The charging hub will initially offer fast and ultra-rapid charging for 42 vehicles at once at Oxford’s Redbridge Park and Ride. It will be powered entirely by renewable energy. With 10 MW of installed capacity on site, the hub can scale up with EV adoption to provide charging for 400 vehicles. Fastned has initially installed ten charging bays at the Superhub with 300 kW of power available, capable of adding 300 miles of range in just 20 minutes for hundreds of EVs per day. Unlike any other UK charging hub, the site is directly connected to National Grid’s high voltage transmission network via a four-mile underground cable, which will deliver 10 MW of power to quickly and simultaneously charge hundreds of EVs without putting additional strain on the local electricity network or requiring costly upgrades.

@derekwhite5090

2 жыл бұрын

Ambiguous! The Hub is powered entirely by renewable energy…..which is connected to the national Grid….which is not entirely renewable! Please clarify what you mean, thanks.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

@@derekwhite5090 They have a huge flow battery installed as well. More details of all of this will be out this week as their open day was yesterday and with lots of press, KZreadrs etc, so I'm sure all the info will be explained shortly in new videos. I was invited to the open day, but too busy to go. The text above is just copied from their press release.

@servicekid7453

2 жыл бұрын

So is it 10 bays or is it 42 bays? Gridserve at Braintree also has a direct grid comnection and battery storage and, if memory serves correctly, 24 charging bays

@martyndavies1482

2 жыл бұрын

@@derekwhite5090 You have to take REGO certificates at their word, it all balances out in the end.

@trevorberridge6079

Жыл бұрын

@@servicekid7453 Gridserve Braintree charges 36 vehicles and is fed from a solar farm. They even have exercise bikes that generate power for the on site storage. Fantastic facility. 40 to be rolled out in the next year or two. Ambitions to setup a total of 100 across the country.

I’m so pleased to see that Fastned is moving further into the country. Their system really is the future of charging.

I used to live in Oxford. ‘They’ have been talking about a cafe at the Redbridge P&R site since it was opened. The nearest to that they’ve got is a drinks dispenser. Similar promises were made about the Thornhill P&R site. Oxford does not do public amenity. Try finding a public toilet on a bank holiday weekend in Oxford centre.

Great video Matt thanks for sharing always great to see new charging hubs opening

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

We were stuck in Cirencester yesterday where there are three rapids, one was out of order in Lidl, leaving the remaining 2 shell chargers in Waitrose, both of which was in use but one had reached 100% and still charging, but owner no where to be seen. The remaining charger was being connected to an Ipace but was told it was not working. They moved on and I tried with a debit card but it failed three times, so waited for other owner to return of the other car. We tried calling Shell customer services whilst waiting, but was told their uk line was down and we were talking to a European office who could not help. After 30 min I was getting inpatient and found the other car was still charging at 4kw, was tempted to disconnect, and four other people had asked if the charger was to be free soon in this time. So we decided to ask the Waitrose whose car park was belonging and ask to give an announcement. Whilst my partner was doing that I realised I had a New motion Rdif card in my wallet we use in Europe. I knew She’ll had taken this operator over and so tried that, it worked. The point is this all took at least an hour, plus 40 min charging so 1hr 40 min total, so in this new hub would I be charged for this time wasting which in convenience me. We also noted in our long trip, that to few operators actually tell you how much you have spent, you don’t get that at petrol pumps or charged a short term fee, do you! My partner only got one of a string of fees like this back after 10 months had passed, and lots of phone calls and letters!! This all needs regulating properly in our opinion!

@eddymaes9620

2 жыл бұрын

If you have a New Motion card than you can see on your New Motion app our your Shell Recharge app how much you spent a few minutes after disconecting the charge cable.

@TimKirkmt

Жыл бұрын

I get it, I live in Cirencester, however for future reference EB charging have now opened a rapid charger at the barn theatre, very rarely busy, and another choice. It’s as cheap as Lidl, and she’ll are now the most expensive

Exciting stuff! Great to see several providers at the same site adding up to many available charge points

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

You might find this video interesting too, see kzread.info/dash/bejne/o5qIpNhwmc6nZNo.html Just down the road in Banbury is now an even larger charging hub.

