The reality of a chaos daemon literally jump-scaring inventors is also a good reason to do some pretty slow research

@TheFatalcrest

Ай бұрын

XD "My lord I've discovered a new array system in this STC- " *Warp Rift tears open a hole in reality* "My Lord. Delete that last transmission."

@spnked9516

Ай бұрын

Pretty hard to encourage innovation when a string of inspiration could lead to accidentally creating a Hellraiser box that summons Slaaneshi daemons to to tickle your taint with crab claws.

@jtjames79

Ай бұрын

​@@spnked9516 That's some kinky heresy.

@Alexander_Kale

Ай бұрын

If magic and spells can be done, then you can probably do magic by accident. The idea of writing a new design, or change an existing design, only for said design to then complete an accidental summoning circle or create a mechanical curse, just because you put the wrong thing into the wrong place is so very much 40k....

@MrPlainsflyer

Ай бұрын

@@Alexander_Kale exaccccttttlllyyyyyyyy

Tech Adept: what if we try refilling the ink cartridges rather than forging new ones? Tech Priest: ... *Charges Plasma Pistol*

@angryzergling7832

Ай бұрын

Yeah that isn't just criminal it's straight-up heresy. Even today.

@Prich319

Ай бұрын

@@angryzergling7832 Epson is Dark Mechanicus confirmed.

@kronos661

Ай бұрын

​@@angryzergling7832 In what kind of hellhole are you living?

@Vollification

Ай бұрын

MUTANT!!!! >:(

@Vollification

Ай бұрын

@@angryzergling7832 It's funny because it is XD

This is one of the reasons why 40k is so cool. A society so ancient and with such continuity, that nearly all technology ( scientific and social) has been discovered, tried, failed, forgotten and rediscovered countless times. Now the imperium more or less successfully trundles along atop the ruins.

@insiainutorrt259

Ай бұрын

Kinda like reality.... lota things today that aint new whatsoever....

@travisbishop782

Ай бұрын

I'm not sure if that's cool, or just idiotic.

@harbl99

Ай бұрын

IRL China had a big problem with that. Ming and Manchu scholars had to deal with the sheer massive backlog of everything that had already been tried over the preceding two millennia. One of the classic books of Chinese science was called something like _Gleanings from the Great River_ , because the author was horribly aware that nothing he was writing was OC, he was just providing footnotes to the greats.

@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447

Ай бұрын

@insiai.... like what? the obly time where this happened on a large scale was after the collapse of western rome where they had tp reinvent tons of stuff over the next centuries. also, real life isn't technologically regressive or even stagnant; not even close

@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447

Ай бұрын

this video and most other material makrs it seem like they aren't rediscovering things, and are regressive on the whole. why is it cool? that's not how any long lived society ever has or ever will work

Had to wind back at 28:50 to make sure Arch was still talking about the Imperium and didn't say 'GW is in essence experiencing a competency crisis.' 'Collapse of the ability to maintain complex systems despite historical success due to rising indolence and incompetence', indeed. I'm surprised he restrained himself!

@longrange1977

Ай бұрын

I don't think the timing of this upload is a coincidence, do you? 🤣

The lower levels of the tech-hierarchy are indeed those that invent the most in 40k, the modifications done to the engine of a souped-up chimaera might send a proper tech priest into a feedback loop of apoplectic rage, but they WORK...

@Hellsong89

Ай бұрын

Necessity the mother of all inventions. If you have only one ship to get out of the planet that is being actively being invaded by (pick your poison), then its likely lower level adept might round about few corners when it comes to getting it working and in case of missing spares, might invent ways to do it as hail mary attempt not to die rather horrible death by said poison.

@robertnelson9599

Ай бұрын

The problem is that this modification is like the first guy to build a car. It is a cool idea but if no one else learns about it, it will be forgotten.

@superhobo666

Ай бұрын

​@@robertnelson9599 There is a couple other problems. Almost everything being made is being done by pretty tightly controlled forge worlds or mechanicus worlds, you'll have to get your new designs to one of those worlds, and somehow have enough plot armour to survive interrogations and get your designs approved, provided those worlds even have the ability to make changes to their STC's or make new ones. Also,, a lot of those planets don't even use the same versions of STC's or the same type of STC system, or even have fully working STC's, so your designs might not even be compatible with the designs of other planets, or the whole imperium.

@chuckwood3426

Ай бұрын

@@superhobo666 Naa. A lot of low level tech is being produced on the world its being used on. Local Imperial guard regiments source most of its basic equipment from the areas around where they recruit. Its only the fancy stuff that is being made on a forge world.

