The Trojan War - History vs. Myth - Extra History - Part 1

📜 The Trojan War: History vs. Myth - On Extra Mythology we've been covering the myth of the Trojan War recorded in the Iliad, but that's all it is right? There's no way a massive war like that was actually fought. Well... yes and no. The Trojan War might not have unfolded the way Homer's muses sing with the Trojan Horse, Achilles, Agamemnon or Hector, BUT there was a real, historical Troy! How exactly did we find it? That's a story in and of itself and it all begins with a man named Schliemann.
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00:00 The Trojan War Myth
04:27 Uncovering Historical Troy
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  • @jaegermonster7520
    @jaegermonster75203 жыл бұрын

    My ancient history professor in college was trained as an archaeologist, and he *hated* Schliemann. Mentioning Schliemann was a great way to elicit a 10-minute diatribe about the damage and outright looting done by early archaeologists.

  • @dr.vikyll7466

    @dr.vikyll7466

    3 жыл бұрын

    Tuts tomb intensifies.

  • @rustomkanishka

    @rustomkanishka

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@dr.vikyll7466 Brush, no. Dynamite, Hell yes!

  • @MasterShake9000

    @MasterShake9000

    3 жыл бұрын

    That dynamite story reminded me of early paleontologists and the stories of how they’d destroy bones and bone fields to keep them out of rival paleontologists’ hands.

  • @TSmith-yy3cc

    @TSmith-yy3cc

    3 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy passionate teachers and their indignant rage at the stupidity of the past.

  • @polaris30000

    @polaris30000

    3 жыл бұрын

    I had a prof who would go apoplectic if Schliemann was mentioned and one guy jokingly mentioned how much faster explosives would make excavation and was booted from the classroom.

  • @DomenBremecXCVI
    @DomenBremecXCVI3 жыл бұрын

    "Please don't destroy this historical site." "Dynamite just do that."

  • @anoninunen

    @anoninunen

    3 жыл бұрын

    "We found Troy! It's here... and there, and there, and there. I think that's the royal jewels in the tree."

  • @TheMotlias
    @TheMotlias3 жыл бұрын

    I literally recoiled in horror when the word "Dynamite" was used... that whole part was painful

  • @alanahi1212

    @alanahi1212

    3 жыл бұрын

    I covered my mouth with both hands and stared at the screen.

  • @AnonYmous-ob7py

    @AnonYmous-ob7py

    3 жыл бұрын

    Same, even tho I have heard this story before

  • @scarredchild

    @scarredchild

    3 жыл бұрын

    Five minutes later and my heart is just slowing down. 😱

  • @pandathecrusader5658

    @pandathecrusader5658

    3 жыл бұрын

    Me being really into archaeology that part hurt my soul.

  • @davidschaftenaar6530

    @davidschaftenaar6530

    3 жыл бұрын

    When it was mentioned the site had multiple levels, I thought to myself: This guy isn't gonna blast through that top layer right? And he did it. I can't believe it.

  • @hehe3301
    @hehe33013 жыл бұрын

    "comrade and partner" is a funny way to say boyfriend

  • @doggylover7564

    @doggylover7564

    3 жыл бұрын

    hehe

  • @pepsi-cola2791

    @pepsi-cola2791

    3 жыл бұрын

    hehe

  • @Unknownfrencghost

    @Unknownfrencghost

    3 жыл бұрын

    hehe

  • @wasneeplus

    @wasneeplus

    3 жыл бұрын

    hehe

  • @noscopedjfk920

    @noscopedjfk920

    3 жыл бұрын

    hehe

  • @thevoidlookspretty7079
    @thevoidlookspretty70793 жыл бұрын

    I love Odysseus landing on his shield. Starting his career off as a clever sh*t.

  • @rebelinfarnape4030

    @rebelinfarnape4030

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ye

  • @asiblingproduction

    @asiblingproduction

    3 жыл бұрын

    Hes such an asshole, lol i love him.

  • @ArkadiBolschek

    @ArkadiBolschek

    3 жыл бұрын

    Oh, he had a whole reputation as a sneaky smart-ass even before the Trojan war began.

  • @thundercrash4775

    @thundercrash4775

    3 жыл бұрын

    That's why he was Athena's favorite.

  • @krankarvolund7771

    @krankarvolund7771

    3 жыл бұрын

    I've always been told that he deviated the curse by jumping on his shield... but they never mention that was because the second man would die XD I thought it was something like he landed on his shield, so he did not disembark on the beach ^^'

  • @karialy1479
    @karialy14793 жыл бұрын

    I’m feeling indescribable emotions the moment you said he literally blew up parts of a historical site.