Outstanding!!! Fastned, we need you folks to take a look at setting up sites in Canada!!!!

Thanks for this, living in Southampton this will be useful when passing on the A34. Fyi the Oxford council website says that parking for 0-1 hour is free.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the parking charges info.

@andysolarev1125

2 жыл бұрын

Yes 1 hour is free but as it’s ANPR controlled you still need to get a ‘free’ ticket from the machine. Else you risk a fine.

Nice video Matt, thanks for the update. I've used the Oxford Superchargers just off the M40 services when I'm down that way however I will be using these in future.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

At the moment, these new ones at Redbridge are very quiet.

Fantastic! I was there the other day and saw it under construction. About time we saw this kind of infrastructure rolled out across the country.

thanks for the video

Great thanks for this post.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Those DC stations are Alpitronic Hyperchargers. I would configure the purchase very differently. You can have them configured in many ways starting with a box that is half the size. I reckon it is better to have more chargers at medium power level such as 150kW to comfortably service more cars. Also they offer a disabled friendly screen option where the screen is set lower down while still good for everyone and FASTNED did not option that when they should have.

Great to see, hope you don't get a ticket. With an older model S, I also have a 2014, think that 45 min limit is challenging. Personally will most likely stick with Oxford services for the trip recharges. Thanks for reviewing them

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I will have to be watching the time.

Delta Chargers(300kW) plus the AC chargers look identical to the ones Bjorn showed at the EV35 event in Norway and are from Slovenian company from memory and very cool.

This looks great, the only thing wrong with it is that's it on the 'wrong' side of Oxford if you are travelling on the M40.

@trevorberridge6079

Жыл бұрын

Try A40 or A41 junctions.

Nice review of charging machines, but the toilet and cafe facilities are just as important. We were here in Aug 2022, and the TWO toilets are inadequate for such large numbers of people! Similarly, two vending machines for food/drink don’t hack it for a ‘hub’!

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I made a video on this subject, see kzread.info/dash/bejne/h2qOo5t-lM7daMY.html

Great news, great scoop Matt! One thing I'd ask of you next time you're there could you check out how practical those disabled bays really are for wheelchair users? I kept seeing the yellow hatching but there were bump stops everywhere which if placed badly can impede the use of a wheelchair. Plus it wasn't overly clear which chargers were for those spaces. I'm sure Roger from Warner's Wheeling About will get there soon but it would be great to have support from able bodied people too. I'm disabled although only need a walker in the bad times but know plenty of wheelchair users. The law is being ridden roughshod over regarding accessibility so I just wanted to make you aware that this is a vitally important thing to check at new charging hubs. Many thanks Matt, this is another great step forward. 👍

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

All look to be wheelchair friendly. The only bump stops are at the Fastned chargers and they're no wider than the vehicle, so will underneath the car. The Wanea bays are very wide too. See photos here photos.app.goo.gl/jUM19gRXQc3KtURH7

@judebrown4103

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos cheers Matt, photos very helpful. That's great the bump stops are put in sensibly, you wouldn't believe the problems that have been created by them at other sites! This really is a fantastic facility. 👍 😊

Great video!!!

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

Great ive ordered an EV, coming in 4 weeks. Good to see should i need to use one while out. We need more of them all over the motorway network north and south

This is desperately needed at the mid point of the A9 between Perth and Inverness due to the hilly nature of the drive and the lack of public chargers on Scotland's main arterial route through the Highlands.

This place does what it says on the tin, easy to get to on a major road, and the electrons sure do flow.

The 'Fastned' charger as you call it, is made by Alpitronic. It's their HYC300 model. 👍🏻

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks.

The EV general public need a few thousand of these around the U.K., but at least it’s a start which is brilliant.

Love that the 50kw chargers have gravel all the way around them with the sockets high up on the side's good luck if your a wheelchair user 👎but the Tesla super chargers have level concrete all the way around 👍 NB I am not a wheelchair user but as a former H&S union rep tend to look at things like this 👷‍♂️

love your videos Matt great charging hub.we need a charging hub in ipswich l have just orded my first ev a kia niro 64khw base model.i don,t no what charge cards to get.keep up the great work.

@davidholden2658

2 жыл бұрын

You don't need any charge cards. Just use contactless payment with a debit or credit card.

