I use a 49" and I honestly had no idea how much FOV I lacked in comparison to the triple 32"s until now. Thanks for this video!

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! Yeah the difference is quite significant. Situational awareness and sensation of speed both get a big boost with more FOV. Whether it's worth the time, cost and hassle of changing from your setup is now your decision :)

@novadude1968

4 ай бұрын

You are so right, I have been to try tell drivers nice that you agree.

@MrJoppashoppa

4 ай бұрын

i understand. i went from a single 16/9 to a 21/9 to triple 16/9. So never had 32/9. But i love my triples because you can really see when someone is besides you for an attack. But must also say, 1 49 superultrawide is also not a bad experience. Its still way better then just 1 normal screen. I think the best thing you can get is 3 42inch 4k oled panels. No motion problems and all the screenspace you want. But not to extreme like some youtubes have triple 65inch. Thats to big. For me triple 27 it is for now because i don't have much space left. XD

@FifthPinned

3 ай бұрын

Update: I did upgrade to triple 32"s shortly after my comment. Night and day difference! If you've got the space for it, do it! Costed me less than my G9 costed.

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

@@FifthPinned 🔥 heck yeah

Very interesting topic, Doc! You've convinced me to go triples in the near future. I was initially planning on getting a 21:9 (34") monitor, but, like you said, I was having an unrealistic expectation of FOV. This clears up quite a lot of stuff!

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Hi Darth, I'm so glad I could help with your purchasing decision! I hope I've saved you some frustration and some money ❤️

Thanks for this follow-up video, super interesting to see the differences between the setups in direct comparison, big thumbs up 👍👍

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Yeah it's quite hypnotic to watch the the different perspectives all playing out in real time. Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for commenting! I appreciate your appreciation!

Having had single, triple and super ultra wide.. i can now say nothing beats VR for simracing. That and a 3DOF rig and you have fully immersed race that nothing can beat.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I'd love to give VR a proper try. I have a PSVR and really enjoyed Dirt Rally, but haven't used VR for any racing since then. Please write to your favourite headset brands and encourage them to send me a headset to test!

@channelvr1293

5 ай бұрын

i've used about 6 different HMD's for now my daily driver is the pimax crystal just because of the amazing clarity an visuals. In overall feeling my HTC vive Pro was the best.@@DrAlanQuan

@dylanfriedrich5722

3 ай бұрын

Tried rift S and quest 3, get ton of issue even with a pretty decent computer. lose tracking or freeze in the middle of a corner ... Sold them and got triple for almost the same price

@channelvr1293

3 ай бұрын

hmmm honestly i never had any problem with my HTC vive or vive pro....nor do i have this problem with my crystal ( btw the vive's worked with a RTX2080) i do agree the setup takes time . However a decent 3 monitor takes a while to . But once that is setup it should be for ever. @@dylanfriedrich5722

@GapeGang

2 ай бұрын

If you want to be faster, use a monitor. Easier to be more consistent in 2D

Speaking from a point of reality....the 49" is the most realistic especially on dirt. In car you can see very little to anything at all behind the A pillar because of the seat and helmet. I would adjust the in game FOV just enough to see the drivers side mirror and that would be about as good as it would get in reality. I race asphalt late models and my spotter only calls to the door on the inside but to the front 1/4 on the outside. A lot of people think I am odd for this but learn to see with your ears. More often than not you can hear them beside you.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Hi Hayden, cool perspective. I definitely agree with the sound cues - I have to admit I am not a 100% stickler for realism. The 1:1 projection of the game world in the monitors is a big plus. Besides that I would say I want my setup to provide competitive advantage rather than strict realism - more FOV (ignore restrictions of seat and helmet), adjust audio levels (boost tyre noise, suppress engine sound, etc) to help me race safely and competitively - my enjoyment comes from the battle, rather than the struggle 😂 I'm really glad you shared your view though, it makes a lot of sense! 👍

@yjzep9922

3 ай бұрын

Yeah I drive by feel. Anybody who says siper ultrawide fov isn't big enough had never been strapped into a HANS wearing a helmet lol!!

@Shredzac

3 ай бұрын

@@yjzep9922 THIS. One of the reasons I went with ultra wide over triples is that the FOV restriction is somewhat similar to when wearing a HANS.

Thanks for the insightful videos. I always link your original video when people ask what to choose between ultrawides/triples, will link this from now on.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

That's so lovely, thank you! The first time I saw someone link my video as a reference was extremely flattering. I'm glad it's a useful resource for you!

This is exactly what I needed! thank you so much for the great video!

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

I'm glad you found it useful!

@MrRumBacardi

4 ай бұрын

@DrAlanQuan Since I am starting from Scratch I will still go with an Ultrawide, my pc is still a workstation/gaming station that is not 100% dedicated to sim racing. I do not have the luxury of putting in triples yet. Great analysis. Thank you, new sub! @@DrAlanQuan

This is a fantastic video that I will now always link to people who want to get an Ultrawide. Great work!

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

That's really awesome, thank you! I feel so proud that I've created a resource that is useful to so many ❤️

Another great video, I thought your other video was good but this one is the icing on the cake, thankyou for your hard work.

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

That's a really nice thing to say, thanks for sharing that with me 👍

I have owned the 49 inch for about 5 months now and I could not be happier. I probably would have gone triples but just do not have the space the 49 is a tight fit but as I said I personally could not be happier, Yes racing side by side is not as easy as with triples but it's still leagues apart from the single 27" I started on and it is a lot more user friendly in terms of setup, Great video showing the differences btw, But to anyone who doesn't have room for triples the 49 is a great option imo

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Hi Andy I completely agree and I'm so glad you brought this to the comments. I don't think a single 49" super ultrawide is a bad choice - it is compact but maximises FOV for its compactness, it looks awesome, it's a simpler task to assemble and wire. It suits your needs, just as it doesn't suit my needs. I just hope that people will have a fair understanding of what to expect FOV-wise with this type of monitor before spending their money and I think my videos accomplish that!

@Username_Invalid

5 ай бұрын

49” with Track IR is better than Vr for me 💯. Never tried triples, but with 49” I can run every game maxed out pretty much with 2070super. I know with triples I would have to upgrade pc as I’m used to nice graphics. TrackIR has zero performance hit and lets you look into the apex which gives a very realistic feeling as well as checking sides. This was a great video btw.

@alex.germany

5 ай бұрын

I choose the single 49“ to save electrical energy. The system uses about 300 watts less power (monitors and gpu) compared to tripple. Energy costs are really high here in Germany…

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

@@alex.germany power consumption is an interesting aspect I didn't consider for this topic - but I have actually been measuring power consumption of all my equipment in the last few weeks and think it's a fascinating topic

@alex.germany

5 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan Yes. I measure my equipment since about two years. And my sim rig allone (including all periphery) draws about 600 kWh just this year. I just startr the sim rig for 2 to 3 hours per day in average. This means that the whole system requires around 650 watts when I use it. My main computer - that runs usually 15 h to 16 h per day - used about the same power because it's most of the time idle, has a smaller monitor etc...

