The "who's the fastest" competition may never be beat or cost big bucks but the "who's the cleanest" also can be costly but the respect from a simple clean stock fox will always be appreciated

@ckaydgaf

9 ай бұрын

THIS! I have 2 foxes and my 88 notchback I keep pure as possible while still being clean as hell and have the goodies. Completely rewired entire car from scratch, it was HELL, but 100% worth it, can literally stand in my engine bay I can't stand seeing all these foxes with the ugly ass stock intake and wiring everywhere, all the emissions, etc so cleaned all thag up ofc Either than that it's stock, and the $$$ offers I get are insane purely cause the nostalgia people get from this car, specifically a notch

@lldjslim

9 ай бұрын

My 1990 ford mustang lx 5.0 setup, Gt40 Explorer heads, gt40 Explorer upper and lower intake, factory cam, k&n drop in air filter, 65mm throttlebody, off-road h-pipe, shorty ceramic coated headers,sub frame connectors, 3 core radiator, a/c and smog pump delete, and a Lincoln mark viii electric fan. Should get you over 300hp at the crank with mostly junkyard parts Future mods,maybe 3.55 gears Foxbody 4-LIFE

@MP-pz9oe

8 ай бұрын

​@@lldjslim more like 280

@nicklbckluvr

7 ай бұрын

I have one thanks bro!

Badass topic bro! It's so crazy just how much more builds actually cost over what we "think"

@ross9644

9 ай бұрын

Love it when a old white man uses bro in a statement 😂

@tarandeiniol3092

9 ай бұрын

Your telling me my 89 gt supposed to be H.C.I with paint ,😂 it went to 10 blink of a eye 12 shit then 15 s.o.b now hitting $20 k🤦 finishing up with S550 interior with terminator x this last year all parts houses know I don't keep or want ANY RECEIPTS because it depresses a guy to total it up and still haven't installed twin turbos yet like I wanted

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

​@ross9644 we used to say bro 20+ years ago man where you been? Brew2l is just in his 40s he's not really "old" you must be young lol

@lldjslim

9 ай бұрын

My 1990 ford mustang lx 5.0 setup, Gt40 Explorer heads, gt40 Explorer upper and lower intake, k&n drop in air filter, 65mm throttlebody, off-road h-pipe, shorty ceramic coated headers,sub frame connectors, 3 core radiator, a/c and smog pump delete, and a Lincoln mark viii electric fan. Should get you over 300hp at the crank with mostly junkyard parts Future mods,maybe 3.55 gears Foxbody 4-LIFE

What a great video! I’ve had 13 mustangs and I can totally relate to making it into a monster and hating driving it!

So freaking true, going down that rabbit hole of chasing horse power numbers, track numbers, or show car looking degrees of cost making a car unreal expectations, always talk to someone who has been there.

150 shot and leave it alone guys … mid 11’s the easy way

I enjoy learning about all of this seriously!. As someone who has quite literally DREAMED of having a Foxbody since I was 9yrs old now 37yrs old it's great to know what it would take/cost to get the Foxbody I always dreamed/wanted.. For me it's not about being the fastest or even the best looking just something that I'm proud to have and drive. I want 375-400hp and can handle it without being uncontrollable while sounding awesome. And I can drive and or handle HP etc just fine if the car is setup for it aka built right.. So for me it's not really about keeping up with today's standards of insanity but just enjoying life and my car and if I can find that combination in a LX Hatch Fox I can and would die happy.. Anyways thank you for sharing this and being straight with us all because some people do make it sound cheap or easy which isn't the case especially these days even on "Budget Builds".. Hope that you and everyone here are doing well and will enjoy the weekend. 🙏🙏🍻

Great advice! I've been there done that, had an 08 and 17 GT that were 475hp and 650hp respectively. I'm keeping my 86 stock with some bolt on mods and gears.

Very good topic and information. These are things they need to know. We often give our customers everything they need to get them going plus we are able to get them the hp they want using ported parts that greatly reduce the cost than it typically is. Our ported parts are cheaper and so is our cams.

