*Inb4:* ThE CrOwn Is SupPoSed To dO ThAt!!

@andrewhannam.

5 жыл бұрын

Keeps the movement safe, it was part of the design.

@thetimeteller

5 жыл бұрын

😂 impressive design.

@andrewhannam.

5 жыл бұрын

It is interesting for sure. I remember watching a video on how the Vostok was designed, it made me appreciate it a bit more. I love Russian watch history and brands, yet was never a fan of these Vostoks (even if they are iconic and very interesting) Edit: The SKX is a much better watch and I love the SKX and Seiko divers, used them for diving in the late 90's as computers weren't widely used. (PADI certified rescue diver)

@brilliantradience

5 жыл бұрын

The Time Teller InB4 Invicta comments lol

@zakofrx

5 жыл бұрын

It's like a CV joint on a car.. It's designed to turn around while moving around its access.. The only down side is if you work on the movement you need it to be set a certain way to avoid trouble.. Its different like the back cover were they made it to not turn around to stop seals tearing etc... while fitting the back.

That "wobbly" crown is is a unique and Brilliant piece of engineering and design. I'm stoned that as an expert reviewer you would have failed to research the details on this...

@petermikus2363

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah it was disignet like that so there was a smaller chance of the crown breaking if it hit something a really good idea imo

@trumanburbank9751

2 жыл бұрын

Sorta

@TheVilkas666

2 жыл бұрын

Not as much of a expert. 5min Google research will give you more info.

@potassiumcyanide3857

2 жыл бұрын

The apparent "expert" is sometimes biased

@alphacenturion1438

2 жыл бұрын

Yup, u said it.

I can hand wind my Amphibia. The crown is designed this way to not transfer its impact directly to the stem which may possibly damage the movement.

@Miguel_GM

4 жыл бұрын

That was what I came to tell.

@johnnywatches247

4 жыл бұрын

That's right folks, the crown is a kind of clutch crown and when pulled out straight to its ultimate hand change position it will engage the stem and turn the hands. The date can be changed when you move the hands past the 2am or so and back past 9pm to return over to the 2am... Back and forth, back and forth. A bit of a pain, but do-able.

@harrisn3693

4 жыл бұрын

Jeff Rey He is a COD fanboy, those jackasses be str8 up hating anything Russian.

@johanaxelsson

3 жыл бұрын

@@johnnywatches247 Exactly, that is how it behaves and how the construction is made. The reason for the wobbling crown is, as we all know, that the watch is actually intended for real use on big depths. The quick set feature for the date is actually working quite nice.

@patrickcuriston4255

3 жыл бұрын

@@jeffmsc I get your point, but "fair more advanced than anything else he wears" might be a stretch considering the large amount of luxury peices

Always amazed that so many watch reviewers don't know that the "wobbly crown" is actually designed to wobble that way.

@thetimeteller

3 жыл бұрын

Keep telling yourself that, champ!

@alexandruconstantin5921

3 жыл бұрын

@@thetimeteller bro, do some research, don't make a fool of yourself, there is a video from Wonders of Watchdom that clearly explains why it wobbles. It's a great design, if you smack the watch in the crown nothing will happen to the movement, and it's operation is very easy to understand, after you use it like, once... This video you made is low effort crap made for clicks, zero research. Unsubbed, by the way, pay more attention to your "reviews".

@alexandruconstantin5921

3 жыл бұрын

I came to the conclusion, after watching many of his videos, that he's a troll that makes all of these videos for clicks and attention, this particular video was painful to watch, he acts like he knows shit about watch design and engineering. This dude really needs to stop being so pretentious when he does zero research.

@LowenKM

Жыл бұрын

@@thetimeteller Geez, not just a disagreement, but dismissive and kinda 'haughty' about it too... charming?!

@jacoba756

10 ай бұрын

@@thetimetellerbooooo, what a childish response

Also, for anyone that’s not familiar, the caseback and acrylic crystal are engineered to compress under pressure and increase water tightness as you dive to lower depths. The shape of the crystal was calculated and designed to maximize water tightness while providing clearance for the hands at depth once it begins to compress and flatten closer to the watch face. It of course moves back into its original position under normal atmospheric pressure. The two part case back is designed to prevent damaging and shearing the large sintered rubber gasket, unlike most other dive watches with one piece gaskets. The Vostok gasket also compresses and flattens under pressure. As it flattens it increases surface area which increases water tightness. Pretty ingenious fellows, using water pressure as a source of water proofing

The Vostok just has so much more character. It’s like wearing a piece of history. No one buys a Vostok, because they want the most accurate, well built watch available. People buy them because they are interesting and have character.

