ACC Nordschleife is absolutely amazing

It's a bit funny how you act surprised that iRacing missing new fences and stuff, when everyone knows it's an older scan. They can't run to Germany every year and rescan this massive track, of course ACC is the most accurate because they just recently scanned it

@TheFakeIce_

Ай бұрын

Exactly what I was thinking, I've not finished the video but it seems unfair as ACC should have no faults (except the new foxhole kerb) but I do think iracing needs a new scan as it's been around 10 years

@thomasf9514

Ай бұрын

@@TheFakeIce_ I'd take a rescan and happily pay for the new version over any new track out there

@magil159

28 күн бұрын

All has been said… This video makes no sense.

@DCFHazardRebornChannel

23 күн бұрын

That is a silly thing to say. "Acc is the most accurate because it's the latest scan"..... sorry you making an excuse for something? Yes, it's a newer scan. Yes, it's more accurate... any reason for downplaying it aside from butthurt? Its not fair to compaaaaire, bluaaaa... ok then, we wont compare. Ever. To any new rendition of a track. Funny how the same tartoids would come out of the woodwork when iRacing gets a later scan to use it as a reason to compare, "omg the iracing version is so new and amazing, derp"... we should keep this comment and say something just as stupid when this happens, "well yes because its the latest scan" .... lol. And? And yes.

@svencsobanczy4094

15 күн бұрын

I mean the comparison as a hole makes no sense, if you try to compare 2 arcade sims with 2 real sims

AMS2 is missing… 😢

@d.o.5238

Ай бұрын

so is the original AC which was the first game to get a laser-scanned version of the Green Hell

@mickeilkeil

Ай бұрын

AMS2, yes, but Rfactor 2 too.

As someone who drives ACC mainly, i'm very impressed with all of them. My guess is iracing is a much older scan, and the speaker towers weren't there when it was done, but it still holds up really well. It has a lot more and in your face graffiti, but again that's probably just what time has done to it. ACC has mostly nailed it, though one of the hills off track looked off... and since it is the latest scan, they should have nailed it. Anyway, my order... ACC, iracing, gt7, forza (because of the curbing which affects racing more than the details), though all of them are quite worthy. You really should have included AMS2 too, though...

@ImLehwz

Ай бұрын

I think ACC is the 2023 version

The Defense for iracing and other sims is that their scans are pretty old if you do this vid 10 or whenever they added nordshliefe in iracing it would be exact

@SuperDRAY88

Ай бұрын

It’s not a defense if they aren’t willing to update it for their customers. People are paying money so they should be updating it

@Tacoplane91

Ай бұрын

@@SuperDRAY88yeah just that everyone wants new content instead of updating the old ones if they don’t have any major changes because it costs a lot of money to scan it and if it’s not extremely outdated ( for example spa is one that needs a redo cause the scan is 2008 or 2009) but the Nurburgring hasn’t changed much so people on iRacing are happy with it and just want more tracks (Sorry for writing essay)

Love it mate, Thanks for you VERY Detailed Video as you did a Fantastic job having 12,000+ lap's on Assetto Corsa I am a BIG FAN of Nordschleife. It's Not perfect but is the BEST I've seen yet for a SIM game. Take care and Thanks again, "Subscribed!!!"

@Kireth

Ай бұрын

Thanks man very much appreciated!

It's not an ultimate comparison when your are missing AMS2. it's subjectively one of the best titles available.

@RawiioliExtras

Ай бұрын

not to mention Race Room xD

@BA-rh5hy

Ай бұрын

@@RawiioliExtras thank you.. couldn't remember on the top of my head if it was race room or rfactor

Nice job! Thanks!

@Kireth

Ай бұрын

Thanks man!!

I think the most important part is the physics and how cars react to certain bumps and corners how it looks is really the last thing I’m concerned with when I’m in a “simulator” it matter more how it feels and the feedback I get to my steering wheel

@ChroniclesofKToyoda

Ай бұрын

Physics matter most sure, 100%, but visual accuracy does also matter if you're using it for track knowledge, which IRL is the most important thing for fastest lap times, so games/sims should strive for both

@ImLehwz

Ай бұрын

Which sim do you prefer?