Everything he said is correct. We could add things like subframe connectors, wheels and tires, suspension and WAY more. I’ve had my car 25+ years. I’m still considering doing a coyote swap or s/c after everything he talked about. THEN if you want the car to look good, get ready for paint, seals, etc… THEN I have to worry about breaking parts and blocks because I’ve exceeded what they can hold. It’s not for the faint of heart, you HAVE to love these cars. Or, just buy a Hyundai that can keep up with a 30 year old car. P.S. I still smoke check a bunch of newer cars and look good doing it 😂. Just don’t expect to keep up with a 1000hp new car.

@chrismoher5444

8 ай бұрын

Somtimes I sit and think about all the money I have pissed down the drain building cars into what I want. From Hondas to ford's I could have just bought a lambo and Ferrari as its about the same amount invested into many shit boxes but I did gain alot of experience and knowledge along the way which in the end is priceless.

@midnight347

22 күн бұрын

A new grocery getter that runs similar numbers to a stockish fox is gonna be super boring and nowhere near as fun as a 5 speed fox. There is more to cars than just what numbers they do. The ev guys ain't figured this out yet lol

Good morning Caleb, this is without a doubt one of the best foxbody videos on KZread talking about building! If you are starting a build,halfway through or completed a build. Everyone will gain something from watching this video. What you talk about I had come to these conclusions already having finished my build. it’s nice to have those lessons reinforced from someone else with experience. I thought when you got to the end you were going to say coyote swap is the best way to go for performance and economics. I remember you saying that years ago and me thinking that’s a lot of money, but in the end that might be the best way to go…with that being said I have a 306 that I cruise on the street, and I am extremely happy with because I took my time and really figured out what I wanted and being the fastest on the street with McLarens and Ferrari’s around is just a fools game!

Great video Caleb! All that you said was right on point Brother! The Foxbody Rabbit Hole is NO joke...A person definitely needs to count the cost before going down this path!

Possibly my favorite video of yours. This video covered ALL the angles and the shit I think about in a daily basis

Great information! I was shocked by the additional costs as I modified my car. There are so many things you don’t think about until you are in the middle of the project. Thanks!

This is some seriously good information. Get that spreadsheet out! And change rubber items as often as possible. And keep some spares too!!

Really good video 👍 I may have the unicorn but my t-5 has withstood NOS, heads, intake, vortech & Paxton blowers etc …. Still going strong 💪🏼 🙏🏼🐴

Really appreciate this video it was very informative I have a 1990 lx hatchback that im looking to either 351w swap or do a 347 stroker on I would love to make about 400hp in it my 2011 5.0 makes about that much and is a absolute blast to drive so I can only imagine what 400hp in my foxbody will feel like hopefully in a couple of years I can make that happen until then I'll enjoy her for what she is a fun cruiser with a little pep

@P71ScrewHead

9 ай бұрын

351W has my vote.. The block can handle all the power you can dream of.. Seen stock engines doing 600-700rwhp just boosted.. A 460ci BBF would be even better tho.. Trust me bro..lol

@imperfectbeliever8127

9 ай бұрын

Yep. I went 460. Still not a budget build but didn't take as much to make 400 hp.

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

​@imperfectbeliever8127 that thing is heavy as hell though. A coyote is far lighter than even an old 302 let alone a 351 or 460. Long as it's a Ford I'm down.

Incredible video...spot on..I just completed at 408 stroker...

Great topic especially for us younger guys. I have an 83 Capri I just put together. 351 Reman out of a truck I bought out of a field. Some old iron, RHS heads, and some dss flat top pistons with the xe274 made 464 rwhp carbureted. Bought the car as a roller came with a 9 inch with 4.30s drag lights. And bought a t5 that had been gone through with third gear syncro removed. I’m less than 5k into the car.

this is the best accurate video when it comes to dealing with the cost to modding a foxbody. I'm over 14 grand and it can barely keep up with 2016 and newer coyote mustangs. if a hell cat charger pulls next to me. I'm not winning that one. I have a twin turbo kit for it but its not installed because the block can't handle the boost. I want a 363 stroker block but can't afford one right now, need a stronger transmission like a tko 6 speed. this don't include other things it will need to accommodate the new mods. Sometimes I wish I just bought a 2004 cobra and called it a day.

