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Really great Alan. How did the weight of the rim affect the overall ffb/experience?
@DrAlanQuan7 сағат бұрын
On the DD1 it's no problem in the slightest. Turn the power up and you can get as much resistance as you want. The QR1 is a limiting factor because it knocks around but all the feedback is in there. Even on the Simagic Alpha Mini when you lose the rear end, it will whip the wheel around so fast. It drives just fine on the Mini as well. Current generation DD bases are really good.
@darthsnape6 сағат бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan Awesome to hear that. How much does it weigh as opposed to a traditional 330mm sim racing rim?
@DrAlanQuan6 сағат бұрын
The best I can do is compare against a basic 350mm rim (no button box, shifters, nothing) Without the Fanatec podium hub, the Toyota wheel is 1.7kg The 350mm rim is 0.9kg
@darthsnape3 сағат бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan That's quite nice considering the diameter even though it seems heavier.
@theprof1t11 сағат бұрын
This is the best and most informative comparison I have seen on this subject yet. Will be re-purposing my super ultrawide and going with triples. However, I am curious about your thoughts on the triples vs one of the newer VR headsets which have dramatically improved clarity?
@DrAlanQuan3 сағат бұрын
Hi, thank you for your kind words! I'm so glad you found the video useful/informative. When I made my initial video there were a couple of videos on the topic but each of them had certain issues that made it difficult to discern any useful conclusion from. It was really fun to test out the different configurations, race in them, and make the video - plus all the discussion/debate that comes in the comments too! I have very little experience with VR and am hoping to give VR a proper go later this year. Years ago I played GT Sport and Dirt Rally on the PSVR and there was enormous potential there, I'm sure it's a crazy amount of fun now that the tech is getting better and better. Had you felt your super ultrawide was limiting you before this video?
@antjones22812 күн бұрын
What's the diameter of that wheel?
@DrAlanQuan2 күн бұрын
It's been 360 and 370mm, it's hard to measure because the rim has a curved grip so the tape measure doesn't have anything to lock onto
@sabbirhossain36682 күн бұрын
How much did it cost?
@DrAlanQuan2 күн бұрын
I paid nothing for the wheels, they were given to me by my friends at German Motorwerks. Material costs to do the 3D printing, shifters etc probably around $20-30 total
@bearsjunky23hof882 күн бұрын
So cool
@DrAlanQuan2 күн бұрын
Thanks! I was very lucky to get my hands on these wheels and it was fun making them work!
@MikeBeeTV3 күн бұрын
I wonder if the optimal setup is a super ultrawide in the center and two ultrawides on the sides; it's the best of both worlds.
@DrAlanQuan3 күн бұрын
I would say in general, larger screens are better but also that having 3 of the same size screen is best just because the software is designed for that. Mismatched monitor widths just sound like a nightmare to set up and I don't plan to ever try to do that. So triple ultrawide, triple super ultrawide, triple gigantic tv, triple 32s will all be fantastic imo
@jassonco3 күн бұрын
5-8 newton meters....stay with a T300? This beast is finally available in the US yaay!
@DrAlanQuan3 күн бұрын
I did test the T300 against a bunch of DDs as well as the Logitech G29 in my Moza C5 review. The T300 definitely holds its own and is a huge step up from the G29. The step from T300 to DD is nowhere near as big. I would be happy racing on a T300 honestly. The only downside is the rim ecosystem
@antjones22813 күн бұрын
Love it, most people will never understand how addicting it is once you learn how to create doodads like this yourself. Since learning Fusion, ive created so many things that have solved so many issues its crazy.
@DrAlanQuan3 күн бұрын
Man it never stops. My printers may sit idle for a few weeks at a time but new reasons to fire them up again always pop up! Love it
@jcon6544 күн бұрын
Hello Dr. Quan. I just purchased the dji rs3 mini. Your printed briefcase looks to be an incredible asset. Truly impressive. I visit your website and was unable to locate the download. Can you please assist me?
@DrAlanQuan4 күн бұрын
Hi! I took the download down last month or so, let me see if I can find it again. If I don't have an update in 24 hours please message me again to remind me!
@jcon6544 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan Amazing thank you for your efforts! I’ll follow up with you. Thank you!
@ShawnT0075 күн бұрын
triple 48 oled 120hz is the best
@DrAlanQuan5 күн бұрын
Why stop at 48? Triple anything is really good 👍
@bikerjack17 күн бұрын
I see you have listed in equipment used an Intel 10600K & Nvidia 3070. Is this running the 3 x 32's ? I was understanding I needed Intel 1440 and 4080 as a minimum.
@DrAlanQuan5 күн бұрын
4080s only came out a year and a bit ago, but people have been running triple 1440s for years on 20 series cards maybe even older than that too My 3070 does 100+fps at triple 1440, which is good enough for me :)
@Colin_Barnes7 күн бұрын
I'm so glad i did happen to choose for triples back when i built my rig, especially after seeing this, i knew triples would have a better fov but this makes it so so clear, the difference is way bigger then i had imagined. The ease of only having to deal with 1 monitor almost made me buy a 49". But after everything is set up, having to deal with 3 isn't that bad anyway. Awesome video, thank a lot. Greetings from a felllow iracing f3 lover.
@DrAlanQuan5 күн бұрын
Hi Colin, definitely a good thing that you went with triples! Yes they take up more space and aligning them is not easy, but the FOV difference is staggering. Still, every setup has is advantages and a lot of people love their single screen rigs - no judgement from me! Love that F3 :)
@mcbain07 күн бұрын
Sorry one more question. I see you have the pedal plate - which I didn't end up going with. With no pedal plate, can I still mount the Moza CRP pedals to them? They are top mounted
@DrAlanQuan7 күн бұрын
No problem at all my friend! I was told that the pedal plate is a standard inclusion (it comes in a separate box but it should be delivered with every XR1). With that in mind, you can choose whether or not to use it, so there should be no issue mounting the CRPs that I can think of :)
@mcbain07 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan Thanks. I bought one and I can see that it doens't come with a heel plate - I can see it listed seperately on their website now.
@mcbain07 күн бұрын
I can see at 04:51 the pedals are mounted directly between the two bars. Maybe I don't need the plate. Did you fix them into the T Nuts? Sorry I'm finding it difficult to figure out how to do this part because the standard build video doesn't have enough info.
@DrAlanQuan7 күн бұрын
Yes the pedals mount into T nuts that are supplied with the XR1. I hope it all goes smoothly for you! I'll do what I can to help if needed, but the simrigs guys are really good for support too 👍
@mcbain07 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan Thanks mate, appreciate it. The XR1 build videos didn't show putting t nuts in there to mount the pedals so wanted to be sure.
@mcbain08 күн бұрын
hi i bought this, do you know how to attach the mount/slider to the cockpit?
@DrAlanQuan8 күн бұрын
Hi McBain, I'm not sure what you're talking about - is it a seat slider that you're trying to attach? If that's the case, you'll need to space the seat mounting profiles along the chassis such that they match up with mounting holes in the seat slider, then bolt them down. Hope this helps, and if it doesn't then please try to narrow down your query :)
@RafaelOliviera9528 күн бұрын
do u have a setup profile for iracing ?
@DrAlanQuan8 күн бұрын
I don't think so, I took the C5 off the rig a while ago and I'm sure there's been a Cammus software update since so the profile might be reset. It doesn't need much tuning from defaults anyway - just turn up the power to 80% and a couple of adjustments here and there, and it races well
@Sim.Drifter_Yt10 күн бұрын
Bu hidroliklerin yedeğini nerden bulabilirim bir p1000i ye sahibim
@DrAlanQuan10 күн бұрын
I'm sorry I don't understand your question or its translation. I would ask your local Simagic distributor. Good luck!
