The Truth About Chessboxing
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Chessboxing Carlsen vs Niemann with Hikaru as the commentator would be epic! 😁
@bojanovicd8937
Жыл бұрын
Wait for the court day
@opusdei1151
Жыл бұрын
With AI Art this will be possible in the future
@joehole1975
Жыл бұрын
@@opusdei1151 AI art bot????
@unknownentiti2351
Жыл бұрын
@@opusdei1151 wtf lol
@cravarc
Жыл бұрын
Hans vs. you know who...
Hikaru is right that none of these chess boxers would even have a chance against any decent amateur boxer. Everyone was awful but it was entertaining to watch.
@JackMott
Жыл бұрын
yeah the sport would have to be real boxers that learn chess vs the other way around, unless kids grow up doing both (they wont!)
@justrandomthings8158
Жыл бұрын
@@JackMott why not? Tons of people (kids included) play chess outside of the ring
@JackMott
Жыл бұрын
@@justrandomthings8158 there is a wide range in any activity from doing it (3 hours a week casually), to professional level training (usually around 20 hours a week or more of consistent focused structured training). Compounding the problem is it will have to be people who are smart willing to accept accumulating brain injury. And doing all that chess while being tired and concussed.
@Jules.C.
Жыл бұрын
@@JackMott Andrew Tate
@JackMott
Жыл бұрын
@@Jules.C. just need another 1000 Tates and you got a sport! get on it!
The boxing part can only be appreciated if you are really good at chess and never seen a boxing match.
@lordinquisitor6651
Жыл бұрын
It’s also only practicable if both of them aren’t experienced enough at boxing. I tried chessboxing with friends that have the same boxing experience and chess skill. What we found out is that just one good hit will incapacitate you enough to loose at each chess game.
the more hikaru reacts or comments about chess boxing. the more i want him to participate in chess boxing.
@cooperchambers630
Жыл бұрын
no point he would just blitz every opponent in the first chess round lol
@tomvanvenrooij1811
Жыл бұрын
Well the opponent could just stall in the first round of chess until you get to the boxing. Churdley vs Myth was like 3 moves in before the first boxing round. And 3 move check mate seems impossible.
@Nathan-lw1kv
Жыл бұрын
@@tomvanvenrooij1811 scholars mate
@tomvanvenrooij1811
Жыл бұрын
@@Nathan-lw1kv wow so you need to know not to play into one 3 move combo. I think most everyone can prep for that opening easily in 30 minutes.
@Chess_universe2
Жыл бұрын
@@Nathan-lw1kv(seems) impossible 🫠
I'm betting Hikaru can checkmate a professional boxer in fewer seconds than a professional boxer could knock Hikaru out.
@GregTurismo
Жыл бұрын
I’ll take you on that bet. $1000000
@Arvineas
Жыл бұрын
but the boxer could just stall
@Name-ql7jf
Жыл бұрын
The boxer would just have to play an extremely safe opening slowly. And then it’s a win
@familiasosa6379
9 ай бұрын
@@Name-ql7jf Unless they only count Hikaru's time
@moonboi3948
4 ай бұрын
No, not ever. Pro boxer gets it done in 10 sec, any weight class, it's not even close.
Just imagine the reaction from the old guard of chess if Hikaru and Magnus fought in a chessboxing match 🤣
@DavidKnowles0
Жыл бұрын
What we all want is the chessboxing match of the century, magnus vs niemann
@_A.t.g
Жыл бұрын
@@DavidKnowles0 if i remember correctly he will be fighting naked yes?
@moonboi3948
4 ай бұрын
Magnus might be willing to do it for 10mill.
I thought the ref was literally on Dina's payroll. Not only did he stop and look around and wait before even starting the 8 counts, killing time, he would step in between the fighters during the fight so that Andrea would have to go around him to get to Dina. He also said after the fight that when Dina was using the ropes for support, it should not have even been a count but called instantly for Andrea. At least it was semi-corrected after the fight and Andrea got the belt. Dina got one too, so only thing is to get a better ref next time.
@ChrisStuart911
Жыл бұрын
I believe he was trying to make sure he can separate them as Andrea was very aggressive but they kinda collided a lot meaning not a lot of hits actually made it to their bodies or head it went behind and around and was against rules So he had to separate them before continuing Also Andrea seemed very eager to fight so he wanted to make sure she stayed away and waited till he was done the count cause she seemed to forget to go to the other side of the ring and wanted to go straight into boxing which would mean more separations I could be wrong tho but they definitely need another ref next time They had another ref but he most likely took a break At least both participants got a belt
@zacharyberry5019
Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisStuart911 definitely wrong.. that ref stole at least 30 seconds from Andreas fight time
@stanleymyrick4068
9 ай бұрын
@@Steves_fish I think he just received free membership to her Only Fans account.
she refused to take a fighting position after the break which caused the ref to start a third count (right or wrong on his part this occured) and should have resulted in a loss. no different than a repetition draw.
