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Love or hate them, the minivan was revolutionary!

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

That it was!

@johnmaki3046

Жыл бұрын

Sorta (kinda) invented by the British, though! NO REAL "genius" concept!

@dazednconfusedrn

9 ай бұрын

@@johnmaki3046nah, the chrysler came out before the espace

i had a '91. Best vehicle i ever owned. Put close to 300 miles on it. It was passed down to my 2 sons and daughter. Went to buy another one in '99, but the prices sky rocketed, and it was cheaper to buy a full size van. Great video btw

I remember alot of this from the 90's-early 00's. My parents had GMC Saffaris all through my childhood and early teens. They went through-and towed-anything.

@marksheiman1538

Жыл бұрын

Amen to that. The only problem I had was that I had to learn to load my ASTRO between the axles. Come on GM make a variation that has doors on both sides,and electric.

@bobhill3941

Жыл бұрын

@@marksheiman1538 Yeah, I know what you mean, when dad would drive us somewhere and mom would call "everyone bail out!" My brothers and I used to "race" to be first out!

Love the minivan. We had '98 Caravan. Roomy, tons of space, and was even great in the snow. I hope they make a comeback.

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching. Never had a mini van but neighbors did!

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

Nah ... their time in the sun is finished. Toyota makes a great one, but people are not buying minivans. They really arent. Chrysler went one too far with their Pacifica. Nice, but too expensive & too late. Smaller families/ now more separate smaller cars are now in the driveway. Fewer soccer moms.

Well put together video. You covered everyone in the segment and the changes in the segment as well. Liked the video footage mixed with the photos as well. Once again you see the effort in this video. Thank you.

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

Thanks Olds98!

I love me a minivan!! Have owned an Aerostar, a Eurovan, and a Routan. Such practical serving transportation.

I’m 26 yo male and I drive a 2018 Dodge Grand Caravan , ABSOLUTELY LOVE MINE, use to be a diehard Silverado driver but then came across this for a good deal and it has been the best vehicle I have ever owned. Hauling 8 sheets of plywood inside, while pulling a 2500 lb trailer it still has pep

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

Hey guys, I never had a mini van but they were everywhere in the eighties & nineties!!! Thanks for the comprehensive look into the mini van!!! 👍👍🙂

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching!

@johnmaki3046

Жыл бұрын

Truthfully, MoPar minivans were/are A CUT ABOVE!

@johnmaki3046

Жыл бұрын

Had four (different brands), they were all VERY NICE (drive, and USEFULNESS)! A GREAT CONCEPT, even though the BRITS were MUCH AHEAD! Iacocca made this "an American Origional", though!

I installed alot of mobile car detailing setups, water tank, pressure washers hose reels and generators great room.

Chrysler Pacifica with a built-in vacuum cleaner. Ever met a three year old with dry Cheerios in a snack bag!!! HELLO!!!

@bc5441

Жыл бұрын

An in-car vacuum cleaner should have been introduced decades ago!

My uncle drove his 2001 Plymouth Voyager until someone turned into him a few years ago and it was totalled. Great van. He replaced it with a Toyota Sienna.

My family had the mighty Astro van LOL a 1986 4.3 V6 four-speed automatic it was the CL. It was two tone red and silver with a red interior. Three weeks after my dad bought it he took it to some detail shop for vans and had a roof rack, ladder, running boards, and mud flaps put on it. For 1986 the van was fully loaded power windows locks Rim package fog lights eight passenger seating. AM FM cassette deck with equalizer. Van was all original and unfortunately with just over 100,000 on it someone ran through a red light hitting the front end and totaled it. The van was fun to drive. Had plenty of power and we got a lot of compliments everywhere we went. It was one of the most reliable vehicles in the neighborhood. A lot of people in the neighborhood went for the minivan craze. We purchase the 86 Astro van, the neighbor across the street purchasing 85 Caravan, 2 Doors up the road the person purchased a Toyota hiace an 1986, catty-corner to the left somebody purchase a 1988 Mitsubishi van. Around the corner a family drove a 1986 Aerostar. We were the only ones that still had our van running in 1994 before the accident. Everyone else's was dead from too many miles engine failure transmission failure it was interesting because when you open up the hood of our 86 Astro van it's still had all the dealership markings and labels on it because the darn thing just ran and ran and ran. LOL a great van with a lot of great memories!

i don't care what anyone says, MINVANS KICK ALL KINDS OF ASS! The space, car-like driving experience & getting through the snow. Kick these 'crossover SUV's' to the curb!

My parents had an '84 Voyager. We were the envy of neighbors for quite a while.

I was a kid when the Plymouth Voyager came out. Still remember the uproar. Every family had to have one.

Had two Mini-vans. Still have my 07 Dodge Caravan as a winter beater/ salt magnet. Lots of speed tape. Within two months I will have 300,000 km on her. My first one, 1993, had 525,000 km on her ( two trannys though). The second one was 'FREE' lol Cheap parts/ easy to fix/ seldom ever died on me/gonna miss them. Changed the oil every 3,000Km. That was the secret to that great/gas-guzzling 3.2 engine. Fresh oil and filters. Bought a 2023 Toyota Corolla Cross. Just me now. I do not need the space or the fuel bill. They were/ are good vehicles for what they were made for.

