The Stealth Fighter Russia is Too Scared to Deploy?
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In the 1970s, Soviet engineers conceived the ideal stealth fighter. It was the middle of the Cold War, and the nation needed a modern, multifunctional fighter.
As Sukhoi developed the next-generation S-57, the company kick-started a new era in aviation for the country. But never did they foresee that the Soviet Union would fall apart before their dream stealth fighter came through.
The cuts in funding and multiple delays dragged the project into the 2000s, but the Sukhoi-57 was still ready to serve its country, albeit in a different shape.
It didn’t matter if the S-57 was conceived 40 years ago; it was more than ready to compete against the finest American aircraft…
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Well, the Su-57 is so stealthy, it is nowhere to be seen... ;-)
@zombi205
Жыл бұрын
tell us about F-35 falling apart...
@colinvannurden3090
Жыл бұрын
So stealthy no one want to buy them.
@veerchand2129
Жыл бұрын
@@zombi205more countries run F-35s than 57s exist in their entirety, and f35s actually completed missions, taken off from carriers, etc. 800 f-35s in the US and more being made all the time, problems crop up and are fixed, unlike in Russia, that’s how any new product works - if you have a modern industry - which Russia doesn’t, can’t even make Ladas anymore. New adaptive cycle engines to replace the 135 for the future f-35 fleet to keep up with the NGAD fighters, it’s future planning is already coming together, again compared to 6 initial production 57 with no improvements on the horizon for Russia. Cope harder.
@maci6962
Жыл бұрын
You can see them: they are fliying over the Armata.
@zombi205
Жыл бұрын
@@veerchand2129 how much usa pay to the people who order them? How many years and money did cost that program? And they call that can airplain....
SU57s are being build as quickly as America builds Supercarriers.
@cartoonfan959
Жыл бұрын
they would be shot down in ukraine very quickly
@redram5150
Жыл бұрын
So overbudget and in small numbers
@Buddha_the_Pug
Жыл бұрын
🤣👍
@keastymatthew2407
Жыл бұрын
and if 1 person voted for biden it shows the IQ of most yanks😍
@joeh4295
Жыл бұрын
But the super carrier is actually operational
I've seen the Su-57 described as "low visibility" rather than an actual stealth fighter. Its radar cross-section is probably in the region of 1 - 2 m^2, which is much larger than that of an F-22 or F-35.
@XantheFIN
Жыл бұрын
"Low visibility" means here that no where seen in the first place else than inside production plant hangars waiting parts.
@tomk3732
Жыл бұрын
Su-35 is around 1m so Su-57 has to be smaller than that.
@heatblast876
Жыл бұрын
The prototype model T50 has the RCS of 0.1m2 while the serial production model of SU57 has the RCS around 0.01m2 which is an improved model. So yes the improved model of SU57 goes to the stealth category, but still it is not as stealthly as the F35 and F22 which has the RCS around 0.005m2 and 0.0001m2.
@tomk3732
Жыл бұрын
@@heatblast876 Yeah that is maybe best case scenario for Su-57 against certain radar types - and from the front. But than again quoted stuff for F-35 and F-22 are all also best cases scenarios against some radars.
@er6890
Жыл бұрын
@A N you’re talking about 1 41 year old retired airplane with old stealth technology that was even dated for its time. It’s like comparing the first Nokia phone to the iPhones of the day. Try again.
The reason why there aren't many SU57's is that the supply chain of woodscrews has been severely disrupted.
@anhedonianepiphany5588
Жыл бұрын
Everyone knows that improvised composites delaminate more rapidly without plenty of self-tapping wood screws.
@jerromedrakejr9332
Жыл бұрын
You think the American way of producing the F-35 is good? It goes like this... Lockheed Martin 15 years ago: yes, this plane is still not finished, but it can fly, we will start its production and we will fix the "minor" defects as we go! Fifteen years later, hundreds of airplanes built that practically still can't do anything, hundreds of not-so-minor defects, dozens of upgrades paid not by Lockheed Martin but by the taxpayer because... Lockheed Martin isn't stupid... it made a defective product and then for years, and it seems the next decades will be correcting defects that are basically uncorrectable because they should have been corrected during design! Su-57? A test batch that went to testing, every defect is corrected on test maybe a dozen aircraft, testing will last as long as necessary and then serial production will start... sounds like a normal sequence of events, right!?
@notenote2004
Жыл бұрын
The supply chain of transgenders in the USA armed forces should be taken as an example!
@mobilegamersunite
Жыл бұрын
Threy shot one down already I thought ....better get more washing machines for parts 😆 🤣 😂 😹
@turkeysamr
Жыл бұрын
@@jerromedrakejr9332 is the f-35 operational? Yes? there I've already proven the f&35 is better than the su-57. The rest of the world agrees, hence why most nations who can buy the f-35 are buying the f-35 over the su-57
This sounds like what our dev team calls a "Tiger Team Project". It get all the money and all the best engineers but never goes anywhere.
@willhem5963
Жыл бұрын
Tiger Team? I don't get it, sorry
@gryphon9507
Жыл бұрын
Sounds like NASA's Artemis program.
@stephenkellar
Жыл бұрын
I believe the program is run by the marketing department. The engineers are like, that's not what I told you. You missed that part were I said "wouldn't that be nice if".