@EndGame896810 күн бұрын
Where can I find the file for that wheel stand?
@DrAlanQuan10 күн бұрын
I designed it myself and put it online, but I took it down after I discovered it would wear out over time and lose its ability to securely hold the wheel. Somebody did a remix which is still up here: www.thingiverse.com/thing:6433763 but I haven't tested it myself - this is an older design that is not compatible with the new, larger QR that came with the GT Neo by the way I made a new version that is compatible with the GT Neo but again, it wears out, so that file is just for me :)
@EndGame89689 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan thanks for the reply! I just had the VNM wheel and base come in. I'm very happy with it.
@DrAlanQuan9 күн бұрын
Oh nice! Do you have any other VNM products? I've been really impressed with the level of support VNM offer and I think the VNM DD is a very solid purchase. 32Nm is way more than I need though 😂
@EndGame89689 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuanI've got the brakes, and likely buy the handbrake and shifter in the future, but I largely stick to open wheel. The brakes are very good. High quality and performance at a slightly lower price point. VNM just need to get their name out more!
@DrAlanQuan9 күн бұрын
Open wheel is fun (and my favourite racing), but some variation definitely keeps things interesting. I have the shifter and handbrake and it gives lots of options especially for things like rally which is what I loved racing 19 years ago
@againstall4agsandtrans51111 күн бұрын
Bro I need this. How do i purchase but in black
@DrAlanQuan11 күн бұрын
Where are you located? You can download the files and 3D print them yourself, but if you're local to me I may be able to print a set for you cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/fanatec-formula-grip-upgrade-complete-collection
@againstall4agsandtrans51111 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan bro I have no idea about 3d printing or have access to one. I'm from UK. I'll be happy to pay for postage
@DrAlanQuan11 күн бұрын
For the price of my print plus postage, you could get yourself a nice kit from Pineapple Grips who is local to you. You could always use this as an opportunity to learn 3D printing though, and if you download my files you can print all sorts of different designs in different sizes and really nail down what you want your wheel to be. I find the process of building and installing the grips to be great fun, you might enjoy it too
@milosmatty11 күн бұрын
Nice design! Have you made also grips for the older Clubsport Formula Wheel Black/V1?
@DrAlanQuan11 күн бұрын
Hi Matteo, I have confirmed fitment with eSports V1, and formula V2 (PS and Xbox versions) with my own testing. I have made design changes to improve compatibility when I discover any problems, and I update the download file with the improved files - see this short video kzread.infouPnWv2B4sOQ?si=pUIjgAWqV1xFAbyi I am 95% certain it will work straight away with the Formula Black V1, because Fanatec has kept a lot of the design exactly the same after all these years. If there are any fitment issues send me photos and I will fix it and send you the updated files :)
@milosmatty11 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan appreciate it, thanks!
@LucasJodokast12 күн бұрын
just picked up a WRX Seat for $50 AUD, gonna make the height adjustable as i dont want to commit to dimensions until im sitting in it, cheers for the video, made me pull the trigger on using a real car seat
@DrAlanQuan12 күн бұрын
That's awesome man. You got a great seat, at an awesome price, and you'll get a fun DIY project out of it too. An amazing situation! Have fun :)
@intermsofreality12 күн бұрын
How did you get those VNM pedals in blue?
@DrAlanQuan12 күн бұрын
Those are a special edition that VNM make for RaceKraft and come fully upgraded from the factory with dampers on throttle and clutch, and a different elastomer setup. You can build your own VNM pedals to the same spec by adding the dampers and changing the elastomers, just without the blue faces or the RaceKraft laser engraving on the pedal plates
@bmorr14 күн бұрын
What kind of GPU and CPU do you need to run triples?
@DrAlanQuan13 күн бұрын
I am not well qualified to answer that, I don't have a lot of experience with PCs. That said, computers are so strong these days pretty much anything can work. One of the PCs I used was from 2015 with a Quadro K2200 and ran triple 1080s at 30fps which was completely usable. It just gets better from there!
@onky0514 күн бұрын
Can you make comparison between P1000 & VNM lite pedals? Both are in same budget range, one side Simagic provides modular solution and other side VNM has solid design. Comparison would be interesting.
@DrAlanQuan13 күн бұрын
Check out this review kzread.info/dash/bejne/c3aOrdxxYdaeiNo.htmlsi=tf0ZIaA-Z4xlVMcF he found a Reddit post I made a while ago making that comparison!
@slaphead9014 күн бұрын
Great review, but I have to say your comment on the clutch surprised me. Every manual car I've driven has had a clutch which feels non linear - light initial due to the take up, stiff as you begin to disengage, and then gradually lightening again as the clutch becomes fully disengaged. I've never experienced a linear clutch. Then again all of my driving experience comes from cars manufactured well over 25 years ago - no ABS, no traction or stability control, and mostly no power steering. The only assistance being a vacuum servo for the brakes.
@DrAlanQuan14 күн бұрын
Hi Slaphead, thanks for commenting. I figured if all the pedal manufacturers are building in this mechanism, there must be some basis in truth for it. My biggest experience with a manual vehicle was my 2007 Evo 9, I had 3 clutches in that over 11 years and I raced it at my local circuit (my earliest videos on the channel include it). 2 of the clutches were sprung organic plate, and one was an unsprung twin plate metallic clutch (an Ogura 559 to be exact) and all of them had a progressive clutch feel. The only vehicles I've driven with that ptonounced clutch drop off are very unexciting rental type vehicles (VW golf, Suzuki Swift etc) and that's not what I want in my sim. I want my old race car back! I'm glad we're able to have this conversation though. I seem to be in the minority about clutch feel but that's why I make these reviews - they are my reviews after all and if my preferences don't match yours (or others) then you know what to listen to and what to dismiss! What do you drive these days? I've long since sold the Evo, now I cruise around in a lovely automatic 2015 5 series
@slaphead9014 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan I don't actually drive these days, actually I haven't for around 18 years. I moved from the UK to Switzerland, and honestly anywhere I want to go to I can get there faster and cheaper with public transport than if I had my own car.
@DrAlanQuan14 күн бұрын
Wow that's really cool!
@demechelsegamecat651814 күн бұрын
Another great review 😊
@DrAlanQuan14 күн бұрын
😊 thank you!
@GregoryShtevensh15 күн бұрын
Do you think you'll do round grips (round wheel mod) for the e sports rim?
@DrAlanQuan15 күн бұрын
Hi Gregory, my update went live last night. Now fully compatible with F1 eSports rim including the full round rim, and as an extra bonus I've included a version which is divided into smaller parts so even Mini printers can take it on with no reduction in strength! Handy for people who don't have obscenely large printers. Have at it!
@GregoryShtevensh15 күн бұрын
Thanks that's awesome! This is the rim my Dad uses
@GregoryShtevensh15 күн бұрын
Yeah it's got metal all the way through (full tang) haha
@DrAlanQuan15 күн бұрын
Yeah, even the plastics and fasteners are higher quality. It was very eye opening to see the change between the two when I would have thought the V2 was the new, improved, more premium rim. Turns out they got clever at making the new rim for cheap. Not saying it's not fit for purpose, but there's no denying the quality shift between the two. I'm guessing the F1 eSports V2 is built more like the Formula V2 but I haven't disassembled one myself
@RJR98115 күн бұрын
great video mate, always top quality. id love to move over to simagic myself but sadly i need console compatibility. were these USB pedals or did you ever try plug them into your dd1? i also see now they have a rgb kit for them which only tempts me more haha.