  • @crzylkfx

    @crzylkfx

    3 жыл бұрын

    There was also a paleontologist that blew up a dinosaur skeleton just so his rival couldn't get to it first. Archeology and Paleontology were a bit...less refined im the 1800's

  • @petergray2712

    @petergray2712

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@crzylkfx That and the fact that these were new disciplines. They were like the YT comment sections in 2017, everyone's trying to be the first.

  • @FumbleSquid

    @FumbleSquid

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@crzylkfx Holyshit, that's fucked up. Imagine being so petty that you would deprive the world of a scientific find because of a dick measuring contest. Then again we almost blew up the world several times for the same reason.

  • @supergkop5678

    @supergkop5678

    3 жыл бұрын

    The sheer anger that filled me with is ungodly and I want to punch someone.

  • @faceoctopus4571

    @faceoctopus4571

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@crzylkfx How was he able to blow up the dinosaur skeleton without being there?

  • @Jasta85
    @Jasta853 жыл бұрын

    Wife - "Why did you buy land in Indiana?" Schlimman - "It's a surprise, I'll tell you in three months."

  • @orangedalmatian

    @orangedalmatian

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mickey Mouse: It's a surprise tool that will help us later

  • @lyreparadox

    @lyreparadox

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's the only reason to buy land in Indiana.

  • @seanlambert-knight4735

    @seanlambert-knight4735

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lyre Paradox hater gonna hate

  • @jonnunn4196

    @jonnunn4196

    3 жыл бұрын

    A few decades later, Husband - I have a business trip in Reno.

  • @ChrisS-jd2us
    @ChrisS-jd2us3 жыл бұрын

    Nothing is more perfectly embodied by the phrase, “So anyway, I started blasting.”

  • @mrbyzantine0528

    @mrbyzantine0528

    3 жыл бұрын

    It's so accurate it hurts!

  • @AtheistIII
    @AtheistIII3 жыл бұрын

    I just love how around half the ideas Odysseus comes up with are quite clever ploys, and the other half are just straight up dick moves

  • @luke20picart1

    @luke20picart1

    3 жыл бұрын

    Just like Jim's pranks on Dwight!

  • @giannispsillias7964

    @giannispsillias7964

    3 жыл бұрын

    You just summed up ancient greece in one sentence

  • @MasterShake9000

    @MasterShake9000

    3 жыл бұрын

    It reminds me of how the ancient Greeks idolized him as clever and cunning, while the Romans despised him as a cowardly schemer. (Admittedly the Romans were also biased as the Romans believed they were the descendants of refugees from Troy).

  • @thevioletskull8158

    @thevioletskull8158

    3 жыл бұрын

    So the conniving likeable type?

  • @GaldirEonai

    @GaldirEonai

    3 жыл бұрын

    The old trickster archetype.

  • @mattmarino4033
    @mattmarino40333 жыл бұрын

    I love how they connected the topics from extra mythology to extra history. Another thing that makes this channel great

  • @jpaysgamer8877

    @jpaysgamer8877

    3 жыл бұрын

    I can’t tell what’s better though. Is it the mythology of this fight? Or is it the history behind the real battle?

  • @Friendlyneighborhoodguy

    @Friendlyneighborhoodguy

    3 жыл бұрын

    Matthew Marino you are so right

  • @TheKalihiMan

    @TheKalihiMan

    3 жыл бұрын

    “Myths are not stories that are untrue. Rather they are tales that don’t fit neatly into the historical record, which serve as the foundation for a culture.”

  • @Friendlyneighborhoodguy

    @Friendlyneighborhoodguy

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@TheKalihiMan you are right for example maybe there was a guy called Gilgamesh but maybe he wasn't part god.

  • @krankarvolund7771

    @krankarvolund7771

    3 жыл бұрын

    Honestly, I thought it would be Extr Mythology that would be sponsorized XD

  • @Real7419
    @Real74193 жыл бұрын

    Schlimman: The risk I took was calculated, but man, I'm bad at math

  • @Christopher20073

    @Christopher20073

    9 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @Lakhshamana
    @Lakhshamana3 жыл бұрын

    Achilles: "I was a warrior like you, then I took an arrow to the heel."

  • @user-ge5vf5md7r

    @user-ge5vf5md7r

    Ай бұрын

    Ha.Skyrim reference,huh?

