Did you know about the scientologists in the UK? And who shall I interview next?

@barbaragrace1992

Жыл бұрын

What are those clowns doing over here in the UK? They need to leave.

@alexandracarvalho1661

Жыл бұрын

Next one should be Claire Headley 😅

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

@@alexandracarvalho1661 Yes I need to remember to reach out, she's brilliant! Wish she was in England so I could do this in person. Same with Marc, Aaron, Chris etc!

@WillieWeed

Жыл бұрын

If you don't go to one of those org's you'll never hear the end of it

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

@@WillieWeed haha we MIGHT!

I remember when I was in my early 20s I went with a friend up the road from where we worked, to pick up a friend of hers. I didnt know at the time, that he was a Scientologist and was working at the city offices(Auckland NZ) so we were in the vestibule of these offices for all of 10 minutes before we were being badgered to take a “personality test” I was just like “no thanks” and we collected the guy and left. HE then started to push going in for an “audit”. I was just like “dude, not interested” but I started talking to my friend after we dropped him off. She told me she’d taken a “personality test” and they’d told her that she was “unbalanced” and had the “potential to harm herself or others”. This girl was the kindest and gentlest person I’d ever met, and these people had made her worry about whether or not she really was unbalanced. I advised her to not listen to a word they said, and that she was as stable as anyone. It stuck with me tho cos it was just so very manipulative, telling people bad things just to scare them to come back for help…..assholes. I dislike Scientology intensely.

@donnahetherington3170

Жыл бұрын

The woman i know you couldn't wish to meet a kinder woman ,but suppose its the vunrable ,they didn't like me wouldn't by the book they had the machine with them

@firstarticle3779

Жыл бұрын

They use the test to assess what will confuse and provoke. Her teat showed that kindness is important to her.

@marg233

Жыл бұрын

Interesting, boy do they push in still u knew best held you're own👏🏻 thanx for sharing

@angelamarsters9169

Жыл бұрын

I'm from Auckland in NZ too and I was warned about the scientologists approaching you on the street offering questionnaires when I was a young teen in the early mid eighties to just point blank refuse because they were a manipulative cult, and I've never ever liked Tom Cruise hes a repulsive empty strange man

@cindirose3390

Жыл бұрын

And they record in writing anything you get audited about so then someone has deepest secrets, that is manipulative also

What I’ve never understood about Scientology is, if going clear means that you get control over your emotions and your “reactive mind,” why is Tom Cruise known for losing his cool at employees on his film sets? Sounds like he needs a refund on all of his auditing sessions!

@madelinealicea2044

Жыл бұрын

They cater to him. He's the biggest star they have and he's very close with the leader. He's untouchable. So yeah, it's gone to his head

@barbarahansen5353

Жыл бұрын

I got a ❤️from Andrew!!🥰

@urutherford

Жыл бұрын

I think the stated reason could be that he does it deliberately to discipline staff.

@barbarahansen5353

Жыл бұрын

@@urutherford Well he just winds up looking like a lunatic!

@karigross4596

Жыл бұрын

It’s what Miscavige does, too.

Apostate Alex tells his story. I have not as yet seen a Brit do a KZread video revealing recent Cult activity in the United Kingdom of the last 15 or so years. This is a FIRST ! High Fives and salutations ! Good job Andrew and Alex😀❤🙏

@donnahetherington3170

Жыл бұрын

Wasn't that long they were in Newcastle city center ,jackson street say 6 months ,had his book all over and the machine

It is a CULT

Andrew I'm so happy for you. Watching your channel grow exposing the truth has been such a treat. I wish you all the success you deserve.

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated

@roxannaadams

Жыл бұрын

Almost 100k Subs! 🥳 Wont be long.

@wendybrenner2614

Жыл бұрын

4:23 hey I'm from America and I just wanted to let you know that I am absolutely addicted to your channel I am so happy for you and hope that you get that hundred thousand subscribers soon🎉 I would love to see you do an in-depth dies on Meghan Markle pre Harry because I can tell you that nobody in America likes her but we all feel sorry for her today because she has let all his demons out and has brainwashed him so badly that I'm hoping that the United States will not let him back in when he goes because if you have anything to do with drugs you can come back in and then maybe he can get the help he needs and get back with his family

@sheridanmason6830

Жыл бұрын

Me too. I'm in Australia and watching the videos is so interesting. Love the questions and how you sit and patiently wait for the speaker roll out all the information. Fantastic Andrew.