Great video!

What a great video explaining the true cost of a build. Muzzy was a motorcycle aftermarket supplier. He did a cost to horsepower on everything he listed for the ZRX1100. You had a true coat per HP number. Pipe was X, cams was X, had work and cams was XX. It was great and you did a great job telling it like it is. Had to laugh when you said in a week you will get bored with it. Because most get use to it quick and still want more. Great video.

I truly agree with you on building a car and then not enjoying it. I did that with my last foxbody. When I was done trying to make it fast I hated driving it further than the grocery store.

My '94 GT has reached 362 HP, to the wheels, & 400 FT/LBS torque. 347 Stroker rebuild of original 302, Vortech V2 SI Trim supercharger, Tremec TKO 600(swapped out an AODE),Steeda tri ax shifter, 4/10 gears, the car has reached a plateau with all the ripple effects dealt with. I'm not going any further after all this: Flowmasters, h-pipe, Bullit brakes, BBK equal length headers, chop, weight reduction via: aluminum heads/driveshaft, tubular K member, tubular control A arms. Welded subframe connectors, Eibach sway bars, 2 inch suspension drop, hood vents, 180° thermostat, caster camber plates, deep dish 10.5" rear wheels with 1" wheel spacers, Corbeau race seats, rear seat delete kit. Gained about 147HP and I'm good. Sure an ecoboost S550 gets 305 HP, stock, but back in '94 my car would've blown people away! I'm not crazy enough to start a new ripple effect to the next plateau. At least my motor isn't going to blow up. A bigger 3.8" vortech pulley has ensured my non forged internals will last. It's all I need for this summer driven car. The modding addiction is out of my system at 56 years old. (Except the possibility of adding 3/73 gears.) I recommend performance upgrades but don't go too far with it. It isn't worth the money after about 400 hp to the wheel in the city. The long road is the way to go. Chip away at it, yearly, and you won't feel too burned financially.

@midnight347

22 күн бұрын

A new eb has 305 at the crank stock and weighs like 300 lbs more than your car so it ain't as close in performance as you think. It ain't just about peak numbers everyone focuses on hp and ignores everything else.

Its a rabbit hole for sure. I just did a set of heads i bought from neo a few months ago. They were great as is with the new springs and such. But, i wanted more.. after porting then i needed more intake.. so on and so on.. lmdid all the porting myself but still after gaskets and such still wasnt very budget..then a couple weeks ago i decided to open it back up and do a cam as you said the new found hp got boring.. being speed density i was limited on cam selection and of the available they aren't cheap. Do i ordered up a crower 15511 cam. That 400 dollar cam turned into almost double that after gaskets, timing chain and gears, pushrods, and so on.. just got it done and again feels much better and sounds amazing but i know in a month or so ill be wanting more.. never ends! I guess ill just have to go ahead next and order up the few parts i have yet to grab to install the supercharger ive had sitting around for over a year.. but that in itself is hoing to bring its own cmtuning challenges being soeed density.. nothings cheap anymore its just the love of these old cars that keeps us going!

Excellent video! I agree in your assessment 100%. In addition, depending on where you live, you have to think about keeping it SMOG LEGAL!

This vid is spot on. I’m doing mostly stock with heads, injectors, ac and even some cats😂 For me 300 or so is enough

@midnight347

22 күн бұрын

300 wheel is gonna be tough with what you said hope you meant crank. Headers and full exhaust with a good heads cam intake setup can Def get over 300 rwhp easy.

