot of ppl’s opinions because the acting and direction wasn’t that good in season 1… and so ppl were over analyzing what went wrong. I didn’t hate season 1, but wow this season is great! I get why ppl are picky, but from my point of view screen adaptations are usually an inspired version. I have seen so many Dracula movies and enjoy that they are different (same for Batman, Camelot, etc…..)

@deadlyecho

10 ай бұрын

@@dracul74 100% Agree

@tw7998

10 ай бұрын

@@dracul74 yeh i agree S1 had its issues, hard to know how many were due to covid and mat actor leaving. But gosh was this good TV

@realitia

10 ай бұрын

Yes, I've been surprised by the vehemence of the folks who don't like the tv series. I've read the book series twice now, and I learned about them from seeing the first season two years ago. I love both the books and the tv adaptation. Season 2 is knocking it out of the park. As someone else here said, the end game is likely the same but the way the tv series is getting there is different; of course, as adapting a 14 book series would necessarily be. I think Amazon and the production crew, etc. have really upped their game this season.

The way Ryma helped Nyn channel was very cool, but I really wish it had been Elaine who found the nuance of the a'dam. I know Nyn solved it in the book, but since Elaine is the one who eventually has the Talent with ter'angreal, letting her solve this would be one retcon I would wholeheartedly support.

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

There's still time. Maybe by working together Elayne has a eureka moment?

@rt-mc8ip

10 ай бұрын

Elayne can replicate ter'angreal. Avienda can identify them.

@ShallowSedai

10 ай бұрын

She has aviendah's talent of reading the feeling/history of a terangreal. Elayne may still be the one with the invention knack.

siuan daggers of air weave, looks like a reference to a paralis net. almost . I hope they have a paralis in the show. especially for cadsuane. i think nynaeve will have it as well.

So far to me this episode is the highlight of the season. Excellent analogy between the water and the One Power

Great video :) Seeing the damane collared up like that makes me real sad and hope they can all be saved very soon (esp Egwene)

Season 2 is definitely stronger on many levels. I feel like the editing is sometimes choppy (e.g. when Egwene gets captured in the forest by Seanchan, or when Ryma gets collared). Also sometimes the settings feel a bit underwhelming. I hope they get to the level where they can create a bit more epic/vast feel to the scenes.

When I saw the tree singing scene I loved that it was happening, but I didn't fully digest the ramifications of why it was being done until I heard you talking about it! Thanks for bringing me around on that!

Great review!

Splendid analysis

Thank you🌹

favourite episode of the entire show so far. Only thing that irked me was characters teleporting around as if travelling were discovered already.

@abdullahabid218

10 ай бұрын

@dragonrasp Lan, Alanna and her warders were in the middle of nowhere, manage to some how meet the amyrlyn who was heading back from caemlyn, and they all manage to arrive in cairhien in perfect time.

Brutal episode. But this will make Egwene stronger and hopefully dish out some vengeance.