Very nice video. I like how you clearly showed the difference in game, that's real life scenarios. I missed the ultrawide 45 LG oled and the new Samsung 56", but hey, there's too much to ask, you did amazing

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Haha thank you, I've received so many comments suggesting/telling me to test the Samsung 57" and I'm just like, it's THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS I don't make big purchasing decisions like that easily haha RaceKraft actually have the triple LG OLED setup so it's not impossible to film those. I raced in them, they work really well. FOV-wise it's not much different to triple 32s - it's big, wide and tall. But the colours are lovely and the deep curve is quite spectacular. That big Samsung though, it's so expensive and it is 'just' a single monitor after all and unless Samsung sends me one to assess, I don't think I'll come across one to test.

@bsmarques

5 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan yeah, it’s too expensive. They definitely should send you a review unit, it’s on their best interest. If it does well, they have a selling point and a justification for the absurd price. Another common option is for people to go with a big 65” TV, this can show how much they gain(or lose) with a ultrawide and a triples set. Anyway, thanks again !

Very interesting and informative, i have been using a single 32 curved monitor for a while and live it... was thinking going wide didnt see the point of triples ...but this gave me new insight and now i think this is my next upgarde! 👍

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Good stuff! If you're going to upgrade, at least make the improvement with your time, effort and money - that's my philosophy and it sounds like it might match up to yours. Have fun!

Genius analysis and thank you!

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Genius 😂 thank you for reaching out

This is great content, very informative and clear up lots of confusion between triples and super ultrawide. I am glad that I have cancelled my Samsung 57 and went for triple 32s instead, definitely one of the best investments I have made for my rig.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I think you made a good choice 👍 thanks for your kind words, it's my pleasure to have you here

One thing I don't really understand is why do people have their monitors so high compared to your normal horizontal eyesight. This means you will get a bad neck and strain your eyes. I've tried it out at a mates house and different events, I just can't get why people have it setup like this

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Hi Martin, I have the monitors at this height because I'm always rolling the rigs and monitors around my studio - and since some rigs are higher than others, I set the monitors to be able to roll over the higher one. If you look at my rig tour video I have the monitor much lower - that was before I had multiple cockpits to manage in the studio 👍

@R0b3ert

5 ай бұрын

The best setup, if your eyes completely center horizontally in the monitor.

@rolux4853

5 ай бұрын

Exactly that’s what I think everytime I see people’s screens! I have mine set as low as possible so the monitors centerline is directly at the height of my eyes. Everything else is undrivable for me!

@alecmillea4539

5 ай бұрын

@@rolux4853same here. I also don’t get when people put their monitors so far away like behind the wheelbase or even behind the pedals. You get so much more usable FOV if you drop your screen down on top of the steering shaft.

@sportbikejesus6297

5 ай бұрын

I use a 65” TV so I don’t have mine high and this means the bottom of the screen is obscured by the wheel

Fantastic video, really informative for someone like myself looking to go triples. Are you using VA or IPS 32" or is either suitable for sim racing. Cheers

@DrAlanQuan

11 күн бұрын

Thanks for watching! These are VA monitors and they work completely fine. There's a bit of ghosting which is most obvious when racing at night but not game breaking at all. I'm very happy with them

Thanks for the video sir. I ran triples until VR happened and I haven't gone back since. Rift, Quest 2, HP Reverb and now Quest 3. Using on my race rig and also my flight sim. Now with mixed reality coming into play, things are progressing rapidly. Cheers!

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I'm curious, why the upgrade path between those three headsets? I'm very new to VR, trying to learn as much as I can before possibly picking something up in the new year

@EmesiS

5 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan It's just the progression of technolgy and better headsets coming out through the years. HTC Vive and Oculus Rift came out in 2016. Since then optics have improved and prices have come down. There are advantages and disadvantages going either way with flat screens or VR. You have a lot of studying to do. But luckily there are tons of videos and opinions out there. In short, if you want pure immersion then VR is the way to go. If you want to know more about the history and progression of VR then look up a chap named Palmer Luckey. Cheers!

@Maebbie

4 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan i think pico 4 would be a great entry for you, they use the new kind of pancake lenses and dont have the bloat that comes with using a quest. Its only 200 to 250 bucks used in europe at least, a great deal for any kind of VR and especially sim racing.

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

@@Maebbie thanks I'll add that one to my list of headsets to watch!

@simracingjunky9679

Ай бұрын

@@Maebbie I'm going to add a used Quest Pro (if you can git it at a good price) to the mix. It has eye tracking so you can use Dynamic foveated rendering for open xr compatible titles for huge performance gain. The only thing I don't like about VR is that for someone like me who's always trying to get the best picture/fps, it's really expensive!! The best thing right now would be to wait until the end of 2024 because there are several new HMD's that will probably come out.

awesome! great effort and perfect comparison

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! Some things need to be seen to be believed 😂 I'm very lucky to actually have the monitors all next to each other to compare - not many of us get this luxury so I try to pass on everything I learn!

@lordclumsy

5 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan absolutely! Very rare, someone has this opportunity and shares it! Much appreciated

How hard is it to align the images horizontally from screen to screen? Around the 7:00 mark, sections of the toy story car are duplicated and it looks like picture continuity is lost in between screens.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Hi Eric, the triple 32s were set up with Asus bezel delete kits which require some duplication of the image at the bezels. I forgot to dial out those settings when I filmed without the refractive panels. Still, it makes zero difference to the FOV since the bezel setting doesn't influence the FOV setting. Sharp eye!

such a great content you made! 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Thank you my friend!

Wow, thats really awesome!! No one has made it this clear so far, fantastic video Alan!

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! I've come across a lot of people who are under the impression that super ultrawides are almost as good as triples - probably people who bought super ultrawides themselves and have justification bias. But the truth is the racing experience isn't even close - and if I can save a new buyer some regret and some money by making this video, I think I've helped to make the world a better place ❤️

@deyberthsequeira5424

5 ай бұрын

clear what? that triples is better... of course

awesome video, subscribed. what's your opinion on 27x3 vs 32x3...? ignoring cost is one better than the other and how? thanks.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

27s are about the same height as the 35 and 49 - and I enjoy the height advantage that the 32s have over the other screens. For the extra vertical height, my vote goes to the 32s 👍

Great comparison. Is it possible to mix monitors of various widths (same height)? I'm asking because, in a road/GT car the windshield is area itself pretty much equates to the door windows combined. Can I put an ultrwide in the centre and two smaller monitors on either side?

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! Yes should be possible, I've seen others' setups just like you described. I haven't fiddled with it myself so not sure what's involved with getting the image seam at the bezels set correctly. I'd rather go 3x same monitor myself. Lots of people have paved the way for this to be the easiest way forwards.

Wauw! Fantastic comparison. I've never seen the differenceses that clearly compared! Interesting how the actual Ultrawide 49" made less viewable at the extremeties to the sides, compared to the simulated Ultrawide 49". Also noticed that the side monitors of the triple 32" seemed to warp the nearby car more so than then widescreen 35" sidemonitors did. Was all FOV the same, for all setups, both in person and simulated?