@ChristAcolyte

4 жыл бұрын

kind of like why people buy ak's

@harrisn3693

4 жыл бұрын

Based Zoomer but AKs don’t jam up like American M1s..... sod off yankee fanboy.

@Rick-ve5lx

4 жыл бұрын

I have a 200m 31 jewel Komandirskie which is really an Amphibia with thin sword hands. The Vostok easily beat my SKX in accuracy at 2-4 spd from the factory. It’s a gift at $60 against the SKX which, apart from lume, is worse. Stick it on a jubilee and it arguably even looks better, particularly with the domed acrylic.

@MulaBatiswaHutagaol

3 жыл бұрын

Well said, bro

@whatsindansgarage2542

3 жыл бұрын

I know folks regulate it to within the cosc specs.

Female viewer here. I do have the Vostok Amphibia for ladies ,I liked because it’s hand winding,small and affordable price for me.

If you want to experience a 90s diver as it was in the 90s, Skx. If you want to experience a 70s diver as it was in the 70s, vostok.

@sebastiantorres1

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, it's a 1967 diver watch. Neither the movement nor the case have been changed in design so far.

@GeckoCkCkCk

5 жыл бұрын

@@sebastiantorres1 The Amphibia cases have been updated slightly, but have all the same interface dimensions. So all parts are interchangeable with vintage. The older Vostok Amphibias weren't automatic, but they are now.

@sevenin1

4 жыл бұрын

Watch the Perrett video you might learn a little something.

@garywarner7541

3 жыл бұрын

Greg Morrison ... correct 👍

A quick google search could have eluded the mistery of the wobbly crown on the Vostok. It would have been an interesting fact to provide your audience with.

I was recently made aware of the design history of the Vostok. The crown was discussed at length, and it turns out to be a design choice. The case turns out to be a spartan implementation of a compressor case, the stem is two part to protect the movement from impact, you pull the crown slightly when setting the time, because there is an actual clutch built into the Vostok's crown. So this is a conscious engineering effort with a decided purpose. It's a shame that your review completely misses out on the technology. For years I have not bought a Vostok Amphibia, and I do own a Seiko Mini Turtle, an Uemura, and I had two SKXes and a Stargate. So yes, I am a Seiko fanboi. But the first thing I did when I watched a proper review of an Amphibia that goes into the history and engineering choices, is go and buy a Vostok. Shame that you diss a design that in my view is something the industry can learn from.

GREAT VIDEO. I have had them all Rolex, Omega, Seiko, Tag, and I now have to say this for Bostock/ Vockst. The watch Design is 80 years old and is built like a tank. The automatic movement will run for 10 years or more without a service or may outlive your life. It can keep better time than some Seikos. Unlike the Seiko that will stop running within 5 years and will not even try to keep time, your outdated underdog Vockst will be still running and keeping good time. The Vockst has gone to 800 meters before the glass and the back of the watch popped !! As with most watches even the Seiko, if you live where most of the year is without Sunshine, you must put your watch under a light for one full minute for the lume to work all night. And all for the price of a take away, or what you call a take out with 2 bottles of table wine lol you can buy this amazing underdog of a watch called Vockst. Eamon in ireland.

@nik78757

2 жыл бұрын

Boom! 😎

I have watches worth a few thousand yet one of my favourites is still my vostok amphibia - great watch and bulletproof!

@bittmanbobby

5 жыл бұрын

I own 4

@johnrooney507

4 жыл бұрын

Just ordered first one, hope it is cool!

@Chazman1946

4 жыл бұрын

I own 2 Subs, a Breitling, 3 Tags, a Longines LLD and half a dozen Seikos, my 3 Vostoks get more compliments and indeed more wrist time then any of my "High Priced" spread ones! You wear these for fun, history and conversation pieces, not watch snobbery!

@johnrooney507

4 жыл бұрын

@@Chazman1946 I enjoy not having to set the date on it, comfortable to wear, and distinctive.

@fernandogabriellagomartine5186

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnrooney507 I just bought an Amphibia on Ebay. I loved its design and its history. I saw a video showing that it resists 500 meters of pressure! www.ebay.com/itm/Vostok-Amphibian-Watch-420374-Automatic-Military-Sailing-Russian/253999930414?_trkparms=aid%3D555018%26algo%3DPL.SIM%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D60407%26meid%3D916f787365764a69b243f0e453c08455%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D8%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D253972134775%26itm%3D253999930414%26pmt%3D1%26noa%3D0%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982 kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2ie29OLfKXMZco.html

I never thought I could love a watch more than my SKXs... Until I got a Vostok Amphibia. 80% Russian Tank 20% Swatch. Love the Vostok.

