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@theodoremccarthy4438

3 жыл бұрын

Your ideological biases are getting hard to stomach. The anti-Imperialism of the current era is a product of the unique politics of the 20th century, not an inevitable and permanent product of “social progress”. The empires of the late modern era exhausted themselves fighting each other in WW2 ad were replaced by two hegemonic powers whose ideologies were anti-imperial: the liberal Democratic USA and the communist USSR. one of those two powers has collapsed and seen its ideology discredited. The other power is in the process of willfully abandoning its hegemonic role and seen many nations turn against its ideology in favor of a rising illiberalism. Any student of human history and human nature knows that the glories of Empire are a constant temptation for powerful states. History did not end with WW2, nor did human nature fundamentally change. Self professed empires will likely rise again. Dismissing imperialism because you buy into the leftist caricature of it being nothing more than “the oppression of indigenous peoples” is a position of willful ignorance.

@BS-vm5bt

3 жыл бұрын

I hope there will be a video on cybran nation from supreme commander or parhaps a video about xcom since those universes is intressting.

@volt8624

3 жыл бұрын

Could you do a video on the universe of elite dangerous sometime? Its a space game simillar to star citizen, you might be interested

@JesusSanchez-ij5de

3 жыл бұрын

Your opinion it is interesting. But I am from Spain, the Kindong of Spain. And I am sure that here are people seen your videos from The Empire of Japan, The Kingdong of Thailand, The United Kingdon or one of Emirates around the wolrd. And in some "Republics" are Kings, Princes, Dukes, Maharatas, etc. My point its thats your opinion about a medium/far future of humanity is influenced for your etnic and cultural origin (¿USA?). And you can be wrong. Sorry for my bad english. I know it is horrible, and my corrector is a spanish corrector in the cell. Thanks for the vídeo, and your patience.

@Jarlerus

3 жыл бұрын

@@theodoremccarthy4438 "leftist caricature" - your own (US?) bias is showing ;) (other than that, I agree with your statement)

"Imagine if the leader of your nation announced tomorrow that they were changing their title to emperor" *Applauds in First Galactic Empire*

@generalgrievous2782

3 жыл бұрын

The Republic will be reorganized into the first Galactic Empire, for a safe and secure society, which I assure you will last for 10,000 years.

@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen

3 жыл бұрын

@@generalgrievous2782 Wait why are you still alive ?

@generalgrievous2782

3 жыл бұрын

@@exaggeratedswaggerofablackteen Kenobi couldn't kill me with such an uncivilized weapon.

@dalob112

3 жыл бұрын

@@generalgrievous2782 Well that fire at least, seemed to have a good settlement in you chest...

@generalgrievous2782

3 жыл бұрын

@@dalob112 Republic propaganda...

Not gonna lie, a future where the political system makes no sense, contradicts itself and smacks of misunderstanding.. is probably the most believable part.

@stanleyclark923

2 жыл бұрын

yep, basically this right here

@mc.builder8267

2 жыл бұрын

Future? What are you talking about? That’s the present.

@optillian4182

2 жыл бұрын

The UEE is just the USA in space.

@mc.builder8267

2 жыл бұрын

@@optillian4182 I would say it is meant to look like Space Merica, but actually function like Space Rome. The big difference is the power of the head of state, in the US the President is powerful, but still secondary in power to Congress, as it can over turn the Presidents decision and even kick him out of office, while the President cannot do the same. In Rome it was the opposite. First off the head of gov was voted on by the senate, and they didn’t always have one because his power would be absolute, being even greater than that of the senate, and the senate had no legal means to remove him from office or over turn his ruling. so most of Rome’s history was emperorless, with exception being when the nation was at crisis and needed a singular unified direction, and the senate hoping the individual would just step down when the crisis was over. This is what happened until Julius Caesar decided to change it and not step down, thus his assassination in the senate building. It should be noted that Rome was a Republic, and that that government form is what the US founders chose for America. Obviously they made changes to it, but the basic principle of “rule of law” is still there.

@kirtil5177

2 жыл бұрын

yeah cant change for the better without beating the status-quo first

I disagree with the idea that once "progressing" to democratic nation states we would never again return to a different government type. Human progress is by no means guaranteed or irreversible.

@micheljavert5923

3 жыл бұрын

It’s a very fundamentally Western view of Time/History that everything is forward progress forever. It’s just that most people eventually notice that’s not how anything has ever worked with Humanity. We change our minds a lot... usually violently.

@guidobolke5618

3 жыл бұрын

Democracy in greece was usually short lived with a mob eventually placing a tyriant on the throne to restore order. France had a few lapses after their revolution.

@Kaanfight

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah this point feels a bit “end-of-history”-ey. If the two decades since the 1990s have proven anything, it’s that fascism and authoritarianism are not necessarily destroyed simply by having a democracy. Democratic governments like Russia, Brazil, Turkey, and the Philippines have all seen the rise of authoritarian governments after the failures of neoliberalism. These might function differently than other more overtly fascistic or authoritarian states in their bureaucratic systems, but they are just as fascist and authoritarian. Even nations with strong democracies like America have seen their democratic systems challenged and weakened, by it by losing faith in the legitimacy of elections or giving excess power to corporations. All in all, history is a complicated and fickle thing, and the idea that democracies are somehow its end goal is an outdated and disproved philosophy.

@mc.builder8267

3 жыл бұрын

ya, Greece is well known for electing despots and dictators. It wasn't until Rome that we had a country last several centuries without falling to corruption, and they were a republic. okay, first they were a monarchy, then they were a republic, one that elected emperors the rule for short periods of time so that the government would have enough focus and cohesion to deal with a nation wide crisis. These emperors always had to relinquish power after wards. Caesar was the first to not do so, thus why he was murdered. It seems he also started the "Emperors are monarchs" thing, which seems to have contributed to Rome's collapse. But the point stands. Democracies, which are mob rule(population majority decides everything), have devolved to monarchies rather quickly and consistently. While Republics, which are rule of law(a set of law(s), i.e. constitution, that restrict and govern the powers of the government), have historically been far more resistant to that passage of time.

@HandleMyBallsYouTube

3 жыл бұрын

Luetin had some stuff to say about that, society is a giant on clay legs, it doesn't take much to plunge our mighty civilized western societies into total anarchy, I'm sure the great civilizations of the bronze age too once believed that they would last forever.

Always start with an AI rebellion. It's the only way to explain why the computers in the game aren't as powerful as the computer you're sitting at.

@hashbrown_blitz8869

Жыл бұрын

@@H-to-O Warhammer 40k lore is ridiculous "religion happened and now progress is stagnant"

@novibes5619

Жыл бұрын

You obviously know very little about wh40k lore

@user-ez9ng2rw9c

Жыл бұрын

@@hashbrown_blitz8869 Tbf religion isn't what's halting progress directly. Big E banned progress even as a staunch atheist. Religion is the evil icing on top of an already fucked world.

@yuvalgabay1023

Жыл бұрын

@@hashbrown_blitz8869 the moment you realize the lore is for plastic army toys you will stop think about it and have fun whit that.

@hashbrown_blitz8869

Жыл бұрын

@@yuvalgabay1023 death korps of krieg all the way

"No hyper advanced, space civilisation would have an Emperor..." Warhammer 40K - "That sounds like heresy to me"

@13Lictor

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, their emperor is practically a demigod

@GodwynDi

3 жыл бұрын

@@13Lictor He is also the best kind of Emperor. Excellent propaganda and 0 actual power because he sits entombed on the throne. Beauracracy actually runs everything

@mho...

3 жыл бұрын

calling the 40k empire "advanced" is bretty brave indeed xD

@Newt0rz

3 жыл бұрын

The Imperium is also one of the biggest clusterf*cks of inefficient bureaucracy and religious zealotry in any realm of fiction. The lore reflects it's reality of not being a great place to live, despite what some people may tell you.

@HolyknightVader999

3 жыл бұрын

It is heresy.

“Cordoba in modern day Spain, Kaifeng in China, and Constantinople.” If you’re watching an hour-long world building rant/call out, then you do not need to be told where Constantinople was.

@alexs1954

3 жыл бұрын

What about Istanbul?

@SymbioteMullet

3 жыл бұрын

*waits for the music to start*

@MrBigCookieCrumble

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexs1954 What Is a Tan Bull?

@spacedoutorca4550

3 жыл бұрын

@@alexs1954 Wait, it’s been Constantinople this whole time? Always has been.

@gokbay3057

3 жыл бұрын

@@spacedoutorca4550 funny how it wasn't originally called that.

The bit about how cities can rise and fall in importance reminded me of New Mombasa in Halo. Mombasa is Kenya's second-largest city and a fairly major port nowadays, but by 2552, it's one of the most important cities on Earth due to the construction of the planet's first space elevator there. (And for bonus points, since Mombasa is fairly close to the equator, it's also a pretty good location for an actual space elevator.)

@seekingabsolution1907

2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking more about how Rome changed importance over the life span of the Roman empire. You know, by the time the western empire fell rome wasnt even its capital anymore.

@ShahjahanMasood

2 жыл бұрын

@@seekingabsolution1907 yup it was Ravenna. Constantinople eclipsed it later too. And even the Holy Roman Empire was just a glorified German empire with its capital wherever the Emperor happens to be.

@lordomacron3719

2 жыл бұрын

i disagree landbased terminals for an orbital tetherwould not be able to cope with flutations in the cable. It would be far easier to have the terminal in the ocean with the ability to move in sync with the 30km cable.

@ShahjahanMasood

2 жыл бұрын

@@lordomacron3719 I won't pretend to understand what you just wrote.

@lordomacron3719

2 жыл бұрын

@@ShahjahanMasood orbital Tether = Space Elevator would require a very long cable to a geo stationary satellite. That satellite would be making many corrections to maintain its orbit over time and the earth based end of the cable would have to match those movement by the satellite to maintain cable stability. so it would be easier to do that from an ocean base station than a land base station.

