The Strange New Worlds Explored in TOS
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In a previous video I attempted to map the route of James T. Kirk's Enterprise in Star Trek: The Original Series. Today I continue our journey by mapping the Enterprise's route in seasons 2 and 3!
*NOTE: The location of FGC-892 and the M-class planet from "By Any Other Name" can be resolved on this map from Star Trek Maps: www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars...
Big thanks to @Geovideo333 for providing that resource! (And helping me find the real location of Omicron Delta from season 1)
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- CHAPTERS -
00:00 Intro
01:09 Mapping Season 2
11:30 Mapping Season 3
21:16 Outro
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*NOTE: The location of FGC-892 and the M-class planet from "By Any Other Name" can be resolved on this map from Star Trek Maps: www.cygnus-x1.net/links/lcars/blueprints/startrek-maps/0004.jpg Big thanks to @Geovideo333 for providing that resource! (And helping me find the real location of Omicron Delta from season 1)! Become a patron at www.patreon.com/orangeriver or a member by clicking the "Join" button on my channel page to download a 16k render of the map I made for this series!
@beepboop204
Жыл бұрын
i support u all the way :)
@Doctor_Eightball
Жыл бұрын
Please continue with TAS ... you're onto a legendary series here.
@michaelmachiavelli
Жыл бұрын
I would love you to keep going with this. The movies, then TNG, and ESPECIALLY a deep dive into the Dominion war would be amazing!!!!
You know when you read a fantasy book and they have a map in the front, and throughout the book you're just flipping back and forth trying to figure out where the characters are? This is that, on klingon steroids
@bethanygee6939
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that follows. I've done that since I read LOTR as a kid and then graduated to Trek.
@shaindaman13
Жыл бұрын
No. Few of us know that. Few of us have obtained that level of Geekdom because we have in mind the Fiction aspect of the Science Fiction genre.
@deadend1041
Жыл бұрын
@@bethanygee6939 I actually had to break out the map and show where everyone was going in Lord of the Rings to get the message across of what a miracle it was that the movie worked out the way it did.
@liwojenkins
Жыл бұрын
@@shaindaman13 Normies tend to geek out all the time on false information, they just call it news instead of fiction. Unfortunately most of them wouldn't be able to find anything on the map of the planet thy actually live on.
@mikebell2112
Жыл бұрын
If I see a map at the front of a book, I make another selection.
Just for sheer originality and creativity on this video, you deserve every view that you get.
@geoffreygriffin4807
Жыл бұрын
Yep.He's putting out original content.
@L33Reacts
Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Can I get you a Gorn Burrito to go?
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
Thank you James!
I forgot how charming TOS is. There's something special about the show that kept bringing smiles to my face when you brought up the episodes.
It would be neat to see this for other series, especially Voyager. The Deadly Years rapid aging was not an experiment gone wrong, but radiation from a comet.
@amehak1922
Жыл бұрын
The book Star Trek star charts already shows the voyager's (and the NX Enterprise's) routes.
@theicmn
Жыл бұрын
I want to see a map of Deep Space 9, just sitting there for 7 years.
@michaelmachiavelli
Жыл бұрын
@@theicmnYou forget the Dominion War. You could do a whole series on the battles and territory exchanges.
@theicmn
Жыл бұрын
@@michaelmachiavelli No, that would be a map from missions of the Defiant and other ships. I want to see see DS9 sit in one spot for a couple years, move to cover the wormhole and sit there till the show ends.
The Scalosians didn't have to kidnap Kirk as breeding stock. They could just have had someone buy him a drink, admire his ship, need help in his general vicinity, involve him in a fight....
@rayvenkman2087
2 ай бұрын
Or ask for a sperm donation. I don’t see how a sophisticated alien race would not know such a simple process.
This is the level of sheer nerdiness and attention to detail I've come to expect of you. Well done, sir.
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
Thanks David!
Where no Cartographer has gone before. Great hard hitting content as always Tyler.
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@chrissonofpear1384
Жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver Really good work here, overall! I'd be interested to see some TNG worlds handled. Or maybe the New Frontier novels? (Some fans put their Sector 221-G near to the Typhon Expanse, as I recall) As for Daran II, it's placed in the novel Ex Machina, by Christopher L. Bennett, far on the other side of Romulan space, and practically almost to Beta Stromgen, for that matter. Part of the Lantaru sector, that Voyager once alluded to (in 'The Omega Conspiracy' I believe) I've also been trying to partially sort out the Sector system, which is, not to put too fine a point on it, a major headache at times. Generally each sector has two, three, four or five digits, but presumably they are usually a short-hand for the five digit one. Ones near Earth and the core Federation tend to begin with 211**, a few with 22***, and some around the far end of Romulan space may begin with 23***. Sectors far to the 'north' end tend to be lower numbers, below 20000. Conversely, Beta Stromgren is placed in Sector 25434, but the Mutara sector is supposedly Sector 25712, and far to the rimward end of Klingon space. Mind you, notes in Memory Alpha are very erratic, concerning details for that sector, however you locate it. Anyway, very impressed!