But that Vostok Crown is far less "wobbly" than most heads of The SKX fanboys 👍🐸

@desireless4092

3 жыл бұрын

Vostok fanboys aren't any less annoying.

You erroneously said that the Vostok doesn't feature manual wind. As for setting the time, you need to keep a small amount of outward pressure on the crown so the crown and stem lock into place. There is a clutch system that prevents shocks against the crown from transferring to the movement.

@thetimeteller

5 жыл бұрын

Ooooh. My bad. So it’s just a sh*tty design. 😂🤷🏻‍♂️ Anyway- mine doesn’t handwind or hack.

@24h_

5 жыл бұрын

The Time Teller I don’t think it’s a terrible design, but we can all have different opinions 😊 As for your issue with hand-winding and setting the time, perhaps something broke (the keyless works or the gear that engages the ratchet wheel)? All Vostok movements have hand-wind with no doubt about it. The automatic movements are essentially the same as the hand-wind calibers with an extra module added on top (apart from some other very small changes). Hope that helps and have a great day! 🤙

@rsagape7300

3 жыл бұрын

@@thetimeteller Yeah make an ass of yourself.

@petermikus2363

3 жыл бұрын

@@thetimeteller the crown is wobly so it hadles impact better so the connecting rod or crow doesn't break

@alekswanson7309

2 жыл бұрын

@@rsagape7300 Glad I've watched this video and saw his comment. After this I think he's just an obnoxious guy with money to run his hobby if you can call it that. He didn't take a second to research this watch, and he shits on people who designed it despite many limitations. And I'm not even a Vostok fanboy, a good watch with a history is just that, and it deserves respect.

Do your homework, the Vostok DOES hand wind … shame on you.

@bahorized

4 жыл бұрын

@@ronobvious9619 Hes just little troll trying to earn more attention by intentionally shittalking :)

@johnnyasus86

4 жыл бұрын

Jim Rees hahaha calm down little boy, they are still rubbish either way.

@marioaquilina248

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyasus86 These are good watches Mr.,not a Rolex of course but they do it's functions equally for a huge lower price tag.

@johnnyasus86

4 жыл бұрын

Dead Monk yeah, not accurate or nearly as good of quality as a Chinese watch

@marioaquilina248

4 жыл бұрын

@@johnnyasus86 Yes Chinese watches are good too why not. I like all watches for they are not for their price. I own both SKX007 and the Vostok Amphibia and I assure you they are superb value. All they do is tell the time like a 10000+ Euros watch does. Wish you good health and stay safe !!

The Russo-Japanese War Colorized 1905

@robbytolentino6088

5 жыл бұрын

orion deschamps AHAAHAHHAHAHAAHA

@nevahenuf

5 жыл бұрын

Nicely done.

The Bi-Directional bezel was also designed without ratcheting since once you go below 10 feet underwater the pressures push it down and keeps it from accidentally rotating. A dive watch with a faulty ratchet could still be bumped into and knocked out of place.

Regardless of how wanky the crown feels, it is quite functional once you get used to it. I believe in a torture test, the Vostok will easily out last the Seiko. There are videos on KZread where people have thrown Amphibians off bridges, froze them in ice blocks, and run over them with a car and they still keep running! They’ve been the official watch of the Russian army & navy since the 1960’s. They’re not refined but they are extremely rugged.

@LowenKM

Жыл бұрын

Yep, and there's a reason they call 'em the "AK-47 of Watches"!

I wear my Amphibia’s everyday. They absolutely ooze character. I love the style, simplicity, Heritage, ingenious Case-back design and all its little quirks. Including the wobbly crown, Poor mans hack and ‘semi quick date set’ they are a joy to own and modify 🤟

@harrisnottas9028

4 жыл бұрын

Smart!

@sevenin1

4 жыл бұрын

Me 2, favorite of all my watches 🍻

@bigriceburner

17 күн бұрын

Me 3 and not many know about the poor man's back. I can add with positive sincerity that the poster of this video does not know about that hack either even though he's had his watch for 5 years.

That Vostok Amphibia is ab absolute beast for real I have had mine for over two years now and it just keeps going no matter how much you beat it. Also, a little bit of white toothpaste and a cotton cloth and you can keep that acrylic crystal looking like new.

