A number of comments have asked about using a 2.5 Gbps USB 3 Ethernet adapter instead of the PCIe switch, which would allow me to run the disks at PCIe Gen 3 speed. I tested that with a Plugable 2.5G adapter (which is plug and play on the Pi 5), and you're right! I got 270 MB/sec writes for a 50 GB test folder, and 200 MB/sec reads. Check out the GitHub issue linked in the description for all the details. This little NAS just keeps getting better :)

@gustavrsh

Ай бұрын

This is great! It's very compact as well. How do you think Pi RAM impacts on speeds?

@Faewks

Ай бұрын

Would be interesting if you could combine it with the nvme hat and boot from a nvme. Should be more reliable and faster than the micro sd card?

@automatedrussianbot8043

Ай бұрын

pi nas gonna be more expensive than buying a synology soon lol

@ragesmirk

Ай бұрын

What's the RAM usage?

@Darkk6969

Ай бұрын

@@automatedrussianbot8043 Not really. You're buying the parts that you can upgrade later.

So it's a.... NASberry Pi!

@orangejjay

Ай бұрын

I dunno, a Pinas has a better ring to it. ❤

@thedarb

Ай бұрын

@@orangejjay If it were SCSI, you could call it a SNASberry.

@haydenc2742

Ай бұрын

NASty Pi

@Melechtna

Ай бұрын

​@@thedarbDo the SNASberries taste like SNASBerries?

@thedarb

Ай бұрын

@@Melechtna Oh they totally do! :D

You gotta be careful not to say Pi NAS too quickly, lest we become confused about exactly what you're trying to build 😂

@gunsnmammons

Ай бұрын

Big pi-nas fan

@shapelessed

Ай бұрын

@@gunsnmammons Why. Just... why.

@Gamex996

Ай бұрын

binance?

@xcruell

Ай бұрын

change the "we become.." to "kids become.."

@humanbeing2730

Ай бұрын

peenus 😂😂😂

Jeff: ‘this won’t be as janky as my previous Pi NAS projects’ 20 minutes later Jeff: ‘I’m just casually spreading 4 PCBs across my desk with 3 different ribbon cables hoping that PCIe won’t break on me’ 😂

@acubley

Ай бұрын

That's not jank, it's creative chaos... /bs (it's jank...pure unadulterated jank.)

32tb NAS smaller than a brick, this is AWESOME!

@rangefreewords

Ай бұрын

(2) 20TB HDD is

@rudeskalamander

Ай бұрын

​@Googleplaybinauthority and far lower performance

@renderedpixels4300

Ай бұрын

​@@rudeskalamanderin a raid 0, the performance would be able to saturate the 2.5g link. But then no redundancy.

@wytrzeszczwytrzeszcz7739

Ай бұрын

What people do with nases that gigabit is not enough?

@rudeskalamander

Ай бұрын

@@wytrzeszczwytrzeszcz7739 I know people who play all of their movies and games off a nas

Came here for the Pi NAS, stayed for the "I MUST HAVE IT" thermal camera. That snap on lens blew me away.

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

It really is amazing for checking heat on a PCB. Love that feature.

@anonnona8099

Ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling > It really is amazing for checking heat on a PCB. Love that feature. They're also good for opening a keypad lock if you don't know the code. If you can access the lock shortly after someone has used it you know which pads they touched, and big hints about the sequence from how much each one has cooled.

@realtarun

27 күн бұрын

@@anonnona8099 do you where i can get that thermal sensor extension or how it is called pls?

@anonnona8099

24 күн бұрын

@@realtarun IHNI - it's not my video

@yngxkk

8 күн бұрын

@@realtarun it's called 'InfiRay P2 Pro', costs around 250-300$ with different lenses

Am I the only one in fierce love of these small-as-possible SSD file servers?

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

I love 'em too. Just wish they had their nice little metal case available, because I feel like that would complete this build!

