The biggest leap in stealth tech since the F-117

Stealth fighters are widely seen as the pinnacle of modern tactical aviation technology. But in terms of both sheer performance and operating cost, they often fall short of older, more dated platforms like the F-15 Eagle, F-16 Fighting Falcon, and Su-35 Flanker-E.
While fighter design is an incredibly complex process, a fair portion of the blame for both underwhelming performance figures and seemingly untenable operating costs can actually be attributed to a single technology: Radar Absorbing Materials, or RAM. But that's all about to change.
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Further Reading:
Adding stealth to 4th gen fighters: www.sandboxx.us/blog/how-much...
Radar Absorbing Materials: www.sandboxx.us/blog/what-are...
Why the F-35 is so expensive: www.sandboxx.us/blog/what-wen...
Why stealth is so hard: www.sandboxx.us/blog/why-is-i...
China's real defense spending: www.sandboxx.us/blog/how-does...
Citations:
“Introduction to Aerospace Materials” - www.sciencedirect.com/topics/...
Ram absorption rates: news.ncsu.edu/2021/05/tougher...
RAM maintenance: www.hill.af.mil/News/Article-D...
F-35 sustainment costs: www.gao.gov/products/gao-21-439
RAM temperature limits: www.asminternational.org/web/...
F-35 Flutter Tests: www.defensenews.com/air/2019/...
Cheryl Xu: www.mae.ncsu.edu/people/cxu-r...
Ceramic Ram paper: pubs.acs.org/doi/10.1021/acsa...
Cheryl Xu quote: www.jeccomposites.com/about-j...

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  • @SparkBerry
    @SparkBerry Жыл бұрын

    It's crazy how fighter aircraft maintenance is overlooked by the man on the street. It's takes a couple hundred hours to train a pilot, yet it takes thousands to train a technician. There's one pilot per plane, there are many techs per plane. It ain't the glory job, but a well trained mechanic is as important as any pilot.

  • @justachipn3039

    @justachipn3039

    Жыл бұрын

    👍👍

  • @defective6811

    @defective6811

    Жыл бұрын

    hear hear. _always_ get in good with your logistics guys was the golden rule for my 1s Sergeant back in the airborne. Maybe you can fight, kid, (he would say) but how you gonna get your bullets and food to do it?

  • @gm2353

    @gm2353

    Жыл бұрын

    You're correct for part of it. I think you're simplifying the training of fighter pilots. You're leaving out the college degree, training aircraft, and much more. But either way that aircraft isn't doing anything without the ground crew or the pilot. It's also not really crazy at all. That the average person on the street to over look the ground crew. Or to even want to know the significance of the role they play. It would be like the average person paying attention. To all the behind the scenes people involved in your favorite music album. Sound engineers, producers, managers, ect. Or the same reason there isn't a movie about Chris Kyle's spotter. A spotter is just as critical as the who's on the rifle.

  • @janemf

    @janemf

    Жыл бұрын

    Are you serious?

  • @Sethgolas

    @Sethgolas

    Жыл бұрын

    A fighter pilot needs a thousands of hours. And those thousands of hours have to be supported by ten to twenty times the number of technician hours.

  • @eddyaruda486
    @eddyaruda486 Жыл бұрын

    I used to work in Aerospace. Your content is original, educational, and the best on the subject I've seen so far. Thank you for your excellent content!

  • @alexdunphy3716

    @alexdunphy3716

    Жыл бұрын

    Look up millennium7*, he is better

  • @Kenny-yl9pc

    @Kenny-yl9pc

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexdunphy3716 No he is not "better"! They both are different in their approach but very much entertaining nontheless. So stop that childish silly game of who is better!

  • @wpnexp336

    @wpnexp336

    Жыл бұрын

    @@alexdunphy3716 Not, guys a hack promoting Russian equipment which never stands up as advertised.

  • @newguy954

    @newguy954

    Жыл бұрын

    @@wpnexp336 he has one video dedicated to su-57 and that is it,the rest of the videos are about the f-35,j-20,fc-31 and several other jets like the recently upgraded j-11 which he claims is the best flanker variant.

  • @jimnaz5267

    @jimnaz5267

    Жыл бұрын

    the SR71 and A2 were low observable aircraft flying at Mach 3 more than 30 years ago.

  • @pastorrich7436
    @pastorrich7436 Жыл бұрын

    The problem of the maintenance of coatings is an old story. Another Lockheed fighter was subject to the same issue leading into World War II. The Lockheed F-4 Lightning was the recipient of a special paint known as Cabot or Haze Paint. This paint was equally difficult to apply and maintain and subject to wear. Efforts to improve upon this yielded what was called Synthetic Haze paint which saw limited service on the F-5. In the end, the AAF switched to simply painting their photo-reconnaissance Lightnings with RAF PRU Blue which was often scrubbed off by ground crews to reduce the weight of the aircraft at the squadron level. Haze paint was such a problem that the AAF decided it was better to simply Shadow Shade paint their F-4 and early F-5 Lightnings in olive drab over grey. In the case of our squadron, 34th Photo Reconnaissance Squadron, all of our F-5's were stripped at some point to natural metal. A very messy job! So coatings to help hide and obscure aircraft are an old issue and one which Lockheed has dealt with before. It makes one wonder if the Lightning II was intended to receive a new type of coating in the future as part of its modular design? I certainly hope so! Thanks for the excellent reporting and safe travels!

