Your videos are by far the best free educational resource for objects relational psychoanalysis that I could find. I really appreciate your efforts.

@doncarveth

6 жыл бұрын

Thank you, that helps me keep at it!

I can't believe there are videos like these on KZread. I love the way you read and analyze, you have just the right tempo and rhythm and you manage to find the right balance between exposing the author's ideas and making sense of them within your own perspective. Thank you!

@doncarveth

4 жыл бұрын

That’s very kind, thank you.

Welcome back, professor. I've been eagerly waiting for your next videos! Thought provoking and a great lesson.

Thank you for taking the time to make these wonderful videos! They are so informative and I appreciate your vast knowledgeable, as well as your unique, and all-too-relevant perspective on classic theories. I also particularly appreciate how you reference your sources so we can dive deeper into the concepts and principles (which I will be doing for my dissertation). I look forward to following your work.

Glad you found it helpful. We live in a very scary times. But the popularity of the TYT programs gives me hope.

For those who wish to read the texts referenced here: Project Gutenberg has Freud's Experiences in Groups and the Analysis of the Ego available freely in ebook (epub format): www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/35877 And for Bion: Bion's Experiences in Groups: archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22Bion%2C+Wilfred+R.+%28Wilfred+Ruprecht%29%2C+1897-1979%22 You can borrow any of these 3 copies in their library for 14 days (one person at a time, unfortunately..so when you're done, be sure to return it so someone else can read it) from the internet archive library, all you'll need is a free account, a laptop or desktop computer, and Adobe Digital Editions installed on it. And a couple of pieces of secondary literature on Bion's group psychology: de Board, Robert. 1978. Groups and their basic assumptions -- the influence of Wilfred Bion (in The Psychoanalysis of Organisations, Chapter 5): counsellingfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/The-Psychoanalysis-Of-Organizations-Chap-5.pdf de Board, Robert. 1978. Organization as a defence against anxiety (in The Psychoanalysis of Organisations, Chapter 9): counsellingfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/De-Board-R.-The-Psychoanalysis-of-Organisations.-Ch.9-Organisation-as-a-defense-against-anxiety..pdf

Thank you Donald, for posting this. Your teachings are a great inspiration and support in my final year of studying clinical psychology! I am currently writing my masters thesis on "Bion and Antiquity", more specifically about how Sophocles´(or Hölderlins translation rather) of Antigone can be used as an object of psychoanalytic literary criticism, through layered readings based on different aspects of Bions work, and this was very helpful!

@doncarveth

Жыл бұрын

Glad to hear it.

Thank you so much for this lecture! It very much helped me with a better understanding of Bion's work group and basic assumptions-group concepts and also shedding light on how contemporary larger processes might be understoood in light of these. Very grateful for your work and looking forward to seeing your other lectures.

@doncarveth

6 жыл бұрын

Mikael , thank ypu.

I'm an American starting my MPhil in Psychoanalytic Studies at Trinity College Dublin and excited to use your lectures as a supplement to my program. Many thanks, professor!

Thank you dan for the leactures. They are full of insight and wisdom. I love them. I don't agree at all with the politics of the video. I think it is an amazing example of how the split position is common for people both of the left and the right. It saddens me. Great video. Thank you.

Thank you so much for all the educational videos and all of them are so amazing! You have helped me a lot with my study in psychoanalysis! So much gratitude!

can't tell you how glad I am to find out that there are such videos on KZread. thank you Don, Best wishes

@doncarveth

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Looking back on it it seems prescient

Student of Art Psychotherapy, thoroughly enjoying your lectures! Huge thanks

Thank you for this wonderful lecture!

Revered Prof. Carveth, it's indeed a wonderful Psychodynamic presentation of Group Psychology and its nuances. Significant dynamic elements of Political Psychology have been incorporated. Thanks❤

@doncarveth

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you

Very good. Thanks for letting me know.

Thank you very much for your explanations so helpful to me in my studies. Greetings from a german in France!

I learned a lot through these videos. Thanks a lot!

Thanks Ina and Brook for your kind comments.

Amazingly clear and fascinating.Thank you !