@typercarry2090
Жыл бұрын
refusing to fight in boxing is a submission, on chess language it is resignation.
@alekhinesgun9997
Жыл бұрын
What? How is that a repetition draw? You just stated it’s a loss
@yty1941
Жыл бұрын
@@alekhinesgun9997 (well in Chinese chess repetitions would result in warning & loss 🤷♂️)
@ln4760
Жыл бұрын
@@alekhinesgun9997 the statement ment that the movement itself caused a result to occur and by the position taken by the ref and the fighter (same as the position of a board being in a repetitious position) the game is called for what it is
@xynix1549
Жыл бұрын
andrea was going to be forcibly checkmated and stalled the chess for another chance at boxing so idk how this is any different
3 stoppages occurring by knocking down or taking too much punishment leads to Technical Knockout
@lukascentauri
Жыл бұрын
Just like wii boxing 😎
@dark_winter8238
Жыл бұрын
And there were 3 and she still did not win
@Dobbyisfr33
Жыл бұрын
@@jasonhe54 3:15, 4:30 and the obvious, should have been third, count at the end.
@Thanos-snap-feminism
Жыл бұрын
@@dark_winter8238 it helped Dina say face. She wasn't ready for the boxing. In the words of Mike Tyson, everyone has a plan until they get hit in the mouth.
@Thanos-snap-feminism
Жыл бұрын
@@Dobbyisfr33 for as much smack as Dina talks on her channel, I didn't think she'd be that unprepared.
Ludwig commented that the bell was not supposed to be rung during the final count and Botez should have won.
I’ve been in some form of combat for 20 years plus, and two months of chess about a 1200 elo. Hikaru is right about this sport should never have actual boxers, this was way more entertaining and safer. We should just give Hugs and Botez the titles and not let them beat up any more chess players 😂.
@Bl1zzaro
Жыл бұрын
@@aDiamonds90 She is a chess player and is rated 1800-2000 elo her form wasn't even good for boxing its just that her stamina from workout out and doing lots of cardio paid off.
@ryanhall5360
Жыл бұрын
@Prison Mike She was up against an opponent who was way better than her at chess, ofc she had to lean towards boxing. Garbage take
@khmer5o3
Жыл бұрын
@Prison Mike dumb child, L take
@TraumaNaked
Жыл бұрын
Prison Mike, “Bad Bishop” was talking mad trash 😂 saying she was gonna make Andrea’s face so bad that she would have to resort to podcasts. The ref must have hooked up with Bad Bishop or something because that boxing officiating was fucking cringe.
@GeneralGrievousCIS
Жыл бұрын
@Prison Mike yah, Andrea going hard on boxing was, in part, because Dina trash talked prior to the match about how badly she was going to beat Andrea in boxing specifically. She said that when she was done with Andrea, Andrea would have to take up podcasting (ie. Her face would be too disfigured for KZread). Andrea proceeding to massacre her in boxing was retribution for the trash talk, as much as it was a necessity given the elo gap.
The reason Andrea was so mad is because she won the bells not supposed to ring during a standing 8 count and it was the 4th of the fight so Andrea did win they gave her the belt later because the event messed up
@jesusthroughmary
Жыл бұрын
They really did reverse this outcome?
@stanleymyrick4068
Жыл бұрын
@@jesusthroughmary No, they said it wouldn't be right to take the belt away from Dina after the fact. But gave Andrea the belt and Dina one too. What can you say except get a better ref next time.
@jesusthroughmary
Жыл бұрын
@@stanleymyrick4068 brutal
@daroaminggnome
Жыл бұрын
@@stanleymyrick4068 is it really a sporting event without some dogshit ref calls?
The chess was one sided, the boxing was one sided the other way.
@sylvesteruchia5263
Жыл бұрын
Dina shoulda put up her gloves!!
Mud-wrestling would be healthier AND hotter. Just imagine Hikaru and Magnus rolling around.
