I really wanted to get this video out before the weekend and the article is incoming on Monday! Hope y'all dig it and learn something!

@En1Gm4A

6 жыл бұрын

Barbell Medicine nice Vid ! Like it When will part 3 of the Programming Podcast be released ?

@maogall

6 жыл бұрын

4/20 yeaaaaaah

Watching rats leg press is something one would probably enjoy while baked.

I love your content on this channel and learning from you Dr. Feigenbaum!

This is another great Barbell Medicine video. I like how you covered this topic. It is too bad there is not as much data on this as there could be.

@joshjohnston7388

6 жыл бұрын

kapuaalakapikola I know what I need to know. I perform more poorly at everything when high. I perform SUPER poorly at physical activities when high. It is strictly a downtime activity. Watch a movie, play a videogame, paint a model, sure. If I got shit to do, nope.

Great talk!

I'm a fourth year pharmacy student and aspiring powerlifter, and I'm loving the research-based method of talking about cannabis vis-a-vis lifting. That was our last capstone presentation -- cannabis. We left it on a high! Haha, loving it guys.

Great lecture. I'm just going to link this video in the future when friends ask me what I think about marijuana use. I have a couple chronic disease, so I know a lot of people in the same boat. Many of them look to marijuana for treatment of their symptoms, which I think, in most cases, is counter productive given the side effects. You're far better off maximizing your health through solid programming, good diet, a set sleep/rest plan, and managing your social/psychological/emotional health well.

Any chance you can do a video summarizing the data on alcohol consumption and outcomes for strength training generally as well as effect on strength intra-workout (drinking and lifting simultaneously)?

Last time I got high, rollerblades was the new hot thing. Prayer of the Rollerboys was a damn good movie.

An important factor to consider with pot and gainz is low appetite/sarcopenia. I had an stepaunt who at 49 had stage 4 cancer diagnosis and was given 2 months to live, end of life plan,no treatment plan. However, she had been 95 pounds at 5'7"for 3 years before the diagnosis. (incidentally she also has chron's disease which the chron's colitis association supports studying medical pot on their patients for a wide range of reasons/anecdotes as a huge percentage of sufferers already say they use it medically) Personally I did not believe she would die and thought it was her low bodyweight. I talked my step grandmother who she was moving in with to "die" into cooking her top 10 favorite foods over and over all day whether she eats it or not and giving her marijuana, just as a half court type of shot to try and see if we could turn things around. The first couple days the impending death diagnosis screwed up her appetite but after a couple days the pot starting making her hungry and she ate a bunch and a couple weeks later weighed 115. During her next checkup the doctors changed their mind about end of life and started her on chemo due to increased bodyweight. The cancer is now in remission and it's 3 years later and she has hair back and all that. For some people, the appetite benefits of pot can make all the difference in the world, particularly the types of folks who struggle to keep enough bodyweight.

@BarbellMedicine

6 жыл бұрын

There is definitely some potential for increasing appetite with medical cannabinoids, but they tend to not work as well as other options that we have access to.

@BarryDonegan

6 жыл бұрын

Barbell Medicine the problem though is that they would not prescribe any of those things for her. And also the fact that it did have an intoxicating effect and she was kind of in that mind state of who cares I'm going to die anyway, made it easier to get her to actually take it.

The air filter and febreeze in the background... nice touches.

Great info 😏

The date you released this on is really......Nuanced.

8:54 you said it all right there.

so what about getting high before lifting? it puts some people in the mood to workout and enjoy training music .But the blood pressure issue I've heard can be felt, especially when using the valsalva maneuver

Hey doc, I don't think you mentioned it in the video (if you did, please forgive me my english isn't too good), but in your medical opinion will cannabis use (mostly daily use) lead to a noticeable decrease in testosterone levels to the point of negatively affecting performance and or body composition? I'm a big fan of yours :)

wow this wikipedia-reading intro was strange...

Great video! The only other angle I would have liked to see you cover is the comparison between alcohol and marijuana. It seems to be a popular strategy to advocate for recreational use of marijuana over alcohol because it's "less bad for you" or something to that effect. Any thoughts on that idea?

@BarbellMedicine

6 жыл бұрын

Yea, I think that'd be difficult to argue against given the margin of exposure (MOE), which is the margin between the toxicity effect level and the exposure dose- being very high in MJ and very low in EtOH. I think there are unique risks in each nonetheless.

Abdi came here :) hi Abdi thanks for the project

Interesting video. I just have one question. How do you get a rat to leg press!?! haha On second thought I probably don't want to know.

Love cbd oil 💪🏽

Filmed with bong in lap

So what you’re saying is... There’s no weed in Peri-Rx.