@doncarveth

3 жыл бұрын

Mozt welcome

Hi! I'm from Brazil and I'll start a project about Bion's "experiences in group" and the impacts, influences in Brazil presidential elections, contemplaning the results and the influence of social medias in the results. The videos that you, sir, posted about Bion will be of great help and I want to thank you by that, for sharing your knowledge! And I want to know if you, sir, has any articles that I can read about crowd psychology or Bion's "Experience in Groups"? Have a great day and thank you again!

You are most welcome. Best of luck with your studies.

Highly instructive .

Angela, thank you.

Interesting point on Henry Kissinger and his reading of Freud. The same point (forces of the nationalized in USSR) was made by Herman Hesse in his essays.

Brilliant lecture

JuSt because a group is organised does not mean they are functioning in the depressive

Thank you!

How possible have any theory on the base theory of Freud and others?

Very interesting talk, thank you! What are your thoughts on identity politics? Have safe spaces created an infinite number of in-groups that take their aggression out on an infinite number of out-groups? How would you analyze these safe space in-groups?

@doncarveth

4 жыл бұрын

The ruling class is delighted with identity politics, all these in groups and out groups battling one another instead of the real enemy.

Most welcome

In maturity the group and the individual are one and can not be distinguished from each other

Thanks. This video provides some explanation to the inexplicable, bizarre, morally regressive Trump-and-supporters phenomenon that has been unfolding in the international arena. Quite puzzling to an Australian.

@9000ck

3 жыл бұрын

It shouldn't be that puzzling, we have Pauline Hanson who has a similar appeal to racial, gender and economic grievance and resentment. It has probably worked on a widespread basis in the US due to greater economic inequality and fewer opportunities for advancement combined with marketing and financial power of the private businesses / billionaires/ GOP that have donated to his campaign. I have no doubt a trump like figure could arise here. It just requires the right person and the right conditions. Thank goodness for Don pointing out how it could happen.

@katelynnehansen8115

3 жыл бұрын

It’s frightening for an American.

So would you say the super ego is characterised by hate, disappointment, dissatisfaction, disgust, ungratefulness etc the other side of the id

In terms of mobs, how would you characterize the Jan 6th mob which had threads of organization within itself?

@doncarveth

Жыл бұрын

Yes, a bit more organized than a lynch mob, or so it looks.

This is amazing and you can see where Jung diverts ...

@doncarveth

4 жыл бұрын

Where is that?

Same for net-incentive capitalists. "Austerity" unless maximally applied upon the 1%ers perenially.

I think an unstructured group is the id and a structured group is the super ego

Your opening paragraphs on Freud sounds similar to what I call delusional thinking.

I just understood that you separate consciousness from the super ego! The super ego is hate! But why can it make you do good stuff?

I'm also not convinced Freud's dedication to Mussolini means what you think it means. You have to look at context, too. A fascist came to Freud's house and asked him for a signature (a dedication to take back to Mussolini). Freud gave him a copy of his work "Why War?" with the inscription "Benito Mussolini with the respectful greetings of an old man who recognizes in the ruler the cultural hero." First, "respectful greetings of an old man" - sounds like Freud could be making a statement about his agency. More importantly, that work - "Why War?" has little nice to say about "culture", it likens it to, and blames it for violence. Note as well - Freud was soon thereafter bashed in the Italian media. So I think that was a subtle backhanded criticism of Mussolini that people today fail to appreciate, but which was not lost on Italy at the time. It's true that Freud did not like American democracy, but heck - Plato didn't like Democracy either (thought it was corrupt & led to Tyranny). That doesn't mean Freud supported Mussolini.

@doncarveth

4 жыл бұрын

I didn’t mean he supported him, only that he admired him. Yes you can do a generous reading of the facts . Lots of people want to I do you lies Freud, see him as a great humanist, some even want to see him as a social Democrat. Many want to look away from his Darkside.