I personally enjoyed the event but I can definitely understand it’s not for everyone. It would be awesome to see some other notable chess players like maybe Jeffery Xiong or even I saw US women’s champ Jennifer Yu say she would want to. I also liked Levy commentary and thought chat was pretty rude tbh
@midnightishi1059
Жыл бұрын
What happend? I been gone for 2 year what happened to levy and hikaru
@teoryan-castillo8510
Жыл бұрын
yh i loved the commentary 😂 think some of the ppl in chat don’t get it, it’s meant to be hype
@midnightishi1059
Жыл бұрын
@@teoryan-castillo8510 what happend with Levi and hikaru?
@soiboi685
Жыл бұрын
The live chat sucked
@midnightishi1059
Жыл бұрын
@@soiboi685 what happend with hikaru and levi
A standing eight count, also known as a protection count, is a boxing judgment call made by a referee during a bout. When invoked, the referee stops the action and counts to eight. During that time, the referee will determine if the boxer can continue.
chessboxing is so weird its like monopolybasketball
@verbfrombonsai8852
Жыл бұрын
Ngl, I kinda wanna see how monopoly basketball works
@choco1101
Жыл бұрын
The Basketball Fantasy Manager GM variation
@case6189
Жыл бұрын
I’d rather either watch top GMs play a game or top boxers fight it out. This was dumb af but w.e ppl like watching junk
@theKashConnoisseur
Жыл бұрын
@@lubo1358 One of FIDE's former presidents was talking about pushing to make Chessboxing an olympic event back in the early 2010s. And it's been around as a sport for about 20 years now. It's taken pretty seriously by those who actually do it competitively.
@Jaime_Protein_Cannister
Жыл бұрын
What do you mean? Chess is a game that simulates Warfare , Anybody who does warfare , has to learn some form of "chess like" game or activity. Not that different to Football , they all base their game on tactics boards and gameplan boards.
Hikaru would premove every punch " here here here here there"
Thank you for saying it, Hikaru. Yeah, a person can be fit and strong, but if they don't know how to fight they aren't going to learn overnight. KZread is full of examples of tough guys off the street getting demolished by ordinary boxers who have trained the fundamentals for years. The point is the same on the chess side. A person can be highly intelligent and good at puzzles, but an average chess newbie isn't going to learn to beat a 1600-level player overnight no matter how hard they study.
It actually doesn't make any sense that the clock don't stop when the ref STOPS the match. It even called "stoppage". So the timer should be stopped too. As a sport ChessBoxing can actually grow, as all-around. Because it requires physical and mental strength. And it fun to watch both on chess and boxing. But rules should be corrected.
@nine9nine9
Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that's a normal boxing rule, tho I may be wrong
@z483gk
Жыл бұрын
@@nine9nine9 I don't how it is in boxing, but in UFC clock stops when ref stops the match. I would be surprised if in boxing it isn't a thing. Because time is only for boxing, and when ref stops the match, there is no boxing, so it's unfair, because every second is important.
I would give my left arm to see Hikaru chess box
The reff is supposed too stop the fight if they deem a fighter is unable too defend themselves, for any reason. It's a safety thing.
glad hikaru visually noticed the skill gap between people that want to box and people that actually box
I can See epic duel with GM Hikaru and Magnus Carlsen in chess boxing this is a fight legendary !!!
@eliaskjrbo8142
Жыл бұрын
Magnus would clobber him in both. 😂
Chessboxing (at least as far as now) is meant for hobbyists. I would have lots of fun, because I enjoy and practice both chess and boxing, but it's definitely not meant for professionals in either category, unless it's for fun
@theKashConnoisseur
Жыл бұрын
Dont get meme events like Ludwig's confused with actual sanctioned chess boxing. The current minimum requirements to fight in a Chess Boxing Global event include an Elo rating of 1,600 and a record of at least fifty amateur bouts fought in boxing or another similar martial art. That's hardly hobbyist levels of experience.
That one dude at the end, the tall black guy going against white guy with dyed hair... He was the only one with any snap on his punches, but he still had no defensive capability.
the boxing was a bit like watching roberto duran chasing sugar ray leonard. no mas, no mas.
Hikaru knowing so little about boxing does take a little away from his chess game lol.
In Boxing the ref can do a stoppage which is a standing eight count if the fighter isn't defending thenselves intelligently. Three standing eight counts is an automatic win for the other fighter. When the third stoppage occurred the fight was over no count was needed. Andrea won.
Didn't expect Aman or Andrea to have that much fight in them. Looking at stature, you'd bet money on Lawrence because he was taller and had the reach. I thought it was goofy Andrea posing in boxing gear, but she took serious and gave Dina more than she could handle boxing.
Hikaru on jerma: “You’re not that guy pal”
never thought hikaru would end of creating one of the new chess genre in history. cheers to hikaru and eric
@theKashConnoisseur
Жыл бұрын
Chess boxing has been around longer than Hikaru has been a streamer.