@Ewil.Bluetooth

Ай бұрын

Bringing back the Primarchs, really any of the loyalists should have changed course of the stagnated empire. Vulcan will be impossible to stop. Guilleman maybe not does any inventing himself but surely he would see the huge problem and fix it as soon as he can.

An extraordinary sedentary system, where the majority of people in positions of power will be at least marginally incompetent at their Job. Arch you have just described the British government, 'Perfectly'.

@User107D

Ай бұрын

and 99% of the companies which are operating in UK

@NetMoverSitan

Ай бұрын

The US isn't much better, full of those in charge that are unfit to run their OWN lives, yet still believe that they can run the lives of others.

@_Ekaros

Ай бұрын

Or even if they are competent, their main job is well not good of people, but their own gaining of power and continued existence...

@intenzityd3181

Ай бұрын

All institutions operate like that, it's essentially "Bio-leninism". Every organisation recruits and promotes solely based on loyalty and nepotism so end up with useless incompetent people in important positions.

@baivesan

Ай бұрын

I'd argue he described almost all goverments, universities, corporationns etc. on Earth right now.

It also kinda helps like in BattleTech, the inhabitants didn't keep nuking themselves into the Stone Age

@yurioorlov177

Ай бұрын

Well the Capellans did have all those Nukes they couldnt use on the Taurians, And we all know the favorite Target of the Free Worlds League is the Free Worlds League. And Before a Certain Hanse, Steiner and Davion went at each other as often as they would at Kurita. Nukes were a plenty until they nuked the Nuke Factories....

@irishijo1

Ай бұрын

Cant have a new king without some nuking.

@kybercat7

Ай бұрын

@@yurioorlov177 no the tureans nuked their own planets to tell the Capellans in no uncerten terms GET OFF MY LAWN!

@KillerOrca

Ай бұрын

Also Comstar fucking around. Anyone who was trying to recover new stuff tended to get stabbed or shot.

@blackops555

Ай бұрын

@@KillerOrca yeah it doesn't help when the interstellar telecommunications company who has a monopoly on tech doesn't want any of the savages figuring out how a toaster works.

Mind you that there is also the Problem that the Magos's (political) position is dependent not just on his competence, but also - and more importantly - his knowledge. There is a rational reason for any given Magos that knows something the other Magi don't know to keep his knowledge to himself, which accelerates the decline/loss of knowledge, as ambitious Magi might get rid of their bosses without learning everything he had to teach.

@DetectiveLance

Ай бұрын

And just as likely an Ambitious Magos overextended themselves and was subsequently removed from existence while still having secrets not passed on. Of course this information would be lost even if all the Admech uploaded what they knew to cloud storage or a big library database.

@BismarckDidNothingWrong

Ай бұрын

@@DetectiveLance there is also that, that‘s true

@TheKlink

Ай бұрын

@@DetectiveLance i thought they had the noosphere?

@DetectiveLance

Ай бұрын

@@TheKlink They do, and don't tell me they don't lose stuff mislabeling the folder they put something in. Or left a folder with a passcode that no one else knows. Or told anyone where those folders/files were even deposited on the fuxking noosphere!

@alexmin4752

Ай бұрын

@@TheKlink Noosphere is just Interrnet. You have to upload the data there. And if you wan't to keep it secret, you don't upload data to the Internet.

Y'know that kind of explains why the mechanics became so modification heavy, if your piece of tech is a holy relic and you can't put shock absorbers in the jackhammer then just put the shock absorbers in your arms instead

I bathed the Holy SSD's in sacred Holy Water.

@smilingbandit6900

Ай бұрын

painted mine red^^

@ShadowAimai

Ай бұрын

But you *failed* to follow the proper rites, initiate. And please tell me you didn't ALSO forget to perform the following percussion rite?

@AlexVardr

Ай бұрын

As long as it's distilled holy water. That's nun-conductive.

@KhenWolf

Ай бұрын

​@@AlexVardrmineral oil

@10011110011

Ай бұрын

@AlexVardr But i want to conduct nuns

Someone brought this up in a Lutien video that he did on a he Mechanicus. The field of engineering is basically about repeating the same process shown to them by the senior engineer, which is mostly maintenance. When asked how it works, none of the engineers can tell you nor can their supervisors because they have been doing the same thing for so long that they forgot what the process is for. So it’s not entirely ridiculous for it to become a religion like the Mechanicus.