@BionicRusty
Жыл бұрын
I know all about Tiger Teams 😃 I was a supplier, delivering into one on DIRCM. 👍
@matsv201
Жыл бұрын
Aa.. yes .. we had one of those "What make them better?" "They are the tiger team"
If the Su-57 was anywhere near a good as the F-22, then Russia would be keeping it to themselves, and not trying to sell it to other nations.
@pulver117
Жыл бұрын
Not to mention Russia themselves would have more than a dozen of them. Instead they are only making as many as they are selling? Yeah that don't smell right, it outright stinks of orc, Algeria, you seriously still gonna pay for these?!?🤣
@dr.victorvs
Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's an absolute joke. People just can't get over the fact that US technology is unparalleled and they have to keep inventing ways that a country that has invested 13x less in the military for the last 40 years somehow managed to surpass it; most such claims have been shot down by the Russo-Ukraine war, but people still linger in that well of stupidity and every once in a while shit out one more.
@sathos
Жыл бұрын
International sales is how Russia funds their projects, at most what they do is just nerf or remove some features like they have done with withholding refit setups and upgrades for their tanks
@gorflunk
Жыл бұрын
@@sathos A convenient excuse for when they underperform? "Ah, well, you knew you weren't getting the latest and greatest, so...." -Vlad probably.
@justincase5272
Жыл бұрын
Manufacturers need the money. Also, in case of a global war, countries which purchased them may be tasked with augmenting Russian forces.
I finally subbed instead of relying on the algorithm. I've been worried about that algorithm changing my recommendeds to mostly aircraft but whatever, I like the channel
Those are about the least stealthy engines I could have imagined! I imagine that their IR signature is really high! They don't even make some vague, lame attempt to shroud them! Still, it's a sweet-looking jet!
@jamstagerable
Жыл бұрын
Also those engines allow this beautiful piece of aerospace engineering to dance in the sky seemingly weightless like a ballerina while the beyond visual range missile closes in. 🩰
@chrislong3938
Жыл бұрын
@@jamstagerable That is certainly true except I recall an Air Force pilot remarking that a plane sitting in the air would be a dream come true...
@HypePerformanceGroup
Жыл бұрын
They’re using element 41 so there is no IR signature, the afterburner is just a LED effect
@Herb___
Жыл бұрын
@@jamstagerable dancing like a ballerina means huge amounts of energy loss which equal death in most cases in a dogfight.
@lexburen5932
Жыл бұрын
@@Herb___ dancing like a ballerina means more nimble and maneuverable then the to heavy slower turning american aircrafts. this aircraft can also turn around its axle wich the F22 F35 cant do else it will fall out of the sky because its not powerfull enough and to heavy.
To be fair, these are the dudes saying their combat suits had a bunch of stuff like super protective armor, and built in radio, but they were deployed with cardbord armor, old russian weapons, and helmets made of hard plastic.
@escapedcops08
Жыл бұрын
Some of those helmets looked like the ones used on special needs people.
@nomaam-br549
Жыл бұрын
To be fair............!
@dirtyd2316
Жыл бұрын
My favorite one is how their pilots were taking their personal smartphones and taping them in the cockpit to use the gps off of it cause the gps systems in their aircraft were so unreliable and hardly worked.
@nem447
Жыл бұрын
i saw that, to much siphoning off & corruption, but the top guys all have mansions and super yachts
@Snugggg
Жыл бұрын
@@dirtyd2316 onboard INS - inertial navigation system. its old and not very accurate by todays standards but its passive so no signals to be spied on. thats what they should be using but its inconvenient and takes extra effort and navigational skills. also accuracy degrades with rough flying. GPS is much much more convenient but signals can be intercepted tracked and gives away your position and heading and in some cases your home base. i've read this is down to a training issues, but also maintenance and discipline problems with the russian air force. ultimately it compromises their operational security and helps warn air defences prepare ahead of their arrival. 👍 (edit: it was smartphones that were giving away their movements. as mentioned by @alina - GPS on its own is receive only and does not transmit a signal)
I watched a recent conversation on KZread where a retired American officer stated that Russia was using their advanced fighters by keeping them within Russian airspace while firing missiles that have a range of about 200 miles to take down Ukrainian planes within Ukraine itself. Does that make sense?
@bigrob966
Жыл бұрын
It would make some sense, but if it were an effective tactic, Ukraine wouldn't have an airforce anymore.
@davidbonk1672
Жыл бұрын
Some. Both Russia and Ukraine use Russian planes. In the early days of the war, Russian pilots flying over Ukraine may have had a moment of confusion trying to determine the friend or foe status of the aircraft they encounter.
@Sam-od4xb
Жыл бұрын
@@bigrob966 Ukraine doesn't have air force any longer. 90% is downed or destroyed. NATO is sending Soviet surplus airplanes like Slovakian and Check republic mig 29 . And some Soviet helicopters. But they get shut down in the first mission right away. It's the fact I know CNN and Fox News didn't tell you this
@roflmatol
Жыл бұрын
@@Sam-od4xb That must be why Russia is too scared to fly sorties over Ukraine, lol.