@DrAlanQuan15 күн бұрын
Hi Bob 👋 These are USB, there is no RJ12 option to even try plugging them into the DD1. If you're wanting console (PlayStation at least) compatibility you can go to a full Simagic setup and use a Sigma Cortex converter. Oh yes, things just got expensive for you hahaha
@DrR1pper15 күн бұрын
Time for Simagic to drop you the hydraulic brake and throttle upgrades as well as inversion kit for review too.
@DrAlanQuan15 күн бұрын
That would be very interesting! Let's see what happens
@DrR1pper15 күн бұрын
*Hint-Hint, Wink-Wink Simagic* 👀
@wwvvww57315 күн бұрын
High quality content! I wish i've had seen this earlier. To my right there is a LC POWER '49 and i wasn't aware of what i'm missing.
@DrAlanQuan15 күн бұрын
49s are still good screens so I'm sure you are enjoying benefits there, but for racing I much prefer triples and it's not even remotely close. Thanks for the comment!
@wwvvww57314 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan the issue of the necessity of high cpu & gpu power remains for me. I've heard that (in my case) 33% increase in pixels leads to ~33% in FPS loss. I'd fall far below the 90 FPS mark, which to me is the minimum for sim racing. And lowering the graphics quality would kill more immersion, than the triples would add. But for the future you definitely inspired me to upgrade as soon as the components for that become more affordable :) I'd say GTX 3060 ti is simply not enough for full hd triples on mid to high graphics settings in iRacing.
@DrAlanQuan14 күн бұрын
@@wwvvww573 do you need mid-high iracing graphics? When I was doing my graphics testing I really didn't mind low settings at all, but with my 3070 I found I was able to run triple 1440s with ease, with settings I liked, at 120+fps. A 3060Ti isn't far behind, and if you're getting triple 1080s that's even less pixels to drive. But that was before rain and admittedly I haven't done a lot of driving in iracing since the rain update so maybe performance has changed
@lllFeanorlll15 күн бұрын
Who.. races wearing sneakers? How can you feel the brake?
@DrAlanQuan15 күн бұрын
Wait till you see the shoes I use here 😂 kzread.info/dash/bejne/rI2hlqZuZbjAdpM.htmlsi=HSHYbV-3CdzJbj2s But basically there's no problem, I race just fine :) What do you wear when you race?
@lllFeanorlll15 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan just socks usually. Though for longer endurance races where I want a little more padding I have a pair of water shoes because I didn't feel like paying $169 for a pair of Sparcos 😂
@DrAlanQuan15 күн бұрын
@@lllFeanorlllI used to race in just socks but if you heel and toe, your feet get ruined fast. Do what works for you! I too don't see a need for Sparco shoes, but I do enjoy using FIA-spec OMP gloves. It's a little bit of race spec self love that I can really see and feel every time I'm in the sim :D
@kennyfrankovich550715 күн бұрын
Love your reviews keep it up! I have these and am waiting on the rig to set them up and use them. Can’t wait!
@DrAlanQuan15 күн бұрын
Very solid choice, do you think you would mount with the side plates or through the pedal base itself? The clutch and throttle blocking the mounting holes was annoying to me but don't know if it would be an issue at all for you.
@AshBhang201015 күн бұрын
Getting these ! ! 🏁🏎 🏎 🏎 🏁
@DrAlanQuan15 күн бұрын
Heck yeah 🔥
@intermsofreality15 күн бұрын
I love extruded aluminum. It's like the metal equivalent of a 2x4 in the world of DIY projects.
@DrAlanQuan15 күн бұрын
Man, it really is. I like to think of it as gigantic Lego
@imJGott15 күн бұрын
ive been eyeing this for quite a while but i will be getting the inverted version
@DrAlanQuan15 күн бұрын
Solid choice! I haven't seen the inverted version but given the fit and finish of the standard review unit I'm sure it will be built really solidly.
@ashcountach168415 күн бұрын
I've had the Inverted version for the past 5 months and I really like them. I had the Fanatec V3s' for about 5 years and this is a nice improvement.
@twistedbdo575516 күн бұрын
Using a jack to lift the rig is the smartest thing ever and ima use that idea for the future lol. Happy you included timelaps
@DrAlanQuan15 күн бұрын
Extra points if your chassis is raised and you use a jack that can just slide under the rig. I'm using an old regular height trolley jack and the rig needs to be deadlifted onto the jack because there's not enough clearance hahaha
@twistedbdo575515 күн бұрын
@DrAlanQuan lol. Yea I have a few low profile jacks that can fit under
@duanedrummond936117 күн бұрын
Does anybody know if the triples are curved?
@DrAlanQuan17 күн бұрын
All the screens in this video are curved. The 32s are 1500R, and the other screens I don't recall exactly but I think they were 1800R
@RogerKnowsTech17 күн бұрын
Great video. I would have loved to see how drift racing is compared. I would assume since you’re putting the car doors close to each other it would make a big difference. Tough choice for me.
@DrAlanQuan17 күн бұрын
More FOV is better since you're literally looking out the side windows so much. Not a tough choice - triple 32s 👍 haha Thanks for the comment! If I do a follow up video on this topic I'll try to include drift scenarios :)
@RogerKnowsTech17 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan😂 true.. thank you so much for the info.
@RogerKnowsTech17 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuanwhat curvature do you recommend?
@DrAlanQuan17 күн бұрын
@@RogerKnowsTech I honestly don't think it makes a difference, so choose what you think looks cool and/or what's cheapest
@RogerKnowsTech17 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuanthank you!
@bobfunk505518 күн бұрын
I really thought I had seen it all, this is amazing! What will you do with all that space?
@DrAlanQuan18 күн бұрын
I've actually moved out of that space, there were air conditioning issues and the Australian summer is unforgiving! But it was a big space which gave me lots of room to move equipment about freely and do some creative photography. My current studio space is much tighter which poses logistical challenges but the air conditioning is great hahaha
@andrewmilne279119 күн бұрын
Best video showing the comparisons, thank you
@DrAlanQuan18 күн бұрын
You're welcome, and thank you so much for sharing the love! I hope you have a great day
@DrR1pper19 күн бұрын
Actual Formula steering wheels in F1 are 300mm though, just like the Neo.
@DrAlanQuan18 күн бұрын
Yeah a few people have mentioned that in their comments. I just made the observation myself when switching between 270mm and 300mm wheels, I found the 270mm worked fine but the 300mm was pushing the limits of leg clearance in my own cockpit. Always happy to be corrected if I make a mistake! Thanks for commenting. What are your thoughts on the GT Neo?
@DrR1pper16 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan I don't have the GT Neo but I like the look and idea of it. I'm currently using the CLS DD 8Nm with Formula V2.5 and I also have and previously used the DD with the 300mm Fanatec McLaren V2 wheel. But I found too big for the CLS DD, watering down the FFB strength too much and eventually getting the Formula V2.5 confirmed that for me. I've been thinking of upgrading to a Simagic wheelbase but torn between the Mini and Alpha. You're review here was very helpful in settling the window-shopping debate I was having about whether to go with an FX or Neo, so many thanks for that!
@DrAlanQuan16 күн бұрын
@DrR1pper I'm glad the video provided some meaningful information for you! Any of the Simagic equipment will be an upgrade to the Fanatec gear you've used already, the question is how far up the Simagic food chain do you want to go? Good luck!