  • @deskouk1773
    @deskouk17733 жыл бұрын

    Some things to note about the Iliad: 1) Achilles' invulnerability is never mentioned. The idea that Achilles in invulnerable unless struck at his heel was an invention of the author of the Achilleid (a book written almost 1000 years after the Iliad). Achilles is simply said to be an amazing fighter, so fast, that nobody can touch him. 2) The Trojans stripped Patroclus' body from his armor and Hector promised half of the war's spoils to whoever brings the body of Patroclus to the Trojans. That's why Achilles strips Hector and drags him from his chariot. As a revenge to what Hector wanted to do to Patroclus and the dishonor of taking his armor. 3) Hector is afraid of fighting Achilles. When he leaves the walls of Troy and sees Achilles, he is struck by fear and starts running. Achilles has to chase Hector three times around the walls of Troy before they fight. 4)The death of Achilles is not mentioned in the Iliad. The Iliad ends with the body of Hector returned to the Trojans. 5) Quintus Smyrnaeus is the one who continued Homer's story, writing about Achilles' death and the destruction of Troy. His work (Posthomerica) was written in the 4th century AD, more than 1000 years after Homer's Iliad (around 800 BC). Posthomerica had a very similar style to Homer that people accept it as a continuation. 6) In the Posthomerica Achilles was ambushed and tricked by Polyxena (daughter of Priam, whom Achilles grew to like), Polyxena was later sacrificed by Achilles' son, Neoptolemus. 7)When Neoptolemus enters Troy, he kills Priam, throws Hector's son (Astyanax) from the walls of Troy and takes Hector's wife as his concubine. He then returns to Greece where he becomes the founder of the Molossian kingdom. 8) Pyrrhus (the first Greek to fight the Romans and the man we get the term Pyrrhic Victory from) claimed descent from Achilles, as he was the descendant and king of the Molossian Kingdom of Epirus. 9) When Alexander the Great visits Troy, he makes sacrifices to Achilles, he organizes games and he supposedly finds and takes Achilles' shield for himself. Alexander, also, claimed to be a descendant of Achilles, as his mother was a Molossian Greek princess.

  • @jorgelotr3752

    @jorgelotr3752

    3 жыл бұрын

    There was a book in the Homeriads that told how the war ended. It's currently lost, like most of thosee books (like the Little Illiad or the Argonautica), which is why we have to resort to the Posthomerica and the Aeneid, written by romans.

  • @vesnanuspahic7510

    @vesnanuspahic7510

    2 жыл бұрын

    City name was Ilion not Troy.Ilion ,ILI-ON means OR -HIM ILI -JAD means OR -PAIN ODISSEYA -ODI- SE-JA means I'm living Troy - number 3 or three 😁

  • @mxe2693

    @mxe2693

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@vesnanuspahic7510 balkan slav say something of worth challenge (Impossible)

  • @yn4Lif3

    @yn4Lif3

    2 жыл бұрын

    And if historians say "The power of friendship" is the true reason for Achilles' rage instead of the very real romance with Patroclus; then I'm going to treat them like hector with the chariot.

  • @vesnanuspahic7510

    @vesnanuspahic7510

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mxe2693 we are not slav’s 60% at list 😁

  • @cadeathtv
    @cadeathtv3 жыл бұрын

    Trojan Malware inspiration

  • @Panda_Roll
    @Panda_Roll3 жыл бұрын

    "Hey guys! I found a historical site so old it slipped into mythology. A whole city with intact buildings and delicate pottery. What do I do?" Acme: Hold my Slapstick.

  • @justinweber4977

    @justinweber4977

    3 жыл бұрын

    Even Wile E. Coyote would facepalm over that.

  • @Hypastpist
    @Hypastpist3 жыл бұрын

    "how do we extract history faster?" * pulls out dynamite * "fracking"

  • @Luke_Danger
    @Luke_Danger3 жыл бұрын

    "Yes, a great wooden horse!" "I don't understand, will it fight?" [Facepalm]

  • @Newidhan

    @Newidhan

    3 жыл бұрын

    Age of mythology Ajax is best ajax. "Surrender!" Ajax fires a ballista and kills the soldier next to him. "We surrender! Move a little closer!" Freegin love that game

  • @poop696969poop

    @poop696969poop

    3 жыл бұрын

    I am so here for AoM references

  • @AnubhavB00B5

    @AnubhavB00B5

    3 жыл бұрын

    PROSTAGMA

  • @HaroldoPinheiro-OK

    @HaroldoPinheiro-OK

    3 жыл бұрын

    A mecha trojan horse? :P

  • @franciscomuro8427
    @franciscomuro84273 жыл бұрын

    As a developing archaeologicist and anthropologist this was an important step towards developing the field and helping establish what we do perform in the field. With that said I cringe everytime I hear of all the history that was lost, all the tales of the past that we can never recover with destruction like this.

