Jobava London: Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

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Check out Ben's Chessable courses here! www.chessable.com/author/BenF... The Jobava London is named after the Georgian chess visionary Baadur Jobava, a highly imaginative and creative grandmaster. The Jobava System is based around the opening moves 1 d4 d5 2 Nc3 Nf6 3 Bf4. For many years this was considered to be a quiet and unassuming backwater of chess theory. (via Everyman Chess)
This lecture was recorded on October 2, 2023, in Roswell, Georgia. Thank you, Phillipp, for sponsoring this lecture!
11:32 Vladislav Artemiev vs. Shakhriyar Mamedyarov
Blitz Match 2020
25:26 Baadur Jobava vs. Shakhriyar Mamedyarov
World Rapid Championship 2014
36:41 Baadur Jobava vs. Loek van Wely
World Rapid Championship 2014
43:03 Hans Niemann vs. Dmitry Svetushkin
Titled Tuesday 2020
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Пікірлер: 87

  • @Chunda8
    @Chunda86 ай бұрын

    I was showing this opening to a class of kids ranging in age from 6-11. It took only seconds for this thing to be re-christened the "Jo Mama" London.

  • @WhiteThunder121
    @WhiteThunder1217 ай бұрын

    "Your move hung mate in one, have you tried not hangning mate in one?" 10/10 chess teacher.

  • @12jswilson
    @12jswilson7 ай бұрын

    I learned something! Ben's middle name! Now like everything else I learn from Ben's lectures, I'll forget it in the next hour or 2.

  • @ChristianConspirator

    @ChristianConspirator

    Ай бұрын

    I remember it as Jobava. Instructions unclear

  • @planezero
    @planezero7 ай бұрын

    The answer is Fries Liver.

  • @baoboumusic

    @baoboumusic

    7 ай бұрын

    Very suspicious.

  • @morejoy5188

    @morejoy5188

    6 ай бұрын

    You want me to fry your liver? I favour garlic and onions when I'm having cannabis and cannabilsm nights. How about you?

  • @jonnnn7699

    @jonnnn7699

    6 ай бұрын

    Who is fri and what did he do to you?

  • @rkalle66

    @rkalle66

    3 ай бұрын

    @@jonnnn7699 Fries sounds like a dutch name maybe lving on one of the Frisian Islands.

  • @kalyansapsd1

    @kalyansapsd1

    17 күн бұрын

    @@morejoy5188hmm aristocrat

  • @bronxfy3993
    @bronxfy39936 ай бұрын

    This is my first time watching this guy and i can already tell i like him. Thank you for that video, mate!

  • @christopherpavlicas

    @christopherpavlicas

    3 ай бұрын

    To fully appreciate Ben Finegold, you really need to watch old videos of him giving chess lessons to children. He's hilarious!

  • @zainquadri1206
    @zainquadri12066 ай бұрын

    Waffling starts at 0:00 Lecture starts at 12:10

  • @sanidacounsellour5159

    @sanidacounsellour5159

    6 ай бұрын

    😢thank u

  • @Axiomatic75

    @Axiomatic75

    6 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @toxx1220

    @toxx1220

    3 ай бұрын

    savage xD

  • @shahmatsimplex4144
    @shahmatsimplex41446 ай бұрын

    I was a 1700 and used to play this opening in blitz games against weaker chess club opponents back in the 80s and crushing them. Never used it in tournaments or against stronger players since it wasn't played at higher levels and assumed it could be easily refuted . Plus it was gospel then that a knight in front of c pawn when playing d4 was bad. A buddy of mine rated 1600 did crush a 2100 in a 1990 tournament with the Jobava, since I beat him with it several times at the club,so he was brave enough to try it. We assumed his opponent just overlooked something obvious and had a bad day. 😂😂😂😂

  • @someguyontheinternet7628
    @someguyontheinternet76287 ай бұрын

    "the better player will win in the jobava". Fck, no wonder I keep losing in it.

  • @paulgoogol2652

    @paulgoogol2652

    7 ай бұрын

    Yea but that's true for most openings when you don't walk into forced drawing lines. Later he said the positions are messy and uncommon. But not uncommon to the guy who plays the same 10 opening moves 100 times a day. Don't fear the guy who studied 1000 openings, fear the guy who doesn't get bored playing the same position a 1000 times. He who won't get bored in the dullest positions.

  • @Dauksz.

    @Dauksz.

    Ай бұрын

    ​@@paulgoogol2652if you can call them "guys"

  • @diosn6909
    @diosn69097 ай бұрын

    Thanks for this lecture! I really like when there is also a book recommendation for further search.

  • @ambition883
    @ambition8836 ай бұрын

    Thanks for the lecture

  • @moosewild4239
    @moosewild42396 ай бұрын

    Really instructive. Enjoyed these.

  • @james-cf4mw
    @james-cf4mw7 ай бұрын

    Particularly excited about this one

  • @tiagohello
    @tiagohello2 ай бұрын

    Amazing video! Thank you so much! 💙

  • @rferstahl
    @rferstahl6 ай бұрын

    I've been playing this wrong the whole time, kinda trying to make it work like a regular London. Great lecture

  • @bluemerlin271
    @bluemerlin2716 ай бұрын

    Great overview Ben!