@cryptic_dingo19 күн бұрын
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you've not adjusted the FOV relative to the horizontal and aspect ratio (easily seen in the video) so you're 35 ultra wide (horizontal pixels 3x3440) shows less information in the FoV than your 32" 16:9 monitors (horizontal pixels 3x2560). That just isn't factual if the FoV is adjusted for the horizontal and aspect as the 35" ultra wide setup has more pixels to work with on the horizontal, and therefore will show MORE information in a properly adjusted field of view. A monitor has <x> amount of horizontal pixels to work with. The Samsung 57" super ultra wide for example has 7680 pixels on the horizontal, and you're 3x 32" monitors have 2560 pixels on the horizontal, so they have the same 7680 pixels on the horizontal to work with as the Samsung super ultra wide. If FoV is adjusted relative to the horizontal and aspect for both setups, you'd get the exact same information displayed for the FoV on both, at least as far as the horizontal is concerned. The 57" would have more on the vertical though which while nice in some ways, would require more GPU power to drive, so it's give and take. If however someone had triple 1080p monitors, regardless of the fact it's a triple monitor setup, they still would have only 5760 pixels to work with on the horizontal, so once the FoV calc is adjusted for the size and aspect of the monitor(s) to reflect the correct FoV, they would display LESS in their FoV than the 57" super ultra wide, despite it being a triple monitor setup. Hope that makes sense ... It was an interesting video all the same, just not entirely accurate in what you were trying to demonstrate :)
@DrAlanQuan18 күн бұрын
Hi Cryptic Dingo, thanks for commenting! In my opinion, you have a mix of correct and incorrect points and I'll try to address them. You are right, my triple 35"s show less than the triple 32"s when they should show more - IF the driver head position is the same for both setups. However, the driver eye to screen distance for the 32"s is quite short (within arms reach) and the eye to screen distance for the 35"s is much longer. The reason for this is the 32"s are my own personal setup tuned for my preferences, and the 35"s are exactly as configured when delivered by RaceKraft - and they have theirs set up for many customers to easily get in and out of the cockpits in their sim centre. The net result is the screens are further away, so show less. Think of a small window in a cafe - if you're far away from it, you can't see much out of it, but if you get up real nice and close you can see almost everything outside - this is the effect that distance from the eyes has. Should I have corrected the FOV settings to match the same driver distance? For a pure scientific comparison, yes I should have. But I was just filming a comparison of 3 cockpit setups that I had running side by side - all 3 were working well in their own way, and I started filming. Several eagle eyed viewers including yourself asked about the 35s showing less than the 32s which is great - it shows you are watching but also applying your knowledge and asking questions when things don't appear to match up - I love that! Now onto your topic about resolution - I am absolutely confident about this, but please let me know your thoughts. Resolution has nothing to do with FOV, what matters is SCREEN SIZE. Let's take my 32"s as comparison - they have 2560x1440 resolution - so does my 6" phone. If I had the 6" phones set up as triples, at the same distance from my eyes as the 32"s would I have the same FOV? Absolutely not, the phone screens are tiny, even though they have the same resolution - and if they are my window into viewing the world, I'll see barely anything. If I have 3 projectors, each 1920x1080, but projecting triple 100" screens I could make an ENORMOUS game world with huge FOV even though the resolution is smaller. BTW the triple 35"s actually have a resolution of 2560x1080, so they have the exact same horizontal resolution as my triple 32"s - but again it's not about resolution, it's about screen size - and the 35"s are WIDER than my 32s, so they should show more FOV but only if the eye to screen distance is the same. As for the 57" - again we can ignore the resolution, but the issue with the 57" is that it doesn't wrap around you like triples do, so it will not show as much FOV. The screen just isn't in the correct space around the driver's head to show someone driving alongside them. FOV is not about resolution. It's about screen size AND distance from eye to screen. Resolution just makes things look clearer. Thanks so much for your comment, I'd love to hear your thoughts on my reply :)
@cryptic_dingo17 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan Thanks for taking the time to respond. Just based on what I could see I took a stab the 35's had more than your 32's on the horizontal, I knew yours were 2560, so made the assumption they would be 3440 on the horizontal. Re your iPhone 6" screen example. If you adjust the viewing distance to accomodate for the physical size and had them angled to cover the same viewable angular range, then yes, 100% they would have the same FoV. You probably wouldn't want to sit there with iPhones rigged up as monitors right up in your face, but you could, and you'd have the same information displayed (resolution) in the same angular range (fov). Those 3 x 1080p 100in projectors you mentioned, regardless of if you set them up to the same FoV, they would show so little observable/useable information (due to lack of pixel size/density - low resolution relative to physical size) that you wouldn't really have a game world to play in. But as you rightly point out, FoV isn't about resolution! It is about what is observable within a given angular range. Perhaps I was a little fixated on thinking about how much information could be displayed on a given screen regardless of physical size. Why? Because having useable information within the FoV is kind of important. There is a reason they don't make 100" 260p OLED displays right 🤪 So, perhaps when we talk about FoV, triple screen setups vs super ultra wides, we need to address more than just the FoV alone. It's about getting usable/actionable information about the observable 'world' so we can make the best decisions based on that information, like the car coming alongside you. The 3 iPhones (though capable), or the 100in 1080p screens (also capable for FoV but not for providing useable information due to resolution, or lack thereof) are both examples of why we need to talk about these things with more context than just FoV or resolution alone. As for the 57" super ultra wide... that doesn't wrap around as much as your setup, so you're right 100% right, it wouldn't have the same FoV as the 32's because of how much more you bring those around (angular range). That said, technically, it is capable of displaying the same information as the 3x 32's (because of the resolution), just the FoV would be a little off/condensed. One could argue the information would be more usable as it more easily observed (less head turning - peripheral vision is only so good). Still, I concede that point to you Sir 😎. That said, I'd rather the single massive screen and tweak the FoV to give me just enough 'view', but without condensing information from the larger FoV (trips) too much into the slightly smaller FoV (super ultra wide). Side note: I really enjoyed watching your video and chatting with you about it. It certainly made me think, and if your video gets people thinking about these things, then one could say it did what it set out to do. Keep up the good work! 👍
20 күн бұрын
"I am not an engineer." ... then starts to engineer a proper looking bracket. 👊👊👊
@DrAlanQuan20 күн бұрын
I just wanted it to look right and work well, so I just kept throwing more and more strengthening elements until it felt right 😂
@ethanmiller358421 күн бұрын
What kind of stand do you use for the curved 32 inch triples?
@DrAlanQuan20 күн бұрын
That's a Trak Racer stand with the standard plates - the old version that isn't for sale any more
@isctony22 күн бұрын
lol, i've just had to drill all four holes in a plate for the shifter - they matched nothing for that !
@DrAlanQuan22 күн бұрын
lol, I guess it's either all or nothing with them hahahaha
@paddlehard572222 күн бұрын
This ear can be tweaked with some cooling and speed, but I wonder what can recover a total loss of detail in screen bottom -the pink model 06:41
@DrAlanQuan21 күн бұрын
I'm not a tuning pro, I wish I could guide the printers into being perfect 😂
@paddlehard572220 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan Since you have replied, I'd like to share with you an extraordinary thing I have discovered. I struggle with V400 for more than a year already. Loss of details, whole lot of ringing everywhere, I was ready to give up and get me a proper corexy. But, I have just recently discovered a new firmware from FLSun. I use this printer a lot, with all it's flaws, but now I can tell you - THIS IS NOW A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRINTER with a new firmware. It would certainly drive your review to totally different experience. It makes me wanna cry when I think of all those unslept nights trying to unsuccessfully adjust it to decent quality. Cheers!
@DrAlanQuan20 күн бұрын
@@paddlehard5722 is it a simple process to upgrade the firmware? I've literally never updated a Klipper print before. Is it just downloaded via the touchscreen or do I need to load a USB drive manually? I'm glad to hear a firmware update helps so much!
