Which version do you prefer?. The Consul or Dr. Wallace Breen? The true citizen likes and shares the video for engagement!

@IAhmadGT

Жыл бұрын

yay Im a true citizen!

@VindensSaga

Жыл бұрын

The Consul. As much as I liked and enjoyed the retail I think the beta was superior and would have been too.

@youliver9700

Жыл бұрын

I like Wallace Breen's voice actor more then the consul but I prefer the Consul for the darker tone

@Sapphiregamer8605

Жыл бұрын

Breen

@robottoucaninc.6752

Жыл бұрын

the consul is far more menacing

personally, I'd like to see a full rundown of the beta story, even if its fractured and scattered. would make for interesting visual mock-ups and interpretations

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

A full rundown is on the list of videos to make. The small issue I have is that there were so many different variations of the story. I'll see what I can do though ☺

@dermerchify

Жыл бұрын

@@Skyrionn thanks btw you are such a great channel and endlessly entertaining

@EmperorHeadass

Жыл бұрын

I feel like the fractured and scattered nature of the early storyline would perfectly add to the "creepy factor" of the HL franchise and a potential story breakdown video. It'd leave the viewer uncertain of what events would truly transpire, leaving us to create our own positive or - most likely - negative scenarios. Considering that the beta was so much darker... It's easy to believe that there truly is no true victory for humanity over the combine, especially in a more grim scenario. The idea that humanity is doomed is actually my favourite theme in HL2. It's the idea of a "hopeful hell" where lost souls fight a losing battle only to ultimately fall. But they tried and that's all that matters in the end.

@nada6991

Жыл бұрын

@@Skyrionn man idc if it’s 3 or however long it would be the coolest video ever

@dsemirugosus

Жыл бұрын

If only they don't get stuck in development hell

Despite BETA being fractured, you really made it sound like complete and it didn't feel like anything vital from the lore was missing

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

It took a while to put the script together for this one because I wanted everything connected and grounded in the HL2 reality. Thanks for noticing.

I really like the consul he feels more evil and cunning than Breen, I don't know why but Breen always looked kinda goofy to me and he had a sort of "kind grandpa" face that even made me feel sad for taking him down while with the consul I probably would've loved every second of it.

@umamifan

Жыл бұрын

The consul just look so menacing. He really got that "idgaf what happens, the means justifies the ends" kind of vibe to him. Dr. Breen is just comical, but realistic. Breen's "kind" looks and low voice helped him earn the title of administrator. Sure, he was at the right place at the right time to get that kind of luxury, but his charisma definitely helped to at least some extent. But the consul... Definitely seems like something that would be implemented if the Combine decided to be incredibly serious and liked the consul due to similarities in coldheartedness. Right now, it just feels like the Combine treats Earth as a little "side project" of theirs. If both the Xen wildlife and Combine were just instantly teleported out of the solar system, I doubt they would care to even go back for Earth. I think that's how irrelevant it is to them. They just stick around because of status quo.

@aquatic4760

Жыл бұрын

Consul just seems like a really generic evil character tbh

@AJ-po6up

Жыл бұрын

@@umamifan Yeah the Consul feels like he would go more in line with what the Combine wants for their group, the real motive of Breen/Consul was after all to become part of the Combine officially and join them and he was even willing to go through genetic modification to do it, Breen doesn't really fit into the Combine imo but the evil Consul certainly does, he's ruthless, only cares about himself and his experiments and he's the kind of guy that you wouldn't even doubt concocting the plan of attracting the Combine to Earth on purpose as part of a scheme to become part of them and the de-facto ruler of Earth and to obtain their knowledge, Breen instead looks like a normal scientist old guy that was caught in all of this by accident.

@sharky1583

Жыл бұрын

The Consul is literally a nazi, the Breen has the kind grandpa look, and he literally looks like my 71-year old uncle.