Ideology can change over time and through war. Rome was staunchly against a form of king yet celebrated their Augustus and after the collapse of western Rome Alaric started referring to himself as king.

@thepsion5

2 жыл бұрын

If I remember correctly, weren't there multiple, massive events and long-term wars that slowly pushed the population toward authoritarianism?

@AeneasGemini

2 жыл бұрын

@@thepsion5 It's more that those events made clear that a republican state would always be unstable as a form of government for a nation the size of Rome (in the ancient era anyway). Also to be fair, for most of the ordinary public, a dictatorship isn't too far of a step from what they had before (an oligarchical rule by elites). A group of people far removed from you ruling you isn't too different from just one person far removed from you.

@Andrew_NJ

2 жыл бұрын

Anyone with a good knowledge of science fiction media would welcome something different about earth's government instead of the tired trope of a socialist utopia of planet earth. For this I welcome the use of making the government an Empire.

@Callsign_Prophet

2 жыл бұрын

@@Andrew_NJ Exactly I agree. And it makes for a much more enjoyable multi-player when there's an authoritarian faction that some would be inclined to avoid and brings a lot more diversity between scientific and war vessels. Ex. Starfleet combined the two because they were against a standing military. I find it more realistic humanity would find itself less inclined to be peaceful when finding itself in a galaxy of peers.

@EldeNice

Жыл бұрын

@@AeneasGemini It's essentially the same today as well. Whenever a "ruling class" is formed, it's the inevitable outcome. Today we call them elites.

"Imagine if the leader of your nation announced tomorrow that they were changing their title to imperator..." Me(a Russian): "not that suprising to be honest("

@bryce4724

3 жыл бұрын

i mean he is only looking at it from a yanks perspective, i say long live the queen and we have had our independence for over 100 years just chose to keep the monarch

@jamesharding3459

3 жыл бұрын

Britain: First time? France: *Napoleon has entered the chat*

@DrTssha

3 жыл бұрын

@@bryce4724 Marc is Canadian, actually. Though to be fair, there are many similarities between our two cultures.

@ProfMaddex

3 жыл бұрын

Germany: Really? .... Here we go again, Hans get the Flammenwerfer.

@Kalckie

3 жыл бұрын

@@ProfMaddex *Erika intensifies* Jawohl!

When they launch star citizen, the game will already be set in the past

@LordVader1094

3 жыл бұрын

You say that like they'll ever launch it

@Giraffinator

3 жыл бұрын

"Yeah, people used to physically move between planets in these things called 'spaceships' instead of using instantaneous subspace teleportation or quantum entanglement mind-transplant cybernetic proxies." "Fucking lmao, what trogs"

@petevoo8353

3 жыл бұрын

yea better to launch this like fallout, or anthem, or cybersucks, yea, much better

@0816M3RC

3 жыл бұрын

@@petevoo8353 Cyberpunk is not that bad on the newer consoles.

@NimhLabs

3 жыл бұрын

Star Citizen is a wonderful Video Game Themed Ponzi Scheme that makes a wonderful argument for investing in Dogecoin! I mean, you could spend money on Star Citizen... and uh... something? Or spend money on Dogecoin, and be a Meme Emperor!

Theirs something I want to point out in the Shanghai picture. You see large ring buildings. In modern day Shanghai, their is a famous building known as the “bottle opener” due to its SQUARE hole at the top. As locals complained that a circular hole would be too reminiscent of the Japanese sun.

@dragonbornexpress5650

Жыл бұрын

Oh, that's funny.

@KeiKAndLies

11 ай бұрын

What a shallow and stupid reason to change a design. Any circle is reminiscent of the Japanese sun. The sun is reminiscent of the Japanese sun. We should blot out the sun for that😂.

@vikiai4241

10 ай бұрын

@@KeiKAndLies You have to keep in mind that Shanghai was one of the focus points for Japan's WWII atrocities in China. There is still a lot of bad feeling there about that.

@lordlantern599

10 ай бұрын

​@@KeiKAndLiesYou also have to keep in mind, similar to what vikiai said, The Rising Sun for a lot of Asia is on the level of the Swastika for the majority of the West- that is, incredibly offensive to use or even mention considering the connotations of the regimes they remind people of

@concept5631

5 ай бұрын

Oh my God that's hilarious

22:10 "I am completely fine with a system that's filled with hypocrisy, and organizations that lack the power to implement change, a nation where the justice system is corrupt, and a variety of loopholes exist that the government can use to grant itself more power than it's legally allowed to have." -Templin Institute, 2021

@enotsnavdier6867

11 ай бұрын

Based

@longiusaescius2537

9 ай бұрын

@enotsnavdier6867 interesting

"The name of [your country here] Empire" Austrian Empire? Never heard of that .. *nervously laughs in habsburg*

@ineednochannelyoutube5384

3 жыл бұрын

You could.probably convince the old.members to have another go...

@gabrieldantas63

3 жыл бұрын

Also Brazillian Empire... I think the criticism in this video is kinda shallow.

@ineednochannelyoutube5384

3 жыл бұрын

@@gabrieldantas63 It absolutely is.

@NimhLabs

3 жыл бұрын

The Canadian Empire? Well... that doesn't sound nice. I mean, it sounds VERY polite... but not nice (there is a difference) Besides, Canada works best by not being at open war--so much as Peace Keeping... or just assassinating world leaders for similar justifications as Hannibal Lector--and letting the Americans take credit So the entire world would OFFICIALLY be at Peace... and there would be no genocides--just people going missing after going out for walks. That group of people all individually went out for a walk--and something appears to happen to them... individually... in the same location. That they had no choice but to walk through But hey! We have Timbits and Tim Hortons! Who doesn't love Donut Holes and their Double Double? You can do the right thing and just not notice that other stuff happening (it is really easy)--and watch that Hockey game! Again... Canadian Empire sounds polite... but not really nice at all... but still VERY polite. I mean, if you aren't polite, you might find yourself having to go for a walk one day... and since you were rude you'd not have the buddy system to help you out. So it is best to be VERY polite

@GaldirEonai

3 жыл бұрын

@@ineednochannelyoutube5384 I think the only thing in the world more full of fail than our current government is what's left of the Habsburgs.

"If the pollution is so bad as to melt concrete, why would they deal with the symptom instead of the root problem" I'm sorry mark but if I'm honest that's probably the most realistic part of the setting 😂 If humans have any special ability it's that they are very good at delaying problems instead of fixing them until it's the next generations problem

@brianthegould

3 жыл бұрын

100% we don't do anything until it is already way to late if we can't delay it. Example: Human history

@leonardusrakapradayan2253

3 жыл бұрын

@@brianthegould another good example: My homework

@brucetothewayne1803

3 жыл бұрын

It's more most humans don't go about thinking about the future because now exists and would rather try to solve now's problems thinking they will get worse in the future, which unintentionally solves nothing and just creates more problems. It's like trying to understand why some are pre-emptive with their actions and others are reactive.

@slimek20

3 жыл бұрын

I think we are assuming that humanity that could get off its home planet is at least competent enough to understand problem solving, unlike reality.

@pennyforyourthots

3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, "realistic" in writing and realistic in reality aren't even close to the same thing. What's the old quote? Reality would be the worst book ever because it isn't consistent or something?

"Democracy's forming into dictatorships is rare" Ancient Athens: "am I a joke to you?"

@Phox532

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah but ancient Greek dictatorships were kind of a joke. They often only lasted one or two years because the dictator would give a power back to the democracy. I can’t remember which Athenian dictator was but they basically begged him to remain dictator for life and he simply turn them down and went back to being a farmer

@calebbarnhouse496

Жыл бұрын

@@Phox532 that's when they find the good dictator, it takes one bad dictator to keep power in there family forever

@DavidStruveDesigns

Жыл бұрын

Not to mention WW2 Germany. People often forget that Hitler himself was democratically elected - by a pretty liberal democratic society - and then used those same democratic systems to undermine the entire thing until he essentially became Emperor in all but title (although the title of "Fuhrer" is probably as close to that of "Emperor" as to make no difference linguistically).

@xeranths

Жыл бұрын

France has too turn from a democtratic state to an empire with Napoleon. And there are a few recent examples in eastern Europe I think.

@admiralgalactica

Жыл бұрын

Weimarer Republik, am i a Joke to you?

United Empire of Earth: "Yay! We're going to form a galactic federation!" Galactic Federation: "...this, again?"

38:21 I'm fairly certain that "treating the symptom instead of the cause" is the most accurate description of human governments in history

@daydev2599

3 жыл бұрын

Honestly, "wrap historical buildings in plastic to protect them from acid rain while doing nothing of substance otherwise" seems entirely plausible.

@pancake_crab4457

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah. But if your air is do polluted your historical landmarks are getting damaged, it's probably doing a number on your current buildings--or forcing you to use expensive protective materials. Not to mention how bad it's got to be for your people.

@benjaminwinnie4626

3 жыл бұрын

@@pancake_crab4457 if putting buildings in a plastic bag makes the tourist stay, than that’s all they will do. As for the people, authoritarian regimes don’t care unless it threatens their power.

@Llortnerof

3 жыл бұрын

@@daydev2599 We should be more surprised this hasn't already happened, if anything. The issue is very much a real thing affecting historic buildings today.

@verminsupreme6801

3 жыл бұрын

What do you mean our education system is shit? Just throw more money at it!