@TheFirebird123456
Жыл бұрын
They do have air to air missile with that range, so unfortunately yes. It's a way to take out the opposing airforce while staying safe. That said the Russians don't fear the ukraian airforce. They fear the s300 and buks that make fighting close to the front at altitude a death wish. U either fire far away or hug the treeline and hope somebody with a manpad doesn't see u.
6:06 is this bad boy rocking two different engines? LOL I love that so much of their stock footage is test rigs
@Foenem521
Жыл бұрын
I just noticed that. Lol
I always wished the Berkut was produced. Its gorgeous and ballsy.
@MountainRangerOne
Жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see that
Just to let everyone know this “stealth” fighter has the same radar signature as an f18 a non stealth plane
@vashcrimson4395
Жыл бұрын
its a paper threat.
@EndriuC
Жыл бұрын
It might not be much more stealthy, but at least it's more expensive and less reliable.
@JackindaSack
Жыл бұрын
don't worry, they'll paint it black and that'll fix it
@MaistoHelix
Жыл бұрын
This is yet another "panic" project, its just there to somehow keep up with the West on tech. It's almost sad to see..
@wisenber
Жыл бұрын
"the same radar signature as an f18 " It depends which angle. It's not the same from the ground or from in front.
Uncontested fact is that Su-57 has the best stealth system in the world - nobody ever detected its deployment.
@GermanRLopez
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
this piece of awesome is so good that the landing gear worked.
"an unfulfilled promise" is an apt description of the entire Potemkin Russian air farce.
@gregwilliams386
Жыл бұрын
Oldjohn, I doubt modern people know what a Potemkin Village is?
@Oldjohn52
Жыл бұрын
@@gregwilliams386 quite probably true. sadly.
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
Potemkin Village is entire American military complex. Weapons that aren't made for real war. UA exposed US MIC as paper tiger.
Damn, that is a REALLY nice looking plane. Love the lines.
@christophergonzalez5552
Жыл бұрын
It really is a beautiful aircraft. Sad that it’s plagued by its production issues and funding.
And here I thought it was because they were afraid of a U.S. Airforce Colonel who stole the Soviets most advanced aircraft in 1982. Thank you, Mitchell Grant.
@BGRUBBIN
Жыл бұрын
Is that the Clint Eastwood movie?
@lancekilkenny721
Жыл бұрын
"You must THINKin Russian "!
@lampy5490
Жыл бұрын
*Gant. 😀
@markst.germain9286
Жыл бұрын
Firefox
@markst.germain9286
Жыл бұрын
@@BGRUBBIN Firefox
I hope the ejection seat work because they will 100% need them
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
I love US cockiness. I hope those F-35 pilots are eager to try themselves in UA. Why not? I mean Russians won't see it and won't know what hit them right? Right? Send F-35 and we will see if it is really stealthy as they claim.
I have a feeling this is gonna end up like the aircraft carrier they got.
The Su-57 is so stealthy it's never been spotted in action. LOL
@ruskifoxrf9167
Жыл бұрын
Congratulations, you finally figured out what "stealth" defines I'm sorry Russia isn't desperate to smack gopros on their pilots helmets in order to prove something to children from a country with a debt of 40 trillion
@jonathanwick1265
Жыл бұрын
@@ruskifoxrf9167 How many foreign orders does the mighty Su-57 have again? One customer? Cope harder Ivan, hope you don't get shipped off to Ukraine to die for your master Putin.
@ruskifoxrf9167
Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanwick1265 I live in Cali, racist pig. And the F-35 has more orders because it is literally developed by like 7698+ countries working on it together Einstein. Common sense
@jonathanwick1265
Жыл бұрын
@@ruskifoxrf9167 Sure Ivan whatever you say. Even India passed on the Su-57 and it was supposed to be a joint program. LMAO!!! 🤣😂
@jonathanwick1265
Жыл бұрын
@@ruskifoxrf9167 also is the term racist pig supposed to mean anything? The word racist gets thrown around so casually that it's lost all meaning. But by all means please continue to be triggered by my comments. Cope and seethe Ivan, cope and seethe.
I love the looks of the SU-57. It is a gorgeous aircraft. Ain't no way it's stealthy with those exposed engines and rivets. Head to head combat with a F-22, raptor will remain king.
@TheBenji800
Жыл бұрын
Looks closer to a YF-23 big and flat. There's probably a reason it wasn't chosen and this thing has the same flaws.
@1111boone
Жыл бұрын
The only thing the SU-57 would see of the Raptor would be the Raptor’s air to air missiles about to take it out! No reason for the F22 to ever dogfight !
@ya_boi_zach5140
Жыл бұрын
It looks like the illegitimate love child of an f22 and an f14
@MrDCrosswell
Жыл бұрын
The engines of the SU-57 have a lower signature than those from the F-22. It's something the Russian fighters are noted for.
@stevewhite3424
Жыл бұрын
@@MrDCrosswell The Russians can't even get the engines to work properly at all.
I would imagine this is what the YF-23 would look like in a production model.
@myREALnameISiAM
Жыл бұрын
I imagine this is what a Russian F-22 rip off would look like...
@katherineberger6329
Жыл бұрын
Except the F-23 would actually be able to do what it says it does.