  • @dasch0und

    @dasch0und

    Жыл бұрын

    f4 lightning? aint it the p38 lightning?

  • @pastorrich7436

    @pastorrich7436

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dasch0und in this time “P” denoted pursuit while “F” denoted photo reconnaissance. Lockheed Lightning fighters were P-38 while the reconnaissance variants were F-4 and F-5 depending on the model.

  • @dasch0und

    @dasch0und

    Жыл бұрын

    @@pastorrich7436 I cant seem to find this prototype anywhere thats why i was asking if possible can you link me a video or a image? aviation has been my passion since early ages learn a new one would be a pleasure tho even tho is just a variant i would love to see the difference between them

  • @TheJBerg

    @TheJBerg

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dasch0und I Bing searched "F-4 Lightning" and got rewarded with a boat load of WW2 photos of p-38 looking but definitely altered aircraft.

  • @williamzk9083
    @williamzk9083 Жыл бұрын

    The first use of RAM was by the Germans in WW2 for u-boat mast head stealth. The Germans used both Jaumann absorbers and ferrites as well as a combination. These are still in use today. This is how the German Jauman absorber worked. It was optimized for allied 10cm (96% radar absorption) radar but worked quite well at 3cm (80% absorption) and fairly well at 25cm. To deal with 10 (actually 9cm) cm radar its thickness was 2.5cm which is a 1/4 wavelength. The material consisted of 7 cardboard sheets impregnated with exponentially increasingly dense of semiconducting graphite. The sheets were joined and impregnated with PVC to make them water tight and wrapped around the periscope or snorkel. The energy of a wave would be gradually absorbed by the semiconducting graphite much as a sea wave hitting the slope of a pebble beach. (as opposed to reflecting of a sea wall). The greatly attenuated wave still hit the the snorkel underneath and reflected but was absorbed on the way out. The small reflection on the surface of the Jaumann coating then cancelled out the reflection on the incoming wave. -Ferrites were molded into PVC for odd shapes where the jaumann absrober couldn't be wrapped. Some 30% was absorbed. By combining Jaumann and Ferrites a 99% absorption could be obtained.

  • @CaesarCassius

    @CaesarCassius

    Жыл бұрын

    Alright

  • @sarge420

    @sarge420

    Жыл бұрын

    Submarines is where it started.

  • @SeedOfElijah

    @SeedOfElijah

    Жыл бұрын

    The first couple generations of RAM had to do with disorganized lines of force getting oriented in a certain direction after being hit by radar energy and then being unable to return as strong as the energy being put in.

  • @williamzk9083

    @williamzk9083

    Жыл бұрын

    @@SeedOfElijah They were referred to as re-entrant structures. They tried to trap radar waves and absorb them. SR-71 had them.

  • @SeedOfElijah

    @SeedOfElijah

    Жыл бұрын

    @@williamzk9083 From what I have read those structures are built in to the airframe? If you can change the recipe and reapply then perhaps some combination is being used now. Ideally you would be able to change the characteristics without reapplying anything.

  • @jameswalker7899
    @jameswalker7899 Жыл бұрын

    The usual, outstanding analysis, well supported by detailed evidence. Warmest compliments. Thank you. :)

  • @grahamrushall6044
    @grahamrushall6044 Жыл бұрын

    Keep up the great work Alex. You are one of the best at what you do.

  • @dredriesen2827
    @dredriesen2827 Жыл бұрын

    Balanced, up to date and very informative. My compliments!

  • @TAR3N
    @TAR3N Жыл бұрын

    One of your best videos in a long tome !!! Great job ! Very informative

  • @stevenhoman2253
    @stevenhoman2253 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Alex, so glad you're available to flesh this out for me in detail. I have been expressing my interest in the newest ceramic RAM, as an article of faith, without knowing fully what its properties were, apart from being harder wearing, and less prone to high speed ablation.

  • @moisty1874
    @moisty1874 Жыл бұрын

    Another, factual, informative & interesting video. Very well written and presented. Well done Alex.

  • @chrissartain4430
    @chrissartain4430 Жыл бұрын

    Always ahead of the curve, Thanks Alex for all your work in bringing us tomorrow news.

  • @plaigeous
    @plaigeous Жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid yet again. Congratulations on your success and look forward to seeing your next instalment.

  • @fredhercmaricaubang1883
    @fredhercmaricaubang1883 Жыл бұрын

    Stay safe, Alex! I NEVER miss any of your episodes as they are so informative & entertaining AT THE SAME TIME! So, once again, STAY SAFE ON YOUR TRIPS, OK?