Here in Brazil there are monarchists who wants to reinstitute the monarchy, renaming the Federative Republic of Brazil to Empire of Brazil, as was the official name of the country until 1889, and having an Emperor as head of state. Granted, the monarchists are a small group, but it is a real life example of a political faction that don't shy away from this imperial terminology. Perhaps the name "empire" just don't have the same negative conotation in all over the world? All those political views changes over the time. Remember that in Roman Empire the title King (Rex) had a very negative conotation, and thus the name Imperator was created. Today, it may be inverted. Who knows how people will think in the future?

@user-li8nm8nz9b

3 жыл бұрын

Yea i think the term empire could eventually become a reusable term anyways since everyone already knows that the old fashion term for empire is a thing of the past they could reuse it to refer to nation with colonial territories in multiple planets

@Ditidos

3 жыл бұрын

I agree, his vision on realistic goverments seem extremely USA centric, but to be fair, generally speaking USA is the country that gets to have all these universes as a force that engulf the other countries (maybe China, Japan or an eastern state gets salved). But it generally engulf latinos (all of them, not just latin america, europe too) as part of the west world despite having huge diferences in specific areas (like having imperial terms in a good or positive mood in a least a fraction of the population). This is probably because there isn't a latin superpower and virtually all of these countries are allied with more anglo/yanki countries. Coming from Spain, people wanted to reinstaure absolute monarchy up to when Franco got to power. Heck, part of Franco's power was based on him letting the goverment in the hands of a royal family member and the only reason Carlist are no longer a thing is because the bloodline was killed completely during Franco's regime. Heck, even today having blood and coming from a "good" family is still important.

@dirckthedork-knight1201

3 жыл бұрын

You have to see his "naming interstellar empire" video its soooo badly researched and so based on stereotypes it *hurts*

@Ditidos

3 жыл бұрын

@@dirckthedork-knight1201 To be fair, it's not bad to have as a guideline to know more or less what people expect from those names. Although, I'm personally not a fan of interstellar states or FTL travel, really.

@user-li8nm8nz9b

3 жыл бұрын

@@Ditidos I think FTL can be interesting but its poorly imagined and FTL tech concepts rely on theoretical science, just to mention another concept regarding space flight i would want to see is the stress of movement to not just its crew but even the spacecraft itself, everything from a rapid turn accidentally liquefying its crew to a ship with a heavily damaged frame getting ripped apart due to accelerating to much turning the ship into a artificial debris field that's moving in catastrophic speeds, just imagine the scenarios people could depict in film and games

I think the term Empire gains much more credence when you have a multi-alien threat. People could absolutely be wanting to feel closer to one another and that is where I think you can have a positive empire connotation. Empire has a powerful feeling behind it. I could see humans wanting to feel powerful. But also not all humans are in the Empire. There are actually several human factions here.

@leeschulken8744

2 жыл бұрын

yup and that's not even getting into the potential of the Earth/Terra split which will probably be a thing at some point.

@thehighground3630

2 жыл бұрын

@@leeschulken8744 what are you referring to?

@leeschulken8744

2 жыл бұрын

@@thehighground3630 Some people want Earth to be the capitol others want Terra to be the Capitol. It's a rather large issue for a lot of people i think.

@thehighground3630

2 жыл бұрын

@@leeschulken8744 Earth and Terra are one and the same.

@the_corvid97

2 жыл бұрын

@@thehighground3630 In Star Citizen Earth and Terra are two different planets.

“Imagine if the head of your country announced tomorrow that they had decided to change their title to emperor” Me as a Russian: "Well, time to finally develop a national ideology and reborn the spirit of the Great Times'. *Vyatka starts playing*

@AnEruditeWolf

3 жыл бұрын

Why yes, I enjoy listening to Vyatka_super for the third time in a row, how could you tell?

@uncannyvalley2350

3 жыл бұрын

It's like he forgot about Trump and his followers wanting him to be declared Emperor. Pml, but this guy thinks hes an authority on reality? Look around the world dipshit 73% of the World's dictators are armed by America ! We are good mates with some of the most violent and authoritarian nations on earth, even a *literal Kingdom where they chop off people's heads* 🙄

@808INFantry11X

3 жыл бұрын

@@uncannyvalley2350 well that's was never going to happen. As you may know from history Hitler came to power as chancellor and then became e the funeral after the death of Von Bismark. This was recorded in history so since then declaring yourself an emperor especially in nations who don't respect the ideology of empire is not good long term prospect

@hunterv9983

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder. As a Russian, how do you feel about Putin's President For Life/Tsar/Premier mindset?

@drunkkoschei2012

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexeyvlasenko6622 ибо нехай

"Grab another can of vanilla coke" *looks at actual can of vanilla coke in hand* Uh, yeah mark I'm sure you're right I need another.

@TikkiEXX

3 жыл бұрын

Vanilla coke aka the nectar of the gods. Lol

@boxcarz

3 жыл бұрын

Vanilla Pepsi's still better.

@ToastedWaffles_

3 жыл бұрын

@@boxcarz Strongly disagree. Pepsi is only good out of a fountain and I still prefer coke.

@GlizzyGoblin757

3 жыл бұрын

vanilla coke is repulsive

@rampe5610

3 жыл бұрын

@@boxcarz HERESY! 😆

I've seen a certain Jingles frequently crack jokes about how Star Citizen is too ambitious, but this is taking it to a whole new level.

@lyman6

3 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't have thought to see the Rear Admiral referenced in the Institute comments, but here we are.

@Jdne199311

3 жыл бұрын

*the Mighty Jingles hahah

@russman3787

3 жыл бұрын

@@lyman6 I've seen a lot of interaction between youtubers I never would have thought knew each other lately.

@carsoncarolina2358

3 жыл бұрын

I love Jingles but no offense to him he knows nothing of Star Citizen and was even reached out to by the community to give him a full tour slash breakdown. He responded to none of them so his criticism is basically void.

@everythingsgonnabealright8888

3 жыл бұрын

@@carsoncarolina2358 I get the feeling that SC community looks from the outside as some kind of unreasonable cult to uninitiated, members of which will go to any lengths to “convert” those who do criticism about subject matter. So one can understand him, he did criticism and suddenly many people are approaching him with notions of “in depth toor”, with clear indication “you just don’t get it”. I kinda subscribe to this POV, but not aggressively. I just try to stay away from the community of this game and make my own judgements, without spiritual guides.

"The imperial Dynasties of Ancient Vietnamn were not terribly concerned with regulating the internet"

@DRTisKING

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds based

@thepurplpineapple9495

2 ай бұрын

Cap

The game takes place like 900 years in the future, and given that empire has only been a bad word for roughly 100 years, it's a bit solipsistic to assume that in the next 9 centuries there could be similar swings in feelings on the matter. History is not a one way street.

@thehighground3630

2 жыл бұрын

Imagine, in 900 years they spit on democracies because democracies caused the third world warh or something... Maybe they failed to deal with a pandemic...

@sleipnirodin2881

2 жыл бұрын

@@thehighground3630 hmmm... Failed to control a great Pandemic. What a excellent Sci-Fi concept! I will start a Storyboard on it, for the date... hmmm! ho. I know, what about First January 2022? It's The Future alright? Wonderfull idea, it is as if you lived trought that or something...

@JonatasAdoM

2 жыл бұрын

Rome again is the perfect example. Went from a Republic to an absolutist state. All while doing it's best to remain a Republic.

@DanielSan1776

Жыл бұрын

That’s a good name I approve

Another thing the Star Citizen universe seems to miss is how Caesar, who Messer evidently was based on, became dictator. Roman leaders were expected to lead armies directly, and senators could raise armies under the Marian reforms more effectively. The closest one can come to this would be for each planet to have its own military capacity, and a leader of that world would raise forces to march on Earth and declare martial law and the leader declare himself dictator. But that's assuming a lot.

@Junglebauer

3 жыл бұрын

google is your friend, just saying... just type "Ivar Messer I - Galactapedia", your question will be answered there. The Galacatpedia is CIG's own lore wiki, where you can already find a ton of reading material about Star Citizens lore. The Lore Team keeps expanding it, adding multiple articles every week.

@bahayesilyurt9433

3 жыл бұрын

caesar never managed to become a true 'dictator'. it was a title bestowed in martial times and meant something different than what we use it for today. he was assassinated before he declared himself a monarch

@tremor3258

3 жыл бұрын

Not to mention Ceasar was coming after decades of eating at the 'standards' of the Republic with senator-generals and civil wars, and even then, it was a few more rounds before Augustus managed to stabilize the system.

@friendlytalbot4050

3 жыл бұрын

@@bahayesilyurt9433 It's not so much you 'become' a dictator as you're declared one. It's not so different than being given emergency powers today. In lieu of writing a several page thesis on the matter, I said it as it was. Any other interpretation of the meaning is made by you.

@friendlytalbot4050

3 жыл бұрын

@@tremor3258 Precisely.

When your game's lore is so bad that an entire channel has to break character...

@leonardusrakapradayan2253

3 жыл бұрын

@@anno-fw7xn Godzilla had a stroke reading this and fucking died.

@hanxilblitzer3806

3 жыл бұрын

@@leonardusrakapradayan2253 Pretty sure the whole monsterverse had a stroke too

@hanxilblitzer3806

3 жыл бұрын

@@p-monarch8435 Well shit, we're not gonna have much of a future left now are we-

@TheLH86

3 жыл бұрын

What the sweet fuck are you actually trying to say?

@saschathau7473

3 жыл бұрын

@@anno-fw7xn Funny. Your comment has as much depth as the lore of SC.

In a space-faring civilization setting, it would be reasonable to make some cities along the equator the new "capital of earth" or "trade center". They could have grown significantly during the early years of space expansion due to their convenient latitude, or even due to their proximity to space elevators. That would be a lot more interesting than just revamping modern megacities. In fact, the Gundam universe does a great job at this: in the UC timeline, Dakar is the political capital of the Earth Federation; they also have their largest military base and command center, Jaburo, in the Amazons (of course I wouldn't know where exactly).