@paddlehard572219 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan Hold on, I'll write you some truthful details about upgrade and performance after some time of testing. There are news, but I have yet to see in which segment and how beneficial. For now I can only say, my personal nature payed me once again - childish enthusiastic glee until shovel hits me. Anyways, my first impression which I wrote you should not be totally ignored :)
@stevep92723 күн бұрын
DO you own a drill ?
@DrAlanQuan23 күн бұрын
Yes, I have two 👍 Do you?
@stevep92723 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan You mean balls yep I have two
@xDriver69x23 күн бұрын
Another great personalization I didn't know I absolutely needed till now. I have certainly noticed the V2.5X being much stiffer, but this should help stiffen my open bottom rims, Plus with courses needing hand over hand tight sections, a little more grip space than the left and right edges will be nice to try out. Just have to finish designing and printing some stuff I'm working on.
@DrAlanQuan23 күн бұрын
Thanks for your kind words! What projects are you working on at the moment? Also what printer are you using? I'm releasing an update this week with designs that cater to people with small printers like a Prusa Mini - but if you have a large printer that has a 290+mm bed the file package is fully ready to go now. All updates are free though and I'd love to get your feedback once you try them!
@xDriver69x22 күн бұрын
@@DrAlanQuan I have an AnkerMake M5. I have no idea where the fits on the size scale. It's new and I just started this week FreeCAD modelling. I have solved multiple issue for optimal placement of gear for my TrakRacer TRX tube sim rig so far, but as I am learning, I'm getting quicker, and seeing how to solve lots of interesting "organic" style solutions. I also just purchased your Complete Wheel Pack and likely tomorrow will have a moment to look and likely start a print for the night. So many designs to try, so little time. Plus I have to order inserts
@DrAlanQuan22 күн бұрын
Sounds like you're on a roll with your design and printing, please send photos of your completed formula rim! The only hardware you absolutely need are M3 X 12mm socket head cap screws which are easy to source, but a few M2 threaded inserts and M2 x 12mms will give you a bit more of a tighter finished product. But don't be shy about printing and using them without the inserts
@cartofromanesc670424 күн бұрын
i have been considering to buy triples for racing but i heard they suck a lot of performance out of your pc so i have been leaning to the samsung odyssey g9
@DrAlanQuan24 күн бұрын
Graphics cards have been powerful enough for many years now, but yes a single screen will use less horsepower than triples. Whatever you decide, have fun!
@bmorr25 күн бұрын
Drove down to the junkyard yesterday and picked up a nice Subaru Forester seat with plenty of adjustment. It only cost me $25. I am so thankful for this video; it saved me a ton of money!
@DrAlanQuan25 күн бұрын
That's a great deal, I'm so happy for you! Is the seat on the rig yet?
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Really great Alan. How did the weight of the rim affect the overall ffb/experience?
On the DD1 it's no problem in the slightest. Turn the power up and you can get as much resistance as you want. The QR1 is a limiting factor because it knocks around but all the feedback is in there. Even on the Simagic Alpha Mini when you lose the rear end, it will whip the wheel around so fast. It drives just fine on the Mini as well. Current generation DD bases are really good.
@@DrAlanQuan Awesome to hear that. How much does it weigh as opposed to a traditional 330mm sim racing rim?
The best I can do is compare against a basic 350mm rim (no button box, shifters, nothing) Without the Fanatec podium hub, the Toyota wheel is 1.7kg The 350mm rim is 0.9kg
@@DrAlanQuan That's quite nice considering the diameter even though it seems heavier.
This is the best and most informative comparison I have seen on this subject yet. Will be re-purposing my super ultrawide and going with triples. However, I am curious about your thoughts on the triples vs one of the newer VR headsets which have dramatically improved clarity?
Hi, thank you for your kind words! I'm so glad you found the video useful/informative. When I made my initial video there were a couple of videos on the topic but each of them had certain issues that made it difficult to discern any useful conclusion from. It was really fun to test out the different configurations, race in them, and make the video - plus all the discussion/debate that comes in the comments too! I have very little experience with VR and am hoping to give VR a proper go later this year. Years ago I played GT Sport and Dirt Rally on the PSVR and there was enormous potential there, I'm sure it's a crazy amount of fun now that the tech is getting better and better. Had you felt your super ultrawide was limiting you before this video?
What's the diameter of that wheel?
It's been 360 and 370mm, it's hard to measure because the rim has a curved grip so the tape measure doesn't have anything to lock onto
How much did it cost?
I paid nothing for the wheels, they were given to me by my friends at German Motorwerks. Material costs to do the 3D printing, shifters etc probably around $20-30 total
So cool
Thanks! I was very lucky to get my hands on these wheels and it was fun making them work!
I wonder if the optimal setup is a super ultrawide in the center and two ultrawides on the sides; it's the best of both worlds.
I would say in general, larger screens are better but also that having 3 of the same size screen is best just because the software is designed for that. Mismatched monitor widths just sound like a nightmare to set up and I don't plan to ever try to do that. So triple ultrawide, triple super ultrawide, triple gigantic tv, triple 32s will all be fantastic imo
5-8 newton meters....stay with a T300? This beast is finally available in the US yaay!
I did test the T300 against a bunch of DDs as well as the Logitech G29 in my Moza C5 review. The T300 definitely holds its own and is a huge step up from the G29. The step from T300 to DD is nowhere near as big. I would be happy racing on a T300 honestly. The only downside is the rim ecosystem
Love it, most people will never understand how addicting it is once you learn how to create doodads like this yourself. Since learning Fusion, ive created so many things that have solved so many issues its crazy.
Man it never stops. My printers may sit idle for a few weeks at a time but new reasons to fire them up again always pop up! Love it
Hello Dr. Quan. I just purchased the dji rs3 mini. Your printed briefcase looks to be an incredible asset. Truly impressive. I visit your website and was unable to locate the download. Can you please assist me?
Hi! I took the download down last month or so, let me see if I can find it again. If I don't have an update in 24 hours please message me again to remind me!
@@DrAlanQuan Amazing thank you for your efforts! I’ll follow up with you. Thank you!
triple 48 oled 120hz is the best
Why stop at 48? Triple anything is really good 👍
I see you have listed in equipment used an Intel 10600K & Nvidia 3070. Is this running the 3 x 32's ? I was understanding I needed Intel 1440 and 4080 as a minimum.
4080s only came out a year and a bit ago, but people have been running triple 1440s for years on 20 series cards maybe even older than that too My 3070 does 100+fps at triple 1440, which is good enough for me :)
I'm so glad i did happen to choose for triples back when i built my rig, especially after seeing this, i knew triples would have a better fov but this makes it so so clear, the difference is way bigger then i had imagined. The ease of only having to deal with 1 monitor almost made me buy a 49". But after everything is set up, having to deal with 3 isn't that bad anyway. Awesome video, thank a lot. Greetings from a felllow iracing f3 lover.
Hi Colin, definitely a good thing that you went with triples! Yes they take up more space and aligning them is not easy, but the FOV difference is staggering. Still, every setup has is advantages and a lot of people love their single screen rigs - no judgement from me! Love that F3 :)
Sorry one more question. I see you have the pedal plate - which I didn't end up going with. With no pedal plate, can I still mount the Moza CRP pedals to them? They are top mounted
No problem at all my friend! I was told that the pedal plate is a standard inclusion (it comes in a separate box but it should be delivered with every XR1). With that in mind, you can choose whether or not to use it, so there should be no issue mounting the CRPs that I can think of :)
@@DrAlanQuan Thanks. I bought one and I can see that it doens't come with a heel plate - I can see it listed seperately on their website now.
I can see at 04:51 the pedals are mounted directly between the two bars. Maybe I don't need the plate. Did you fix them into the T Nuts? Sorry I'm finding it difficult to figure out how to do this part because the standard build video doesn't have enough info.
