Hello Ken and Keith, thanks a lot for selecting our product for independent review, we appreciate your thoughts & feedback! I would like to just point out one thing regarding the pilot location you mentioned. In your video, it is not broadcasting the pilot position because the Dronetag Beacon wasn't in an in-flight state (airborne). The Drone Scanner app shows it is grounded, which means you had all three LEDs green instead of blinking white. The ability to start/pause flights is one of the features for pilots when they are, for example, exchanging the batteries but still want to have the flights logged. Looking forward to your future content! Cheers

@CousinSchultz

Жыл бұрын

Awesome to know that you can attach the module and take off with the R-ID module not broadcast pilot location. That "feature" alone makes it worth the extra money!

@Joe-wk9ow

Жыл бұрын

I still don't think the pilot location should be publicly accessible. I understand law enforcement needing to find the pilot but what do we do if someone comes up to us with ill intent? Seeing where the drone is and the FAA tracking number should be enough to file a complaint to the FAA as they know who everyone is. I know it's not your fault and you don't make the rules. Perhaps you should have a help button in the app if you see someone approaching you looking to cause them trouble that can send an SOS out to law enforcement.

@GrimSpeedFPV

Жыл бұрын

​@@Joe-wk9ow agree this information should not be broadcasted to general public.

@TheDronzDr

Жыл бұрын

Ken it’s a damn shame that the lobbyist for us hasn’t done a damn thing with this drone remote issue. All the money that people have paid for their drones. and now that I am more money, just to fly and let them know all the information about you and your drone 😢

@jeffro06

Жыл бұрын

Where do you go to buy one of these???

From a purely financial perspective, no one will adhere to this until they can move the decimal point to the left a bit.

@Flexo3D

Жыл бұрын

for sure! even if I want to be compliant. No way Im gonna spend that much money on that.

@Xplicit_fpv

Жыл бұрын

Soooo agree

@raizdesuenos

Жыл бұрын

What are your personal feelings about this guys? I believe that if they are going to have so much oversight, they should give people an "out." For instance, if they allow you to get licenses for vlos or fpv flight remote id wouldn't be so bad. As it is now its waaay to much oversight. It'll be illegal to fly you dji fpv by yourself in your own backyard. Or fly your mavic three more than 300 meters out.

@andrewdrone

Жыл бұрын

​@@raizdesuenos it already is illegal to fly fpv by yourself anywhere without a visual observer, even if it's on our own property with no one around for miles

@adamdenton9009

Жыл бұрын

@@andrewdrone as a professional drone pilot, I will tell you that you don’t have to have a VO to fly as long as you can fly safely within visual line of sight.

It's small enough to fit right up their...

@xinrra

Жыл бұрын

On a more serious note, are long range pilots going to embrace this?

I have a Remote ID module that is a lot smaller than that! It's called, no module at all! I fly free baby!

I don't care how small it is. I'm not instating it period. I thought government was telling us there's too much radio interference but this defeats the purpose.

The best part is, how easy it is to not use!

I thought the FAA said these things were supposed to be under $50. What happened to that?

@my_dear_friend_

Жыл бұрын

Cube ID is supposedly in compliance and costs less than $50. Not sure if this is a legit product but cheaper modules appear to be coming.

Karens aren't my first concern, it's potential muggers looking for a quick pay day

@mrpickles2170

Жыл бұрын

Sounds like you need to exercise your 2nd amendment!

@1QKGLH

Жыл бұрын

@@mrpickles2170 Exactly! I don't like that the FAA has forced that issue.....on those that comply.

@CousinSchultz

Жыл бұрын

Fortunately criminals usually are not smart people.

If it was $20-30 usd, and under 20g I might would get and use it. However costing as much as the frame itself and on top of that weighing as much as they do, I have to be honest, none of my quads will have one and probably not even my larger craft will. I have always flown safe and will continue to do so but, there is already to many laws strangling our ability to happiness and liberty. Sad thing is the pilot location is going to cause problems with distracted pilots because some yahoo followed the app and confronts the pilot.

I’ll just 3D print a little cube and stick a led light in it and point at that if asked and say it’s my beacon. What, you can’t detect it? I thought it was working, the light is on.