Great vid Caleb, power is costly and I also feel like guys forget about Driveability and reliability when building cars, I have a 347 stroker vortech v1 full built top to bottom,,wicked fun but not very drivable, but can go out and jump in my termi swapped notch and cruise for hours. I always tell anyone that asks, look at the big picture, what is the plan for a car, wow factor, or the enjoyment factor.

Great topic you just talked me out of rebuilding my old school 302 in favor of a Coyote swapp. That is where I want to be HP wise anyway. Thank you because the Coyote is drivable daily and is fun at the push of the skinny pedal.

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

It is lighter with it too plus it will get better mpg. In the new stangs mpg is similar to a fox but they weigh 500-800 lbs more so it'll do even better in a fox.

@lldjslim

9 ай бұрын

My 1990 ford mustang lx 5.0 setup, Gt40 Explorer heads, gt40 Explorer upper and lower intake, k&n drop in air filter, 65mm throttlebody, off-road h-pipe, shorty ceramic coated headers,sub frame connectors, 3 core radiator, a/c and smog pump delete, and a Lincoln mark viii electric fan. Should get you over 300hp at the crank with mostly junkyard parts Future mods,maybe 3.55 gears Foxbody 4-LIFE

Sounds like the biggest issue is learning to be content. A stock 5.0 with “day 2” type mods is the easiest/cheapest way to get enjoyment. Gears, shifter, exhaust, wheels, stance. Mines been stuck there for the last 5 years. But I have enjoyed the car tremendously. 306 block, HCI along with all your listed parts sit new in boxes waiting for me to do one day. Not sure if or when that day will ever come.

Awesome video.💯

You are 100% on the money if your doing all new parts catalog build, like most and myself we just wait and search for deals, I just picked up 2 upper and 1 lower explorer intakes for $100 and a low hour 88 roller block e7te marine engine that came with flat tappets and less desirable e5ae heads from factory ,it's basically a truck engine for $50! is the intake a track heat...no but there's change left for porting still. Marketplace can shave a lot of a build but yes no one needs 1000hp who cares if you can piss as far. I love my 95 vert it only has 18" cobras with 265/35 tires, gutted cats and muffler Delete, it sounds sexy As hell and sounds fast but it isn't at all and I enjoy it. Yeah I've had and have small town fast cars it ain one of em and I want it a bit livelier but I'm not building it, my near Future plans it that gt40 intakes a nice cam and a set of headers and I'm going to build a full custom 2.5" exhaust (I'm a welder/fab by profession), that was it will be a little bit livelier and rev out a little better, Down the road likely a set of gt40 heads and I'll be good, 300 crank I'll be content for that car. I have an old hot rod truck that's my do dumb stuff with vehicals. I don't think it's as much you will get bored of it in a week as much as where you live, in rural ME it's easy to be content with fun in the populated area with a sea of alpha bro's with 800hp+ vehicals around it's a pissing contest and it's easy to get discouraged for not being fast, a drivable 300-350whp car is where the fun is, if its quick and good at making noise and smoke and you don't need to pop the hood very often you will be way happier than a needy monster that drains your wallet and it's perpetually broken, My advice is if you have that go fast bug and you have a 5.0 fox or sn95 do a few affordable power mods and make it look and sound sick and enjoy it then pick up a cheap older vehical an old cheap mustang pickup or Camaro whatever and build it old school style toss a $500 5.3 in it, do a cheap diy turbo kit, nitrous or custom junkyard blower install type stuff, there's piles of people with stupid FAST budget junkyard builds like that, a 600hp 5.3 is effortless! Basically if you don't need to build within a narrow set of parameters i.e. 8.2 deck Windsor and fox parts or even has to be EFI it's way cheaper.... and the biggest thing don't worry about how fast they other guys, don't bother trying to be the fastest, the guy with the most money to burn will be the fastest period so why kill yourself trying to beat a wallet, also you can't keep up with these millionaire KZreadrs either ! Cleatus blows up a $50,000 long block and he has another being overnighted that next day. Who says hey I got n idea of what we can do with that dusty 850hp 632 BBC in the corner we have no use for, lets toss it in our junk tow truck... No one working a blue collar job for a living is. Cars are supposed to be fun not a needy stressful financial burden. Rant over sorry.