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Excellent observation. One of the other commenters noticed in the dirt street stocks scenario that the hands in the 49" were oversized which makes me suspect I might have had the FOV setting slightly too tight - with that corrected it would probably still end up being a bit tighter than my simulation though. Also a very sharp observation about the angle of the side monitors. The triple 32s are my own and have a fairly deep angle. The triple 35s are straight off the RaceKraft sim centre floor (they trailered it fully assembled to my studio) and have a shallower side screen angle probably to make it easier for customers to get in and out of the cockpit. I know with my triple 32s is a bit tight at times and my belly hits the monitors sometimes when getting in and out! The 3 PCs and their respective monitors were all set up recently to have an accurate, 1:1 projection from the driver's eye into the game world. I might have been off by a degree here or there but it's pretty close - so the actual FOV number in software is different for all 3 monitors, but the outlook from the driver's eye is the same for all of them. Thanks for your kind words and I look forward to seeing you in the next video's comments!

@noer0205

5 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan Thank you so much for the thorough run down! Yeah I think the slight "warping" on the 32" triples setup could just be do to the narrower angle between the screens of the setup compared to the 35" triples. I think the different angles are maybe visible in the video. Al though that might just be confirmation bias, now that I've know this. Nice that you took the time to calibrate all the setups correct FOV, and a few degress difference isn't the deciding factor it would seem. The video highlights way more impactful differences between the different setups. I have'nt been able to save up to a solid alu-rig just yet, but I'm getting closer month by month now, and the content you add to this community is just pure gold to someone like me. Massive thank you. I'll definitely be adding to your view count, though I'm usually a rare commenter. Looking forward to more great & passionate videos. Cheers!

Alan, quick question. I really like the way the Triple 35" Ultra wide set up looks. Whats a good monitor to look at for this? Curved?

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

Hi Turk I honestly don't know enough about monitors to make a suggestion. I would suggest stepping into a computer store and seeing the demonstration monitors - things I would look for are easy VESA mounting, high refresh rate, and acceptable brightness/colours when viewed off centre. Good luck!

Great video. What brand/model 32's are you running?

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Hi Jim, those are Gigabyte G32QC. No complaints from me. Good budget option, I'd happily buy them again if I was starting over 👍

Great video!!! I have both the 49" wide and 32" triples plus VR. The max FOV is a great thing. PS that "Triple 32" in the top right needs the bezel corrected resolution selected.

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

Haha good catch. I had bezel delete kits installed on the triple 32s but I pulled them off because they kept falling off when I was moving the rigs around with all my other testing in the studio. Forgot to adjust the bezel settings before filming this 😂 Thanks for commenting, pleasure to have you here :)

@BakerRacing

3 ай бұрын

I was think about buying those bezels kits but my family walks by my monitors and pushes them inward sometimes by accident as it is located in the bonus room. I wonder if my 49" wide sees a little more as it is the Samgsung Odyssey 49" 1000R curved at 5120 x 1440p (I'm not sure)@@DrAlanQuan

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

​@@BakerRacing the bezel delete kits work great on 27" screens but on 32s they need extenders, and that's the weakest link and where they come apart if you knock them a bit. As for the 1000R screen yes I would expect another few degrees FOV but in the real world I doubt anybody would notice the difference.

For static view obviously triples are heads above other setups (except VR). Just that historically and due budget limitations (and in some cases space for rig limits) single screen still is most common picture output, hence since long various workarounds to limited vision are implemented to reduce awareness issues/limitations in race with such. Voice spotter like crewchief, in-game virtual radar, look-with-steer, bound buttons for side-glance view, head tracking with TrackIR and so on ..

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Yes agreed to everything you've said. I also want to point out I've never had to mess with any of those things you listed because I have triples and enjoy the natural peripheral vision they provide. It's like I paid for the premium display configuration to save me effort in overcoming the shortcomings of a single monitor. Equally, since I have no experience with these techniques I don't even think of them to discuss. A good reminder of what's out there. Thank you!

hi, i was thinking of switching from triple 27s to 32s but i'm not too sure if my PC can handle the increase in rendering needed. Right now i'm getting about 130FPS on iRacing, do you think it's feasible for me to make the switch?

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Depends how low you can tolerate graphic quality and/or frame rate! I limit my frame rate to 90 and I think it's quite fine. Since you can pull 130 now, the upgrade will probably land you in the 90ish zone with the same settings. I could also be completely wrong 😂 I am no PC build expert

I'm enjoying this Discussion - Thank you for posting this content! On this topic, I believe it's fair to mention the use of triple screens varies depending on use. In my opinion, it depends on the type of vehicle and track you're currently racing. This importance ranges from being extremely crucial to somewhat negligible, and it's not a linear relationship at all. As an example, it seems to be more important in Open Wheel Scenarios, but in Dirt Street Stocks, or even NASCAR the left side monitor has limited benefits compared to an Super Ultrawide view. Personally, I feel like the best configuration is a Super Ultrawide flanked by 2- 27" 1000r monitors.

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

Hi Flannelguy, thanks for taking the time to comment! I agree with a lot of what you say, think open wheelers definitely benefit the most - tin tops with their roofs and doors really block off a lot of the visibility and hence benefits of the side monitors - but I still enjoy triple monitors for all sorts of racing. Your ideal monitor setup sounds fine to me, I just wouldn't know how to effectively set them up in software. 3 monitors of the same shape and size keeps things simple for me! Hope to see you more in the comments :)

@FlannelGuy_1978

4 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan Thank you! I look forward to more of your content. I'm also interested to see if curved monitors add any utility at all to sim racing...I see many from the FPS gaming crowd that absolutely dislike the 1000r curve, but it seems that it could be beneficial for sim racing. I'd be interested to see content that either confirms or denies that.

Wow ! Perfect timing , I've been on the hunt for a new monitor & seeing these side by side helped so much . I wonder if a 1660super will push 3 32's @120-144hrz(1080p i guess) Thx for the content .

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Awesome, glad to hear it! I'm not sure about graphics cards at all. I hadn't kept up to date with GPU hardware for 10 years before I got my 3070. Good luck!

Since I barely race, I mostly hotlap or drive togue, a 49" would probably be fine for me, as its mostly about being able to set the pov sort of correctly but still seeing enough. And for when I race, I do use an overlay to show the relative position of other cars. VR would be another very interesting comparison here.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Yeah, the side monitors are king if situational awareness of adjacent vehicles is important. A 49" works just fine for looking forwards, spotting apices, general driving duties. VR comes up A LOT in the comments. I'm hoping 2024 is the year I give it a good go

great video - any suggestions of games/sims that are made for triples? Assetto Corsa, iRacing and RaceRoom seem like the lonely few. Also I heard one version of MS FlightSim did it properly - is it the lastest one? Please don't suggest EA WRC / Dirt or other games that just stretch some garbage onto the side screens.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Hi Will. iRacing is the most problem free piece of software for running triples that I have used, hands down. It was so easy and good, it was the only gaming software I used (not counting stuff like simhub) for nearly 3 years. I had a busy professional life and limited time to race - and iRacing was a consistently reliable and enjoyable experience. I have a bit more time these days but I spend it all making content instead of racing haha so I don't have anything to add to the discussion. Hopefully I can strike a better balance in the new year. I will happily take your suggestions!

