This beyond Fu"ked up to do to anyone this dude needs an a$$ whoopin, but karma is coming, you are 100% correct sir

Thanks for making this video. I've been around cars, especially Mustangs all my life. I'm one of your older viewers and have seen all kinds of BS sellers out there. Got taken myself when I bought a rusted out POS 77 Datsun 280Z back in the 90's. Craigslist and Marketplace are the worst. I read some of the listings and laugh they're so bad. You're right about some modifications. I want to see receipts.

This is why the younger generation don't be respecting the older generation.

@whiteoakproud7882

10 ай бұрын

No it's not. The younger generation doesn't respect the older generation because the older generation failed to teach them.

@nissanbrown6144

10 ай бұрын

@@whiteoakproud7882 because the older generation act do what this clown did to this young man old generation aint s..t neither to some degree

@matthewvarnam4302

10 ай бұрын

​@@nissanbrown6144 The older generation has way more respect than the younger generation don't care what you say I know better I see and hear what the younger generation is doing...the younger generation are going to prison younger and younger every year..so you wrong.

@buysncharge

10 ай бұрын

​@@whiteoakproud7882we were raised by ourselves. We didn't even go inside. Blame only goes one way. Inward.

@nissanbrown6144

10 ай бұрын

@@matthewvarnam4302 nah you are wrong alot of the old generation be on some hating s..t and i see it both ways and i am a elder this right here proves my point this old head. So this car and ripped the young man off so htf you expect to be respected and you are older person .

Great advice Caleb! Totally agree

Real truth on here brother. Hate it for that guy

Why are dudes afraid to call people out in these so called blatant cases? Why rant and make a video about it if your not going to protect anyone else in the future from a dishonest seller or show the car so nobody else ends up with it?

@PowerfulRoman

10 ай бұрын

I won't be scamming if people knew my address and I get called out.

@retorq

10 ай бұрын

Agreed, basically protecting the scamming piece of sh!t.

@FoxcastMedia

10 ай бұрын

Owner’s request, which I respected

@jimkaray

10 ай бұрын

No sense in creating an audit trail to a single disgrunteled individual should the low life require a trip to the hospital under strange circumstances.

Same thing happened to me when I got my first car. Didn't know enough about them to even be thinking of buying one at the time. So much wrong with the car that a pro would've known to leave it where it was. I ended up driving almost 60 miles home with wood screws holding in the right upper torque box. Thing was a death trap and that dude knew good and well what he was selling to me. You live and learn though and by God's grace I made it home without incident.

That sucks.hate to hear someone got scammed..

Look @ the Torque boxes (rear) are the twisted up from drag racing? Look for VIN stickers on the body panels, firewall, trunk area. Inspect the uni-body for accident damage/repair. Inspect the shock towers in the engine bay. If they are rusted, be prepared to dump a ton of money into it to repair those, or just walk away from the car.

I took a pretty big risk buying my first foxbody recently. I found a 87 with a fully built 302, 72mm turbo, built C4 trans, and a bunch of other nice stuff done to the car for only 9k! I know nothing about these engines or car in general so i took the risk and bought it and its been driving great for 2 months now.

I always give a quick "guide" when asked what to look for. Rust. Floor pans, strut towers, spare tire area, hatch mount area, sun roof, and battery area. Damage. Radiator support and bay area. Look for bends, breaks, and dents that would indicate front end damage. Take a magnet and a thin cloth. Check your quarter panels for Bondo. Bondo will alter the magnets attraction strength. You can also use the tap method and listen for a deeper tone in the areas. Torque boxes for rust and stress cracks. Basically crawl all over the thing. The single most important advice I give is either try to find a good solid base roller or a factory engine car. There is far too much gray areas when dealing with engines and transmissions. Save yourself some trouble and either get a solid roller or a stock 302 and budget to rebuild. These cars are already inflated way beyond reason in price. A good solid buildable stock version should not cost 10k. I see garbage piles that are priced at 5k. People be trippin on these insane prices. I have a factory 79 V8 Cobra and even I know the prices on them are over inflated......and I WANT it to be a Barret Jackson priced car lol!