I dont mind them being outdated i just want it to look accurate at how the car behaves through the bumps and jumps

@Kireth

26 күн бұрын

Yep have a look in this video 🙌🙌

Looks like the Forza version isn't so bad after all

@MUCKLEECH

Ай бұрын

...Did we watch the same video?

@Johnny_Thunder

Ай бұрын

forza has the most realistic lighting.

@andreasmoller9798

Ай бұрын

@@Johnny_Thunderit dosent, gt7 has superior lighting

@ChroniclesofKToyoda

Ай бұрын

@@andreasmoller9798 I noticed the other day how the dark areas such as the footwells in shadow still get realistically darker going under bridges & such, that's ignoring realistic eye adaptation. PD's lighting even as a crossGen title truly is a marvel!

@gamersplaygroundliquidm3th526

10 күн бұрын

Yeah looked pretty good

Considering when iRacing scanned Nords, it stands up well. ACC should be on the mark seeing as it likely the most recent scan of the track. Where were the rFactor2, AMS2 and Raceroom versions?

@marksutherlandjr.2121

Ай бұрын

iRacing stands up also because it's the largest community in the world. It's the CLEAR AUTHORITY when it comes to world of SIM.

Thank you for this comparison, but can you campare the nos between iracing/rf2/ams2 and acc? I think this 4 Sims has the most accurate laserscan. But, of course we know from different years. Iracing nos is 10 years old, factor2 has a 2019 scan and ams2's scan is from 2020. It could be interesting to see the comparison to the newest acc version.! I'm from Germany and of course I have all these Sims and nos tracks. Best track ever, in my opinion.

Forza looks the best out of the lot, but ACC has the most accurate version. Another great video, kudos.

@Kireth

Ай бұрын

Cheeky dub for Forza on graphics?

@Antidepressiva1980

Ай бұрын

@@Kireth delusional, ikr

@jw2722

Ай бұрын

Lmao

@TruRipsta

Ай бұрын

I agree, Forza has a much more natural color pallet. The others have way too much contrast and exposure...GT7 looks too clean also, no real life imperfections.

@nihilityjoey

Ай бұрын

@@TruRipsta Yup. When you watch the clips, what one make you look twice the most, thinking it was real? its forza.

i like how FM7 use vegetation like bushes ecc, looks pretty good.

Be interesting to see if FM updates the kerbs like they did with the pit exit for the Daytona track. Maybe update 8 or 9?

Where's Automobilista 2??

@marksutherlandjr.2121

Ай бұрын

No one really recognizes it yet. It's fkn GREAT though!

@MUCKLEECH

Ай бұрын

@@marksutherlandjr.2121 If they swapped FM for AMS2, it would have been a closer comparison IMO

Excellent vid! I absolutely love nordscheleife. As a complete noob, racing in it over and over have def helped me get better at curves. Cant be afraid to abuse those limits! 🔥

I don't get why you hate the festival vibe in FMS.. It adds some personality to the races and makes them more interesting to me at least..

@LorenzoClara97

Ай бұрын

Because it is unrealistic in many places

@nihilityjoey

Ай бұрын

​@@LorenzoClara97This is actually quite wrong. With the exception of the flags (which I think are there to help with breaking) the activity happens where it's supposed to happen. I just find it strange that people complain there is too much. But it all happens where it's supposed to happen in the track boundaries.

@TheCommentator112

Ай бұрын

​@@nihilityjoeyhave you even been there IRL?

@nihilityjoey

Ай бұрын

​@@TheCommentator112You are missing the point. SIM or not, it's a game. And having more people there isn't breaking any rules. Even ACC has more than GT and I racing.

@damianmichalewski6682

Ай бұрын

@@nihilityjoey Because ACC is literally mimicking last years 24hr race

I think they all do a pretty good job. Very impressive.

Assetto Corsa 2013 with Content Manager and Custom Shader Patch 👌

rF2 version was one of the strongest in sim racing - best to benchmark that

For the amount of detail that went into ACC and how it drives =) I paid for that DLC and did not regret it 😅

I don't think you have the camera set as low in gt7 as you do in the other versions. Maybe try again but go with the bumper camera, or something similarly lower. Also, I think gt7 nails the trees far better than any other version. Next to the actual track itself, the trees I think go the farthest towards getting the feel of the real life track.

The RF2 version is also very good. I miss it in this comparison.

