I don’t think it’ll be a “people’s wagon” when price becomes known.

@XxXenosxX

Жыл бұрын

Going to be 60k at least

@cypvh74

Жыл бұрын

@@XxXenosxX I would guess near $80k for the AWD version.

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

Жыл бұрын

No - its a lifestyle luxury Buzz not a Peoples wagon

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

Жыл бұрын

@@XxXenosxX in America everything is cheaper - they have Buzz with luxury up to the very long version shown here but 60k for this one + might be correct

@EYE50MM

Жыл бұрын

Lol! Great comment, cause it’s true! It’s the “ NOT for most people wagon .”

-Just make this thing gas. -Keep it around $35k -Make a camper van version. -If you do battery at least 350 miles range

It’s amazing that it comes with so many standard features but I hope they also make a cheap stripped down version for people like me. I just want a barebones EV I can lay down and sleep in for camping and road trips. I don’t need heated and cooled massaging seats. They’d be nice but I’d rather pay a few thousand less and go without stuff like that. Honestly I’d rather pay $10-20,000 less and get this in a work/cargo van configuration. No rear seats at all. I don’t have kids. I’ll never use them. They’d just be in my way and take up space. Hopefully they’ll come out with a camper version but I could add the things I’ll need for way less than I’m sure they’ll charge to add them for me. Volkswagen, if you’re listening just make me an empty electric van with two front seats and nothing else! Please?

@monsieurbono

7 ай бұрын

I agree 100%

@Moron101

4 ай бұрын

11:56

Confession, I've watched most of the American reviews of this exact vehicle, and this is the only channel that showed the capability to remove the 3rd row, add to it that they had VW demonstrate how it can be done and you've got an exclusive. Thank you!

Love that the third row is so easily removable and how many configurations it can take. What a great vehicle!

@poplaurentiu4148

11 ай бұрын

For those who want more versatility the Multivan or California is a bit bigger inside-out and might even have optional tent on roof..

@OlsenTheWonderDog

3 ай бұрын

Easily removable? It took three Volkswagen employees several trips to empty out the third row and the trays and dividers…yeah, not really a one man job…

Tommy's presentation skills have come such a long way. He's one of my favorite auto journalists these days. So natural and honest.

@tombishop5835

Жыл бұрын

Don’t need all the animation just the facts and the price .

@magallon643

9 ай бұрын

More than Doug Demuro

@teranmm

9 ай бұрын

He’s just like his pops

@WilliamCWayne

3 ай бұрын

He really has! I haven't been watching much TFL content lately, but it appears he's really coming into his own.

It'll be cool to see a camper bus version of this. The Buzz looks very nice.

@beans2605

Жыл бұрын

That was the whole point of this vehicle imo

@violentdawg

Жыл бұрын

@@beans2605 not really, VW used to have a "campers model". Doesn't matter though because it being electric and today's market it's not going to be a people's bus, it'll be the rich wagon.

@musicalintuition

3 ай бұрын

@@violentdawg Yes, camper van and gasoline. Can't imagine making a roadtrip with that thing and planning my route around charging stations.

Very well done interior design features. If they can sell it at a reasonable price it should be a niche winner.

Should be interesting to see how much range it gets and how much it costs when it arrives here in 2024. 🤔 I'm gonna guess barely 250 epa miles of range and starts at nearly 70k.

@bavariancarenthusiast2722

Жыл бұрын

I guess WLTP 300 miles and it will start 60k USD - if it comes only totally loaded like this one, must be 70k. They are always competitive with their pricing and in America its always way cheaper then in Europe

@krane15

Жыл бұрын

I would agree with upper 50s to lower 60s. It can't be that much more than the 3-4 grand more than the Atlas. As for range, well under 300mi. Which is a big disappointment. A vehicle of this size begs for the cross country and sadly, I doubt it will provide.