If I attach that to my 249 drone, that will excede the weights and I will need to register it......

@CousinSchultz

Жыл бұрын

If you never fly using part 107 rules, you never need to register a drone that weighs less than 250 grams. If you never need to register the drone, then you have no need for R-ID.

@kingisrael1532

Жыл бұрын

And this is what they don't understand!!! 250 gram goes out the door🤦🏾‍♂️🤷🏽‍♂️ and on top of that they want you to pay them for a device that clearly changes the flying capabilities of your drone, any weight does, let alone adding the strobe light. Bye bye 250 gram.

Size Matters! Thanks Keith and Ken for a fun way to see the options

Man, that was entertaining and informative! You guys did a great job on this video!

@KenHeron

11 ай бұрын

Thank you

So where do you go to buy these things? I've looked on Amazon and Ebay and nothing.

Excellent Video and Excellent Information. Thank You Ken and Keith.

That swing set was crying out for help. Great video.

Boy they found A way to rake money from everyone who flys but hey being a 65 year old i like when your a little silly but this one seemed to much for me to enjoy my coffee but of course i did Finnish the video thank you for the info.

That was entertaining, thank you!

Price better come down or screw them

Hi Ken, wouldn't this added on pass the 249 g. weight?

FTFAA

Thanks for the info I was stressing having to buy multiple drone tags for each drone now I know 1 will do it and I have option to buy more as the money presents itself to be available!!! Thanks!

That skit at the end is priceless!

@KenHeron

3 ай бұрын

☺️♥️

Hey Ken, I have a question or two. I'm enjoying DJI Goggles 2, DJI RC2, Avata and Nazgul Evoque with O3 AU. Do I still have to rebind the RC2 to the AU after switching from the Avata? PITA!! Also, any suggestions on turning off RSSI lost beeper in Betaflight? My Nazgul beeps like crazy until the AU connect to RC2. 20-30 seconds every time I switch batteries. I've tried turning off the RSSI Lost beeper switch in BF but that didn't fix it. Love your channel! Thanks.

I'll watch for you Ken.

Here is a picture of my remote I D module 💩

Awesome you guys!! Way too funny..😂

For part 107 registration: If someone registered a DJI mini drone that does not have standard remote ID and weighs less than 250 grams pre 9/16/23, the drone will clearly weigh more than 250 grams with either of these R-ID modules attached. Obviously the registration weight is tied to the take off weight of the aircraft. Hopefully the FAA registration page accounts for this and allows us to move the once under 250 grams drone over to the more than 250 grams weight class. Also, I highly suspect adding additional weight is going to negatively impact the performance and center of gravity of every aircraft a R-ID module is attached to. This will ultimately make every aircraft with an R-ID module attached LESS SAFE. Way to go FAA...so much for safety first!

@kingisrael1532

Жыл бұрын

This is why the 250 gram goes out the door for all models made before the Mini 3 Pro and Mini 3. What baffles me is that with modern day technology your phone can already be tracked number 1. Number 2 a simple update can rectify all the shenanigans. This is just another way to dig into our pockets the ones who truly love the craft. I bet if kite flyers which are under 250 were to tie a camera to their kites they'll be fixin to find a way to exploit that also I'm sure.

@CousinSchultz

Жыл бұрын

@@kingisrael1532 Yeah, it is a total joke and not in a funny way! I am simply going to unregister my commercial drones that are less than 250 grams and will only fly them recreationally moving forward. There is no way that I am going to stick a module on a mini and make it unsafe by messing with its center of gravity and overall performance. I'll take the money I would have spent on a module and put it towards a drone that has standard R-ID built in. Of course I will only do this when R-ID becomes required. I am still holding my breath in hopes that the 9/16/23 date gets pushed. With the FRIA situation, I do not see how they could possibly stick to the current date.

Enjoying ignoring this to the fullest potential.

@ChainsawFPV

Жыл бұрын

Perfectly worded!

Maybe, the police who most likely don't even know or understand FAA regulations, should have to broadcast their position when setting up speed traps or using illegal No-Knock warrants etc.