Love your docs.
It’s not stealthy, it’s ‘stealth curious’!
@redred7289
Жыл бұрын
Classic
@larryshamlin5945
Жыл бұрын
Lol 😆 🤣
What bothers me is how generally speaking, most kick ass aircraft, look kick ass. I have to wonder if design starts with a flash gorden idea and then becomes reverse engineered to make it work?
@Really250
Жыл бұрын
Lol I totally wondered the same lol
@bob38028
Жыл бұрын
I think it's an artifact of our primate brains associating the newest and most capable weapon as kick ass because of its capability, and therefore we associate its visual aesthetics with kick-assery. There are only so many ways a thing like a fighter jet can be designed, so eventually they'll all follow a certain form.
@tealsquare
Жыл бұрын
@@bob38028 you are drunk, Santa.
Just so everybody knows.... As a former US Abrams gunner.. Russia and any satellite capable country can track us in real time due to the heat of our tanks...
Top quality Russian design and manufacture as always.............The SU57 is the John Cena of stealth technology.
The S-57 reminds me of the T-14 Armata. What a coincidence. Neither of the platforms has been tested in a battle space. And with current questions concerning how reliable they are, will see how many they sell.
@MaxKrumholz
Жыл бұрын
no Neither of the platforms EXIST
@EndriuC
Жыл бұрын
It's "ArmaTa". And yeah, the T-14 is the first example of a completely new tank category: not MBT, but what I call "MPT" - Main Parade Tank. And even that role it filled poorly, by breaking down DURING a parade. Aaaaaand now it's cancelled. Let's see when (not IF) it happens to the Su-57.
@maci6962
Жыл бұрын
What is inoperable cannot be tested.
@joshthemigpro1733
Жыл бұрын
@@MaxKrumholz it didn't break down it had the tank version of hand break on
@EndriuC
Жыл бұрын
@@I_Cunt_Spell Try one more time, but in English this time.
Best of all it can deploy sharks with lasers, so easy to write a long list of awesome capabilities a tad more difficult to produce though.
@ZionistSoldier
Жыл бұрын
Ill tempered sea bass?
@carnelmccarthy1099
Жыл бұрын
@@ZionistSoldiergoldfish..
@factomator
Жыл бұрын
Snakes!
Is this made by the same company that makes the HTT (Hypersonic Tank Turret) ?
If the SU-57 received a export varian it would be cool to see my country buy Su-57 ( depends on the cost bc one of the options of Portugal to replace the F-16’s are the F-35’s)
if fighter jets were judged entirely on their looks, this one would be one of the best in the world
@joeyjamison5772
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, war is not a beauty contest. They would be better off if it was ugly and more effective.
@lmj06
Жыл бұрын
@@joeyjamison5772 notice how the first word in my sentence was "IF"
@bigwitt187
Жыл бұрын
We would have the F-23 instead of the F-22 as well.
@jcwoods2311
Жыл бұрын
Great for video games though
@crusader8102
Жыл бұрын
nah man, the su-47 exists
Exposed rivets are super stealthy
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
That's untreated prototype. Serial models are all covered in RAM. Look how X-35 looked, not so good.
Nicely explained
Awesome video
How stealthy can a su57 be? 2 engines hanging out In the open producing massive heat signatures. Then 6 hard points with bombs/missiles hanging in the open. Who exactly is this thing hiding from and when? Maybe I'm missing something idk.
@cookiecola5852
Жыл бұрын
ahh damnit, they forgot about those engines
“Stealth like capabilities” -Laughs in F22
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
US needs to send some F-22s and F-35s to UA so that Russians would also have some laugh.
Can you do a video on the RAF Ferry Ganet ?
I love how they keep referring to this and China’s J-20 as “Stealth Fighters” when they are clearly not that. The Su-57 looks like an excellent air superiority fighter. But it will light up like a beacon on radar. They both lack some critical elements of stealth fighters. The airflow ducting to the engines is straight. Their is a direct line of sight to the planes turbo fans. Everything in the ass end is a radar reflector. From the afterburner nozzles to the tail surface connection points. There is nothing stealth about the cockpit. It’s straight glass into the complex reflective shapes inside. NATO can track these things from 100 miles away. Also just looking at it, you can see it will suffer from the same compressor stall while flat rudder turning issues that plagued the US F-14.
Dark's channels have produced excellent content since day one. Now the narration is a little slower I highly recommend them, without bias or any skin in the game!!! 👍
Doesn't seem the Felon is anywhere near as stealthy as the F-22 or even F-35's and they for sure don't want enemy radar's getting a look at it enough to be able to recognize the signature. We didn't sell F-35's to Turkey because they have S-300 systems which would learn what they looked like with regular exposure and compromise future use against hostiles using the same air defense systems. The Felon very well might have the 'record' long range air kill in Ukraine, but that's the missile and not the launching platform that deserves the credit. The US has long range missiles too but Rules of Engagement dictate that we get close enough to verify the target before shooting to avoid civilian deaths. The Russians in Ukraine have no such worries and would gladly shoot down anything flying over Ukraine if they can...military or civilian.