Great video.. Nice comparison between the 3 variant types.. I for one use triples and it is most definitely the way to go.. The only issue I must point out is; the way most folks are using triples. They are using it in the wrong way.. They use it in a "semi" ultra wide configuration.. Also the screen size in 32 is not ideal IMO.. What you want to achieve in triples is full immersion. You want a 250 - 270 FOV with plenty of vertical.. The way to achieve that is by using larger screens; 48 inches minimum. 55s are the sweet spot. I use triple 65s, since I used both race and flight sims.. Just my 2 cents.. If you get the chance please feature these setups in a future video 👍.

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

Wow I would love to sit in your rig! One thing I've come to learn after reading all the comments it's everybody has different needs, and what I strongly feel fulfills all my requirements just doesn't suit others. Still, I create my videos to share my experience and hopefully help others, and also to meet people like you who can broaden my horizons :) Your rig sounds like an amazing 'ultimate' setup, and I'd love to build one for laughs but the cost and space and computing requirements to run it make the endeavour just a bit more expensive than I can justify at this time. Thanks for watching and commenting!

@rmoore6471

3 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan You have a valid point around cost... For me why gaming monitors at 65 inches is not effective... The direction I have taken was leveraging LGs 4K TVs... For what you would get for a single Samsung Odyssey Neo G9 you could get 3 LG screens in that price point.. 4K, 120, VRR, HDCP, HDR, in sub 10 milliseconds is decent...👍

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

​@@rmoore6471I briefly looked into that, just for curiosity, but I turned away when I kept seeing these 120Hz screens were only taking 60Hz inputs Probably not a huge deal, I haven't found myself to be fussy with frame rates but I worry that there's quality left on the table if I choose a monitor with a limited frame rate

@rmoore6471

3 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan - I can personally say for sure since I have both LG C1 in 48 inches and LG C3s in 65 inches... All the HDMI inputs reflect 120hz in windows in Nvidia Control Panel under PC - Video settings..

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

​@@rmoore6471awesome! If I ever decide to go bigger I'll certainly look into the LGs, thanks 😊

Yes this makes sense. I’m definitely adding 2 27” to my 49”

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Sounds good - have you found the racing experience lacking from your 49" so far?

@danmihalache6899

4 ай бұрын

that would not be recommended. you would have to set the resolution ingame as for 3 49"s to work, and you will only view half of the rendered image on laterals. and of course the GPU will most likely not cope with such high resolution.

great video good info for my build plans!

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Knowledge is power, happy to share! Have fun!

I just set up a triple screen rig using Samsung neo g7 43's and had nothing but problems . My 4090 refused to output to all 3 (+ my main display) all 4k, 120+hz. It took hours to figure out I had to disable game mode on the screens for the 4090 to provide the bandwidth needed for the screens. Then I was dealing with game mode auto kicking back on randomly disabling a screen and random artifacts and eventually had enough and returned them for the g9 57 and am fairly happy. How do all these folks run triple 4k screens with what seems like no problem? Is there much work behind the scenes or are the particular displays I was using not friendly for triple setups? 😢 I miss the height the 43's had.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

The cable management and software setup of multiple monitors is definitely a consideration versus the simplicity of a single monitor. I don't have any experience with the type of hardware you used - I just use 1440p monitors on a 3070 and didn't experience any of the issues you did. Sorry to hear that

My biggest problem is limited space. My rig is in a small room and I don’t have enough space right now for triples. On the other hand, I can do a 49inch and tuck it away using a moveable arm when not in use. Would you recommend getting the 49 or just give up on it? I will not be able to move the rig out of that room in the near future.

@DrAlanQuan

Ай бұрын

Hi Madgamer. I actually like 49" screens and your situation sounds like the 49 is a very strong solution to your needs. It could serve your needs well for a long time 👍

considering you're in australia, do the fanatec wheel bases ship with au plugs?

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I did receive an Australian power cable with my DD1 👍 This was January 2021 though so things might be different now

I will check it after finishing this video. But I hope you have a video comparing also VR x monitors, because your content is so good. Thanks for this material.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

This comes up a lot, and VR is definitely a big aspect of the simracing scene that I have next to no experience with. I'm hoping I can change this in 2024! Thank you for your kind encouragement❤️

Are triple 32"s the best size or would you recommend even larger triples? Currently running triple 27"s and want to go bigger because of the vertical "claustrophobia" you mentioned. Thanks for the video!

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

Hi Marty, I think the step from 27 to 32 is a really good upgrade in vertical height. 32 is a sweet spot for size and affordable cost - but the screens need to be right on top of your wheelbase to get the 180° FOV which means they need to be fairly high. 43" and above monitors are wider, so they reach further out towards you which means you can mount them above your feet instead, and bring them down a little but now we're talking a lot more space required and a lot more cost as well. Thanks for commenting, good luck with your decision!

I really enjoyed this virtualization. I always wondered how my 49" view compared to triples. I was hoping the 49" you used was a 1000R curve, but it looks like you had the 1800R curved 49", which is what mine is. I am curious how much more you could see between the 49" 1800R vs 1000R. Perhaps you could include that in a later video comparing those two vs the new 57" samsung ultrawide. That would be awesome to see!

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

If I get the opportunity, I will produce an updated comparison - the 57" has been requested many, many times already in the comments I've sat in front of the 57" and it's ok. There's only so much a single screen can accomplish. I am quite confident in saying that for racing door to door, it's triples or VR at the top, and everything else doesn't even come close. I'm also happy to be proven wrong and I'm hoping Samsung will step up and allow me to demonstrate what the 57" is capable of

Great video Dr, however would you like to do a 49” super with 2 27” curve and make it a triple and comparison? I have the G9 and is wondering this is possible. I use Q3 VR for most of the sim racing and that is probably the best already but I would also like my rig looks cool and thinking someone can show a setup of 49 with 2x 27 setup

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

Hi Optima, I don't think I have any 27" monitors available for testing - I can say that I have seen people post their setups online showing exactly what you described: 27-49-27 and it looked good to my eye - but I've never set up a triple monitor configuration myself with anything other than 3 identical monitors. I have an idea of how I would set it up to get the bezels in the right spot but it's very resource heavy and I think I'd prefer the 3 identical monitors if that's the case. The 49 does look cool though!

Do you have any thoughts on ultrawides that have a tighter curve radius and if that at least partially addresses the ultrawide shortcoming in terms of fov?