When I went to scientologists, they answered 0 questions, they'd just prompt to buy a book. I thought this was very unprofessional. Now I start to think, they weren't really interested because we were teenagers back then and they could see that we didn't have too much money.

@troysnuffles

Жыл бұрын

No, they'd say the same thing to everyone. Miscavidge doesn't trust his own people to explain it adequately.

Nicole doesn’t talk about her children with Cruise. I’m not sure if she talks to them. The kids are adopted. Kidman has never said anything bad about the church. The rumour was that Cruise didn’t show up to the Oscars was because Kidman was going. Now if that’s true, she has some power over that man.

@ericwilliams626

Жыл бұрын

That wasn't the reason he didn't show up. He probably didn't show up because he felt they are now a clown show he didn't wish to participate. That is the adult guess.

@VJShordee

Жыл бұрын

@@ericwilliams626 I did say it was a rumour

@anncheng3840

Жыл бұрын

I think Tom just run away from an apology he owes Nicole for his selfishness.

@ericwilliams626

Жыл бұрын

@@VJShordee A bad rumor.

@chrispeppers8895

Жыл бұрын

Perhaps he was afraid there would be scientology jokes, seems to be a trend at award shows.

I think the billion year contract would be a sticking point for me. Maybe I could spare 750 million years, but I was looking forward to at least 250 million, to wind down without any commitments. 😂

Love the way Andrew listens! He doesn’t talk over his guests.

That whole thing about stats having to go up every week was one of the things that made me want to leave. Being a reasonable person (?) I realized that it’s impossible to keep expanding like that. Everything reaches an equilibrium eventually. The fact that Scientology doesn’t recognize that made me think they were full of 💩!

@flowerjpotter1629

Жыл бұрын

It always sounds like the put enormous pressure on their staff. And financially on the public members.

Bella Cruise is the adopted daughter of Nicole and Tom. Tom has only one biological child - Suri w/Katy Holmes. It was a huge deal when she had her b/c rumors swirled that Tom couldn't have biological kids (Mimi Rogers had none and Nicole adopted). And, from what I understand, Tom wasn't much of a dad to Bella either - allowing Scientology to basically raise her. I don't think she had much parenting from anyone.

@helgardhossain9038

Жыл бұрын

Exactly - Tom Cruise has issues with his fertility ...

@karismatica55

Жыл бұрын

I just wrote something similar. I guess I should have read all the comments first.. LOL

@LauriPlaysOfficial

Жыл бұрын

Still not convinced he has a biological child.

@cobrakai3732

Жыл бұрын

Yes, and both Mimi and Nicole magically had biological kids after divorcing Cruise... not speculating too hard but I still think Katie either had extensive IVF or used a donor that looked like Tom in order to quiet those rumors that were going around. Also Tom only claims 3 kids - the two that he adopted with Nicole, and then Suri. (ETA: typo)

@goodgollymissm6843

Жыл бұрын

Nicole actually was in the early stages of pregnancy when Tom packed up the house and kids and left her right after their 10th Anniversary......... she had no idea he was leaving her, and the stress made her miscarriage.

I really love how you interview people, and you make it look so easy. So excited to see your channel growing.

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

You're going to hit 100000 b4 You're Birthday 🎂 🥳 congrats, Andrew in advance!

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

I hope so!! thank you, and love to Indiana and Kurt Vonnegut! :D

This video was so informative! I appreciate Alex sharing his story! He has so much courage to step up and speak his truth!!!Thanks so much to both of you for this video!

Dear Andrew, I have a question. When you have Scientology insiders, can you please ask them how they take care about their elderly? Like Jews, you know, they have centers, they care for people, when they are in need, they do charity,....they care for your funeral...what do Scientologist do? Thank you. XX

Temp is 57 in Clearwater Florida, but getting up to 67. Mostly sunny. 🌞 ☀️ 🌤 🌅

@JT-ij9yp

Жыл бұрын

Isn't it beautiful in Florida today? I'm in SW Florida and I don't remember when it was this temperature this time of year! It's so cool LoL I am kidding kinda. It's cool for FL.

@WiseAngelUK

Жыл бұрын

It's raining and bloody freezing here in the UK.

@LadyPamela63

Жыл бұрын

Hey Chad my Bro ❤😎🙋‍♀️🇨🇦💋

@LadyPamela63

Жыл бұрын

What’s the weather like in Cambridge Ontario right now lol?

@danbaker194

Жыл бұрын

Pissing it down mate 😂

This was brilliant! Thanks Andrew & Alex.

Great interview Andrew…you are always engaged with the conversation, it really does make a difference.

