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@aurathedraak7909

2 жыл бұрын

Nope

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2 жыл бұрын

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@aidegrod

2 жыл бұрын

@Dope Fiend How? Did u propose to have megarefrigator onboard of aircraft?

@autopilot3176

2 жыл бұрын

Use code "eT cetera" with a "T" and not "eX cetera". If you pronounce it 17 times per video, at least learn the fukkin word.

@ROBOTRIX_eu

2 жыл бұрын

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Stealth aircraft technology has never been an everything. It’s an advantage. Not magic.

@defcon1africa676

2 жыл бұрын

He spins stories to suit his clever narrative

@widg3tswidgets416

2 жыл бұрын

Don't underestimate the power of something that makes it more difficult for you to be detected by the primary tool and weapon your opponent uses.

@locknload9143

2 жыл бұрын

So after 10 minutes and all said and done, it's NOT a "stealth buster"! What a waste of time.

@tommygun5038

2 жыл бұрын

The funny thing is nobody that has them has ever said that. Only countries that don't.

@Idahoguy10157

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommygun5038 … why would a country that has IRST equipped aircraft advertise how well it doesn’t work? They’d be be giving away info on limitations and advantages of their IRST

I really appreciate how this was structured. He explained the differences between IRST and radar, talking about the advantages and disadvantages of each one. By the end, I couldn’t tell which way he was biased, which is very refreshing after reading the news for too long.

@stigmautomata

2 жыл бұрын

I get the feeling that Covert Cabal's videos sometimes do the exact opposite of his intention, or what I think his intention is. He constantly proves or generally asserts that there was little purpose to XYZ military advancement, or laments the extreme cost of such advancements, but he also inspires "fear" for sake of dramatic effect that probably inspires his viewers to support FURTHER extreme costs.

@dat581

2 жыл бұрын

Really? His bias is quite obvious from the first minute of the video. He is biased towards the IRST in how he frames the argument and in what he leaves out. Firstly IRST must be cued by radar to find a target. If you use an IRST in wide area search mode the detection range massively drops to pretty much within visual range. Any further out and the sensor pixels out; that is the size of the target is smaller than a single pixel and thus cannot be detected. Without a radar to cue the sensor it is like searching by looking through a straw. What he also dishonestly leaves out is the range a stealth aircraft will detect a non stealth aircraft with radar is well over 100km and the maximum an IRST will detect a target at is about 44kn according to the video. He shoots down his own argument without knowing it. The other part of the IRST problem he leaves out is American stealth aircraft, including the F-35, have much lower IR signatures than the Russian or Chinese aircraft this joker claims will have no trouble detecting them. The F-35 has the EOTS system which is also an IRST and that will pick up the non-stealth aircraft at far greater range than the Russians will see the F-35. The video really is a load of garbage.

@TheDasHatti

2 жыл бұрын

@@stigmautomata Sorry, but i didnt feel "fear" after any of his vids. And i dont see support for a new developement, to get more fundings for.

@TheDasHatti

2 жыл бұрын

@@dat581 He never statet, that IRST is the solution to everything. And it is for everyone quite obvious, that an non-stealth-aircraft can be detected with radar from a much further distance. But what you didnt hear is, that it is a different if i can detect a stealthy thingy from 15km or from 44km. And he mentioned the EOTS. The point wasnt, who will get seen earlier. The point was, that IR compromises to some degree the stealth ability of aircrafts. Please tell me any other aircraft than the B2 that hides its exhausts from IR-sensors.

@dat581

2 жыл бұрын

@@TheDasHatti It seems you let him pull the wool over your eyes too. He states several times that IRST negates stealth and even had to tell his little conspiracy theory about an IRST detecting the F-117 with the Americans burying the report. The whole claim of this video is stealth is worthless against IRST which is completely false. Which other aircraft shield their IR signatures? Both the F-22 and F-35 do. Not to the same degree as the B-2 but measures were taken such as bypassing cool air around the engine and the external nozzle. By the way; aircrafts is not a word.

One thing to add is that IRST sensors have a very narrow field of view - it's somewhat like looking at the entire sky with a telescope: you will only see a small part of the sky at any one time. There are ways around this, but they do add cost and complexity. Still, it's well worth it. Part of the eternal game between move and counter-move.

@simplicius11

2 жыл бұрын

"OLS-UEM can detect & track air targets automatically. It consists of IR camera with matrix 320x256 and TV camera 640x480. Their cover is made from leucosapphire. The mirror scan the air space of +/-90 degrees horizontally and -15/+60 deg vertically. Target can be detected from 45 km...

@aeck2142

2 жыл бұрын

The exact same can be said for radar, the beam is only a few degrees wide. This is solved by scanning.

@JimCOsd55

2 жыл бұрын

@Oliver Mayo ... it’s not that simple, all an IR detector can tell you is there is heat source over there, it can’t tell you the range to the heats source, the speed of the heat source, the altitude of the heat source or the direction the heat source is moving. These are all things a missile needs to calculate a weapons grade track to intercept a moving target 50 km away!

@vodka4215

2 жыл бұрын

@@JimCOsd55 there's also the fact that Atmosphere interferes with the performance a lot which is reason why radar are somewhat superior

@JimCOsd55

2 жыл бұрын

@@vodka4215 ... exactly, the 50 km range of the Russian IRST is only on a good, clear day, humidity, rain or dust will degrade that range significantly while the F-35’s AN/APG-81 AESA radar can detect a plane with an RCS of 1 m2 at 160 km. Meaning it could lock on and launch an AMRAAM within it’s 65 km no escape zone, long before the Russian IRST will be able to detect it! Then there is its own Distributive Aperture System, DAS, essentially 6 IRST’s arranged around the plane and giving the pilots 360 degree coverage and not just one front facing ISRT as the Russian planes carry!??

We need to install NordVPN to our stealth aircraft to render Russian IRST useless... 😂🤣

@KondorDCS

2 жыл бұрын

They's just fire up their 60 year old long wavelength radars then...

@elusive7625

2 жыл бұрын

You need a brain first....which amerika lacks

@supremeflagship8965

2 жыл бұрын

@@elusive7625 Well you proved with your spelling, who is lacking in brain department...

@elusive7625

2 жыл бұрын

@@supremeflagship8965 typical amerikan!

@elusive7625

2 жыл бұрын

@@supremeflagship8965 you had to use spellcheck for "amerika".....? what an imbecile

Sensor fusion ftw!. Low frequency radar to find the presence of an aircraft. AESA to pinpoint the low observable aircraft IRST to do the terminal approach and kill. That is it guys, the Kill chain.

@VisibilityFoggy

2 жыл бұрын

If it's that easy, I guess the J-20 and Su-57 are both worthless?

@Padtedesco

2 жыл бұрын

@@VisibilityFoggy only against well defended enemies. But since the most of combat nowadays is against some insurgency, they will be valuable

@malokegames

2 жыл бұрын

That's exactly what the SU-57 does by sharing/fusing information with the S-400 network!