Video was very well done. Full of information.

Most excellent video as always!!!👍🏼👍🏼

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

Appreciate ya!

@charlesdiecastgarage

Жыл бұрын

@@ThisOldCarChannel wanna hear something crazy??? Autoworld just released a 1/64 of that van that I have been wanting to find and I just found it and this morning you post this video!!

Love your videos!!

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much!

one fact: the first-gen Ford Econoline was based on the Falcon chassis, it wasn't until the second version that it would be built on a truck platform. Its competition was the Chevrolet Corvan, based on the Corvair chassis.

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

True...later in the build. Thanks

Had a ASTRO. Perfect for newspaper delivery when you used containers. Had to replace it when I went thru a major rain storm.put 116k over 4 years and 4 months.

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

Got your moneys worth!

@marksheiman1538

Жыл бұрын

@@ThisOldCarChannel maybe. Wish they kept making them for a few more years.

I love Boca Brothers.

Great vid!!!!!!! 👍👍

Great 👍 review and information ! My parents still owned full-sized station wagons and in the mid 90s ended up buying a Chevrolet Astro which they owned for many years . The Chevrolet Astro gave them many years of reliable service before retiring it .

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

I gotta Chrysler Grand Voyager. Love it. Before that I had a Kia Sedona. They call em MPVs, in Europe an the UK. Being able to hide/stow the 2 lots of rear seats makes all the diff. U can then call it a true minivan, cos that what it becomes....

I had a '97 Ford Aerostar. I bought it in 2003 for $3000. 83,000 miles on the clock, it had been an Avis rental car and it had a bunch of cheap paint work, but the mechanicals were perfect. I used it as an airport car, and in 2004 during Hurricane Charley, it was parked in the employee lot at Orlando International Airport. The winds turned it 90 degrees! That car was one of the best I have ever owned. Lots of cheap materials, but when the radiator failed it cost me $55, since I changed it myself and a failed heater core 6 months later cost about the same. I would still have it but the transmission would "bang shift" after an 80 mph run on the expressway, and a contractor who was working on my house wanted it. I sold it to him on the cheap, but I wish I had not~ I once put 800 pounds of mulch in bags in that car, then a week later took seven people to a museum in Palm Beach~ Minivans are the BEST!

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

I saw one drive by me last summer over in Brantford Ontario. Looked weird and small. They had 'issues' Chrysler dominated for such a long time. And did themselves in with the Pacifica. Too much/ too late.

Our neighbor had the dodge caravan with a 4 speed stick transmission it was a tan gold color and tan awesome…

I am on our 6th mini-van. No children but great for Home Depot/Lowes/other large items to haul (up to 8-feet).

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

Wow! Impressive. Thanks for watching Ebaysrt.

Iacocca was a true visionary

Ha 😁Ha😁Ha😁 Who can remember pre mini van Ford, Chevy, Pontiac family station wagons! Mom and Pop up front us kids in the back!

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

We did!!!

We had an 88 or 89 Dodge Caravan with the 3.6 (or 3.8?). Maroon exterior, maroon interior. It was a great car.

@cards-vs7hv

15 күн бұрын

3.8 bro..3.6 didn't come along for a LONG while

I could be wrong but the first minivan was the Renault Espace in July 1984. The voyager was on november2, 1984, not 1983. Correct me if you can. I do not know if my sources are correct.

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

Would have to look that one up. Seems to me some of the Euro machines tried out North America, but found the water too cold. Remember the Toyota Tercel small station wagon/ mini minivan they made? For quite a few years. They sold/ but rotted away badly here in Canada.

We had a 04 Sedona

The 1984 to 1986 Dodge Caravan and Plymouth Voyager needed a high stall torque converter for the Mitsubishi 4 cylinder with 3 row seating. Make it tow 2400 pounds with an auxiliary transmission oil cooler.

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing Bryan.

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

That Mitsubishi engine was the 'bad choice' to make. The 3.2 was unbeatable, but you had to change the oil every 3,000 Km with a filter if you plan to keep it. The Japanese engine just didn't make the grade. They all had an early death. Mitsubishi just never did well with cars/trucks/ van engines. Always the 'black duckling' worse than Nissan, if that is possible. Early Datsuns were fun though. The 510, 240 Z. Loved them. They are not long for this earth in North America. Lots of manufacturers are going to the cemetery real soon. The way of Plymouth Oldsmobile, Pontiac, all late great rides that just didn't find their way. Hell, GM didn't find its way, except for the exit door. In my humble opinion. Ford, Selente following up. The BIG THREE or the DEAD THREE? Just saying.

I know Chrysler is credited with inventing the minivan, and the Previa was new here at the time. But in fact Toyota had already the HiAce since around. 1968 -69.

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

Well, There were some pretty interesting minivan look a likes back then. For historical purposes it was Chrysler. Thanks for watching Francisco!!