Thank you for a consise but insightful recap of this very moving and emotioal episode. Given how awful, powerful and emotional it was seeing Egwene suffering and to a lesser extend watch the Yellow sister sacrafice therself while Nynaeve and Elaine finally bond over their shared frustration at being unable to help its easy to miss a lot of the other nuggets of lore and hints as to the future that dropped in the other scenes. I nyst respectfully disagree with you on how sudden Logain agreed to help. I don't know how long story wise has passed between episode 3 and 6 but its at least a few weeks if not longer. Logain is stuck in a nice garden with absolutely nothign to do but think of what he has lost. I would imagine thining about the request to train Rand is the only distraction he has from his boredome and pain. He has been stewing on it for weeks. I think that the scene also gives a hint of Rand becoming someone who can inspire others to follow him, a bit like he started assuming a leadership role in Book 2. He tries to bribe Logain at the start of the season, so does Moiraine later on. Now he has the smarts to try a differnet tactic and appeal to Logain's vanity and desperate need to have made a difference/mattered. I also thougth the show did an excelent job of showing Rand's relative underwelming performance one power wise up to this point. Don't get me wrong Rand seriously nuked the fade but the show at least to me made it seem that Nynaeve might actually be stronger than Rand. Only now we learn he was doing it the wrong way. So even using the wrong technique he is powerful but once he starts seizing the saidan we see him light up to match Nynaeve. As to the quesion is Logain right and Rand is so powerful he doesn't need skill i think he is right in the short term but wrong in the long term. Against an average Aes Sedai or Damane or a group of soldiers or even warders Rand could likley wipe the floor with them if he can control to a degree what he wasnt to so. But we know he going to have to eventually go up against channelers who while they might be not quite as strong as him are still roughly in his weight class and have much better control over what they can do. That control and refinement could easly see them overcome Rand's superior strength. One thing that the show has been silent on is does Rand still have the sa'angreal that Moiraine gave him at the end of season 1? Even if she was wrong and its only an angreal that would give him a major boost in taking on someone like Ishamael, at least until he can find a tutor and start leveling up his own abilities. I don't see how we will have any more time for lessons with Logain. POSSIBLE FUTURE SHOW SPOILERS We only have two episodes left Given that at the moment all roads/Ways? seem to be leading to Falme and there is the Seanchan invasion/Egwene's rescue/ retrieve the Horn, fight Ishamael to deal with my guess is episode 8 will be jam packed as it is. That leaves eposode 7. From the preview a non book reader might think the Amrylin has come with 14 Aes Sedai to gentle Rand. On the other hand it looks like we are getting the meeting between Rand & Siuan from the start of book 2 or at least a version of it. Given that Rand is pretty set on saving Egwene I don't think he will be taking time out to do any side quests once he is finished with the Amyrlin. if he does it would need to be handled very carefully otherwise it might come across that he is not treating Egwene's sitaution with the urgency it deserves. Its true that he has not seen the full extent of her 'training' but what he did see was bad enough. She was in a cell, barefoot, sleeping on a hard stone floor with no bed or furnature and with a rather unpleasant looking object around her throat and shoulders. I'm surprised that Rand did not tell Lan he was busy with a rescue misson and Lan needed to step aside or else. Lastly we might see some of the Seanchan beasts in the next episode. Unless they ignore Egwene (which I don't see how they can) now that she has in the Seanchan view started to break she will probably be brought out of her cell, maybe be given some backstory about the first damane and sul'dam. If the show is going to have Seanchan exotics this would be the best time for show viewers to catch a glimpse of them. Even if they don't have all the ground animals having the flying animals is quite important for a certain major plot event/ attack that comes later in the series.

So I haven't watched the show or read the books, i just like listening to your podcast, so I have no real context apart from that, but it seems like Logain(?) just wants the knife as quickly as possible, after an hour of training Rand(?), he's like "done! You don't need to know more than this, your'e now a master,, congrats! you're great, kid, in fact you're so awesome that you don't really need any training, you'll be fine. Gotta go and find the woman with the knife and tell her that your training is complete, so I can finally die"

I'm so curious about the scene with Lanfear and Liandrin, you'd think Lanfear's actions would turn Liandrin off from helping the dark, but then she mentions that the oaths sworn to the Dark One are still valid, she hasn't voided them despite "euthanising" the son, so was it all just a display of malice and power? So happy that Nynaeve was able to channel deliberately, I can't wait to see her realise her potential.

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

All really great points! Liandrin's story is going to be interesting to see play out. I'm also happy Nynaeve got to channel, just sad about the consequences of it. Ryma gave her all. What a way to go out 💛

@Frogface91

10 ай бұрын

@@roadtotarvalon I teared up big time when Ryma gave Nynaeve her ring 😭

@aylinpatacsil846

10 ай бұрын

I think the lesser consensus: Instead of following a man, Liandrin for all she stands for, should follow a woman.

@Frogface91

10 ай бұрын

@@aylinpatacsil846 Lanfear's words seemed to be playing on that, but then her actions surely worked against her! Assuming she's trying to recruit more loyalty for herself than Ishy.

ready to cry watching this episode

Hey everyone! I've just finished watching both seasons and I've fallen head over heels for this series! I can't seem to get enough and I'm itching to know what happens next. Should I start from the beginning of the books, or should I jump ahead to where the TV show currently is? I'm so hooked that I just can't stop! Your advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance!

@charlesmclemore5321

10 ай бұрын

Start reading from the beginning. It will be worth it.

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

Start at the beginning. Book 1, or book 0 "New Spring" either way you'll get a lot more details and background.

@realitia

10 ай бұрын

@@roadtotarvalon Yes, you'll have many months to read the books from the beginning before Season 3 comes out! :)

A solid 9/10 ❤

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

Glad you're enjoying it!!! 💜

There was a lot of trauma here in this episode, but I noticed 2 absolutely wonderful things that happened: 1- Nynaeve and Elayne hold hands to support each other for what they will need to do and 2- the renewed resolve showing in Egwene's face before it cuts to credits, just because the woman in the cell next to her finally speaks to her, trying to give her comfort. Hard episode to watch, but oh my.