I wish to see some of them in N. Ireland. Great. We have terrible charging network here in NI. Total lack of a rapid chargers. And if you find any, most of them doesn't work. 😢

Do you think those prices are introductory to get people to use them: how do they compare with the shopping centre prices?

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

The 50 AC chargers at the shopping centre are free of charge....but you pay for parking.

This is what our cities need !

North Norfolk could do with an ev charging station. Gridserve may have built one in Norwich, but the rapid charging, or any charging is desperately required. Drove one hour this morning at 6am to find a working rapid charger. Spent 1.5 hours charging, then another one hour drive back to a campsite.

@donaldanderson6604

2 жыл бұрын

There are more chargers in Islington than in Norfolk. I wouldn't dare take my EV there. Suffolk's not great either.

@trevorberridge6079

Жыл бұрын

Norfolk isn't the Mecca of chargers, but I've driven their many times over the past six years and the availability increases almost every time I go. There's now a large Gridserve hub in Norwich with 28+ chargers. And there are plenty of Rapid chargers all over the area. Check Zap Map.

We have them in holland and belgium for several years In belgium when its not blowing they are nuc powered The cost to charge a tesla is about 70 to 80 eur Comparable to filling a diesel car with 3 x the range

Makes sense to use the app here with that saving of 19p per kWh.

@SusieSmart

2 жыл бұрын

The 35p is if you pay £9.99 a month to be a Gold Member. Might be worth it for some who are on the road a lot or can’t charge at home.

Hi Matt this looks great! Enjoying your videos. Love the fact they have type 2 chargers where so many service stations seem to be removing them. We have a 22kwh 2016 zoe. Long journeys are a nightmare. We have had the car 4 years. Can I ask for some advice please? We have been having problems with the car. Electric motor failure light on for the past year and a half doesn't seem to affect driving came on when braking. Have been told out of tolerance limits. Now braking down after 1.5 hrs driving triggered by pressing brake. The cars pedestrian speaker comes on for 5 mins an car not in neutral so unable to push. It happens repetitively unless you give enough time to ? Cool/ computer to reset. We are at our wits end with it. It is our only family car and need it to be reliable. Independent garage and renault both want to change the motor and the other 2 components and charge us £4000!! Please if you can suggest anything we would be extremely grateful. We are based in kent. Many thanks Ben

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

That is beyond my level of expertise. Best to try a Hevra garage, see hevra.org.uk/garages.html. Knowledge of these Zoes is increasing all the time. It might also be worth the effort to get the car moved to a garage that has more experience, rather than using local ones. For example, getting the car on a recover truck to say Cleevley EV at Cheltenham, might be well worth the £200 transportation cost.

@benmorgan7190

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos thanks for reply. I will cleevleys and go from there, thank you.

@trevorberridge6079

Жыл бұрын

@@benmorgan7190 Cleevely Evs will actually do a mobile service. You can check if they are able to visit you in Cheltenham. James Cotes of Cleevley EVs (also of the James & Kate KZread channel) may travel over a thousand miles a week in his Nissan e-NV200 works van visiting customers and doing on site repairs and maintenance. Worth asking.

@benmorgan7190

Жыл бұрын

@@trevorberridge6079 thanks so much for the info I will contact them.

Just thinking a cafe needs to be slick... Ie in and out in under 45mins inc coffee and charging!

Do you have to book in if using the Tesla chargers ?

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

No. Bu only for use by Tesla drivers. But at some point in the future, it is likely they will be available to all EV drivers as Tesla are going to open up the network. Currently only a few sites are open to all on a "trial". When that is the case, you simply turn up and enable the charge within the Tesla app.

How did you know the Tesla Chargers were v3? (Was it the one charger per space?)

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

They are V3 250kW chargers with CCS only. See photos photos.app.goo.gl/jUM19gRXQc3KtURH7

@G-Cam1

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos thanks.. i didn't see it was stand alone CCS 👍

I know it’s early day and a great step forward but shelter from the elements with solar panels seems to be common sense to me. Also personal safety. My wife won’t go to some locations a sit about for 30 min or more. You can’t just sit in the car if some scumbag comes along and you can’t drive off when connected. Operations your investing in a good thing but there are real world issues to address.