I’m in my 60’s. I’ve owned a Seiko monster for ever. Went diving with it many times, took it with me as I crisscrossed the country as the driver of a eighteen wheeler. It’s visited a jeweler once. Still great. I’ve owned a Vostok, not as long and it hasn’t been around like the Seiko, however it also, like the Seiko, feels like a tank. The crown is what it’s meant to be. For diving, the bezel should be unidirectional. For everything else it does what it’s supposed to. If you don’t like us older things and want to know what time it is, buy a digital thing, or take a peek at your phone. Both these watches are old but great. And inexpensive.

Can I just say the Vostok also comes on a 38-39mm it’s great I’m 14 and for me it’s perfect I’ve been scuba diving with it and it’s amazing

The Vostok's crown is connect to the stem by a clutch to prevent it from getting damaged it struck. To set the time you have to pull on the crown to put tension to engage the clutch while turning. It does feel super weird the first time your set one.

The crown is supposed to wobble like that. I've heard it's because the crown is separated from the movement in a sense to help prevent being damaged from shocks

@ekremkarabagdas692

4 ай бұрын

.

I have a Vostok because it is all I could afford. I take it surfing using it as a timer and the bezel doesn’t move. You can increase the tension as well if you want. Also use around garden digging mowing wipper snipping etc never had any problem. However do want a Seiko diver. Saving hard for a turtle. Good video thanks

@ModernRegimen

5 жыл бұрын

I went exactly the route you went. Vostok then SKX013. It's a world of difference. Especially from Vostok to Turtle I imagine. When I sold my Vostok, I forgot I ordered a glass caseback for it which arrived weeks after I sold it. So now I gotta buy another Vostok to experience it with a exhibition caseback lol

@vladtheimpaler5090

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/nJ-cxZRuqsLZlag.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmyMkpSDes6phZs.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/qqaIscZvlbLJd6g.html

I bought a Vostok based just on the price i wanted a auto watch that i could beat on and not worry about and here in australia a seiko skx is almost $300 where as a vostok in $80 so it wasn't a hard choice

@alalamari

5 жыл бұрын

trevor annells same here! I know this isn’t a comparison between THREE but Orient watches, Mako/Ray are also better values due to price and what’s offered compared to the SKX!

@a.nd28

5 жыл бұрын

How did the Vostok hold up? Do you recommend it?

@trevorannells1197

5 жыл бұрын

@@a.nd28 it's been holding up really well have no problems with it at keeps time just like it did new and still just as water tight as ever, it's been one year so only time will tell if it holds up 5 years from now

@trtmrt2203

3 жыл бұрын

@@a.nd28 I have an Amphibian. I do everything with that watch on my wrist. Swimming, snorkeling, playing soccer for already one and half year. No complaints at all. It's a very durable timepiece.

@Improviser583

3 жыл бұрын

Hi sorry ifs a bit of a reach since this is 2 years ago but is there a place to buy a vostok in Australia or is it through meranom?

The crown is designed to move (wobble). Its a shock resistant feature in the Vostok. Actually a really good engineering feature.

@maxmixer

3 жыл бұрын

It's just a thrown together review, with no research being done before the waffle ;)

Hi there, I have a SKX009 and Amphibian scuba dude. I love both but I want to stand up for the VA. Yes, Vostok crown freaks you out but you get use to it. I think it was designed like that to protect the movement in case of bumping. The watch is Russian it's made to do the job without smiling, not fancy, just a watch you can bit and not be worried about. The vintage look is great. Seiko...come on is Seiko

@vladtheimpaler5090

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmyMkpSDes6phZs.html

The wobbly crown feels naff but serves to stop shocks from a hit on the crown being transferred through the stem to the movement. The bezel was designed to function as it should in water, not out of it. Thus the Vostok is a triumph of function over tactile aesthetics. It is truly a tool, not a toy created to amuse us watch guys. Thus it's the polar opposite of another recent release that you've looked at. For me, the Vostok remains the sort of watch you own because you are an avid watch collector who wants to own pieces with provenance and interesting design facets. My guess is that watch guys will buy both but it's the SKX that will get worn most often as it's an excellent and credible EDC while the Vostok is an esoteric oddity that is likely to spend most of its long life being an unworn curiosity.

@willardhooton920

5 жыл бұрын

David Holland Great points...Vostok most certainly must be understood in order to be appreciated - brilliant simplicity!