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I haven't had any other superwides in my hands but I did the math on the new Samsung 57" based on its advertised dimensions Consider a flat screen. It is completely flat, it reaches out exactly 0mm towards the driver so it will never give you peripheral vision The Samsung 57" has a curve of 1000R and reaches out 251mm towards the driver, providing more FOV than an equivalent flat screen My triple 32s reach out 660mm and easily reach my ears. A whole 400mm more than the 57", a 163% increase in reach Based on that, the deeper curved single screens are certainly better than a flat screen, but only marginally so That's not the entire picture of course. Big curved single monitors look stunning and are a fine choice for some people. I would love for Samsung to send me a screen to assess and compare, maybe I'm missing something that makes it a must have monitor

is the FOV for the 2 triple setups different? because it seems that the triple 32s renders more horizontal image on the central screen ( and on the laterals) than the 35s. which is odd

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

Yes they are different - good pickup - a few others have pointed this out as well The triple ultrawides are straight off the RaceKraft sim centre floor, so built for ease of getting in and out, and with quite a long distance to the driver The triple 32s are my own, and are closer to the driver - and the distance to driver (and angle of side monitors) meant that the correct FOV settings for both setups ended up having a wider FOV on the 32s than the ultrawides - which would not be the case if we equalised distance to driver and side monitor angle. When I filmed this, the focus was on triple (insert monitor here) versus 49" super ultrawide so I didn't go to the trouble of breaking down and rebuilding the triple setups to equalise everything. There's a few other small issues with my comparison which others have discussed, and if I do a follow up I'll definitely try to do a perfect comparison - but I think the general gist of the findings still stands. Thanks for commenting! I always welcome feedback and any opportunity to learn. What monitor setup do you use at the moment?

@danmihalache6899

4 ай бұрын

Thx for clarifying :). For the purpose of the test and for a 100% accuracy you could set the FOV in game the same for the triples ( both configs) as most likely the most image rendered and visible should be for the triple 35". ( that is in a future video of course cause I assume you sent back the ultrawide setup ). I am trying to find info for a triple system composed of a central 35" paired with 2 27". And I am interested how much image I would loose on the sides :). Great video anyway! @@DrAlanQuan

I'm trying to decide between 27's and 32's. I've got some space limitations and worry the 32's will take up too much space. Also, what curvature do you recommend? I'm a big guy and the tighter curvature may make it hard to get in and out of the rig.

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

Hi Stu, if you're a bigger guy then get the 32s - since the centre monitor is wider, the side monitors start out wider which creates more room for the belly walking in and out. My 32s are 1300mm edge to edge, so reasonably compact. If you did triple ultrawides like 34s or 45s you'd have even more belly room, but the overall wingspan would be substantially wider. Curvature I'd say 1500 is really nice, 1000 and below looks comically curved but admittedly when I spent 5 minutes in a rig with 800R monitors it was completely fine. I think flat vs curved (any curve) makes very little difference to be honest

@stuboyle666

4 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan Great! Thanks! I will shoot for 32's with a 1500R curvature. I'm going to do 2K resolution, with 165mhz refresh min and 1ms response time max.

Hey Alan, thanks for putting this together. I was thinking about triple 32" as well however I am not certain I have enough room. If you don't mind are you able to measure the widest width of the two side monitors so I can use to measure out how much room I need to accommodate them? Thank you!

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

Hi Paradox, my triple 32s are 1300mm wide. You can make them even tighter than that but then it starts to become difficult to get in and out of the rig, especially if you have a bit of a belly like me 😂

@paradox9357

4 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan Thanks for you reply. What you can do is get the 8020 arms that can swing. That is what I was looking into.

Great comparison vid alan, ive been using 49 ultrawide for a long time and very rarely have to flick my look left and look right for what i cant see...few mates of mine have triples and they couldnt answer me for how many times they look at the side screens haha

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Hi Boothy thanks for watching. I agree the 49 is perfectly serviceable as a driving monitor. As for how often I myself look at the side screens - often enough that I want them to be there. In F3s there's not so much side by side racing but it's awesome when it's there - but dirt street stocks! They're awesome fun and it's side by side racing 90% of the time and your side monitors are just full of cars the entire time. It's an awesome break from road racing, and there's driving skills specific to that discipline that are really satisfying to learn. Thanks for commenting and merry Christmas!

@boothys_sim_racin

5 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan yeh I race a heap of dirt sprintcars and midgets mate, dirt is very under rated I put out a vid recently in the midget had some mega racing...merry Xmas to u too Alan hopefully see ya in a boosted race next year 🤙🥃

Personal opinion based on how I see things physically. I would prefer the 35in ultrawides as I'm used to using them for gaming. I have 32in monitors, but I don't use them for gaming. That locked in feel, for me, makes things more immersive, and I don't have to move my head and eyes as much as things are in a more natural field of view. Loved the video.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing your view (literally! Haha). The locked in feeling contributing to immersion is certainly a different perspective on the matter I hadn't considered. This is exactly why I produce videos - to have conversations with other hobbyists and learn to enjoy aspects of the hobby I hadn't considered, or to enjoy them in new ways. I'm glad you took the time to add a comment, I hope to see more with time:)

Great analysis! One note, with the addition of Samsung’s new 57” monitor, curious to get your thoughts. Triples are still going to get better FOV overall but the 57” gets a solid FOV. The challenge around triples is space and general management.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Yes absolutely - wiring and general bulk are two serious considerations with a triple monitor. I haven't had the Samsung 57" in my hands but I did the math with another commenter in my other fov video. My triple 32s are roughly like one very wide, very deeply curved screen which is 660mm from centre of screen to edge of screen The Samsung 57" is a curved screen with depth of 251mm (roughly) This means the triple 32s reach 400m further out towards my ears than the Samsung 57" which is A LOT. I think it's a geometric limitation of single monitors. I'm sure the Samsung 57" is a serious piece of hardware. Nice panel specs, nice height. But it's damn expensive and by my assessment not especially well suited to simracing. But please contact Samsung and ask them to send me one! I would love to test it and share my findings with the world!

@church493

5 ай бұрын

think of their 57" as .. double-32" 4K monitors. (32:9 49" ultrawides are like double 27" 2K monitors).

Q how much more demand is placed on the PC, I currently run G9 ultrawide with i7 11700k intel, and RTX3080 , if I swapped to triple 32s or perhpas 27s would my PC be able to run in 1440p stil ?

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I have a 10600K and 3070 and can push 120fps generally at medium settings that look really good to my eye. I don't need heat haze from car exhausts! Your computer should do great

Enjoyed the vid, can you tell me how far your wheel is from the centre screen?

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

Thank you - my aim is to keep the monitor at roughly one full arm's reach from my seating position. In a full formula position it's right behind the steering wheel, very close, since I'm deeply reclined and my shoulders moved backwards away from the wheel. In an upright GT position it's a solid 15-20cm behind the wheel. Any closer than that and it's uncomfortable for me to focus my eyes at such a short distance. Hope this helps!

@karlallen6055

3 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan That's a great help, thanks for your help👍

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

@@karlallen6055 my pleasure! Thanks for watching, see you in the next video

Triple 16:9s is definitely the way to go. It provides the best immersion due to the excellent horizontal and vertical field of view. You could argue there are advantages to larger monitors than 32". But 16:9 is the sweet spot.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I very much agree! Vertical field of view is very much appreciated. I was surprised since I though all I needed was peripheral vision, but just for general comfort and wellbeing that extra vertical real estate is lovely

Have you tried Eye Tracking software with the ultra wide because it would negate a lot of what you said. Plus, have you tried the 57 in Samsung Distance to monitor is also critical, need to be close as you can get

@DrAlanQuan

Ай бұрын

No I haven't tried eye tracking, I never thought to since I have triples already and the ultrawides just kind of happened to find their way into the studio - perhaps I'll look into it if I wind up with a single monitor again. No experience with the 57, I've asked Samsung to send me one but no response from them. Also distance to monitor is definitely a factor I agree, but I don't like it too close since it can be uncomfortable to focus my eyes on something so close even if it does give more FOV

I use 3 Samsung 32" 1000R Monitors. Can you tell me, what is the distance between the outer edges of your configuration and what are your settings in iracing?