@trevorberridge6079

Жыл бұрын

Probably more vulnerable if you're forced to stand outside an ICE car while you pump in the fuel. You'd have to stop the pump, replace the hose, close your fuel cap which often means having your car keys in your hand and then get into the car. The sad truth is that scumbags don't care what your car is powered by or how long you're parked.

«Europe’s most powerful charging hub»? You must mean “UK”? My local V3 Supercharger in Norway is 40 x 250 kW, so 10 MW. Nice video!

@thomasj1148

2 жыл бұрын

Actually Hilden in Germany seems to be the most powerful one In a Europe. 36 Tesla SC V3 and 10 x 300 kW from Fastned. Up to 12 MW.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they're making some bold claims. Maybe it was at the point of conception, but its taken two years to build it.

The Gridserve forecourt in Braintree has 36 chargers in a variety of formats. So Redbridge P&R forecourt with 6 more charging points probably is the biggest by number in the UK. Gridserve have confirmed rolling out 40 more forecourts of the total 100 they envisage as their end goal. Electric forecourts are going to become very common. Another massive step forward for EVs and another knock back for the naysayers.

@neilwiddison6529

Жыл бұрын

I would look at a battery car. But as a working man it's a dream

@trevorberridge6079

Жыл бұрын

@@neilwiddison6529 I'm a working man whose never had particularly well paying work. I've had an electric car for six years. I just paid off the lease so on top of the massive savings over a petrol car I now save another £105 a month. Don't believe the oil sponsored disinformation. Electric vehicles are going to become even cheaper and more cost effective year on year. There's a reason they're the fastest growing sector of the car market.

@neilwiddison6529

Жыл бұрын

@@trevorberridge6079 lease. I can't lease a car. I have enough trouble with mortgage and bills. Lol

Very useful, all we need is another 10000 of these sites to open throughout the country between now an 2030 and we’ll be covered. !😏

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

In theory you wouldn't need 1000. Gridserve are planning 100 sites throughout Britain's major road routes, and if the rest of their sites follow the first (Braintree) model - with almost 40 chargers - then it ought to be much easier to travel almost anywhere in Britain, well within the range of even the lowlier EV's. The average UK motorway journey is presently 70 to 80 miles. Only once or twice per year does Mr Average take his family on that 300+ mile holiday trip.

@aerofly2

2 жыл бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh The average petrol station has 6 pumps, it takes around 5 minutes to fill a car, that’s 72 cars filled in an hour. When there are enough charging stations in the country to charge the same number of EV’s as there are petrol stations filling cars every hour, then i reckon we’ll be almost there !! That’s also assuming that the charge stations are as reliable as the existing petrol pumps, which according to the press reports, at least 15% of them are out of service at any one time!

Great what is the postcode?

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

OX1 4XG

Good to see a new charging hub on this scale but why do the operators all have different apps that frequently don't work? 54p per kWh is really pricey compared with the cost of charging at home.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

They all now have to have contacts card payment, which these Fastned and Wanea chargers all do. Often, as in the Fastned case, you get a slightly cheaper rate if you use their app. As for the costs, I think 54p per kWh is very fair. The mistake you and many others make is comparing it to the cost at home. Its not the same. After all this 300kW DC power, not the 2.3kW AC you'd get from your home plug! In this case, there's millions ££ of investment in infrastructure to deliver 300kW DC power. Plus the VAT is 20% on commercial, not the 5% you pay at home. Plus commercial energy rates are not the same as you pay at home. I'm paying 37.2p per kWh at work now. It was 58.8p last month when out of contract!! The rate I'm paying at home at the capped rate is 22.87p inc VAT.

@jamesgilbart2672

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos On the multitude of different apps - they are a faff if you haven't already downloaded and registered with the one you need - petrol/diesel car drivers don't have to do this when filling up. On high kWh rates - I appreciate that a lot of investment has gone in to this new hub but the rates charged substantially reduce the advantage of using electricity over petrol or diesel - and that benefit will be further reduced when the government starts to apply some sort of fuel duty to EVs. Despite that I still prefer EV driving!

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

You'd only use places like this on that occasional longer trip. Most of the time you'd charge at home on your EV tariff. It's like buying petrol on the motorway. You only buy it if you *have* to......