The route of the original Enterprise is a question I’ve never had, and now that it’s been answered, I can say that there’s a lot of zig-zagging throughout the galaxy, and a lot of downtime between some planets.
I feel like the Vulcans (given their central location to the TOS misadventures) could have spared the crew from a lot of misery. Especially odd that they wouldn't warn them of super powerful local entities to avoid. Jus sayin....
@deadend1041
Жыл бұрын
I always thought the Vulcans were just the most oblivious aliens in star trek. I figured they pay attention to absolutely nothing and notice almost nothing they didn't even know the romulans existed, even though they're the same race with a shared history.
What an endeavor! Thank you so much for doing this! It would be massively larger of a project, but I would love to see TNG maps like this. I do wish we could see what the course was of the TNG crew, but I doubt that project will ever happen. 7 years of start charts would be a tough sell. Thank you again, Tyler!❤
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed the video! I'm already planning on making TNG map videos, but yeah it's gonna be a time commitment! Lol. Will probably be awhile.
@davisre1982
Жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver that's awesome!!! Best of luck with the project. 😀
I really hope you add the path of the Enterprise during the TOS movies and really every series eventually. DS9 will prove interesting, and Voyager’ll need so many separate insets. Enterprise would be particularly interesting to overlay onto the TOS map.
This is amazing. I actually used to sit at an old drafting desk when I was 8-9 years old and not only draw out my own deck plans, but maps. I even used the "map" from the TOS NES game and put it on my chart.
"Lord, Garth!" :) It's really something to have put all this effort and time into creating these maps; they really help alot and explain more.
Never knew this was even possible thinking some systems were fictional with TOS. Impressive work!
Regardless of any issues or questions of accuracy, I really enjoy these episodes. Thank you for indulging this map-loving nerd lol. God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)
@Numba003
Жыл бұрын
@@subraxas I'm happy to be here. This has become one of my favorite channels.
BRAIN AND BRAIN, WHAT IS BRAIN? Classic.
@lancesmith359
Жыл бұрын
Ay the question for 99% of Americans
First Junkball with the Jenolan, then We Travel By Night with a Phase 2 Enterprise Video, next you with the Enterprise route for seasons 2 and 3, today is a good day for Trek Content
I absolutely love this idea and I'm SO EXCITED that this is a multi episode project.
Years from now you'll look back on this project and say "Wow, that was worth it, but it sucked how much time I had to put in to it." When I first attempted to do this it was the early 80's and Star Trek Maps was all we had and , at that time, what we thought was all we needed. Naive. hahaha. We were using pins in the wall with strings attached (actually flouresenct pink yarn) . Hail to the digital world !!!. However, it became apparent to us, even then, that what we needed was a 3D representation because, after all, space is in 3D, and even that is up for debate. Very well done. The old Trekkers are still watching and glad to find those that still 'keep the faith'. Peace, and long life.
Another banger map video! Hopefully you continue to do this and your videos will be used for a star chart book that allows for people to make Star Trek stories that are more accurate
I hope you do this for the other series as well. All of them. I love this.
13:27 "that's her. She's the one! What have you done with SPOCKS BRAIN!?!?!"
Thank you for going through with the map of Enterprise's trek.
I'm not a massive Trek fan, but your breakdowns and takes are comprehensive, accurate and produced very well which keeps me coming back to learn about the franchise. I think I only disliked what I perceived as intersectional politics in your prime directive video but I watched it all and it was good. Interesting vid though, please keep up the good work.
A red shirt. Tyler´s living his life on the fastlane.
I always found it odd that the Federation would have that seperate area ‘behind’ Klingon and Romulan space. Seems like it’d be fairly easy for either of those to cut it off from the rest of the Federation.
@captainufo4587
Жыл бұрын
You're thinking 2D. Space is 3D. It's entirely possible that the Federation goes below the Klingon and/or Romulan Empire or vice versa.
@mb2000
Жыл бұрын
@@captainufo4587 I get that space doesn’t look like the map in the video, maybe there’s a lot of Federation space above and below, but seems like it wouldn’t be that hard for the Romulans/Klingons to block access by going up or down into whatever Federation space passes them?
@captainufo4587
Жыл бұрын
@@mb2000 How do you do that? There's no limit to up in space. Nor down. Even considering the barrier and that the galaxy is much more wider than it's thick, there's quite a lo of thickness to deal with. If they can't blockade horizontally, they can't blockade vertically either.
@mb2000
Жыл бұрын
@@captainufo4587 I don’t know, that’s why I wonder these things.
@davidseligman6445
Жыл бұрын
Probably how Russia and Canada look at Alaska.