  • @pro_gemer
    @pro_gemer Жыл бұрын

    audio in your content has improved so much since i dmd you on twitter, glad seeing my favorite youtube series evolving!

  • @foxglow6798
    @foxglow6798 Жыл бұрын

    Fantastic video Alex. Always top notch content!

  • @jerrybarrax5618
    @jerrybarrax5618 Жыл бұрын

    Exciting stuff. Thanks for another informative vid!

  • @jan_phd
    @jan_phd Жыл бұрын

    I use those same coatings, underwater, to absorb ultrasonics and to build ultrasonic transducers. The major mode is total internal reflection, rather than bulk thermo conversion.

  • @Phrancis5
    @Phrancis5 Жыл бұрын

    As a Wolfpack grad, I'm really proud of the research NCSU is doing. Go Pack!

  • @Ezees23

    @Ezees23

    Жыл бұрын

    Go Heels!!!, LOL....and Duck Fuke......

  • @tc1718
    @tc1718 Жыл бұрын

    Stumbled on your channel a few months ago. Really impressed at your research. Would love to see an episode about the YF-23.

  • @lucasadams5042

    @lucasadams5042

    Жыл бұрын

    They did a video on that plane before.

  • @mr_brass_monkey

    @mr_brass_monkey

    Жыл бұрын

    should built that instead

  • @colinhobbs7265

    @colinhobbs7265

    Жыл бұрын

    @@mr_brass_monkey despite the pile of unsolved problems with the design, while the f22 was pretty close to good to go?

  • @randyrobey5643
    @randyrobey5643 Жыл бұрын

    Discussion of the new material which is referred to in the video title begins at 14:28.

  • @IvorMektin1701

    @IvorMektin1701

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank you

  • @Holdmy2nuts

    @Holdmy2nuts

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol appreciate it

  • @georgehilario3544

    @georgehilario3544

    Жыл бұрын

    For real dude he talks way too much of nothing

  • @georgehilario3544

    @georgehilario3544

    Жыл бұрын

    Talk about the new yellow Lego piece and he'll have to go through the history of Lego, the manufacturing process of the plastic, the story of the ceo of Lego, and the last 3 minutes will be about the actual yellow piece with fillers there too.

  • @br4nd0nh347

    @br4nd0nh347

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks I was 12 minutes in and was about to close the video.

  • @ponz-
    @ponz- Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for another great video!

  • @Bingbangohmigollygod
    @Bingbangohmigollygod Жыл бұрын

    The future of stealth is hard to see

  • @Scott11078
    @Scott11078 Жыл бұрын

    My second ship was an Arliegh Burke class. Deck department would be slowly driven insane taking care of the ram coating the Burkes, the first class of stealth ships have. I remember my first encounter with it, "Oh wow it's kinda spongy..." Poke, poke suddenly "HEEEEY!!!!!!!!! NOOOOO!!! Do not poke the RAM, you better not be a picker!" At that point they felt the only way to keep it safe was an extra watch whose sole job was keeping people from destroying the RAM apparently really bored people became compelled to pick at the RAM. Allegedly someone managed to pick an entire surface clean and our radar signature exploded. Our creative captain used it to advantage stating well no one is gonna look at our radar return and think it's a Burke.

  • @ThomasLee123
    @ThomasLee123 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent, as usual, Alex. Always enjoy your factual approach and your mastery of English which unfortunately seems to be lacking in most other venues these days.

  • @udeychowdhury2529
    @udeychowdhury2529 Жыл бұрын

    Another great video, would love to know more about active flow control

  • @damatrino001
    @damatrino001 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Alex you always do a great job!

  • @Two-Checks
    @Two-Checks Жыл бұрын

    What's more important than the coating is the security of the server on which the formula is stored.

  • @dustyrusty7956
    @dustyrusty7956 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent news, thank you Alex.

  • @kevinmccarthy8746
    @kevinmccarthy8746 Жыл бұрын

    I like the show. I love the subject, and you presented the information very well. No immaturity or weird noises.

  • @michaelshort7297
    @michaelshort7297 Жыл бұрын

    Great video! Very interesting and informative.

  • @patrickwelsing3308
    @patrickwelsing3308 Жыл бұрын

    I loved it. You did great. Thank you.

  • @stormiewutzke4190
    @stormiewutzke4190 Жыл бұрын

    Something like that would really drop the reaction time for missiles as well and could really shake up a lot of strategy.

  • @dexlab7539
    @dexlab7539 Жыл бұрын

    Nice summary - thanks for being honest about the real problems of F35!

  • @vladimirgollumputin2166
    @vladimirgollumputin2166 Жыл бұрын

    USA is building a 6th gen stealth jet while Russia and China are STILL trying fix their inferior 5th gen fake-stealth SU-57 and J-20. 🤣

  • @HailAzathoth

    @HailAzathoth

    Жыл бұрын

    u better believe it

  • @meintingles4396

    @meintingles4396

    Жыл бұрын

    Not just one, but two. The f/a-XX and the NGAD. And we are releasing the B-21.... our 3rd 5th gen aircraft.