Another awesome video Ken! Can’t wait to stick one of these on my FPV Cinewhoop… NOT!!! 😂

Hi Ken- Can you please consider doing a review on the Holy Stone Remote ID module? It’s selling on Amazon for $78.99 and it’s 13.9g small size

Wish I could figure what I need on my Sonicmodell Binary airplane. and if I need a FC or if there is something compatible with my receiver.

I have the db120 module. This video added to my confusion. In the United States, the module needs no configuration and comes configured properly to comply with regulations. In the EU, they have to enter the pilot details, but not in U.S. So unless you need to tweak the protocol used, or the the broadcast strength or something weird, you don't have to do anything other than register it in FAA DroneZone and turn it on.

Funny guys beside comparing the products , THX guys ! I'll wait till the price comes down ...!

I'd like to see a module that uses a lipo's balance connector for power (if that type of design would be compliant). Don't think a Remote ID module should cost more than about $30.

@Fly_High_FPV

Жыл бұрын

Ypu dont want to pay $215 to so local idiots and thugs can lookup your location and the value of your drone?

The new Integra has remote i.d already to go is compatible with like everything I'm selling v2's and getting a set!!! Cheers Ken

Im not putting up with this

Ken, great video! I have watched it several times. Where did you attach the Dronetag Beacon to the Phantom? This whole RID thing bothers me but due to my business I must comply. I have 2 P4P's and a P4A. I asked DJI where did they suggest I place the beacon and they told me to consult with the FAA on where to place it so to not have a loss of GPS signal. I wrote them back and told them the FAA would have no idea where I should place it and since they built the drone they should be able to advise. That was this morning so I am waiting to hear back.

@KenHeron

11 ай бұрын

Attach it low on one of the legs. You should be good.

@frankloy2701

11 ай бұрын

@@KenHeron thanks ! I am not sure how one could attach the drone tag beacon on the legs. Not much surface area there and it would have be on top of the leg to not interfere with take-off or landing. Any thoughts or suggestions ??

You didn't mention having to buy a monthyl subscription for the Drone beacon mini

@jawillmurphy25

7 ай бұрын

Maybe because you don't 😂 that subscription is if you want to store your flight records in their cloud

One important aspect left out in this review was the expected "battery life" of the two devices. The DroneTag Beacon has a longer life per the module specifications, 8-16 hours (depending on the configuration) vs. 3 hours for the BlueMark DB120.

Hey Ken, if a drone is tethered to the ground does part 107 and remote ID requirements still apply? I am a home inspector and would like to get a view of a roof which I can't access. Could I get around part 107 if I secure the drone to the ground with heavy gauge fishing line?

@tannerott6346

Жыл бұрын

Alright I can give you a simple run down, if you tether a drone to the ground it doesn't make a difference, if you fly commercial or for profit, you have to have a part 107 to comply, for now, you can choose not to comply with remote id but come September 16 2023 the drone has to have a remote id, I'm not sure if the consequences of not having remote id are but, the consequences of not having a part 107 and operating comes with fines, for now this is pretty much the only options we have, unless the tether would supply power to the aircraft in which it would be considered an electric kite and you can avoid all the things just stated

@troycate8220

Жыл бұрын

@@tannerott6346 Thanks for the info

I’ll take a hard pass on Remote ID modules… no thanks.

Operator location is not REQUIRED to be broadcast by a RID module under §89.315. It is REQUIRED to be broadcast by a RID compliant drone.

Any chance of an update with recently released and updated RID modules? I am very interested to learn how the Holy Stone HSRID01 compares.

@KenHeron

8 ай бұрын

You bet

Great information on the new RID modules, and how they work with the 'Karen' apps. Thanks for sharing Ken.

Meanwhile the FAA is short staffed!! Love to see the enforcement side

Another gem Ken. Fun meeting you at the SFDM and being insulted on my selfie skills. Thank you 😊.

Ken, I am a hobbist and fly on an infrequent basis. I have a Holy Stone HS720E GPS Drone and it cost me roughly $300. Do you see anything similar to the Dronetag units coming on the market at a more reasonable price point? I am hard pressed to justify spending another $200-$300 just to "legally" fly my $300 drone.

Those things cost more than my reciever/vtx/camera/fc/gps module combined, and probably weighs about as much as well, nawp. Not happening until it's at least 1/4 that price and weight and can be powered off my fc/battery.