@Hisu0

Ай бұрын

It's a huge problem in the heavy industry, by the way. Say the company bought a factory built in the 70s, that makes some kind of polymers, and wants to increase its output. The funds are there, the engineers are there - but since the system was built in the 70s, none of the engineers who built it are around, most aren't even alive by now, and those who are around, they only know how to maintain it. Worse still, in half a century, lots of blueprints are just plain lost to all sorts of unresolved administrative shakeups (like switching from paper to film, and from film to digital) that, while not impossible to fully correct, are rather costly and without any impact on the operations, so that can gets kicked further and further down the road, until no one really knows where it is.

@NathanCassidy721

Ай бұрын

@@Hisu0 Yep. And when you combine that with the compentcy crisis, administrative bloat on the upper management, and the simplification of a lot of tech, you have a recipe for the Dark Age of Technology. They never intended it but 40k is one of the few properties that really understands human nature and civilization despite being a over the top grim dark setting.

@Alexander_Kale

Ай бұрын

In my experience, it is the other way around. THe old guys usually DO understand how the machine works, because more often than not, they have been there when those things were put into place. The problem arises when those guys end their tenure without the higher ups having realised that the new guys were never cometently briefed on the machines, and usually the old guys themselves make sure that doesnt happen.

@p_serdiuk

Ай бұрын

This is somewhat counter-balanced by the fact that very often, given the current rate of the technological progress, re-inventing such machines from the ground up using modern CAD and manufacturing technologies results in far greater output and smaller maintenance costs. It's just a far bigger upfront investment. One famous example of this is how it's impossible to re-create the Saturn V rocket nowadays, because the technological base and engineering expertise is gone, but modern rockets like the Superheavy can achieve far more than the Saturn V while being reusable. But, this rate of progress is unsustainable so eventually we WILL need to learn how to preserve knowledge properly.

@jrr7031

Ай бұрын

​@Hisu0 case in point, Voyager 2. The code used in its opwrating system barely exists anymore. Its essentially a dead languafe like Latin. Plus, those who wrote and coded and engineered it are dead. So, thats a perfect example of that

I can't help but imagine a sect of tech-priests who look at the technological marvels of the Golden Age of Technology and how Mechanicus only knows pieces of it and quickly conclude that since humanity used to be so much more advanced, chances are they aren't going to invent anything new anyway.

@dwaynewrighton8547

Ай бұрын

Thats literally the point of the mechanicus Everything that possibly could have been invented, already has been, and is currently lost to time, and it's more efficient to rediscover all this tech by searching for stc's, rather then recreating the tech from the ground up, with no research notes

@Serahpin

Ай бұрын

@@dwaynewrighton8547 STC also refers to the computers that housed all of human knowledge and could design anything you wanted to build using only local resources.

4:42 Galileo was imprisoned, not for heliocentrism, which he had the support of several cardinals, but because, his patron, the Pope, suggested Galileo write a book about a theoretical debate comparing Geo- and helio-centrism. Galileo proceeded to make the advocate for geocentrism a caricature of the Pope and an idiot. He was sentenced to house arrest, where he continued to teach and eventually died of alcoholism and gout.

I hope the 4Chin leak is legit and heads, hands and torsos roll.

@Big_Mad_Mekaniak_Moon_Toof

Ай бұрын

What leak I need to know

@hashkangaroo

Ай бұрын

@@Big_Mad_Mekaniak_Moon_Toof The Madeuppian Heresy, begun it has.

@Sujad

Ай бұрын

@@Big_Mad_Mekaniak_Moon_Toof There was a leak released on 4Chins, supposedly from an insider. It's of course something you'd take with a pinch of salt. Arch has a video on his other channel, The Archcast.

@ironheadedDoF

Ай бұрын

@@hashkangaroo Oh i thought that was the Made-Uppian Heresy :) "It is true because I said it's true" "Sounds like speaking Magic Words, and the magic only works if I agree with you? No, you HERETIC! ::blam::"

@al-mungus677

Ай бұрын

They seems pretty damn unlikely most of it to just delete Harlequins and GKs.

I'm so impressed that you applied the Peter to the WarHammer. Love it. Vraks is the perfect manifestation that had it's inevitable outcome.