@shapelessed

Ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling I would have just gone full DIY and built my own wooden case. Non-conductive material, good looking. Maybe a few perforations and some small and quiet maglev fan on top at lowest RPM to cool the entire thing.

@AngryAmericanWizard

Ай бұрын

@@shapelessed You want a conductive material. Shielding is required for consumer PC's but because this is DIY it gets missed a lot. Processors put off EMI which can cause minor interference with wifi, bluetooth, etc and can cause other issues. That is why the FCC has guidelines, it's less of an issue the less energy is used but I'd still prefer some metal lining inside the wooden case. Plus if you're building an all SSD NAS might as well and make it as EMP resistant as possible.

@shapelessed

Ай бұрын

@@AngryAmericanWizard I have already once built a similar NAS and the EMI has never yet been a problem, since the SoC only drew like 2W at highest and the drives were already shielded. But if it's such an issue, a metal mesh would probably be enough for any radiation the PI might produce. In fact, many small 4-port routers and APs commonly use plastic cases to help with signal strength, and they usually throw off more electricity into the air than the PI would.

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

@@shapelessed I'd love to get a laser cutter and design some simple wood cases that can pop together. That or acrylic... someday. For now I do 3D prints for things I deploy more permanently, I might do that with this build.

My wife is going to be pissed at me spending so much time playing with my PiNAS. Thanks Jeff.

@UncleChisel

Ай бұрын

This may be the single greatest comment 😂😂

Jeff, you are simply becoming the go-to guy in the RPI community. Best videos out there covering RPI related stuff. Awesome work. Keep it up.

@plica06

Ай бұрын

Ahm, it's been that way for years.

I've been checking thrice daily for when this would drop (as my penta hat has been in the mail for a week now). Thanks as always for the service you provide to the community Jeff!

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

Ooh I also hear Michael Klements is working on a case design for this box!

I really like the relaxed style with fewer cuts 👍

Yellow shirt Jeff breaks fins off the heat sink. Red shirt Jeff: "He took ma jarb!"

@DigitalJedi

Ай бұрын

Notice that yellow shirt Jeff still advised against doing it yourself. He's like a mellowed-out version of the real deal.

Jeff bringing back YOLO for 2024. BTW, experimental with pi builds is my favorite content on your channel. Keep them coming!

That 20 watt spike at the end of the copy was ZFS flushing the write cache of all the data you sent to write.

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

Sounds plausible! It's a lotta wattage though, must be hammering everything at once!

@RuddODragonFear

Ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling makes sense, if it's maxing out all disks and PCI bus riser at 100% CPU all cores for the checksum computations, rather than having to divide time in the PCI bus between writing bits to disks and reading from the NIC. a quick look with powertop should solve the mystery.

@virtual812

Ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling 20W is only a 1.7 amp load on that PSU I really think your 5A supply is overkill, thats 60 watts, plenty even for 2.5" mechanical drives. What we really need to know is how much power can the 12v to 5v reg on the SATA board handle, that will be the bottleneck. Plugging in a larger brick is not going to increase the capabilites of whats on the PCB.

I have a WD NAS dual drive w/ 2x 6T drives and the case software went corrupt. Can I just put those drives into another companies drive case? Thanks SUB'd

Red Shirt Jeff has Jeff's mannerisms and voice down pretty well, and is not nearly as manic as 'normal'. Gotta be careful, he might be able to take over the channel!

@yetzt

Ай бұрын

Juggling chainsaws, touching live wires, installing OMV... just Red Shirt Jeff things.

@b0ntr4g3r3

Ай бұрын

Is Yellow shirt Jeff normal? And where does blue shirt Jeff fit into this video. (Yellow 0:00 Red 23:35 Blue 30:35)

I think this was an extremely practical experiment. Also, I like to let you know that you don’t need to be practical with your experiments because I enjoy all your experiments and the more bizarre and impractical they are, the more I like them.