@willardhooton920

5 жыл бұрын

grijsje Absolutely...and my Vostoks wind buttery smooth👌

@henrybenrycat1

5 жыл бұрын

I can understand this@@grijsjebecause by comparison, most 7S26 powered watches are kind of boring. But my beater is an 7S26 powered SNX121K that looks like any other Seiko 5 but with romans at 6, 9 and 12. Clean, neat and Explorerish in its neatness, this served me faultlessly at work and play for over a decade. Somehow I cannot believe that a Vostok would fulfil such a role without issue and regular use for a decade must surely lead to a semi opaque crystal. I guess its what we Brits call a horses for courses issue.

@henrybenrycat1

5 жыл бұрын

@@willardhooton920, and of course engaging with oodles of opportunity for amateur modding and customisation to keep it interesting...

@willardhooton920

5 жыл бұрын

David Holland Nice, I’m always a sucker for the Explorer look as I sort of gravitate toward that dial esthetic.. and yes, those SKX and Vostoks are excellent candidates for cosmetic modifications. I personally loath the ss Vostok bezels so I replace them all! My fave has a coin edge bezel with a lumed sapphire Batman bezel insert (120 case)- love the brilliant shine of the beautiful domed hesalite crystaland sapphire insert together! The bezel/insert combo cost more than the watch itself! Topped it off with a NOS circa 1970’s tropic strap - piece looks straight out of the sixties....a $200 standard Amphibia, completely crazy I know, but you’ll never see another one like it!

I'm a Seiko guy for sure, but I do also own a 24hr movement Vostok Komandirskie that I got to test the waters before getting a Glycine Airman Purist. The sliding bezel was actually beneficial at first as I would use the marker to highlight the 12hr time until I got used to reading 24 hour time. Some of their dials are pretty unique looking, so I've pondered adding some more just for kicks, though, I guess modding a Seiko is also an option.

The Vostok Amphibia is an automatic movement with hand winding. Wind it in the first position by winding it upwards. The crown is purposely wobbly to prevent the pin from getting bent if you bang it against something. The crown also has a clutch. It’s not going to move the hands unless you pull it out all the way and hold it out while turning.

Vostok may not be beautiful as Seiko but it is a loot tougher and stronger,seen people freeze it throw it in wall ground mud... And it works man

There is actually a quick set for the day function. Turn it to 8 o'clock then over to 12 o'clock and the next day is set. Repeat till you have it set to your needs. Cheers from Germany. Johnny

The Vostok crown was designed to minimise the risk of damage from bending forces. It is not physically connected and engages via a clutch. I tend to think it is answering a question virtually nobody would ever ask and unnecessary but it was a clever idea. The pressure resistance concept of the Vostok is genuinely brilliant and I really wonder why Western companies have never really adopted it as it allows for quite a lightweight, simple case which can resist very high pressure and the push in rather than screw in back is much better for sealing gaskets.

The bezel is supposed to do that. When reaching the right depth, there is enough pressure for it to work with retention; and upon reaching the desired depth is when divers would set their timing bezels.

@rwirtz77

Жыл бұрын

I put the bezel in different spots and wear my Amphibia everyday and it never moves, i use it to time walks some time or ordering pizza. Hardly life depending situations but it never moves unless you move it.

Ironically, my Vostok winding action is smoother than any watch that I have ever wound! Easier if you tilt crown slightly downward so that gravity keeps crown from screwing back in..

The Vostok is FUN! It’s exciting, it has history. It has literally been in space! It his probably the cheapest mechanical watch you can buy that actually have character and an interesting history. The Seiko is also great. They are great in completely different ways and are in no way competing.

honestly people dont realize it but the amphibia is a VERY important milestone in diver design. they made a diver using completely different and rather ingenious tech. If the amphibia was made in Switzerland it would have looked a bit nicer, and cost thousands more. its a long long list of feature that make the damn think an absolute beast, just not to the naked unsuspecting eye. for example did you know that the acrylic glass bows and compresses the deeper it gets and seals tighter with rising pressure? Or the case back that is designed to compress on a HUGE gasket the deeper it gets, or that the crown is designed that way to prevent transfer of shock and pressure to the stem? or that the bezel underwater is damn near impossible to rotate due to pressure?? unlike any other diver out there, the amphibia gets MORE waterproof the deeper it gets. If amphibia was executed by the swiss, it would have spanked the venerable rolex sub.

the crown has a clutch also helps in absorbing some shock , its been designed to wobble

You can remove the bezel and alter the spring so to is stiffer. Conversely you can spray WD40 to allow it to slide gently.

Vostok =Steve Zissou....both awesome!

SKX all day long... Better in hand and on wrist than in pictures and videos. A must have IMO.

Why put a leather band on a dive watch? Unless you are just posing.