Yes the pedals mount into T nuts that are supplied with the XR1. I hope it all goes smoothly for you! I'll do what I can to help if needed, but the simrigs guys are really good for support too 👍
@@DrAlanQuan Thanks mate, appreciate it. The XR1 build videos didn't show putting t nuts in there to mount the pedals so wanted to be sure.
hi i bought this, do you know how to attach the mount/slider to the cockpit?
Hi McBain, I'm not sure what you're talking about - is it a seat slider that you're trying to attach? If that's the case, you'll need to space the seat mounting profiles along the chassis such that they match up with mounting holes in the seat slider, then bolt them down. Hope this helps, and if it doesn't then please try to narrow down your query :)
do u have a setup profile for iracing ?
I don't think so, I took the C5 off the rig a while ago and I'm sure there's been a Cammus software update since so the profile might be reset. It doesn't need much tuning from defaults anyway - just turn up the power to 80% and a couple of adjustments here and there, and it races well
Bu hidroliklerin yedeğini nerden bulabilirim bir p1000i ye sahibim
I'm sorry I don't understand your question or its translation. I would ask your local Simagic distributor. Good luck!
Where can I find the file for that wheel stand?
I designed it myself and put it online, but I took it down after I discovered it would wear out over time and lose its ability to securely hold the wheel. Somebody did a remix which is still up here: www.thingiverse.com/thing:6433763 but I haven't tested it myself - this is an older design that is not compatible with the new, larger QR that came with the GT Neo by the way I made a new version that is compatible with the GT Neo but again, it wears out, so that file is just for me :)
@@DrAlanQuan thanks for the reply! I just had the VNM wheel and base come in. I'm very happy with it.
Oh nice! Do you have any other VNM products? I've been really impressed with the level of support VNM offer and I think the VNM DD is a very solid purchase. 32Nm is way more than I need though 😂
@@DrAlanQuanI've got the brakes, and likely buy the handbrake and shifter in the future, but I largely stick to open wheel. The brakes are very good. High quality and performance at a slightly lower price point. VNM just need to get their name out more!
Open wheel is fun (and my favourite racing), but some variation definitely keeps things interesting. I have the shifter and handbrake and it gives lots of options especially for things like rally which is what I loved racing 19 years ago
Bro I need this. How do i purchase but in black
Where are you located? You can download the files and 3D print them yourself, but if you're local to me I may be able to print a set for you cults3d.com/en/3d-model/game/fanatec-formula-grip-upgrade-complete-collection
@@DrAlanQuan bro I have no idea about 3d printing or have access to one. I'm from UK. I'll be happy to pay for postage
For the price of my print plus postage, you could get yourself a nice kit from Pineapple Grips who is local to you. You could always use this as an opportunity to learn 3D printing though, and if you download my files you can print all sorts of different designs in different sizes and really nail down what you want your wheel to be. I find the process of building and installing the grips to be great fun, you might enjoy it too
Nice design! Have you made also grips for the older Clubsport Formula Wheel Black/V1?
Hi Matteo, I have confirmed fitment with eSports V1, and formula V2 (PS and Xbox versions) with my own testing. I have made design changes to improve compatibility when I discover any problems, and I update the download file with the improved files - see this short video kzread.infouPnWv2B4sOQ?si=pUIjgAWqV1xFAbyi I am 95% certain it will work straight away with the Formula Black V1, because Fanatec has kept a lot of the design exactly the same after all these years. If there are any fitment issues send me photos and I will fix it and send you the updated files :)
@@DrAlanQuan appreciate it, thanks!
just picked up a WRX Seat for $50 AUD, gonna make the height adjustable as i dont want to commit to dimensions until im sitting in it, cheers for the video, made me pull the trigger on using a real car seat
That's awesome man. You got a great seat, at an awesome price, and you'll get a fun DIY project out of it too. An amazing situation! Have fun :)
How did you get those VNM pedals in blue?
Those are a special edition that VNM make for RaceKraft and come fully upgraded from the factory with dampers on throttle and clutch, and a different elastomer setup. You can build your own VNM pedals to the same spec by adding the dampers and changing the elastomers, just without the blue faces or the RaceKraft laser engraving on the pedal plates
What kind of GPU and CPU do you need to run triples?
I am not well qualified to answer that, I don't have a lot of experience with PCs. That said, computers are so strong these days pretty much anything can work. One of the PCs I used was from 2015 with a Quadro K2200 and ran triple 1080s at 30fps which was completely usable. It just gets better from there!
Can you make comparison between P1000 & VNM lite pedals? Both are in same budget range, one side Simagic provides modular solution and other side VNM has solid design. Comparison would be interesting.
Check out this review kzread.info/dash/bejne/c3aOrdxxYdaeiNo.htmlsi=tf0ZIaA-Z4xlVMcF he found a Reddit post I made a while ago making that comparison!
Great review, but I have to say your comment on the clutch surprised me. Every manual car I've driven has had a clutch which feels non linear - light initial due to the take up, stiff as you begin to disengage, and then gradually lightening again as the clutch becomes fully disengaged. I've never experienced a linear clutch. Then again all of my driving experience comes from cars manufactured well over 25 years ago - no ABS, no traction or stability control, and mostly no power steering. The only assistance being a vacuum servo for the brakes.
Hi Slaphead, thanks for commenting. I figured if all the pedal manufacturers are building in this mechanism, there must be some basis in truth for it. My biggest experience with a manual vehicle was my 2007 Evo 9, I had 3 clutches in that over 11 years and I raced it at my local circuit (my earliest videos on the channel include it). 2 of the clutches were sprung organic plate, and one was an unsprung twin plate metallic clutch (an Ogura 559 to be exact) and all of them had a progressive clutch feel. The only vehicles I've driven with that ptonounced clutch drop off are very unexciting rental type vehicles (VW golf, Suzuki Swift etc) and that's not what I want in my sim. I want my old race car back! I'm glad we're able to have this conversation though. I seem to be in the minority about clutch feel but that's why I make these reviews - they are my reviews after all and if my preferences don't match yours (or others) then you know what to listen to and what to dismiss! What do you drive these days? I've long since sold the Evo, now I cruise around in a lovely automatic 2015 5 series
@@DrAlanQuan I don't actually drive these days, actually I haven't for around 18 years. I moved from the UK to Switzerland, and honestly anywhere I want to go to I can get there faster and cheaper with public transport than if I had my own car.
Wow that's really cool!
Another great review 😊
😊 thank you!
Do you think you'll do round grips (round wheel mod) for the e sports rim?
Hi Gregory, my update went live last night. Now fully compatible with F1 eSports rim including the full round rim, and as an extra bonus I've included a version which is divided into smaller parts so even Mini printers can take it on with no reduction in strength! Handy for people who don't have obscenely large printers. Have at it!
Thanks that's awesome! This is the rim my Dad uses
Yeah it's got metal all the way through (full tang) haha
Yeah, even the plastics and fasteners are higher quality. It was very eye opening to see the change between the two when I would have thought the V2 was the new, improved, more premium rim. Turns out they got clever at making the new rim for cheap. Not saying it's not fit for purpose, but there's no denying the quality shift between the two. I'm guessing the F1 eSports V2 is built more like the Formula V2 but I haven't disassembled one myself
great video mate, always top quality. id love to move over to simagic myself but sadly i need console compatibility. were these USB pedals or did you ever try plug them into your dd1? i also see now they have a rgb kit for them which only tempts me more haha.
Hi Bob 👋 These are USB, there is no RJ12 option to even try plugging them into the DD1. If you're wanting console (PlayStation at least) compatibility you can go to a full Simagic setup and use a Sigma Cortex converter. Oh yes, things just got expensive for you hahaha
Time for Simagic to drop you the hydraulic brake and throttle upgrades as well as inversion kit for review too.