The year of Raspberry PI DIY NAS is getting closer and closer, I can smell it Awesome video

@tiestofalljays

14 күн бұрын

The year of the PiNAS.

Jeff, you are always very thorough & realistic. We thank you for that. Other channels, not so much. Sets you apart from others by a significant margin. Excellent video. Thx

Thanks Jeff. Exactly the project I am planning to build this year. Your tutorials and documentation are fantastic.

I love how you took something that you said was not going to be jenky like some of your Raspberry Pi 4 attempts, and ended up making it jenky anyway to get the 2.5 networking working.

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

Hehe the jank must happen!

@TechnoMasterBoy

29 күн бұрын

It was janky long before that, when he had to break off the fins on the heatsink just to fit the board that hold the SSDs.

That setup was boarder line red shirt Jeff territory lol, guess that's what you get combining 4 different manufacturers into one DIY product. Excellent documentation as always!

@RickMyBalls

29 күн бұрын

boarder line?? wtf?

hey Jeff, i recognized a problem with the GPIO pins on the RPi5, it seems, that pigpiod dosnt recognizes the Pi, this is especialy a problem for web based GPIO projects. Do you know a fix for that?

@JeffGeerling Thank you for the video... did you use the USB-C InfraRay with your iPhone? Was wondering... do you have an older iPhone with lightning to test whether a usb-c to lighting adapter would still work? Don't want to get a lighting IR cam now, knowing in September I might switch to the next (usb-c) iPhone -__- Thank you very much!

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

All of their newer cameras seem to have adapters for Lightning to USB-C (or vice-versa for the even newer models), but each camera requires a different app, and some seem to work better than others. Right now the P2 Pro is the only one I can get working with my iPhone over Lightning.

@JulianGoesPro

Ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling thank you so much for your reply! So you are actually using the adapter right now or are you using both ways (direct into the iPhone 15 and "older + adapter"), Thanks!

@JulianGoesPro

Ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling and one last question :P Is it possible to lock the temperature scale? I would love to do a Panoramic pic but want to lock the colors/temps so, let's say, 25 °C is always "X" color. Thank you so much!

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

@@JulianGoesPro Heh, that's a good question-it depends on which app/camera combo you choose. I really wish they had one app that worked with all the camera models, because each one has a different UI and I can't answer your question without it in front of me because I can't remember explicitly seeing that option!

I would love a CM5 motherboard in the future which is loaded with SATA ports and networking so that we can do these experiments all in one place...

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

Ditto!

I’d like to see a head to head with a similar priced/configured prebuilt NAS

Really loving the miniturization of these setups, size and power. It makes me wonder how well this would work in a Van. Seems like a perfect use case for portable storage on the go.

is it possible to install m.2 drives for this raspberry pie, like gen 3x4 drives, or m.2 sata drives? would this be faster than 2.5 ssds? or will it be about the same

I love this build! I have the Radxa Pi 4 Quad NAS as my home NAS right now, so once the case and cooling top HAT come out, I may upgrade. (I recently bit the bullet and backed a NAS Kickstarter for the convenience.) I wanted to check on, as well, on how you’re feeling. You look pretty good in this video, so that’s encouraging! (And, I completely understand that you’re sick of answering, “How are you feeling?” Even though people are well-intentioned, it can be a lot when everyone asks. So, feel free to ignore this question - I get it.) Thanks for sharing your experience with the new SATA HAT, though! I can’t wait to upgrade!

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

Feeling great! My new medication's been very good, minimal side effects, and I've finally had a whole year with no hospitalization... knock on wood!

@jasonkay42

Ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling Oh, that’s amazing! Great to hear it, as it’s hard to ask for more than that!