Excellent advice. I must’ve looked at 10 with ads that claimed upgrades but had zero documentation. I finally found one with an honest seller, had all paperwork and he ended up with my money. I send him pics of everything I’m doing to the car and we actually took a little joy ride.

Thank you very much for your insight...yes, KARMA is gonna bite "..." in the arse. Our deepest apology to the buyer, I hope things get better for him during this restoration.

That's why I always bring somebody who's as knowledgeable as me or knows more then me.... Because a second set of eyes and a second set of ears is better than one. That sucks that somebody willingly took dues money and scammed him without telling him what's wrong with the car.

@robertclymer6948

10 ай бұрын

I would love to start seeing these Crooks outed and made famous. Better yet, go say hello in person. Uncle Tony is always calling out these sellers on his channel but wont mention the car lots etc that are doing it. Why even bring it up Tony? You are not helping. Sometimes doing the right thing is more important then how many views you can get.

Man, I feel for this guy, and honestly, the guy who sold it needs to be called out,that p.o.s shouldn't get away with it

The same thing happen to me. I didn't know much about the 88 Notch I purchased. It happen to be a 4 cylinder car with a V8 swap that had metal shavings in the oil, a worn out tranny, worn out 90 rear end, bad ECU and a lot of other crap. Paid 11K for a car with many problems. Needless to say I went ahead and restored 100% of the car. The whole project ended up costing me over 35K.

@AwakeDude911

7 ай бұрын

why i say if you really want something get that second or thrid job and buy what you want ,if you buy a GOOD DEAL one there a reason its a GOOD DEAL ..

I got taken on the 347 thing. Didn't know until a year later when the oil pump went out. I only drove it nice. Not even bored. Completely stock bore and stroke. Had aluminum heads and mystery cam. I opted for a 351 instead.

I wish I could get you to find a decent coupe roller for me to start on. You seem like a stand up guy

That sucks! I hope we can help that young man out with some parts or cash. 🙏🏼 I would hate to get taken. 😢

So f'd up. This is the world we live in.

If you let people just talk sometimes you can learn everything you need to know without having to ask a single question.

@AwakeDude911

7 ай бұрын

yes i let them run on .walked away from alot of deal like this

I bought an 88 t-top, seller was upfront about the front of the floor pans being rotted, I saw the strut towers so that knocked the price down a bit but I was a real pain about asking for current videos of it running and current photos but he sent everything and even drove the car to meet to show it at least moved under its own power

@johngilbanni5891

9 ай бұрын

Almost the same story, down to the car…88 GT t-top. It’s been sitting at my nephews, haven’t pulled the carpet up to look, but the pans look solid from below. I did it backwards which was completely my fault, found out the miles were higher than listed after I bought it. I just figured a running, driving, manual, t-top GT was worth 5k at the very least. Older fella who thought it was a rocket lol don’t really think he was out to burn anyone.

Been burned before and it does suck. Bought a truck from a family friend and 3 days later engine blew. Then found several other things that were wrong. Spent thousands for repairs and sold it for a lot less than I had invested to just be rid of it. Complete nightmare for me but new owner got a book of receipts and documentation of all repairs. I just couldn’t enjoy it enough to keep it.

It just saddens me that there's people out there like that! I feel for the guy that got took!

The number one thing I will always say about a Fox body is this unless it is documented low mileage and come from a collector it has been beat on probably more times than you can count probably around 4 owners if your lucky and remember the odometer probably doesn't have the 1000,000 mark so always assume it has what it says plus 100,000 see proof before buying like the man said no proof dollars get lower take it or leave it. I have seen these cars going for $20K even $30K I say unless it says saleen or SVO and is documented that it is not worth it. Clean average price I say is around $12 to $18K depending on mileage.

Excellent video Caleb! I appreciate you Brother! 💯👊🏾

So damn true, take someone you trust, or do your homework, take a light, look under the car, looks at door jams there are a lot of hidden rust/rot just by looking around wheel and pulling wheel liner back, doesn't matter if it has fresh paint, it might be hiding things.