@longiusaescius2537

9 ай бұрын

Yeah

@reganator5000

6 ай бұрын

Halo has New Mombasa, as well, due to it's proximity to the space elevator. As well as Sydney having ended up functioning as capital due to the nearby location of HIGHCOM Bravo-6 (which is also a weird aside- as far as the description goes, there's not much indication that Sydney functions like a modern capital, in that it's merely home to an important part of the military command structure following the destruction of the forward staging ground on Reach. If earth hadn't spent so much time under martial law, it's possible that the capital would still be Manhattan due to it being the UN space command, not the Australian Space Command)

The UEE military emblems look more like military badges than emblems. Though speaking of it’s kind of weird how tanks don’t seem to exist in a lot of space settings. Tanks are cool. Space tanks sound double cool.

@yestermonth

2 жыл бұрын

UEE has tanks

@leinadreign3510

2 жыл бұрын

@@yestermonth *Tonks

@Numl0k

2 жыл бұрын

Tanks are great, but why use tanks when you have something hundreds of times more powerful that can fly? You could argue that we still have tanks in the real world when helicopters and jets exist, but those both have disadvantages not shared by frikkin’ spaceships.

@yestermonth

2 жыл бұрын

@@leinadreign3510 right

@Andrewza1

2 жыл бұрын

@@Numl0k tanks are cheaper than space ship and can hold ground far cheaper

So straight up, the plastic wrap buildings would be a cool idea, if those buildings were treated as museums or done for historic preservation. Not with the intent of actually being used as an office building still.

@EksaStelmere

3 жыл бұрын

There's so, so many better ways to do it though. Nanolaminates come to mind. =w=

@thepsion5

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the whole "put each building in gigantic glass cases" just feels really lazy. How much more interesting if they had a "historical preservation dome" over part of NYC with a filtered atmosphere? It could have been a major national project and have its own lore, like the Hoover Dam

@SilverMe2004

2 жыл бұрын

I would expect the new buildings to be build over the top of them. kind of like that one apartment building with a train running through the middle of it. So yes a skyscraper hole in the side of a new megascraper

@LowTiertoji

Жыл бұрын

@@SilverMe2004 something similar to China in deus ex human revolution?

38:20 "Why would they treat the symptom and not the root cause?" You say that as if that isn't every government or corporation's response to every problem they come across.

@Pyreleaf

3 жыл бұрын

Hahaha we're all gonna die.

@humanperson7646

3 жыл бұрын

@@Pyreleaf yep

@dudius3743

3 жыл бұрын

You say that like an American

@jeova0sanctus0unus

3 жыл бұрын

seeing as the root cause is usually capitalsim, solving that is not allowed, so symptom it is.

@tokenfinnishguy8714

3 жыл бұрын

If you can profit on it, why fix it?

There’s a sci-fi book series called Empire Rising where the United Nations was replaced with a UK inspired empire, though that was because many of Earth’s cities are just levelled by a hostile alien race and most humanity’s national leaders were dead.

I'd love to see a deep dive like this into BattleTech. It surprised me how deep the lore goes, while still hanging on to some jankiness from the 80s.

@MrXinshadow

3 жыл бұрын

My absolute favorite bit of BT lore is how they retconned the animated TV show to basically be a shlocky in-universe recruitment tool. DO YOU HEAR THAT GAMES WORKSHOP, THATS HOW YOU RETCON OLD CONTENT haha

@patrickflying17

2 жыл бұрын

They'd prolly say the same thign even though a common theme in battle tech is how humanity finds ways of regressing despite technology reaching heights never imagined.

@thewildfrost2165

2 жыл бұрын

This wasn't a deep dive, he just spent too much time talking about his shallow research attempt... Like really shallow... Like got stuck of the surface tension shallow

@Fenrir152

4 ай бұрын

Tex of the BlackPantsLegion does deep dives into BT lore through complete histories of the Mechs. I highly recommend you check it out. I find it utterly fascinating how they portray a dystopian universe where the military complex has been turnt to 1500% and "hipity-hopity get off my property" means glassing a planet.

@rddragon5

4 ай бұрын

@@Fenrir152 I'm already subscribed to Tex and Big Red. Just nice to see something from a fresh perspective. Everyone has their own take on things. See the many MANY Star Wars channels but it still gets covered here too

The UEE insignia is literally just a bad take on the UN flag.

@gagaplex

3 жыл бұрын

A literal rip-off with a globe would be nicer.

@turboglifo

3 жыл бұрын

Its looks alike some sort of peronist trade union logo.

@LarchmontVillageOG

3 жыл бұрын

The UEE logo is heavily cribbed from the Southeastern Conference logo.

@Gulitize

3 жыл бұрын

It looks like the UN flag combined with the old style insignia of german companies from the 1900-1940. It would feel right at home on an old machine or radio

@emergcon

3 жыл бұрын

That UEE Building in NYC is at the same place as the UN HQ today.

33:05 this is actually a common mistake that people make in their mindset when designing fictional military hardware - i did it too: they don't realize that whatever space for crew is, from the standpoint of military design, a very unfortunate necessity, as opposed to primary concern. until you actually climb into a real, fully equipped tank, most people don't get that, so instead of designing military hw like "cram it full of ammo and weapons, and... dammit, yeah, we also need to jam some crew in there to operate it", they do "so this is the entrance hallway, this is the guestroom, these are the super-erconomic gaming chair command posts, here we have a kitchen... oh yeah, there's some guns and ammo over there, in case we need it"

@CarrotConsumer

3 жыл бұрын

Ships during the age of sail could have rather nice officer quarters. But yeah, a tank probably not.

@sethb3090

2 жыл бұрын

Leg room is for command staff (lt. colonel and up) only, which is to say, none of the people who would be driving tanks

@ashishchoudhary6982

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, that's true. The military does not prioritize comfort, having a hallway in a tank looks really dumb. The military would never leave an empty hallway in a tank, they'd probably cram in more ammo, or another gun or just add a new motor or something to increase speed but, leaving empty space is a big no no

@foxtrot8982

2 жыл бұрын

@@ashishchoudhary6982 Not exactly, there are some schools of thought that crew comfort plays a large role in crew effectiveness. For instance, Commonwealth-style tanks are well known to have Boiling Vessels (BVs) to heat food and tea (not even a joke). The IDF has Merkavas which have high-performance air conditioning and can even be fitted with an internal toilet for long-duration missions. For aircraft, there are entire military studies on how comfortable pilot seats are. On the other end of the spectrum, you have any Soviet AFV which can be considered a war crime against the crew and any passengers with how tightly packed they were. You've also got for instance the Bradley IFV which will have dismounts spending literal weeks in the back and the bench is well... it's not fun. That all being said a tank having a hallway is fuckin stupid and honestly isn't even a tank by that point

@ashishchoudhary6982

2 жыл бұрын

@@foxtrot8982 Oh, interesting. I didn't knew about the boilers, thanks for info.

“Imagine if the head of your country announced tomorrow that they had decided to change their title to emperor” Germans: Not again...

@platiuscyndar9017

3 жыл бұрын

honestly, my thought as i heard this was "the entire world is going to roll up on our doorstep in tanks and shit. for the third time. in a row. would be kinda embarassing tbh"

@XMysticHerox

2 жыл бұрын

Hitler didn´t call himself emperor. Kinda reinforces the point the video makes.

@danielkristiansen2298

2 жыл бұрын

@@XMysticHerox Napoleon did though. Both of them! Napoleon I changed his title from First Consul to Emperor in 1804 and Napoleon III changed his title from President to Emperor in 1852. Fun fact: Napoleon III was the first popularly elected head of state of France, and its last monarch :D

@XMysticHerox

2 жыл бұрын

@@danielkristiansen2298 Napoleon declared himself Emperor in a nation that was a monarchy 5 years before. A highly unstable nation in a world with essentially no democratic tradition. Where this form of government was the norm. Obviously none of this applies to the SC lore even remotely. It´s a 500 year old democracy that by all accounts is highly stable at this point and in fact just won a war. Messer is obviously based on Napoleon but it wasn´t done with a good understanding of the actual history or geopolitics generally. It´s more like someone just skimmed the wiki article on Napoleons rise to power and copied it one to one. It just seems little thought has been put into this. You could absolutely justify an Empire. Frankly I think a democracy would be just fine and generally more plausible but you could certainly come up with a believable series of events that would destabilize the UN enough for an Empire to become at least somewhat plausible. But this just isn´t done in the lore. Instead it´s a very lazy carbon copy of Napoleon which makes no sense.

@sumreensultana1860

2 жыл бұрын

All 0f The world's military's Drive tanks on the man who called himself Emperor

I think it would be incredibly interesting to see some resurgence of some form of constitutional monarchy in science fiction. Similar to a more democratic political structure of Dune (which in turn was inspired by the technofeudalism of the Foundation). Space is a vast and extremely dangerous place. I could see future generations wanting to have the benefits of the democratic rule while also having the stability of a "monarch" of some kind that is hereditary and can address both internal and external threats with some degree of independence from a grid-locked process. That being said, putting limits on what the monarch can do (whatever their title is) would also add to the interest. Like a ruler who can pass executive laws, but can't curtail congress/the assembly and votes in the legislature can review and even straight-up block autocratic bulls. In a universe where travel between one side of a nation and the other can be painfully long - even with superluminal travel - there would be issues that would need to be addressed that I don't think a simple democracy would be able to handle.

But then, three days later, Musk crowned himself "Technoking" of Tesla, Mars, and probably the universe in general. You literally couldn't write this stuff.

@dennisnordlund902

3 жыл бұрын

Wtf, I had to google this, I thought it was a joke! 😂

@ineednochannelyoutube5384

3 жыл бұрын

Lol.

@elias_xp95

3 жыл бұрын

You just wrote this stuff tho...