Tip : tell kernel to clear caches between measurements `sudo sync` `sudo bash -c 'echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches'`

Love listening to these in the morning, starts the day right

Wow, amazing how many among channels from the Opensauce I'm following. Makes you think! But also, those I don't recognize might be worth checking out. Thanks for the tip. Also, cool NAS (figuratively, ofc)! Thanks for sharing! :)

This is fascinating for this old man. My first computer was a Sinclair ZX-81 with a _massive_ 1k of RAM. I did buy the 16k expansion module though, so I was fine. *LOL* When I finally got a 'real' computer with a "mass" storage device, it was a PC /XT Tubo IBM clone, with an unbelievably large Seagate ST-212, 10 *meg.* (not gig) hard drive. Things have changed a bit. 😆 Thanks for the great video(s).

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

1K is good enough for everyone! :D

It's exciting to see such good results from the Penta SATA hat, I picked one up a few days ago and am working on a 3D printed enclosure for it and the Pi 5. I hadn't thought to try to add 2.5G networking, that's something that the Pi has lacked when compared to come RK3588 based SBC options.

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

Oh can't wait! Your enclosures are always ✨ Will you share the design on Printables? I would print it in a heartbeat!

@MichaelKlements

Ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling yes I'll share the design on Makerworld to print

@hoopnight4758

7 күн бұрын

Don't forget the fan

Hi @JeffGeerling. Whats the best m.2 budget friendly DIY nas options you recommend.

This, this will be my first NAS project

I was so disappointed when you were doing the file copy with the Mac and benchmarking, glad you called it out at the end of the video lol, it actually has to do with SMB protocol and Apple. AFP/NFS on a Mac for benchmarking is totally fine, cheers

@robertoguerra5375

24 күн бұрын

I think macOS does not support smb3… only smb2 I also have troubles with users and passwords Is there any complete guide to make samba or omv work 100% correctly with macOS?

Aha ! You're the reason there was a pi shortage !

I don't know what any of this is, but maybe it's an answer to my problem? I am no longer using Google Photos due to their bait and switch. So, could I use this as a way to basically do a photo sync with my phone? Or is there a better way? Thank you.

Just curious, do you have the one that uses MSATA drives, I have quite a few of those for cheap (256GB) so wondering that's worth doing.

For most home users that is more than adequate and the small size is a bonus.

Jeff, you're absolutely right. I've got an Infiray P2Pro too. The software isn't as slick as my Flir One Pro, but man, the image quality is miles better. Plus, it's a lot cheaper than Flir.🤣

@YasmainHurley

24 күн бұрын

Totally agree... but I reckon a software upgrade should fix that right up, then it'll be perfect.

@JeffGeerling

23 күн бұрын

@@YasmainHurley Hopefully... they seem to be focused on some new products this year, so I won't hold my breath for the software :(

Checked your blog as well Jeff. I'd feel quite proud achieving a such a NAS in that footprint. With a wood case perhaps even my wife would let me have it on display and brag about it. Keep on with the good work. Blessings

This takes me back to the days of when I was building NAS devices with early linux distros and random hard drives. It was basically all trial and error. Learned a ton but man, did I spin a lot of wheels just split balling to see if I could make it work. I love these "let's just see if this work" vids.

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

I'll hopefully start doing the same with some weird radio projects soon too :D Love your channel!

If your pi NAS is bottlenecked, then clearly you just need a cluster of pi NASes with a distributed file system to fix it!

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

I like the way you think lol

Jeff and Tom Stanton at open sauce.. well worth going. Except I can't nip over to the states so easy :(

I've been wondering about your Mac transfer speed comments and I thought you edit video directly from the NAS. So how does this work fast enough when scrubbing through huge files?

Do we know any detail about the cabling options that will be included in the retail product? Should the length of the included cable be too short, I assume there will be a longer option to purchase? [19:40]

Finally, Jeff's new PiNAS video. Can't wait to see his new PiNAS in action, doesn't look too hard to setup.

Hey Jeff you keep accidently using nano instead of vi(m).