Great job - as soon as I can - money is very thigh as my car just died and I’ve gotta get a new one - but outstanding work
Elite Dangerous is a good example if you want some b-roll of how the galaxy looks, and to explain the 3d-compression effect you were talking about.
Superb work for us Trek fans. 👍
Interesting. Maybe you can do the mapping of Red Dwarf so we can see where the smeggers made their way through the galaxy.
@RichardEKranz
Жыл бұрын
@@subraxas And Talky Toaster! But it would good for a hoot compared to the mapping out the original Enterprises travels.
Briefly considered to do a starmap of dominating factions in Elite Dangerous and soon realised in many cases they are within each other. This is a great effort.
Well done! Look forward to the TAS maps, and the rest.
Whenever I hear about Canopus, I think of Dune. Canopus III is Arrakis.
This video was awesome! I had no idea Star Trek was this consistent with locations. One thing that I have found really strange is how during DS9 the Alpha Quadrant became synonymous with so many races, Federation and otherwise, that are actually in the Beta Quadrant... yet the Beta Quadrant is rarely mentioned. Even the Romulans talk about the Dominion War as being an Alpha Quadrant thing.
@serqetry
Жыл бұрын
Also it has annoyed me for a long time that astronomers won't adopt the Star Trek quadrant system, they use a different one where our solar system is the center... way too heliocentric for modern times if you ask me.
@merafirewing6591
Жыл бұрын
@@serqetry honestly I find the whole heliocentric stuff a load of bull.
Great job! Interesting to see how clustered together most of the stars are. Perhaps some of the outliers were special missions where indications of intelligent life had been identified by Federation astronomers?
Thank you so much for this. I've always wanted something like this since I was young.
Man, those non-corporeal entities sure can be a handful!
You truly are boldly going where no one as gone before...
Great video! You did a great job mapping out everything
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Oliver! It was indeed a very painstaking process
We need this for TNG next!
you're content never disappoints! you're the dopest super nerd and I appreciate you! 🖖
thanks for your effort on TOS map
A great try to make sense out of something(Space)that is moving and reshaping itself.
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jym!
This is one of your finest work, I love what you do in general, but this is deep delve into lore, and I love it.
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
Totally agree, Spock's Brain.....😁😂🤣.
@rayvenkman2087
2 ай бұрын
“They’ve got Spock’s Brain!” McCoy says with the stern weighty seriousness like it’s the Caves of Androzani.
Really awesome video, we can see the amount of work that has gone into this. It must have been challenging at times to get your head around things. It's been presented as clearly as it can be given how complex a subject it is. As I've said before your material is always great, whether it be Star Trek, Mass Effect or, erm... Star Trek, but be proud of what you've accomplished.
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
Thanks James!
Woo Hoo! (*du da, da du na na, da do do do do) WOO HOO ... (Like, as in Blur - Song 2 ... Get it, Get it, huh? Huh, 😅
Yes! Season 2!
Wow, this is great! I love the way you did the graphics on this one! 😊😊😊
A nice surprise! I was completely forgotten I is Friday (because yesterday it was Kings Day, so a day off). Loved it, thanks Tyler!
Damn, you always manage to amaze eith the depth of your research and reasoning! Here's to hoping you have a go at mapping one of the other series! 🖖
Please continue with the films and other series
Outstanding work!
Great episode! You have the best, most ambitious content! 👍🖖
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
Thank you Geoffrey!!!
Just watched episode 5 , crazy!
I presume to get to Gamma Hydra 4 they went *around* Romulan territory. Edit: I take this back: I fell for the 2D trap (like Kahn did in STII:TWoK). For all I know the planet could be well "above" or "below" Romulan territory.
This is ace.
Love these videos
I can't wait for the TAS and movies ones!
This makes me want to rewatch TOS. I think I'll start to do so after the NFL Draft, tonight. 🖖
Wonderful content as always! I hope you continue this into TNG and beyond. Though, DS9 is easily my favorite Trek, it would be rough lol. I have no love of Voyager, but a series charting their journey would be pretty rad. Not to mention Enterprise! Thanks for all the hard work fella!
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
Thanks beezelbuzzel!
The problem is time and distance by speed to reach each. If the adventures did happen in 3-5 years, warp top speed of Warp 7 would take 4-7 weeks or 6-9 weeks around the Netrul Zone. That's my guess.
I like that star trek still a lot of mystery to it's gallery to explore over star wars that has a wiki page for every fart and dust cloud
I love beautiful maps and you're right, this is a pretty complete map from what I've seen over the years 🙂 I wonder if you could get a licensing deal from Paramount for your map...
My gawd we are nerds...I couldn't be happier :)
And to think that it only took a week to get from one location to the next!
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
😂
Amazing
Awesome video (as always) 🥳 Can you please please try to do the same with the route of the Voyager? 🤭
I need some new space weed to understand this.