  • @meintingles4396

    @meintingles4396

    Жыл бұрын

    @Pangolin Virtually every article mentioning the B-21 describe it as a 5th generation plane.

  • @meintingles4396

    @meintingles4396

    Жыл бұрын

    @Pangolin So the secretary of the airforce is wrong? "Then-Secretary of the Air Force Deborah Lee James stated that the B-21 is a fifth-generation global precision attack platform that will give the United States networked sensor-shoot capability, thus holding targets at risk."

  • @meintingles4396

    @meintingles4396

    Жыл бұрын

    @Pangolin Please reread my first post. I specifically stated aircraft, I did not say fighter. The context of the original post was indeed fighters, my point was expanding to it in regards to our technological advancements in comparison to other countries. This entire thread is absolutely ridiculous. I am unsure as to how such an innocuous and accurate remark has lead to this.

  • @Architek79
    @Architek7911 ай бұрын

    Alex - thank you for breaking down the costs and impact of RAM. General public complain about shortages and/or lack of specific combat capabilities. I like how you stated “stealth funding and development is truly rich country problem’s”

  • @24tanksalot
    @24tanksalot Жыл бұрын

    I have found your videos to be spot on one as well as they keep my full attention very Nicely done sir very well done indeed

  • @12345678sharad
    @12345678sharad11 ай бұрын

    The advancement in RAM would be a game changer, great video, I have been playing DCS lately and I didn't yet the acronyms at all 5th generation stealth etc thank you for letting common people understand how these systems work

  • @RandomExitsJT
    @RandomExitsJT12 күн бұрын

    It's like a variation on Occam's razor. The simplest explanation, the simplest solution, is usually the right one.

  • @Info-Ark
    @Info-Ark Жыл бұрын

    Excellent content. Thank you

  • @kkitzhaber
    @kkitzhaber Жыл бұрын

    Very fascinating topic!

  • @davidwenger8502
    @davidwenger8502 Жыл бұрын

    I've wondered if the hard points on jets and the missiles and weapons can be made steathy. So your not worried about loosing steath when weapon doors open. And your explanations of the maintenance of steath was very eye opening. I knew there was constant maintenance but wasn't aware of the speed limitations due to heat.

  • @aphil4581

    @aphil4581

    Жыл бұрын

    Didn't you ever see pictures of the black bird's and exp f-15's coming back after making record breaking speed run's. Not much paint left on those brand new birds!

  • @820hurleyj
    @820hurleyj Жыл бұрын

    Now it makes sense as to why there have been so many problems with stealth aircraft.

  • @intandemdj
    @intandemdj Жыл бұрын

    Could there be a potential to combine this CRAM technology with the chrome coating being tested and used currently, or would it have to be one or the other?

  • @WynnofThule
    @WynnofThule Жыл бұрын

    I love how you made the thumbnail look like a DoD PowerPoint

  • @mauisam1
    @mauisam1 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you. Very interesting.

  • @nickg1895
    @nickg1895 Жыл бұрын

    Great video!

  • @dominickefrim3088
    @dominickefrim3088 Жыл бұрын

    Outstanding breakdown.

  • @djoswald9128
    @djoswald9128 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent news cast

  • @salsuginusrex5196
    @salsuginusrex5196 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the idea for my materials science report!!!

  • @danielh248
    @danielh248 Жыл бұрын

    It gives me goosebumps to think of what the research labs are cooking up!!!!!

  • @mcjitsu
    @mcjitsu Жыл бұрын

    Interestingly most of the effort is for a head on approach. Like the time the F117 was seen over the Baltic, they are still a big fairly flat object seen flying overhead from the ground. The coverage "paint" is interesting, but the are still physical visible to the Mark I eyeball and a pair of binoculars, and sound tracking. Also, they need to cover the tanker with this coating as well, or they can just track the tanker and wait for a fuel up to attack.

  • @Anarchy_420
    @Anarchy_420 Жыл бұрын

    Could you Please create a Vid about The Gun Pods on The F-35B and C and how much it affects radar cross-section🙏

  • @watchthe1369
    @watchthe1369 Жыл бұрын

    A Thicc15-C straight out of ceramakote....... I expect the layering is a bit more than just a coating of paint, maybe more like the polymer tapes used on antenna leading edges. Even then a harder coating more durable than paint would be a big change escpecially if it is a primer layer under a regular paint coating.