@franciscogonzalez1031

Жыл бұрын

@@ThisOldCarChannel Gotcha. Any chance of ever seeing a video about the Plymouth Satellite?

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

Ya, they did. Still, all of Asia has some weird vehicles that sell well over there/ but would really suck here. North America is big/ Asia is more compact.

It was the rise of the minivan. It was the death of the station wagon.

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

And EV will be the end of travel. It was a hell of a ride, wasn't it? We shall see down the road where we all are going to be. In an electric wheelchair is my future. For me, at my age, it is the dead-end road, The Hotel California in fact. But I had ( to date) 25 vehicles and a lot of fun and payments. That is life.

Lee Iacocca "gave us these dreams"! NEITHER was a bad concept! Both SERVED and were "Americana"! Not GREAT, but VERY GOOD! America (and especially Ford and Chrysler bookkeepers) LOVE LEE IACOCCA!

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

True!

@johnmaki3046

Жыл бұрын

@@ThisOldCarChannel I believe Lee Iacocca, for MANY mistakes, DID GREAT FAVORS TO MOTORISTS!

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

He was a different cat than the standard Detroit type of exec. But then Detroit isn't the same either . Don't drive around there after the sun goes down ... Things change. One day we will all be driving an EV vehicle. NOT

Seems like everyone had one!!

Lest we forget, it was LEE IACOCCA who made the FORD MUSTANG a reality while he was an exec at Ford and later the MINIVAN when he was an exec at CHRYSLER. While at Ford he was also the official company manager of the team of prima donnas, outliers and creative "geniuses" (sorry Shelby) who produced the FORD GT40 so lionized and adored in the movie FORD vs. FERRARI. Less gloriously, he was also responsible for the Ford Pinto. But no one is perfect, after all.

@ThisOldCarChannel

Жыл бұрын

True that Frank. Many greats in the car industry. Thanks for watching!

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

I hear there is a re-make for the movie 'Bullitt' with an electric Ford Mustang & electric Dodge Charger in it. Hmmm, that just doesn't do it for me.

Corinthian leather Caravan lol

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

Aaaa, Ricardo Motalban Apparently, he just made that up on the fly doing the car ad. Soft Corinthian Leather. Selling 4 wheels & a seat is an art form. If that was true, it was brilliant. And where is that 1975 Chrysler Cordoba these days? Where Ricardo M. is in fact.

If the Deuce hadn't been such a jerk and run Lee Ioccoca off, Ford would have had the minivan first and a huge lead over the competition. The price of ego is high. My Dad owned two Dodge Caravans in the late 80s and early 90s. They were great for interstate travel.

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

My dad bought Desotos & Chryslers but eventually moved on to Oldsmobiles. Now they are all gone. Oh, wait ... Selantis came to the rescue for Fiat Daimler Chrysler,, Simca/ Roots group/ and so it goes. They are after all is said and done. Just vehicles to get from here to there with a happy bum. lol All are walking dead or soon will be.

Kia still sells a minivan called the Carnival MPV….. I guess they want to distance themselves from the word “Minivan”…

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

I know. I saw that on the web just last night. Takes you back eh? No Not really. KIA seldom does that without blowing up the engine! maybe it is an electric vehicle? I never look at them. Reminds me too much of cemetery tombstones.

Renault Espace. Search for it guys. Not good work this time Bocca Brothers

What about the Nissan Van, Stanza, Axxess, and the Mitsubishi van?

@luckyguy600

3 ай бұрын

The GMC Astro-van. It was made in Scar-beria Ontario/ but is a mall these days. Mall for a long time indeed!

They took a K car chassis and built up ...

@marksheiman1538

Жыл бұрын

Of course; if it works well use the same chassis for another vehicle. K car chassis:13 different vehicles. If this wasn't successful Chrysler would be a memory along side of Studebaker.

@ralphabreu5022

Жыл бұрын

@@marksheiman1538 Chrysler Corporation didn't have the resources or money to re tool for a minivan from scratch They took a K car chassis and built up and used their 2.2 liter engine in the k car and the 2.6 Mitsubishi engine. The minivan didn't get a 6 cylinder engine until model year 1989 they used the Dynasty and New Yorker 6 cylinder again a Mitsubishi engine.

The Mitsubishi 4cyl with 100hp and blew head gaskets faster than you could come up with $2K to replace it. I’ve owned 2 Chrysler products with the Mitsubishi 4cyl . Both were a POS. Then my Dodge Ram 2500 with the Cummins Diesel and the “Allison” (stamped) transmission, (which went out every 20K miles. So all 3 Chrysler products I’ve owned caused me to NEVER EVER buy a Chrysler product again. Furthermore Chrysler, Ram, Dodge and Jeep are now owned by FIAT that can only build a POS vehicle

My dad has a GMC safari '94. Is a reliable car today un 2023!

Hal Sperlic

I hate the minivan because I replaced the iconic grocery getter with a very bland concept.

@jaedenceron1127

Жыл бұрын

I would agree. A lot of them were unreliable as well. The Honda Odyssey, and Dodge Caravan (family) I can speak of first hand. Both eat transmissions. Best minivan you could’ve got would be the Toyota Sienna.