The really screwed up thing about the situation with the imperium of man's tech in Warhammer 40k is how when you really think about it, how actually plausible it is especially when you compare it to similar situations in settings like Battletech where there are tech worshipping cultists but technological advancement does occur slowly but surely even while regression does in other areas. There's legitimately xenos species that use the warp in their technology in W40k. There's legitimately demons being bound to machines xenos tech that is dangerous for humans simply to be near and more. Even technology based off of actual normal established physics based principles like a very good chunk of Jokaero, Eldar and Tau technology is often straight up impossible to interface with existing technology for the simple reason that the beings that built it never thought of or intended it to be interfaced with existing human technology. Add in that there is no centralized schooling system in the setting, and even the various sub sects of the adeptus mechanicus disagree with each other on how technology is to be used, how or to whjat extent new ideas are tech heresy ect. It's nothing short of miraculous that the imperium of man can maintain a mostly standardized, common and relatively reliable technological base.There's plenty of other similar factions in various settings that can't. Comstar in Battletech for example broke into two warring factions in a dispute about how much effort they should put into restoring previous levels of technology. Most of the inner sphere paid the price.

@NathanCassidy721

Ай бұрын

That's what makes 40k so interesting and riveting despite the Orks and the Power Armor. The setting has a better understanding of human nature that no other IP really has, outside of maybe DUNE. Like take the rise of the God Emperor of Mankind, a god-like figure who tried to make humanity an atheist species trying to replace religion with science and rationalism only to be the one to create the one religion keeping humanity alive with him as the figurehead. In an attempt to eradicate religion, all he did was leave a space open to fill the void. It's almost the perfect allegory for how wokeness took hold.

@DnBGolf

Ай бұрын

I deal with this in my job. Someone installed something decades ago, but it wasn't used in the way the manual prescribes, so now nobody knows how it works or how to make it work when it stops working. Entropy.

one very similar problem that often happens is as the people who built a company/organization leave for whatever reason the people who now run it probably don't understand why things run the way they do so they either stay lockstep with policy even after it's obsolete or they break a working system with their "improvements"

@RichardHardslab

Ай бұрын

I deal with this at work so much it hurts.

The Last Chancers are full of citizens who just wanted to know how their alarm clock works.

I kind of think the problem in 40k is that the tech worth understanding is so advanced and complex that human minds can't comprehend it. STC templates are basically instructions for idiots. The Admech crams their brains full of technology to even have a hope of comprehending some of this stuff. It's all been designed by AIs that dwarf human intellect. So you take an STC template and build the thing it makes...and you still have NO IDEA how it works. All that said, the Admech has to understand some technologies, but why try and build a better rocket based on the understanding of rocketry that you have, when you could use this STC template and make a rocket that goes 50x faster, has 200x the range and explodes for 40x the damage? The gulf is so wide between what you could create through innovation and what you could create by following an STC that it's pointless to even try - the ancient's grasp of technology overshadows everything.

@alexmin4752

Ай бұрын

Yeahm I think it's the best explanation. All points of Arch regarding incompetence and societal structure apply to modern corporations but somehow they manage to innovate. And there's a lot of competition between Magoses in WH40k, so "but we have competition" is not an explanation. More likely it's simply impossible for human mind to innovate within self-imposed restrictions of AdMech (ie don't create AI etc). Also, STC itself is an AI. It's known to be able to adapt design and production process for conditions and resources available. It's not just a blueprint/manual. Also, AdMech often innovate and even go as far as reverse engineering xenotech and purifying and studying ships owned by heretics. They just don't suceed often.

Gatekeep lads, or lose what you love.

@MMFWCLWHOOPWOOP

Ай бұрын

From your lips to the God emporers ears friend

@rusm5710

Ай бұрын

Loose ya bowels

@reefarolla32

Ай бұрын

Its gone mate, just find a new hobby.

@danielcharnock8975

Ай бұрын

It's already dead.

@kilgoretrout413

Ай бұрын

It’s just a game bro 😬

I'm surprised that those Servo Skulls that are bolted on some of the Adeptus Mechanicus members are not used as Databases on how to maintain most systems, much like how we would find a KZread Video on how to repair something.

@jimh5491

Ай бұрын

If the events in the Mechanicus game are considered canon, then you have the case that some Magos like Reditus can convert themselves into Servitors or Servo Skulls after being mortally wounded in order to preserve at least some of their knowledge to help other members of the Mechanicus, potentially serving as a kind of database for them like you say.

Let's not forget about the excelleration of incompetence; failing upwards

The one thing you forgot to mention is that even if a rebelling world wasn’t immediately stamped out by the imperium it will be torn apart by the other horrors of the galaxy that the empire was defended it against. Because it would now be seen as easy pickings.

@user-yb6jv2ms2l

Ай бұрын

Usually, if horrors come, its too late to defend... If not in ultramar kek

In context it is important to remember that Imperium knows how to build the machines that build machines. But not necessarily in all fields how those machines work. Like you can build factory that makes CPUs based on design you have on hand, but you have no idea how those CPUs work or how can you design a new one... Could realistically already happen. The photomasks used could already be so complex that we could not recreate them anymore. Delete all current and old designs, and eh can make more, but can't figure out what is actually there.