@wouldntyouliketoknow9891

2 жыл бұрын

Multisensor fusion is basically where its going. Don't forget visible light optics with AI based object identification. If it can drive a Tesla, it can damn sure tell the difference between a flare and an aircraft. We are near the end of the era of stealth.

@tommygun5038

2 жыл бұрын

@@wouldntyouliketoknow9891 ....Don't count on it.

I remember when this channel used to use the robot voice. Thank goodness this channel listened to the comments. This channel keeps getting better and better.

@MarineScoutSniper

2 жыл бұрын

Propaganda is awesome

@DonVigaDeFierro

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarineScoutSniper Did you even click play on the video?

IRST can be effective with the use of data links between multiple sensors to give range information....loyal wingmen with IRST flying to form a baseline can give that...not be dismissed lightly

@mikpik4017

2 жыл бұрын

True - which is why jamming the datalink between them becomes critical.

@aidegrod

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikpik4017 And also for stealth aircraft's pretty stupid idea. Cz u easy can determinate jamming direction, and triangulate general location.

@Nghilifa

2 жыл бұрын

@@mikpik4017 In future wars, satellites will probably be the first pieces of equipment to be taken off the table. No satellites, no Link 4/16, no GPS either.

@mikpik4017

2 жыл бұрын

@@aidegrod With 6th Generation airplane that will have 6 or 7 drones with it, then these will be so far apart from the central aircraft that missiles will go after 1 of such drones. And, maybe even 1 drone on purpose radiates fake radarwaves to attract any missiles. For example, then another drone can have a lowpower lowradius communication with the main aircraft and another drone has a normal radar, then 3 other drones could have an IRST for triangularition of enemy targets, a 4th could have a laser to shoot down any missiles, 5th and 6th could each have different frequency jamming pods, while 7th could have missiles on board.

@mikpik4017

2 жыл бұрын

@@Nghilifa Good point. Since the military knows that then they must have a backup plan whether it it much higher flying satellites or if drones can fill the void no matter if they can fly 30 hours without being refueled midair - or, if military already have developed drones with solarcells on the wings that can stay in the air for several years.

IRST not giving range data can be changed. Put two on an aircraft a few meters apart and simply triangulate. Or datalink them from two different aircraft.

@Herberberber

2 жыл бұрын

completely hypothetical

@stato350able

2 жыл бұрын

Laser range finder linked to IRST?

@chucknoris7648

2 жыл бұрын

The whole point of the F35 was to make that chain more complex. Think about it it’s like two infantrymen fighting a guy who takes the time to camouflage his face his helmet it takes a few seconds longer in combat to identify him.

@MarineScoutSniper

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂

@artruisjoew5473

2 жыл бұрын

Unless there are multiple targets, then you get more range possibilities than there are targets.

Send in the robot wingman first and have it saturate the area with hi heat emitting pod drones.

@beng7844

2 жыл бұрын

This assumes you’re ok with being sighted, but yeah this and chaff-bearing drones are always going to be a mainstay in the years to come

@danwelterweight4137

2 жыл бұрын

Except, each aircraft engine emits a specific heat signature. Once you capture it once and record it in your database you can easily distinguish it from the other ones. Furthermore, wingmen jets fly at much slower speeds than regular man jets and they also have a different heat and radar signature. IRST is just another tool in the Russian and Chinese inventories. That combined with their other sensors make stealth a not so groundbreaking advantage.

@thetooginator153

2 жыл бұрын

@Omar Khurshid - All an adversary has to do is have several IR sensors spaced apart (say, on the wingtips) and it’s simple trigonometry to determine speed, location, and distance. As Covert Cabal mentioned, IR is also passive, so, it’s impossible to spot and destroy IR detectors. And this assumes an adversary doesn’t have IR-detecting satellites. Lastly, IR detectors are REALLY cheap, and so are the computers that calculate the speed, position, and direction of a target.

@MarineScoutSniper

2 жыл бұрын

@@danwelterweight4137 😂😂. There is no specific heat signature😂😂😂😂😂

@thetooginator153

2 жыл бұрын

@Omar Khurshid - Good point about the missile needing feedback from the aircraft (I hadn’t thought of that). From what I’ve read, modern IR-guided missiles are very accurate. I think radar is better, but the gap between the technologies is pretty narrow these days. Also, as Covert Cabal pointed out, radar is not very effective against modern stealth aircraft. IMHO, he made an excellent point about how IR is pretty close to making radar invisibility useless. There’s just no way of masking an IR signature - but that may change in the future. Who knows?

A lot of aspects in reduction of IR signature was left out so i dont think its fair to say IRST is an stealth buster

@DonVigaDeFierro

2 жыл бұрын

It's definitely not. But I'm sure its capabilities are a secret because it still kinda works as intended.

Ofc IRST detecting f35 at 44km is still a lot stealthker than a f16 being detected by a radar at 100+km. It reduces, but fails to eliminate completely stealth advantages

@alexd5128

2 жыл бұрын

Totally agree. In wartime, being able to see the enemy first before they can see you mean firing the first shot - a crucial advantage! The last time I checked, the missiles carried by F35 have a range of much longer than 44KM.

@JETZcorp

2 жыл бұрын

@@alexd5128 Missile range is extremely variable. In a straight-up chest-beating joust, an AMRAAM is pretty effective at that range. If the fighter is caught low and slow (employing LGBs, for example), a missile shooting up or through thicker air may struggle to be dangerous even at 20km or less. Most of the time when 4th-gen fighters go against each other, they're mutually detected LONG before the missiles can close the distance. Even the F-14 with it's monster Phoenix missile typically had the target found minutes before it was time to shoot, unless the target was small and closing at mach 2.

@LRRPFco52

2 жыл бұрын

I did the math on various IRST sensors, and none of them provide any usable detection or tracking capabilities against F-35 at BVR. Best-case environmental conditions in extreme dry air over a desert was 24km for the Rafale’s OSF, which is a dual-band system, not single IR spectrum like OLS-35 and 101KS-V IRSTs. The premise of this whole video is uninformed as to IR spectrum signature reduction in VLO platforms.

@LRRPFco52

2 жыл бұрын

@@somebody700 Stealth provide total air dominance capability, which isn't a favorable exchange like legacy, but unfair overmatch in A2A. It's not just for strike. The paper talking about 45km is based on the assumption of radsr-slaving an IRST in narrow FOV on a supersonic TGT in perfect atmospheric conditions. How did the radar acquire the TGT to provide slaving to the IRST? Major failures abound in that paper.