@Shrrby
Жыл бұрын
Pretty fitting they call it the felon given their disregard for the RoE
@icecold9511
Жыл бұрын
There is also the concept of what is useful range. Long range usually equals heavier missile. That's a handicap in ACM, and it will be less able to track and kill a target.
@MrDCrosswell
Жыл бұрын
Turkey has S-400 systems.
@Relayer6a
Жыл бұрын
Do you believe that no allies have bought Russian AA systems for testing? They cut them out because they were supporting Moscow by purchasing systems from them rather than western companies.
@Relayer6a
Жыл бұрын
@@MrDCrosswell And considering the success Israel has had against the S-400 it doesn't appear to be much of a threat.
I would love to see the S-57 vs Patroits Missiles in the upcoming spring push!
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
Why US is scared of using F-35? I mean Russians won't see it and won't know what hit them right? Right? Send F-35 and we will see if it is really stealthy as they claim.
Claimed "9+ G capability" but the fuselage cracks when limited to sub 5G maneuvers? How's that going to work when it's in combat? Hope the ejection seats work.
One of the most striking visuals for me in this video was a shot of the Su-57 taxiing... for jut a second I could've sworn I was looking at a Firefox!
@Eth3realwarrior
Жыл бұрын
You must think Russian
@madmax2069
Жыл бұрын
You talking about at 1:13?
How are you going to convince anybody that you can build an advanced stealth fighter when you don't even attempt to secure your own battlefield communications?
@skeggjoldgunnr3167
Жыл бұрын
Russian babushka says "Gee...these "neo-nazi's are WHOOPING Russian military like a red-headed step child!" The slow-walking bundled-up old babushkas are very wise people. They are NOT fooled by lies. I've heard your very same words from Russian babushka.
@GermanRLopez
Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣…that’s a very good question! 🤣🤣🤣
@anhedonianepiphany5588
Жыл бұрын
So megaphones _aren’t_ secure?!?
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
You don't know where and how it is used. This is war of attrition, mainly mobie artillery battles and Russia has like an order of magnitute advantage in terms of volume or number of rounds used. Helicopters would probably be way more useful here. And isn't it a good chance for US to test F-35 against real modern air defense and real air-force? I mean Russians won't see it and won't know what hit them right? Right? Lets send F-35 and we will see if it is really stealthy as they claim.
This aircraft would be wild if it had the Pratt & Whitney F119 engines that the Raptor has.
@rdan6907
Жыл бұрын
Get supply of oil and gas from them next 100 years😂
It’s a really nice looking plane. 3:43 I couldn’t help but notice that they had 2 planes on the tail. It looks like an f117 or b21 mix. I’m guessing they have a secret plane they aren’t releasing to the public. It would make sense, with the success of both those American planes.
This fighter is so stealth that nobody have seen it flying in combat zone! amazing!!!
@MrDCrosswell
Жыл бұрын
Wrong!
@sleeplessknight99
Жыл бұрын
@@MrDCrosswell Yeah, I see Su-57s operating in DCS all the time.
@MrDCrosswell
Жыл бұрын
@@sleeplessknight99 Go back to sleep
@vladraduandrei5227
Жыл бұрын
@@MrDCrosswell butthurt much tankie ?
At best, this is a 4.x fighter. Likely a very high 4.x, but not a true 5th gen. Trying to source parts for it now must also be nearly impossible.
@thomgt4
Жыл бұрын
Likely a low 4.x you mean? The tail is a drama. Frontal radar signature might be OK but all other angles are terrible
@dannyzero692
Жыл бұрын
@@thomgt4 the angles are especially terrible at the tail, they didn’t even cover up the exhaust and the damn sensors are sticking out like sores.
@nem447
Жыл бұрын
4.5?
@thesupreme8062
Жыл бұрын
@@nem447 the kf 21 boramae is a 4.5 and its stealth capabilities look to be much better
@DUKE_of_RAMBLE
Жыл бұрын
Speaking of airplanes.... I wonder who has worse radar signature... The Su-57? OR The Sopwith Camel? 😂
Some things people should consider before dismissing the Su-57 Like the Su-57, the F22 has never had an air-to-air engagement (beyond shooting down a Chinese spy balloon). Like the Su-57 the F22 is also an aircraft that was designed 40 years ago...before the internet was a thing. The Su-57 started production in 2019 , the F22 started production in 1996... *THE 90's* . This means the Russians have had 23 years worth of observation and technological innovation to pack into their aircraft, but also means the US Raptors have had 23 years of refinement, training and procedural development, along with ongoing modifications to incorporate new tech into the airframe. The F22 is definitely more stealthy, but it's never really needed that stealth for much, nobody they've been fighting has had much capability of shooting one down even if they could see it on radar. Su-57 is in a sweet spot, it's semi-stealthy but can still manoeuvre and dog fight once it's actually discovered. It's probably as good as the rafale/ eurofighter/ gripen and perhaps even better as an overall aircraft...it's likely a formidable jet fighter.
Berkut! Such a sweet plane! The SU-57 low volume is due to funding issues… by comparison the US budget is 10x that of Russia and with that the F-35 project cost is $1.2 Trillion..
may not be a stealthy jet, but it sure is one of the most beautiful
@stephencurry8552
Жыл бұрын
Sure thing sparky!