@krane15

Жыл бұрын

@@bavariancarenthusiast2722 I agree, to upper 5

@wyrazowfkp

Жыл бұрын

They are already driving in Europe for a few months now so it's not that hard to know price or range :)

@4literv6

Жыл бұрын

@@wyrazowfkp price in the EU isn't in U.S. dollars, and inc vat both not applicable to me. It's also for a shorter wheelbase, shorter range 5 seat version with a 11% smaller battery pack&less powerful motor. I wouldn't mind any and all guesses on price for the U.S. market though? 👍🏻

Thanks for showing the 3rd row removal and reinstallation. Looking forward to getting one when they finally have it available. I wished they had a way to reserve through VW instead of having to beg the dealerships.

@kennethsmedley1976

Жыл бұрын

I reserved my ID 4 directly through VW and chose a dealership for delivery; I don’t see why this would be any different.

@chingwodapigu

Жыл бұрын

@@kennethsmedley1976 VW chose not to do that due to the complaints people had when the ID4 showed up as available in dealer inventories, yet folks with reservations weren't getting their deliveries that they had reserved prior. I would love it if VW could do reservations online, but from all the press releases and video I've seen, it ain't happening for the ID Buzz, so dealer waitlists and markups will be a thing for sure.

@Chris-bg8mk

Жыл бұрын

@@chingwodapigu yep! I had an ID4 reservation almost as soon as it was announced. When they began to trickle out, I canceled due to poor reviews and stealer markup.

A camper version would be nice. It would also be nice to know if ac and heat can be used when engine is off and then recharge periodically as a hybrid does

@smokeymotorsport

Жыл бұрын

AC and heat can indeed be used when the "engine" is off. This is a feature that carries over from the ID3/4/etc

@marcoadamberger4456

Жыл бұрын

I think it would be an europe exklusiv

@dwightk.schruteiii8454

Жыл бұрын

All you have to do is take out the rear seats, somehow cover the latches of the seats and then but curtains, carpet, big pillows, a bong, a baggie full of weed, a box full of syringes, and you should be good to go 😀

@marcoadamberger4456

Жыл бұрын

@@dwightk.schruteiii8454 a cargo van is also available

@ben3989

Жыл бұрын

Engine has to be on to operate the dc/dc charger to allow 12 volt functions to work.

What? No boring colors? How do they expect to sell any in America, the land of the gray truck/SUV? Good job VW.

Tommy, I’m glad you’re taking over TFL EV. You give the tech and cars the proper attention. Great job!

I wish they make one with a regular engine, 500 miles range and fill up gas in 5 minutes 😊

@ryderseppala4465

11 ай бұрын

I agree

Hadn’t seen those tables before in several videos - good job. They also announced there will eventually be a full minimalist camper version! Sounds like the Westfalia with pop top “bedroom” and facing seats with small table in the rear “living room” hopefully! So glad VW is bringing us the LWB 3 row for the US! 👌🏽 Won’t be cheap but will last forever - just like the old ones!!

@celticsfaninthedesert4778

10 ай бұрын

What a crazy statement to say it will be as reliable as the original

VW has a winner on their hands. Looks amazing.

Awesome look! If they can get the price right, I think it could be a huge hit for them

@sports2hedz542

Жыл бұрын

Black is a color too, not as the host mentioned. It was in Doug DeMuro.

I’ve been working for this for more than twenty years.

@8Jallin

Ай бұрын

Uhh

I've been following TFL for around a half decade or so, you guys got me through some rough times. I've always though of you as the wunderkind, the child genius. Now I think of you as just plain genius. You don't need to be any kind of an edge-lord to create captivating content with a signature style and deep-dive know-how. TFL is the Chef John of automotive journalism, and I'm here for it.

GREAT JOB AND REVIEW TOMMY. This is the best video I’ve seen on this

If the starting price can come close to the base Honda Odyssey (~$38k USD), then I think VW will have a real winner.

@almac9203

Жыл бұрын

Zero chance of that price.