@poormansdemon3176

10 ай бұрын

Fresh paint or new paint on a fox is number one red flag to me.

I will add that I did my homework on my latest project and ended up getting something really nice for a really good price

Also fellas for the ones of us that don't know how or trust ourselves to do certain wiring or other mechanical things, that you get someone to work on these foxbodys, I recently had to pick up 1 of my foxbodys, I was screwed on work, I literally picked up my car in a huge disaster for me, nothing was finished and now I'm going to have to straighten out or find someone who can, the guy had my car 16 months with nothing but lies and basically lost his shop thru divorce, so I forcibly made a window to pick car up, so much unknown about the wiring ..

Let’s start a go fund me to help the guy out!

@robertclymer6948

10 ай бұрын

Go fund me are crooks too. I'd rather send it to Caleb and when he gets a good amount, call the young buck up and get it to him. Good Idea though and very thoughtful of you.

Should have did a common check list..check floor.check frame.check oil if possible.check how it runs..mustang check torque boxes check between front fender and door underneath where the water runs from the vent between the hood and front window..anyone else feel free to add to my list..common stuff to look for.

So much good advise. It’s sad that we have people like the tool you mentioned.

Thanks for sharing this. Anyone spending more than a couple of grand on a car HAS to get it checked out by a good, independent shop unless you have a lot of experience and know your way around cars. At that price point, a couple of hundred dollars more spent vetting that car would have saved him in the long run. Poor guy. That being said, I know you said you wouldn't reveal the source, but please do us a public service and out this predator. Imagine if it were your kid....

Also if the car is running when you arrive, something is wrong. He had to jump it, or worse, push start it. Could just be out of tune, but maybe the ring gear on the flywheel is chewed up, starter is lunched, etc. Even if its just warmed up, its suspect. If you can't cold start it, walk away.

Off topic…but does a 331 stroker need clearancing at the bottoms of the cylinders like the 347s…..im a chevy guy particularly LS’s….but recently got my 15 yr old son a ‘67 mustang coupe with the original 289…..i picked up a roller 5.0 out of 96 bronco (OJ edition) and going to build up that motor with him…just figuring out which dierection we are gonna go with the roller 302

Or you do like me and get a naked roller t-top 86 coupe from a friend and you know exactly what you have and what your getting into like a little bit of rust (floorpan) the car has, but the body is solid and already has 95 gt spindles and disc rearend with 99 gt wheels and then I can build this car exactly how I want and will keep all the receipts for the possible next owner👍🏻

Bought a fox a month ago...been in the shop ever since... through a rod through the pan second day owning...

I can hear the Donkey in the background, lol

Yep if the car is wet in the pictures run! They are covering up stuff like paint rust clear coating! Same thing if the tires and engine are all shiny with wet tire shine! Run

Love the videos as always. Sucks when people get taken. Just fyi though Yukon makes 4.11 for an 8.8. LMR sells it. Item #LRS-4209FRH-K

Always take somebody with you who nows about cars.

Great informative video unfortunately for sad story. I’ve bought all my mustangs and a t bird off Facebook and Craig’s list, but I had to look at a lot to get the ones I have. Ask for fresh new pictures of stuff that’s not posted, if they are ask for a live one. Most of the time they can be pretty quick if it’s theirs. I also let them know this isn’t our first, husbands a mechanic and we restore them. That helps people know we have an idea of what we’re looking at. Maybe you should do one for buying cars off a website and show some ads as well.

Well said. Happens to the best of us. Shitty way to learn a lesson.

You can get a 4.10 gear for a 8.8" thiugh. 4.11 no, but one digit could be a mistake. Best advice i can give is if you don't knoe what your doing bring someone with another set of eyes. Eyes on the car is best thing can do. Rust, top strut mounts, lower rad supports, boot floor, rear frame rails, torque boxes...you know the score. And panel gaps is my pet go to. Dont be blinged by fresh paint on a turd. If the panels, and multiple panels, door lines, bonnet lines dont line up that's red red red. Id rather a dented up workhorse that's honest with factory panel gaps and no rust rot out. Good luck peeps

Sad truth that there are crappy dishonest people out there. Common sense goes a long ways also. Very good points and set of rules for anyone when buying any car, house or large item in general. Hopefully the young guy gets his muscle car and can move on from this disaster.