  • @BUMMY105
    @BUMMY1053 жыл бұрын

    Video: "Some German guy uses TNT to excavate the site where people think the City of Troy lies" Me, an enthusiast for History, Archaeology, and Forensics: " HE *W H A T* "

  • @alexandercolefield9523
    @alexandercolefield95233 жыл бұрын

    Modern Greeks: Wait, the Achaeans were the Sea Peoples of the Bronze Age collapse Ramses III: *draws bow* always have been

  • @fuzzyhair321

    @fuzzyhair321

    3 жыл бұрын

    Shit, this makes to much sense

  • @rodrigorafael.9645

    @rodrigorafael.9645

    3 жыл бұрын

    Their bronze plate armor are super Achean style too.

  • @mrbyzantine0528

    @mrbyzantine0528

    3 жыл бұрын

    *When you like the idea of Classical Greece being the result of Achaeans migrating from mainland Europe to the Penninsula and adopting the oral histories of the myceeneans and minoans* *Realise this means the Achaeans and Philistines were likely in contact at some point* *Ramses III knocks on door*

  • @ryangarcia6475
    @ryangarcia64753 жыл бұрын

    The disgusting look on my face when i herd TNT ....

  • @sharilshahed6106

    @sharilshahed6106

    3 жыл бұрын

    lmao same

  • @sriharshacv7760

    @sriharshacv7760

    3 жыл бұрын

    ISIS did the same to Palmyra temples which are even older than Greek ones. Pure ...

  • @fireblast3001

    @fireblast3001

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sriharshacv7760 oh God, don't remind me. Hearing what they did to that city still brings me down.

  • @florinaslan5482

    @florinaslan5482

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dynamite is not acceptable in modern archaeology

  • @magithegreat
    @magithegreat3 жыл бұрын

    Bros I bet Dovahatty's gonna have a fun time watching this

  • @lerafty5116

    @lerafty5116

    3 жыл бұрын

    I mean obviously Aeneas single-handedly killed all the grekoids and then went on to found Rome. Don't believe all the made up stuff they tell you.

  • @byzantineboi8345

    @byzantineboi8345

    3 жыл бұрын

    AENEAS CHADUS MAXIMUS

  • @doggylover7564

    @doggylover7564

    3 жыл бұрын

    Re

  • @byzantineboi8345

    @byzantineboi8345

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m actually surprised EC shares viewers with Dovah they strike me as very opposite though I could say that about basically ever other popular history channel

  • @seancampbell6292

    @seancampbell6292

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@byzantineboi8345 dovah is joke history though, it's quite obvious that the bias he expresses in his vids is ironic.

  • @tsiagian6610
    @tsiagian66103 жыл бұрын

    "An arrow to the heel." (Any historian who read the mythological version of the battle of Troy)

  • @sagemoriyama1372

    @sagemoriyama1372

    3 жыл бұрын

    "I used to be an adventurer like you, until I took an arrow to the heel." I'm not sorry.

  • @MazaAzi

    @MazaAzi

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@sagemoriyama1372 You should be! "I used to be an *Near Unkillable Hero* like you, until I took an arrow to the heel."

  • @jm8361

    @jm8361

    3 жыл бұрын

    Based on some versions of the story the description makes it sounds like he was killed by a poisoned arrow to the heel. Poisoned arrows being more common then previously believed

  • @sagemoriyama1372

    @sagemoriyama1372

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@MazaAzi yeah that works better

  • @minnumseerrund

    @minnumseerrund

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jm8361 In that version it's an arrow poisoned/infected and guided by Apollon, who had beef with Achilleus cause he raped Apollon's oracle - as I remember

  • @Nielzabub
    @Nielzabub3 жыл бұрын

    I learned about Schliemann when I took an intro to anthropology class. The irony is that the archaeologist who produced the greatest evidence for that site being historic Troy, had no interest in proving the myth. He was just there to study the town as an important trading site. Schliemann did eventually realize his mistake when he started excavating in Sparta (due to him being banned from reentering Turkey) and found materials similar to objects he had found in layers he had recklessly blown through.

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican3 жыл бұрын

    Building a horse to attack a city sounds like something the Turkmen president would do

  • @yousefghuniem5575

    @yousefghuniem5575

    3 жыл бұрын

    But he is probably too busy falling off his horses and writing fuck poems about it

  • @KanaiIle

    @KanaiIle

    3 жыл бұрын

    I got that refernce. Thanks John Oliver

  • @sabotabby3372

    @sabotabby3372

    3 жыл бұрын

    JFK tried but that didn't work out well

  • @phoenixshadow6633

    @phoenixshadow6633

    3 жыл бұрын

    Are we sure he isn't riding around a place called the Door to Hell.

  • @Taistelukalkkuna

    @Taistelukalkkuna

    3 жыл бұрын

    If we build this giant badger.....