@user-tzzglsstle585e38

Жыл бұрын

@@AJ-po6up I like Breen better because of this, he doesn't look stereotypically evil and yeah; he looks like some scientist that got caught up in this, well because that's what literally happened. I like that his design has more nuance to it like actual humanity rather than being "evil dictator-looking guy doing evil things".

'Beta Consul' has the same ring to it as 'Better Call Saul'

@primkup

7 ай бұрын

"Hi, citizen! Did you know that you don't have rights? Combine says you don't, and so do I!"

Ah, yes, my favourite Breaking Bad spin-off show, Beta Consul

@imembridibuddha

Жыл бұрын

Oh for crying out loud. lol

@Edward-it9cr

Жыл бұрын

that's a groaner right there

I adore these Beta lore videos, please keep up the amazing work Skyrionn

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

There's more to come!

@scarletcrusader5431

Жыл бұрын

@@Skyrionn Looking forward to them!

Breen's motivations are endlessly fascinating to me. My interpretation is that Breen made some sort of deal with the G-Man to create the resonance cascade, and bring the Combine to earth. He was rewarded with power and knowledge, but ultimately G-Man collected his debt using Gordon in HL2. I think Breen was ignorant and deluded about the Combine, and what they were truly doing to Humanity. I think he genuinely believed they were the next step for Humanity, if even just as a coping mechanism. Breen stuck me as a megalomaniacal narcissist, who ultimately couldn't cope with the reality that he sold out his species, so he denied reality entirely.

Your use of "The True Citizen..." had "all hail hypnotoad" vibes :D

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

I guess it kinda did! Did it work?

@Still-Standard-2004

5 ай бұрын

love your stuff man@@Skyrionn

The Consul is like a more menacing, darker and mysterious character than Breen. Though, we have a lot hints of what the intentions of Breen were but c'mon I'd have loved to see the Consul in his mutated form. It would have been epic. Anyhow, fascinating lore. 👍

This really reminds me of the film equilibrium. Great video as always!

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

I'll have to look the film up!

@arandomuser1723

Жыл бұрын

@@nikolametal2001 2002

Can't wait for a full release of a fanmade beta HL2. Definitely would be worth playing

@samiamtheman7379

Жыл бұрын

Honestly, outside of from some cut enemies, some different characters, and darker look to it, it's not that much different from what we got except for the fact that humanity isn't being slowly genocided by the Combine. At least, not to the extent we see in the released game.

@operationd--msday

Жыл бұрын

@@samiamtheman7379 so darker look but lighter tone in a way?

@XENON2028

Жыл бұрын

well you can just download the leaked beta, compile the WC mappack, put the maps in and play. it is very buggy though and you will have to make use of the console A LOT to get around

@clonetrooper75

Жыл бұрын

theres several mods that aim to do this, raising the bar: redux seems to be our best bet so far

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@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

The best words.

@paw5409

Жыл бұрын

@@Skyrionn I love your content man

@ericdellenback6047

Жыл бұрын

@@Skyrionn The true citizen is already subscribed to Skyrionn.

@WorstLandsknechtEver

Жыл бұрын

I did as a true Citizen would do

@ShubhangSaurav

Жыл бұрын

The true citizen has already complied and has subscribed 🫡

Me explaining all the half life 2 lore to my Friends from memory even though they are going to forget it the next day:

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What I would like to see as not many on the Half-Life fan pages talk about are the voice actors who plays each of the characters like Dr. Wallace Breen voice by the late Robert Culp who I grew up watching him on films and TV shows from the 70s and 80s.

@maxstirnersego

Жыл бұрын

That reminds me. A while back I actually emailed Mark Laidlaw about who the voice for the consul was either himself or Kelly Bailey

I like to believe that HL2 beta happens in a more advanced time, when the combine had a lot of time to settle and Gordon Freeman appeared a couple more decades later, hence the darker tone, and heavier surveillance. As to the working children and the suppression field, I think that in beta, there wouldn't be a suppression field at all, they would use the children to do forced work, now that humanity is more controlled in this reality

Beta is more atmospheric than what we got during release.