Informative Video

Yup. Decided to not even mess with the 302 because like you said, it wouldn't take long to get use to, so I went straight to the 408. Hopefully, that will hold me for a while.

@midnight347

22 күн бұрын

A healthy 408 in a fox is quick no doubt. Could Def give alot of modified newer cars fits.

Don't play if you can't pay. All new crate, new trans, all the new extras for your new moter, 302.new lines brakes rear end. $25.000. Body and paint $7.000. I started this 3 years ago. No way I could do this today. A new fox will be ready in 2024. 86 capri 4 eye. One of a kind mods. I love what i have done so far.

@donpleis7281

6 ай бұрын

Body mods.

That's why I'm looking to do a very basic car to cruise and enjoy. It's definitely not cheap to go fast.

That red foxbody GT is clean

The honest truth. Great video!

Some of the best power you can get is done by shopping used parts whenever you can. I put together my V3 kit with TF heads, a tubular manifold, and Anderson cam, and did it fairly "cheap". Relatively speaking. The cam was new, but the major parts were used and I put down over 570whp. Granted, there were supporting mods that add up. But you don't need to spend 6k on a vortech kit, and 2.5k on heads. Look for deals, and know where to draw the line. That said, if you want the cheapest hp/$ in the game... I think that most people will agree, throw an On3 kit on whatever parts you have. Fuel it correctly, tune it correctly, and turn up the boost. You can't beat it for $ spent.

Yeah, lots of good points here. Depressing, but good points, haha. Reaching for "fast" is just a path you really just don't need to go down if you're like me, and not a racer of any kind. Even if you do build what you think should be the fastest car on the road, it isn't. And I think you've made that point before too. Just don't go out there and think you're going to surprise any GT500s, and you'll be good.

Right on Caleb…HNY brother🎉

My 1990 ford mustang lx 5.0 setup, Gt40 Explorer heads, gt40 Explorer upper and lower intake, k&n drop in air filter, 65mm throttlebody, off-road h-pipe, shorty ceramic coated headers,sub frame connectors, 3 core radiator, a/c and smog pump delete, and a Lincoln mark viii electric fan. Should get you over 300hp at the crank with mostly junkyard parts Future mods,maybe 3.55 gears Foxbody 4-LIFE

Good video.

This is exactly why I went basic with mine. Ported gt40, Cobra intake and xe270 cam. Sounds great, very fun to drive. I wasn’t willing to spend enough to make it as fast as a new mustang but man I love to drive it- everywhere

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

A 300 whp fox with gears is Def as quick as a modern stock gt. The power to weight ratio isn't far off from a stock new gt.

@Kenneth-tl3hw

9 ай бұрын

A 300whp fox isn’t running 11s 🤷🏻‍♂️

@lldjslim

9 ай бұрын

My 1990 ford mustang lx 5.0 setup, Gt40 Explorer heads, gt40 Explorer upper and lower intake, k&n drop in air filter, 65mm throttlebody, off-road h-pipe, shorty ceramic coated headers,sub frame connectors, 3 core radiator, a/c and smog pump delete, and a Lincoln mark viii electric fan. Should get you over 300hp at the crank with mostly junkyard parts Future mods,maybe 3.55 gears Foxbody 4-LIFE

@midnight347

22 күн бұрын

​@Kenneth-tl3hw what stock gt runs 11s? The s650 sure as hell don't run 11s. I've seen fbo ported short runner 456 geared 96-98 cobras touch high 11s with just over 300 rwhp and they're little heavier than a fox. I stand by my original statement. You're just as likely to go high 11s in a healthy weight reduced 300 rwhp fox with gears and driver than a bone stock newer mustang gt. The only one that can do it is 18-20 5.0 with 10 speed and it has to be in negative da to do that. None of the manuals touch 11s regardless.