@irfanspace

Жыл бұрын

starting is 54K

@robgudat2476

3 ай бұрын

58K

I would love this in AWD, but it needs to have an option of a larger battery pack to go along with that. Ideally would want 350-450 mile range on a full charge and only on the low side of that if they equip it with DC Fast charging similar to what the speed Kia has equipped the EV9 with.

@chags3512

Жыл бұрын

Gonna be about 250 miles range

@Michael-pi8ps

Жыл бұрын

Y’all really want everything and the kitchen sink and you want it for 2.99 a month

@lanceareadbhar

Жыл бұрын

A bigger battery would cost a lot more. It's not aerodynamic by design, which really cuts into the range. The 21 inch wheels cut into the range as well. With fast charging, the range is fine, but the charging infrastructure is still very hit and miss in the US.

@ben3989

Жыл бұрын

Not gonna happen.

@chags3512

Жыл бұрын

@@lanceareadbhar yeah. Everyone just needs to jump on the Tesla network. Which would then need to double it’s capacity

Will the two rear row of seats fold flat to allow you to transport any cargo?

Great review! Our next family vehicle. Will place an order as soon as the order book opens.

I would be interested in it if available in a Cargo Version… with Ford, Nissan, Ram all killing off the small service vans those of us that buy those little vans for service work are running out of options.

@natehill8069

Жыл бұрын

Especially since this one has a single floor level, unlike the original Type 2 where the area over the engine was raised.

@ThatSoddingGamer

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the sad thing is there is a Cargo, it's just Europe markets exclusive. Apparently there are problems with commercial style vehicle imports. Think it has something to do with local vehicle manufacturers pushing for taxes to make it unpalatable for EU and Asian manufacturers to bother. The Cargo is a bit pared down in the personal luxury features, but the cargo area is nice and open. It would probably be good as camper conversion, especially since (unless they've changed things), the centre row remains non-removable (I mean, you CAN remove it, it's not like it's indestructible, but it's not designed to be removed).

I'm liking this! Especially when the rear seats can be removed completely! I wonder if there'll be an option where you can buy it without the rear seating and save a few bucks. I love the color scheme on the inside, but I hope that they'll have some fun colors for the outside. I'm not into blue. The major downside, however, is a gorgeous as this is, if the range is only 200+ miles, that's a deal breaker. There seems to be enough room, especially if there's an option to not have the rear seating, for an extra battery pack or 2. If it were to get 400 or 500 miles per charge, then I'd be very interested. Of course, AWD is a must.

@ZenMon601

6 ай бұрын

Knowing VW like I do, the answer will be no. This is how it was engineered and built, so this is how you buy it. I think they may have learned their lesson with the 3rd row Tiguan option.

@BigEightiesNewWave

5 ай бұрын

Save $100s YES Cargo version is coming.

@BigEightiesNewWave

5 ай бұрын

He stated cargo version for USA.@@ZenMon601

@robarjay

5 ай бұрын

The charge port is not NAS, it is outdated already.

@BlondieSL

5 ай бұрын

@@robarjayDo you mean, NACS? North American Charging Standard? Perhaps you are much more knowledgeable than I on the subject, but I would assume that for such an EV to be allowed into N. America, it would have to have a NACS port with both 120V and 220V (fast) charge abilities like all (most?) other EVs sold here. As nice as this thing is, I think, after all, that I'll stick with our reliable little Honda CRV. I know that I can get from point A to point B without issue and in winter, no issue with heating as with summer, no issue with AC.

It looks really good. Just worry about the pricing strategy and also driving dynamic for LWB is a question mark.

awesome can't wait to see more about this. I honestly think EV Vans or micro busses provide the best over all utility for most families' over SUV's and Trucks. Just wish they would put over 100 kWh battery and similar power features of the lightning.

VWeautiful Fun Colors Hooray! Interior is so bright. Phone holder is genius. SO much space when you remove the backseats.