The torture and treatment of Egwene is truly brutal. The fact that they eventually make her go by a PET name in the books shows the extent of brainwashing that occurs in these situations. What I think about is how egwene gets through this and how she uses this to become stronger and amazingly in the story is never truly broken by it. It really is hopeful when putting It in this light for me. I do not enjoy seeing the abuse at the hands of the seanchan. It is horrible to see that part of the books brought to light, but then I believe these things need to be in the light. The only part of the episode from a book stand point that I didn't enjoy was when Lan was trying to leave and Alanna and her warders qmwere questioning whether Lan was a darkfriend. The notion just seems ludicrous knowing who he is and where he is from. Lan had to have a good reason why he had that in his bags but they never asked him. I mean yes, reading the books we always knew more than the characters in the books, but this seemed to be a stretch in my opinion. Anyone else, sure, question it, but Lan of all people?? Logain teaching rand to channel is interesting. They have changed a bit of the lore for this part but I like the acting and visuals and understand it need to come from someone. I wonder what liandrin will do now and how they will expand. I can also see this as an opportunity for moghedian to work with liandrin like she did in the books. Mat min and rand...what will they do? I suppose we have a lot of unanswered questions as far as what will occur and what decisions they will have to make. I hope hope hope hope moraine gets her power back. I am expecting it at some point that someone will delve her and figure out she just has a really complicated knot on her shield, as has been described in the books. Though with less internal monolog about the power itself, it's hard to determine exactly what they can feel with the power. How many crowns for whether the ship captain is Bayle domon?

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

I think you're totally right about Bayle!!! The wild thing is, at this point, I'm completely in the dark as to what the next episode will be like. I could make a bunch of guesses but it's exciting to not know 🙃

@allenbird

10 ай бұрын

@@roadtotarvalon it is exciting to not know. Kind of like, I have an end game in mind but I have no clue how we are going to get there.

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

@@allenbird exactly!!!

I love your take, you get a follow and up be coming nah to see what you have to say moving forward

I feel Rand, since he is the most powerful channeler in WoT (not a book reader, but it was implied that the dragon reborn is extremely powerful) shouldn't be trained that much. I think it makes more sense if he can naturally wield the one power and adapt it to his well. He just needs a little guidance... and also since they are forced to squeeze the books, we probably won't see Rand fully train, beacuse that would take time... I am not a book reader btw..

@lordbetty4806

10 ай бұрын

Silly analogy, but imagine you start up a new mmo for the first time and instantly given the best and rarest gear + have your lvl set to cap and told "good luck, you'll be main tanking the hardest encounter in the game, don't fuck up" lol

@deadlyecho

10 ай бұрын

@@lordbetty4806 I would rather see this, than see him train for a whole season that would definitely be boring 😴 😒

@lordbetty4806

10 ай бұрын

@@deadlyecho Yeah, this is one reason for why i'd like 10 episodes instead of only 8, it feels a bit rushed, but I agree with your point :)

@malalford

10 ай бұрын

All the two rivers companions will be training in various disciplines. The wheel won't stop while they do though.

@asmo773

10 ай бұрын

⁠@@deadlyechoYou don’t have to see him train as most of the training can and should happen offscreen. The entire Logain plot is too slow, too little, and ultimately Rand didn’t learn much from him. They should/could have set up the scenes so that the audience can believe that Rand is progressing.

This is going to make the meeting with the empress so amazing.

Logain was eager to teach Rand caus in episode 4 Moirraine promised him the gift fo death if Rand progressed enough..

@malalford

10 ай бұрын

He wants to, but he's also jealous and sulking.

I think it’s notable that the Seanchan audience was in awe of Loial’s gift until Lady Suroth snapped them out of his trance. And all but ordered them to laugh bc they dare not defy her with their behavior. She saw him being revered and felt a moment of envy.

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

This is exactly what happened.