@shatranj
Жыл бұрын
@@theKashConnoisseur referring the famous street chessboxing fight between these guys as a meme
@theKashConnoisseur
Жыл бұрын
@@shatranj If memory serves, that infamous recorded tussle involved very little chess OR boxing. Was more of a "shit talk then hug each other and roll around on the grass" kind of affair. But Yasser's commentary was gold.
The ref kept getting involved way too much.
Where are these videos coming from? Isn't hikaru in Kazakhstan playing that world blitz chess?
Gotham out here with the fire Yu-Gi-Oh reference
A stoppage would be a knock down or a standing 8 count, If a player has no time on their own clock they automatically lose.
Very dynamic sport. It creates moments in wich you have to go all in with boxing (boxing can become very static and slow) and there is also waiting tactics like we saw in these match. 10/10 sport
@ThanhNguyen-qx5ck
Жыл бұрын
look stupid
@mwalter98
Жыл бұрын
normally there is a limitation to stalling, I think you have to make a move in 15s or sth like that
@andreramos148
Жыл бұрын
Lmao just pretending boxing isn't basically always super slow now a days
If a chess player does a match with a boxer, whatever comes first may decide who wins it (assuming the boxer isn't that good). Assuming there's no stalling. The boxer could stall in the chess round and the chess player could just focus on running and dodging in the boxing. Unless the chess is first and 2mins altogether, that could be fun. Then the chess player might have an edge
@sada0101
Жыл бұрын
There is no stalling punches flying your way
@user-md1ol7nj7h
11 ай бұрын
@@sada0101 but there is stalling in clinching/running
they fought for like 25s in that last round. It was ridiculous.
what he said at the start is so true
now i want to watch them playing chess roulettle
I seem to recall that former world champion Lenox Lewis was a chess player though I dont know to what standard. Maybe his take woud be interesting?
The boxer skills will be always more beneficial in that type of event. The problem is a good boxer don't need to even know how to pieces goes to win chessboxing matchup against top chess players. Because you can always steel a clock for at least 2 rounds of boxing so if you can win by these 2 rounds, you don't need to even touch pieces.
I wanna see Hikaru vs Magnus in chess boxing
Hikaru start training boxing low key on the side then... one day... out of nowhere! Instant chess boxing champ
I love that Hikaru THINKS he’s making a hot take
The only rules that would fit its by giving the player moves with word, like (kG4 bF3) something like that while at the sametime do boxing. Ps: with 20 seconds every moves and illegal moves cause disqualified from the game.
Hikaru, you should show up in some new movie in a Vegas or bar scene as a random extra who has a part where you say you and do you in a hilarious way, but maybe have like .. idk just get in a movie already son, you're a legend who needs more spots
This is so funny too me 💀 like oh you took my queen? Take theze hands👊🏽👊🏽
Now I have seen it all. Yugioh reference in a boxing match lmao
Hikaru only fights if he is drunk at a party, screaming " I do not entertain".
Now we need to do professional boxers learning chess, and doing chess boxing
I wish there was an eval bar for the striking 😂😂
Da mystery of chess boxing. No better way to show you are the most powerful human being in the room
Everybody gangsta untill Mayweather starts playing chess boxing and not playing a single chess move in any match.
I think it would be interesting boxer has to survive first chess round chess player has to win first or survive second. Have to add a time for the boxer if he doesn't move otherwise just stall until the second then put them in a coma.
She shoud fight the ref would be very satisfying
What would be better than boxing would be slap fighting!
Hikaru is right, the average adult between 20-40 years old would stand less than 1 minute against a real boxer, less than 30 seconds even. Also this fight was a shame, Andrea got robbed, she destroyed Dina. The referee did his job very poorly.
@DionMango
Жыл бұрын
how did the referee did his job poorly
@muranziel
Жыл бұрын
@@DionMango He kept stopping the fight after one punch from Andrea, which took time off the clock for nothing.
@Inertia888
Жыл бұрын
@@DionMango stepping in to separate a grapple, when there was no grapple, did take time off the clock. Had he only separated for actual grapple, and for standing counts, that last standing count may have been the boxing win. Although, I am sure he was doing what he was trained to do. No salt toward him, just something to consider going forward.
@EnigmaChess
Жыл бұрын
he later apologized and Ludwig said they both win
@hermaeusmora424
Жыл бұрын
Ludwig later gave them both the win because of the referee situation
HAHAHA goddamn, something I never imagined seeing was andrea botez throwing hands on a ring. What the fuck is going on
I'd be very curious to see Botez fight someone more athletic, since she clearly way outclassed Dina in the boxing section. I want to know if Botez is actually good at fighting or if she only appears good by fighting someone who's been to a boxing gym like five times in her life.