I don't see how remoteid is even remotely enforceable. What are they going hire 10,000 FAA agents to do compliance checks.

@TheDronzDr

Жыл бұрын

Your right. More for the Hobbyists that’s all. It’s bullshit

@my_dear_friend_

Жыл бұрын

More worrisome if you have an insurance case and it turns out you were operating your drone illegally.

@betto79

Жыл бұрын

Meanwhile the FAA is short staffed

Driving while operating the karen app should be remoted id so the police can track them and pull them over 😄

😂😂this is good Ken .

Why would you have to reconfigure the drone id thing for different aircraft? Unless you are part 107 you don't need to register aircraft individually.

I’ll wait, for a few months after compliance date. Hardware should be solid by then. Thanks for the fun guys. The merry-go-round drone is big. More than 55kg?

Question - Ken said one module for use with all your drones. Is that 107 or just hobby??

@KenHeron

11 ай бұрын

Hobby

Drone tag support is fantastic! 👍

I have a phantom 4. And several various electric and fuel planes. I am wondering how this remote ID will be required for the planes.

@CousinSchultz

Жыл бұрын

Any sUAV that weighs 250 grams or more must be registered with the FAA. If you fly an sUAV commercially, it must be registered regardless of weight. Any sUAV that requires registration ,must have a R-ID module on it as of 9/16/23 or have standard R-ID built in. However, anyone can go fly any sUAV in an approved FRIA without R-ID. The problem with the last option is the fact that the FAA has not approved a single FRIA as of this posting. Due to that fact, I and many others are hopeful that the 9/16/23 date will be pushed back.

1:59; ohh there's a *Tab* like ok what next!! 😆

First let me say, love this episode. Well done. 👏 Tooo expensive. Next video show me how you strap it to to your fpv drone. Then go rip balls ⚽🏈⚾ And how am I supposed to attach it to my Openracer builds canopy? 🤔 All assuming I want to comply. 👀

Why can’t DJI update firmware to broadcast remote ID?

@WA4OSH

Жыл бұрын

Because they want to sell you new googles and drones. Obviously, this Federal regulation was a cash cow for them.

@TheDronzDr

Жыл бұрын

It’s a Joe Biden thing 😅

Where did you buy the Drone Tag Mini for $140.00? All I see is $300.00 and backordered at that!

@KenHeron

Жыл бұрын

I think the drone tag beacon is cheaper. www.vertigodrones.com/Dronetag-Beacon-Direct-Broadcast-Remote-ID-Module_p_2588.html

@DCSIDPA

Жыл бұрын

@@KenHeron $199.00 better, but not $140.00.

Gentlemen, since a DJI mini 2 is light enough to not require registration at all, and the FAA site says only drones that require registration require an ID module, may I assume that a mini 2 does not require an ID module? Thank you in advance.

@KenHeron

Жыл бұрын

If you aren't flying under recreational rules, you'll need to register your drone - regardless of what it weighs. On the other end, any recreational pilots with models above 250g - for example an Autel EVO II, DJI Air 2S, or Mavic 3 series - will also have to operate under Remote ID.

@ogpennywise

Жыл бұрын

If you fly under 107, and use the craft to "further" your commercial venture, ANY and ALL are required to be registered. I am going to guess that any flying for anyone with 107 will be required to register, as they will make the argument that any practice flying would only help your business. I will be glad if I'm wrong, but I've never seen the government make logical choices at any point in my employment with them for the last 30+ years.

thats more than some planes , quads cost ahhh !

I'm waiting for the fire sale on all the in stock drones that were not made with remote ID and can't be sold after September.

@GearZenChannel

Жыл бұрын

You are going to be waiting a good long time I think.

Nope.

Love your videos Ken ! Informative also. Having the Avata and the Air 2. I still dont know what to do. obviously I need the DroneTag for the Air 2. The Avata can go both ways, so far... I have not updated it to require R.I.D.( Phone attached) I am still unencumbered !

@KenHeron

Жыл бұрын

You're fine for now. I'm not sure what the FAA will do in September, but more than likely they will push the date back. I think this RID thing is going to eventually fall apart anyway. Best to wait and see for now.

ohhhhh at 6:11 somebody got busted. haha. Wish I saw the rest of that.