@grizzlymanverneteil4443

6 жыл бұрын

Nah, he kept winking at the camera, I think thats him letting us know its in there.

I also wonder about the soscietal/psycologic effect the illegal status of cannabis had on the studies. I know it's very intangible but it would interesting to see the same studies in a 1st world country where pot is legal for recreation purposes.

@BarbellMedicine

6 жыл бұрын

Adam Costilla there were actually a few sham studies of the 18 exercise ones, which I thought was interesting. Honestly, we are way behind studying everything that has been demonized by the conventional wisdom and I am hopeful we’ll get more data soon.

Why have I never seen this before?

It is odd how you really pretty rarely see cannabis smokers who are obese. Maybe it's the fact that obesity itself is often caused by an addictive eating type pattern that might be substituted for other vices. You do often see people who quit cigarettes, alcohol, drugs turning to increased calorie intake to satisfy reward centers and thus gaining weight during recovery.

Good video, although I had trouble completing it or remembering any of it. (Kidding.)

@jcarty123

6 жыл бұрын

P.S. Would you consider doing a similar vid for alcohol and gainz, or other common vices? (video games, porn etc.)

Did anyone really think that MJ was a performance enhancer?! I'm pretty sure that any builders that use it use it for pain relief after/between workouts and that's it. Side note, the upper respiratory cancers are an effect of burning the dried flower buds. Vaporizing or eating cooked concentrates circumvents this health risk. As for the obesity, those people don't work out.

I hear its the high levels of nuance in the devils cabbage that get you high.

Here’s a question you didn’t address that I’m curious on your opinion: You seem to come off with a subtle negativity about weed, maybe I’m reading into it too much. Anyways, I’ve noticed you occasionally put up pics or messages on IG about drinking wine, whiskey, *insert distinguished alcoholic beverage*. Given this, do you think that someone using weed with the same frequency that you do alcohol (for likely the same reasons, to relax and unwind) is worse off or has higher negative effects? Ie, if someone prefers marijuana over alcohol and uses it reasonably, 1-2 times per week, do you see any problem with it? If yes, what is in weed’s risk/reward profile that causes you to view reasonable alcohol usage as a better alternative? I'd also like to clarify that I am by no means advocating for weed as anything other than a drug that can be used recreationally. I think the idea that it is some magic cure for a variety of ailments lacks evidence. Additionally, most of these minor ailments that it 'cures' are probably nocebo'd in the first place and the weed placebos them out of it lol.

@BarbellMedicine

6 жыл бұрын

I think that someone using cannabis with the same frequency I drink alcohol likely has minimal negative effects, if any, provided they aren't smoking it and are > 21 years old.

weed will do nothing to your gainz. im proof of that. I hit PRs weekly and smoke 2 to 3 times a day

Grip strength goes down when you're high... no shit 😂😂😂😂

Good thing this wasn't a Two Minute Tuesday or a Five Minute Friday!

@BarbellMedicine

6 жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@grizzlymanverneteil4443

6 жыл бұрын

20 minute 4/20?

Most of these negative effects (lung cancer, aerodigestive cancer,...) mentioned in this video, would this actually be caused by the weed itself or is the cause the smoking of it? I occasionally use weed with a vaporizer, this doesn't burn the weed but it vaporizes the active ingredients into a vapor. I would hope this is a lot less harmful? Also several of effects mentioned in the video is for people that use regularly (daily basis), I would assume that when you consume alcohol on a daily basis that would have a bunch of negative effects too. Let's say I use weed on occasion (on a weekly basis) I'd assume this is no more harmful than drinking alcohol on a weekly basis? (I like to make the comparison with alcohol because this is legal, while it is a hard drug, and a lot of people from a previous generation, like my parents, think this means it's less harmful).

@BarbellMedicine

6 жыл бұрын

The cancer risk appears to still be increased even without smoking it, though it is higher when smoking. As far as the effects mentioned in the video, none of them are limited to daily smokers. Most were referencing those diagnosed with cannabis use disorder per DSM V criteria, though some were just related to cannabis use in the last month, year, or lifetime. I do think there is more potential harm with alcohol, sure, but that doesn't mean there are no potential risks with MJ consumption.

@alespider9905

6 жыл бұрын

>trying to cope that hard

Chronic leaves, no seeds

Great video Jordan! The non-biased approach is always appreciated. I'm skeptical about WADA's testing methods.. After watching the documentary Icarus (2017) you can see how the athletes can "cheat" or manipulate the tests. It looks like most of the athletes use banned substances. It's about how many of them can "cheat" the tests and not about how many of them actually aren't using.