  • @AnP865
    @AnP865Ай бұрын

    I used that academic paper to make some of this paint and now I can drive through speed traps at whatever speed I want

  • @johndoh5182
    @johndoh5182 Жыл бұрын

    One contention with this video and the issues with RAM along with failing at high speeds. As you said, operating above a certain speed is not allowed except for emergency. Well, that actually means fighting. You can actually train in aircraft where the coating is damaged or simply replaced with a coating that's durable. Then when you get into a real fight, you can move into position sub sonic which is the purpose of stealth. Once engaged it's one plane vs. the other, but even a plane with some damage to some surfaces is going to do better in a fight based on the weapons being used than a plane that has no stealth coatings or shapes. Yes, it will help to replace RAM as technologies allow, but the US military can train and fight with stealth in a way that isn't so financially draining, with the exception of aircraft on ships. Since pilots train from carriers, and a carrier needs to be 100% ready to fight when at sea in an operating theater, there's no way to train higher speed fighting without damaging materials. Having said that, you could shift Navy pilot training to shore facilities for high speed training and then once on ships, the training is about stealth.

  • @wpnexp336

    @wpnexp336

    Жыл бұрын

    Frankly, most “high speed” training can be conducted in a simulator.

  • @BravoCheesecake
    @BravoCheesecake Жыл бұрын

    The SU-57 should not be considered a stealth fighter. Look at those exposed rivets. Those engines The "mighty" dragon has canards. Let's get real lol

  • @justachipn3039

    @justachipn3039

    Жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣👍👍 I know right... been saying that forever, and it's in your face "stealth" 🤣🤣

  • @nfineon

    @nfineon

    Жыл бұрын

    Agree it's 4.5 gen, not 5th. Their new su-75 is seemingly stealthier and might qualify for gen 5 status but is probably decades away from serial production. The su-57 is a failure given how few there are.

  • @Ilyak1986

    @Ilyak1986

    Жыл бұрын

    By the time the Su-57 gets operational, assuming it ever does, it's going to be an absolute dinosaur in comparison to the various 6th gen programs. The F-22 raptor already outperforms it in just about every possible way except *MAYBE* WVR maneuverability, and that's being generous.

  • @that.schamp

    @that.schamp

    Жыл бұрын

    Ssshhhhhh.... Let the Chinese and Russian leadership have their fantasy. Because they have a cultural and institutional inability to pass negative feedback up through their organizational hierarchies, their leadership can see everything wrong with us, and nothing wrong with themselves, so they continuously overestimate themselves and underestimate us. As long as their leadership embraces ideologies that bring us into conflict, it is best to keep it that way.

  • @moonasha
    @moonasha Жыл бұрын

    are you gonna talk about those mysterious mirror sheen F-117s and F-22s that have been spotted?

  • @perelfberg7415
    @perelfberg7415 Жыл бұрын

    I react on one thing here. Thick ceramic coat is mentioned in the end. Maybe they have a very good solution to this but in general ceramic when thick is not flexible. A dynamic part such as a flexing structure on an aircraft like a leading edge does not sound like they will work so well together. But it all depend on how this thick is. And how dependent the Radar absorbing ability is on its thickness. Also this will translate to ossues with bonding if it is an issue with thickness.

  • @wolfgangjr74

    @wolfgangjr74

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm gonna guess that the material itself is already developed and the time being researched is how to properly apply the coating for the best radar absorption and performance. I'm gonna guess some kind of polymer will still be used to maintain some ability to absorb shock.

  • @tonysu8860
    @tonysu8860 Жыл бұрын

    This aircraft ceramic coating sounds a lot like the newer ceramic and graphene coatings available commercially for both professional and home car detailing. This car detailing technology is pretty incredible, when applied it can mean not having to wash and wax a car monthly(recommended). Assuming that a visible "liquid look" isn't as important as application time and protection, I can see how coatings including even a spray application can work on aircraft... A change of formulation would be necessary to increase the amount of ceramic or graphene particles, and to increase the curing time as necessary (for cars typically 2 minutes between coatings, 24hrs to a week for full curing). For cars, the result is usually an expected durability of 6-12 mths for the cheapest coatings and at least 7 years for the more expensive (typically approx $100 for 10 oz). Although car applications typically are extremely expensive due to needing a full day's work of prep and application, if an aircraft was less concerned about looks I'd imagine the process could be automated enough to achieve at least the same kind of durability at relatively low manual cost per application with its special, more concentrated formulation. This is not rocket science and it worries me a bit that the basic concept and maybe even a good part of the needed formulation is so widely and publicly available, but it also means that this extremely expensive and necessary cost component to fly stealth aircraft likely can be brought down very, very low to the cost of relatively common car detailing.

  • @mattnsac

    @mattnsac

    Жыл бұрын

    No, this is like ceramic header coatings used on exhaust systems. Applied like paint? Check. Handles extreme temperatures? Check. Looks like Chrome when sprayed and polished? Check. Everything about this looks like spraying jets with Cerakote exhaust coatings over some insanely complex system.

  • @jamesmetz5147
    @jamesmetz5147 Жыл бұрын

    Thank You.

  • @MardukTheSunGodInsideMe
    @MardukTheSunGodInsideMe Жыл бұрын

    Love the badass new music!

  • @kstaxman2
    @kstaxman2 Жыл бұрын

    Sounds like a great development.