Plus drive shaft systems that can handle all that horse power, and suspension also

Well, I have been planning on swapping in a fun engine once I am happy with the rest of the fox I have. I have found Blueprint engines has a 347 w/415 crank hp for $6400… long block and they will answer any question you want. Seems like a good deal to me… Edit: they also have a warranty!

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

You can get a 427 for similar money if I was gonna go pushrod I'd do a 351 based motor. You can also get a lowest mile gen 2 coyote and 6 speed trans for similar money too.

Pretty spot on.

@dougfa3515

Ай бұрын

I enjoy driving my 300 whp 87 GT with the sweet cam chop. Fun as hell but it cost me a good amount of money… right about where you said. I get a lot of complements on it. People love seeing them and hearing them. But, yeah, I’m not blowing the doors off everything in the road. LoL But I love it. Now I just need to get it repainted. Ugh.

Put some hard 225 tires and a set of gears in it it will feel fast. Just don't line up against a new minivan. A 13 second stockish foxbody is a blast. All the drag suspension increases the NVH. Added a turbo to go 12s. Just switched to E85 time to turn the boost up and get it at least in the 11s. My stockish 89 hatch with a gt40p engine and HO cam was the best all around fun to drive, race, road trip. It was not fast but it was fun. When ever my turbo notch is "finished" it will be for sale.

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

Foxes can go 13s easy with just gears. What new mini vans run 13s in the quarter? Just because they have 280 hp or 300 hp or whatever don't mean they're fast lol. The fox is way lighter and has way more torque

Friend of mine just had a 347 stroker built, parts an all, little over $10,000. And with all his modifications he’s in it for close to thirty, but the car, I would ride 2 miles down the road in it

Pick 2 of the 3 Cheap Fast Reliable

I think a 331 with low boost in the 500-540 wheel is good and can’t beat a coyote swap if pulling out all the stops

Where can i get those CLEAN Engine bay panels sides & the one over top of radiator ?

Heres another thing ppl don’t realize is the cost if they get one of their buddies to do the work for them I have a buddy who just r&r a 302 in a in a jacked up 1980 f150 .. he cleaned n painted all the stuff he had to reuse off the old motor so it wasn’t covered in oil all for less than $900 … ok so now mr customer comes up with a oil pan leak ( factory oil pan from 1980) so he decides it needs fixed but this time he wants a set of Gt40 heads with roller rockers bolted on plus a set of long tube headers … so now my buddy has gotta remove the motor put a new oil pan and gasket on it plus take the top end of the motor apart so he can install new heads plus cut the factory exhaust off and install long tube headders .. remember this is a 80 f150 with a 4 inch lift on 35 inch tires so climbing over in there to out headders on is gonna be a headache .. my buddy told him $800 ish and mr customer bout had a heart attack .. he thought that was way to expensive .. you should do a video on what you can expect to pay a buddy or a local gear head to do the work !!!

I bought a balanced 331 forged kit and it cleared everything. No notches needed. I paid $700 for my machine work. I bought my kit for 1800 bucks. I ended up with $4500 for everything in my short block including solid roller cam. Oil pan and gaskets. It was for a SEGA super stock. I had $ 3500 in the heads,intake and carb.

Doing an 'Old School' build into a 1978 Ford Fairmont Futura V8 and EVERY topic you hit is 100% Legit. Don't forget every bracing and suspension/brake mod to drive it SAFELY.😂

Your right about creating something not fun to drive, don’t make your only car a race car

Seen a guy run a 10.8 on a stock motor with ON3 Turbo, 31 spline axles, and tire.

Aint that the truth!! When people ask me my hp(600), they seem disappointed, and talk smack, those are the one who have no idea the cost. WHO dosent want 1000 hp ?! Lol. Just can’t afford it 💪💪

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

Anyone who acts like 600 hp isn't that good for a street car is just trying to sound cool. 9/10 times it's people who don't even have a car or have some stock car lol

@jeffnorton9875

2 күн бұрын

I’m the 1/10 I guess

Its always costs more then you think it will, if only i knew what i know now back when i was building my 88 notch lol.