Btw... I love the new Mat actor

@mcgreeniepants

10 ай бұрын

Agreed!! Barney Harris was great but his take on Mat felt 90% melancholy, 10% snark, (in fairness that's arguably because he's warped by the dagger's influence most of that season), whereas Donal Finn's performance is more lighthearted and fun while still running deep emotionally--you really FEEL the mutual love between these two boyhood friends and what it means to Matt in this episode. So far Donal's performance feels so much more like Mat to me. Early days of course but that was my only hesitation with Mat's character. I'm hardly a book purist but you do want three main characters to FEEL recognizable, and for me in the books, even with the dagger, Mat isn't a character with a *sad-forward* energy, you know? Unhinged sometimes, sure, but sad? Rarely 😊 ...he is at least as traumatized as everyone else of course, but one of his defining (and most relatable) traits is that he uses humor, luck, and/or anger and violence to deal with everything.

As a book reader I never looked forward to Egwene's capture. The show humanized the Seanchan as villains, but I'm hoping to see some good traits.

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

It's brutal! Same, hopefully we will see some Seanchan characters that show them in a different light. Maybe. Fingers crossed.

@realitia

10 ай бұрын

@@roadtotarvalon Yes, like Egeanin, I hope she shows up!

Barthanes put butter on both sides of the sandwich. Now that is love right there

It makes no sense for Min to tell Mat to stay away from Rand. If she knows that Mat is going to kill Rand, then she already knows that it will happen and her visions are never wrong...

Siuan hasn't received Moraine letter yet when she's in the carriage.. Moraine is actually just sending her the letter when she's finds out that Siuan and 14 Aes Sedai have arrived in the city... And those 14 Aes Sedai are a really significant number. I can't believe people have overlooked this very important point of 14 Aes Sedai.😂

@bhabatoshnayak2916

10 ай бұрын

What is the significance of 14 .... please tell me i m dying to know.... I haven't read the book

@teresa9813

10 ай бұрын

@@bhabatoshnayak2916 It is a book spoiler...Let's just say Siuan is sending a warning/message to the dragon reborn. In the books they made a big point this large a number of Aes Sedai together is how they take control of powerful male channelers. So they can be gentled. I think they're there in case she has to use them against Rand.

When you get captured by someone who shaves off their eyebrows and the front half of their hair, you know you're in trouble

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

😆

not even games of thrones can invest so much of viewers' time in relentless torture of a key player only to crush her and get rid of her .. i didn't read any of the books, but certainly Egwene is destined for greatness in the series.. the torture was very tiresome.. it better delivers

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

🧠 I like your thinking!!!

@susanmarchus4379

10 ай бұрын

The torture is integral to Egwene’s character development, it deepens her. I don’t think this is gratuitous violence at all.

@Ceej474

10 ай бұрын

Also the torture in GoT was purely torture for torture's sake, they did a good job with getting everyone to hate Ramsay Bolton. This is a little different in that they are showing the mentality of an entire nation by trying to weaponise Egwene to be used in the Seanchan Empire, they are trying to meld a powerful tool. But it is important to Egwene's story.

Absolutely loved Madeline here 😮‍💨❤️

Non book reader here trying to find out the lore and character arcs from the books would love some help!!

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

Who and what are you looking for? 💜

I think with regards to the storyline with Egwene and the Seanchan its even more than vengeance it's a reckoning. If you look up reckoning and Tombstone you'll see what I mean.

It would be nice if they adapted New Spring in between seasons.

I found the Egwene scenes so disturbing I am dreading watching a second time. The use of the water jug is a really good focus to condense so many book scenes in one and as you say the symbolism is perfect. Also that hand hold between Elaine and Nyneave is just as wonderful as the Rand Matt hug. The appearance of the Aes Sedai is similar to their arrival in Faldara in book 1 so I will watch out for Liandin's compulsion being used on the Damodreds as she did on Agelmar's sister. And also watch out for Alanna around Rand, what will she try to do? I loved the yellow sister Ryma and I do hope she gets rescued and we can see more of her, but without her warder it will be so hard. I am a bit ambivalent about what is happening between Matt and Min. I think being a traitor or tempted to work for the dark is so far from her book character I am worried about whether they will try to get rid of her. I love book Min.