Knowing when they were scanned, and introduced. You'd expect ACC to be the most accurate today because that was the latest one to be introduced. I wouldn't be surprised if it's on the list for a refresh, along with Spa and a few others.

@MRD0889

Ай бұрын

Spa on ACC is so far my favorite.

I practiced for ACC via Forza and I think the two are close enough that it was possible, despite the different physics.

@2:36 you say FM adds a curb that doesn’t exist but so does GT7

@andreasmoller9798

Ай бұрын

Wrong, gt7 is accurate, fm has the worst nurburgring in simracing

@deathtrooper2048

Ай бұрын

It's not, you can literally see in the video that GT7 added a curb.​@@andreasmoller9798

@coy9958

26 күн бұрын

@@andreasmoller9798 such a fanboy comment. Gt7 accurate? Did you even watch the video?

@JesappelleFREDO

21 күн бұрын

​@@coy9958Désolé il l'a entièrement raison

Forza looks very good. Funny how people keep saying how bad Forza version is just to find out all the inconsistencies in other titles as well. From the start already biased towards Forza. Biased conlusion, even the game is paused Forza is at speed making it blurry. Camera angles could be deceiving a well.

@GinolasVideos

27 күн бұрын

The curbs are just wrong in Forza, having driven all of them, and done a lot of laps in real life I can confirm Forza is way of the mark.

@coy9958

26 күн бұрын

@@GinolasVideos sure. The point is there are inconsistencies in other titles as well. Why did the other titles not get nitpick before Forza version arrived, clearly there is bias. Funny how people act surprised with the comparisons, thinking that Forza is the only game that has issues.

This is a fucking amazing video. The last few years of resurfacing / digitalisation project have made all the older models feel a little outdated to real life now. I know Misha Charoudin advised ACC on some things, and it's pretty much bang on minus the foxhole resurfacing this year, and it's new death kerb. Also nice real life lap footage in there!

@ChazHarding

Ай бұрын

Trackmania has the most accurate version. Fact. I’ll fight anyone who says otherwise. Trackmania > Forza > Grand Theft Auto > GT Sport > iRacing > ACC Nordschleife FACT

GT7 graphics looks smooth realism

How recent is the real life vide The nordschliefe has had some work done over the winter with one or two new herbs and new tarmac in parts of the track.

GT7 looks the worst with oversaturated colors. Forza looks pretty good, ACC probably best of all and has the best feeling FFB for communicating the road. iRacing looks like a good all rounder despite the ancient render engine. Amazing how carried away some people got with the Graphiti on the track lol.

@ltrace8651

Ай бұрын

Are you blind?

If you had add a pilot and asked him to drive in all sims and in real life and he talked about the grip etc this would make more sense to me, the visuals its relative to the date of the scan.

Anyone remembers this track in Project Gotham Racing 2? Super long ago...

@lsi01

Ай бұрын

GOAT racing game. I lost so many hours on that game.. and they had geometry wars as a mini game… Man, Xbox live was incredible back then 👍🏾👍🏾

I can play the track in GT7 in VR on ky console without needing a gaming PC, that makes it an auto win for me

In my oppinion ACC looks the most realistic. Simply amazing! In a couple of years we will probably not be able to tell if it is reality or simulation.

Silly question, why are there some many differences between all of these games? Are they all not using laser scans of the track?

@wdowa94

Ай бұрын

Track is different every year

@Robin_S78

Ай бұрын

@@wdowa94Only ACC and iRacing use laser technology.

@kirotethekitsune4541

Ай бұрын

@@Robin_S78Polyphony also uses laser scanning, they've been doing it since GT4

@DCFHazardRebornChannel

23 күн бұрын

​@@kirotethekitsune4541not for the tracks I don't think at the time, don't know if they use for tracks too now.