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

My monitors are 1500R Edge to edge the monitors are 1300mm wide Can't tell you iRacing settings I'm not in the studio today and won't remember to check when I go next 😂

What do you think about triple 55s I'm trying to get more of an in-car feeling. I know I'm going to be stuck with 60 HZ

@DrAlanQuan

27 күн бұрын

Hi I've never tried a large 60Hz screen so I can't comment. I'd love to spend some time racing in one!

Hi Alan, thanks for that comparison. What would you recommend for 32" triple screen? 1000R or 1500R?

@DrAlanQuan

Ай бұрын

Hi! I like 1500. It's comfortable to look at. 1000R is very, very curvy and I don't like it as much!

@Hohlno

Ай бұрын

Thx for the quick response. I think i will go for 1500R. Thought the same about 1000R

@DrAlanQuan

Ай бұрын

@@Hohlno thanks for watching, I hope you have lots of fun! 🔥🔥🔥

Thanks for the video. I would love to see a follow up with the Samsung G9 57'' to see how much it improves the fov.

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

Hi Nicolas I'm interested as well. It's not yet available in Australia but I'm trying to organise one. Stay tuned!

I just purchased an ASR6 rig but it hasn't shipped yet. I ordered the single integrated monitor mount. The one that mounts to the vertical upright extrusions. I was planning to use my single 34 ultrawide for a while and then go with a single 49 inch. If I were to want to go triples in the future now is the time to order a monitor stand that would let me do so when the time comes. Finally I get to my question. Has anyone tried running the AMD 6950 XT with triple 32" monitors? I'm not looking to upgrade that until the prices reach a sane level (which might mean never)

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I don't have experience with AMD GPUs more recent than my Radeon HD 6850 1GB 😂 hopefully somebody worth personal experience can chime in!

Does it really matter if you have spotter? I have 49" and I even ordered real led spotters for my rig, so not sure if this comparision really matters if you use hud or led spotters.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I don't think I can really make comment. I use a spotter as well as the triples. I think being able to see your opponent by your side, and visually determining how near or far they are is useful information and I definitely prefer having it.

Should I get triple 32 curved monitors or triple flats? I can’t decide

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Personal choice my friend, curved vs flat is such a small factor overall. Pick something that is in your price range and has the features you want - resolution, USB ports, headphone outputs, integrated speakers, RGB lighting etc. Flat vs curved, for me, is just about making the rig look really slick. Essentially no functional difference

@Alan Quan Great comparison, enjoyed it very much. Super if we could add the 57 inch Super Ultrawide to this comparison. At the moment I have 49 inches, for 3 monitors I have no room. Ideally I will fit a 57 inch there and I wonder if I will gain much and if it is worth swapping the 49 for a 57 inch. The price is scary for a 57 inch , but I am thinking about it a lot.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

The price for the 57" is indeed scary. Based on my simulation and measurements, I think the 57" will be marginally better than the 49", and still significant more restrictive than the triple monitors. Whether that is worth the $3000AUD is really up to the individual. I would really like for Samsung to step up to the plate and send me a 57" to test. I would do a good job telling the world all about it!

Just out of curiosity what is you FOV for the trip 32"s

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I'm taking a break from the studio, might be a few days might be a week. I can check when I'm back in, but I'm pretty sure it's in the 170s, maybe 178°?

I wonder whats your opinion about vr vs triples. I'm currently driving in vr but considering switching to triples, because its not comfortable for the longer stints

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

My only experience with VR is on PS4 with Dirt Rally which was awesome, but I get quite sweaty. I'd love to play with current generation VR - please write your favourite headset manufacturers to send me a unit to review!

@ThePinkzord

5 ай бұрын

I'm playing on valve index and many consider it still the best vr headset. Some say Meta Quest 3 is better but I haven't tried it. As for the racing, the experience is good but as you said it gets sweaty and after 1hr without breaks my forehead starts to hurt from the constant pressure.

@JP-fs4cl

5 ай бұрын

I went from triples to VR, and after running VR exclusively for the past few years, I am about to make the switch back to triples. Nothing can beat VR for the immersion, but over time, the negatives of VR have come to outweigh the positives for me. I will still keep my VR headset (Reverb G2) and probably use it from time to time on shorter races.

Something that should be pointed out is that the fov heavily depends on the seating position. From what i can tell with the video especially with the 49" setup the screen is quiet far away because of the very agressiv formular style seating position and the screen itself has a very suddle curve. With a more GT style seating position and a more aggressive curve the visibility to the sides gets greatly improved, altougth its never going to be as good as having more screen realestate ^^

@DrAlanQuan

2 ай бұрын

Hi there, yes eye to screen distance makes a big difference. Not enough of a difference to make up for the geometric limitations of a single screen vs triple though. Also I like the screen to be fully at arm's distance from me - in a formula position that's roughly just on top of the wheelbase, in a GT position that's a good 6 inches further away from the wheelbase - any closer than that and it really strains my eyes to focus on the screen. So for me, doesn't matter if I'm formula or GT - distance to screen is the same, FOV is the same

Awesome analysis. Would LOVE an update with the 57 inch Neo G9. I'm running VR primarily, but use a 57 inch Neo G9 when my face gets hot/tired from the VR headset.

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

I'd love to get a 57" in for testing as well. I've followed up a few leads but so far nothing. I'll continue trying to get one for filming

great comparision.... good content !! I joined the party I am running 3 46inches here and also very happy with it i hope you make some more vids like this thx

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind words! Triple 46" sounds fantastic. See you in the next video 🤠

The best video 👍🏼 thx Alan

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

That's so kind, thank you for sharing!

this is very helpful thanks!

@DrAlanQuan

Ай бұрын

Absolutely my pleasure, thank you for leaving a comment!

Have you ever tried it with something like TrackIR or Tobii eye tracker? I was actually planning on getting a 49" until I saw this video, but my plan was also getting a tracker to move my camera around, preferably the eye tracker, and I thought that could be a good setup.

@DrAlanQuan

20 күн бұрын

I've never tried it, but check out youtube.com/@nesterowiczracing?si=HywkHSS4A2Ou3ZPp who runs an ultrawide with eye tracking to get his perspective I've never tried it, and it sounds counter intuitive to me but I should withhold judgement until I've tried it personally. Triples are good though!

@yesno9980

19 күн бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan Triples looks great, I'm more worried about space than anything. Still, gotta do more research before I throw money at something.

@DrAlanQuan

19 күн бұрын

Yep absolutely. For me, the triples were an absolutely regret free decision - good luck with yours!

@yesno9980

19 күн бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan I'll keep that in mind, thanks for your time brother.

Superb video comparison. Could you do the same with rally ? I am guessing that 49 is better overall as you do not have competitors to worry about and the FOV should be enough with 49.

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

The challenge with rally is software support. As I understand it, none of the modern rally sims render triple screens as 3 separate projections, but rather one perspective stretched out which leads to distortion. So not a fair fight, but I agree. Eyes forward, no side by side racing, the 49 would be enough.