Even tho I can afford this, I’m getting out, just not worth building Hotrod’s anymore, I’m 61 time to get out anyway lol. Now if I can actually go thru with it, I’ve spent a small fortune on car stuff in my life time, even when stuff was cheaper,

My 347 short block cost me around 2000$ all in.

That Cobra looks familiar ❤

@Joe.Lozano

9 ай бұрын

Thanks….ill be out at LMR event this year again, you going?

A good tune can cost anywhere from $500 to a $1000. Maintenance cost and time goes up. May need more cost for tuning when you find out something isn't right, and to improve on. My car made basically 500 hp and torque to the wheels on bad plugs to find out they was scortch, plugs are a simple fix but then cost more again to tune

Right up there with the "You can drop a V8 in there for $500" folks. They are LITERALLY still out there.

@midnight347

22 күн бұрын

They think a 500 dollar ls is the only expense to ls swapping one lmao. They're delusional. You can Def tell the ones who've never actually built anything.

This is a fact, but on an even heavier car with a smaller engine, my 2v P71.. Made 249rwhp before my TFS top end kit.. 60rwhp more later, i'm in debt n already used to my 309rwhp 321rwtrq a week after my Marty tune..lol I'd like me a 96-97 Merc Cougar to gut n mod, only bcuz Mustangs are a dime a dozen..lol

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

Older mustangs ain't dime a dozen anymore you don't see them in the wild that much. Those cars are cool but a decent bit heavier than a mustang too.

Built TCI transmission a.o.d 3500.00

What rims are on the red mustang?,They look like Fikse.

@Joe.Lozano

9 ай бұрын

I am the owner….yes Fikse Profil FM5 (18s)

Great video, I’ll just stick to 200 hp

Might as well go 351

Cars are like mistresses at the begining everything is fun and games , later is a mix of fun and headaches , then everything is a headache. Donne e motori, goia e dolore !

You are talking 100% facts. 300 horsepower will last you one afternoon lol.

Also, over 400 horsepower, there is one thing any reasonable smart person will have to consider, safety systems. Fire protection, roll cages ect.

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

You don't really need a cage at 400 hp even in a fox. You might sneak into the 10s with a great suspension and tire setup depends on the rules where you run

I guess mine will be staying stock 😭

Yep lol. Better to just do a 351w 408w stroker with a roller block set up with a 2 bolt main with a bottom end stud girdle and a intake valley stud girdle etc and push 600 to 800 on pump gas at the flywheel and spray a 250 shot just saying lol. I'm just talking because there's a 100 different ways to spend 10k on a drive train in a Foxbody Mustang.

6724.00 in Canadian ruples omg

You HAVE to include the cost of shipping in your expense. It’s HUGE! Like up to 50% on top of your parts cost. Especially if you’re not in the US. And you have to pay it. You can’t just go to the store to pick up. And these parts won’t just magically land on your doorstep.

Name your price. I have been looking for that NMRA hell yea I street race frame... lol

I don't know if 300hp to the wheels is not enough. I have had 200hp all the way to 600hp. The fox wheight is low i find 300hp to the wheels is the sweet spot. For having a fun weekend car 300hp is perfect. Easy way to make a fox a fun ride is simple. Gt-40 heads blower stock ho cam Done. Or the easy route is just go 351w intake heads ported carb or efi done Coyote swap sure sounds easy its not it will get out of hand very quick and $$$$ ads up. The best thing is just to look in the mirror and say ok i will never be as fast as a camry and just enjoy the chop chop.