I have a 2014 Kia Soul, chademo charge and recently tried to charge at an EG service station near Thetford where there were 10 150kw chargers but my car will only take up to 60kw and I almost had to call out the AA to tow me away. Will this hub be of any use to me?

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

The charge rate is dictated by the car, not the charger you are plugging in to. Chademo is 50kW max anyway, so it all sounds normal for a 2014 Soul. I can't see why you say about getting the AA out??? This type of charging hub will be of use to you, as they have Chademo plugs on every Fastned charger. Your car will charge at the rate it was designed to charge at, so in your case, 50kW.

Fastned need to get bigger in the Uk . I have no home charging so I have to use public but in the NE I have 6 stations in a 7 mile radius from me, umm anything to do with the Newcastle-Amsterdam ferry LOL.

Just realised its FastNed... 🤔😂😂Do you get Neds down your way? Or is that just a Scottish term?

Think there are more charge points at the gridserve Braintree But don’t think there’s as many of the 300kw + chargers

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, they're saying "largest" in terms of total power.

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

There are (I think) 36 chargers at Braintree, with around 50% being the 350kw Ultra Rapids..... There is the capacity to add further chargers, should the need arise.....

Hardly the biggest! The three large Gridserve are larger, the BP station in Lindon might not be as large.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

They are saying "UK's largest charging hub and the most powerful in Europe". They are talking total power, not sockets.

@trevorberridge6079

Жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos If they mean total power then their wording is very deceptive. Also, I'm not sure if Gridserve have more than 36 outlets at any current forecourt.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

@@trevorberridge6079 After your comments, I have checked and yes this Oxford hub is the "biggest" in both power and number of cars that can charge at the same time - 42 vs 36 at Gridserve.

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

It is actually. I've just checked this morning. At this Oxford hub, you can charge 42 vehicles, but 36 at Gridserve.

I drove my BMW i3 from London to Manchester and had to stop at Oxford Services to charge. There were 2 superchargers and 8 cars waiting in the queue! On the other side there were 15 Tesla superchargers! Unless you have a Tesla, the infrastructure is not there yet in this country! I had to wait 1 and 1/2 hours until 18:30 for people to leave so I can charge! Charge is quick but you need to find a charger first!

@TheSeafordian

2 жыл бұрын

Some Tesla chargers charge other cars.

@trevorberridge6079

Жыл бұрын

EV forecourts are appearing all over the place and spreading quickly. And there are always alternative chargers available. The UK is plastered with chargers in every corner. A little bit of planning and you should have no major issues.

45min limit is only for the rapid chargers and not the AC ones?

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Yes I would assume only for the Fastned chargers. The AC ones would be for vehicles parked up and going into town on the bus. The Tesla chargers have their own way of managing bay hoggers.

@rogercrier9115

2 жыл бұрын

Surely bigger battery Leafs will need to stay longer than 45 mins? My 24 kWh eNV200 takes about that long, and I’m sure there is added time to faff about connecting! And what about if you have to wait? The cameras have clocked you in, you have waited 10 mins faffed about connecting for 5 mins, then charge for 45…….recipe for a total nightmare if your on Chademo

We could use one in or near Birmingham.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

So could every city in the UK. One day they will.

Every supermarket should have these 22kw ac

How close to the m40 is this place?

@GoGreenAutos

Жыл бұрын

Other side of Oxford, South on the ring road, where it meets the A34. Have a look on Google Maps and search for "Redbridge Park and Ride". You would need to be pretty desperate for a charge to come off to get to it, as you'd have to completely circuit the city.

@antonymcneillis

Жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos ok. Thanks

Very sparse in Suffolk see odd few whilst out delivering babergh council doing something in Sudbury but no publicity about it

you don’t have to pay for 1hr stay, but you have to register for that 1hr free parking..

@thelifeofbatteries2603

Жыл бұрын

what a stupid idea, they know how long you're there because of the cameras, why the faff of registering...i'll avoid this place

22kw AC is great but sadly most evs can only handle 7 or 11kw AC. So I'm not sure it makes much sense to install 22kw AC. I have an older Tesla which seems to max 18kw and zoe can do 22 or maybe 44kw.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

If you're putting AC chargers in, 22kW versions cost about the same as 7kW versions anyway and any commercial site will have three phase power anyway. There's thousands of Zoes which can all charge at 22kW. Also the Smart cars, BMW, Teslas and a few others can also charge at 11kW so a bonus for many EVs.