@joeyjamison5772
Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, war is not a beauty contest. They would be better off if it was ugly and more effective.
@DFX2KX
Жыл бұрын
@@stephencurry8552 I mean, he's not WRONG, it Is pretty. Pretty doesn't win wars, though.
@gnarthdarkanen7464
Жыл бұрын
It's a WHOLE LOT easier to make a beautiful jet-shaped object than it is to make a functioning fighter-jet... AND these days, fancy aerobatics can wow a crowd of non-pilots at an airshow, but won't necessarily put W's on the board when being shot at by actual pilots with REAL war-planes. ;o)
@nem447
Жыл бұрын
@@DFX2KX imo they ruined the lines when the put the ass cone on
I've always thought the Su-57 was a pretty good looking aircraft, but it also appears to suffer from the post-soviet era production problems. I would agree with "stealth-like properties," since to my eye there are way too many points of radar reflection all over its airframe. The question is, is it stealthy enough to shake off radar guided missiles fired from the air or ground? I'd say probably not. Also the fact that they are touting it's laser anti-IR missile system leads me to believe that it puts out a lot of heat. Hence that's the weapon that scares them them most. In contested skies between a couple dozen (at best) SU-57s and several wings of F-35's and a few F-22s, not to mention an equal number of JAS-39 Gripens, Typhoons, Rafales, and butt-loads of F-15s, F-16s, and FA-18s, I know where I'd put my money. Sure Russia has other fighters, but the difference in quality is paramount. One-on-one I think the SU-57 would have difficulty with an F-15E, and would be utterly outmatched by a flight of three of any of the others I mentioned.
@nickmiller4430
Жыл бұрын
Russian S-500s guarantee complete air supremacy over all Western airforces. It’s already too late- Russian military technology is 2-3 generations ahead of the West. You also have no grasp of the SU-57 and only offer empty propagandistic speculation.
@tarmaque
Жыл бұрын
@@nickmiller4430 Да, Иван. Славную Российскую империю никогда не победить, кроме как упорными украинскими дилетантами с некачественным оружием, поставляемым с Запада.
@nicholasjaeger3132
Жыл бұрын
Yea the "stealth" to my understanding is best from the front. And yea they still have having issues getting the engine that has the power needed to hit the capabilities it was designed for. So i cannot imagine the engine development has undergone any kind of thermal dissipation. but seeing China's J-20 program is surpassed the su-57 program by miles is just kinda shows the issues they faced developing this. That being said, it has a great flight profile is is a super gorgeous plane but it was designed for dogfighting era in an era where dogfights barley happen. Sad but i just think this plane came a little late to be that relevant.
@tarmaque
Жыл бұрын
@@nicholasjaeger3132 Agreed.
@ManiaMac1613
Жыл бұрын
The SU-57 would have been a game-changer if it had entered mass production in the late 90s or early 2000s like they originally planned, but by the time Russia actually builds enough of them to fill a squadron it'll be functionally obsolete.
"If so good you are, why leave" - Yoda
Still not ready as final testing is going on.
I can see why the program struggled. Most Kickstart projects never deliver even when they reach their fundraising goal.
First time saw this craft in the game Ace Combat Assault Horizon, I thought it was a wonder plane back then LoL. It is beautiful at the very least. Seems like there's just one problem that keeps popping up, "lack of funding". I knew when I saw Top Gun Mav that the cannon is not on the left side as shown in the movie, thats a mistake. The cannon is on the right side. Man the rudders are sooooo adorably small on this thing. Wish the F22 had all moving rudders.
@watermelongaming3698
Жыл бұрын
Ah, an Ace Combat fan yes? The Su-57 is fun to use, though I could say that about several of the high-tier planes.
@exumbra1399
Жыл бұрын
Indeed! This plane was one of the cooler-looking ones in Ace Combat, but the fact that the footage is playing in Arcade Mode (the ailerons' [side to side] movement are relative to the camera and not the airplane) is irksome. Also, the most impressive plane won't win if you can't afford to build more and the parts and pilot are sub-par due to corruption at every level of production.
The best Mig ever was the Mig-31 FireFox. It was so damn good and so scary that we actually sent a man who snuck straight up inside the USSR to confiscate it. But they had two though, and the chase was one. 😁
@cavejohnson8665
Жыл бұрын
Not as impressive as the EM-50 Urban Assault Vehicle.
@markobajt9261
Жыл бұрын
@Krešimir Pavlović esentially a F-117.
According to many experts (especially those part of original India contract) say the Su-57 is just a Su-27/30 with new body panels.
Russian media - "The Su-57 is the best stealth fighter in the world!" ...cause not even the Russian military can find one. ;)
I have often wondered: What if we put a "shotgun" that fires something like buckshot out the tail? Wouldn't that destroy or damage missile coming from the rear, and do some damage to a fighter on its tail?
@Durabele
Жыл бұрын
Nope, that's just downright stupid because a) the pellets would never hit their target because of the plane turning b) missiles almost always lead their targets instead of chasing them, so this would never be useful anyway c) aerial warfare is soon turning into BVR (beyond visual range) engagements instead of dogfights. If the pilot is in a situation where they'd need that then something has already gone very wrong d) where would you even fit it? the back is where the engines are e) unnecessary complexity and cost for basically no return as stated above.