@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009

Жыл бұрын

The game gets +5 atmospheres for every child slave it has

@lowrezbs8882

Жыл бұрын

@@plaguedoctorjamespainshe6009 exactly

Gordon having to actually talk to the Consul sounds really cursed.

@RandomNoNamePT

5 ай бұрын

From what we know in the beta, Gordon would've been MUCH more expressive, even mentioning him being "In shock" when he saw The Consul on the slideshow Eli Maxwell was showing him.

@RandomNoNamePT

5 ай бұрын

From what we know in the beta, Gordon would've been MUCH more expressive, even mentioning him being "In shock" when he saw The Consul on the slideshow Eli Maxwell was showing him.

9:12 that caught me off guard tho, jesus, the way you transit it into your own words legit make me thought the video is sentient

Love the beta content!!! Another great video sir

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it!

I like to think that Breen spoke with an advisor and they showed the true force of the combine empire. I think what conquered earth was their scouts basically. Think about what they send - mostly simple alien animals that have been grafted with technology. I think what they sent through the portal was basically cannon fodder to see what was on the other side and earth was so weak it only needed the threat of the main force to subside

As per usual amazing work. I'm watching it for the 4th time since it posted since I keep realizing I missed something in a previous watch! I can not imagine the work you must put into this!

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Wow, four watches! That's commitment. Thanks for watching the videos. I do appreciate it.

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I always love your content! I wish I was part of the team working on anything Half Life related. Keep it up! 🤘🏻

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching! Hopefully we get something half life related soon

Anyone else out there always felt that the Consul was modelled after Ralph Fiennes?

Great work. I wait alot for your half life lores. Thanks

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching them!

Thanks for the continued great videos my friend! Also an update my Son Charlie was born two days ago!

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Congratulations Cody! Honestly so happy for you! Thanks for watching as always

@codymcgrath2.3bviews3secon7

Жыл бұрын

@@Skyrionn Thanks my friend and thanks for the great content as always!

Although Beta had some cool things, I'm still grateful that HL2 end up as released version.

@businessburd2071

Жыл бұрын

I 100% agree, I think people get too caught up in the concept art and forget the amount of good in Half Life 2

He really does comes across more as a an piwefull figure and not just the combines lap dog/mouth piece like Breen does. I half life 2, but I really am curious the what if that the beta would have been. Not to mention the f-ing Cremator is so F-ING COOL. I still really hope it gets officially added as an enemy to a game.

@RandomNoNamePT

5 ай бұрын

The Cremator was cut from Half-Life Alyx too, guess we won't see them until they're cut content again in Half-Life Barney in 4025

Despite being a year late, this video is my favorite on the platform.

The True Citizen knows you touch up on the lore of our benefactors with your standard issued Skyrionn broadcast as you eat your rations.

Thanks for this Video. I have been fascinated by the Half-Life 2 Beta for a while. I find in interesting of what was cut and what was left in. I personally loved the idea of the Consul. He just feels more terrifying than what we got in the final product in the form of Dr. Wallace Breen. I wish a few more ideas were left in from the Beta. Like the Manhack Arcade, Air Exchange, Wastelands, and more of a Industrial version of City 17. These are the reasons why I would have preferred the 1999 - 2002 versions of Half-Life 2. I love this video man. 10 Beta points out of 10 Beta Points would be a True Citizen again. Beta approved.

Incredible video, I just love listening to your voice and your contents.

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much 😀

High quality content. Good job, you are amazing.

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks! Super kind of you to say!

please never stop making half-life 2 and portal lore videos 🙏

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@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

*Additional rations granted*

"The true citizen subscribes to Skyrionn" Yes my lord.

good work man! i like your beta videos

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! There's more to come!

The Consul was perfect for the oppressive atmosphere of the beta, he fit into his world in every possible way.

It would be cool if we get a version of half life 2 based on the beta. Good video skyrionn.