Happy to see an in person interview. Thank you Andrew!

Thank you Andrew, this was a great interview. You make your guests very comfortable. Nice to see your subscribers growing.

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Wow this guy has a beautiful speaking voice! 💜

Sorry I missed the live stream! Thank you for this, it was great to chat with you!

Would love to see an Edgehog school trip to UK Scientology with you and Alex!

We are in a court matter of neighbour bullying. The bully is a Scientologist who took the aged victims to court claiming that they are the bullies. Your videos have taught me much in how to deal with thos monster at court

Didn't know we had that crap in UK.

@apostatealex

Жыл бұрын

Oh yes, indeed we do. In fact Scientology was run from the UK for many years, and one of the main HQs is in Sussex.

Hi Andrew, what a fantastic and really well produced interview. That was really impressive and very professionally done. More like this! Loved it.

Would LOVE to see you and Alex visit an org! I enjoyed your interview with him immensely. Nice to see Scientology from an English point of view. ❤ from San Diego!

Thank you for a great interview 🙏 🐨

Great interview. Very eye opening!

It took me a quick hot minute to remember you’re both British so you can actually sit in a room together 😅 The different format threw me haha but it’s a nice change though 🙂

Thank you, Andrew and Alex. From South Africa 🇿🇦

Great interview 👏

I missed the Live airing of this video..I had to work over today,and now I am watching the replay..

Fascinating to hear Alex's story, a great interview.

@apostatealex

Жыл бұрын

Really interesting viewpoint. Really great interview as always

@apostatealex

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Im glad you thought so

Why isn't this "church " being investigated by the police in light of what he's alleging regarding credit cards. That's just fraud.

Great episode and yesssss, please visit that place with Alex!

Love this so much!

Excellent interview!

Great interview x

Looking forward to it!!

Fascinating guest Andrew, ❤️ many thanks

Great interview, Andrew. Thanks for speaking out, Alex. Very interesting. I don't feel it's necessary to visit Scientology, Andrew. There are enough people coming forward, just interview them. 💜

so interesting, thanks for sharing 🖤

Very thankful to you Andrew! You are educating us, your followers, about a very important matter, essential to everyone: religion.The dangers,or let’s call it, “dark side”, of some beliefs in the context of cults. To be truthful all cults make shiver.

Dude was sucked in the same way I was. Watched the 2007 BBC documentary, became curious, bought Dianetics and was transported by it. Difference is that I found the people to be really weird and kept them at arms length, thankfully.

@apostatealex

Жыл бұрын

Toph, I would love to hear more about your story - is there any way you could get in touch, please? My email is on my page

@flowerjpotter1629

Жыл бұрын

Can you say what exactly it was about them ?

@toph8298

Жыл бұрын

@@flowerjpotter1629 Off-putting intensity to the majority of them, seemed to have no real interest in anything unrelated to the subject itself. Also turned off by attempts at pressure selling when I ended up surrounded by four people in a small room trying to sell me another course. That was the final straw for me. Blessing in disguise, if they were any warmer as human beings I’d probably have been far more malleable.

@KCS-01

8 ай бұрын

@@toph8298I’ve read the majority of dianetics out of curiosity and expanding on that sense of wonder, how the hell did it transport you? I transported mine straight to the bin honestly.

Great stuff. Thank you Andrew

Fantastic interview.

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Many thanks!

YAY!!! You made it 100K! Congratulations!!

Andrew, you are such an incredible interviewer and I enjoy watching all of your videos and I always learn something new. 💗

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoy it!

Great interview

I'm Australian and I was curious why Scientology is legally treated as a religion. It all flowed from one legal case decided by three justices of the High Court, the highest court in the country. All three agreed it doesn't matter if the founder of the religion was a charlatan who considered it a mere money-making scam, they must decide the case on the basis of whether its adherents considered it their religion. Which they concluded was so. So it looks like we're stuck with them as a religion for a very long time because it's hard to imagine how their decision, for those reasons, ever gets overturned. 😞

@Justicia007

Жыл бұрын

Yes because by that legal decision, they just legitimized cults. By definition the adherents to a cult believes that it's a religion. So the only thing to do is to revisit the legal premise and change the legal definition, which they absolutely should do because it's nonsensical to determine the intent and nature of an organization through the beliefs of its members who are clearly brainwashed.

@rossmurray6849

Жыл бұрын

@@Justicia007 If only it were that simple. The prohibition against anything that restricts the free exercise of any religion is in the Constitution. That's not going to change. And yes, they did legitimize cults, and they did so deliberately. Their decision states, "Charlatanism is a necessary price of religious freedom."