@foundfathrsweredeist

4 жыл бұрын

@@doncarveth At the time, Mussolini was getting great press for his work restoring Rome and Roman cultural artifacts. The New York Times (and many others) "admired" Mussolini's restoration of Rome in 1933 too, you know. You talk about Freud's "darkside" as if he had more of a darkside than anyone else. He didn't. Here's an example very close to your Freud example. Bernie Sanders. Bernie Sanders in 1972 wrote how he "admired and respected" Wallace supporters who were angry about busing & desegregation, and wrote apologist socialist nonsense as to how they were "alienated" and if only they had a "decentralized govt." (which obviously couldn't force integration) and the "means of production" things would be better. But if they had the means of production, wouldn't they just deny blacks jobs, too? This Freud has a "dark side" stuff is bunk. Compared to who? The real truth is that Freud's model exposed HUMANITY'S "dark side", and people can't take it. This idea that Freud has any more "dark side" than your average person is projection, isn't it?

@doncarveth

4 жыл бұрын

John Muir did I say Floyd had more Darkside than others? No, I just said he had a Darkside. I am being Freudian in saying that. But I do you logical Freudians can’t hear that.

@foundfathrsweredeist

4 жыл бұрын

@@doncarveth "you logical Freudians" So Freud's darkside is what...logic? I see you wrote this: www.academia.edu/2770455/Freuds_Flawed_Philosophy_of_Religion ...so I'm guessing your beef with Freud is that he was too critical of religion? Once again, this feels more like projection. Freud's exposure of the dark side of religion, somehow becomes a "dark side" of Freud? I guess I ultimately don't know what you mean by Freud's "dark side". That seems to imply some "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" dichotomy, that to the best of my knowledge - doesn't fit. "Dark side", popularly, refers to emotions like "anger, fear, aggression". I don't really associate any of that with Freud, who, as you yourself lament - was "logical", not emotional. I guess ultimately I'm not sure what you're referring to. Is it maybe a desire that our public intellectuals be parent-substitutes of sorts and show equal love to all, and in his unsparing analysis of religion Freud was a "bad father" who showed partiality? I'm not sure that "he criticized my beliefs" qualifies as a "dark side". But maybe I am, as you suggest, blinded by logic. That said - Freud never called for the suppression or censorship of religion, or anything like that. He was not opposed to religion. He just analyzed it and used it for grist for his models of human psychology. Even if you think his criticisms are too much, or lack empathy, I don't think they could be said to constitute a "dark side".

@Wegardr

4 жыл бұрын

@@foundfathrsweredeist i see this exchange was a while ago but you were going the wrong path here as clearly the word he meant was "ideological" Freudians

Thank you for the wonderful and extensive description of group dynamics. After US elections anyway I was wondering why US citizens being in the mental state of the schizoparanoid position choose narcissism (Trump) instead of psychopathy (Hillary) I have explained that to myself it is because they felt that a caring narcissistic father/mother was after all safer than a non caring psychopathic father/mother (of course in the realm of the fantastic primary process thinking) Trump defends the US from the heights of his inflated Ego and Hillary thinks that one US ambassador dead is more or less not a big deal and laughs with absolutely no empathy to Gaddaffi being sodomized and then killed by the crowd. Bion is totally right (before him Zar Alexander) in stating that "the group has the leaders it deserves" or better chooses.

As far as I am concerned, they are both cycle pathic, and psychopathy emerges from narcissism.

america found a good specimen, brilliant

Germany was also hard hit by severe war reparations on the (understandable) wish of France to punish them, hard.

But the naZis where a structured group?

@doncarveth

3 жыл бұрын

I think one can organize a structured group to pursue a paranoid-schizoid ideology

As a "card-carrying" communist I'd be interested to know how an organised working class is more of a worry than the organised forces of neoliberal capitalism?

@doncarveth

3 жыл бұрын

Celestial Teapot You seem to have misunderstood me. I am all in favour of an organized working class and an opponent of Neo liberal capitalism. I think you have confused an explication of Freud’s views with an agreement with them.

@d.nakamura9579

3 жыл бұрын

@GROID-19 nah. but Carveth does explain the dangers of trumpism and his coopting of the Republican Party quite well. And I don’t think you understand what constitutes the working class today, which is largely made up of the “leftist” multicultural groups you apparently consider radical. It’s all a far right cover for blatant racism and sexism. No thanks.

Yeah, father of the hordes cannot be a solution to capitalism "anyone can say to me".

Yeah, Nietzsche nor Heidegger are of any use.

45min Yeah, the psycopath.

There is no "Trump Effect"; except, that his administration possibly resembles some other. Trump is not the first; therefore, Trump is not a first to establish a model to follow.