It happened to me for 5 grand. End up selling the motor and seats 😢

Great advice brother, Thank you for the info, God bless.

So….. did he get pitched on a list of mods that were not there or was the car hiding some other major damage? What’s the story?

Crazy because prices on these cars are dumb high even on the shit boxes

Say his name Someone needs to take care of him Old school way

Good point it’s for everything around u not only on cars market place has a million scammers

I purchased a 90 mustang GT off of eBay! Sight unseen and had it shipped to me across country and the car was exactly as described! But I'll never do it again!!

Well said I had a friend once that had drove 2 hours to buy this car that was on craigslist engine was supposedly has a fresh rebuild with new bearing rings etc anyway the guy was asking 6k but he talked him down to 5k brought the car home drove all good but the next morning while leaving home shot a rod through the block he was devastated

I got screwed years back in 2018 on a gen 1 coyote truck motor. Paid 1800$ for it came with wire harness and pcm. Next thing you know I opened up the motor and engine is everywhere. Engine haven’t been running since 2014 plus it was abused by owner. It was a shop that sold it to me.

10k for a foxbody that's needs restoration is WAYYYYY overpriced

Thanks for looking out for the younger Gen.

Buyer beware, anything over $3500 you better be aware.

Can you tell what was wrong with the car or what was misrepresented in this specific deal?

Also take the car to a Goodyear shop and have a bumper to bumper analysis done, and if they don't want that to happen, WALK AWAY

Either paper work/ receipts or if they did work themselves at least some verification videos/photos of the car and work being done

That’s why I tell the truth about every car I have for sale. I’ve sat on cars far longer than I care to, as a result. However, I sleep better at night.

The fact there was a donkey in the back ground while he was talking about the seller… kinda fitting.

#6 When a seller has a proper car for a proper price he doesn't have to sell you anything..... He throws the keys at you and lets you poke around it all you want, and doesn't have a long winded story for any suspicious thing you find. All the best cars I ever bought the seller didn't have overly wordy used car salesman responses and let me take all the time needed to inspect the vehicle. And particularly didn't care if I bought it or not, because he knew someone lucky was going to get it. Now I'm not saying a tight lipped person that "doesn't know anything" about the car, because those sellers know it's got issues but hold the truth. Omission of info is the same as lying. Happy hunting!

Back in 2003 I bought a 90 50gt for 4300 it was 100 percent stock besides a new clutch 65.000 miles why the prices so damn high now

Thanx Bro!

It happened to me too luckily it wasn’t much what I lost still sucks

Pictures words & paperwork when they don’t add up go together or set off your spiddey sense just politely walk away. Is that red vert with the white doors for sale ? I’m interested.

I always love," a/c works, just need x,y,z to blow cold."

I bet ive saved ppl a total of a million dollars by looking at a add for them on marketplace …. For instance … blown head gasket means .. its ben drove with water in the oil pan or it was putting combustion in the cooling system possibly needs a complete engine and maybe radiator and or heater core .. besides that does the transmission work properly does it have any electrical gremlins does the rearend sing a tune going down the road .. i tell em if they cant drive em home or if they arent looking for a project leave it there

Great video and bringing a knowledgeable friend everyone should do. I get buyers fogginess even knowing what to look for lol. Bring someone along!!!

I've been at this for about 30 years and my rule of thumb when l look at any vehicle is modifications,most modifications done to these cars devalue them,an original foxbody will always be more valuable and desirable than any modified car

Thank you for this video , it helps me alot .

Funny you say that about wet pictures. Every thing I sell on marketplace I clean as best I can. I take pictures after it’s clean but I always wait until it’s dry. Why? Because they usually look better wet and I’m not trying to set unrealistic expectations. They’re gonna see it when they get there and I don’t want to waste anyone’s time.

same thing happened to me about 12 years ago but I believe the same thing karma will catch up

misspellings in an ad is an automatic nope for me. i mean, these are words we should all know y'all...