@LRRPFco52

2 жыл бұрын

@@somebody700 There actually is. In every one of the over 500 intercepts executed by F-22As against Iranian and Syrian Air Forces, they came over guard frequency and talked with the F-4E, MiG, and Sukhoi pilots, had a little conversation about their choices in life, and the "threat" fighter pilots have always chosen to quickly go home. That includes intercepting ground-attack aircraft that made the mistake of trying to bomb US SOF units embedded with Kurds. It's such an unfair overmatch that Air Planners have not brought themselves to authorizing any splashing of enemy fighters from such a position of dominance. We could erase both of those Air forces on the same day if we wanted to, completely annihilate every single fighter and bomber they have in their inventories, and there's nothing they could do about it other than lash out with asymmetric and terrorist actions.

44 kilometers ( 27 miles) is an AWFUL range to be able to detect aircraft at and , like you said, is under optimal conditions. And it is heavily weather dependent

@DOSFS

2 жыл бұрын

Better than normal but still--------

@DonVigaDeFierro

2 жыл бұрын

It's weather dependent, but so are aircrafts.

@James-cb7nb

2 жыл бұрын

That's only if you know where to look. IRST has a very bad FoV and scan rate

@hamzamahmood9565

2 жыл бұрын

And that's for ground based IRST. The ones that can be installed on fighters have even smaller ranges. If stealth was this easy to bust almost every major power wouldn't be in a rush to develop it.

@aaronwhite1786

2 жыл бұрын

@SubtoPolecat324 People are acting like China and Russia aren't working on their own stealth aircraft. If China's throwing whatever advanced IRST technology they have, it's going to make it something that's much more advantageous to have when you've got two stealth aircraft hunting for each other. It's obviously not perfect, but at the same time, I'd much rather be in a stealth aircraft with it when fighting another stealth aircraft than fighting against one without it. It's possible that with IRST advancements and planes using super cruise that will further heat the entire body of the plane, they may become more useful when planes can't get radar locks until they're in closer ranges.

And the Eurofighter has the Pirate IRST system installed since it’s inception. Saab Gripen E is also fitted with the same system

@spartanx9293

2 жыл бұрын

Aircraft like the F-35 also have das a full spectrum irst

And yet, the only confirmed stealth kill so far was achieved with radar guided missile... F-117A shot down with 1960s Soviet SAM S-125 (AKA SA-3)...

@greattribulation1388

2 жыл бұрын

Though it was aaa?

@UnsungAces

2 жыл бұрын

@@greattribulation1388 no, they shot 2 missiles

@impguardwarhamer

2 жыл бұрын

because stealth fighters have seen sooo much air to air combat...

@greattribulation1388

2 жыл бұрын

@@impguardwarhamer well to be fair they’re not used that way. Mainly as attack. And there the conspiratorial “we don’t know if they have or not.”

@Snugggg

2 жыл бұрын

Yugoslavia right? If I recall correctly a big part of that was down to the complacent F-117 pilots flying the same route in and out of the target zone for weeks. thinking they were untouchable. The SAM guys knew exactly where to look and ambushed him.

Water and as a consequence, clouds, are very good IR absorbers. A good pilot would keep this in mind.

IRST does not beat stealth. But it is probably the best method out there besides radar "An IRST can detect aircraft at longer range (published figures) only when operating at its smallest FoV of 1° (narrow angle) but unlike a radar which can emit over a thousand beams a second, even the best IR sensors have a maximum scanning rate of 30 frames per second. So where a radar can perform a good quality volume search in tens of seconds, an IRST with 1° search cone will take several minutes even for a quick dirty search and tens of minutes for a good quality volume search. Because of this small FoV, the IRST face another major problem - they can only see a very small portion of the sky at a time. With 1° FoV you can only see a box that’s about 2 km wide even at a range of 100 km. So even if an IRST could somehow find a target - you’ve to choose between continue tracking that one target and thus, becoming blind to everybody else in the area or continue looking for others at the expense of loosing the target you just found. Because of these limitations it’s impractical to use IRST for scanning a large part of the sky and why IRST doesn’t really work well without external support/cued-search, especially at long ranges. This is ignoring the impact of atmospheric conditions on the IRST - they work best at night with little to no cloud cover. Since IR sensors work by detecting the contrast (temperature difference) between the object and background, something as little as cloud cover can ruin the day. Needless to say that neither Europe or the Pacific are ideal environment for IR sensors. All the while F-22 and F-35 can track you from much longer range and since they know exactly where you are - they can sneak in from angles that best hide their exhaust nozzle. Signature management is an important part of VLO aircraft and it’s much easier for 5th gen. aircraft to mask their IR signature than any 4th gen. aircraft." www.quora.com/Can-5th-generation-stealth-fighters-be-detected-with-infrared/answer/Abhirup-Sengupta-5?ch=10&oid=288426093&share=23a06a09&srid=nWkpi&target_type=answer

@jg3000

2 жыл бұрын

F-35 is not any better than 4th gen when it comes to IR signature.

@malokegames

2 жыл бұрын

If the F-22 and F-35 knows where you are, then the enemy knows too, so you have a narrow area to scan now... and they can know it with double the range because the waves must get back to the emmiter for complete detection. Those multiple scan frequencies techniques only fools older analogical RWR.

@James-cb7nb

2 жыл бұрын

@@jg3000 No. "Even in the front aspect, the engine face is the biggest contributor to the IR signature. Almost all twin-engine 4th gen. aircraft have their compressor fan blades and the hot core exposed from the front. Hiding them as in case of most 5th gen. aircraft with S-duct can drastically reduce the IR signature from the front - further reducing an IRST’s detection range. The point being, 5th gen. aircraft have an order of magnitude smaller IR signature than any 4th gen. aircraft, which significantly reduces the range where they could be detected by an IRST."

@jg3000

2 жыл бұрын

@@James-cb7nb F-35 has a big hot single engine. There is no way that big hot engine is hiding from an IRST. If IRST can track F-117. F-35 is no problem. F-22 would also be trackable. But the ducted afterburner lowers heat signature. Making F-22 give off lower IR signature than most jets. But higher than F-117 and B-2. Outside of maybe an electronic warfare attack or ideal weather for oscuring yourself. F-35 and F-22 aren't hiding from an IRST sensor.

@James-cb7nb

2 жыл бұрын

@@jg3000 that's why f22s and f35s do so bad at red flag ok buddy

At 44 kms you could already be detected by a "steath aircraft" well before that. Plus you still need a radar lock to fire most BVR radar guided missiles. When there are effective infra red guided BVR missiles the "Erst" would be very effective. At 44 kms you are getting close to being an Aim 120 magnet.

@AlenB29

Жыл бұрын

First of all no you wont be detected because aircraft radar points forwards not backwards so you can sneak up on them, there are many many long range IR missiles and they have already shot fighters like the F-18 down over long distances

Another well-researched & well-presented video. A little perspective in regards to an F-35 versus an IRST-equipped adversary: Though IRST can potentially detect an F-35 out to a hypothetical maximum distance of 44km, the F-35 can detect and engage air-to-air targets out to around 150km. So, an adversary likely would never get within the 44km IRST effective detection range because they'd be shot down well before they got that close. Also, IRST is negatively affected by clouds or high humidity, which decrease its effective detection range.