@DCFHazardRebornChannel

23 күн бұрын

A laser scan is not complete, you need to still model it and do a lot of retopology, also a laser scan does not just do the whole track, they need to piece it together, so you lose some details such as elevations etc and need to have more data than just laser scanning. Then there is extra data on road grip etc, what kind of asphalt is on each piece etc, track is also different from year to year but last of all some changes I argue are deliberate so that to compensate for accessibility, like FM dumbing down the curbs. Also, they scan the track, as in the road part, a lot of the backgrounds or walls and other assets are built for each game, that is why we also see such a difference in the surrounding which arguably should change less, different hills etc. On one shot compared to real life it was evident GT7 had the better hills along with fm and iracing and acc missed out and looked wrong there. These parts are from references not actual scans. So yeah many reasons behind it. A scan is not just a single shot that is ready and there are also different scanning methods and technologies

its Obvious by the end of 1st corner which one is best !!! I think that I racing so out of date on a lot of it tracks, and considering how much it cost OVER and OVER ! they need to either change their price model or release II Racing ;)

Is forza the only simcade that isn’t laserscanned?

Good comparison! 👍

@Kireth

Ай бұрын

Thanks bro!

The thing for me is, I'm new to this track. Absolutely loving forza version. iracing looks great, gt looks as good as always and acc nailed it. Gt next on the list. I have no complaints

@Fearlessphil100

Ай бұрын

I started sim racing on AC and learnt the Nordschleife there. Of course I also got ACC and it's version is fantastic. However ACC is limited to GT style cars and while AC modded is good, it is getting dated. I have a PC and only FM as a console port is available to me(would like if they did a port of GT7 so I could try it before making a verdict on it). So to fill a void in the meantime I also got Forza Motorsport, and while driving physics are more forgiving in a simcade, I still enjoy the Nordschleife in FM and in general the layout not so much the detail, is sufficient enough to not break the experience for me. So knowing how Kunos strive for excellence I am really looking forward to AC EVO, especially as I learnt that they are going for an in house engine(not that ACC in Unreal engine is bad, but my guess is Kunos saw limitations with regards to physics modeling). So hopefully we get the best of all worlds, that is Physics/Visuals/Day-Night Cycles/Weather and track conditions/Cars and Track selection(and if you race online, then multiplayer functionality also).🤞 I believe that I read an article a long time ago before ACC came out, that interviewed Kunos and they said ACC was part of the RD process for the spiritual successor to AC. Not long to wait now yay, and it will be interesting to see how the conversation changes then.😊

ACC wins hands down, it's not even close.

ACC gave it the heart and soul it has in real life

I've never experienced ACC I racing and forza versions yet but GT7 you definitely feel the the hills while in the in car view

@jw2722

Ай бұрын

you need to try ACC

@lizardmanstlargoinan8906

Ай бұрын

I'm waiting for console's to bring it don't have PC I'll have to wait for PlayStation

Instead of FMS and GT you could have compared it with rf2 and am2, but ok, good job anyway

Insane

You cant really moan about missing crowd fencing from stuff scanned in 2017/18 vs stuff scanned in 2022/3 when the fencing was erected in between. The curbing is really important if you're using it as tool to learn. I personally don't use any speaker poles for breaking reference in real life or in the sims, though I know some do.... All things considered I think its nice how well GT7 stands up since release, and ACC doing a cracking a job, doesn't Iracing love its graffiti!

Where is rfactor2?

Why not AMS2?

@mickeilkeil

Ай бұрын

and RF2 and Iracing

I have all steam racing games with Nordschleife present. It's 14 games.

@vinen

Ай бұрын

Without iRacing since I play on my Steam Deck only

May I ask, which simracing game has the best teaching part? 'Cause I play GT7, but those license tests and demo runs are far from teaching. :)

@Kireth

Ай бұрын

Keep an eye on something I am launching imminently on my site www.simracenews.com 🙃

@terrylu4894

Ай бұрын

gt7 is already the best to start. if you play acc first you will be lost 😂 You should read the description before you drive, I think it's quite informative. If you want to start ACC, I highly recommend the TLDR playlist from the KZread Channel Aris.Drives. It covers the topics from the very basics the the advanced driving and tuning techniques, and explains the physics behind them. And they're also easy to follow!😁

@rogerdiz3520

Ай бұрын

​@terrylu4894 as someone who does acc mostly, I couldn't agree more... gt7 and forza are where you get your feet wet, acc and iracing are both straight out sims and will most likely frustrate beginners. That said, all of them do have the option to put down an 'ideal line' to help if you need it, just the 2 simcade titles have much more forgiving driving physics models. I'd only recommend acc and iracing to those with experience, and iracing only to those with a very fat wallet.