All good advice. Applies to ALL used car deals.

I understand not going thru every little issue but major issues need to be disclosed do good get good do bad get bad

Maybe this buyer should make KZread videos to expose & show what hidden damage and crazy repairs and camouflage paint to cover up body damage! Like the old saying goes put lip stick on a pig

I been eyeing this red foxbody hatchback but it’s been sitting on market for over a week …

Correct, Trust but Verify. So many Scammers these days hard to even Trust. Well given Advice. I hate it for this Young Guy. Like you Said KARMA is a B*tch.

@robertclymer6948

10 ай бұрын

In today's world, you Cannot trust ANYONE! Sad but true.

Get his name and make this guy famous!!

Truth

Another reason this evil person needs to be exposed so the next person will not get burned 🔥!!!!

what i call a LIFE LESSION !!! \ you want to play you got to pay if your dumb on stuff ..my 88 ttop cost me 12k and never seen it again along with my money or the friend doing the body work/paint when he moved 1 summer and took it with him along with 5 other project cars from other people...NOW NO MONEY LEAVES MY HAND TILL IM 100% sure it is what it is !

Where does this kid live? If he’s near Houston I would help him out.

Bought a car on ebay tht way ad pic was clean Sn95 Cobra when I showed up car looked like it was in a Sand storm. So price went way down bought tires for it and drove it home. Head Turner now. Sorry for the Guy who got took.

Great video Caleb.. it wasn't my money and it still pisses me off..

Your number one thing should have been do not be too over Happy giggly excited Act like you bought 50 of them don't think or be afraid to say no do not be afraid to walk away because there is one out there for 10 k that you can by and buy and you're gonna be like oh my God this thing is beautiful

This is a ruddy world we live in.

When my brother was looking for a trans am we went and looked at probably 12 cars and maybe 3 of them was what they said they were. Some where wayyyyy off. The one he got was better than the guy said and needed a small amount of work

This isn't new. For all time, people have been selling vehicles that have major issues. Used car lots are the worst. People don't just trade in their vehicle if nothing is wrong with it. I'd say 90% of people trade in because of an issue, and they'd rather just get another vehicle. It's also hard for the honest guy to pull what a good car is worth because so many people screw others. I've walked away from so many vehicles that people claim all it needs is "***." If it's that simple, they'd fix it. I haven't found a good deal lately at all. Marketplace, cl, all full of scams. It's bad when you ask a good price for a good car, and everyone thinks something is wrong. "Ran when parked." These ads drive me nuts. If it ran when parked, why was it parked? Trans go out? Overheating? I'm just tired of it all. The whole system is a scam now.

What goes around comes around.

The problem today is people want a mint condition car for $10k😂. The market has gone up.

You didn’t even tell us what exactly happened for him to get screwed……. Just “a bunch of stuff the car didn’t have”

I got got on a coyote motor off Facebook. Dude name is Justin white he from Texas but moved to Frederick Maryland which out for him. I bought the motor which was suppose to be gen 3 motor but turnt out to be a gen 1 motor with gen 3 heads and oil pan. I paided 2600

Just needs a fuel pump! Friend got taken on eBay. Car looked decent close enough to go look at it. No ac compressor but had cam and ported heads new clutch 3.73’s etc. Only real stuff was shorties stock H with cats removed and turndowns. Pump didn’t run because it was straight wired to ignition switch to pump relay. They pulled relay so the knocking engine couldn’t be heard! Lucky he only paid $3k.

Seller isnt too bright, does he not realize that guy could (and should) show up at his house in the middle of the night and even things up?

If I'm paying 10k for a foxbody it better already be restored. You can buy a mint for 10.

Caleb, I get the subtle rage over deceptive people. The best you can do is lots of research and/or bring an expert along to see the car before purchase. The silver lining is that the buyer will have to do the hard work of fixing the car...and will learn a ton in the process. It sucks but anything can be fixed.

If the car isn't at his home or property. Red flag