Thank you! I recently had someone suggest the 49-in Odyssey. I think they were just justifying their purchase. It looks stretched and distorted. I'd rather have pixels beyond my field of view.. and you're only going to do that with three monitors. With as far as Sim rigs have come in the past two decades, you would think by now someone would have offered a affordable seamless triple monitor system. Our dealership put a television in the showroom that's 20x35 ft. It's a pile of tiny screens all together, and you can't tell where one stops and another one starts. Three slightly curved seamless screens world be nice

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

Those LED panels are great! They provide some real wow factor, but the only ones I've seen have had pretty poor resolution - so at the distances I have my monitors I'll gladly take the bezel. I'd love to see some game changing display tech. A lot of people say VR, which I'm hoping to give a serious go this year I think the 49" monitor is fine, it's certainly usable - if just gives less situational awareness than triples, period. That's a deal-breaker for some, and no biggie for others.

@heinous70

4 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan with as much money as people are investing in riggs, that game-changing display Tech has to be on the way. I recently learned that the field of view in the VR is actually quite narrow. Which explains all of the excessive looking around. I thought they were doing it to show its realism. The fact is, in a real car you want to move your head as little as possible. Under stressful situations, and for the inexperienced, you can sometimes have a tendency to turn the direction your head goes. That's why they tried to improve the field of view in helmets, so you can glance.. as the post to swinging your head left and right. I'm old, and I'm getting to where I have to hold things at arm's length to see detail. The inability for your eyes to focus is the cause of headaches in VR. I'm old, and I've made a lot of mistakes with money. $500 for something that I can't use for 3 or 4 hours straight, isn't worth it to me. My eyes can focus on three monitors, and I don't need to see my lap or the headliner LOL. It's amazing the extent we have to go to for realism, when our eyes seldom Veer more than a few inches from Center

Which monitors do you use for your Trible 32 Setup?

@DrAlanQuan

Ай бұрын

Gigabyte G32QC :)

Is the curved 49" best I can get for ps5? Have a 55" tv now.

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

Hi John, I don't think so because I think PS5 only supports 16:9 displays at this time. I could be wrong though, as I don't have a PS5 and haven't been following the console scene very closely for a while now. 55" TV sounds perfect to me

Can the Geforce RTX 4080 graphics card run 3 triples at 4K resolution at 30+fps on max/ultra settings (such as on MSFS 2020)?

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

Hi Peter, I have no idea. I have access to a 3070 and a 3080, nothing more recent

Wonderful video to explain the difference❤❤👍👍

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Thank you so much! The difference is really big, it actually surprised me when I did the simulation the first time - and then filming it for real it was even bigger 😂 The people need to know!

I prefer VR, generally. I get the 110 degree FOV with my particular headset, and the ability to look around, which is really what does it for me. The depth also helps me personally when aiming the car and judging my braking points!

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

I'm aiming to give VR a good go this year!

I have a Samsung 49" which is great for sim racing. If you want to keep track of someone coming up on your side, I recommend using Track IR. With Track IR I can slightly move my head to the side and see the opponent while still being able to still see the track ahead.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I've not used Track IR but it gets mentioned a lot. Without first hand experience I can't comment much on it, but it seems counter intuitive to have the screen perspective shift when your head moves - like of I move my head left 5 degrees the whole image shifts 10 degrees or something like that. I feel like i'd get dizzy - has that been an issue for you?

@advanceddarkness3

5 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan For flight sims its decent, for sim racing its awkward at best. You have to turn your head while still keeping your eyes center....awkward.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

​@@advanceddarkness3exactly what I thought it would be like. Thanks!

I moved from triple curved 32's to the 57" Ultrawide and love it. Getting 140 FOV and don't miss the triples at all

@DrAlanQuan

Ай бұрын

That's awesome! Glad you're enjoying the move. I am curious - you already had triple 32s which are, at the very least, a good setup. Yet, you chose to buy the 57 which is not a cheap monitor at all - what motivated you to look into and then purchase an alternative monitor setup?

@Bankai90

23 күн бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan people always throwout comments and never answer the important questions xD

@DrAlanQuan

23 күн бұрын

​@@Bankai90I know right? I'm like come onnnnnnn I want to know what the fuss is all about because I don't get it

can a 3080 support a triple sim setup with 2k monitors like the curved samsung g5

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

Easily! I run a 3070 on my daily which uses 2k screens

Hi Doc, Can you confirm if either or both Triple setups were FLAT or CURVED and if curved, were they 1800, 1500 or 1000? Thanks a bunch and keep up the good work! :-) (Greetings from Canada)

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

👋 hello! All the screens are curved. The triple 32s are 1500R All the other screens are 1800R Thanks for commenting and see you in the next video :D

Between the triple ultrawide and triple 32", I would have thought the ultrawide was a silly option as it costs you more pixels for less vertical FOV. I just thought it'd all be negatives. But something I think I can see in your comparison is that you get a better view in the center monitor. Like there is better depth perception or something. How did this feel in person? Is it just something that only comes off in the video and not in reality? Just wondering because arguably the center monitor is the most important for actually driving.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Ok there's a couple of factors to unpack regarding triple ultrawides vs. 32s First, the ultrawides are wider - which means the bezels get pushed out sideways, and also the side monitors can reach out further towards the driver. The ultrawides can easily reach past my ears if I have the centre monitor close enough - but I don't need images behind my head. What I can then do is push the centre monitor further away from me yet still have the side monitors exactly at my ears like the 32s. So the ultrawides are further away than the 32s, and since the bezels are further out to the side but also further away - they end up roughly in the same place from the driver's eye. The extra distance from eye to monitor means less eye strain, but the restricted vertical FOV feels a bit claustrophobic and I MUCH prefer having the extra height that the 32s offer. Having tried all these configurations, triple regular 16:9 monitors absolutely is the winner for me (32"s in my case, but 43"s and 50"s if the space allowed would also be great). In practice, all three monitor setups feel 'right' when driving - the most glaring difference is that the 49" is incapable of showing cars at your side which is what I focused on in this video. Glad you brought this up! Thank you

@layingblacklines

5 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan Brilliant reply, thanks! Maybe 4:3 monitors would be ideal for triples, if they were still made. If you can only get a maximum 60 degrees horizontal on each monitor, you might as well have them taller.

Goodnight friend! What is the best 32-inch curved monitor to buy today, is 1440p the best option?

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Hello! I have not tested many different monitors, just what you see in the video. I do think for 32", 1440p resolution is perfect. It looks really good even when close to your eye. 4K might look slightly better but needs a lot more power to run.

Great video! I'm planning on getting 3 x 32 inch monitors on 7900 XT GPU. I already have 2 monitors laying around that I want to use. One is 144 Hz while the other is only 75Hz. Does anyone know if AMD can handle the different refresh rates, or will I be stuck on 75Hz only? Thanks in advance

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I can't answer you but I hope someone here can!

@AintNoHer0

5 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan No problem, thanks for replying!