This is tempting to run a Faster and More Capable NAS. Thanks for showing everything in detail, I would call that barrel jack and heatsink issue a design flaw by the HAT Manufacturer. Time to plan a Pi5 as, I currently run a small OMV based NAS on Pi3B 😅😅

I've built a NAS with this hat and Rock Pi 4B (that was long before Raspberry Pi 4 and Rock 4B does have that nvme slot with a few pcie lanes) but with 4 3.5” HDDs. Wiring them with SATA extender cables was funny, as the Chieftec chassis I've used has separate SATA data and power connectors. The 5V power supply on the hat is adequate: the datasheet for the step-down converter used on this hat specifies a maximum of 10A. So that's enough for the SBC and the drives (the 5V line is shared with SATA power). Overall a very solid and well-designed product. Too bad ARM means being limited to OpenMediaVault. It does run solid on Armbian so no quarrel here.

I don't even need to click on any links to know that it's already sold out

@lemon9.9

24 күн бұрын

Surprisingly, the sata hat isn't sold out

@lemon9.9

24 күн бұрын

More surprisingly, argon is accepting new order or raspberry pi 5 in my region

I'm not in favour of Raspberry Pi tinkering for the purpose of NAS because, I just found these ASRock N100 motherboards with built-in Intel processors. It's basically a whole mini PC on a single board, for like the same price as a decked-out Pi setup with a hard drive and all those extra hats. Think about it: No more messing with software compatibility or overheating issues. This ASRock board is a simple, low-power option that comes with everything pre-installed like sata ports. Plus, it has regular PC connections like HDMI and multiple USB ports, so you can hook it right up to your monitor and peripherals just like the pi.

@gvasilakis

Ай бұрын

What about efficiency tho

@vinsan98

Ай бұрын

@@gvasilakis about the same as whole raspberry pi setup. My N100 board consumes 8/9 watts on idle.

@cipnt

Ай бұрын

​@@vinsan98 The Pi on its own will idle at about 2W I think, so a massive difference in efficiency for an always-on device

@vinsan98

Ай бұрын

@@cipnt I don’t think raspberry pi 5 with above configuration will consume 2 watts at idle. In the video at 24:11 you can see it is consuming 8 watts idle.

@MSM5500

Ай бұрын

Yes, the RPi gets a crap by all means. My 5 (five) years old Odroid HC4 board has got both native PCIe and SATA connectors right on board just for $70.

Hi there, nice project you got there! My question is: As today, which NVMe expansion do you recommend for a RPI5? I've seen the NVMe Base Duo from PiHut but it's only 2 slots. Anything compatible with 4? Thank you in advance, and subscribed!

I'm trying to do something quite similar, but (for software/firmware and price reasons) I'm not going with the Pi, but with an RK3288 board. It doesn't have PCIe, but there's USB 3.0 available. I want to connect some hard drives to it, so I've been thinking of using either an external multi-bay case or just connecting a few USB 3.0 - SATA dongles via a USB 3.0 hub. Would the drives need cooling tho? Also, can I power to board from the USB hub? Will it be able to power down the drives while still keeping the board on?

I gotta ask, what's the performance if everything is encrypted?

@greensheen8759

5 күн бұрын

Should be the same. Samsung SSDs support encryption at the hardware level now

Linus had a pretty good video using that Rockchip NVME board. I think I like this solution being able to use 2.5" SATA drives due to cost per TB. Might have to build one of these! Well that is if and wen the Radxa boards show back up in stock.

About cooling. Create a wider space between the boards. Get a wire wrap female header. Clip the leads to make it a 2x?? spacer and get longer hex studs to separate the boards. Provides better cooling for the Pi as well. Great video.

Does this setup support hot swapping? For example, what if I have 2 SSD's and I want to add 2 more SSD's later while the NAS server is still running, without turning the server off, would this be possible?