@user-bw6jg4ej2m

2 жыл бұрын

But IRST is fully passive and doesn't alert the target. And with radar as soon as you point the beam at a target, the target's radar warning receiver MIGHT pick it up, in which case they'll immediately know the type of your radar (and hence likely type of your aircraft), the bearing on you and the approx. range (based on signal strength). Detection range with radar is always smaller than the range at which the radar itself can be passively detected (assuming similar receiving hardware and processing). It's like you can see someone's flashlight from a mile away, but they themselves can't even see things 100 meters away with it. So, turning your radar on can give away your position long before you're in range to detect the other guy with your radar. That is unless you're operating some sort of Low Probability of Intercept radar, which tries to look like background noise in the "eyes" of enemy RWR, and might try to fool older RWRs. But with the modern ones, I guess it depends - I feel that there's a constant arms race between LPI radar and RWR technology. In the end, your best bet is to have friendly AWACS far behind your back detecting threats from far away and sending you the info via datalink, so that you can engage the threats without ever turning your radar on and risking giving away your position. Being stealty against radar can let you sneak close for a killshot, but only if you yourself aren't broadcasting your position.

@williamblaker2628

2 жыл бұрын

@@user-bw6jg4ej2m F-35 has fully passing scanning mode, too. And, it's much longer range than IRST.

@user-bw6jg4ej2m

2 жыл бұрын

@@williamblaker2628 Of course, but passive radar usually depends on the enemy giving their position away by turning their radar on. If they have their radar off, you're not gonna detect them passively. That is unless on F-35 they've actually perfected some sort of passive radar that looks not just for target's own emissions, but also third party signals (other radars, cellular towers, etc.) reflecting of a target. Tho, getting a decent signal to noise ratio like this is gonna be VERY difficult. Who knows, maybe we will see a future where fighter aircraft almost never use active radar and heavily rely on passive detection, with rare exceptions. Like with submarines.

Best military analysis channel ever.thank you.💪💪

Love all the videos you post. I think you definitely have real and quite accurate info behind your opinions and i love it all. Please don't stop making these awesome videos.

Russian IRST maximum range is less than 80km, i mean 60km to 80km heat detection is for very high IR signature aircraft like F-14, F-15, MiG-29, MiG-21, F-16, Mirage 2000 etc.

@GM-xk1nw

2 жыл бұрын

and can also be affected by weather conditions.

@thetopsecretpentagonsclass6350

2 жыл бұрын

@@GM-xk1nw definitely!!.

@danwelterweight4137

2 жыл бұрын

@@GM-xk1nw not modern the modern day ones. Their advancements in IRST can allow them to track aircraft at any weather conditions. Furthermore, their range is more like 90 KM. The truth is from that distance most fighter jets will not fire their BVR jets unless they are 100% certain thst the jets in front of them are enemy jets. Otherwise it is very easy to make a mistake and shoot down an commercial airliner. Even though a lot of warplanes have the capability to fire their missiles beyond that range they rarely ever do without 100% clear identification of the enemy forces. In the heat of battle it is very hard do. In a massive engagement where dozens or hundreds of fighter jets are fighting each other its even harder to do.

@grobbs666

2 жыл бұрын

Well it depends a lot on conditions like it says in video Rain snow clouds, whether you can see the aircrafts engines, whether its using afterburner, what kinda aircraft it is, and so on

@captainbutplak4344

2 жыл бұрын

@@danwelterweight4137 those are the modern day figures lmao

Great video i learned something today.I never knew what that thing on Russian jets was.

I think the US is beyond just developing an IRST pod, AFAIK the Lockheed Legion Pod has been in production since 2015 and has been spotted on F-15s in the last few years. I think it was slated for more widespread deployment in 2020 while the Super Hornet fuel tank sensor is supposedly entering operation around now. Lockheed has also started doing demonstrations of datalink capabilities for additional SA and features which will really unlock the potential of the sensor.

Top class info, Keep posting

You make it sound like we forgot about I.R. throughout the 80's & 90's. The FA18 had forward looking Infrared tracking throughout it's life span.

@trumanhw

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly -- aren't we watching alient re-runs from decades ago still ..? :)

Everyone who plays DCS in public servers can attest how dangerous an IRST can be. We've all been randomly deleted by a Flanker that no one knew was in the area. If the US had continued IRST development through the 4th gen and put AIM-9X seekers on the front of AMRAAM airframes (let's call it IRMRAAM), there would be blood in the streets.

2 videos in 5 days I’m psyched I love this channel

excellent video and explained comprehensively. Here's a sub

I've never heard about this before. Very interesting idea.

@raymondazadgoli5425

2 жыл бұрын

The likely reason it's not nearly as effective as this show insinuates. I like this channel allot but this is click bait. They don't even list the biggest reason that IRST is not very effective detecting fighters. You basically have to be pointing directly at the enemy, I'm horrible at describing this but imagine just taking a circle out if the sky- you can detect the fighter if it happens to be in that circle. The stealth fighter knows if your pointing right at him he's more detectable so he uses the fact that he saw you before saw him to adjust his approach vector. We've used this tactic since day one to overcome a multitude of different countermeasures. For example the plane is "most stealthy" from the front so if will continuously adjust to keep its front side towards the enemy. Also being able to detect a plane is a completely different and easier thing then locking onto - you have to know speed direction ect to send it a package. Show was also wrong about maximum detection in general, low frequency radar bands can detect stealth planes very far away but only provide size and shape. If your apponents combines low frequency with other types and your complacent you get what happened over Serbia. Anyway usually this channel is great just not on this topic. Also ask yourself- why would China and Russia be spending billions of dollars building there own stealth fighters if blank was true...

@kubajackiewicz2

2 жыл бұрын

@@raymondazadgoli5425 irst went beyond just forward pointing detection over 30 years ago, and the exact same issues apply to radars which also cover a limited cone

@Milvus_In_Excelsis

2 жыл бұрын

It's kinda a tunnel vision. Any stealth aircraft can see them from a hundred miles away, Change position and new outside of their scanning angles

@daviddobbs4679

2 жыл бұрын

@@kubajackiewicz2 IRST hasn't gone beyond off bore detection it's just gotten incrementally better. The further off front you get the more range degrades until it disappears. IRST has progressed enough to be a decent short range system for when you can't turn your radar on or to detect stealth- Just not as fast as munitions have progressed. The max effective range in perfect conditions is half the range of an AIM-120, and in real world conditions is pobably inside even modern sidewinder range

@militavia-air-defense-aircraft

2 жыл бұрын

@@raymondazadgoli5425 This channel is way too many times have totally false conception about things... Sadly.