  • @chrisjeon326
    @chrisjeon3263 жыл бұрын

    Who else immediately thought that this video was sponsored by Troy Total War

  • @grahampaget4110

    @grahampaget4110

    3 жыл бұрын

    I’m sure everyone doesn’t really like Troy total war.

  • @dashiellgillingham4579

    @dashiellgillingham4579

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Graham Paget It seems to be a fully functional game at launch, which is a low bar, but the Total War games failed to reach it for most of their releases over the last decade. It has an interesting subject matter, and seems to have finally properly balanced the broken supermen with the rest of the armies. I could buy that the people who claim to like it do. They haven’t gotten something like it in several decades.

  • @chrisjeon326

    @chrisjeon326

    3 жыл бұрын

    True

  • @ethanrepublic4554

    @ethanrepublic4554

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was

  • @prophetofthe20th45

    @prophetofthe20th45

    3 жыл бұрын

    Yay

  • @BrazenBard
    @BrazenBard3 жыл бұрын

    So, "Illiad" apparently translates as "The Story of Illium", the Greek name for Troy... But since we're not calling it Illium, we should really start referring to the book as "Troy Story". :P (And thank you, internet, for that joke.)

  • @th3radlad_727

    @th3radlad_727

    3 жыл бұрын

    Brazen Bard I learnt that in English lol we reading the odyssey

  • @BrazenBard

    @BrazenBard

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@th3radlad_727 Ah, yes, the original story of a man too proud to ask for directions for ten years. ;)

  • @Headhunter97

    @Headhunter97

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ilion was the greek name for it. Ilium is the latinized/roman name version ;)

  • @shortlivedglory3314
    @shortlivedglory3314 Жыл бұрын

    Let's be crystal clear here. Schliemann was NOT an archaeologist. He was a looter. His careless methods and later behavior betray this fact.

  • @Ethan-cz8xq
    @Ethan-cz8xq3 жыл бұрын

    0:48 Odysseus: I'm gonna do what's called a pro gamer move.

  • @Bokkievanhall
    @Bokkievanhall3 жыл бұрын

    Uploaded 10 seconds ago, last time I was this early Kronos was still the primary god.

  • @RicardoMil0s
    @RicardoMil0s3 жыл бұрын

    I'm so early that I'm still watching the Extra Mythology video about the Iliad

  • @mjbull5156

    @mjbull5156

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was wondering why Agamemnon's beard was not white and Patroclus did not have one at all.

  • @lagunasjrpedro
    @lagunasjrpedro3 жыл бұрын

    I remember watching the lies episode to the Bronze Age collapse and you guys mentioned wanting to do an episode like this,,, it warms my heart that the arc is complete :’)

  • @player1_fanatic
    @player1_fanatic3 жыл бұрын

    I really like how the art style from the History series slightly differs from the Mythology series.

  • @mansamusa1743
    @mansamusa17433 жыл бұрын

    One thing I remember reading was that some of the characters may have actually been real. Paris was sometimes called "Alexandros"(protector of men), and the Hittites speak of an "Alexandu" fighting a war with the Wilusans(thought to be the kingdom controlling historical Troy). The king of Wilusa, according to the same letters, was Piyama-Radu. Of course this would mean basically the entire plot of the Iliad would be wrong, since if the two men were in fact Paris and Priam respectively, that would mean Paris was fighting Priam for the Wilusan throne. Other than this I don't recall the letters(addressed between Hittite nobility), ever mentioning who was involved in the war, but it's likely some Greeks were involved since Alexandu is obviously the Hittite transliteration of Alexandros, and obviously the Wilusans were involved since it was over the Wilusan throne. But the Hittite description of events is so vague it's really impossible to tell if Alexandu and Piyama-Radu are who some historians think they are, or if it's just a coincidence. Quite fascinating either way.

  • @mccoolguy1973
    @mccoolguy19733 жыл бұрын

    As a history nerd, a part of me died when I heard that Schliemann exploded a part of Troy.

  • @umbraghosts9043

    @umbraghosts9043

    3 жыл бұрын

    He did what???????????????????????????????????

  • @mewe1717
    @mewe17172 жыл бұрын

    "He blew up the sight." No! "Troy was in the fifth level so he did more damage to the city than the Greeks." Heh, Achilles would be proud and NOOOOOOOOOOOO

  • @Yourmom-et1xo
    @Yourmom-et1xo3 жыл бұрын

    Stop watching this there’s a red spy in the base

  • @Ray-xq3cx

    @Ray-xq3cx

    3 жыл бұрын

    The Red Spy is in the Base?!