@anarsehole

3 жыл бұрын

"Technoking" We were so close to having a Fabricator-General and you blew it, Elon. You blew it

@dotnet97

3 жыл бұрын

He's also just meme-ing as he usually does. Unlike this "prime citizen" shit

Templin: posts a video about the UEE. Me: Also Templin: posts a video critiquing Star Citizen's lore. Me:

@TemplinInstitute

3 жыл бұрын

We defy easy classification.

@BeepBoopFriendo

3 жыл бұрын

@@TemplinInstitute Like the mighty Platypus.

@judaegekikamen4223

3 жыл бұрын

@@BeepBoopFriendo great example

@owenparris7490

3 жыл бұрын

@@BeepBoopFriendo In my opinion, there should be a new classification for life forms called "Hell If We Know."😂

@dy031101

3 жыл бұрын

CIG has been fairly preoccupied with gameplay all this time such that not a lot has been shown about fleshing out of the universe. We are indeed told a lot of "what is", but I kinda find the "why" department wanting at times. Templin is merely asking the inevitable questions.

Maybe I missed something in the lore but my understanding was the entire reason the UEE is called "EMPIRE" and why technology stagnated is because for several hundred years humanity was a dark age of tyranny under the Messers. That's why the government is a mess and technology went through a period of stagnation.

If they want to Rome feel including a branch of government simply called "The Senate" would certainly helps. I suspect that they fleshed out the parts of government that players will be actually interacting with, i.e. the police and military, meanwhile everything else, the stuff that players probably won't encounter in game, gets lumped into a "miscellaneous" pile.

"High General is a dumb title. Should go with something more epic and interesting, like... Lord Solar." - Not a WH40K fan

@asymsolutions

2 жыл бұрын

Lord General Militant?

@LAV-III

2 жыл бұрын

Lord commander could work

@dylanchouinard6141

2 жыл бұрын

@@LAV-III What about High Commander? Commander-in-Chief? Wait a minute?

Me: Been playing Star Citizen for years Also Me: "Wait this game has lore?"

@Alertacobra12

3 жыл бұрын

Same

@rs.c.o2997

3 жыл бұрын

and a really good lore. if you can read it do it

@jarigustafsson7620

3 жыл бұрын

No, it's actually a quickstart guide.

@DaroriDerEinzige

3 жыл бұрын

"Playing"? I mean, until last year or so, it wasn't more than a Tech Demo and still it hasn't that much features in it besides of "Kinda space travel/space battle in smaller groups", "mining", "running around in smaller groups". Or are there already the whole "Hundreds of Players can fight each other, Ships can be captured and whole Planets brought to their Knees"-Stuff in it?

@RaidnAlexander

3 жыл бұрын

That's the beauty of it. You don't have to know the lore. You don't even have to know there IS lore. That's your choice if you choose to be a historian. You enter the 'Verse, you do what you want. No lore to hold you back or get bogged down in.

Don't forget that the anchors used in both real world insignia shown are "foul anchors", anchors which have become intertwined with their cables. This is often taken to mean steadfastness and hope in times of tribulation.

Good video. The whole empire ideology was spurred from the results of the two Tevarin wars (humanity's first war against aliens) and the people recognizing Messer as a hero/savior. This allowed him to get the powerful role and setup titles for his family as the population saw him as the protector of humanity against the unknown threat of the extraterrestrial. I'm far from an expert in the lore, but I could see how this could band humanity into the type of government in star citizen. Keep in mind, the messers were over thrown like 100 yrs ago, so society is still recovering & reforming from that family rule structure that was in place for a few hundred years.

The official Russian Emperors title in russian was "Imperator"

@neine999

3 жыл бұрын

Yes. What happened to that guy again?

@nbewarwe

3 жыл бұрын

@@neine999 Imperator was changed to Weperator

@bruhbruh4329

3 жыл бұрын

Was being the operative word

@Lightman0359

3 жыл бұрын

And ironically, the Roman Emperor's title was not. "Imperator" was an honorific granted a Consul/General by his legions for a military victory and meant "give this hero a parade" because it allowed the Imperator to enter Rome under a Triumph with his troops to be honored [otherwise, without permission from the Senate, the army had to be disbanded before crossing the border into the core of the republic/empire, at the Rubicon River]. Caesar's [and Pompey's to deal with him] title was Dictator, the equivalent of "emergency powers" that many Presidents and Prime Ministers can invoke with the approval of the Legislature. It lasted a predetermined amount of time, usually until the current situation was dealt with, or 6 months, whichever came first, and granted sweeping powers to the Dictator [who could basically speak laws into being] related to the emergency [we don't care how you do it Pompey, just stop Caesar]. Caesar had 1 other title that when combined with being declared Dictator lead to his complete takeover: Pontifex Maximus or high priest. Caesar had the authority to make up holidays and declare them to stop time sensitive votes from happening.

@levishaun8334

3 жыл бұрын

@@louisduarte8763 no. The "Third Rome" is pretty much just a historical name for an ideology dominating Imperial Russia's policies of XVIII-XIX century aimed at making Russia into one of religious captials of the world. By "Rome" it means Byzantine Empire, not the ancient one.

The Imperator is just an alternate timeline where Kanye wins.

@supermaximusfagetti9836

3 жыл бұрын

But Jesus is king

@adolfwasrite7009

3 жыл бұрын

Hail Victory.

@jaxkommish

3 жыл бұрын

Wait... he didn't?

@jghifiversveiws8729

3 жыл бұрын

@@jaxkommish Nah. I hear he was beaten by some old-fart.

@matchesburn

2 жыл бұрын

"an alternate timeline where Kanye wins" ...Alternate? Don't count your chickens before they hatch, son, we got some time left and Kanye isn't that old.

The Nova tank (interior waste aside) looks like it'd be a good low-gravity tank. The size and bulk don't really matter in low gravity environs so much allowing you to fit a much larger gun, but honestly the concept of a low-gravity tank is so niche that I don't think a governmental body would worry too much about it without some form of contractor corruption.

@RavenWolffe77

Жыл бұрын

The Nova is actually kind of an IFV. It has jumpseats for a (very) small Fireteam, which considering the small-unit nature of ground combat in Star Citizen/Wing Commander makes perfect sense; Large infantry formations are not effective or safe when Ortillery can remove entire grid squares in an instant. Static targets are dead targets, and large targets are easy to spot and focus on. So, a small 3-4 man team can move with the tank, screening for infantry and clearing HAB structures. If and when a larger infantry presence is required (likely after friendlies have gained orbital superiority) , a dedicated APC like the Spartan can roll up, covered by a Nova's guns, to deploy larger units of infantry for occupation, more thorough clearing of buildings, etc.

@chrisking574

11 ай бұрын

Zzz ellil Oo

@chrisking574

11 ай бұрын

I’m

@zerolegacy7821

10 ай бұрын

Now just imagine what would happen if a large scale explosion (say from another "tank" or some ground ordinance) went of under a tank... in low gravity. The result is probably why low gravity tanks would ultimately make zero sense.

@reganator5000

6 ай бұрын

​@@zerolegacy7821 Thats... not how gravity works. The mass of a tank is exactly the same on the moon as on earth- it's still almost certainly easier to accelerate some form of penetrator to sufficient speeds to damage the tank than to actually move the tank sufficiently (if you can move the entire tank around 5mph, you're probably driving the tank). It'd have implication for traction in response to recoil, certainly, but they are unlikely to turn over. Also, moving back to invertable tanks is probably more feasible in low gravity, as the seat-belt situation would be less uncomfortable when strapped in upside down than it was when they were first invented.

I'd say that the most likely reason that the UEE has a lot more authoritarian elements (merged policing and judiciary, no civilian oversight of the military, jumbled parties, etc.) is that they are remnants of the older Imperial system, and were only kept in place likely due to having to make deals with those previous elements as not to completely cause a collapse post-revolution.

My god those emblems. Designer: "What do you want the military emblems to look like?" Game Director: "IDK, just throw some random shapes together or something, its not important."

@uncannyvalley2350

3 жыл бұрын

So, much like today.

@sethb3090

2 жыл бұрын

@@uncannyvalley2350 Nah, today they have to pass approval from traditionalist military people

@uncannyvalley2350

2 жыл бұрын

@@sethb3090 you must not have seen many flags

@robinwolf7809

2 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the current US Army's go to logo for shirts, advertising, patches, etc....

@sccojake

2 жыл бұрын

@@robinwolf7809 yeah I'll grant that the US Army hasn't had any (official) interesting creative design choices in at least 2 decades.

You know what would be a cool way to show advanced infrastructure, and new-age technology being incorporated into real cities? Show how that tech helps with the limited space in those cities. A big issue in large cities is how limited available space to develop is. This sort of thing would be extremely visible and easy to incorporate into the art, whether it was floating promenades or huge canyons of stone and steel stretching upwards towards the sky.

@domehammer

3 жыл бұрын

Also how sci-fi technology helps a city still exist in future. Since a lot of coastal cities just won't exist in a few hundred years due to sea level rising.

@travissmith2848

3 жыл бұрын

Doing Earth is a long ways off yet... But, would spacecraft like thruster helping to stabilize 5km tall metal skinned buildings utilizing many of the same systems a starship uses work?

@miobro2901

2 жыл бұрын

If you look at the city Scape it brings up a interesting point how do people live in the cities most of them forcefully limit there space when there fucking deserts bloody deserts but they still underbuild there Cities

Not only is the Nova tank absurdly large. it's designed with so many shot traps...

@phantam23

Ай бұрын

It's a very very silly looking tank, but reading up about it's capabilities it does make more sense when you consider the three energy shield generators and the fact that it was designed for a war against aliens that predominantly used hover technology. Less going hull down and more elevating the gun to pop low flying drop ships and whatever hover vehicles the Tevarin used.