These two missed their calling.. I enjoyed the humor more than the information! Great delivery about something that's about to become one BIG MESS!

@KenHeron

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I'm flying a Bugs 2SE that I bought on EBay for $50. I fly recreationally. I haven't bought a second battery yet. Which do you think I should get, a second battery ($35) or remote ID ($215)! Buy the way, what's the fine for not having remote ID? Now if I have remote ID and a low flying plane hits my drone and crashes, do I have a case against the other pilot? Now if I don't have remote ID and that low flying plane hits my drone and crashes, I bet I'm in a deep pile of do-do!

@CousinSchultz

Жыл бұрын

R-ID or not, recreational or not, drones are always to yield to manned aircraft. In other words, either way you would be in a word of hurt and in big trouble. Also, manned aircraft pilots will not be looking for or at R-ID data in hopes of avoiding drones.

@stevenpeck5949

Жыл бұрын

@@CousinSchultz I guess I missed something. I thought one of the uses of remote ID was help control air traffic. I thought the FAA computers were going to use the signals to notify other air craft, that is when I open B4UFLY and Aloft Air Control, I am warned of hazards in the air space. And I have to request authorization to fly if there is a local hazard.

@CousinSchultz

Жыл бұрын

​@@stevenpeck5949 Hmm, that was indeed the way it was originally sold with mandated "Network" R-ID. However, the law that passed is (currently) only "Broadcast" R-ID. With broadcast R-ID, there will not be integration into B4UFLY nor Air Control, nor any of the other apps as it is not possible with the current infrastructure. Even today before R-ID goes into effect, if you get LAANC authorization/approval, only YOU can see your own approval. That fact continues to blow my mind. Why they are not able to display everyone's active LAANC approval on the maps within these apps is beyond me. B4UFLY does show everyone's notify and fly requests, but creating a notify and fly request is completely voluntary and not required. Whereas LAANC authorizations/approvals are required in controlled airspace. Why I am not able to see someone else's active LAANC approval/authorization when I pull up a map within controlled airspace is truly beyond me!

@petem.3719

Жыл бұрын

You would be held responsible either way, no matter what stupid action was, or was not, taken by the pilot of the manned aircraft. RID just makes it easier for Big Brother to identify and prosecute you. I'll probably just remove all my registration numbers and just go rogue whenever RID takes effect. As long as any incident will automatically be blamed on me anyway, wtf should I let my own drone snitch me out? I don't know nuthin' 'bout no drone. What's a drone anyway? Come and get me, Coppers! Nyah.

IP on... what adress? Fun stuff again, thanks for this!

I was more concerned about you driving a police car while watching your phone! Not good publicity,Ken. But, DroneTag it is. Now, where the did I put my license?

I thought it was supposed to be one app for all RID modules but it's not going to end up like that. There's going to be a lot of update bugs. Now we can all see when the police are using there drones

@r.brucepeters2845

10 ай бұрын

"Now we can all see when the police are using there drones." This is actually being addressed, with a "session ID" specification, not yet released.

The DroneBeacon Db120 can be configured to NOT let Karen see you.

Nope I'm 65 been flying RC since I was a teenager and never had a single run in ever unless it was someone curious and interested in how to get into RC. Been doing this drone thing now about 3 years. I live in the country and fly with ADSB always turned on and my hearing and eyesight are just fine. I'm always aware of where I am and what's around me .. There just comes a time when enough bs is enough. I did the FAA registration for my number, I did the TRUST which is a complete joke. I'm done. It's a friggin hobby !

@petem.3719

Жыл бұрын

Same age, same history, same sentiment.

What a joke. I hope they don't sell a single one. Need to be $10 or less.

Jesus christ dudes this video was hilarious great job great info thanks!

@KenHeron

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Hi, Kenny. Related the DJI Goggles V2 and the DJI Goggles 2. I wonder why there isn't something really simple that just plugs via USB-C where your phone goes into the goggles where a simple Remote ID unit could simple plug in with or without using your phone. A small plastic shell with a male end on one side into the goggles and a female end if you want to plug in another device all through the same USB-C port. Hope I didn't make this confusing. If I used Solid Works I could make a simple tiny DJI Box mold that has the male on top you plug in and your off flying and compliant with Remote ID and all our favorite Karen's can keep an eye on us!