Hey Jeff, I’m not sure what options you set up in samba but because Apple reasons there are a number of Apple specific samba options you need to set in order for SMB to be competitive on MacOS. It’s all a bit of a black art, but the main settings can make a really big difference before getting into the weird ones.

Radxa ROCK 3A was perfect for this build, 2x pcie 3.0 and 1x pcie 2.1, ideal for top board and 2.5G ethernet, SoC is limiting RAID performace, but still well over 2.5G. setup uses about 8W (I'm running this it for a while). I'm using 4A 12V for power, less waste. eSata is yet another sata for 3.5" drive. Useful for external big hdd with power. Probably You are using OMV7 which moved mdadm to external plugin. That is why there was no such thing in menu, easy to add. Btw, more interesting is quad sata hat, uses two usb3 but has HW RAID. You will get pcie for 2.5g ethernet or even almost 10G. Also You can get opposite of that. Any RK3588 is way better, support pcie bifurcation so you can get 6x sata and 10G nic, already has 2.5G, wifi slot still free (another 2.5G nic or 2x sata, or coral tpu), also eMMC is just way better than sd card. Thanks for trying active cooler wit this hat so I dont need to reassembly mine with pi5, which I wanted to swap, but due to heavy jellyfin/plex problems its just bad idea.

I was commenting about this on Twitter a few months ago. Now I actually see a sweet build here. Good Stuff.

@KarthikKumarViswanathan

18 күн бұрын

1 suggestion: slam a 3D printed case on this, so it can sit as a box and one can plug it into the router. Probably it's high time they started bundling this together.

Love it! Perfectly timed video as well as I’ve been thinking of building a compact RAID 5 NAS with nvme M.2 SSDs for the homelab and wondering daisy chaining using the HatBRICK! Commander could be an option. Looks like it might just work!

The Ultimate KZread Channel Jeff Geerling.

RSJ with a 4” grinding wheel opportunity missed.

Would adding 4 x 3.5 spinning rust require additional power / a different power input? What would happen if one or two of the drives were removed, would the additional power fry the Pi? (Hey it rhymes)

hey I looked up the power brick and it is unavailable do you have a alternative suggestion for power brick ?

Whenever you do the Pi NVR, could you do something related to how to back up the system, like the recordings to a NAS?

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

I've actually been working on that; I might only touch on backups in my first video explaining it. And that might come out next week, or the week after... finally started working on the video after having the testing done for like 2 months now lol.

@AdamHinckley

Ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling, good timing then, it would be good for you to touch on it and how to do to it, take your time on it though and do whatever is needed on it

You should pick up the Friendly Elec NAS kit with their new daughterboard. 4x NVMe 3.0 1x slots and 2.5 GBe networking, all for less than $150.

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

I have almost bought it a few times, but the total price of $180 or so including $40-50 shipping if I want it in less than a couple months keeps putting me off.

@SchoolforHackers

Ай бұрын

Oh, I’d be interested in seeing that!

That's a really nice little machine. It may become my next NAS.

Hey people, i was wondering if it was possible for me to use an orange pi 5 plus isntead of the rasberry pi 5 or Raxda rock 5, I checked the websites for the penta sata hat, and it said that it is only compatible with those two boards, and so I went to Orange pi website and found that the Pi 5 plus doesn't have the IPEX connector, so is there a way i can make my orange pi 5 plus into a server just like this one? Thanks in advance!

You're a one-man Starfleet crew. Emergency Jeff Hologram maybe? Went from Operations to Security to Medical and back to Security :D

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

Hahaha

A 2.5 gb USB 3.2 gen 1 (gotta love the USB consortium) network card may have worked, wouldn't impact the drives.

Hey man just wondering about the kernel parameter "dtparam=pciex1" if you are capable of pcie3x2 shouldn’t the parameter be "dtparam=pciex2" or am I missing something ?

Jeff is it possible use usb 2,5gb adapter for lan on pi4 and pi5?