  • @Steve_Hayden
    @Steve_Hayden Жыл бұрын

    Showing off the SU-57 @ 6:56 , you can see the rivots in the plane (everywhere) , wouldn't that kill its stealthy capabilities?

  • @dgour2004

    @dgour2004

    Жыл бұрын

    Su-57 is largely only considered stealth by Russian fan boys

  • @Steve_Hayden

    @Steve_Hayden

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dgour2004 Do you don't think it's as stealthy as the Russians claim? Rule 1: never ever believe what the Russians say.

  • @dgour2004

    @dgour2004

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Steve_Hayden I believe India when they said one of the reasons they pulled out was lack of stealth. All the other obvious stuff just reinforces this is not a highly stealthy design.

  • @guitarninjarick8179
    @guitarninjarick8179 Жыл бұрын

    I feel like the B-21 Raider has this RAM on it. The way they described that the maintenance on the Raider would b lower and that they could deploy it in theater seems to suggest a new type of RAM on it.

  • @rickjames18
    @rickjames18 Жыл бұрын

    Excellent content! Just hope this new ceramic RAM doesn’t fall into the wrong hands. Far too often adversaries get a hand on advanced research which could leave the US fighting against our own tech. I hope they are taking all precautions.

  • @fortunatodeguzman8017

    @fortunatodeguzman8017

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes,while still in testing stage at Americas facilities,why the media like internet is carelessly leaking the info to the public?...Was there a media outfit which were a secret communist sympathizer?.. a subtle, meek mole in the midst of America and its Allied Forces?....

  • @HubertofLiege

    @HubertofLiege

    Жыл бұрын

    I’m sure the Biden family won’t sell it

  • @bronsondixon4747

    @bronsondixon4747

    Жыл бұрын

    We’re screwed, Cheryl Xu did her undergrad in mainland China. Beijing got a copy of all of that research our federal government funded.

  • @wolfgangjr74

    @wolfgangjr74

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HubertofLiege Really? Dont you people get tired of all the Qanon nonsense?

  • @m3talgame20
    @m3talgame20 Жыл бұрын

    Issue with ceramic is cracking. Rapid heating and cooling can crack it. Airframe stress can crack it. The cracks can be tracked and locked by high frequency targeting radars. It's like aerogel with nucleation sites that match the high band frequencies you want to entrap.

  • @solarissv777

    @solarissv777

    Жыл бұрын

    that most likely what they are working on now

  • @tonysu8860

    @tonysu8860

    Жыл бұрын

    I don't know if what you say is necessarily true. We don't know what the bonding medium is and the ceramic is likely in particles, not a solid substance like a ceramic pot.

  • @Provocateur3
    @Provocateur3 Жыл бұрын

    As soon as you hear how hypersonic stealth fighters conceal their heat signature, please advise.

  • @kathrynck

    @kathrynck

    Жыл бұрын

    They don't. Although only high altitude IRST would see them from a particularly long range. Also, there is a countermeasure. But yeah, that's a limitation.

  • @Ilyak1986

    @Ilyak1986

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm guessing they'd slow down going into the combat area if IRST detection will be an issue. The question, though, is how far away one needs to be to detect a hypersonic aircraft on the infrared basis. A few miles, maybe?

  • @Provocateur3

    @Provocateur3

    Жыл бұрын

    @@kathrynck: Thanks.

  • @that.schamp

    @that.schamp

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Ilyak1986 I've seen iRST detection ranges quoted as high as 75 miles. At 5000mph, the 75 mile closure time is 54s. That is the extreme, but I assume a hypersonic vehicle will be at the high end of detection range, especially one that is propelled and sustains those speed - ie not a glide vehicle. Is that enough time to respond? Maybe.

  • @RAS_Squints
    @RAS_Squints Жыл бұрын

    Hey Alex, love your content. Areyou are going to the Miramar air show next week?

  • @bowencreer3922
    @bowencreer3922 Жыл бұрын

    This could increase the viability and longevity of the b2, f22, as well as the f-15 silent eagle.

  • @brendanmeyler1641
    @brendanmeyler1641 Жыл бұрын

    Seems to go well with an adaptive cycle engine.

  • @erickwoodard9991
    @erickwoodard9991 Жыл бұрын

    I am interested to know how much weight the new RAM will add versus the polymer

  • @dennisstorie4604
    @dennisstorie4604 Жыл бұрын

    Investing into the coating material producers seem like best buy

  • @markodell883
    @markodell883 Жыл бұрын

    Love your videos. Thank you. Just wondering why in the world the Air Force allowed such a potentially groundbreaking discovery be disclosed so publicly. Not the question is will the Chinese or Russians get this in service before the US?