TFL needs one of these

Thanks for showing the storage capacity of the "bus". I'm up for a D2D run in it if we fold all the seats down and put an air mattress in the back!

Looks fun and cool, hopefully the price won’t ruin it.

Hmm, it would be great if the middle row folded down. My old mini van is great for stuff because the back row folds and then the middle seats come out and you get a huge amount of space for construction stuff. But it still looks good!

@Mr.Honore

Жыл бұрын

Middle row does fold down.

@ghostgoat5508

5 ай бұрын

It does. Pay attention to the video.

I loved this presentation of the VW ID. Buzz!! You have made a wonderful impression on me that puts me in the mood to actually consider purchasing one of these vehicles. Thank you for that!

It is gonna be a weird swap for me when I sell my Plaid X for a Buzz 😂

That sunroof sure gonna be in the way of my pop top.

WOW, got to have one NOW!!! Thanks Tommy

@jayhiggins5239

Жыл бұрын

Next Fall

Really like this design. Lets hope this works out for Volkswagen!

Absolutely love it! Awesome review 🔥🇺🇸🔥

You might want to do winter testing in Colorado for this, have they upgraded HVAC from the regular model... Because it _lacks_ a lot of heating power.

@f.kieranfinney457

Жыл бұрын

The ID4 doesn’t have a heat pump so not likely here either. Winter mileage and charge times will be atrocious.

Nice! Overall, I'm looking forward to it! It's one thing to refer to the original iconic busses, and toss around terms like "throwback," but it's another to blend that old charm into the look of a new vehicle. I think they did a good job. Could they have done more to achieve a better balance between a semi-retro vibe and this new design without interfering with the advancements of the new I. D. Buzz? Of course. Hopefully that will work it's way into the line. The 1/4 windows up front make no sense to me, they just look like faux wind wings (functional wings would've been cooler (literally)). I would have preferred to see round headlights in the front and taillights of a more stylistically vintage design in the back. Nevertheless, I'm grateful the design has been finalized and a VW Microbus design will once again be cruising the streets.

2:08 this Pic has a light bar going all the way down the side that looks really cool. I don't see that in the current one.

nice the center console features a special mode where when the buzz is sold 20 years from purchase date, the center console won't be able to be located to include with the sale! brilliant!

Cool. Price? just asking but those backseat trays seemed pretty weak?

Great review, Tommy. Looks to have plenty of room for us taller/bigger folks.

FINALLY I have been waiting for this EV Great Video @Tommy

@mikembf7777

Жыл бұрын

Also the Tech is very reminisant / Similar to the new Porsche.

really like the ID Buzz. Just surprised that the second row seats do not come our or have a center fold down cup holder arm rest. Will they have the two tone seat?

glad this concept is finally going on sell. cant wait to see all the body kits to make this look like the OG

I wish they would have gone more retro with the exterior (I.e. round headlights and vertical taillights like the original). I also think the range should be 350-400 miles. This vehicle screams to be a highway travel with vacations to explore, but with that range will be nothing more than a city dweller.

@ralfulrich6254

Жыл бұрын

No need to dump it if is empty outside the city. It is rechargeable.

@cartopia6161

Жыл бұрын

Ah, Ralf you are one of those people with ample time on your hands and love to wait. I think you are full of it.

@ralfulrich6254

Жыл бұрын

@@cartopia6161 actually I hate to wait. Charging speed is more important to me than range once you are > 200 miles. Unless you are driving 300 miles every day I think it will be plenty fun on vacations.

@derekkuhl

Жыл бұрын

An EV with a 350-400 mile range is something that does not seem to be on any car makers mind. Shame. I am looking for an EV but they are all city cars and therefore second (or third) cars for me. Vacation travel is out esp for those of us that live in the American west.