@bennittotheburrito9606
Жыл бұрын
@@Durabele bro wants a lizard tailed fighter lol
I've heard the Su-57 was billed more as an "anti-stealth" fighter in the sense that it itself is not very stealthy, but was supposed to compensate for it with an advanced infrared suite that would detect the smallest of heat signatures from other stealth craft, but then that sensor suite never came into existence so it's just an interesting looking parade toy.
@1019nothing
9 ай бұрын
That's interesting. It would explain alot.
@user-el5yw3fs4b
6 ай бұрын
this ceremonial toy successfully conducts military operations in Ukraine . Thus, at the stage of refinement and testing, Russia is forcing the time of the formation of this product into the army. In your opinion, has the F-22 already received an active radar or not yet?
@user-el5yw3fs4b
6 ай бұрын
su 57 is used in a special operation in Ukraine . Does that explain a lot to you ?@@1019nothing
Commemorating 50 years of aircraft engineering for a single aircraft.
@gunilive781
Жыл бұрын
a single aircraft that they still are scared of using*
@alexeikonovalov5479
Жыл бұрын
Yawn... Apparently, the "geniuses" hiding behind "Dark Skies" consider their viewers total idiots and/or too lazy to check the actual facts. Let's see what you'll find if you take a bit of an effort and scout through google/wikipedia and "all of the sudden" you'll find that: 1. The SU-57 program was started in 2002, not "concieved in 1970"... 2. Su-57 was ACTUALLY deployed (not "scared to deploy") in Syria and is being actively used in Ukraine, unlike "according to some uknown/unnamed analyists doubting that". You don't have to take a word for what is stated in the wikipedia and cross-check the facts further by finding even video/image footage of the use of Su-57 in the mentioned countries. Sure, developing a modern aircraft is not a road paved with roses only. Take a look at the F22/F35 programs, were they all a total success? Of course, no. But no one would doubt that ultimately both programs achieved their goals. And only someone in total denial would reject that argument or some "dark in the sky" cheap propagandist would make a claim of such a program being a total disaster...
@outvoid6847
5 ай бұрын
@@gunilive781 embarrassed not scared *
It has flight like capabilities.
@jeepaholic326
Жыл бұрын
idk but this made me laugh way too hard
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
F-35 can take into the air and spend 1 minutes at supersonic speeds. They to avoid cracks in airframe it should slow down.
Plot twist, they made SU-57 so stealthy that there is actually 10 000 of them flying around.
Sounds like this jet is susceptible to premature air frame fatigue hence all the re reinforcements adding significant weight penalties. Still looks nice though.
These cylindrical engine sections and nozzles are extremely non-stealty. A circle has always a part of it that is perpendicular to anydirection a radar beam would come from.
@matsv201
Жыл бұрын
and you can se the welds like a km away. The Welds need to be super flush to be the least bit stalthy
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
Жыл бұрын
Radar also "flows" around the circular surface and return back. The F-22 and F-35 noses have angles on the sides to break up this flow.
@galaxlordcz3933
Жыл бұрын
@@matsv201 There have also been in flight photos showing exposed screws. Should go without saing that it is very bad for stealth.
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
F-35 has cylindrical engine.
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
@@galaxlordcz3933 Do you realise that you were watching untreated prototypes? Maybe wanna look at X-35? Or at F-22 and F-35 production? You see a lot of dcrews.
Those rivets in the airframe sticks out everywhere on the Airframe………..so it’s not stealth at all.
The radar cross section of the SU-57 is the same as a clean Super Hornet.
"Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak." Sun Tzu, The Art of War
@JohnHoranzy
Жыл бұрын
Sometimes weak is just weak.
@haydenmorrow9249
Жыл бұрын
I can't tell if you are trying to say the Russians are strong because the Su-57 looks like shit, or if Russia is weak because they are constantly screaming and crying trying to make people think they are powerful.
@DOI_ARTS
Жыл бұрын
With Russia it is the reverse, Communist know how to scare the shit out of people 😂😂😂
@AP-qs2zf
Жыл бұрын
Just like in Ukraine? Man Russian 🐷 are playing 6d chess
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
"Greatest fighting force in history" - Obama. LOL! US lost every modern war it took part in and right now they are losing another one.
When it comes to jet fighters, you have to decide what type of jet you want. A long range "stealth sniper" or a close up knife fighter.
9gs are amazing until your pilot passes out
The Felon can probably greatly outperform the F-35 in a dogfight (if the F-35 was careless enough to get into dogfight range in the first place) but the F-22? Not a chance.
@SoldierXXL
Жыл бұрын
Honestly the F35 was never designed for close range "dogfighting" in the first place its meant to stealthily fire from BVR and get out without anyone seeing its there many 4th and 4.5 gen aircraft have better performance than the F35 outside of stealth , Eurofighter , Rafale , Gripen and so on will out maneuver the F35 on a 1v1 close range fight !
@exidy-yt
Жыл бұрын
@@SoldierXXL Yes, that's what I ment by 'F-35 being careless enough to get into dogfight range'. Ideally the F-35 should never ever get close enough to see an enemy plane or it's hosed, unless it's lucky enough to get an off-boresight AIM-9X kill.