It seems you forgot the most important disadvantage- IRST cannot give you range to a target. that's why the best way to use it is as part of sensor fusion like in the F-35. the IRST will detect the light/heat source, than the radar will give additional information- range speed etc. Also worth mention- 5th gen fighters with AESA radar have LPI capability (low probability intercept)

@heinrichb

2 жыл бұрын

8:41 the range point is addressed though

Thank you. I really learned something.

Another amazing video! Keep up the great work!

You forget to mention the F-35 was actually built with IRST countermeasures and designs in mind

You can track and lock on to a stealth aircraft if you've Nord Vpn on your phone

@roderickcampbell2105

2 жыл бұрын

Hi, EmmyE. Agreed. I do it (track stealth) all the time and I don't even have Nord VPN.

@emmy.eyoung8076

2 жыл бұрын

@@roderickcampbell2105 You got an inbuilt VPN

Thanks, I was thinking before what is that circular thing on the su-30 in my country.

A couple of years ago I saw near a base in town that has F-18 station there an F-22 flying relatively at low altitudes and at low speed.. that plane is so well deigned that it became at one point almost impossible to see, I literally last track of it with my eyes. It's the most impressive thing I have observed concerning military tech. Second is the Osprey taking off. Very cool stuff, very bright engineeres.

This is old news, new technology is constantly being developed and counter measures are constantly being developed; it never ends. The French Rafales using their Optronique Secteur Fontal (OSF) electro-optical/infrared search and track systems (IRST) can detect the F-22. The German Luftwaffe Euro fighter Typhoon can detect the F-22 using their Euro-FIRST PIRATE infrared search and track system (IRST). According to Sukhoi, the Su-35’s infrared sensor OLS-35 is not as capable as the Euro-FIRST PIRATE, but it is a decent sensor based on their sales brochure on the Su-35. The US and its allies routinely conduct training exercise to establish each other’s capabilities and counter measures. The IRST could detect a stealth fighter via their heat signature, but it isn't accurate enough to lock a missile against them because the IRST has a narrow view and it would be like looking in the sky through a soda straw for a fighter traveling at supersonic speeds. The F-22 has trained using counter measures against IRST fighters. They would be constantly maneuvering and not exposing heated areas while using its Low-Probability-of-Intercept radar (LPIR) to evade an enemy with IRST while getting in a missile firing position. The F-22 would be maneuvering using it super cruise ability quickly without using afterburner. The major drawback for the IRST is its limited field of vision; IR missiles counter measures are flares and quick maneuvering to break IR lock. The F-117 Nighthawk was retired because it wasn’t fast or maneuverable against newer detection systems.

@jansonvocmf

2 жыл бұрын

The field of vision is a serious disadvantage which should have been more highlighted in the video. You can detect a stealth fighter if you know where in the sky to look for it. Great post, sir.

@reecom9884

2 жыл бұрын

@@jansonvocmf Some countries are using IRST for ground attack. It’s harder and more complex in the algorithm because the ground and other objects are heat sources. The Russians mount their IRST for air combat, since the algorithm to detect heat sources against a cold sky is easier. Technology never stands still, it’s always advancing. The F-22 Raptor first entered service in December 2005 and is reaching its structural service life and will have to be retired within the next decade or so.

Tell that to the F-22 with it's rectangular exhaust nozzle design, which the F35 doesn't even use to do expense, meant to reduce thermals. One of the reasons the F22 itself doesn't even have IRST. They never even gave it a pod for it, since it can be spoofed easier then GPS.

@TT-hd3zi

2 жыл бұрын

A large portion of heat comes from friction on the surface of the aircraft. How can IR imaging be spoofed?

@ka-50withsaams36

2 жыл бұрын

@@TT-hd3zi Magic

@DonVigaDeFierro

2 жыл бұрын

I'm kinda sure that thrust vectoring just disperses heat on a wider area.

@f1reguy587

2 жыл бұрын

I’d say the sensitivity of thermal would be capable of catching heat from the thrusters, at big ranges, since thermal is all about temperature differences between ambient and actual surface temp, but the way forwards would be a signature based around sound or air pressure,

@allenwalker9928

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like you took it as a truth when your physics teacher said take friction due to air negligible

Great information!

Good to know . . Many thanks

even on a good clear day, looking for an F-22 in the open skies with IRST is like looking through a drinking straw the IRST field of regard is quite small... and it's much much harder to perform a wide sector scan in a way that a radar can

I Love these Videos TBH💙💙💙

Early migs 29 and su27 IRST had only 30-35km range vs fighter aircraft. They were mainly designed to be used with ground control, where the aircraft would not use its radar but be guided to target by ground controllers.

Need to do a video comparison between this and the DAS system combined with the EOTS on the F-35. It searches and tracks in any direction. They can track from much longer ranges.

Ok yes, but as you explained it doesn't give you targeting data, like range, heading, speed, and is wildly dependant on weather conditions. Also as you stated stealth will be spotted at 44 km but stealth spotted you between 100-400 km away. So.... you probably won't be around to detect it at 44 km.

@grobbs666

2 жыл бұрын

Unless it's put on a stealth aircraft as he said. J20 won't be detected at 100km away, so it with irst is real valuable

@tomusmc1993

2 жыл бұрын

@@grobbs666 I don't disagree, but the tone and implication of the video is that IRST invalidates stealth or at a minimum degrades it to the point if questioning its value. I agree that IRST is a must. Heck, MiG29s had them back in the 80s. I am at a loss why we allowed that technology to not be used and improved.

@grobbs666

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomusmc1993 true. I think some of it was politics/bureaucracy. We see that all the time. Like "ships work, let's just build more ships", or "aircraft carriers are ultimate sign of naval power, so we should build more." Obviously those are much larger than something small like a sensor, but still shows it's hard to shift the course of something as large as US military. Maybe aircraft carriers aren't the best weapon for the future, or maybe radar isn't the best/only sensor we need in today's world. But try explaining that to senators. Or more cynically, government officials who gain from continuing to build aircraft carriers in their district, or companies who might lose out if we switched to different technologies/weapons that they might not be able to build.

Millénium 7* goes way more into the details on the subject

@dongately2817

2 жыл бұрын

That channel is awesome when it comes to detail. I'm glad its starting to blow up.

No one's ever walked in on me, call me a stealth buster too.

I forgot which channel i saw it on but radar is like a flashlight in the dark, it helps you see, but people can see you using it too. IRST is like NVG, it helps you see and no one can see you using it. It was some DCS video using the R-27T because it helps get the jump on people.

You need to have it pointed on a specific spot

The Sniper Pod is an infrared system. We have the same concepts. I'm not sure if the Russian IR is better, but this is nothing new for us.

@LRRPFco52

2 жыл бұрын

They’ve used SNIPER and LITENING pods to try to detect and track F-22As and JSF in Large Force Exercises for many years now. Doesn’t work out well at all, lucky to get WVR hit after they’ve already been killed 15 different ways well before. IR stealth is a thing. It’s one of the main requirements for ATF and JSF, as well as ATB (B-2A), and HAVE BLUE/SENIOR TREND.