@ianrobinson110

2 жыл бұрын

22kw is the maximum these AC chargers can supply If your vehicle only needs 7 or 11kw the car will restrict the charging current to what your car is capable off.

Congrats on your ‘coup’!....I used Redbridge park and ride many times when I lived in the UK..

Can you imagine the resistance there would have been if petrol/diesel cars had just been invented and it took 45 minutes to fill up as well as all the parking costs 😂

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

But then most just filled up at home overnight while they slept at a fraction of the cost.

@markahomer

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos Petrol retailing started in a similar way - petrol was purchased in containers from a chemist shop and dispensed there or at home. Enjoy cheap EV driving now - GPS mileage charging will knock that on the head sooner rather than later.

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

@@markahomer But then the GPS mileage charging will apply to ALL vehicles Eric, so the EV's running cost advantage will remain...... In fact it seems likely that, for some time at least, ICE drivers might be hit with both Road Tolls *and* fuel duty...... and let's not forget those sneaky Clean Air Zones, waiting in the wings to be introduced in many towns and cities up and down the land Eric. Both Paris and Berlin have banned diesel cars from their city centres, and others are now looking to clean their cities up too......

@markahomer

2 жыл бұрын

@@Brian-om2hh Who knows what will happen but the Transport Select Committee has proposed scrapping VED and all fuel duty tax in favour of GPS tracking so the gap narrows dramatically. We are already seeing EV subsidies being scrapped and using public chargers will likely become a lot more expensive as will electricity generally, as we are seeing. Cheap home charging? The infrastructure, let alone physical space makes this impractical if whole households go 'EV'. What do I think is the future? EVs will charge in minutes, have greater range than most ICE cars, GPS charging will restrict mobility through crippling tariffs to control congestion.

@fredflintstone1428

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos In our street of about thirty houses, one guy has a Tesla. I reckon if five people had an EV, and they all charged overnight, it would do serious damage to the infrastructure, either blowing fuses or degrading cables. Am I wrong?

I always thought fastned was only in the Netherlands. Because next to public chargers in living streets you mostly only aee Fastned here. And in Germany i saw Ionity and shell recharge..

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Not many Fastned locations in the UK, see fastnedcharging.com/en/locations But hopefully we'll see more soon.

@jdnrotterdam2150

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos what are you guys paying for 1 kwh on public chargers? We pay 0,40 per kwh cents in neighborhoods public chargers and 0,60 cents per kwh on the highway at fastned

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

@@jdnrotterdam2150 Prices of these new Fastned chargers in Oxford is 35p pkWh if using the app or 54p pkWh is paying by card.

@thelifeofbatteries2603

Жыл бұрын

Fastned are in Germany too, used one yesterday near Berlin

@thelifeofbatteries2603

Жыл бұрын

@@jdnrotterdam2150 use Bonnet and pay 41c

Nice but pity they are only 22kw why not 50s, and what is the £40 charge for i dont have to pay that when i buy a bottle of wine with my bank card,, someone said what happens if it takes that then wont work , i just dont get it and im fed up with Apps

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

The 22kW chargers are AC. Very few cars can charge any faster than 7kW on AC. The DC other chargers are 250-300kW. The mix is perfect and what all sites should have. The £40 is a credit card is a holding fee, not a charge. You only pay for what you use.

@rodden1953

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos i kow about the holding fees but why do we have to have them , some people might have enough to charge but not to pay the holding fees as well

@73henny

2 жыл бұрын

@@rodden1953 They cannot know how much charge/cost you are going to take. They know what your bottle of wine costs at the point of sale.

amazing, im looking to switch to EV, this is great news should i be travelling from the northwest to slough etc

@trevorberridge6079

Жыл бұрын

You should get Zap-Map on your phone and you'll be blown away by how many chargers of all types are available across the entire UK. They have long since outnumbered the total of petrol pumps.

With a Tesla on the way it’s great to have this facility 4 miles up the road from where I live. Shame there’s nothing to do there as the promised cafe isn’t open yet!