@evensgrey

Ай бұрын

Bas example. Humans haven't designed most chips for a generation. A HUMAN generation, not a chip generation. They've been too complex for humans to design in the required timeframes since at least the 1990's. What chip designers mostly do is write formal descriptions of chips in hardware design languages, then do the equivalent of compiling them to generate the actual masks. You can do it yourself, even, the tools that you use to configure an FPGA are almost the same, they just compile to the code to configure the internal logic elements in the FPGA instead of creating masks.

@alexmin4752

Ай бұрын

@@evensgrey Well, good luck caclulating the resitances and inductivities for a scheme with 10 billion elements by hand.

4:40 The Galileo imprisonment myth reaches far and wide I see lol

@slkjvlkfsvnlsdfhgdght5447

Ай бұрын

what do you mean "myth"? he was indeed placed under house arrest for the rest of his life

Funny how most great things or nations are born as Aristocracies, be it because of their military power or because the person that started the success(be it by war or otherwise) has garnered his offspring enough prestige or resources by his victory to give them a leg up to the point where they can take a throne and entrench it more.

So we just need an immortal techpriest, with numerous minds in unison, who has worked with Big E to help push the Imperium foward.

@tomizatko3138

Ай бұрын

That would work only temporally work at best or not work at all.

@yokaiou5848

Ай бұрын

@@tomizatko3138 Cawl seems to be doing fine.

@user-yb6jv2ms2l

Ай бұрын

​@@yokaiou5848this comment is literaly about him😐

Arch I believe you are mistaken about Galileo there. He wasn’t imprisoned for promoting heliocentrism, which the church had already supported and accepted under Copernicus. It was his flagrant and unfounded insults levied against the papacy that got him in trouble.

@tyrannosaurusimperator

Ай бұрын

The biggest concern the Church had with Galileo's theories was his math errors.

@physicalremoval3864

Ай бұрын

But much evil church and muh 'enlightenment'

new week, new arch video, just when I get home from getting this stent removed (and was in a bad mood, this brightens it.)

@travisbishop782

Ай бұрын

I hope you feel better soon.

This is 100% an endorsement of Heinleins societal model depicted in Starship troopers. I approve.

@conradflanagan5003

Ай бұрын

Trouble is, even that system would eventually become sedentary, fixed, corrupt and incompetent. If anything, we seem to merely be witnessing the fundamental laws of entropy.

@iamscoutstfu

Ай бұрын

@@conradflanagan5003 I don't actually agree with that prospect. But then, I don't agree with Arch's reasoning behind the lack of innovation in the Imperium, either.

@p_serdiuk

Ай бұрын

@@conradflanagan5003 It's hard to become sedentary and incompetent if you have wars once in a while tho

I was in some company with the reverse Peter principle. We elevate an incompetent, until he become, acceptable ;)

The Turian Hierarchy/Empire tries to combat The Peter Principle by trying to carefully promote people, not just simply keep people going up the ladder recklessly.

@doomguy9049

Ай бұрын

Who is that?

@darklelouchg8505

Ай бұрын

@@doomguy9049 Turian Hierarchy is from Mass Effect

@doomguy9049

Ай бұрын

@@darklelouchg8505 oh okay thanks, I never got around to playing any of the ME games so had no idea

@diggman88

Ай бұрын

its tied to Turian honor code. To promote someone above their capabilities and have them fail Is a sign of incompetence on the one who promoted them. For an individual to recognize their unsuitably for a position and step down from it is treated with a good deal of respect.

It's worth noting that the Peter Principle is largely responsible for why Governments as a whole tend to eventually crumble. Businesses, even if they provide important goods and services, are not strictly necessary for society to function. If one dies, it's a minor inconvenience in the grand scheme of society. Businesses can easily be replaced by the people whenever one fails. Government? The whole point is that it stays for as long as possible. Government is the bedrock society can grow from, and it is important for that government to recognize its role as nothing more than a stabilizing force. When Government tries to intervene in anything, it's inevitable for that program to become infested with people who have no idea what they're doing. In the context of the Imperium, they have resorted to mass authoritarianism as a response to chaos. It's easy to see why they'd do that since chaos is scary, but the more efficient option is to just roll with the punches. Accept that chaos will take innocent life, and use that as motivation to find a way to ride the tides of chaos safely.