It looks so cool. If Algeria is getting some, it's only a matter of time before Elbonia does. Then we'll have one.
@user-ym5bl2vl7c
6 ай бұрын
Shame on you and your country.😝😝
The Su57 is an airshow darling. In a direct clash, it's target practice.
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
Prove it. So far US hardware failed as it is not made for real wars, that's why US lost all its modern wars.
No amount of F-22s and F-35s could defeat a squadron of SU-57s! Because there aren't enough functional SU-57s to make a squadron.
Advanced radar for helping you find the ground when you crash because of engine failure
@MrDCrosswell
Жыл бұрын
I think you have confused it with the F-35.
@AP-qs2zf
Жыл бұрын
@@MrDCrosswell wrong. Where is Russian 🐷 Airforce in Ukraine?
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
Жыл бұрын
@@MrDCrosswell there were like three crashes in a span of a month in Russia/Ukraine which is the sane number as the F-35 had in 15 years.
@Operator_Jack
Жыл бұрын
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD don't worry about david, they're coping hard knowing damn well a jet with bolted wings (su57) will get a bvr missile up its turbine
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD US has several plane crashes every month.
there was a grim joke in air force circles, that the reason russia used "57", is it exceeded the performance of the F-22 and carried a higher payload than it and the F-35 combined. as with the current military debacle, they seem to be all flash and no bang.
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
_as with the current military debacle, they seem to be all flash and no bang._ I don't think you understand what you are talking about. US crices that they can't produce anything for UA and can't keep up with Russia. How many times they claimed that Russian is running out of missiles? US MIC is a joke.
there's a lot of risk deploying a new fighter. when it's just seen on the ground nobody knows what it can do. Once it's deployed in battle there's no doubt what it can do.
How many of them are there? Serial production started last month.
They AREN'T scared to deploy it, they only have about a dozen of them, and, most of those are pre-production prototypes.
@NationChosenByGod
Жыл бұрын
They are afraid to get shot down just like the Su-35 in Ukraine. Overhyped garbage.
@ChucksSEADnDEAD
Жыл бұрын
There's been prototype weapons pressed into service in Ukraine, like one of a kind T-80 variants. However, they're not scared of losing a T-80. Losing a Su-57? Big no no.
@bigrob966
Жыл бұрын
No, they've entered serial production, but it's at a suuuuper low rate.
@galaxlordcz3933
Жыл бұрын
10 of them are actual production vehicles
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD There were reports that Su-57 shot down UA's Su-27 from super long range.
I'm not a fan of Russian belligerence, but I've always had a soft spot for Russian/USSR aircraft. I wish there was any reason whatsoever other than war to build such fast, sexy aircraft. Maybe in the future, Red Bull air races will use F-22s and Su-57s, and maybe some J-20s.
Been deployed for a while.... That's how good it is....
A plane that has a radar reflection surface factor 20 times greater than the F-117 ;) and over 40 times than the F-22 and F-35 :)
Great video sir thanks I love fighter jets and helicopters and car videos the SU27 is my favourite design 👌 but the Su57 is a awesome piece of engineering 😀
@AP-qs2zf
Жыл бұрын
Su27 and 57 is garbage 🗑️
When it comes to the realm of military weaponry, (especially aircraft), the two dimensional world is a much easier arena to deliver weapons’ capabilities than it is when compared to the three dimensional world.
Tricks at airshows doesn’t equate to combat readiness.
with those engines stealth is a generous term
They probably have commercial car GPS Systems hanging in the cockpit 🤣
The SU-57 is a pretty aircraft, no doubt - the prettiest aircraft Russia has ever produced, IMO. But it's NOT all it's cracked up to be. Definitely NOT an F-22 killer.
@MrRocking4ever
Жыл бұрын
Su 27 and Su 35 are also pretty aircraft - high performance but in combat I prefer the F-15 or F-35
The so called "Cheek Array Radars" are for "Friend or Foe" ID only they are not functional AESA radars used to targeting.
Drones and Hypersonic missiles are more important than so called stealth fighters!
Still a gorgeous looking machine.
S Intel says these are just a little step up from their traditional forth gen fighters. No super cruise, large radar signature, frame stress issues. The F22 is twenty years old and is still the premier stealth fighter
@_Epsilon_
Жыл бұрын
You just descibed F-35. No supercruise - check, frame (and engines) stress issues - check. Large radar signature? Well they are scared to give it to UA. I mean Russians won't see it and won't know what hit them right? Right? Send F-35 and we will see if it is really stealthy as they claim.
Say what you want, but lets be real. The paint scheme of the SU-57 is sick af
@IrishCarney
Жыл бұрын
Which one? The one with the dazzle camouflage of random triangles that break up its shape? The one that looks like a smaller plane with a pixelated outline?
@qu_gnsnifflesss
Жыл бұрын
@@IrishCarney the pixelated one is great ngl
I'm sure when Su-57 is ready it'll be decades passed after the retirement of f22
It's Su 57....not S...
Russain SU57, NATO designation "RAPTOR FOOD"
@derschwarzgeist
Жыл бұрын
Or, since they’re all F words, how about “Fodder”?
What about those strange disc like planes that come from the far north?