Do you have a promotional code so we can get a discount? Lol

Good Times....

Why can't DJI use the phone app for the remote ID on other models? That's how the Avata is now...

Hilarious to watch you drive while holding your cell phone to find a safety beacon. Anyway, what makes this module so expensive? Couldn't you use your drone's existing GPS and just use an updated vifly GPS mate pass through?

try and swing right around!!

Are these required for ParaMotor Aircraft? How about Kites?

@lamarw7757

Жыл бұрын

Paper planes too.

@OpenCarryUSMC

11 ай бұрын

Nope. RID isn’t even required on 354 pound ultralight airplanes! Heck they don’t even need any training, license, or registration. But drones do? Tyranny at its finest.

Remote ID pisses me off more than I can say but I have to also say, that video is officially the most I've laughed at a drone video EVER. "OH NO! THAT'S NO GOOD!" 😂 I plan on complying completely with Remote ID (which is why it pisses me off) but I'm hoping (praying) the laws change to increase the compliance weight from 250g to 1KG which would mean none of my drones would need to comply. I would also like to see Remote ID only required above designated altitude like 100 feet. There is no reason for Remote ID to be broadcasting me when I'm in my backyard flying below my own tree line or worse yet, INSIDE MY HOUSE. (Yes, I have enough windows that I get satellites inside my house).

Are the modules certified by FAA? Some sellers fool buyers saying that FAA does not give certification to individual modules. No, certification is required.

@KenHeron

Жыл бұрын

Correct, there's no "certification" from the FAA. However, these comply with FAA requirements for Remote ID modules.

I'll wait until the price drops below $30. By then I may not need one.

No RID for me. I guess I'm not a good little minion.

as a active hobbyist with a current 107 I will wait untill its $30.00 with free shipping

Hey I get it! RID is not popular. It's coming whether we like it or not. Knowing what's out there and what they do and cost though is important. Your compliance is a you issue, you will decide to comply or not. For us Part 107 holders there's really no choice, so knowing what might work best for you is the intent. Support the FPV Coalition's petition, to up the 250gram limit. At this time that's all we pilots can do and of course continue to fly safe. As that matters the most.

@vertibirdfpv

Жыл бұрын

Not if you build your own drones

@DDsAerialViews

Жыл бұрын

@@vertibirdfpv You guys have it a little easier. These featured modules are mainly for GPS legacy craft. These companies all offer a board version that can be added to the stack and tied directly to the power circuit on home builds. Those modules look to be running around $40 to $80.

You realize your name is Ken right.😅😅

The one being mocked sounds much better to me. Instead of a probably intrusive app, that can ask for unnecessary permissions, it uses an embedded web server. That sounds way better.

Also the irony of using the drone safety app in the car when private drones have killed no one and cellphones in the car have killed many.

Adults are funny lol

@parsec3d

Жыл бұрын

So kid, please tell the Jury what did the Man in the park with the weird thing in the head told you...🤣🤣🤣

FAA has just extended the RID compliance date another six months, due to the difficulty of procuring compliant retrofit devices.. By then, perhaps the RID industry will have caught up, and less expensive compliant devices will probably be available.

Ken and Keith thanks for the video. Kentertainment! Here's a question/statement: ABSOLUTELY silly! WHY on earth would you make a product that goes on an aircraft that has the most UN-aerodynamic design/shape possible: a BRICK . Are the designers/ companies even thinking?!? 2. COST: should be cheap. I see price gouging on the rise....the RID unit will cost more the the drone you're putting it on if free enterprise has its way... 3. FAA Want compliance? Make it easy. 4. No tracking apps. Or at least someone develop the app that detects tracking you. The FAA mandate: 'integrate drones into the airspace'. Citizens need to understand this. End of rant...

You’ll never make it as an astronaut, Ken.

Stupidly expensive. Nobody but commercial operators will comply with this bullshit. Let them hunt me down if they're so worried.

Will not adhere to this. Don’t care.

stop a cop and get them to look at the app, they probably don't even know about it, where do we buy bluemark?