That would be very interesting! Let's see what happens
*Hint-Hint, Wink-Wink Simagic* 👀
High quality content! I wish i've had seen this earlier. To my right there is a LC POWER '49 and i wasn't aware of what i'm missing.
49s are still good screens so I'm sure you are enjoying benefits there, but for racing I much prefer triples and it's not even remotely close. Thanks for the comment!
@@DrAlanQuan the issue of the necessity of high cpu & gpu power remains for me. I've heard that (in my case) 33% increase in pixels leads to ~33% in FPS loss. I'd fall far below the 90 FPS mark, which to me is the minimum for sim racing. And lowering the graphics quality would kill more immersion, than the triples would add. But for the future you definitely inspired me to upgrade as soon as the components for that become more affordable :) I'd say GTX 3060 ti is simply not enough for full hd triples on mid to high graphics settings in iRacing.
@@wwvvww573 do you need mid-high iracing graphics? When I was doing my graphics testing I really didn't mind low settings at all, but with my 3070 I found I was able to run triple 1440s with ease, with settings I liked, at 120+fps. A 3060Ti isn't far behind, and if you're getting triple 1080s that's even less pixels to drive. But that was before rain and admittedly I haven't done a lot of driving in iracing since the rain update so maybe performance has changed
Who.. races wearing sneakers? How can you feel the brake?
Wait till you see the shoes I use here 😂 kzread.info/dash/bejne/rI2hlqZuZbjAdpM.htmlsi=HSHYbV-3CdzJbj2s But basically there's no problem, I race just fine :) What do you wear when you race?
@@DrAlanQuan just socks usually. Though for longer endurance races where I want a little more padding I have a pair of water shoes because I didn't feel like paying $169 for a pair of Sparcos 😂
@@lllFeanorlllI used to race in just socks but if you heel and toe, your feet get ruined fast. Do what works for you! I too don't see a need for Sparco shoes, but I do enjoy using FIA-spec OMP gloves. It's a little bit of race spec self love that I can really see and feel every time I'm in the sim :D
Love your reviews keep it up! I have these and am waiting on the rig to set them up and use them. Can’t wait!
Very solid choice, do you think you would mount with the side plates or through the pedal base itself? The clutch and throttle blocking the mounting holes was annoying to me but don't know if it would be an issue at all for you.
Getting these ! ! 🏁🏎 🏎 🏎 🏁
Heck yeah 🔥
I love extruded aluminum. It's like the metal equivalent of a 2x4 in the world of DIY projects.
Man, it really is. I like to think of it as gigantic Lego
ive been eyeing this for quite a while but i will be getting the inverted version
Solid choice! I haven't seen the inverted version but given the fit and finish of the standard review unit I'm sure it will be built really solidly.
I've had the Inverted version for the past 5 months and I really like them. I had the Fanatec V3s' for about 5 years and this is a nice improvement.
Using a jack to lift the rig is the smartest thing ever and ima use that idea for the future lol. Happy you included timelaps
Extra points if your chassis is raised and you use a jack that can just slide under the rig. I'm using an old regular height trolley jack and the rig needs to be deadlifted onto the jack because there's not enough clearance hahaha
@DrAlanQuan lol. Yea I have a few low profile jacks that can fit under
Does anybody know if the triples are curved?
All the screens in this video are curved. The 32s are 1500R, and the other screens I don't recall exactly but I think they were 1800R
Great video. I would have loved to see how drift racing is compared. I would assume since you’re putting the car doors close to each other it would make a big difference. Tough choice for me.
More FOV is better since you're literally looking out the side windows so much. Not a tough choice - triple 32s 👍 haha Thanks for the comment! If I do a follow up video on this topic I'll try to include drift scenarios :)
@@DrAlanQuan😂 true.. thank you so much for the info.
@@DrAlanQuanwhat curvature do you recommend?
@@RogerKnowsTech I honestly don't think it makes a difference, so choose what you think looks cool and/or what's cheapest
@@DrAlanQuanthank you!
I really thought I had seen it all, this is amazing! What will you do with all that space?
I've actually moved out of that space, there were air conditioning issues and the Australian summer is unforgiving! But it was a big space which gave me lots of room to move equipment about freely and do some creative photography. My current studio space is much tighter which poses logistical challenges but the air conditioning is great hahaha
Best video showing the comparisons, thank you
You're welcome, and thank you so much for sharing the love! I hope you have a great day
Actual Formula steering wheels in F1 are 300mm though, just like the Neo.
Yeah a few people have mentioned that in their comments. I just made the observation myself when switching between 270mm and 300mm wheels, I found the 270mm worked fine but the 300mm was pushing the limits of leg clearance in my own cockpit. Always happy to be corrected if I make a mistake! Thanks for commenting. What are your thoughts on the GT Neo?
@@DrAlanQuan I don't have the GT Neo but I like the look and idea of it. I'm currently using the CLS DD 8Nm with Formula V2.5 and I also have and previously used the DD with the 300mm Fanatec McLaren V2 wheel. But I found too big for the CLS DD, watering down the FFB strength too much and eventually getting the Formula V2.5 confirmed that for me. I've been thinking of upgrading to a Simagic wheelbase but torn between the Mini and Alpha. You're review here was very helpful in settling the window-shopping debate I was having about whether to go with an FX or Neo, so many thanks for that!
@DrR1pper I'm glad the video provided some meaningful information for you! Any of the Simagic equipment will be an upgrade to the Fanatec gear you've used already, the question is how far up the Simagic food chain do you want to go? Good luck!