@anttisyrjanen4494

2 жыл бұрын

@@LRRPFco52 IRST is not comparable to FLIR and FLIR is not comparable to IRST. IRST is scanning sensor and FLIR is hig resolution "IR-camera" like equipment. F18E Block III uses both FLIR and IRST pods.

@LRRPFco52

2 жыл бұрын

@@anttisyrjanen4494 I'm well aware of the differences. With the tactical exploitation focusing on IR sensor capabilities, they had F-22s and later F-35s push RF using the Luneberg lenses so they could radar-slave the FLIR pods. The signatures didn't show up until they were WVR. Now look at F-35 multi-wavelength EOTS fused with DAS. They can't see each other with those, as reported in the Heritage Foundation anonymous interviews of 31 F-35A pilots who mostly came from 4th Gen fighters, 1 from F-22A. Any legacy IRST system is effectively worthless against JSF.

@LRRPFco52

2 жыл бұрын

@@anttisyrjanen4494 I was surrounded by test pilots, engineers, technicians, and program managers developing advanced FLIR systems for the F-16C Block 40 and F-15E in the mid 1980s into the early 1990s, at the Air Force Flight Test Center. Prior to that, we had worked in a scientific exchange program with NATO partners developing what became the Typhoon. I've spent a good portion of my life studying IRSTs and FLIR sensors with closed community resources available to me.

Great video, as usual. 👍

At night could be an advantage, or if being chased by behind, but at several decenes miles away at day time it's much difficult.

IRST only matters if you know the direction the stealth fighter is coming from in the first place, right?

@MavHunter20XX

2 жыл бұрын

If you're detecting a stealth fighter in the first place, it wouldn't matter which direction its going. You'd be able to track it.

@ro_5907

2 жыл бұрын

Thats why it has a search and track on its name duh

@malokegames

2 жыл бұрын

That's with radars. With IRST is the opposite, you can detect early where the figther is coming from with it. After that you can focus your radar emissions into that direction instead of spreading it throught wide angles, thus raising the radar's detection distance.

@virginccyy7645

2 жыл бұрын

ITST doesnt work like that, it has a very small and narrow focus. It's like looking at 2 inch areas in 60 inch view and at best it can detect a regular fighter at 40-50km. An engine exhaust that's curtailed maybe half of that if you point at one of the 34 areas within a few seconds and get lucky you might detect an F35:at 25km. Maybe.

2:21 to skip ad

Thinking that either IR or RADAR is better would lead to a falsehood of using only one…

In order for IRST to work, they need to have the aircraft in the air. By that time, the F-35 would already have them locked up and attacked. The F-35 can detect a fighter at well over 100 miles and missiles can lock on at 90 miles. The planes would already know there’s an F-35 in the area by the time IRST detects it. It may already be dead by the time it knows it’s under attack since the response time to the first missile would be very small. The first step to defending a missile is knowing approximately when your opponent most likely fired. You can’t do that from a stealth plane.

@PeterbFree

2 жыл бұрын

True, but not when it comes to penetrating Russian airspace. They will know the F35 is airborne long before it enters their airspace and they will have multiple defence systems waiting for it by the time it arrives

I Should have known about this sooner. Infrared Sensors are largely the argument in the Sci Fi community for why it's impossible to build a stealth spacecraft.

I did an analysis and cross-check of that paper at 6:21 several years ago, which had a lot of incorrect assumptions in it. I applied known real-world imagery from the Rafale OSF vs F-22A in both military power and afterburner that the French published somehow, which were very low-contrast targets for the Rafale’s dual-band OSF IRST/Digital TV imaging system. I built a graph showing the expected practical performance of OLS-35, 101KS-V, OSF, and PIRATE across varying conditions. The actual numbers across all of the altitude bands and weather/atmospheric conditions basically meant you might get an IRST hit on the edge of visual range against a 5th Gen IR signature VLO platform like the F-22A or any of the JSF. That means you were already dead minutes prior to that best-case detection range and sensor window. You can increase the detection range if they go supersonic and stupidly approach you without employing their weapons, while flying straight down your IRST field of regard. With a frontal aspect supersonic F-22A or JSF flying over a cloudless desert in the middle of July, you might see that 44km detection range, which is 23.8nm. So now you have to explain why a VLO platform would purposely throw away its VLO characteristics and march headlong at supersonic speed into your IRST field of regard. They have threat sensor emulators that show what areas to stay out of from the threat library, so they’re just going to work around you if needed. Not sure why they would do that when they can set you up for unfair NEZ parameters using a totally different set of tactics that isn’t available to 4.5 Gen fighters.

The LM Legion IRST pod has been used on f15/16 since 2018

Good analysis...

Its like the stealth aircraft will sit on their hands doing nothing while you detect them at range. Nowadays stealth aircraft also have at its disposition their sensors, long range weapons and high kinematic performance. You may be able to detect a F-22 with IRST at 40km, but... if you do that you can be sure an AIM-120D is already on its way towards you.

@fingerprint8479

2 жыл бұрын

Not likely if you cannot detect your opposition at this distance! No radar no tracking!

@92HazelMocha

2 жыл бұрын

The US fields no long range air to air missiles, the F22 is being retired, and the F35 has terrible kinematic performance, subpar for even 4th Gen aircraft.

@zoka7108

2 жыл бұрын

Still much better than being completely blind.

@SpecialistBR

2 жыл бұрын

@@92HazelMocha Ok Russian bot :)

@92HazelMocha

2 жыл бұрын

@@SpecialistBR Oh did a basic Google search prove you wrong?

By the time you detected heat signature with this, its already too late because youre detecting AMRAAM coming towards you, not enemy jets.

@iumbo1234

2 жыл бұрын

It depends, if both are stealthy the one with the IRST will see the other before their radars notice each other.

Its also interesting the F35 IR related photo is used. In fact that photos shows how cool that aircraft is if you look at it with a wider view of what its showing you. Dont look at the obvious vertical heat plume. Thats a red herring.

Always enjoy your irstwhile commentary

3:27: Technically, that is a GAR-8, not an AIM-9, but still.

There is more involved in defeating stealth. First, you need to know where to point the IRST. Otherwise, you're counting on luck. IRST can not direct radar guided missiles to a target. Thus, even if IRST detects a stealth aircraft, the missile would still be unable to guide itself. Infra red missiles have shorter range requiring a close in fight. Meanwhile, the video states IRST having a detection range of 44km. The 5th gen stealth aircraft, using radar, would have detected the non stealth aircraft 100km before that and fired it's radar guided missiles soon after. There are similiar detection issues for ground based defenses. By the time 5th gen is within detection range of ground based IRST or radar, the aircraft has already been within it's own weapons deployment envelope for a considerable time.