Guys, the show is great, please easy on critizing it, stop hating it just beacuse it doesn't exactly match the books, take it as a different take. I am afraid that too much critizing might hurt the series 💔 I am new to the WoT realm but I am really enjoying the show so far ❤

@pamelasheridan3717

10 ай бұрын

I totally agree with you. I too am I non book reader. I had never heard of the books. Not everything can be exact. They have to be condensed. As long as the overall spine of the book is captured I think this will be an excellent show

@davidschrodt507

10 ай бұрын

I'm a book reader and I agree with you 100%. This show isn't exactly like the books but how can anyone say it's not good?! This episode was amazing and gut wrenching

@Panicagq2

10 ай бұрын

There's no possible way to faithfully adapt 14 800-page novels with nearly 2500 named characters - I think they're hitting most of the character points really well while making Darkfriends and Seanchan into something more than cookie-cutter baddies. It's like we're in a flicker-universe very close to Jordan's world - I don't love everything they've done but overall they seem to really understand the characters. And of course, the casting. Wow. Renna turned from pleasant and almost solicitous to brutal anger when Egwene didn't appreciate the connection while Renna let her channel - but if you watch closely, it looks like it genuinely hurt her feelings for a moment to have the 'bond' rejected and she lashed out. Those two women are super powerful together and have great chemistry. Goosebumps.

@realitia

10 ай бұрын

@@Panicagq2 I agree, the negativity toward the series is disheartening. I'm loving the adaptation, having read the series twice now. It would be impossible to exactly replicate the books. I think they're doing a great job of capturing the essence of most of the characters and their progression/journey, especially this season.

Hey! Which book features the unfolding of this episode?

@thomasrinschler6783

10 ай бұрын

Almost everything in this season is from The Great Hunt.

They spent WAY too much time on Egwene in the cell. They trained her how to use the power as a weapon. They should have showed that.

are you doing episode 6 with preston? i love watching both of you talk!!!!

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

Yep. It should be out by tomorrow at the latest.

@konstantinkrastev4478

10 ай бұрын

So good cant' wait, its an episode worth discussing@@roadtotarvalon

As a Brit, I can reliably inform you that your favorite Mat gesture wasn't "a fist bump". Without being too NSFW, it's a gesture that represents something boys (and men) do to amuse themselves. It's normally associated with the common blokey slurs w*nker and t*sser. Among friends and enemies it's a very common gesture of mild rebuke/abuse. But, hey, we at least know Mat is a southpaw now!

I wouldn't mind if Egwene used the tree ignition weave on Renna....

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

😆 same.

Can someone tell me how Moraine got stilled in this season?

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

It happened last season in episode 8.

It was worse watching it a second time.

I know its hard but try not to compare the two..think of the as different points of views of the characters...the books are always better then the shows/ movies that's because its not our imagination filling in the blanks but a team working together. Our imagination is endless so they'll never never get it right. Knowing this And knowing time is limited? Please do yourself a favor and try to enjoy both.maybe not the same story over all. But you have to😢 give them credit for all the acting they did...dont show yr husband the books to afterwards. A lot of people are visual and will except a lesser story instead of having to put the effort into reading all the books thierselves... Be well..

We start with a Thor: Ragnarok scene. I think we are not going to get all the forsaken because Lanfear is wearing black when she should be wearing white. So we should be losing Semirhage because in the books, Semirhage always wear black because Lanfear always wear white. I am not sure what's the point of all the Moiraine scenes to be honest. It's waste of time. While I do hate this tv series, I do think that the actress for Liandrin is really good. And this show is once again, inconsistent. The last scene where Ryma was killing the Suldum... the damane should be feel twice over but the damane was still standing as if just having a stomachache. This show is really quite bad, considering that they have such great material to work with and they screwed it up.

That ring may have no opening, but it has seams that have not been completely rubbed out. I can see at least one. So for me, that is a prop disappointment. I loved this episode but can’t unsee one costume thing. It broke my suspension of disbelief here, just as it did in Game of Thrones: perfectly polished fingernails. Llyandrin’s pastel iridescent nails look very present-day to me. And Daenerys had them too, even after she burned the city. Why is that necessary? Shape and buff natural nails, for believability’s’ sake, please.

Wow, what a powerful episode from a non-bookreader!!👍👍👍The seanchan really have a VERY particular point of view!! Egwene deserves that water after all that torture!!💦💦💦 I myself needed a cup of tea after watching it! The aes sedai also have a very particular point of view in that they still men that can channel, which leads to death or insanity . The only thing that keeps them in check seems to be their three oaths. Otherwise, they might as well be darkfriends too!🎡🎡🎡⌚️⌚️⌚️

@roadtotarvalon

10 ай бұрын

Spicy take! I like it.

@khomo12

10 ай бұрын

@@roadtotarvalon Thanks!

@realkrishna01

10 ай бұрын

The have to still the men who can channel though…because they eventually go mad and cause destruction everywhere.

@blackpyxy9583

10 ай бұрын

Stilling men who can Channel is necessary (until saidin is cleansed)