@dabbinghitlersmemes1762

Ай бұрын

"To ride the tides of chaos safely"? What kind of heresy are you babbling about? Really though, the whole imperium cannot be allowed to fail, even on the level of a modern government. There are 200ish other governments, it's not like it's usually too big of a deal. Its biggest asset is decentralisation, that it can try to limit the scope of inevitably incompetence. Although I'm not sure how well that would last, seeing as the "decentralised" US federal government (and similarly, Australia's) has continually reached into more and more stuff that it simply should have no business touching. State or local governments can be allowed to fail, and frequently in the imperium the lower level ones do, so they can be assumed to maintain a little better level of competence.

My son says if you critique something even harshly with something you follow it means you really love it .

Arch, do you consider the Empire to be a (dystopian) representation of the managerial state?

@br9809

Ай бұрын

I'm not Arch but 40k certainly. 30k much less so.

@Reddotzebra

Ай бұрын

Pretty much, yeah. In a way it's authoritarian in exactly the way the current progressives want a state to be. It's just focusing on bigger problems than their feelings.

@pieguy2011

Ай бұрын

I wouldn't. The imperium has far to much respect and love for the idea of humanity.

@zoompt-lm5xw

Ай бұрын

​@@pieguy2011 good point

@pieguy2011

Ай бұрын

@zoompt-lm5xw thank you.

Ironically there is an example of this within the books of our Favorite Hero of the Imperium and the Imperium guard! Cain got stuck behind enemy (ork) lines and did run into a rather more scientific rather than religious driven tech priest who was good at her job. Yet was kept demoted in the lower ranks. Only through her adventure with our dashing hero, success in stopping the orks... And the 'slight' incident involving the discovery of a very important artifact that the Inquisition was very interested in... Did she get her promotions... And not by the Mechanics... But by the inquisition. So that does make more sense than you might think for our cog boys and girls.

4:25 you have a high schoolers understanding of Galileo's situation with the church.

Then Big Papa Ultrasmurf and THAT guy appeared... 5:15 - Trazyn the Infinite put it best in the factions trailer of Battlefleet Gothic: Armada 2. 13:23 - As a certain politician turned emperor in a different universe would put it, all who have power fear losing it. Kakistocracy...sounds like where the US and the UK is heading towards, if not there already. Ah yes, the bigger the smile, the sharper the knife or if it goes right, take all the credit, if it goes badly, find someone to blame.

Dysgenics and the inevitability of the competency crisis. Two of Warhammer 40k's most insidious and inconspicuous horrors.

@intenzityd3181

Ай бұрын

More pertinent to the present day than 40k. They've had plenty of eugenics by that time.

The Peter Principle is further supported by what we call "Wegloben" in Germany: When you want to get rid of someone but save face, you will transfer or most likely promote him or her out of your section with the highest praise, medals and tinsel. Just be rid of that someone - or sometimes to be rid of a rival. Either it is an obstacle that is now "somebody else's problem". Sometimes that comes back to haunt you as of course now that person is doing damage on a higher level - above you.

Seeing Arch do a regular kind of video is like a lighthouse with all the craziness going on

indeed the incompetence has become a new standard of competency

15:00 For further examples: The antonym to Symphony is Kakophony. Incessant chaotic noise with no rhyme or reason that only gives you a headache and drives you mad.

@whisped8145

Ай бұрын

Furthermore, the German word for "shit" is "Kacke" ;) "Scheiße" is of yiddish origin.

I was promoted to director of my division. I gave it up after 6 months and acquired a position as a principle, which is the same status as a director, but is only technical. Did very well. And yes, i know this is rare, because you have to admit that you can't do the job you were given in order to do the job you're good at. I've always called this process "graying out".

Great content as always. But as a history enthusiast, I need to comment about Galileo. Arch is wrong (or rather repeating an old anti-Catholic myth) on two points. - Galileo was not imprisoned and was not treated badly. His sentence was house arrest understood as a ban on leaving the Papal State, so something like having his passport taken away. He did it later anyway and no one punished him. -There were several reasons for the trial (it really was complicated and to this day disputed matter), what probably angered the church the most was that he publicly expressed an opinion that the heliocentric theory should result in a different understanding of the Holy Scripture. So it was not really the priests who poked their nose into science, but the scientist into theology (and the trial was mostly a scientific conference, at least for the standards of its time). The myth of Galileo's trial itself is more extensive, but that's all about Arch's statement.

Great video

@p_serdiuk

Ай бұрын

Based

Mechanicus Tech Priest (find an intact STC that's literally irreplaceable) Same Tech Priest (soaks STC in holy oil causing it to fail) Same Priest again "Perhaps if i pray to it then it will work again"

@PanosKalaigidis

Ай бұрын

And if the Tech Priest prays hard enough, it just might work.... Praise the Omnissiah!