  • @HailAzathoth

    @HailAzathoth

    Жыл бұрын

    Trust me it's not so simple that the smoothbrained chinese can figure it out just by hearing the word "ceramic ram"

  • @benjaminlynch9958

    @benjaminlynch9958

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HailAzathoth well, the paper was pretty thorough and was peer reviewed. One of the hallmarks of peer reviewed articles is that anyone with the requisite academic credentials should be able to verify the claims in the paper. In Chemistry that usually means someone can independently create the substance and verify its properties. I’m no chemist, but just from the abstract, it seems that the big breakthrough is a ceramic composite where 40% of the composition is ZrB2 (1 Zirconium & 2 Boron atoms) nanoparticles. And as to the original point… it doesn’t sound like this was necessarily research funded by or directed toward military applications. My guess, and this is total speculation, is that they stumbled across the radar absorbing properties of this new material by accident whereas the original research was looking at some other property such as durability, heat resistance, or something like that. Pretty difficult for the military to keep it quiet when private citizens create something like this that just happens to have a military application.

  • @GonzoTehGreat

    @GonzoTehGreat

    Жыл бұрын

    @@benjaminlynch9958 The composition of the composite and any details regarding its military application will be classified. As for the basic science, while the research paper reporting the discovery will be in the public domain, without access to the experimental data the results can't be easily replicated.

  • @lip124

    @lip124

    Жыл бұрын

    It really is not that simple, china can boast all they want about there J20 being more "stealthy" then F35 but that's all it is boasting its never been tested or battle proven compare to US, not to mention both these countries russia and china are known liars and exaggerate every single details.

  • @ponchoremerize5508
    @ponchoremerize5508 Жыл бұрын

    Making the F-35 the most expensive military program in history!

  • @bigviper64
    @bigviper64 Жыл бұрын

    Problems will always exist, especially in the latest advances in technnology, however THIS is the way we learn, this is the way we advance..by overcoming those issues.

  • @LukeBunyip
    @LukeBunyip Жыл бұрын

    I know that at this stage this is a rhetorical question, but will it be usable in lieu of the polymer RAM on existing stealth platforms like the F-35? Even if it's not, still sounds like a game changer for future platforms.

  • @Redmanticore

    @Redmanticore

    Жыл бұрын

    i couldnt see why not. its just a coating. slap it anywhere you want.

  • @aymonfoxc1442
    @aymonfoxc1442 Жыл бұрын

    What do you think of the rumoured 'chrome jet paint' trials? You should do a video on them. BTW, good job with this fascinating video :)

  • @Ryuondo
    @Ryuondo4 күн бұрын

    I could imagine that new ceramic coating being useful in making 4th gen aircraft more survivable in a modern near peer air war.

  • @ryankubinski8789
    @ryankubinski8789 Жыл бұрын

    Off topic, but does anyone know when block 4 will be put into the f35? I’ve seen headlines saying it won’t be finished until 2029 but I thought the upcoming lots were supposed to begin fielding block 4. If anyone has any information on that it would be appreciated

  • @steveshoemaker6347
    @steveshoemaker6347 Жыл бұрын

    Thanks Alex.....That would be a big + for other aircraft as well......Shoe🇺🇸

  • @Iseeyou67
    @Iseeyou67 Жыл бұрын

    Is the new coating similar to the "chrome" looking F22s and F35s we've been seeing out of Nellis?

  • @manuelteixeira2496
    @manuelteixeira2496 Жыл бұрын

    Cerâmic cover painting is the ultimate material, like grafen for computers or any other developmental materials for storing energy for instance. Keep its alloys and chemical components secret.

  • @lamarkingram5320
    @lamarkingram5320 Жыл бұрын

    Alex does it again! Great video, brother!

  • @lsaffron9752
    @lsaffron9752 Жыл бұрын

    I believe the future of stealth coatings will be graphene, though modern ceremics are truly amazing, in so many totally different fields.

  • @jameselliott6749
    @jameselliott6749 Жыл бұрын

    Hi Alex, I hope you are doing well. Provided these new ceramic stealth coatings prove out. How long do you think it will take to actually utilize this on our current and future stealth fighters? Also, could they extend the life of the F22 and possibly make current 4th gen fighters like the F16 more attractive as less expensive alternatives to the F35?

  • @timothypeters1709
    @timothypeters1709 Жыл бұрын

    Can they apply the ceramic coating to existing fourth generation fighters like the F-15, F-16 and the A10? Would it be a benefit?

  • @hl2bigboss

    @hl2bigboss

    Жыл бұрын

    I believe it would be a logistical nightmare (like the F22) and those planes aren’t designed to be stealthy, so it’s much more cheaper to just make a new plane dedicated to stealth.

  • @bluemarlin8138

    @bluemarlin8138

    Жыл бұрын

    @@hl2bigboss The ceramic coating is much, much, much more durable than what is currently being used by the F-22. That’s the whole reason it was developed. So a logistical nightmare, no. It is supposed to also be a good bit more effective than traditional RAM, but is it good enough to reduce the RCS of legacy aircraft enough to do any good? That is the question.