That cognitive dissonance you experience when confronted with evidence that weed won't help gainz...

@Garrick1983

4 жыл бұрын

Dave and then realize it’s good for nothing self prescribed.

I thought you were going to weigh in on your personal daily cannabis use to calm and slow down nervous energy.

would you ever consider prescribing MJ if it were ever scheduled to say, a CII, instead of CI?

@BarbellMedicine

6 жыл бұрын

Definitely, if the benefits outweigh the risk for the particular condition.

There's two things wrong with THC. #1 it affects your memor. #2. I can't remember what that is.........

Someone tag Bob Marley please 😌

I'm a fan but sheesh, that was like swimming in porridge. Could have done with an upfront summary. Details after, like many scientific paper. Some of those stats were just parroted from unreliable sources.

@BarbellMedicine

6 жыл бұрын

Unreliable sources like JAMA, The Lancet, Cochrane Review, NHANES, WHO, and the CDC? Got it.

Joe Rogan might not approve this video 😁

Smoke It after. The doms will go away and you will feel relaxed with a sense of a work well done after a day If heavy sumo deadlifts. Like I do now. Pair It with some pepperoni pizza and you will be send to heaven. If you smoke It before, be ready to forget in what rep or set you are in. 2/5 hard sets and you will want to go home.

@phenababitol

6 жыл бұрын

Kalashna Krud a set of really heavy squats becomes unsustainable.

@grizzlymanverneteil4443

6 жыл бұрын

Stoners would pull sumo...

@ticktock603

6 жыл бұрын

this is the way to go, in my experience. can't do it before a workout

@BarryDonegan

6 жыл бұрын

Using it before would clearly be a performance dis-enhancer, but if you have poor appetite and struggle to sleep using it after could make all the difference int he world in making gains.

@phenababitol

6 жыл бұрын

Exceed Your Goals Fitness Just like Arnold did.

Wow

First barbell med vid I couldnt watch all the way. Just sounded like reading statistics. Not really interested since I don't use the ganja anyhow.

Its a shame how most of the research is poorly done when there's so little of it. Everyone's heard of how smoking joints is worse than not smoking but better than tobacco, but every also has a different idea of how big a joint is. is it 1g?3g? a 7g shotgun looking thing? What about a bong vs vaporizer vs joint. Or edibles. i'd never call it a performance enhancing drug for a strength sport, but for a low-impact cardio reliant sport it could be. Also the quality of the herb is huge. If it's got pesticides on it, they're being inhaled too and likely don't have anything positive effect-wise. There was a researcher who was complaining about that being a major issue in the research since the DEA's samples for testing had mold in them. Right now so much of the research on both sides just seems dishonest and like it can be summed up just like alcohol- moderation likely matters more than anything

@BarbellMedicine

6 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure if I'd agree that the research is poorly done. When looking at the prospective trials and RCT's, nearly all of them use specific doses of THC. I wouldn't agree that the research is dishonest, but rather we need more of it to determine the potential benefits.

Lost my shit on the rat legpress

@tfranc347

6 жыл бұрын

Ikr. Lol gym rats

Um, so um, hey doc! Like, um, yer, missin' with us right? This shit is too komplikated Two mush sinse dude. Very chunky. Hahaha chronic rinse Yet the best. Naw, dude, yet phuking with ue...

@senormofeta6726

6 жыл бұрын

EDIT: sorry, Jordan, gonna smoke a J and gonna bed. Love ya bro! Couldn't finish the vid

Blah blah blah... What's the message?

making cannabis schedule 1 and criminalizing it so heavily was completely racist bullshit and it's a shame it's still on the books. if you're gonna take the time to go over the stuff everyone already knows, at least include that

@BarbellMedicine

6 жыл бұрын

That is an interesting take on it and I'm not sure exploring the societal climate at the time would be appropriate (or useful). Additionally, I'm not sure anyone who wasn't around during that time should have such a strong opinion on it. Things change, people change, and we learn as we go. Finally, I would argue that what "everyone already knows" is probably incorrect. Just ask them ;)

@grizzlymanverneteil4443

6 жыл бұрын

tfranc347 well, look at the skin tone of the children all the single white stoner women, he wasnt entirely wrong lol.

@tfranc347

6 жыл бұрын

Whether he was right or wrong, his implication was that was a bad thing, that black men and white women should not mix, hence “very racist dude”.

@tfranc347

6 жыл бұрын

Sorry man, I know it’s the internet and all but I’m not going to partake in racial stereotyping and laugh about it. Hope that’s cool

@grizzlymanverneteil4443

6 жыл бұрын

tfranc347 yeah, he was probably a piece of shit, sorry if my joke offeneded you.