  • @MurrayHerts
    @MurrayHerts7 ай бұрын

    ooo I am very excited to watch this video, love Ben, love playing the Jobava, hopefully I can pick up some new tricks or just better understand the positions.

  • @manichounds
    @manichounds6 ай бұрын

    Very meaty. Tasty! Thanks Phil for payin’ up.

  • @12coleisabeast
    @12coleisabeast3 ай бұрын

    Man this really answered my how to deal with c5 question great lecture

  • @BuskingAndChess
    @BuskingAndChess7 ай бұрын

    I’ve played thousands of games in this system over the last few years and I love it. It’s becoming more common so people are starting to figure out how to play against it more but when someone has never seen it it never fails to deliver promising positions for white.

  • @MarkAro.

    @MarkAro.

    6 ай бұрын

    How many elo u have

  • @jacknorton9724

    @jacknorton9724

    6 ай бұрын

    Being someone fairly new to Jobava, it’s better than just beating the unexpected opponent to me because even against players who know what they’re doing, it’s always interesting positionally and offers dynamic play on both sides. It’s lately that I’ve been realizing from this just how boring playing against the Italian is, for instance.. it’s not dynamic until the very endgame and it’s just memory otherwise. Imo

  • @jefftaylor1186
    @jefftaylor11867 ай бұрын

    The Rapport-Jobava has been my d4 repertoire as white for about 4 months and it’s so overpowered that I only play it if I’m playing to be mean and really crush my opponent. Its a perfect blitz/bullet system

  • @Mark8v29
    @Mark8v29Ай бұрын

    I'm a beginner and really enjoy Ben's lectures even though they are quite speedy and advanced for me. I enjoy Ben's sense of humour but not sure sometimes when he is pulling the audiences leg. How do I interpret the Ben sayings "Always play such and such" and "Never play such and such" ? GM Hammer hates it when Andrea B plays the JL but I like that it's not 20 moves of theory.

  • @Iadonis
    @Iadonis6 ай бұрын

    one of the most underrated Chess Channels on KZread... this channel should have atleast a billion subs honest opinion

  • @banzaiburger9589
    @banzaiburger95897 ай бұрын

    Daniel Naroditsky and Bortnyk released a really good Jobava London course recently. Hope it was ok to mention it

  • @mhsnjani6179
    @mhsnjani61797 ай бұрын

    Hi 👋 This is awesome 👌 👏 I have a question about this system What do you recommend for...c4 as black response in general: I mean what should we do against this position: 1.d4 d4 2.Bf4 c5 3.Nc3 c4 (if black played against Hans Neiman) Or 1.d4 d4 2.Nc3 c5 3.Bf4 c4 (Standard move order of jobava system) Thanks 😊

  • @georgegreen3579
    @georgegreen35794 ай бұрын

    It would have been interesting to see 1/ the Nb5 line commonly played after ..3g6 and 2/ some instructive black wins.

  • @MrPassion4truth
    @MrPassion4truth6 ай бұрын

    According to the chess engine, black should not play c5, but instead, he should play bishop e7, which the engine says is already worth a pawn. If you look at the board at that point, white has developed only two pieces, while black has his king side pieces and his queen side bishop developed. Black should castle to safety and then launch a counter attack on the c2 pawn, because unlike black, white has no way to protect himself after already pushing all his king side pawns.

  • @thetransferaccount4586
    @thetransferaccount45866 ай бұрын

    that was entertaining

  • @danmertz3734
    @danmertz37342 ай бұрын

    Asking. Once read of a chess variable called pocket knights. The rule was one knight removed both sides. Knights could come into play, anytime during during game. When it was your move.

  • @elJas123
    @elJas1237 ай бұрын

    Does anyone know what other chessable courses is Ben working on?

  • @uPenguin
    @uPenguin7 ай бұрын

    At 39:47, what about Knight e4 for black? It looks like it either forces a queen trade or you can play Knight takes c3 check, which to me looks reasonable? I guess it probably loses the h pawn in some lines...

  • @uPenguin

    @uPenguin

    7 ай бұрын

    I just noticed it also hangs d5 so I guess it's just terrible 😂 nevermind

  • @rkalle66
    @rkalle663 ай бұрын

    I would be interested in a lecture of black's counterplay against Jobava London. One feature of this opening seems the tempo white has.

  • @f.d.3289
    @f.d.32897 ай бұрын

    13:04 "...Always play f3..." when he said that, my world crumbled and my brain imploded and i found myself to be a quivering blob of confusion in the midst of cosmic chaos

  • @AR-ln7ip

    @AR-ln7ip

    Ай бұрын

    Always play f3 when it's the best move.

  • @noahz
    @noahz7 ай бұрын

    The Unbeatable Jobava London

  • @iseriver3982
    @iseriver39827 ай бұрын

    I do love how everyonein chess complains about the london system, and yet the jobava london is the most popular opening.

  • @morejoy5188
    @morejoy51886 ай бұрын

    A4 for real. It's the only defensive move left for white. Correct me if I missed something.