  • @huggebugg3694

    @huggebugg3694

    3 жыл бұрын

    A little help 'ere?

  • @fabianlenk2017

    @fabianlenk2017

    3 жыл бұрын

    "Let's go, let's go!" - INCOMING!

  • @leonardorivelorivelo9253

    @leonardorivelorivelo9253

    3 жыл бұрын

    aaah ahhh Hey Its still here

  • @scorpion4074

    @scorpion4074

    3 жыл бұрын

    alright then

  • @Vanic00
    @Vanic003 жыл бұрын

    I am SO psyched about this new series, I absolutely love the bronze age. An age when it seems that human civilization was emerging from what seems like a mythical past. It reminds me of how the time of King Arthur seems like a time when magic and fantasy are fading away, but little remnants remain here and there. Keep up the good work folks, we love your stories!!

  • @PHRCpvh
    @PHRCpvh3 жыл бұрын

    *Schliemann* : I had to explode two whole cities, but finally, I found Troy! *Someone* : Actually, Troy was that first city we found and blew up. *Schliemann* : What? *Seinfeld theme plays*

  • @PHRCpvh
    @PHRCpvh3 жыл бұрын

    Everyone: You struggled to find this ancient lost city, why you want to blow it up now? Schliemann: My goals are beyond your understanding.

  • @Chirpysemperboy
    @Chirpysemperboy3 жыл бұрын

    I can imagine a group of archeologists going "we need to get to Troy at the bottom most layer." and Schliemann comming in with a a few hundred cases of TNT going "I'm about to do, what the people in the archeological business call, a pro gamer move."

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte71983 жыл бұрын

    “I used to be an adventurer like you... until I took an arrow to the heel.”

  • @THESP-rz3hg
    @THESP-rz3hg3 жыл бұрын

    5:20 "Most importantly, he was rich" You can stop the sentence there.

  • @vaclavmiller8032
    @vaclavmiller80323 жыл бұрын

    2:00 Just a note - it's explicitly stated in the text of the Iliad that Patroclus is older than Achilles. Great video anyway. Love you guys! :)

  • @slwrabbits

    @slwrabbits

    3 ай бұрын

    Never knew it said!

  • @tehzhixiang9452
    @tehzhixiang94523 жыл бұрын

    There are actually a few theory of the Trojan Horse. One theory is the horse actually a seige engine another theory is it could have been a ship with the warriors hidden inside as Phoenician merchant ships are said to have been decorated by a horse head which are called hippos by the Greeks. It's also noted that ship are once called sea horses in the Odyssey. Another theory is the trojan horse myth is a metaphor for an earthquake have damaged the walls enough for the greeks to enter Troy and the greek god of earthquake and creator of horses is none other than Poseidon. He also controls the sea but I think everyone know it right?(sorry if I misspelled anything English is not my main language)(and if I get anything wrong I'm sorry I'm not an archeologist)

  • @AmirGM
    @AmirGM3 жыл бұрын

    I love this combo of extra history and extra mythology. Please try and do this again if you can!

  • @bigsneak4601
    @bigsneak46013 жыл бұрын

    Really excited for this guys, your content just keeps getting better.

  • @stemill1569
    @stemill15693 жыл бұрын

    Damn, this is soo good. I never read the Iliad but all the details that are left out of movies...completly change the story of the characters. I rely loved the detailes to Hector

  • @matthew7755
    @matthew77553 жыл бұрын

    This sounds like an amazing series. Can´t wait for more fantastic videos!

  • @calhoonwilliams1113
    @calhoonwilliams11133 жыл бұрын

    Im glad you guys are doing adds that actually pertain to your channel

  • @vizthex
    @vizthex3 жыл бұрын

    ah, a return to the origins of Extra History - a game sponsoring them.

  • @brendanrisney2449
    @brendanrisney24493 жыл бұрын

    Love how different the art styles are between series, all the while retaining the same general look.

  • @magnemerstrand2289
    @magnemerstrand22893 жыл бұрын

    I started watching you guys on the Total War Rome and now were at Total War Tro I am stoked!

  • @eyebook8887
    @eyebook88873 жыл бұрын

    "Of course, I don't destroy Troy my self. That would be hilarious. I'm letting dynamite to do that job"

  • @ritaDas-xl4kz
    @ritaDas-xl4kz3 жыл бұрын

    Could you guys make a series about birodino or waterloo(about napoleonic wars) its a great time period of history also a very colorful one.

  • @theresahall1591

    @theresahall1591

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or how troy led to rome. I heard some people who survived the war founded it but not much more than that.