@lv407

Ай бұрын

​@@rogerdiz3520 my real cars never frustrate me!🤔😂

@rogerdiz3520

Ай бұрын

Forgot to add... and this is ACC specific, you'll really only get the most out of ACC by joining groups on discord, who have a rule set you can live with as the single player experience is limited as is the AI, and the multi-player open lobbies can have some really bad driving standards.

I have to say , Kunos simulazioni did a very good job!

ACC is the closet to real life.

this track is laser scann in multiple sim racing game, Iracing, AMS2, Rfactor 2, with great sansation .... multiple years ago ... i don't understand why every one is crazy about ACC. it's just an other great laser scan version on this track ... and if you say "yes but some real pilote try the track to optimise it", yes but there is not comparaison on real track and game track on the official nurburgring youtube channel ... Rfactor 2 yes.

ACC Nordschleife is the most accurate virtual track up to date. There's no doubt about it... Because it is the latest version of the IRL Nordschleife. They did scans with all of the latest implementations on IRL track that have been done in 2023. GT7 is probably very accurate but to the very old now version of IRL track that was a decade ago if not more. We need to see when Polyphony is determined to update Nurburgring to its latest version. I'm sure they polished up nurburgring with each version of the game in terms of lighting, visuals, track physics, textures etc but still keeping that original scan layout.

@nxgti3562

23 күн бұрын

GT 7 has the 2017 version :)

iRacing is the bar a far as I'm concerned. VR ftw.

Hey. Next time before you do this kind of comparision make sure to set proper FOV in each game. ACC on this vid has much lower FOV then real life footage and other games so everything is looking too big and too close, also distance between guardrails and track is looking bigger because of that.

just buyed nordschleife in ACC. And after 2 Laps I already know its the best dlc I‘ve spend my money on. Simply Amazing

ACC knocked it out of the park. From a drivability standpoint ACC and iRacing are nearly identical. It’ll be interesting to see the next Nordschleife update on iRacing. Hopefully by the time we see it the graphics engine will have been update to something more modern.

ams2 and rf2 missing, latter is the best I have experienced

rFactor 2 is where I drive the NS, because of the feel and physics. good review but far from complete.

ACC must be better than iRacing. It where a shame if it wasn't. Its a much newer scan and version. Hopefully, they rescan the NOS in iracing soon. Or they update the details. Good comparison. Thanks!

Ok so they all have parts where there good and bad, Looks is one thing the real test which more arcuate to drive vrs real life.

for me ACC is by far the best version

As an xbox owner and regular ring driver... got to say ACC looks the best 😂 typical we can't have it

it's a bit of a joke comparing scans that are probably 10+ years appart from each other. A lot of the track's ben repaved the past years as well

ACC but where is my PS5DLC?

Only question I have with this video is why is Forza's camera seems to be the only one set to "below the license plate" view? Does kinda distort what you're seeing.

Glad you didnt put Ride 5 version of this track, because the accuracy of thia track on that game are the worst even on the previous Ride game.

Great post good shit. I love sim racing and prefer iracing all day.

People make fun about fm8 but actually has better ffb than acc and i have 350 hours on acc and 150 hours on fm8 , acc has better physics, graphics and sound , but forza has better ffb i feel way more connected to the car , better cars , a lot of amazing cars , better tracks , le mans , road america. Virginia , I'm playing on xbox series x , I've heard pc version of acc has different ffb to me honest

Considering Turn 10 has never claimed Forza to be a sim, it stacks up well against, although falling short of, true sims like ACC and iRacing. GT on the other hand falls well short of the others considering it's always claimed to be a real driving sim. The very fact most sim channels continue to mention Forza when looking at or comparing 'sims' is an indication that it has in fact surpassed its proposition as a 'racing game' at least in the context of driving dynamics and realism. Gt on the other hand falls short of its claim yet excels a 'racing game'. I'm lucky enough to be able to play all these titles and there's something great about each of them the others lack so personally I don't think there is a 'best' but just great options for whatever is important to each person.

Wel it is a no brainer for me - l I only have the ACC game, so the Nord track in ACC is the best for me, period. Why should I even watch the video if I don't have the other games. I don't do IRacing, Forza, or Gran Turismo games because of either cost, subscriptions, or don't have any console systems. I don't have the ACC Nord track yet, but waiting for a sale price on STEAM when it becomes available. Enjoy all the other ACC tracks and cars. I have watched allot of You Tube videos of races with the ACC Nord track and looks great. Take care.