@James-zn4jl

2 жыл бұрын

lmao you never wanted wet leather everytime you dived?

Vostok fixed some issues. My new Scuba dude has far more resistance in the bezel, the date window is now beautifully framed and hand winding is a pleasure. Great vintage dive watch. ☺️

Glad you showed the vostok. I juat learned about them and considering getting one just because it would be cool to have a rissian watch.

So when there's no quickset, does that mean you have to cycle through 24 hours to advance the date several times until you reach the desired date? Isn't that way cumbersome? What's your solution guys? Watch winders? Appreciate some guidance. Thanks!

You can hand wind an Amphibia, actually, it's more effective than the auto-wind

The hardlex on my SKX is scratched to the shithouse and back

The crown I'm sure some have said why but the crown warbles to help with the shock of it getting hit and causing the workings to take shock

I have both and love both. The Vostok can handwind, and actually you can fast set the day complication (not as fast as in the Seiko, but you can, moving back and forward the hands). The Seiko has a better design, in my humble opinion. Thanks for your great videos!

Love and have both! But I love the smaller, lighter Vostok on my wrist (I have the simple, round case).

Concerning the Vostok, it's a heavy duty well made deep diving watch. Review something u know about instead of being unprepared!

I'm just in love with the Vostok 😎

I can’t complain about my Vostok! Gets the job done!

Thanks Jory enjoyed the vid. This one reminded me how much I still love my Vostok!

The wobbly crown is in lieu of protective lugs. You can give the crown a knock and because of the built in wobble the stem won’t break or bend. It’s actually a really clever design feature.

the vostok looks less well finished because it is an effective watch for pure divers (military "cahier des charges")and it's conception results of that. 1)the back case is like you said because it is made in 2 parts,it makes the gasket more durable,it doesn't have to be changed even after intervention on the watch and it is the secret of the ADAPTIVE pressure,the more there is water pressure,the more it resist. 2)the shape and thickness of the crystal are studied for the same pressure reason. 3)the crown is wobbly because there is a clutch system on it!!!!to make the crown disconnected and avoid transferring shocks to the movement!

Nice to know I’m not the only one who wears a dive watch on a leather strap! I have a Citizen Fugo diver on leather.

@vladtheimpaler5090

5 жыл бұрын

Me too. I love to wear my divers on a leather strap.

The date hack on a vostok amphibia is when you go from 9-12 and back repetitively.

This is one of the worse reviews of the Vostok I have seen, there is an excellent video on KZread that explains how and why the watch has this sort of design, I have one of these Vostok’s for years and am very happy with it.

The Seiko SKX's are a really attractive choice for a dive watch, but it baffles me why Seiko doesn't bring them up to date a bit, An NH36 movement with winding and hacking can be had on ebay for about 30 bucks, and not much skill is required to swap out the 7S26, so it's a very common mod, but the difference in Seiko's manufacturing cost would be pennies: why not make that small change? I invested about $100 in upgrades to get an SKX007 with an NH36, ceramic bezel, and a domed sapphire crystal, a product Seiko should be offering.

I think this a fair comparison as I regularly wear both in my rotation. Thanks Jory.

The crown has a clutch so it’s not going to adjust the time unless you pull it out all the way and keep pulling on it as you’re turning it. It’s wobbly because they don’t want it to damage the stem if you bang it against something. You have to admit the engineering behind the Vostok is much more interesting. It gets more water resistant the deeper you go.

Up here in Canada I bought a Vostok Amphibia delivered to my door for 75 USD, an SKX would set me back 250 USD. BTW the crown is supposed to do that for shock resistance and it definitely hand winds. Love love love my Vostok, gets the most wrist time of all my watches.

My amfibia can hand wind...? And you have to pull out slightly as you turn the crown counterclockwise in the first position. And the quick date set is done by going back and forth between 1 and 8.

I'm wearing the Vostok Amphibia for like...8 yrs? Best watch ever, especially on low budget. Yeah, crown feels wobbly, but I got used to that :)

I love my skx, Ive also broken several vostoks, but still liked them when I had them. I did get my first SERIOUS scratch on my hardlex this month though. Dinged it against the corner of one of those stick out tooth brush holders made out of tile some people have on their bathroom walls.

Have both watches and love both but have to agree that the SKX would get the nod over the Vostok. However, the Vostok is a lot of fun and brings a smile to my face. Both are great for mods as well.

@vladtheimpaler5090

5 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/lmyMkpSDes6phZs.html

They are both old, kind of disposable, and fantastic.