  • @carlosmedina1281

    @carlosmedina1281

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@theresahall1591 Well in the Aenid, Aeneus flees Troy and eventually arrives in Italy and marries into the locals. His descendants are Romulus and Remus the founders of Rome. It's basically Roman fanfiction to justify their conquest of Greece.

  • @TheCreepypro
    @TheCreepypro3 жыл бұрын

    nice to finally hear how Troy was found can't wait for that second part

  • @HistoryMonarch1999
    @HistoryMonarch19993 жыл бұрын

    Since rome 2, total war loved sponsoring your channel for their new games and it’s always fun to learn

  • @DamienElMaskador
    @DamienElMaskador3 жыл бұрын

    I have never would have thought that Extra Mythogies LIES would be a thing :P but I liked it a lot...thank you

  • @zackakai5173
    @zackakai5173 Жыл бұрын

    The dynamite anecdote is one of those things that genuinely makes me wonder if the average IQ was about 50 points lower a few centuries ago. A toddler could explain to why blowing up a site would result in the site being blown up.

  • @joevahle2321
    @joevahle23213 жыл бұрын

    Can I just say how much I love the ending music :D

  • @Omar2788
    @Omar27883 жыл бұрын

    you're a legend! keep creating amazing content!!

  • @allenwhite7947
    @allenwhite79473 жыл бұрын

    Omg, I love the horses in your animations.

  • @havel4385
    @havel43853 жыл бұрын

    in an alternate universe: hector accidentally stabs achilles in the heel. also, the second part of this episode is like a tragedy.

  • @mastermavrick
    @mastermavrick3 жыл бұрын

    Perfect sponsor series after you guys just finishing the mythology series of this war.

  • @sandejunior
    @sandejunior3 жыл бұрын

    Man i love this show and voice-acting.

  • @danielkaptijn858
    @danielkaptijn8583 жыл бұрын

    Can you imagine if instead of those meh 1 minute videos of some of the main characters of Troy, CA had paid extra credits to do a summary of the story like the first 4 and a half minutes of this video and made footage to go with it. I think that would have been awesome. With that being said, I love extra history and am very much looking forward to the rest of this series :)

  • @tigerstorm3477
    @tigerstorm34773 жыл бұрын

    It's cool to get a historical view of this war in Extra History and a mythological view of it in Extra Mythology

  • @russmoore5564
    @russmoore55643 жыл бұрын

    I've been watching for quite a while now and I don't usually comment but I love the show. Keep it up

  • @Costin_Gaming
    @Costin_Gaming3 жыл бұрын

    "Blowing the living daylight out of the site with TNT" The sound you are hearing is the collective horror of every historian.

  • @shawnheatherly
    @shawnheatherly3 жыл бұрын

    This Schlimman dude sounds actually insane. I cannot imagine spending so much of my life trying to find this lost city, and then after finally finding some evidence decide digging is too slow and that it's time to use dynamite.

  • @superlive98

    @superlive98

    3 жыл бұрын

    Troy was only the FIRST lost city he found. He next crossed over to Greece and excavated Mycenae (or not).

  • @ireallyhatemakingupnamesfo1758
    @ireallyhatemakingupnamesfo17583 жыл бұрын

    WHAT??? Please do more of these mythology history paired series!!

  • @OttomanDrifter91
    @OttomanDrifter913 жыл бұрын

    3D artist working on Troy excavation here! Great video simply explaining Schliemann's story without bias! Many historians resent Schliemann for not being a scholar archeologist and some others simply for his 'methods', however him doing all this has kickstarted one of the worlds oldest archeological sites (both in terms of findings age and excavation's age) and revealed that the ctiy had 9 layers going back beyond 1000 bc! Keep up the great work and stay curious!

  • @mace4033
    @mace40333 жыл бұрын

    Hello Anthro/Archaeology student here. I love that you guys are doing a video on Schliemann, or as my professor likes to refer to him "He-who-must-not-be-named". That man was a glorified looter & not only wrecked the ruins of Hisarlik, but also the Mycenean citadel, the Frankish tower of the Acropolis, and so much more. My favorite story by far though is how he dressed his wife up in the gold they recovered from Hisarlik, and she oftentimes went out wearing them just to rub it in people's faces, because, of course they'd do that with priceless jewelry. It's Schliemann.

  • @alansmith8893
    @alansmith88933 жыл бұрын

    The horse sticking its tongue out all the time is my favorite part.

  • @USBearForce
    @USBearForce3 жыл бұрын

    For a more in-depth look at the subject, Michael Wood made a great documentary series back in the 80’s called “In Search of the Trojan War”. I think he occasionally tries a little too hard to liken the Trojan War to the Cold War tensions of his own time, but the series is still a gold mine of information and it’s always enjoyable to watch Michael Wood barely contain his urge to completely geek out.