Does that 45 minute limit apply to all the chargers? Vaguely understandable for the 350 kW chargers on the assumption that people are going to arrive, charge and then leave, but for the 22 kW chargers surely people will want to park and then take the bus into the centre of Oxford? 45 minutes would just about give you time to get a bus to the centre and then come straight back again. The last time I used that Park and Ride the rules for paying for parking were quite insane. You had to pay if you drove into the site, regardless of whether you stayed or drove straight out again *and* there was a requirement to pay within 15 minutes of arrival or something similar. Utterly barking! What does it matter when you pay? The park and ride in Canterbury is much more sane - you just need to pay at some time before you leave and you can even pay for your parking on the bus. If the same system is still extant then you'll need to pay for the parking as well as the charging because the parking charge enforcement will have no way of knowing whether you charged or not.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

The 45 mins max sign is only at the Fastned chargers. I would assume the AC chargers are for drivers who park up and use the Park & Ride. Tesla have their own methods for dealing with bay hoggers.

@robertsmart7484

2 жыл бұрын

If it's like tha car park at Sherwood Pines, there is a NPR camera on the exit as well, so if you exit within 15 minutes of arrival, ie drive straight through, you don't get charged

@johnwinters4201

2 жыл бұрын

@@robertsmart7484 If only! Yes, that would be a sensible system but the one at Oxford (at least the last time I was there) does not work like that. Even if you drove in and could find nowhere to park (unlikely as it's very big) you had to pay and you had to pay within 15 minutes! Loony, but then you do tend to get stupid people in charge of these things.

What's the price per kWh,

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

The Fastned price was in the video. Tesla prices vary and are on their app...if you have to pay. Wanea pricing unkown.

Until they cut off the cords for copper.

Why do you need an app? That needs to go, tap with a card and charge, like buying petrol.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

You don't. All new chargers have contactless payments. All these Fastned and Wenea chargers have contactless. But many networks give you further benefits if you use the app...typically cheaper pricing and the ability to get receipts, which is needed for business users.

Why the different costs depending on payment method.... Imagine going to a BP for some petrol and having different price per litre (80% variation) depending on whether I pay cash, switch, credit or BP app. This should stop.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

I believe (from talking to another charger company) that their card processing fees are cheaper when payment is done via the app. So many charge companies pass on these savings. That and wanting the additional data, so they encourage drivers to use the app.

@andrewsmith8388

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos So can I look forward to the same billing system with petrol too? ("wanting the additional data" says a lot to me. Filling my EV shouldn't result in me giving away data.)

@andrewsmith8388

2 жыл бұрын

Ultimately if I have no choice, I will get a cheap pay as you go phone, install the various apps, leave it in the glove box turned off until I need to pay to charge, then turn it off again. And various EV groups should be suggesting we all do this.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewsmith8388 The point is you have the choice. If they went flat rate, all options would rise to the most expensive. I'd happily give away my data for a cheaper price. After all, the data is only "I'm charging now, its costing this much, I was here for 30 mins and and here's my email address". They can get all of that from the contactless apart from your contact details.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewsmith8388 Yet the other phone in your pocket is tracking you and listening to everything you say!

It’s on the Zap map (with issues reported), but not (yet) on PlugShare.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

Not yet its not. The two type2 Swarco were there originally and now replaced with the new Fastned hub.

Am I forgetting something, isn't that many AC chargers a complete waste of time ? Only certain Zoes use them don't they ?

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

No, all EVs can charge on AC. They're ideal if you are parking up and using the Park & Ride to get into Oxford. This is the Park & Ride carpark after all.

@jeffreycooper8408

2 жыл бұрын

@@GoGreenAutos TBH I meant the 22kw power level isn't that common !!

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

@@jeffreycooper8408 Yes correct. Only Renault Zoe's (but there are a lot of them on the roads), some Smart ForTwo and ForFour and some Tesla's. More cars accept up to 11kWh, so they still have some use. If your car accepts it, the difference between charging at 11kW or 22kW over 7kW is huge.

45 minutes seem way too short a time

This charging station is out of my range...