@TT-hd3zi

2 жыл бұрын

Why can’t IRST be used to direct a radar guided missile?

@hamzamahmood9565

2 жыл бұрын

@@TT-hd3zi It's not precise and can be easily misled with flares

@bigboybandito3214

2 жыл бұрын

@@TT-hd3zi iirc one reason is bc IRST alone cant find the range of a target, which is needed for a radar guided missile

@TT-hd3zi

2 жыл бұрын

@@hamzamahmood9565 misled how? Do you realise modern IR creates an image of what it sees in front of it, rather than just following the hottest target? And they’re also very precise.

@TT-hd3zi

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigboybandito3214 sure, but you can fire a missile down the bearing of the target without needing its range.

Only in combat with another aircraft, under decent conditions. Meaning, the enemy jets have to have some reason to aim in your direction, otherwise, if you have the means to passively scan from a massive radar like an awacs would have, you can maneuver past enemy fighters on patrol, or ambush them. Stealth takes a tool from the other guy's toolbox. Which can come in handy, in a variety of ways.

This channel deserves more subscribers

This is grossly misleading. In actual fact, IRST remains almost completely useless in ANY kind of moisture-laden environment (whereas that barely affects radar at all), and that is a huge factor in certain parts of the world (especially Europe, particularly at any time except summer). In addition, while it s true that under ideal conditions an IRST can pick up a VLO (stealth) design at longer ranges than radar, it is STILL a fact that the stealth fighter's radar (and/or passive ESM) will not only pick up the IRST aircraft at far greater ranges, but likely will destroy it before the IRST can even pick up anything (especially when you take into account the IR reduction measures found on all stealth designs). Bottom line: it's better than nothing, but nowhere close to a "stealth buster."

@Joe_Friday

2 жыл бұрын

I pray your assertion is correct!

@KRGruner

2 жыл бұрын

@@Joe_Friday It is. Why do you think everyone nd their brother wants to buy or develop their own stealth fighter these days? You have to laugh when it's the very same people telling you IRST can beat stealth. Make up your mind!

The cat and mouse arms race continuous with rock, paper and scissors. No tech is perfect alone. It's how you combine tech together and how you wield it that counts.

If only the development teams on HAVE BLUE, F-117A, B-2A, ATF, and JSF had thought about IR signature reduction. Oh wait, that was a key requirement on all of those programs.

A very informative video.

"Aerogel" defeats IRST from friction caused by glidebombs. At just 1 mm thickness, it prevents 600 degrees celsous to go thru the other side since its 99.8% air. So a perfect coating for glidebombs. Could be combined with cooling surfaces to ambient temperatures as tank has done for years to blend in with surroundings. Can be done with peltier elements for spot cooling.

@WetaMantis

2 жыл бұрын

Aerogel is incredibly fragile and delicate.

Even at 44 KM is pretty useful when Stealthfighters can just drop glidebombs at 250 KM away, that IRST cannot detect at all because...there is no engine.

@danwelterweight4137

2 жыл бұрын

If You don't think those glid bombs flying 250 km through the cold air at high speed will not create any friction and heat in the cold air I got a bridge to sell you and a whole fleet of used cars that come along with it.

@krismaturker6709

2 жыл бұрын

Radiowave saturation detection can detect it

@bigvaxmeanie925

2 жыл бұрын

@@danwelterweight4137 you detected multiple gluide bombs...what do you do now?

@Userext47

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigvaxmeanie925 aren't glidebombs for ground targets? How is this even relevant to airsuperiority? You can launch ballistic missiles to hit ground targets, the problem isn't range. F-35 is more stealthy than F-22. If F-35 gets detected at 44km, F-22 would get detected further out.

@argy007

2 жыл бұрын

@@bigvaxmeanie925 Inform the ground based anti-air teams of incoming glide bombs, so that they would know where they are coming from and when to expect them.

I've heard from the a website that was made by the same guys who developed the F-14 program that says had the super tomcat and the ST21 ( Super tomcat 21) been developed further it would be able to track 5 gen fighters by this same feature due to engine heat

"Predator" movie with Schwarezenegger in 1988 showed how defeat IRST...cool yourself down to surrounding temperature - whether its mud or an active cooling system or a highly insulated layer. IRST can be defeated quite easily.

@danwelterweight4137

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah great idea. Let's cover our fighter jets with truck loads of mud. What about the hot air coming out of the engines. What is the mud going to do about the hot air coming out of the engines? Did you not watch the video?

@pashapasovski5860

2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha a genius is born

@captaindak5119

2 жыл бұрын

@@danwelterweight4137 it's almost as if some comments are but hurt that radar isn't the only thing to worry about and that stealth aircraft aren't magic. He never suggested that IRST is a magic bullet. He stated that weather can significantly reduce it range. He is saying that it could be useful in certain circumstances.

@mikpik4017

2 жыл бұрын

@@danwelterweight4137 The video is flawed since stealth airplanes have their engines on top of the wings thereby making then invisible from groundbased and lowerflying IRST. In addition, most of the air sucked into an engine is actually directed outside the engine chamber, thereby further cooling down the exhaust. The exhaust is made very wide in order to further reduce temperature.

Not true that the hot exhaust "is easily seen on stealth air planes" because: 1) That is the very reason WHY the engines are put on TOP of the gigantic wings - and buried deep inside the wings. 2) The exhaust area is specifically made very wide in order blend cold air with the hotter air exhaust to cool it down to defeat IRST. And, all this goes on on the TOP of the wings therefore cannot be detected by groundbased IRST and not by lowerflying enemy aircraft with IRST. 3) Stealth aircraft doea not use afterburners at all and therefore the temperature of the exhaust is much lower to begin with. 4) The engines not only sucks in air into the engine but also to the OUTSIDE of the engine, which cool air further reduce the temperature of the exhaust air. By sucking in more air AROUND the engine the cooler the exhaust gets.

@faustin289

2 жыл бұрын

This whole thing about "cool exhaust air" isn't compatible with how a jet engine works. The mechanism of a jet engine works on the premise of ejecting fast moving gases backwards. The hotter the gases, the faster they move, the better the engine performs.

@deven6518

2 жыл бұрын

It doesn't matter how much you do, they very method of a jet engine requires the expansion of air by heating to provide forward thrust. If it was cool enough to be undetectable, the engine would produce only the thrust provided by the throughput of ambient air, which is to say not enough to keep the aircraft in the sky. Regardless of how much you mix the air (b2 and I'm assuming it's drone counterpart), there's still a trail of superheated air in the sky. Also take into account that during flight, the outside of a plane will get hit enough to burn your hand if it's travelling near or above the speed of sound while the surrounding air is cold enough to frost up static objects. That's a pretty big temperature gap. Against infrared, the most stealthy thing is a turboprop, it's not very fast, not alot of heat.