Let's dive in? LET'S DIVE IN?! That's not the line! Do it right.
Very good, well done!
For ships intended to be deep space explorers, the Federation's flagships did not spend much time exploring deep space. To navigate through tree dimensional space you have to use and XYZ grid. That means to get someplace you have to have an XYZ coordinate for where you are and an XYZ coordinate for where you want to go before you can plot a course.
Amazing video
We need a TNG star chart video. The long term diplomatic mission
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
Working on TNG maps right now! But it's gonna be a huge time commitment. Probably won't have any videos ready for several months.
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
@subraxas ?
This is awesome! Are there plans to do this for TNG and DS9 as well?
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
TNG, definitely! But probably after I finish my retrospective series. As for DS9, maybe--there's not as much to do (perhaps some of their exploits in the Gamma Quadrant), but I've always wanted to map the Dominion War!
All I know is the original crew traveled to both the far edge of the galaxy and the very center of the galaxy during their lifetimes. And this was long before Voyager.
i always say hi back during the intro - anyone else do this?
Next you have to do animated 3D Map :)
@OrangeRiver
11 ай бұрын
Haha, that would be cool!
Well, anyone who’s seen Lessons knows that Stellar Cartography is where all the action is at.
@CaptainBardiel
10 ай бұрын
Or Astrometrics
If you do the Kirk-era films, it should be relatively easy to catalog...at least until you get to Star Trek V. I asked if you were going to cover the animated series, but with Star Trek Picard coming to an end, I hope you cover the Picard's journey with the Enterprise-D during all of TNG. (At the end of the Video: Never mind, you answered my question! Cool!! Can't wait to see them)
@rayvenkman2087
2 ай бұрын
In TOS, the Enterprise had gone absurd distances and if we want to make sense of the distance they’ve made; blame the monkeys who built the Enterprise-A.
As I will bring up in my upcloming Star Map video, Scalos is said to be in an Outer Quadrent of the Galaxy, while two episodes later they say Cheron is in a quaredent in the southern most part of the galaxy. So I just assume that all three worlds are in Vernal Quadrent 4. Something I willl explain in the video I am working on.
It's also possible that the Ardanians just "paused" slavery in order to be admitted to the Federation and resumed the practice some time after. One might argue that the Federation would have done something about it, but that's politics.
Okay so I haven't seen the video yet but I wanted to ask you a question and thought that it might make part of a broader video on the ethical treatment of AI in Star Trek. (It'll give you an excuse to showcase some of Robert Picardo's excellent acting, including when the doctor falls apart after choosing to save one life over another). Do you think that by programming Data to "desire" to become more human, Soong was basically just torturing him? It was a thought I had recently after watching Picard, and I was curious about your take on it.
To boldly map where no map has mapped before.
It's actually never stated for a fact in The Tholian Web web that that episode is the first time that the Federation has made contact with the Tholians. And Spock even remarks in that episode about "renown Tholian punctuality!" Which would certainly seem to strongly suggest that the two have had prior contact with each other.
I wonder, could you do a map series for Star Trek Enterprise?
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
I'd like to! It'll be a little bit harder but I'm planning on it.
@merafirewing6591
Жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver 👍
Loooove this
Alot of stuff from other galaxies seems to show up in tos compared to later series
I love your channel
400 ly away!…. That would take weeks!! at high warp
Have you ever considered doing anything about "The Orville"? Just wondering :)
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
I have thoughts on The Orville! Just haven't turned them into a cohesive script yet ;)
The second season's route was easier to get than the first season's.. Third season, dunno. Anyways, lots of work, this surely took a while and more than one headache. Have you done the voyager's route?
Given that the Enterprise is supposed to be the Federation flagship, the 1701 under Kirk certainly spent alot of time within Federation territory, and hardly going beyoind it, making new first contacts or seeking out new life or civilisations - but I am just basing it on the maps of course, back then space wasnt as explored as it is in the 24th century where the Enterprise-D besides reporting to starbases at the end of nearly every episode also rarely went beyond Federation space, again the Federation flagship, so it has to be the untold stories of these other Federation starships that seem to be doing all the first contacts, lol
This is all assuming that TOS shows every one of the Enterprise's adventures. Stargate SG-1 is explicitly not that way, it's confirmed on screen that the show covers maybe 1/3 of the team's adventures.
Can you do the 7 seasons of TNG? I would watch it.
Tng next :D
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
In due time ;)
@DeconvertedMan
Жыл бұрын
@@OrangeRiver "And this is when they went outside of the universe I guess?!" :D
@OrangeRiver
Жыл бұрын
Lmfao
How do you define First Contact? The NX-01 made contact with the Tholians when they had a future timepod onboard.
Pffft, you got it wrong, Vulcan is a town in Alberta Canada :P