Turn the centre console around and there’s a larger sliding drawer for the 2nd row passengers. Drove a Euro one with the family last week

Wonderful features! Nice colors! Not as retro as I thought it was going to be. Still !! 250 miles. Wow camping possible.😊

Looks like a fairly well thought out design. As has been said, I hope the pricing truly retains the ‘people’s car’ attainability that the original vans had. As a grumpy old dude who has owned multiple older busses of both split and bay window iterations, as well as being a design snob, I wish they had spent more thought on making the exterior even more retro. Just using round or oval shapes for the main headlights would have gone a long way… but I understand the need to fit within their current design language as well. Hope to see some of these on the road soon and get to have a look in person!

I want to se a camper version, or even a Westfalia. My only gripe is that huge sunroof. Not a plus in Texas.

Love the looks of this one 💙💙💙

Been waiting 10 years for this. Lived in Germany when it came out, but wanted one for the US.

Nothing but excitement. I can hardly wait!!!

Hey, cool, a microbus for the 1%...the only ones who'll be able to actually afford it!! It's actually cheaper to find a classic VW bus in decent condition and do an electric conversion on it. Seriously, the new one looks great and I'd be really interested in maybe getting it, but I'm not mortgaging my house to do it.

"**Still waiting for a Camper Van instead of a Mini-Van**

Though I maintain that you simply can't improve upon the styling of the original, I have to say that this overall vehicle is actually very well done. I'm impressed.

Hi, can you fit a 4x8 plywood with all seat flat?

Incredibly comprehensive and professional review on an exciting new offering. Well done!

Oh, I really want one of these! Perfect for roads trips and camping.

Wow, back in the 1960s we had the VW vans. They could go from 0 to 60 mph in 2 weeks, 3 days, and 4 hours! They were pathetic then. Now, we have the new model coming out. Good luck on this one!

Im honestly really excited for this. Hope it gets decent mileage on the charge and its not TOO crazy priced

6:40. Leatherette is made from petroleum by-products. i.e. not a sustainable material. Leather comes from cows, which are raised for food and other reasons. i.e., sustainable. That not withstanding, Tommy is awesome, TFL is awesome, this van is awesome.

@MrLM002

Жыл бұрын

Oil is not pumped out of the ground purely to make leatherette, as you stated it's made from petroleum by-products. The ID Buzz uses a ton of oil based materials in its construction besides leatherette. Honestly the whole vehicle is one of decadence and unnecessary use of materials. If VW wanted they could have made it with a cargo floor and easily removable rear seats for practical use as both a people mover and a stuff mover, they could have used manual sliding rear windows instead of electric only ones. I think this vehicle is the Anti Type 2. It's big, heavy, expensive, complex (for a BEV), liquid cooled, no off-road-ability, with a massive front end and huge blindspot creating A pillars. If VW just sold it in single tone paintjobs and didn't try to sell it as a new Microbus I'd have no problem with it as I'd treat it like the VW Eurovan. Instead they play it off as if it is the second coming of Christ. This is an Antichrist.

Looks great! Hope the specs and pricing will be reasonable.

@techvof

Жыл бұрын

Probably be 70k and up like every other unaffordable car 😅

@lesp315

Жыл бұрын

NO and NO.

What gets me about some car releases is that clearly umpteen KZread channels were all invited to some venue to shoot virtually identical videos about a vehicle that they're not allowed to drive or able to draw any conclusions from. And then all those videos drop on the same day.

I like the overall design, except the drivetrain. Too bad it's not a hybrid. I guess that they won't need a Westfalia version if the range is only 250 miles. Those fake vents on the D pillars aren't doing it for me. I like the idea of referencing the Type 2, but the 3 faux vents appear non functional. Not very German IMO, lol.

@lesp315

Жыл бұрын

Yes, they could make them funtional.

Looks great, but that charge port door looked big. I guess they aren't going with the NACS charger?

Am I right or have they forgot to implement a complete railsystem for backseats?;

Your father is really good at these car content videos, but you’ve stepped in and done an AMAZING job. I know he’s proud! I’m sure this will attract quite a following up the pacific from California to Oregon to Washington. Especially retired boomer parents who live near their grandkids. And young families too!