  • @EnigmaChess
    @EnigmaChess3 ай бұрын

    jobava vs dutch is so op because after Bf4 you have ideas to play the killer g4

  • @alexandrenr
    @alexandrenr7 ай бұрын

    Rapport

  • @CrispyKorn
    @CrispyKorn2 ай бұрын

    Also called the Yomama London

  • @RuckDocBen
    @RuckDocBen7 ай бұрын

    11:30 Tombstone!

  • @penknight8532
    @penknight8532Ай бұрын

    lol dude literally said you can't do that but you can do it some of the time or most of the time and it can work :)

  • @briankorda3599
    @briankorda35996 ай бұрын

    Haha great way to end the video. "Show us the rapport Niemann game...no!" *Video ends*

  • @Flickit100
    @Flickit1006 ай бұрын

    Lecture starts at 12:10

  • @kurzackd
    @kurzackd6 ай бұрын

    07:54 -- *"So, if Black wants to lose right away, Black can play... [...] ... and then White can just play Nb5, and Black's like 'oh, I missed that and now I lose !!' "* Umm... no, Black does *NOT lose* ... and can just respond with... *e5.* ... *-_-* wtf Ben.. O_o

  • @theNfl_Esq
    @theNfl_Esq9 күн бұрын

    I run into E5 and the englund about 20% of the time

  • @elevenears4785
    @elevenears47855 ай бұрын

    Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo London.

  • @shadowside8433
    @shadowside84336 ай бұрын

    "Infamy, infamy, they've all got it infamy"

  • @ThunderChickenBucket
    @ThunderChickenBucket7 ай бұрын

    Nice

  • @swedishpsychopath8795
    @swedishpsychopath87956 ай бұрын

    Ben: Have you seen the Farmcraft101 guy here on youtube? He looks exactly like you! Are you twins?

  • @lawrencebutler7016
    @lawrencebutler70163 ай бұрын

    i do look optically

  • @carlosjavierpalacios6793
    @carlosjavierpalacios67933 ай бұрын

    real ogs called it the Veresov system

  • @Chunda8
    @Chunda86 ай бұрын

    I was not aware that the Ginger GM was considered infamous...whoa, chess drama....He's got some books and videos out, mostly on the Dutch and French. He seems to have a decent rating and a few notable wins.....I've seen a few of his videos and they were helpful. But, I probably wouldn't put him in my top 5 chess guys. Maybe top 10.

  • @luisbenites4825

    @luisbenites4825

    6 ай бұрын

    The infamy is not chess related, but law related

  • @Al-gv5uw
    @Al-gv5uw7 ай бұрын

    Ben Jamin’

  • @jasmint6703
    @jasmint67036 ай бұрын

    So half the games are of Mamedyarov getting destroyed. Maybe highlight some of his games where he is the destroyer at some point.

  • @giorgibliadze1151
    @giorgibliadze11516 ай бұрын

    Top G!!! Trash talking king!!!😂❤

  • @ribbonsofnight
    @ribbonsofnight7 ай бұрын

    I think Mamedyarov must have decided he doesn't like his knight being stuck on a6 like that. 2 games must be instructive.

  • @Thatotter223
    @Thatotter2237 ай бұрын

    gang violence

  • @paulgoogol2652
    @paulgoogol26527 ай бұрын

    This concept of Nb5 and Bf4 pinning down the knight to a6 and the rook on a8 because it never gets a move good enough to give away the pawn on a7 isn't new at all. I saw it before 2010 in high elo online chess and thought: yea that doesnt look good. So instinctively I almost never allow it to happen.

  • @brucehighcock4568
    @brucehighcock45686 ай бұрын

    Jo mama London 😅

  • @biggsweaty
    @biggsweaty6 ай бұрын

    I Never want to be rid of you haha

  • @allanturmaine5496
    @allanturmaine54966 ай бұрын

    I need to check out this Ginger GM feller.

  • @allanturmaine5496

    @allanturmaine5496

    6 ай бұрын

    That's a lotta personal damages!

  • @BentCarlChristensen
    @BentCarlChristensen7 ай бұрын

    Wasn't Hans using an engine in that specific game?

  • @planezero

    @planezero

    7 ай бұрын

    ​@@BuskingAndChess Alex Banzea is working on a Jobava London course for Chessable, hopefully better in that regard.. Says he actually hired Jobava himself to assist .. cant wait for that one to come out..

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin6 ай бұрын

    why is Mamedyarov getting beat like a drum by this pissant opening

  • @paulgoogol2652
    @paulgoogol26527 ай бұрын

    When black doesnt play the "correct" Jobava line, London players will call the arbiter.

  • @tombrown3737
    @tombrown37376 ай бұрын

    Great lecture but you can't talk about the Jobava for over 50 minutes and not mention Danya or Bortnyk in some way shape or form..

  • @LightBender777
    @LightBender77727 күн бұрын

    This guy yaps on way too much. Get to the point.

  • @fergferguson7370
    @fergferguson73703 ай бұрын

    You talk to much just get on with the moves

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