Your giving IRST way to much value lol. It's just one tool In the chestbox. Obviously radar range is twice if not more than infra red. Which means radar will always have the first chance of detecting aircraft. But as you stated, Radar can be jammed. It's a combination of systems, not just one.... Edit. You also forgot to mention that F35 has D.A.S along side EOTS. Which basically is IRST with 360 degree coverage. Versus just Forward Facing. I like channels like this because it provides a window into a different mindset's of thinking ( Buyest or Not ).

@jaroslavzaruba2765

2 жыл бұрын

it is made very clear in the video IRST has its limitations you reek of fanboyism

@awildpanther2031

2 жыл бұрын

u seem like the type of guy to go into every comment section and defend the F-35 like it's your personal crusade also u misspelled biased plus you contradicted your own statement on how radar can be jammed and the reason IRST is great against stealth aircraft is that stealth fighters have a very low radar cross section so its very hard to detect them so thats where IRST comes in

@tommygun5038

2 жыл бұрын

@@awildpanther2031 ......Believe me the F35 can defend itself.

@JackRABBITslim27

2 жыл бұрын

@@awildpanther2031 Oh snap! Ya caught me just like the IRST. Good job lol

@awildpanther2031

2 жыл бұрын

@@tommygun5038 not very well especially against something like a flanker or even other 4th gen US fighters

Great description of IR and the role of different sensor types. But even with IR in play, the stealth plane should still detect and lock on to the non-stealth plane first. IR is certainly useful, but it hardly negates stealth: it just pushes back the distance of stealth a bit.

Active radar can give one's position far away quickly while IRST is passive but short range. Passive radar might be the best compromise between the two.

Welp, we now know why stealth aircraft arnt that special in the Ace combat universe now.

Being able to see an enemy playing is pretty worthless if you can't track it and target it. the US has never claimed that their stealth planes are invisible, just that they're very very difficult to hit with a weapon.

@saviobiogen9914

2 жыл бұрын

Powers like Russia or China have no problem to hit them. Only small countries are helpless against stealth.

@MarineScoutSniper

2 жыл бұрын

@@saviobiogen9914 The F35’s are flying over Russia and China every day 😂

@saviobiogen9914

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarineScoutSniper I think this is the most retarded comment I have seen this year. F35 can fly over Russia and China only in holywood movies. ;)

@KBail7579

2 жыл бұрын

@@MarineScoutSniper Yes buddy! There is 1 F35 that VTOLed on my lawn and is currently mowing it undetected.

@MarineScoutSniper

2 жыл бұрын

@@KBail7579 😂

Wow a new name for FLIR geese. FLIR or forward looking infrared has been a mainstay of fighter aircraft since the 80's.

I there was a way to get a financially viable endothermic fuel that decomposes into smaller particles (like what hydrocarbons do when the break apart) might be possible to supplement or even replace traditional systems to lower infra-red heat signatures. Not sure how you'd fix the skin friction problem (maybe some sort of skin layer cooling system, I doubt it'd be practical or cost effective).

It's like Uncle Sam built a billion dollar Laser, and the Bear came up with a mirror.

@VisibilityFoggy

2 жыл бұрын

Except the bear is also building lasers himself...

Thank you biden. I went out and spent 300 bucks on groceries and came home with a bushel of bananas and a Twix bar...

@bosanski_Cevap

2 жыл бұрын

Noway you paid 300$ for some bananas and a Twix bar. Yes, the prices increased massively but we aren't in the Weimar Republic in 1930

Great video!

Another excellent video

Lmao a simple inferred, beats a billion dollar stealth plane.

@akaegotist

2 жыл бұрын

Infrared*

@gotdayum97

2 жыл бұрын

Not really. The issue with IRST is it can be easily tricked, and has terrible range. By the time a fighter with IRST saw a stealth fighter with an AESA radar the fighter relying on IRST would have seen and shot it down. Hence why IRST wasn't important for the US and why even the F22 doesnt have it

@r.p5380

2 жыл бұрын

@@gotdayum97 Russian planes are now being modernised with AESA and as such, within 5 years America will lose one of its main air advantages

@Hexigonic

2 жыл бұрын

@@r.p5380 That's assuming America does LITERALLY NOTHING in that timeframe

@TT-hd3zi

2 жыл бұрын

@@r.p5380 AESA doesn’t instantly mean it’s a good radar… You can make an AESA radar using consumer electronics and tin cans.

Haven’t watched video but yeah it's gonna be good

8:08 "Su-57 has typical IRST system" Su-57 has huge set of optical systems integrated in 101KS system. Frontal IRST is one of the parts of this system. 8:16 "IRST cannot be jammed" It can be jammed by laser DIRCM. There are two of them on Su-57 (101KS-O)

@Snugggg

2 жыл бұрын

aren't the "eyes" on the T90 basically IR jammers?

Great video.

I don't see where you're coming from. The f22 and f35 have lowered heat signature for exactly this(IR sensors be it from aircraft or missiles) Don't get me wrong IRST is super strong in some situations but it has MASSIVE advantages :no ranging and speed knowledge and unreliable with weather conditions. IIRC aircraft radar can detect the F22 at 20km and IRST at 35km(and 35km is FAR Far too close) yes IRST is strong with aircraft but it's a whole different story with ground and ship radar, they (for the most part) don't have space constraints and can be much much more effective then IRST. TL:DR yes IRST is better then radar (in aircraft) but that absolutely does not mean stealth is obsolete. I absolutely love your chanel but I feel this is a bit of a click bait video.

Bistatic/multistatic radar can also track stealth targets.

I wouldn't negate stealth too much. Arial combat is a thing, so the video is awesome in explaining that, but ground detection is usually used to direct and interceptors first. So like the video says at the end, a bit of everything is key.

If both jets are stealthy they are going to end up dogfighting anyway. Just make Mig-21 stealthy and don't waste money like F-35.

@malokegames

2 жыл бұрын

That's probably why the russians still enfatizes dogfigting capabilities... both because of stealth and eletronic warfare. The stealth figthers will avoid getting closer due to inferior hability on this field, so they would either avoid confrontation or end up getting at closer ranges.

@RANDO4743

2 жыл бұрын

Missles that can shoot off bore make dog fighting an obsolete way to engage,you don't need to point your nose in the direction of your adversary to actually hit your opponent anymore this isn't ww2.

@malokegames

2 жыл бұрын

@@RANDO4743 off bore doesnt means 360 degrees at short ranges. And with 3D vectored thrust you can point at any direction and shoot effectively even at close range. This isn't star wars.

@ChucksSEADnDEAD

2 жыл бұрын

The MiG-21 was shot down like it was a sport.

That was awesome.

Its funny that we go full circle in areal combat: Using clouds to hide (this time from IRST and not from the naked eye)

IRST systems have a place for fighters and small planes. What I'm saying is that a radar is a complex system that is hard to mount. The IRST though, is smaller and can be fitted in small planes, for early warning and tracking.