@Justicia007

Жыл бұрын

@@rossmurray6849 I don't really know too much about the Australian legal system. Sounds like there's a similar constitution to ours here in the US? Because even though we have decisions here that may seem set in stone, The court is free to accept a case with a similar but slightly different issue and clarify or even change their position and therefore change law.

@masaokakihara9316

Жыл бұрын

I stand behind that court decision, as it seems just. All religions are religions. Either consider all of them not eligible for tax deduction, or none. There are a few ground pillars and if a group meets those, we gotta accept.

@carolmiles7474

Жыл бұрын

Assange has said a few things about sciencetology.

Great interview 👍

🙋‍♀️ Howdy, Andrew & Alex. Here on the rewatch crew about to dive in soon. See you on the other side. . .

100k, congrats!!

Wonderful interview. I am a sub of both of you❣️

Congratulations on 100K!! 🎉🎊 🎉

Congratulations on reaching 100K subscribers! ❤😊

Excellent discussion. I remember the book shop in Tottenham Court Road ! That in itself was extremely weird.

Congratulations on 100,000!!!!

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you!!

Well done Andrew 100k.

Would love to see you & Alex do a visit to an Org in the U ❤. I took my Mike Rinder bobble head to the Birmingham Org to get a pic for Marc & Claire....massive car park but only 3 cars & didn't see a soul. I was still scared though 😅😅

Almost at the magic number! Can't wait to see that play button.

Oh, and congrats on the 100k good sir 🎉🥳

I really enjoyed the discussion; very insightful. I'd totally watch the two of you visiting an org!

@apostatealex

Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@Smorgasbord.

Жыл бұрын

@@apostatealex 😌

Almost at 100k 🙌

I want to hear more from this guy, really dig into the ins and outs. Great guest, great podcast. Cheers.

@apostatealex

Жыл бұрын

Thank you Sla va!

@ClamMan1989

Жыл бұрын

@@apostatealex I say Slava, you say Ukraini 😉

Great interview!!!! 99k now!!!!! WOW!!!

@ellieisnotcool

Жыл бұрын

99,1k ;D

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, you are so supportive :)

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Yessss!

@karinkrog369

Жыл бұрын

@@AndrewGold1 With great reason !!!

Yes definitely go visit. Would be fascinating.

Best Audio on KZread!!💥💯💥

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate that! I put a lot of effort into making it look and sound good. :)

@shelleykapp9637

Жыл бұрын

​@@AndrewGold1 It shows. Well done.

Great discussion. 💜 Something I think that doesn’t get mentioned enough when discussing L Ron Hubbard is that he was a *pulp fiction* writer & wrote in all sorts of genres under various pseudonyms. Romance, western, sci fi, he did it all & was paid a penny a word. His books were the inexpensive sort sold in checkout lines at drug stores & the like. 📖 He still holds the Guinness world record for most prolific writer. He had a special affinity for sci fi, as did most of his friends who were writers, and they’d meet often & spin tales with each other. I’m sure by his very plagiaristic nature he “borrowed” plenty of ideas from those around him. Wouldn’t it be fun to be a fly on the wall in those days? I think it trained him so he could come up with pretty fantastical stuff on a moment’s notice when he eventually turned his attention to Scientology.

@laneneal3510

Жыл бұрын

I understand he was very sadistic

@urutherford

Жыл бұрын

I read a lot of his SF as a child so when I eventually heard about Dianetics I simply couldn't take it seriously. In the early seventies I came across other SF writers exploring the theme of messiahs and prophets. I think Robert Silverberg was one. They depicted cynical salespeople putting on a messianic facade and also truthful dupes being manipulated by politicians. I think I've been innoculated against cults from a young age.

Bella was adopted as well as her brother. Great video!!!

I would notice immediately if they charged on my card without my permission.

A Peep Show reference! I knew there was a reason I liked you Andrew.

I've just found on Google maps the Edinburgh building guess where this SP is going soon 😂

@troysnuffles

Жыл бұрын

Send pics to Marc Headley for his show.

sun shinning in hawaii heavy rain clouds on the mountains,wanna hear this one lol

What an interesting interview

@apostatealex

Жыл бұрын

Thank you, I'm glad you thought so!

Sound like the description of people describing what it's like to suffer from the toxic behaviour of narcissistic abuse.

Nice studio setup!

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Scientology taught me ear stretching is a questionable fashion statement.