In defense of the insignia, you could imagine a future society foregoing historical symbolism and emotion for simple, recognizable symbols. For example, if he hadn't said so, I would never know the first comparison was a symbol of the U.S. Army, but I immediately recognized armed forces vibes on the UEE's symbol without having to see 'ARMY' in big print or reading on Wikipedia for what all the elements represent.

@TheRealFernancoTachanka

9 ай бұрын

It looks at least to me more like badges, those on the sleeve along serial numbers but you do have a point. I just personally prefer the more intricacies of the CRN or the BMC

Good lord, after all this years, the speech displayed in the Intro is still atrociously bad...Sounds like it was written by an edgy teenager with nick xXDarkNinjaXx.

@spacedoutorca4550

3 жыл бұрын

My thoughts exactly. Voice acting’s not bad tho.

@levishaun8334

3 жыл бұрын

@@spacedoutorca4550 "voice acting" yeah, but considering it's mocapped and it's Gary fucking Oldman, the performance is just abysmal. Dunno if he was tired as fuck or underpaid, but that's painful.

@SleutelbosMusic

3 жыл бұрын

Mark Hamill even got the name of the game wrong when he last mentioned it. It is just a bland project for them that solely exists because Chris Roberts wants to say he worked with A-list actors. Watch Wing Commander the Movie for more terrible cringe.

@Kalckie

3 жыл бұрын

@@levishaun8334 From what I have read, the script and the directions given by Chris Roberts during shooting were really poor. Gary Oldman is one of the greatest actors of our time and the fact that even *HE* cannot make this work is saying something about Star citizen writing.

@levishaun8334

3 жыл бұрын

@@Kalckie yeah, you can't do much if the script is dogshit and the director (as a director) is only known for one meme of a movie. I think our old buddy Chris doesn't know how it works. Hey, I hired a great actor, all is good, now holywood magic time, - but he actually believes that it's magic.

Oh dear mother of God. This is not gonna be pretty.

@ah0mamy

3 жыл бұрын

I had to stop and get some tea and snacks after seeing the run time on this, Dis gun bee gud

@lusar626

3 жыл бұрын

It was not pretty

@tronmaster5704

3 жыл бұрын

@@lusar626 I know. I actually watched the whole video.

@Lyamecron

3 жыл бұрын

@@tronmaster5704 quite honestly it was a massacre

@AkatsukiBoss13

3 жыл бұрын

Especially not if word gets out to the SC White Knights.

“Imagine if the head of your country announced tomorrow that they had decided to change their title to emperor” *looks at the Reichstag* Give it another 15 years. We already repeated the Spanish Flu... From Captain to leader is impossible... *looks at Hitler and coughs* *Looks at Stalin and coughs*

@sethb3090

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't say impossible, he said it made no sense to go from minor military hero/captain to five star general in two years, followed by transition to Prime Citizen and then Imperator within months. For this kind of thing to happen, people need to be pulling for you from the beginning and obstacles need to be actively removed. Just a cult of personality isn't enough to do it. Compare, for example, Teddy Roosevelt, who started out wealthy/privileged and took about 15 years to become president after making a name for himself. Even Hitler took roughly 18 years to complete his ascension from decorated soldier to chancellor. (I mention Teddy Roosevelt because he was extremely charismatic and came closer than anyone else to successfully becoming president without support from any political party.)

@archiraph1548

2 жыл бұрын

Hitler wasn't called an Emperor. The problem is more about the title than about the powers implied. He had his "fuhrer" nickname and was technically Chancellor and President, but never Emperor. Plus it took him (and Stalin) a lot of years to get there

@kjj26k

2 жыл бұрын

*Looks at GEORGE WASHINGTON and wheezes*

@kjj26k

2 жыл бұрын

Or how 'bout fuckin' Napoleon or CEASAR!

@jurassicpeter

2 жыл бұрын

I'm "happy" to tell you, we've also started to repeat the "Insane maniac trying to conquer european nations" part of history aswell.

I am revisiting this video. Much of what you say here is contingent on extrapolating present prejudices. The term empire may not always retain pejorative or negative connotations (we still have the Empire of Japan). Napoleon probably raised a few eyebrows by calling himself First Consul after the French Revolution, even though aping the Classical World was already 400 years old at that point. However, I do agree with you that the lore is pretty sparse and shallow - but not as sparse and shallow as the game is now.

@pendragon0905

2 жыл бұрын

Actually, Japan simply calls itself the Japanese State.

@chobai9996

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the lore isn't fully complete yet because they don't want to block their creative team into being forced to create everything as detailed by the lore people. If they, say, described a ship in major detail, then the design guys would have to build that ship. If the lore team talked about a planet with floating islands held up by magnetism, then the planetary tech team would have to build it. This stifles creativity in a sense, and locks people into tasks. So, they only add in new lore when there's an actual game reason for it

yea pretty much, the flags themselves particularly annoy me since they look more like corporate logos than the emblems of a nation, I have more backstory behind the blocky ass shape I picked from a list when making my flag in stellaris

@aetranm

3 жыл бұрын

Even corporate logos have symbolism and significance to them, they literally look like those stickers that come with cheap plastic toys.

@mezarisage6055

3 жыл бұрын

@@aetranm Depends, some good ones can have I admit, but there are also many that don't.

@witnessfox3509

3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure my faction of 'The Hierarchy of Big Dave the long' had more backstory than this.

@uncannyvalley2350

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, cos corporate rule of Nations is totally unrealistic........ ..........

@wannabehistorian371

3 жыл бұрын

I mean I’ve seen the Japanese prefectural flags favorably compared to corporate logos before...

"I made thsi ficcional goberment ineficient to show how goberment is ineficient" Has the same energy of "jokes on them i was just pretendending to be an idiot"

@fancyfish4094

3 жыл бұрын

Dude, what kind of language are you speaking in?

@anarquia201

3 жыл бұрын

@@fancyfish4094 i got a shitty keyboard

@crimson_scum7129

3 жыл бұрын

@@anarquia201 Thame

@legojay14

3 жыл бұрын

@@anarquia201 i legit thought that was some kind of mocking phrasing

@maniacalhun1426

3 жыл бұрын

cheems posting

Plot twist: The rebellion against Messer's regime was because the madman outlawed pineapple pizza.

@smiglo112

3 жыл бұрын

That's just stupid. Now if it was the other way around and he made pineapple a mandatory part of a pizza then yeah I can see that happening.

@ClassicMagicMan

2 жыл бұрын

@@smiglo112 Reverse uno: It's because of both reasons.

@ashishchoudhary6982

2 жыл бұрын

@@ClassicMagicMan pffffff that was a good one

@paxromana5834

Жыл бұрын

"No pineapple on your pizza? How about no head on your fucking shoulders!?"

LMAO "did anyone make it this far into the video?" Even though this was playing in the back about a game I don't play or care for I was still paying attention so it seems. I'm actually shocked, you guys are clearly doing a great job. Keep it up.

All those UEE logos look like shabby Create-A-Team logos in old EA Sports games lmao 🤣 😆 😂

@ThatDamnDoughboy

3 жыл бұрын

Roberts striking back after the Origin acquisition by EA.

Having the military be it's own branch of the government is something I can buy in a futurist dictatorship.

@florianh.6256

3 жыл бұрын

But "branch" implies quite the independant structure. If there is no "senate" oversight and they just get money to do whatever they seem fit, this is inerently unstable. The main problem is really the timespan here. If the military earns money on its own (i.e. exploiting planets) there will come people around to rebel (as they have the means to do so in money+military power). If they just take money from civil income there will be friction between the military and the executive branch. To think this can be somewhat stable (aka no major fallouts in history) for 400 or so years is just not within any reasonable expectation. You may get away with this premise when the imperator is some guy that can decimate 100s of soliders with a handwave. But how do you keep the real power a military has in check if they are not inherently under some form of oversight?!

@thorclappingthunder2439

3 жыл бұрын

@@florianh.6256 Why are people ignoring the full lore of Star Citizen? The UEE isn't some loved government without flaws in the lore, people all over hate them and there are rebels. Yeah, an empire like that would have push back, and it does, so where's the problem?

@uncannyvalley2350

3 жыл бұрын

SC critics always think they know everything about a game they're obviously not familiar with. You can't know SC and not fall in love

@neolexiousneolexian6079

2 жыл бұрын

How does Turkey work?

@puntoni5440

2 жыл бұрын

So...state capitalism?

Damage being done to buildings by air pollution is a real concern. It's especially common in buildings made of stone; for example, ancient Greek structures; thanks to the air pollution in Athens, friezes on the outside of buildings are wearing away at a frightening rate. One of the proposed solutions is indeed to encase the buildings in some kind of protective bubble. While concrete and steel are generally not as badly affected, it's quite conceivable that in the next 900 years there could be some new form of air pollution that _does_ damage concrete.

Just FYI - the crown in our Navy emblem is the crown of the *Canadian* throne. Just because it currently happens to resemble the crown of the English throne, because the Queen of Canada and the Queen of England happen to be the same person, does not mean that it's the English crown. If the UK overthrew their monarch tomorrow, Elizabeth II would still be the Queen of Canada, and we'd require some major constitutional reform to change that, although typically, the Crown's authority is represented by the Governor General federally, and the Lieutenant Governors provincially (we're a confederation). And the Monarch of Canada is the commander of our armed forces; not the Prime Minister. :)

the fact that your checklist for military sci-fi included "pineapple pizza outlawed under penalty of torture" made me lmao -also "space Soviet Union" literally exists in my own sci-fi universe-

@PremierRikLatyeskov

3 жыл бұрын

@Mungo McGhee hi

@everythingsgonnabealright8888

3 жыл бұрын

As an avid reader of soviet sci-fi - Space Soviets are rad af

@phalanx3803

3 жыл бұрын

the pineapple on pizza joke is getting old if you take it seriously then you have a mental problem pineapple has bean on pizza since pizza was a thing deal with it.