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

You can use a USB 3.0 2.5G adapter, and that would work close to the same across Pi 4 and Pi 5.

You see the new radxa rock 5C and 5C lite? A raspberry pi 5 competitor, price is less than the pi 5 with rk 3588 (5C) or an another version without gpu and with 6 core. (5C lite)

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

They look like good options, though at the same price points, the value is a little reduced. The 5C 2GB is probably the sweet spot if you want to get into that board, and don't need more than 2 GB of RAM. The Lite model is going to be a bit more annoying in terms of overall performance and desktop use, but could work out well in places where you don't need tiny desktop performance.

@shapelessed

Ай бұрын

The issue with these PI competitors I find to be quite frequent is the utterly nonexistant software support. They either die off or shift the software support to some newer generations. There are driver issues and a bunch more problems. Sure, they are great, because they keep the PI foundation moving forward through competition, but I'd still pay a few dollars more to get a PI and a known ecosystem, with well-known and established software.

Great video, love it and you beat me to it, I'll be uploading my video later today, did the same thing with Raspberry Pi and Rock 5A.

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

Nice! I just ordered a 5C, Radxa's been making some great hardware... hopefully they can keep improving docs and support!

@TechnicallyUnsure

Ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling I completely share your sentiments. Lately, my purchases from them have consistently exceeded expectations, particularly the quality of their boards. I echo your hopes for their continuous improvement, particularly in enhancing their documentation.

I'm curious what the cpu usage was when writing? if in raid 5 or raidz1 your also calculating parity data so that could explain the less bandwidth but I wonder if its more of a processing power limitation that maybe alleviated with a tiny overclock? L:)

Wow! You could already do anything with the old raspberry pie, now it looks like you can do even more with the 5! Once again proving it's the most versatile dessert ever. Seriously though, I'd like to see this paired with a 4 bay hotswap 3.5" drive enclosure and some spinning rust drives. I'm currently in the market for replacing my Synology, and while this doesn't come close to meeting my requirements, it could definitely be an option for a tech person with lower-end needs. But a future version could be more interesting next time I'm looking for a NAS, especially looking at the trajectory of SSD prices.

NAS=200$, 4x 8TB SSD=2000$, If I had 2200$ I would have added 300$ and got something much better than RPi 5 with its all limitations.

@TevisC

Ай бұрын

You may want a very low power higher capacity NAS. I do.

@motmontheinternet

Ай бұрын

Then don't buy $500 hard drives.

@strenter

Ай бұрын

I might get the wrong impression here, but this looks about the only NAS to not only have the possible ability to fit within a big tower, but also can get powered by it.

@WhimsicalViper

22 күн бұрын

Maybe start off with 1TB and buy more later. Some things become great over time and not at once :)

@zyghom

15 күн бұрын

@@hugoleote did you read my comment? probably yes. Did you understand it? probably not ;-) - hint: "I would have added 300$ and got something much better... " - 500$ for the NAS without drives. And this is lots of money to chose something good, much much better than RPi5

As an alternative that is already here. Due to adapters, anyone can fit up to 6 ssds in a $50 Thinkpad T430 or $100 W530 if you want 32GB ram capability. To get the 6 drive capacity, you need to get 2 sata to m.2 sata x2 adapters for the main drive and cdrom replacement. Ali express sells pc card to nvme adapters so you can mount a 2230 or 2242 nvme drive in the pc card slot. Add a msata drive to the wwan slot and you are done. I'm not sure about the T430 but the W530 has raid 1, 0, 5 and 10 available through bios after 1vyRain mod.

Hey Jeff, I saw there is a USB 3 dongle that has 2.5GB on there. Would that help or cause problems to speed up the network connection?

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

Help! Check out my pinned comment :)

@DiyintheGhetto

Ай бұрын

@@JeffGeerling Haha I didn't see the pin comment. I found it by scrolling down on my phone. I been having a problem with youtube app I my phone.