@apostatealex

Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you took something away from this video, at least!

Interesting that this cult taught him not to listen to his own feelings. That even Scientology kicked him out he struggled to get back in.

@apostatealex

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Thank you

Oh, I missed this premiere. Thanks Alex! His story of how he got in was interesting, for sure. I think it was his age and that maybe he needed to feel like he belonged to something- At that age, belonging is very important, no? Also, there is a powerful lure to the idea of belonging to something secret. It makes you feel special. Anyhow, I have a really hard time reconciling the fact that Scientology exists in England. And that the St. Hill is a Manor House😐 I don't even want to look at what it looks like... I want a Manor House(and a castle wouldn't be so bad, either😏)for me! It's no fair Hubbard got to have one! And for his nonsense group, too

@bluetoad2668

Жыл бұрын

Have a look on Google maps

Ppl still affiliated with Scientology are ridiculous.

@karsten9895

2 ай бұрын

I never understood the appeal Scientology has for some people on a personal level. I got hold on a copy of "Dianetics' in 1988 as an adolescent (in the GDR even) and saw through the bullshit right away. Took me just a couple of pages. I agree that they're praying on the vulnerable. However, though I would not fall for their BS, I would say I was still vulnerable as a young man. I guess, you've got to be vulnerable a CERTAIN WAY so that you might be in danger becoming a victim of them. 'Victim' I think is the key word here. People who fall for their lies are victims. I don't feel the need for looking down on them, because I was lucky to be vulnerable in a different (maybe just a little less than them) way. If you say that you under no circumstances couldn't have ended up being fooled by them - if you're not vulnerable at all; good for you! But it's the result of lucky circumstances that you happened to grew up in. Righteous anger against that evil cult is necessary to bring it down. Certainly! But equally necessary is empathy and compassion for the victims.

Congrats on over 100k subs! I was here early on and am so impressed with your subs growth!

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Aw thanks for sticking with me Andrea !

Love u Andrew and all your content and i love u too apostate Alex! I fist heard of Alex from (A) Aron lol

OMG was he gullible. This is painful.

Yes, I would love for both of you to do a custom world tour of Scientology centers and get it all on video. Your followers may enjoy seeing the difference between each location (i.e., is it open, staffed, what do they do?). I've never seen it before. Could be interesting.

he thought he was intelligent but turns out he was just the opposite.

Amazing interview. One of the best I’ve watched with a former Scientologist. I always look forward to new posts from both of you.

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

Interesting stuff. :)

Yeah! You guys are together!! Love you both. Tom and Nicole didn’t have any bio kids. The only bio kid Tom has is Suri. Nicole had a miscarriage right before Tom filed for divorce.

been passed the plymouth org and seen their stall in the market.

I would love you to have more conversations with him, his story is fascinating but also a true insight into the damage scientology causes. I truly hope he knows just how strong he is to talk about his experiences. I take my hat off to him. 🎩

@apostatealex

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your kind comment, RA.

Love it.

100,000 I knew it. 🎉😂❤ b4 ya birthday 🎂 🥳 congratulations 🎊

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Yes! Thank you!

Good very interesting 👍

@AndrewGold1

Жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

The fact that David Miscaviage was so threatened by and concerned about Kidman, and seemingly not concerned at all with Holmes, tells u all you need to know about those two very distinctly different marriages.

Seven years later and I am still operating on Scientology principles. It still effects my thinking, my behaviour etc. And quite franckly a part of me does not want to let go because the personality overlay that it created ensures that I can no longer be hurt or controlled. I had alot of anxiety before Scientology which I no longer have. I can't even begin to explain the mind xxxx . I feel like I have lived in multiple Sci-fi movies like equilibrium, the giver etc.

@apostatealex

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for your comment, this is totally relatable and I'm here to tell you, you are not alone.

@lindac6416

Жыл бұрын

Sad 😞

@KAREN-rx9pq

Жыл бұрын

Humankind doesn't need cults like Scientology we all can create our own reality just by meditating and being present with oneself! Imagination creates!

@AA-lq5pu

11 ай бұрын

@@KAREN-rx9pq Amen!

@AA-lq5pu

11 ай бұрын

@@apostatealex Thank you Alex. I had my comments turned off for months and only see this now. Have you been able to unravel the mental effect Scientology had on you yet? Is there an estimated timeline to when I will begin to feel like my kind empathetic former self? I was also part of GAT II

Scientology plays on the same impulse that people have for self help books, it's a spectrum obviously but when something appears to help and work it can suck you in.