Very Cool video my dude!

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

another great video!!

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Chuck!

Meaby the idea of Consul and his character would return and be expanded in future? Maybe like Boris in HDTF who was Breen's right hand and administrator of City 9?

Banger video as always

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate it

i cant wach this video yet but it looks sooooooooooooooooooo cool wow i cant wait keep up the good work

I found this character way more interesting and more fitting to the Half-Life universe than Breen,even when he speaks,he speak like an actual dictator.

@SalesmanWave

Жыл бұрын

Wow, what a unique take, definitely haven't heard this a million times before.

@randomperson-uj4bp

8 ай бұрын

What?

A consul is actually a title for a Roman leader, consuls would always work in pairs, and both shared equal power and ruled over Rome together. They were democratically elected by a senate. In times of war the consuls would transfer their power to a dictator, to lead for (if I am correct) a maximum of 6 months. If the dictator was able to solve the problem the consuls could not the dictator would step down and a new set of consuls would be elected to rule over Rome again. However if they do not solve the problem a new dictator is elected for another 6 months. So the title of "Consul" not only implies that there is another second Consul, but there could possibly even be a dictator that could be placed into power by the combine. And not just that, since the existence of both 2 consuls and a dictator that could be placed into power implies that there is an entire senate that the combine has at it's disposal.

1000th Dark and Gritty I've heard from a Half-Life 2 Beta video

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

meme

Just finished the cremator vid.🔥🔥 Had to come watch this after you mentioned it.

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Welcome welcome. Explore the whole channel and stay. There's more to come too!

love your videos

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

The delve into the HL2 Beta is as addicting as it is depressing. Depressing, not in terms of the story itself, but the fact that I end up liking what we never got more and more. I know Valve changed a ton of stuff because of leaks, but it feels like they did it at the detriment of their own creation. Not everything in the Beta was superior, but it really feels like a majority of it was, the Consul included.

@InvictusMatrix

Жыл бұрын

Concepts will always look better than the finished product, it happens with just about every game.

@ShadowSumac

8 ай бұрын

It wasn't changed because of leaks.

The true citizen picks up that damn can

@Skyrionn

4 ай бұрын

100%

The consul looks like Patrick Stewart lmao 🤣

In HL3 we have a Dune crossover when Sandworm Consul speaks to the Combine to make the Freeman un-free

i like beta version due the feeling of actually dealing with a force from a different dimension, it feels more realistic in that, to the combine we are so beneath them in in terms of technology and possibly culture in their eyes, that they view us as sentient livestock waiting to be used for a purpose, much like how humans view cattle or chickens, could kill them all or domesticate them and keep a steady supply manpower while you drain other resources then once drained move on to next dimension

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11:40 I guess this evolved into Breen becoming an advisor after the main game

7:17 HE SAID IT! HE SAID THE THING

bro i was watching a video about hl2 beta glad that i have more content about the beta

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

There's more to come!

14:35 The consul looks really... dont have words to explain what im thinking

PSA: If you wanna play a banger mod that takes place in a HL2: Beta-like setting, "Raising the Bar: Redux mod" is a fantastic mod in development thats currently playable up to Ravenholm

is the name a reference to the character from the Hyperion Cantos series of books by the same name? The two characters have a bit similarities, considering they both act as turncoats to an invading, "alien" force at some point

I have that beta map of the old citadel on gmod, fkn love it

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

It's a great map. I love the skyboxes.

The true Citizen conserves precious Skyrionn Videos.