How much slower would this be with a 4gb pi 5? Very interested in building this if i can get my hands on the hat in Europe.

Finally we are approaching cheap diy daily drivable ARM based NAS

@Cyber_Gas

Ай бұрын

But one of the 8tb drive ssd costs like 5 times the raspberry pi 5

@seshpenguin

Ай бұрын

@@Cyber_Gas You can find stuff like the 1.8TB Intel enterprise SSDs used for decent prices.

@mglsj

Ай бұрын

@@Cyber_Gas Can use hard drives though

@Cyber_Gas

Ай бұрын

@@mglsj yes i know but like i meant he made it so expensive

asostor just dropped 12 slot m.2 nas, I think by far the most compact nas, and for that much 800$

@theodricaethelfrith

Ай бұрын

I feel like those things are ahead of their time. Why pay €1000 for an 8TB M.2 NVMe SSD when you can get an 8TB SATA SSD for €400? Even a single SATA SSD should be able to fill a 2.5gE Ethernet uplink almost 2x over again, let alone an array of them.

@Gamex996

Ай бұрын

@@theodricaethelfrith absolutely, 8tb price is absurd, you can find 4tb for about 200$ which somewhat reasonable

@JeffGeerling, i got everything mentioned in this video apart from the Connector part that connects the two boards, could you please confirm what type of connector it is or provide a link to the connector (FFC). Please. FFC is a very broad term and shows all kinds of cables on internet, i cant find it. Please help

@JeffGeerling

8 күн бұрын

Good question; that comes with the Pi 5 version-it's a custom cable, so you have to contact Radxa to get one, I'm pretty sure

@kirmanizubair

8 күн бұрын

@@JeffGeerling Thank You so Much

As you say this is a fun experiment, thanks for the video!

Nobody: Raspberry Pi: Look what I can do 🥰

24:58 didn''t watch everything yet, but before i forget, in OMV7 the software RAID management (mdadm) was moved to the plugin "openmediavault-md", or so i've heard.

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

OOOOH... so that explains why everyone's tutorial had it listed, but it's not in there by default? Seems a bit odd to take it out and not replace it with anything else for RAID, since that's my main use case for ever using OMV. The ZFS plugin seems mature enough, they could install that by default IMO.

@nurmr

Ай бұрын

Also the documentation seemed to indicate that the drives needed to be wiped before RAID would work -- I'm not sure if that meant that the RAID option wouldn't even show up (I assume the plugin would need to be installed still though).

Thanks for the video! What is that Home Assistant card you're using to display power? I can't find one that looks quite like it

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

apexcharts-card, it's extremely handy for more advanced charts!

@neslin99

Ай бұрын

Thanks a lot!

Very glad to hear that this is using the JMB585, it's an extremely reliable controller with extensively tested Linux drivers.

I want one.

@111elf1

Ай бұрын

me two!

@MadeInJack

Ай бұрын

Me three!

3:54 what are you doing step Geerling?

Thanks for this video. I was waiting for radxa to release a NAS hat for RPI5. I was running the RPI4 version for a a few years and it work like charm(over USB3). I hope they will make a case for it like for the previous version and to make the PCI cable longer in order to cool the RPI5 with a low profile ICE Tower, I was able to reach 3400MHZ and with temps under 65c

This is a great idea! Think ill build one in the future. Great video btw, super well produced! :D

Mac lacking proper UI for moving files in 2024 is just killing me XD

@jeffGeerling what's the power consumption at idle / read / write?

Would you think it would be stable with ssd to hold the OS rather than the sd card. Was running a pi for p-ihole and one thunderstorm later the sd got corrupted. And I would be interested in a video on the CM3588. Thank you for posting this video - it is creating an itch for me to build a "small nas" for my mobile devices backups.

This video is right on time! I was just about to build a nasberry pi!

@JeffGeerling

Ай бұрын

'Nas berry :D