@cuneytunsal5422
Жыл бұрын
She doesnt even appear good what ate you talking about. Like you know anything about boxing :D
@mielipuolisiili7240
Жыл бұрын
No, she's not good. She's been practising boxing for, what, a couple of months now? No one's good in that amount of time.
@zacharyberry5019
Жыл бұрын
@@mielipuolisiili7240 she’s definitely not good, but she also doesn’t look very athletically gifted. So stiff with no fluidity. The only positive is she kind of kept her hands up
@brandonday2494
Жыл бұрын
Andrea has only been to a boxing gym like five times in her life. If she really wanted to be a boxer, she might be fairly good. She's got the energy and learned a lot quickly. But whatever, this is all just a fun event. People are taking it all way too seriously.
@luciferv1775
Жыл бұрын
@@mielipuolisiili7240 she's been practicing only for a month.
Rocky:Nobody can sleep a Russian like me. Andrea:”Hold my pawn”
After watching this boxing I went straight to see some old Mike Tyson matches
I think Andrea is ready to fight against Canelo Alvarez.
I would defeantly want to watch Hikaru VS Magnus play chessboxing
Chess needs and I say it needs a fight/ppv format strictly for chess not boxing.
The Buffer brothers never knew each other growing up. Crazy story to look go read about.
I'm not very good at chess only 500 in blitz, but I think I would be pretty good at chess boxing after watching some of this 😂
very different style of video from anna, but i do like this.
Idk about you guys, but I'd gladly lose my chess game if I got to kick some butt in the ring Lol
Yeah!!! HIKARU!! ! When do You fight with Magnus!!!???
Imagine Niemann vs Magnus & Hikaru boxing match
I'm following you in the tournament now, I wish you luck
So what chess rating would an amateur boxer need to achieve to be able to win the world chessboxing title?
@theKashConnoisseur
Жыл бұрын
According to Wiki: "The current minimum requirements to fight in a Chess Boxing Global event include an Elo rating of 1,600 and a record of at least fifty amateur bouts fought in boxing or another similar martial art." Now, obviously that doesn't apply for meme events and exhibition bouts like Ludwig's event. But if you wanted to be the Chessboxing champ in an official capacity, them's the rules.
-Real talk at 6:20 😂😂😂😂😂 -But I aspire to the chess calculating mind over being a proficient fighter anyday 👌🏽🤷🏻♂️
Hikaru vs Tyson Fury next
The chess board should be set up outside the ring
Chessboxing Hikaru vs Tyson
As a 1200 I would dominate chess boxing. The boxing part is ridiculous.
I feel like a mud pit on the ring and wrestling instead of boxing would make this better.
😂 😂 😂 You lost the chess game now you gotta fight 😂 😂. Shout out to the Botez sisters for always coming up with this shii.
Hans would be a crazy boxer
I want to see chessboxing with the rounds reversed: First boxing, then chess… 😈
We are talking about years of training vs 2-6 months of training
Levi vs Boetez.......thats the ticket!!
How long are players allowed to stall in the chess game? Of course at some point they are going to run out of times, but a boxer might get 2 rounds of boxing without any threat of defeat on the chess board, by not moving anything. If you are able to knock someone out in two rounds, you don't need any chess.
Chess and boxing are my favorite...well MMA but I would never do MMA but have kickboxed before. The sweet sciences
Andrea’s pretty good ngl
Not sure why people want to see people strike each other in the brain or want to pursue it. If it's people who dedicated their whole life to combat hitting each other that's one thing, but wanting to see amateurs in a mental field get just good enough to accidentally cause mild brain damage is not for me.
Right this competition requires boxers that happen to play chess.
Hikaru I can take u in a fight 💪
The rules should be modified so that the boxing round starts when the two players have BOTH used X amount of time. This way, a very good player stands a chance against a very good boxer if he plays very fast, he can mate him in the first chess round
Thanks
Its more fun watching Boxers play Chess.
Hikaru posts YT vid3os while in the tournament. What a giga chad.. 😆
Magnus vs Hikaru chess boxing?
Hikaru Nakamura vs Eric Hansen. Make it happen.
Looks like Andrea had a Glasgow smile every time she takes a sip of water. Found it very horrifying!
i was wondering if chess"boxing" was an expression... yeah it really isnt
D&DDiceBoxing edition!!