@loneneotank.5687

3 жыл бұрын

Yes comrade.

@shoebilly824

3 жыл бұрын

@@phalanx3803 i feel like most havent tried it, me included. Might be good idk.

me: If we don't win, we die. Crowd: cheering

@neolexiousneolexian6079

2 жыл бұрын

Khorne will be so pleased!

@Maclennon

Жыл бұрын

We must move forward, not backward; upward, not forward; and always twirling, twirling, twirling towards freedom!

@raphmaster23

10 ай бұрын

Isn't that kind of the point considering that the Vanduul slaughter every human being when they take a planet?

As a world builder Id be very curious to see your entire list of things you check against! See how many of my own worlds pass the test.

Have you considered doing a reimagining of the world of Star Citizen like you did with the First Order?

The guy in the beginning straight up sounds like one of the Geriatric High lords of Terra from 40k TTS.

Bootja really nailed how cringeworthy the dialog is, how Roberts managed to get that out of Gary Oldman is jaw dropping.

@AmbientSounds205

3 жыл бұрын

Only Gary Oldman can make those lines not forever sleep worthy

I like how in that clip you have to open the video we have the 'winged anchor' emblem on the guy's tunic. That's not an incredible Navy icon, but as far as things go it's decent, it at least makes it clear visually what branch it's for.

"Imagine if your country was renamed to [your country here] Empire." ...I'm British. Our entire political establishment is weirdly nostalgic and apologetic for the old Empire, that shit would be celebrated.

@thehighground3630

2 жыл бұрын

Your empire was dope.

@MoonatikYT

2 жыл бұрын

@@thehighground3630 no it was pretty horrible actually

@thehighground3630

2 жыл бұрын

@@MoonatikYT I beg to disagree. I mean we put in one hell of an effort to destroy it but it was still cool as fuck.

@MoonatikYT

2 жыл бұрын

@@thehighground3630 who's "we"

@seekingabsolution1907

2 жыл бұрын

@@thehighground3630 it wasn't we murdered and starved more people than any other empire in world history. The casualties in our 400 year administration of India being the biggest source of casualties but by no means the only one. We basically did what we did to Ireland but longer and harder.

Templin: "I don't think its going to be fashionable again to oppress indigenous peoples" China: "says you"

@pennyforyourthots

3 жыл бұрын

Implying that it ever stopped in developed nations

@bryce4724

3 жыл бұрын

who said oppress? past is the past i dont care what happened back then cos its not involving me now.......LONG LIVE THE QUEEN all honesty if i look at it i go was my colture almost whiped out? yes, so dose that mean i can change the past? nope, well then no point getting my panties in a knot over that cos lets be real.... it could have been worse and i could have been born in a worse place

@ashlevrier

3 жыл бұрын

yah is world view is very small. china is a empire.

@dexexmachinatu4151

3 жыл бұрын

The nations that still do them has never stopped. Imo they merely kept their own fashion sense.

@writershard5065

3 жыл бұрын

The world may still be doing it, but it isn't "fashionable" to be doing so. A lot of countries hide it, or pretend it never happened. -Some- do say that it's perfectly valid, but those people are usually considered to be on the fringes of society.

I think, for me, the universe of Star Citizen is supposed to be something of a generic, blank slate meant to be built upon by the players once it reaches a finished state (whenever the hell that is). The history of the UEE gives a backdrop and some justification for player factions to form and create the history themselves. If and when this thing is finished, you're not going to be hearing about people's experiences with NPC governments or raiders. You're going to hear how one coalition of players duked it out with another over mining rights in a particular asteroid patch, or how one band of mercenaries managed to board and capture their rival's capital ship against all odds. I'm imagining narratives similar to the Halloween War in EVE Online on a more personal scale. So yes, a lot of things about Star Citizen's background make no sense, but it will more than likely be overshadowed by the lore the community builds up around itself.

@buragi5441

3 жыл бұрын

You are giving the devs too much credit, the game won't be like EVE Online at all when it comes to player driven politics, that would require making the game a full on sandbox (meaning full on basebuilding and mining entire planets) and that is just not possible in the scope of SC. 100 handcrafted systems just doesn't lend itself well to EVE type of gameplay.

@Demozo_

3 жыл бұрын

@@buragi5441 There is full on base building though?

@aetranm

3 жыл бұрын

@@Demozo_ Depends on what you mean. I think you might be misunderstanding the kind of game that it is. If you're talking about player-built structures and infrastructure, then yes, that powers almost the whole game economy. If you're talking about first-person structure building like Subnautica or NMS, no.

@Shamrock627

3 жыл бұрын

Theres already something that happened in the live universe that was added into the official games lore called The Jumptown Wars. It was a small outpost on a moon that manufactured drugs that were selling for a really high price in some places and had no cap on the amount that they would buy. So the area became heavily trafficked and with cargo vessels full of drugs started becoming a common sight...so did pirates, or rival traders who are now mad youve bought all the stock and theyre out of luck. It created factions and uneasy truces between individuals and orgs, and a battle zone large enough that the devs noticed and it was made a cannon event with its own story that now exists as the main theme of the settling of Stanton by the UEE. This video was low effort, and it shows.

@aetranm

3 жыл бұрын

@@Shamrock627 Except JT isn't part of the worldbuilding. It's neat that they recognized it, but it doesn't change a thing about how lazy and cheap the universe itself is.

A counter to the "Empire" issue. I could see humanity switching to viewing empire in a positive light again if enough poor interactions with aliens occured for a deep xenophobia to take place. In which case, a stable human dominion over alien races would probably be seen in a positive light.

I agree with you on most things, except the technology part. We have increased out technology logarithmically recently, yes; But we will run up against the laws of physics. You can only make steel/aluminium/titanium structures so high. You can only accelerate particals to a certain speed - for a given energy. You can only shrink functioning electronics to [say] the molecular level, wherein it becomes as dense in 'information' as possible. At some stage, we will reach a period where we can only advance in, at best, an inverse log rate. Yes, we can use technology/science in new ways. But that is advancement sideways, not forward. Not forever.

"It is impossible to describe what can happen in 1000 years in the time I have available." *looks at time stamp* 20 minutes left in the video Bill Wurtz can spot you on this one

I cant help but think the UEE logo is more of a footbal league than a nation.

I would object to the first point a bit, as changes in external environment can quickly change public opinion about terminology. A somewhat minor example would be how the president of Belarus referred to himself as a dictator (without an overly high amount of domestic criticism) in an occasion. In the grand scheme of things, our viewpoints change quickly especially if the time scale is on centuries... And it is simply prejudice to use our current standard to judge something this fickely.

The government in 11:45 seems to be modeled on imperial government of Han dynasty China, with the Chancellery (Executive), the Imperial Secretary (Impeachment, Petitioning), the Grand Commandant (Handles the military). Though in this case, the role of the single chancellor is replaced by a group of congressmen.

I'm going to grow old and retire before they release this game

@Underb00t

3 жыл бұрын

Star senior citizen!

@roaringbeardragon4531

3 жыл бұрын

Wow what an original comment

@Underb00t

3 жыл бұрын

Still waiting for that corsair tho. I likey that ship

@madladdicus

3 жыл бұрын

You know, that's the first time I've ever heard someone say that.

@Solaxe

3 жыл бұрын

@@roaringbeardragon4531 ikr? comedy gold /s

The best united human standards I have seen to date is of the empire from Asimov's novels. Stylized rocketship on the background a stylized star. Its never even shown depicted, juat described in text, and yet I guaruantee imagining we all picture something similar. And that makes it perfect as an iconic representation.

Re: The Naming thing - I can see the idea of an Empire becoming less negative and more positive again in a period of intense instability - Empires still have a 'feel' of stability to them and if people are struggling with the basics like food security, security in general, water security, etc, etc, I can see the idea of an authoritarian but effective government appealing - i.e. "Well there are books I can't read anymore but my kids now have food and water and somewhere safe to sleep at night, so I can tolerate the empire". We sort of see this in Caesar's legion in the fallout universe - a firm hand but with generally predictable rules, whilst not ideal, is approved of by some people in a time of extreme uncertainty. That said, yeah, the Roman names are abit too on the nose.

I think the reason why it might be such a basic hierarchy is that they actually want to implement it, please don't push them to make it more intricate! XD

@zerolegacy7821

10 ай бұрын

There's no way a basic hierarchy would work spread out across dozens (if not hundreds) of star systems. Think about that a bit...

@Man_Aslume

4 ай бұрын

​@@zerolegacy7821 NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

@Man_Aslume

4 ай бұрын

​@@zerolegacy7821 NOT HERSHEY'S

Love your point about autocratic regimes going out of their way to not be seen as dictators. Best example is Octavian Augustus Caesar referring to himself as Princeps (first among equals) rather they trying to touch the term Emperor, King, or Rex.

@kristijanmadhukar516

3 жыл бұрын

that moment when you try to not be called an emperor and your name becomes synonymous with it. task failed successfully.

@steve8610

3 жыл бұрын

Interestingly, the title of emperor was (beginning with Rome) taken up in much the same way that president was; king has, at various periods in time, become a buzzword that triggered people. Augustus wasn't a king (rex), he was the imperator (which was basically an honorific military title that held none of the implications that it does now). Napoleon became emperor for similar reasons, as a direct consequence of the French Revolution and the disdain that had existed for the title (keep in mind, this was like, only 200ish years ago; it was only after the World Wars, specifically the first, that imperialistic government became stigmatized). Nowadays, the titles have taken the reverse course; king and queen are considered tame due to their long history of either tempered or entirely ceremonial powers, while emperor and empress are seen in much the same way that king and queen were a few hundred years ago. That being said, I do think alluding to kings, or monarchs in general, ruling due to divine right is over-generalized and greatly inaccurate. Kings existed all around the world, and the majority governed due to their ability to seize power from their rivals and establish hegemony over their compatriots. To say that the concept of kings is dependent on religion is not just wrong, it flies in the face of how powerful families attain power in the first place.