The wobble crown is a safety feature unique to the Vostok. If you drop the watch while the crown is unscrewed you won't damage the stem or internal parts.

Extra protection for the movement of the Amphibia with that kind of crown, every aspect in Vostok Amphibia its awesome, but SKX its an icon.

Where did u buy that ambhibia for 60 bucks?

Did you really ignore the SKX ISO Certification?

Great review of two classic watches! The Seiko SKX is a very easy watch to recommend to people not interested in watches who just want a good quality affordable watch. And it is a genuine diver's watch. For not a lot of money you get a mechanical workhouse that will keep going for decades. The Vostok is a more quirky choice but it is also a genuine diver watch and although the mechanism isn't the most accurate it generally isn't too bad and is pretty much bomb proof. What the Vostok does offer is incredible heritage (including being used in space) and some genuinely very clever engineering. Vostok took a very different approach to designing a 20Bar pressure rated watch to Western companies and although the resulting design was born from necessity and limitations of Soviet manufacturing processes it was brilliant. Both watches are worthy of respect and despite being very attainable for people of modest means they offer a great entry into the wonderful world of mechanical watches.

I can't understand all the hoopla about the Seiko 007. I've owned one for about 2 years and can not wear it for more that 2 days before it stops working. Don't know why. I have to put it on a winder every other day. Exchanged it twice from different dealers and still the same problem. I wear it continuously and still needs the winder. Has ANYONE experienced this problem???

@kevt9442

5 жыл бұрын

I haven't. Mine starts as soon as I put it on.

@blackhawk2475

5 жыл бұрын

@@kevt9442 Glad to hear it. Mine starts also. It just don't continue to run for more than 2 days of continual wearing. Still a great watch. Thanks for your response.

I find it interesting how things made in certain countries give off a certain vibe. Japanese watches seem to have many of the qualities I acossiate with Japanese cars. The same goes for the Russian watch.

I have both too and like them for different reasons. Wearing the Vostok makes me feel like a character out of a Bourne movie.

There’s a clutch on the Vostok. That’s why it didn’t move the hands for you. You were in the winding mode. You had engaged the clutch.

Correct. I have both as well. Love them both for different reasons, but if I had to pick one...skx.

The Russian IS a hand wind, and the crown wobbles based on the design saving the stem from getting bent due to being hit or bumped.

Loved the idea of you bringing in this possibly being a watch to give to your kid. My son is 3 1/2 and I’m already plotting what I am going to give him! Thanks Jory

"Sometimes...once in a while. Ope!!"-proceeds to set time. Still pretty insane you can get that kind of watch for $60-$80.

I just ordered a Vostoc amphibia 640 scuba dude…no scuba diver though…is this a variant of this fine watch?

The vostok crown is supposed to be wobbling to give a tolerance of play so the pin doesn't get bent

The Vostoks come in many many different case sizes and shape options, as well as dials. Many are 39-40mm. Of course, most ppl replace the bezel with stainless ones and get Seiko inserts or similar. The bezel action can be adjusted by changing the shape of the brass spring wire which fits inside. I replaced it with a stainless spring wire found on ebay, works great. For what it's worth, some of these are coming from the factory with stainless crowns now too, not chromed base metal. Not sure if that is the case for all of them but the one I just bought did.

I wish I knew what reference/movement my Amphibia was because it has hand winding and a nearly silent automatic balance. And by that I mean it's way quieter than my SNK805, which uses the same 7S26 movement as the SKX007. That being said I love both to death and enjoy watching the lume slowly fade on my nightstand as I go to sleep.

The crown is de-coupled by a clutch mechanism so as to isolate the movement from shock that could normally be induced by shocks to the stem. In order to change the time you have to hold the crown out board so as to engage the clutch, and then the hands will move. It’s a very very old fashioned and non-commercial way of building a watch

Have you noticed the date function is not central in the date window? I thought mine was defective, or I had ruined it by the suggested 'quick date' method, but looking at various videos, many of them seem to be like it. The date is central up to the 19th and then sits high for the rest of the month. Another Vostok quirk but no one seems to have noticed it. That's what you get for being OCD 😅

I've owned the "Scuba Dude" Amphibia before and yeah that crown issue freaked me out making me believe my eBay purchase was a sham. However, the crown's wobbliness from what I've heard/read is to alleviate shock if the crown was ever forcefully struck in order to preserve the movement. However, idk if that's fact. It's also a design that never changed since its introduction.

The bidirectional bezel will tighten up at depth, as the water pressure builds up, again a clever design feature...