The new 57” super ultra wide is much more an appropriate comparison. I replaced my 49 with the 57 and is night and day difference

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I'm really glad you experienced a worthwhile upgrade! I would love to test the Samsung 57" and if you could put in a good word with Samsung to send me one I would be extremely grateful! I have no doubt the 57" is a good product, but the cost is significant and definitely a barrier for me. Thank you for watching and commenting!

In triple screen setup, witch is the best, flat or curved screen? Thank's

@DrAlanQuan

Ай бұрын

Honestly, I don't think it makes any difference at all. I'd get whatever is cheaper at the time

Has anyone worked out how to add a couple 27” to the side of the super ultrawide?

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I've seen people do it but I'm not sure how they're pulling it off. It's not something I would do personally, or in the studio though.

No $2000 57” to also include in this? Just goofin, great video! Just curious what angle you recommend on triple 32, (please state if angle is from the inside or outside of screens)

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Man I'd love to test the 57" - if you'd like to see it assessed please contact Samsung and ask them to send me one! As for angle, I've run them at all different angles and I currently have them at 66° measured at the VESA mounting plates and I really like them there

Could you do one with the new 55" Super ultrawide and also the Samsung Ark? I think the results would be different for those two too.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

I definitely can! Just need Samsung to come to the party and provide the hardware. I don't have a need for such monitors myself so I don't see myself purchasing them. But if you'd like to see them in the mix you can put in a good word with Samsung for me!

Very very good explanation and side by side comparisons. Now I have to decide which triples or even Samsung's new 57inch or something haha😅

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

Decisions, decisions! Each option will have its strengths - if you get the 57 please check in and let me know how you go!

Which model are your 32” Gigabyte monitors?

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

G32QC 👍

The issue is the bezels, no matter how much better the fov is the bezels just kill the Immersion for me. I've tried every setup you can imagine and the bezels are just too much to deal with. Even when lined up perfectly they will always be off slightly depending on which section you have chosen to line up. The biggest issue is when taking tight turns the bezel can be right in the middle of the turn which is a massive annoyance. A single ultrawide with radar and mirrors is the sweet spot for me. What we really need are massive curved ultrawides that wrap around you but can't see that type of monitor ever being released due to the very niche market.

@DrAlanQuan

Ай бұрын

Hi Jonny, it's a very personal thing and unfortunate that the bezels are so bothersome for you because aside from the bezels, triples are a great and cost effective option. I personally found the bezels to drive me crazy if the screens are further away - if the screens are moved closer to me the bezels move outboard and are quickly forgotten. I did find the Asus bezel free kit to help A TON when the bezels were super visible. Have you tried VR? A lot of commenters suggest it but I haven't given it a good go yet

@jonnylaris

Ай бұрын

@DrAlanQuan yea I race in VR sometimes but it's not ideal either for comfort reasons mainly. Once the headsets get lighter and the fov increases they could be a game changer but right now a big screen / ultrawide is my first go to for a smooth comfortable experience. Wanted to mention other big plus with one monitor is the higher fps as I like to have at least 120 to reduce input delay and frame times.

which 32" monitors are used in the video?

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Those are Gigabyte G32QC 👍 solid product, I've been happy with them

I think your image is stretched on the triple 35" ultrawide or the FOVs are different between your cockpits. Otherwise you would see more of the side mirrors on the center monitor, when compared to the center 32"

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Hi Fleet, yes your observations are correct. A few others have pointed this out as well. The 35s are set up to be further away from the driver, and the side angle is shallower as well. The 35s were trailered into my studio directly from the RaceKraft sim centre, fully assembled - so it's built to sim centre spec to cater for all customers of all sizes. My 32s are built to my personal spec which is quite a bit tighter, and this explains the inconsistency you've observed. So not a truly 100% ruthlessly scientific comparison, but my focus on this video was to demonstrate the 49" versus triples in general. And other viewers have correctly identified that there are issues with my 49" FOV as well 😂 The next comparison I do will be perfect, surely 😂

@fleetc

5 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan Thank you, but still a very useful comparison. Looking forward to the next comparison. Cheers.

Do you also have GT3 comparising video's?

@DrAlanQuan

4 ай бұрын

Hi Danny I do not, because I am terrible in GT3s. That said, I'm trying to get a Samsung 57" in for testing and if that video goes ahead I'll do a GT3 scenario for you :)

@dannyjansen4877

4 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan thank you very much

Good Video! I I would also like to have large room possibilities like yours.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Thank you very much! Yes the large space is a joy to use. Funny enough it's also fun to clean. Roll all the rigs to one side, get an extra long extension cord and just vacuum and vacuum and vacuum hahaha

I didn't see it covered, but IRacing has a simulated triple-render setting that works outstanding on the 49" ultrawide.

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

That sounds to me like it would look like you're racing through the view of a fisheye lens. I'll play with the settings next time I'm in the studio and see what happens. It will certainly be a departure from an accurate 1:1 projection of the real world through the monitor but sounds like it could provide meaningful racing information to the driver. Thanks for bringing this to my attention!

On slow mo replay I notice the triple ultrawides don't show quite as wide a FOV to the side as the triple 32's. Can you explain the reason for this? PS: I like the vertical immersion that comes along with triple 32s being that bit taller. Just trying to understand how the view to the side is a LITTLE wider on the 32s vs the triple ultrawides... Thanks mate :)

@DrAlanQuan

5 ай бұрын

Hi Seatslider, good observation. The answer is quite simple - the ultrawides were setup with both a shallower side monitor angle, as well as being further from the driver's eyes. This was not intended as a ruthlessly scientific comparison - rather a quick look at 3 different real world monitor setups. The triple ultrawides were transported directly from RaceKraft into my studio fully assembled - so they were not built in the same manner as my personal monitor setup. They are really comfortable to look at, and easy to get in and out (critical for customers of all sizes to use with ease). Ultimately though, triple anything works really well. Single anything is comparatively restricting.

@seatslider

5 ай бұрын

@@DrAlanQuan awesome! I was being nitpicky out of curiosity. I’m on a 24” single screen. Yet to drop my money on the simrigs website. Great you picked up some shortfalls in the design. I’ve been wondering why there hasn’t been a review of simrigs yet. So glad you showed all the details. Great review! And great work Derek. I’ll be buying once my situation allows.

Which of the 3 setups would you say is the closest to how one sees when he/she is actually sitting in the cockpit, without turning his/her head?

@DrAlanQuan

3 ай бұрын

Easily the triple 32 - because of the added vertical height which in an open wheeler car shows more sky. The other monitors are not very tall so the screen cuts off and you just see the ceiling of your room. I haven't used anything super large like 50+" though

There’s also the 57” curved monitor from Samsung. Still not wide enough for my flight sim cockpit. Three 34 inch 4K monitors is my preference. I have seriously considered the 57” though. It would make life a lot easier as far as GPU’s are considered. Just miss the peripheral vision in X-Plane 11.

@DrAlanQuan

2 ай бұрын

I would never have thought anybody would say the 57" is gentle on the graphics card. Dual 4K is a lot of pixels!

@cecielhelder5923

2 ай бұрын

That’s why we have the 4090. I’m holding out for a one screen solution with three 4K panels. My 4090 can handle that today. Few years down the road with 5090 and 6090 cards it should be even easier. At a cost of course.@@DrAlanQuan