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

You got it all wrong. If you mod a pushrod to be comparable to a coyote you're gonna have more into it than the coyote would have costed. A good dart block stroker is gonna push 10k dollars easily. That is what it's gonna take to compete with gen 2 coyotes. The coyote is also a good bit lighter with better mpg. It does make alot of sense. There is nothing wrong with a pushrod but people have this false thinking that doing a pushrod is so much cheaper. If your goal is 600+ to the tire the pushrod prob isn't gonna be cheaper.

@chrismoher5444

9 ай бұрын

@@midnight347 I'm not saying mod a pushrod to be as powerful as a coyote. I'm saying that 300hp is a honest goal that is fun and drivable. Coyote is way to much to invest into for the average owner half the fox owners I meet now of days dont even know how to turn a wrench.

Then suspension you can spend 5000 or more on suspension.

AFR heads 202s 1800.00

Knowing the limit of the stock 5.0 block is around 500hp I'd rather rebuild a 351w and do a engine swap than stroke a 302 into a 347.🎉

It's faster and cheaper to buy a gen 1 or 2 truck motor then to go full tilt on a built 347 or 408.. then you add boost and your over on what it would cost for a coyote swap.. that's why you see these bug inch Windsor builds just sitting cause nobody is paying 20k anymore for a 302 based mustang.. best thing to do is find a good roller.. there's a guy by me selling a built 408w in a very nice 82 coupe but he just can't sell it cause nobody wants a sbf anymore..I offered him 6k for the roller.. he wants 8k.. it has been 4 sale for over a year..

I think you need to add another head to the cart.

That's not included wheels tires and paint job

So from what I gathered from this video. If you're building on a budget. Start with a cam heads and intake. Glue apiece of 2x4 under the top of your throttle pedal. And for every $1000: dollars you spend. You can shave an eigth of an inch off the thickness of the 2x4 until you've reached your goals. Lol.

@punisherdiecast3966

8 ай бұрын

Or save your money for Coyote 😁 and be happier in the end!

Built 6r80 5000.00

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

T56 magnum ftw

I want a car that’s fast ass fuck I think I may just have to buy a truck With a LS for my fox

No new water pump? Suboptimal.

It’s easier to lie to yourself lol rabbit hole is deeeeep

People love to spend others only too. Gotta have AFRs, a systemax and an FTI cam. Gt40s aren't worth it. I'll stock with my slow crap for now.

I'll take all the stock302 stuff yall don't want!! 😂

85,000 I’m in on my 1997 mustang. That’s with buying the car. 1000 rwhp..

@BMGYGK77

9 ай бұрын

This is with labour. Parts maybe 40,000

You forgot a good water pump a oil pump and a better radiator.

ShP or boss block

Crate motor 408 6000.00

@adamrushka8096

9 ай бұрын

Where ate you getting a 408 crate motor for 6k ?

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

​@@adamrushka8096I seen some 427s on ebay fully built for 6400

Meanwhile you have us Pull-A-Part and Carb guys who can tune a carb laughing all the way to the bank. Priceless are inflated for sure, but they are inflated by those who honestly have no clue. Well, and this "great" economy that has been bestowed upon us smh. Great points though. It is a crazy market right now!

Do us a favor and turn the music off. Love the content though.

U forgot a oil pump

@pimpovic2

9 ай бұрын

The factory oil pump is just fine for most any engine build short of a SCCA car. You don't need a high volume pump if you're running a stock oil pan. And many deeper pans will still do fine with the stock pump as long as you keep it fed.

@rippinglipscountryboy2148

9 ай бұрын

I put new heads an cam an didn't change the oil pump an the shaft an the shaft broke so I will never do anything with out changing them 2

So what your saying is I'll save money by doing a coyote swap?? Guy math!!

5k for 60hp 😢

@pimpovic2

9 ай бұрын

You're laying the groundwork for the future, but shopping smart you can save some money.

@midnight347

9 ай бұрын

It helps you a ton down the line after boost etc. Throwing boost on a stock pushrod is not efficient and takes way more boost to even get close to what you can do with alot less boost with a solid engine setup.

Complete fuel system 1000.00 in up