@Nico-be7ic

Жыл бұрын

Vostok fixed some issues. My new Scuba dude has far more resistance in the bezel, the date window is now beautifully framed and hand winding is a pleasure.

Wait, what, no hand wind on the vostok? Takes a lot of rotations, but it can hand wind. This video is adequate for the average consumer, who's concerned about the overall aesthetics and basic functionality of the watch (i agree the bezel and lume on the Seiko are vastly superior... seems like just a shame that even today Vostok hasn't managed to figure out a unidirectional bezel). However, you fail to mention why the vostok is so loved and has such a cult following. It's design is unique; it's method of water resistance is completely different to that of other watchmakers, and if it had been developed in Switzerland (or even Japan for that matter) it would be hailed as a groundbreaking design. Furthermore, this unique design makes servicing the watch much easier and cheaper than servicing other dive watches (no need to replace the O-ring each time the watch is opened, for example). This video in fact displayed your ignorance of the key design features of a watch that you claim to have owned for many years. As a watch reviewer, you should know not only the superficial functions and aesthetics of your watch, but understand the design of it as well; this is especially true if it is a watch that you own and are familiar with. The disparaging comment about the wobbly crown, which yes is a bit concerning for first time users who don't expect it, should have been qualified with a statement about the crown's functionality and HOPEFULLY even include a brief history of the watch's design. I hope the next time you review such a historic watch you will do your due diligence.

@GonkOrange

5 жыл бұрын

forums.watchuseek.com/f54/vostok-amphibia-analysis-design-methodology-491757.html Here's a good explanation of the vostok's wonderful design. For anybody who would like to understand a little more about this historic diver.

@slewisau

4 жыл бұрын

I agree I normally love this channel but this review felt somewhere between lazy and racist.

@thetimeteller

4 жыл бұрын

Are you insinuating that I’m perhaps racist because I have a less that stellar opinion of the Vostok? 😂 To whom am I being racist? The Russians? Boy would my grandparents be disappointed in me... My Russian grandparents. 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

You can hand wind the vostok but it's a bit tricky.

@willardhooton920

5 жыл бұрын

Banjalukajemojgrad. Surprisingly smooth too!

@SubCapt

5 жыл бұрын

Tricky ? It's easy enough to find the right strength needed, pulling on the crown, for it to either hand wind or set time. REally more an user issue than a mechanical one...

@luka..

5 жыл бұрын

Hahaha,ma realno opasno govno je

@ilijablazevski3357

5 жыл бұрын

it's easy once you learn how

@luka..

5 жыл бұрын

@@ilijablazevski3357 The watch is a piece of shiiiiit guys,fuck it...

I had an skx, I bought it because they were supposed to be so great. It wasn't, it never kept good time and died after less than a year. I have several Vostocks Amphibia and komandirskie some from the 70s and all work. Today I'm wearing a more modern Amphibia that keeps reasonable time, 10 seconds a day on average and I love it. I don't think its an accident that the skx has been discontinued and yet you can still buy an Amphibia.

Can you do a video with the srp779 and the skx and give us your opinion of which is an overall better watch?

Only thing that really bugs me with the Vostok is the acrylic crystal. If even look at it too hard it scratches.

@ClearBrookExotics

5 жыл бұрын

Len John But it polishes with a bit of toothpaste 😁👍🏻

About two months ago I bought my very first automatic watch.. because of your video's my first was a skx007.. I absolutely love it! Quick question though; the lumabrite on my skx007 is not centered whit-in the white dots. Is this normal? Gr. Arjan

@blindriv3r

5 жыл бұрын

one of the QC issues he mentioned, so not normal, but accepted within tolerances by Seiko. Same as misaligned chapter rings and bezels.

@willardhooton920

5 жыл бұрын

Justin Bowe I always try to buy J’s if possible, not sure if QC is actually better but I like seeing “Made in Japan” on the dail😎

@arjan2895

5 жыл бұрын

I do have a J version.. but still.. lame misalignment.. @@justinbowe38

Once you understand how the clutch works its easy to wind or set the watch. Under water pressure the bezel tightens up - beats the one direction click bezel which likes to click just past 12 and then I have to wind it around 359 degrees to get it to align again.

Very different watches these two. Both have benefits. But I will say this... if I have the SKX I will also be thinking of other watches like tunas, samurais, etc. With the Vostok... there's nothing like it. But also, its not a war and at the price point, no reason not to have both. I know I do.

I have both Vostoks and a Seiko SKX007. Both are good value but I did find the Seiko keeps better time and is my daily wear. And yes the Seiko has a nicer bezel.