@elysiankentarchy1531

Ай бұрын

Given how this is 40k, there is a non-zero chance he is right.

@Alexander_Kale

Ай бұрын

Or the other way around. The prayers and blessings might very well be amintenance instruction, the rituals of care might contain sensible information. Heck, even the oils may servean actual purpose. The machine is still going to choke on the incense, though...

@ayathados6629

Ай бұрын

And youll call them crazy when they pray long enough and it starts working again

@TrexGrimStud

Ай бұрын

@@ayathados6629 well no cause the rules of the 40k univere such things can happen .

I do love these videos were it's not directly about the lore but it's about the understanding why the universe is how it is.

Came for the 40k lore stayed for the lessons and 40k lore lol. Some serious wisdoms and knowledge here.

For once i would say your point of view is a little dramatic, institution like the Astra Militarum still have pretty good officiers as the weak and incompetent get killed in action because of their own failures in a form of natural selection of the fittest, same thing for the Inquisition and diverse officios, the Schola Progenium seems to do a pretty good job at raising the Imperium intelligence departments and special forces. I do agree with your point for the Mechanicus and Adeptus Administratum though however, i would like to raise the point that in many case, in the Administratum people enter at the bottom and get to higher and higher position up until they become incompetent but the base level should remain roughly the same and if the degradation through the ranks is consistent they their should be a stagnation of skill level and not much of a degradation. Moreover nothing forbid someone naturally gifted to get in the Administratum and rise through the ranks either

Hmm, i never thought about it but . . Apply the Peter Principle to MLP:FIM. What does that say about Celestia, Luna and Discord? Probably also Cadence and Twilight?

Points to Cawl casually creating new Space Marines, Anti Grav tech, and upgrading every weapon and armor that a space marine uses. Add in that hes basically the fabriactor general now, i doubt there will be regression from current time line onwards

Not one mention of the warp squirrel! I don't know why; but I am very impressed. lol

LOVE YOUR VIDS MAN

Nice video !

One mistake Arch. Galliei was not persecuted simply for heliocentrism, he was persecuted because he was a filthy hermetic heretic, a would be alchemist.

@PhoenixLord777

Ай бұрын

oh that's interesting, never knew that.

@Acesahn

Ай бұрын

It amazes me how many lessons in history are twisted by propaganda.

@Erebusdidnothingwrongish

Ай бұрын

Nah he was totally not sus x

@ironheadedDoF

Ай бұрын

Galileo said "no" to the local/region power structure. Easy concepts, right? Details just enhance the nuances.

@thisisanalt

Ай бұрын

Neither of those were why he was persecuted, renaisence europe and italy in particular was awash in hermeticists and alchemists, especially in the Church. Lull is a famous alchemist, as is St. Albert Magnus. Galileo's controversy was because he insisted a portion of the bible be changed to fit the new science he discovered because of apparent contradictions, even when he didn't yet address the holes in his theory (which would be solved but only centuries later when the tech was available, the stellar parrallex being the big one)

Friday night with Arch!

The Emperor sees all. We hold, brothers

The problem with the Peter Principle is that it assumes good intentions, and completely ignores a factor that is always present in highly hierarchical bureaucratic institutions: malice. It's in such institutions that people with the mentality of a career politician thrive, and these people do not have good intentions in mind. Whether it's for political reasons, or purely for personal gain, they will do anything to get into position of power, and abuse that power. And to get it, they will constantly sabotage anyone that opposes them, actively try to get in their superior's good graces, and promote people that are less competent than themselves but are absolutely loyal. Once these people get what they wanted, the institutions they are in charge of start to collapse, causing suffering to everyone involved. Just like we've seen it happen with our once beloved game and movie companies.

20:58 The imperium doesn't need the Emperor back. It needs Malcador, to overhaul all the beaurocracy.

I was always under the impression that local technological improvement isn't rare, but its almost always just a minor improvement over the Imperial baseline and rarely travels outside of that world.

Genius video - it gives such a bright retrospect of our world and answers many questions such as "is AI going to replace jobs". I have long-term observations of the companies I worked for and I can agree on 100% that the most incompetent people are always promoted and on the top and am not saying that from hate because I really don't care about companies which I do not own myself! If you look closely in our modern worlds since year 2000 onwards we don't have much innovation just some improvments in technology but in social retrospect the people are getting poorer and with less avarage IQ - just no intelligent people to operate complex AI systems in the near future!