@dirckthedork-knight1201

3 жыл бұрын

@@steve8610 Agreed fully

@frankg2790

3 жыл бұрын

@BenjaminTheRogueI agree. Not everyone is gonna have the same opinions on titles, especially not in the future.

My country rebrands itself as empire. The World: You tried this *TWICE* and look how it worked out for you. Me: *Shrugs and puts on Stahlhelm* Empress Angela the First wants her coronation at Versailles and that´s "alternativlos", so see you at the Somme.

@HolyknightVader999

3 жыл бұрын

French or German?

@McMoerder

3 жыл бұрын

@@HolyknightVader999 Hmm... "Stahlhelm", "Empress Angela", "alternativlos"... i'd say hes spanish!

@HolyknightVader999

3 жыл бұрын

@@McMoerder But there's only been one Spanish Empire. And there's been THREE German Empires, not two.

@McMoerder

3 жыл бұрын

@@HolyknightVader999 Doesnt matter, Angela wills it! The forth time is the charm!

@inquisitorwalmarius6650

3 жыл бұрын

@@McMoerder until The red tide from Copenhagens universities are storming berlin with Frederiksen at vacation in israel orchestrating it all from the shadows.

"The No Goofy aliens" really got me lmao

I gotta know what was going on in that video played when talking about Senates. Also, what you described with the tank and shell bouncing into the turret, those are called "shot traps", kinda for obvious reasons. It is because of shot trapping that the British managed to disable Tiger 131.

While I agree with most of your points (and it's actually prompted me to go back and revise my own sci-fi worldbuilding), I'd argue that a few of your issues, especially with the ship/tank design, aren't problems with the lore, but game design concessions. The Nova tank has so much empty interior space because players need to be able to navigate inside it using the established metrics and animations. All the ships in Star Citizen are oversized for their crew complement and function because gameplay is prioritized over realism. I'd also argue that a lot of the concept art you've based your critique on has to be taken with a massive grain of salt, since it was developed before the game's aesthetics were finalized, and concept work was still being outsourced to freelancers. I expect the Earth cities in the final game will look VERY different to the concept art we have right now. And an Independent won the election because players were allowed to elect the next Imperator, and they voted for the one that seemed to promise the most interesting future gameplay. Whether or not the devs should have even offered an independent candidate is another matter, though.

@novak5757

3 жыл бұрын

I feel like it should be noted that organic history rarely makes sense... sure you can make a synthetic history for world building, but real humans are unpredictable. Best examples I have on mind is the australian was against the Emus, Emperor Nero apointing his horse as an advisor Or that mad lad who led a indian uprising against the spanish, had his arms cut off, then strapped two swords to his stumps and led a second uprising So if anything i find Star Citizens Lore TOO predictable. It rides too much on narrative cause and effect where the good guy always wins. When in reality thats not the case.

@dustycarrier4413

3 жыл бұрын

Frankly, I find it not *too* impossible that an independent would win. We don't know the actual voting methods for this future society. We also don't know if it actually is a two party state. It could be a multi-party state, but with two plurality parties.

@j-pbelliveau4439

3 жыл бұрын

The tank's interior would make sense on a planet without breathable air.

@MarioSantos-zx4bj

3 жыл бұрын

@BenjaminTheRogue if you want a good player led desicion and how it was made, look at how they chose a fan-made faction for endless legend

@Damdidamdamdam

3 жыл бұрын

@@j-pbelliveau4439 not really. Air would be compressed in gas cylinders.

When naming my own faction, i like the word Empire, because it is such a strong word with such connotations that work incredibly well in 4E games

@doublem1354

3 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, 4E: EXTERMINATE EXTERNINATE EXTERMINATE, and last but not least: EXTERMINATE

@Man_Aslume

4 ай бұрын

When describing the factions that are fucking incompetent on purpose, their whole strategy is attack when they are losing

@Man_Aslume

3 күн бұрын

What the hell was I rambling about

38:15 Actually that was the case for most of history and to a certain extent still today. Pretty much all cities in Europe and the US had air that would stain and corrode buildings but you can compensate for that by maintenance. It's also why if a city falls onto hard times economically it shows very fast cause it means that maintenance stops.

I honestly agree with almost everything in here. However, the section about the Nova tank rustled my jimmies, especially as I watch this after the tank has been released into the game and is playable. Check out the video by STLyoungblood about the Nova where he also included the opinions of an actual tanker with a lot of experience in the Abrams. Overall it's a decent tank design, and a lot can change over time when it comes to priorities in tank design. Being a Swede myself, I know we were slammed and are still slammed by everyone for designing a tank without a turret like it would be absolutely useless. The S tank turned out phenomenal. A good point that came up in STL:s video is that the Nova acts not only as an MBT but also as an APC hence the extra space

"Pineapple pizzas outlawed under penalty of torture" Literally read that as I pulled my first piece of pineapple pizza out of the box, guess I'll be tortured then.

@sundayridetexas416

3 жыл бұрын

Viva la Pineapple Pizza Resistance!!

@jamesdunn581

3 жыл бұрын

It's so worth it though.... :) Pineapple pizza lovers unite!

@homeygfunkoffacherryfruitl4971

3 жыл бұрын

There's a pizza party going down at the capitol tonight. We're gonna storm it and put pineapple on all the pizza. You in comrades?

@ckmbyrnes

3 жыл бұрын

Always a good standard to build a civilization on.

@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527

3 жыл бұрын

Aye. Pineapple pizza is wonderful

the problem with SC is too much of it is just, "oh this sounds cool, lets add that in somehow" without putting any thought into things.

@uncannyvalley2350

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, how dare they do, things, creative stuff, art etc?

@WELLbethere

3 жыл бұрын

@@uncannyvalley2350 creative is when you put everything together in a way that makes sense.

@dragonbornexpress5650

Жыл бұрын

@@uncannyvalley2350. There's creativity and then there is stupidity; There's a difference between the two.

@uncannyvalley2350

Жыл бұрын

@@dragonbornexpress5650 then there's nobodies like you who think their opinions are facts

@uncannyvalley2350

Жыл бұрын

@@WELLbethere what have you put together that you're the expert?

Where he says that it‘d take 30-40 years to get from soldier to general, I remembered how exceptions can be made in wartime, where privates can obtain the rank of general instantly if they’re fit and able for the rank

@TemplinInstitute

2 жыл бұрын

that is not true at all.

@comradehellfire2095

2 жыл бұрын

@@TemplinInstitute I do recall something like that happening before, though if that’s the case it must’ve been a different rank, I apologise

I agree for the most part. world building wise SC doesnt make much sense. However SOME of the fighters are designed in such a way that i think they are probably my fav out of any universe. The anvil hornet imo is one of the most realistic near future fighters that has been designed. Takes into account the space "object in motion stays in motion" thing. Etc, i just really like it. I wish more universes took into account actual physics when designing space ships.

Y'know I must say that "there's not enough technological advances" really isn't that much of a problem for me. I don't find it that unlikely that many of our technologies might stagnate to a certain degree

@BlackBanditXX

3 жыл бұрын

Even some of the most stagnant centuries in Western history saw significant technological advances, ESPECIALLY in military tech. Yet, I look at the UEE and see modern tech with a new skin thrown on top.

@Artemis0713

3 жыл бұрын

@@BlackBanditXX there's gonna come an end to it eventually tho

@NoMustang273

3 жыл бұрын

@BenjaminTheRogue That's why he said that it shouldn't be 900 years in the future but it should have been placed maybe 300 years or so.

@dotnet97

3 жыл бұрын

@BenjaminTheRogue the tech doesn't have to be incomprehensible to seem sufficiently far in the future, it just has to be believably different, someone from a thousand years ago would still be able to in general comprehend what our technology does ("this looks like a metal bird, people sit inside, it flies"), even if not how. SC doesn't even have a particularly strong reason for the stagnation, nothing like Elite's deep rooted fear of AI and automation, along with extremely decentralized nature holding advancements back. At most they have a few centuries under a fascist regime, yet that exact kind of regime is most capable of technological progress due to its sheer disregard for certain kind of human wellbeing.

@calebbarnhouse496

Жыл бұрын

To say not enough tech advancement when there tech is millennium beyond what we actually think we'll be by this time, there are estimates we won't be able to even colonize other solar systems for centuries, let alone reach anywhere close to FTL

Possible fix: the war went badly wrong and nearly destroyed mankind and specifically destroyed the government. After that our imperator arose as the war hero that narrowly saved mankind and took over what was left. Even now they want to honour this hero and therefore they didn't destroy all the reminders even though the imperial family was ousted. That might give the apparant inconsistencies in the government.

@AndrewDavid84

3 жыл бұрын

But that is what happened in lore, templin got it wrong

@mindliss92

3 жыл бұрын

Even then. Like the roman Republic has a more indepth and intricate government than the UEE

@kriegjaeger

3 жыл бұрын

He answers his own complaints earlier in the video regarding the strange naming and dictatorial form of the democratic government around 45 minutes in but then has new complaints rather than acknowledging how this answers some earlier complaints. "Why is the government structured as though it were a dictatorship?" "The government was a dictatorship but its transfer to a democratic system is unbelievable."

@fkknsikk

3 жыл бұрын

Play Squadron 42 to own the libs.

@ktmbikes9227

3 жыл бұрын

That sounds like the imperium of mankind, and the holy emperor himself.

Would like to see your take on the Elite: Dangerous universe as well.