  • @TheSirStrazzen
    @TheSirStrazzen Жыл бұрын

    Great video. What I'd love to hear about is the current "Electronic Warfare Systems" that the USAF is employing in their S.E.A.D. jets.?? I used to be a Avionic Nav's & Comm's Specialist way back in the days of the old F- 4G Phantom II jet being used as a "Wild Weasel" platform. What I want to know is why has both the USAF & Navy gotten away from using tandem 2 seater jets like the F-4 and from what little info I know they both now use single seat F-16 & F/A-18 models to do the SEAD Wild Weasel missions ? Thanks again for everything you do , it is appreciated by many and more than you know. ~ ~ 🙂 TSS

  • @colinhobbs7265

    @colinhobbs7265

    Жыл бұрын

    That shit's classified

  • @TheSirStrazzen

    @TheSirStrazzen

    Жыл бұрын

    @@colinhobbs7265 Sure, uh-huh, really now ? S.E.A.D. {Suppression of Enemy Air Defenses}, has been around since the early days of the Vietnam War. So I doubt , HIGHLY DOUBT that ""This Shit" is classified. More than likely you are just a Loud-mouthed, Interwebz Salty Troll that likes to mouth off on random posts like mine for whatever reasons you have. 🤣 So stop it ! And if, IF by chance it it classified to know about SEAD, Wild Weasels and more --again I seriously, Highly doubt it since The USSR/Russians know about it , the Chinese know about it and even Our POTUS knows about it , then to me Prove that it is still "Classified" . Link or produce memorandum that proves that it's Classified , or just Shut Up !!🤐 TSS

  • @PerciusLive
    @PerciusLive Жыл бұрын

    My only question on this is how much weight difference does this new RAM coating make? I would assume that on equivalent thicknesses as current polymer RAM, ceramic would be heavier, otherwise, if to reach eqivalent or higher stealth you dont need as thich a coating as polymer, could it potentially even be lighter?

  • @dgour2004

    @dgour2004

    Жыл бұрын

    It does show 2.6 g / cm cubed beside "light weight" when first starting to describe it. We don't know how this compares to the existing polymer based ram but does at least say light weight is one of its features

  • @PerciusLive

    @PerciusLive

    Жыл бұрын

    @@dgour2004 if it is lighter than current polymer ram, this could mean that the weight savings could increase performance a bit or, in thicker coatings, it could provide even better all-aspect stealth

  • @vinak963
    @vinak963 Жыл бұрын

    Ceramic RAM. F-15 Silent Eagle making a comeback, perhaps? Weapons that could be placed on hardpoints instead of internally?

  • @Shirocco7
    @Shirocco7 Жыл бұрын

    Right around 18:30, what are the big red dice in the hanger all about?

  • @madbain79
    @madbain79 Жыл бұрын

    I hope they are watching Cheryl Xu like a hawk

  • @waynebynoe99
    @waynebynoe99 Жыл бұрын

    HEY! THIS IS'NT THE TECHNOLOGY! THAT CAN LAUNCH!!! THIS CIVILIZATION BEYOND!! THE STARS!!!

  • @rustyshaklferd1897
    @rustyshaklferd1897 Жыл бұрын

    I’d like to apply some radar absorbing ceramic coating on my car. LiDAR jammers take care of laser, ram would be helpful too.

  • @Ionizap
    @Ionizap Жыл бұрын

    1080p please, I dream of 4k from this channel.

  • @jellymop
    @jellymop Жыл бұрын

    An awesome direction to take it is to develop a system that absorbs radar and releases it at a different EM frequency. Radar to heat, or radar to electrical energy. Basically stealing tiny bits of power over extended flights. Just gotta get the efficiency up. This is super cool.

  • @pauljs75

    @pauljs75

    9 ай бұрын

    I picture it can be done. If you have some idea of how RFID tags are produced, this material may be rather easy to scale up in production using existing processes.

  • @mdrx9926
    @mdrx9926 Жыл бұрын

    This is the same paint we saw on the modified F22 that seemed to have glass on ?

  • @briancrane7634
    @briancrane7634 Жыл бұрын

    The J20 is not a stealth platform. An Indian Air Force colonel said that the Russian-made radar in his MIG picked them up easily at long ranges...nothing special...

  • @HailAzathoth

    @HailAzathoth

    Жыл бұрын

    its chinese what do you expect lmao

  • @hphp31416

    @hphp31416

    Жыл бұрын

    it's probably stealthier than su27 derivatives but nothing like f35

  • @sarge420
    @sarge420 Жыл бұрын

    I’m honored to have worked on the F-117A at Area51 (85-89). The Lockheed Engineers were a hoot.

  • @-p2349

    @-p2349

    Жыл бұрын

    Is there really aliens in area 51

  • @JamesLaserpimpWalsh
    @JamesLaserpimpWalsh Жыл бұрын

    Goodness me, F-22 is such a pretty plane. Not as good as Spitfire. F-22 has no vertical lines, but Spitfire has no straight lines. It's all graceful curves and ellipses. lol. Cheers for the vid mate.

  • @BudFunOne
    @BudFunOne Жыл бұрын

    I just saw a chrome coating for increased stealth and durability. Where does this fit in the mix?