So you need a massive car park to (refuel) vehicles that you only need one vehicle space at a petrol station. Progress indeed. Yes, yes I'm being sarcastic. 👋

@GoGreenAutos

9 ай бұрын

Or you could look at it another way...you need a special site with fuel tanks buried in the ground to fuel ICE vehicles, whereas an EV hub can be plonked in the side of an existing car park.

1. ban ICE cars 2. stop producing electricity the plan worked. and they felt for it

Go green autos? There is absolutely nothing green about electric vehicles. As Hitler said ' The big lie is the one they all believe '.

where is the power coming from? Coal or diesel powered electric plants?

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

No, not in the UK

@daydreamer8373

2 жыл бұрын

The UK grid is around 2% coal and being phased out. Gas, Nuclear and renewables make up the majority. Renewables are around 40%, and growing rapidly.

@GoGreenAutos

2 жыл бұрын

As I look at the stats now, 39.5% of the UK's energy is currently wind, 19.7% solar, 18.3% nuclear, 17.8% gas, 3.3% biomass. Coal is 0%.

I'm not a car owner or driver these days (just a skint and squishy girlie cyclist), but I'd find it extremely uncomfortable having to loiter for half an hour or more whilst my EV was effectively immobilised, hooked up to a charger. Before you point out the obvious - that I could scurry indoors to safety and spend a fortune on unwanted food and drink in a shop or poxy café - I don't wanna. Looking at the price they're charging for electricity, I'd be counting every damn penny. Maybe men have a different mindset when out and about, but I'm a lone female [Oh, Elli - you reckless fool!], so personal safety is a big deal for me. I'm not allowed to carry a knife, pepper spray, shotgun or flamethrower for self-defence and, although I trained in the nastier martial arts for 26 years, the first thing you learn to do is to walk away from a confrontation. So... I'd rather not get involved in the first place. Hanging around an EV charging station just looks... wrong to me. They're nothing like petrol stations because the turnover is sooooooo slow. I like the idea of 'wireless' charging by an induction pad buried in the ground. I think they're experimenting with the technology in Denmark or Norway. I don't care how complicated it is to implement - just make it happen. Women will be grateful. Peeps living with a disability or using a wheelchair will be grateful. Heck, maybe everyone will be grateful. I appreciate that induction charging on the move is currently an impossibility, but there's nowt wrong with parking to charge as long as you can stay in your car. Imagine it: you pull up, wind down your window, swipe your payment card (or whatever), then just sit and read a book or something with the door locked until your car's sorted itself out. If Dodgy Dude wanders up offering to 'help' (and trust me, guys, he frequently does whether you're mending a puncture or loading your bike panniers with tins of beans outside Sainsbury's), you can just drive away. No strings attached. Please note: I acknowledge that OF COURSE most people approaching and offering to help are perfectly genuine, honest, decent, innocent and nice. Firm handshake, friendly smile, no tattoos, kind to animals. Great. Yay chivalry. It's just that in my decades of driving and last few years of cycling, I've only ever been approached by creepy scumbags.

Who cares when they charge an arm and a leg for it?

@TheSeafordian

2 жыл бұрын

People with no power left?

@laimonasrake8367

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheSeafordian Those people care what is the eta of RAC van with diesel generator inside to charge them up

Coal powered cars

@stulop

2 жыл бұрын

Do we still produce most of our electric from coal?

@steveyogilmore5314

2 жыл бұрын

@@stulop some. OK, gas powered cars. Better ?

@stulop

2 жыл бұрын

@@steveyogilmore5314 in the last 30 minutes, 43% gas, 21% wind, 15% solar, 14% nuclear, 0.64% coal. See drax electric insights for up to the last half our UK production.

@steveyogilmore5314

2 жыл бұрын

@@stulop Drax is wood powered.

@Brian-om2hh

2 жыл бұрын

@@steveyogilmore5314 And what's used to provide the electricity to refine the fuel you use in your car Stevey? Fairy Dust? The UK uses a tiny amount of coal to produce energy now. Do some research....

Good to see more chargers but the concept of these being located at a park and ride with a 45 min charging limit is bizarre. It’s a charging hub and your up for a long wait if you want to go into Oxford as well. I get it, charger blocking is going to be a major problem it there isn’t a time limit. Roll on the overstay fines🫤