  • @onlookerofthings6029
    @onlookerofthings60293 жыл бұрын

    YES! I've been so excited for this to be cornered!

  • @deltaanimation5802
    @deltaanimation58023 жыл бұрын

    Can’t wait for part 2

  • @jaredlosier7688
    @jaredlosier76883 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I took a course about this exact subject in University. Amazing stuff and fun to read about!

  • @kkritodono2157
    @kkritodono21573 жыл бұрын

    I cant wait for the second episode and the troy total war

  • @user-ju7te6qx2p
    @user-ju7te6qx2p6 ай бұрын

    3:31 Hector: You just got HECTORED!!!!!!

  • @totalmadnesman
    @totalmadnesman3 жыл бұрын

    I am getting Rome 2 and first Extra History Vibes from that. Man the first episodes were a LOOONG time ago ;(

  • @DarkTider
    @DarkTider3 жыл бұрын

    Oh dear, I don't think I've ever been laughing this much during an extra history episode! XD

  • @Spedjarhead
    @Spedjarhead3 жыл бұрын

    Just in case you not heard it later I love you guys and your channel.

  • @elcactus4058
    @elcactus40583 жыл бұрын

    You guys should do the pastry war or the great emu war

  • @tammyt3434
    @tammyt34343 жыл бұрын

    Dynamite archaeology. I want to cry.

  • @DragonFae16
    @DragonFae163 жыл бұрын

    I'm pretty sure Hector's speech before his fight with Achilles were added into the tale later. Because if you're facing an enemy on the battlefield, they aren't just going to stand there while you make a grand speech. The best you'd get is being able to shout a few words while the distance between the two of you is closed.

  • @soiko1784
    @soiko17843 жыл бұрын

    Nice I've just started reading into the Ilias

  • @aniruddhxie2k215
    @aniruddhxie2k2153 жыл бұрын

    Fun Fact - Achilles Heels is a term used in modern English which means vulnerable point. Achilles was a great warrior in Trojan war because when he was born, his mother dipped him in the mythical river stynx, but she was holding him from his heels so all of his body part became invincible but his heels were still vulnerable and he was killed because a spear pierced his heels

  • @benemuel3916
    @benemuel39163 жыл бұрын

    Doing this right after the Extra Mythology Illiad one? Genius.

  • @adamcarter5254
    @adamcarter52543 жыл бұрын

    This is such delicate work we should ensure to take all the time possible to ensure it's safe No dynamite boom boom time

  • @Henning-nq2xm
    @Henning-nq2xm3 жыл бұрын

    I think your friend has mentioned something similar... and since you can't see me, I'm rolling my eyes... Great way to recapture on your last series :)

  • @rc59191
    @rc591913 жыл бұрын

    That Troy fall of a city show has to be one of the biggest jokes ever.

  • @Luthies
    @Luthies3 жыл бұрын

    It's quite possible something along the lines of the horse trick happened. Trickery after all was always the best way to breach a fortress.

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un3 жыл бұрын

    EC: One of the great leaps forward in archaeology Mao Zedong: Sounds familiar

  • @a.h.tvideomapping4293

    @a.h.tvideomapping4293

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dear Leader your supremacy over the world has made your nation leap more towards greatness then America will ever have

  • @captainrex7266
    @captainrex72663 жыл бұрын

    You sould do a German war of unification series I know you did Otto von Bismarck but it be cool to learn about the leaders and major battles more

  • @nickmitchell9269
    @nickmitchell92693 жыл бұрын

    Odissius landing on his shield has to be the biggest troll in since "no one"

  • @amagentieman2106
    @amagentieman21063 жыл бұрын

    Keep up your good work I love ur history channel even my whole family were historians Lol

  • @TransSappho
    @TransSappho3 жыл бұрын

    I’m guessing this is probably gonna be in the next video, but it’s worth noting that there are contemporaneous Hittite and Lucian records that attest to a war between the Achaeans and the allies of Troy, a Trojan king named Piyama-Radu(possibly Priam) and another Trojan king named Aleksandu(Alexandros, aka Paris). In other words, there is a fair bit of evidence which attests something fairly close to the Trojan war

  • @Numba003
    @Numba0033 жыл бұрын

    Well, what a series of events that was. I’m looking forward to the next video on the topic! Stay well out there everybody, and Jesus Christ be with you friends.😊

  • @shadda
    @shadda3 жыл бұрын

    Hey, in your next video, do you think you could go into the phenomenon connected to phrases like "the wine dark sea", where we've noticed that in ancient descriptions, descriptors for colors like blue and green almost never exist, weirdly as if they didn't have words for them?