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

*Additional Rations Granted.*

I havent watched much of your videos but considering there are about three unique half life betas (2001, 2002, 2003) which one do you follow? 2001 and 2003 are miles apart and 2002 is sort of a combination of the two that misses the mark on some of the most appealing story pieces and themes found in 2001. An example would be things like city 17 in 2001 and 2002, both share the combine arcade, both share the consul, both share the air exchange plot etc etc, but the city has been sort of lowered and missing its skyscrapers by 2002, more similar to 2003 and release half life 2, the construction site is gone and the canals have been moved to still be inside the city, in fact I think the huge wall present in 2001 c17 that the canals took place outside of is completely gone. Do you just kind of mix all three together or whats the deal

Love ur vids

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

wow patrick stewart really took the 7 hour war into his own hands

Very good video

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

No way better call Saul

what's that first map that appears on the start of the video? really looks dark and griddy with the consulcast screen

Sounds like he was in control of the Combine rather than the other way around like Breen was.

I so wish we got a darker HL2

love ur videos

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Imagine the last remaining combines in our world in current HL2 met with a alternate reality of this Iteration of HL2 heh.

If the strider on the frame saw itself there it’ll be like “hey thats me!” 1:20

I would love to see Breen and The Consul interact, both are similar but very different in key factors, a debate between the two would have been very intellectually engaging.

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

I'd have loved to see something like that.

8:16 Are you implying that his *lower half* would appear somewhere else? 0_o

Wish we got the wasteland in half life 2 was kept love t explore the ruins of the wasteland.

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

The wasteland, although bleak, looked great. I think I agree with you.

@mysterythekitsune2988

Жыл бұрын

@@Skyrionn Heck yeah high way 17 showed the idea but not to the fullest would love to explore areas of the dry out ocean. especially approaching the nova prospect and Depot facilities would had been cool if we had to go into the depot air firstwhile exploring the wasteland and beached ships and submarines and dead fish, then nova prospect.

Consul looks like the guy from the menu

The Consul looks like a cross between Ralph Fiennes and Kevin Spacey. Do what you want with this information.

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

I can't unsee it

@evgeniptolemy5570

Жыл бұрын

@@Skyrionn 😂

oh we will we watching, iconic ✨

The true citizen washes behind his testicles

i finnaly found the name of one of the songs in the background its called triage at dawn!

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

I put all of the songs I use in the description near the bottom haha! I hope that helps.

Maybe Valve took an inspiration from the 1984 book.

Better call Saul

Are you going to do a video on the leaked (2015) last version of HL3 story idea/speculation? I like the first half of the story with apiture (still needed a little work) but after that , it feels like a repeat of HL2 story but not as good I’m glad HL:A came out instead

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

You mean Epistle 3? I covered it around a year ago :)

@ray8413

Жыл бұрын

@@SkyrionnNo not Epstile 3 , Go watch Tyler McVicker video on it. This is the last attempted version of HL3(2015 version) before they just scrapped it and moved to Hl:A

I think a sense of mystery could've made him go from a unlikable villan you forget about 2 weeks later to someone you want to know more about find his real name who is he

The true citizen always follow the rules of being said

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4:08 LENIN?!

Ight all I wanna know how did he get these cinematic shots on Gmod (or whatever that is)

'The true citizen subscribes to skyrionn' lol 😆

So wait, when you encountered the Consul in the citadel, in one version of the story (concept art where Helena holds Alyx at gunpoint) he was still human at that point, and in another version of the story he was already a robot without arms in that machine (concept art at 12:10)?

@breadtoast1036

Жыл бұрын

nice job repeating what he said in video in question form

@zorgapb4691

Жыл бұрын

@@breadtoast1036 I didn't repeat, i asked a question because i did not understand

now we gonna down the rabbithole real deep

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

This is gonna be a huge rabbithole

I realize in the background of the consul speeches you can hear someone translating the speeches into Bulgarian.

"beta consul" sounds like a better call saul reference

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

It's all I hear now

Who would've thought, One scientist with a crowbar would spell doom for high tech aliens? Wrong man at the right place, I suppose.

@Skyrionn

Жыл бұрын

He sold out his own race sadly

Additional food rations please.

I almost laughed at you acknowledging the fact that the Half-Life 2 beta became a meme for being dark and gritty.

@kronos_1337.

9 ай бұрын

dark and griddy