Can't wait to learn more about price and range and such. I have to say, my eyes are on this over the big T brand.

I know a few people who are in wheelchairs and I have yet to see an accessible EV for them. Perhaps this could be it? I know the e Transit has an option but not everyone likes those bus style hydraulic lifts, and having it rear mounted (versus side entry) can be more dangerous in certain situations. I’m thinking with the flexibility of an EV platform, it may be possible to make something from this?

I like the new looks. It brings back so many good memories from my childhood with the original model.

I just realized that this is basically the reincarnation of the Chevrolet Astro and GMC Safari.

Can the center seats be removed as well?

Does the 2nd row seat come out? If get it and make it a camper.

Somehow I feel the seats will be offered in a darker color. Those light colored seats will get soiled fast even though they look nice.

@cheesetomatoes

Жыл бұрын

I only buy cars with light seats and I've never had a problem. A damp shop towel takes care of most, diluted simple green cleans the rest.

Now, do the right thing and make a gas version with a Westphalia camper option!!

These will for sure get wrapped in all kinds of cool colors.

The long-wheelbase model is also sold in Europe. The short-wheelbase model is not sold in the US though. So it is not a Europe and US version. There are differences between the European and the US version due to regulation. I don’t know if the US also gets the 340 horsepower 300 mile range GTX version.

Love the Bus, loved the old ones too. I do think the Canoo will give it a run for it's money.

I'd love to see an even bigger version of this to compete with Ford's passenger van offerings like the Transit 250 and 350

Any word on V2H? With a battery that big, having this as a bi directional home system would be a great feature.

Great to see this. When do we get the Vanagon asthetic version?

can you fit a sheet of plywood in it assuming the seats are removed?

*Damn! So much utility while still being cool! I’m Gen Z and I love it!*

Third row has ton of leg room. I wish they would have pushed the 3rd row a little more forward and give cargo space more room.

@likethewords

Жыл бұрын

Looks like the 3rd row can move forward on a 60/40 slider to get more cargo room.

anyone know where the one best site will be to get info on the vehicle's ability to store a bicycle inside, on rear on a 1Up rack, camping accessories including top-mounted tents, removal of the 3rd AND 2nd row, frig/stove/food cubbies, where all the USB-C ports will be, which ports are charge only vs which will play music in the Buzz, and what the best way will be to go farthest in one of these, which electric charger stations must/can be used for trips out of San Francisco say to, LA, Eugene, OR, Yosemite Valley, etc. Also, many people are now using CPAP machines, can one be plugged into the buzz for overnight use and still have enough charge to get the darned thing to the next charging station? Really too bad it's not hybrid for just that last reason. I'd rather have enough charge to sleep w/ my CPAP in a campground and have gas to get me going, kinda the best of all worlds.

Wish they were also offering the euro short wheelbase version here. Here's hoping they bring a camper back to the US. They missed out on a huge opportunity during the van/overlander boom.

I cant wait to be able to get one of these.

removable seats, or fold down/flat?

Love this. I definitely won’t be able to afford the Bus for at least 3years post release.

I want one. Hopefully it will come with the North American Standard charging connector and access to the Tesla network, just like Ford. That would seal the deal for me.

Been watching this with interest. Would be a great family hauler. Just scared of the price tag

It's cool, but if this is an American family hauler, no cup holders in the back seat except the trays is a huge miss. Kids have lots of drinks and having to have a table folded out as the only option kinda sucks.

I was wondering if the second row folds flat or can come out. Be nice to turn that whole space into sleeping quarters and watch the stars through the glass top

@stephenschroeder6567

Жыл бұрын

He said the second row folds down, but it does not come out.

Ohmygosh!! If I was ever going to buy an electric this would be it

I love this - I will be leasing one - extremely cool vehicle

This will be so dope making it into a camper