The Vienna: Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

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The Vienna Game is a 1.e4 opening for White. Compared to other 1.e4 openings, the Vienna is much less common but theoretically sound.
This lecture was recorded on Monday, April 22, 2024. Thank you to Christian for sponsoring this lecture!
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  • @WhizzerdSupreme
    @WhizzerdSupremeАй бұрын

    Yes, finally!! The Vienna needs more love ❤

  • @somethingironic2227

    @somethingironic2227

    Ай бұрын

    my thoughts exactly

  • @f.d.3289

    @f.d.3289

    Ай бұрын

    it does get mine... i actually played the King's Gambit when I realized that I really like the so-called Mason-Keres variation (2...exf4 3.Nc3). And then I thought hey, why not play Nc3 first. And actually I have gotten interested in the Jobava-London where you also play 2.Nc3. Very underrated move, this 2.Nc3 :)

  • @howardgraff4084

    @howardgraff4084

    Ай бұрын

    Shhhh! ;)

  • @f.d.3289

    @f.d.3289

    Ай бұрын

    @@howardgraff4084 😂😂😂

  • @adomaskuzinas2137
    @adomaskuzinas2137Ай бұрын

    Finally Ben mentioned Australia!

  • @michaelgraflmusic

    @michaelgraflmusic

    Ай бұрын

    As an Austrian, I too am happy that it was mentioned.

  • @andreitiberiovicgazdovici
    @andreitiberiovicgazdoviciАй бұрын

    I had three ancestors in the family who fought for the Austro-Hungarian army in the First World War; however, I grew up in Italy as an Italian... and therefore I prevented my nostalgic grandfather from whistling the "Radetzky March"😂👍

  • @thenoblegnuwildebeest3625
    @thenoblegnuwildebeest3625Ай бұрын

    The Austrian's greatest trick has been convincing the world that Hitler was German and Beethoven was Viennese.

  • @playermartin286

    @playermartin286

    Ай бұрын

    Anybody who isn´t American knows this is not true

  • @crazymulgogi

    @crazymulgogi

    Ай бұрын

    Wasn't that Mozart (who was German by birth)?

  • @user-ec3co8rs5t

    @user-ec3co8rs5t

    Ай бұрын

    Mozart wurde im Fürsterzbistum Salzburg geboren, das erst nach den napoleonischen Kriegen nach Österreich kam.

  • @kodybrown9228
    @kodybrown9228Ай бұрын

    d3 may be the third best move but it’s definitely the most fun.

  • @f.d.3289
    @f.d.3289Ай бұрын

    heeey how nice, another opening lecture by my favourite GM Ben Finegold, plus it's about my favourite 1.e4 opening with White :)

  • @davewolf6256
    @davewolf6256Ай бұрын

    This is important for me because I play the Vienna 99% of the time I open--but my understanding of the theory is garbage.

  • @julianpilbrow4963

    @julianpilbrow4963

    Ай бұрын

    This is taking way too long and is the reason why they banned 2-way-coms because people can press their eyes right up against the LCD.

  • @nunosantos4217
    @nunosantos4217Ай бұрын

    As a Vienna enjoyer, I was delighted by the lecture and learned quite a lot. I usually like to play either the Gambit or just go into a Vienna Hybrid, gonna look into some of these other stuff. It's refreshing to see someone talk positively about the Vienna. The general sensus seems to be, if it's not popular it's bad, cause if it was good it would be popular. It reminds me of a lecture that you made about the Scotch, where noone was playing it until Kasparov started demolishing everyone with it. So it really might be a fashion thing, until then, Im happy staying under the radar. If anything, in my opinion (which is worth nothing) the Vienna could be seen as a great opening for beginners because of the lack of theory. You actually have to learn to play the game instead of just relying on theory.

  • @dantepilgrim
    @dantepilgrimАй бұрын

    Nigel is a legend! Thanks for the video Christian ❤

  • @subhankarbhadra781
    @subhankarbhadra781Ай бұрын

    Thanks to the person who sponsored. Really nice.

  • @calvinthegreat69
    @calvinthegreat69Ай бұрын

    A couple years ago I gained about 300 rating points online with the 3. bc4 variation. I'm pretty low rated so I found it very common to either see people over extend trying to target the bishop or I'd have time to f4, nf3, and castle. If you can set that up, you can get a really nice king side attack. Would recommend at low ratings.

  • @howardgraff4084
    @howardgraff4084Ай бұрын

    Thanks Ben. A very good lecture that is worth more than one viewing. (BTW, you forgot to mention that I'm not Ben Finegold.)

  • @tomrockefeller4620
    @tomrockefeller4620Ай бұрын

    I was hoping to see how the sausage is made.

  • @sar14cos
    @sar14cosАй бұрын

    Good Lecture, and very good choice of games. In French it is called Partie Viennoise and une viennoise is also a pastry.

  • @chadmacgargle5311
    @chadmacgargle5311Ай бұрын

    Very cool games Ben!