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but you've not adjusted the FOV relative to the horizontal and aspect ratio (easily seen in the video) so you're 35 ultra wide (horizontal pixels 3x3440) shows less information in the FoV than your 32" 16:9 monitors (horizontal pixels 3x2560). That just isn't factual if the FoV is adjusted for the horizontal and aspect as the 35" ultra wide setup has more pixels to work with on the horizontal, and therefore will show MORE information in a properly adjusted field of view. A monitor has <x> amount of horizontal pixels to work with. The Samsung 57" super ultra wide for example has 7680 pixels on the horizontal, and you're 3x 32" monitors have 2560 pixels on the horizontal, so they have the same 7680 pixels on the horizontal to work with as the Samsung super ultra wide. If FoV is adjusted relative to the horizontal and aspect for both setups, you'd get the exact same information displayed for the FoV on both, at least as far as the horizontal is concerned. The 57" would have more on the vertical though which while nice in some ways, would require more GPU power to drive, so it's give and take. If however someone had triple 1080p monitors, regardless of the fact it's a triple monitor setup, they still would have only 5760 pixels to work with on the horizontal, so once the FoV calc is adjusted for the size and aspect of the monitor(s) to reflect the correct FoV, they would display LESS in their FoV than the 57" super ultra wide, despite it being a triple monitor setup. Hope that makes sense ... It was an interesting video all the same, just not entirely accurate in what you were trying to demonstrate :)
Hi Cryptic Dingo, thanks for commenting! In my opinion, you have a mix of correct and incorrect points and I'll try to address them. You are right, my triple 35"s show less than the triple 32"s when they should show more - IF the driver head position is the same for both setups. However, the driver eye to screen distance for the 32"s is quite short (within arms reach) and the eye to screen distance for the 35"s is much longer. The reason for this is the 32"s are my own personal setup tuned for my preferences, and the 35"s are exactly as configured when delivered by RaceKraft - and they have theirs set up for many customers to easily get in and out of the cockpits in their sim centre. The net result is the screens are further away, so show less. Think of a small window in a cafe - if you're far away from it, you can't see much out of it, but if you get up real nice and close you can see almost everything outside - this is the effect that distance from the eyes has. Should I have corrected the FOV settings to match the same driver distance? For a pure scientific comparison, yes I should have. But I was just filming a comparison of 3 cockpit setups that I had running side by side - all 3 were working well in their own way, and I started filming. Several eagle eyed viewers including yourself asked about the 35s showing less than the 32s which is great - it shows you are watching but also applying your knowledge and asking questions when things don't appear to match up - I love that! Now onto your topic about resolution - I am absolutely confident about this, but please let me know your thoughts. Resolution has nothing to do with FOV, what matters is SCREEN SIZE. Let's take my 32"s as comparison - they have 2560x1440 resolution - so does my 6" phone. If I had the 6" phones set up as triples, at the same distance from my eyes as the 32"s would I have the same FOV? Absolutely not, the phone screens are tiny, even though they have the same resolution - and if they are my window into viewing the world, I'll see barely anything. If I have 3 projectors, each 1920x1080, but projecting triple 100" screens I could make an ENORMOUS game world with huge FOV even though the resolution is smaller. BTW the triple 35"s actually have a resolution of 2560x1080, so they have the exact same horizontal resolution as my triple 32"s - but again it's not about resolution, it's about screen size - and the 35"s are WIDER than my 32s, so they should show more FOV but only if the eye to screen distance is the same. As for the 57" - again we can ignore the resolution, but the issue with the 57" is that it doesn't wrap around you like triples do, so it will not show as much FOV. The screen just isn't in the correct space around the driver's head to show someone driving alongside them. FOV is not about resolution. It's about screen size AND distance from eye to screen. Resolution just makes things look clearer. Thanks so much for your comment, I'd love to hear your thoughts on my reply :)
@@DrAlanQuan Thanks for taking the time to respond. Just based on what I could see I took a stab the 35's had more than your 32's on the horizontal, I knew yours were 2560, so made the assumption they would be 3440 on the horizontal. Re your iPhone 6" screen example. If you adjust the viewing distance to accomodate for the physical size and had them angled to cover the same viewable angular range, then yes, 100% they would have the same FoV. You probably wouldn't want to sit there with iPhones rigged up as monitors right up in your face, but you could, and you'd have the same information displayed (resolution) in the same angular range (fov). Those 3 x 1080p 100in projectors you mentioned, regardless of if you set them up to the same FoV, they would show so little observable/useable information (due to lack of pixel size/density - low resolution relative to physical size) that you wouldn't really have a game world to play in. But as you rightly point out, FoV isn't about resolution! It is about what is observable within a given angular range. Perhaps I was a little fixated on thinking about how much information could be displayed on a given screen regardless of physical size. Why? Because having useable information within the FoV is kind of important. There is a reason they don't make 100" 260p OLED displays right 🤪 So, perhaps when we talk about FoV, triple screen setups vs super ultra wides, we need to address more than just the FoV alone. It's about getting usable/actionable information about the observable 'world' so we can make the best decisions based on that information, like the car coming alongside you. The 3 iPhones (though capable), or the 100in 1080p screens (also capable for FoV but not for providing useable information due to resolution, or lack thereof) are both examples of why we need to talk about these things with more context than just FoV or resolution alone. As for the 57" super ultra wide... that doesn't wrap around as much as your setup, so you're right 100% right, it wouldn't have the same FoV as the 32's because of how much more you bring those around (angular range). That said, technically, it is capable of displaying the same information as the 3x 32's (because of the resolution), just the FoV would be a little off/condensed. One could argue the information would be more usable as it more easily observed (less head turning - peripheral vision is only so good). Still, I concede that point to you Sir 😎. That said, I'd rather the single massive screen and tweak the FoV to give me just enough 'view', but without condensing information from the larger FoV (trips) too much into the slightly smaller FoV (super ultra wide). Side note: I really enjoyed watching your video and chatting with you about it. It certainly made me think, and if your video gets people thinking about these things, then one could say it did what it set out to do. Keep up the good work! 👍
"I am not an engineer." ... then starts to engineer a proper looking bracket. 👊👊👊
I just wanted it to look right and work well, so I just kept throwing more and more strengthening elements until it felt right 😂
What kind of stand do you use for the curved 32 inch triples?
That's a Trak Racer stand with the standard plates - the old version that isn't for sale any more
lol, i've just had to drill all four holes in a plate for the shifter - they matched nothing for that !
lol, I guess it's either all or nothing with them hahahaha
This ear can be tweaked with some cooling and speed, but I wonder what can recover a total loss of detail in screen bottom -the pink model 06:41
I'm not a tuning pro, I wish I could guide the printers into being perfect 😂
@@DrAlanQuan Since you have replied, I'd like to share with you an extraordinary thing I have discovered. I struggle with V400 for more than a year already. Loss of details, whole lot of ringing everywhere, I was ready to give up and get me a proper corexy. But, I have just recently discovered a new firmware from FLSun. I use this printer a lot, with all it's flaws, but now I can tell you - THIS IS NOW A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PRINTER with a new firmware. It would certainly drive your review to totally different experience. It makes me wanna cry when I think of all those unslept nights trying to unsuccessfully adjust it to decent quality. Cheers!
@@paddlehard5722 is it a simple process to upgrade the firmware? I've literally never updated a Klipper print before. Is it just downloaded via the touchscreen or do I need to load a USB drive manually? I'm glad to hear a firmware update helps so much!
@@DrAlanQuan Hold on, I'll write you some truthful details about upgrade and performance after some time of testing. There are news, but I have yet to see in which segment and how beneficial. For now I can only say, my personal nature payed me once again - childish enthusiastic glee until shovel hits me. Anyways, my first impression which I wrote you should not be totally ignored :)
DO you own a drill ?
Yes, I have two 👍 Do you?
@@DrAlanQuan You mean balls yep I have two
Another great personalization I didn't know I absolutely needed till now. I have certainly noticed the V2.5X being much stiffer, but this should help stiffen my open bottom rims, Plus with courses needing hand over hand tight sections, a little more grip space than the left and right edges will be nice to try out. Just have to finish designing and printing some stuff I'm working on.
Thanks for your kind words! What projects are you working on at the moment? Also what printer are you using? I'm releasing an update this week with designs that cater to people with small printers like a Prusa Mini - but if you have a large printer that has a 290+mm bed the file package is fully ready to go now. All updates are free though and I'd love to get your feedback once you try them!
@@DrAlanQuan I have an AnkerMake M5. I have no idea where the fits on the size scale. It's new and I just started this week FreeCAD modelling. I have solved multiple issue for optimal placement of gear for my TrakRacer TRX tube sim rig so far, but as I am learning, I'm getting quicker, and seeing how to solve lots of interesting "organic" style solutions. I also just purchased your Complete Wheel Pack and likely tomorrow will have a moment to look and likely start a print for the night. So many designs to try, so little time. Plus I have to order inserts
Sounds like you're on a roll with your design and printing, please send photos of your completed formula rim! The only hardware you absolutely need are M3 X 12mm socket head cap screws which are easy to source, but a few M2 threaded inserts and M2 x 12mms will give you a bit more of a tighter finished product. But don't be shy about printing and using them without the inserts
i have been considering to buy triples for racing but i heard they suck a lot of performance out of your pc so i have been leaning to the samsung odyssey g9
Graphics cards have been powerful enough for many years now, but yes a single screen will use less horsepower than triples. Whatever you decide, have fun!
Drove down to the junkyard yesterday and picked up a nice Subaru Forester seat with plenty of adjustment. It only cost me $25. I am so thankful for this video; it saved me a ton of money!
That's a great deal, I'm so happy for you! Is the seat on the rig yet?