Your conclusion was biased. You didn't even bother to properly sync the clips. Esp. at the end. You ONLY sync'd ACC at the end to your exit footage, as if to reinforce the placebo interpretation it would naturally cause by being mistimed. Perhaps it was an unintended over sight. The editors slip-tool to adjust clips in video (sync in) montages is easily ACCessible before final compression. Perhaps You'd consider a proper re-upload with better sync'd clips, over your already fine commentary, to help support your claims. Unfortunately, i could not conclude ACC was better due to this. Other than that, nice footage!

Is Nordshleife coming to ps5 in ACC.

Kireth le fanboy aveuglé par le mensonge de FM8 🤣🤣

In terms of colour realism, hands down forza wins, iracing comes close and ties with gt7, and sadly acc seems to saturated. But in terms of graphics, iracing and gt7 are on par yet again, forza I'm on the fence, at times is almost perfect (for a game) but seems then sometimes looks weird but I can point out what it is. Where as acc hands down wins this section, it just looks great. Overall though, I really can't say which I truly prefer. But if I really could only use one for the rest of my life, it would possibly be acc. This has now solidified my compulsive thoughts to complete my acc dlcs

@jw2722

Ай бұрын

desaturated and washed out does not = realism

@peter91d

Ай бұрын

Forza colours are way off, looks nothing like the real footage. ACC and gt7 look the most accurate

@boziewz6125

Ай бұрын

We all have different eyes guy, this is what mine see

@Racingfan101

24 күн бұрын

​@@peter91d compared to a camera recording nothing comes close to GT7. However what your real eyes see, in my own opinion too forza motorsport comes closer in right conditions. Sometimes also very bad depending on the conditions.

@nihilityjoey

23 күн бұрын

​@@Racingfan101No. Just no. GT does not look the best, at all.

Rfactor 2 😉

acc is the most recent scan

Every game has it soul i go with forza if they continue to make better sound, race warning flags, better penalty system night rivals and we could go on and on 😂

NordschleifE! E! E! There is an E at the end of NordschleifE!

Forza has the most realistic lighting by far, it actually looks like real life. Iracing looks stale in comparison and ACC looks over saturated and gamey.

To me...I watched and in the first few bends ...ACC was amazing... But watching it through...ACC is turned off more than anything else...are you being paid by iracing and gran turismo... Do you have a real Vs ACC... That seems the closest

@Kireth

26 күн бұрын

Bro I was paid by Need For Speed to make this video

ACC wins hands down.

pretty unfair comparison when ACC is literally brand new and iRacing scan is years years old.

ACC is great!!

Prediction: ACC IRacing GT Forza

@ltrace8651

Ай бұрын

Reality: GT7 ACC iRacing fm

ACC for the win!

forza needs some damn colour

iRacing did it for me.....

Good video there. ACC and forza both look better and more accurate than the other two. Especially gts 2d rotaing trees following your car along the track. Gt and i racing aremt bad at all, they just arent in the same league. And forzas improved physics make it great to drive on a wheel and pedals. And i really like the atmosphere of the tracks in Forza. Whilst being sims, they are games as well. Even ACC had the activity going on. I feel its adds to the atmosphere. Again good comparison video here.

In 2.53 buildings at the horizon appear to be higher/nearer in games than in real life. Is it that the games don't really account earths curvature? it is not the camera heigth

GT7 definitely had the trees most accurate.

AMS2 is the best FFS

I still cannot understand why they choose to make a brand new look of the tracks , i love when the curbes are beaten up like in the real life , in acc all the track is clean clean like brand new track , to me thos skids and dust add so much realism

@Robin_S78

Ай бұрын

The track has been resurfaced in real life.

@GinolasVideos

27 күн бұрын

They also re-paint the curbs the week before N24 every year..

just for a saving cdkeys has the Nordschleife £7.59 on PC

Forza, at least on Adenauer, didnt bother with the corners name on the signs.

ACC by far the best. I Racing by far the worst.

remember back in the day when forza would talk about scanning al the tracks in real life? lol