  • @JeffPHamm
    @JeffPHammАй бұрын

    I enjoyed this a lot. You touch upon some interesting ideas that I think often get overlooked, specifically the idea of "fashion" in terms of openings chosen by top GMs being different from the "objective truth" of an opening. I think it would be interesting to hear your own personal thoughts on openings/lines that are underplayed relative to their ... quality? (objectively they are good, but they get played far less than perhaps they should type thing). That's sort of one message of this lecture, but it's specific to the Vienna. I'm sure it's not the only one.

  • @jeffreyfisher3115
    @jeffreyfisher3115Ай бұрын

    But you know that when the truth is told That you can get what you want or you can just get old You're gonna kick off before you even get halfway through, ooh When will you realize Vienna waits for you?

  • @danjeory3659
    @danjeory365911 күн бұрын

    I suspect the person that updated the wiki article had watched a few of Levy's videos and presumed he knew everything.

  • @mcronrn
    @mcronrnАй бұрын

    There are fun lines where the Vienna transposes to the Nc3 (??) Kings Gambit Accepted… 😳🤣

  • @sublimeade
    @sublimeadeАй бұрын

    My favorite GMs opening GothamChess

  • @iniohos2
    @iniohos2Ай бұрын

    We want Karen to give a lecture.

  • @aarons3014
    @aarons3014Ай бұрын

    Eric Schiller's Wikipedia article is one hell of a read. FWIW I knew him slightly, and he was nice to me the few times we interacted.

  • @kingberzerk
    @kingberzerkАй бұрын

    33:43 in the Dracula Frankenstein "12...h6 to stop 13.Bg5" - not the only obvious move for Black.

  • @trmble6
    @trmble6Ай бұрын

    I can hear the sadness in Ben’s voice

  • @klizukk
    @klizukkАй бұрын

    Frankenstein-Dracula ?? Gad damn!

  • @maxneparewak
    @maxneparewakАй бұрын

    i got cooked against a vienna at a club tournament yesterday so i guess it is good for club players. ben is right again

  • @vaccaphd
    @vaccaphdАй бұрын

    I think Kortchnoi played it against Karpov. Not sure.

  • @MuseseekerMan
    @MuseseekerManАй бұрын

    As a Vienna player myself I love Bc4 after Nc6. I'm surprised you didn't cover it.

  • @nunosantos4217

    @nunosantos4217

    Ай бұрын

    I play those lines as well. I think he didn't cover it because those aren't "true" Viennas and usually will go into Vienna-Berlin Hybrids (with moves like d3 and/or f4 and some point)

  • @Sandfox07

    @Sandfox07

    Ай бұрын

    My friend also really likes playing that, he actually switched to the bishops opening because you can easily transpose, but you also have the option of not comitting Nc3. You could try it out too if you want

  • @ganeshsankarasubramanian142
    @ganeshsankarasubramanian142Ай бұрын

    Was half expecting obvious sattorov joke

  • @johnmahugu
    @johnmahuguАй бұрын

    This is how to study chess properly.

  • @AboveAvgMan
    @AboveAvgManАй бұрын

    I meet the vienna with 2. B to b4

  • @IRailroad
    @IRailroadАй бұрын

    😊

  • @josephboyne9327
    @josephboyne9327Ай бұрын

    Hello from Oklahoma! Did not expect the shout out in this video. 😅

  • @King.Mark.
    @King.Mark.Ай бұрын

    Are they real books made from paper from a tree that once grew on earth then filled with taughts from a human put into words made from real letters 👀 but not the kind that need stamps ?

  • @baoboumusic
    @baoboumusicАй бұрын

    Go Christian! But stay here!

  • @answeris4217
    @answeris4217Ай бұрын

    Toronto Eh.... Did you find a Vegan Poutine?? That would have shown Nepomniachtchi who's boss...

  • @paparatzz7531
    @paparatzz7531Ай бұрын

    Debashis gets bashed in this video

  • @PKloc
    @PKlocАй бұрын

    Looks like you losing weight and looking good… nice job.

  • @atwarwithdust
    @atwarwithdustАй бұрын

    You know you can edit Wikipedia articles, right?

  • @vartananq
    @vartananqАй бұрын

    First

  • @daniellamprecht1566

    @daniellamprecht1566

    Ай бұрын

    These comments are always funny, except for one thing...

  • @AdwaityaSahay
    @AdwaityaSahayАй бұрын

    Third😂

  • @shun0011
    @shun0011Ай бұрын

    why do you always look so sad

  • @baoboumusic

    @baoboumusic

    Ай бұрын

    Chess players are always sad. If you lose you're sad because you probably blundered, if you draw you're sad because you could have won, and if you win because you could have won quicker.

  • @WhizzerdSupreme
    @WhizzerdSupremeАй бұрын

    Yes, finally!! The Vienna needs more love ❤

  • @AboveAvgMan
    @AboveAvgManАй бұрын

    I meet the vienna with 2. B to b4

  • @pointlessmike

    @pointlessmike

    Ай бұрын

    You don't mind Nd5? Gains a tempo and allows the queenside pawns to expand while harassing your bishop. Also Qg4 might be annoying.

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