Has anyone noticed that this guy kind of sounds like Narc, the guy that covers Ashes of Creation development/news

If you look at all human history stagnation is the norm. The first farming was done 100,000 years ago. There were many years of no advancement and numerous cases of knowledge being lost.

There is one other reason why technology may degrade - stupid regulations pushed by fashionable superstitions. That's what we have nowadays, in 3K, with all that battery loaded cars that are less officient than Ford Model T ever was.

It’s what I never understood about the system of business we have. Just because you know how a machine you’re operating works and can repair it does not mean you know the business expenses of running those machines across a franchise works and how to manage it all. But that’s what promotions turn into. You know how to work with your hands so we’ll stick you behind a desk and force you to use everything but your hands.

Another way i have heard it put: "rise to the level of their incompetence" keep getting shoved up out of someone's hair til they are too inept to shove up further

Damn… Bloody KZread has been on a long run of not giving me any notifications for new vids from your channel for a long time now🤔 So now I have a long backlog to watch 😅

So in order to save the imperium from its death spiral Guilliman and Cawl had to become a thing that exists? And even they have long odds of saving this slowly cooking goose? Grimdark indeed.

23:54 The Imperium needs an entire branch of the Inquisition devoted solely to rooting this out and purging it. Purging all corruption, all entrenched incompitance, etc. Not sure what to call it though. The Ordo Politicus?

Slight correction on the Galileo thing, since the story is very apt for the mechanicus. The church had no issues with his ideas for the most part. They were disgruntled at his lack of mathematical proof to back up his findings, but they no only let him go around trying to convince people of his idea, he was even allowed to debate many high-ranking priests on the topic until he eventually worked his way up to debating a man called Maffeo Barberini. More commonly known at the time as pope Urban VIII. Galileo was given audience with the motherfucking POPE and during their debate had the mother of all reddit moments by telling the pope that he's reading the bible wrong. Galileo Galilei, in his infinite tact, told the head of the catholic faith that he doesn't know the bible. In his own house. In the vatican. That's the part many people omit from the story - Galileo was imprisoned for heresy (and then had the sentence downgraded to life in gay baby jail, namely house arrest), not for his ideas, but because he insulted the pope to his face.

love the vod and all the reasoning behind it but i have my uno revers card right here its called Belisarius Cawl

Technology decays in the dark. And in the 40K universe, it is so very dark. Some people even call it GRIM dark... ^-^

My Armour is Contempt My Shield is Disgust My Sword is Hatred In the Emperor's Name, let none survive!

I got more formal training as a cashier at Walmart then I did as a department manager at the same store

I could have sworn Arch already did a video on this topic.

Ah, some of my favourite semi-obscure social topics wrapped into a 40k lore explanation. If I might only add to the topic of "aristocracy", ever wondered where the word "noble" comes from? "The one with knowledge"

@praetorurbanus2917

Ай бұрын

The etymology of "noble" is actually from the latin "nobiles," which meant those who were well-known or notable. In other words, those who put their time and effort into doing great deeds that they might receive political office.

@daywither927

Ай бұрын

@@praetorurbanus2917 Latin "nobilis", which then goes to "gnobilis", which then goes to greek "gnotos" which is derived from "gnosis". Which then probably goes to some caveman speech. But you're right, I screwed it up, it's a different form. Thanks.

Funnily enough, I came to this video after watching Arbiter Ian, where he directly warned his viewers away from ever watching Arch. Lol.

@NathanCassidy721

Ай бұрын

Sounds like one the morons who tried to backstab Arch because he's been calling out GW and the influencers for a LONG time. He's actually on a list of names that you can't mention when you sign a contract to work at Games Workshop.

@No_nameOG

Ай бұрын

A follow up: Ian was so triggered by my comment about his statement on Arch that he used it to post a list of Arch’s “offenses” written by a Marxist on Reddit. Lol x2.

@reliantncc1864

Ай бұрын

Can't reason with Marxists. If they could reason, they wouldn't be Marxists.

@p_serdiuk

Ай бұрын

Lol. He's too small to stay subbed to, then.

Arch low key giving a lecture on our own future to a bunch of people sitting watching a KZread video about a fictional universe.

Looks at nowadays, with tick tock, tide pod eating challenges: oh, I totally can see how it can happen

2:32 yes But it takes a very very long time

Arch, I can't begin to express how much I would LOVE to see a video from you just talking about the gradual degradation and collapse of the Roman Empire in the West.😁

Arch. If is it possible. Can you make video of how bodyarmor is made? Both for normal soldiers and space marines??

Q looks a lot like the icon of chaos with a few / removed.

Makes one wonder how did the Imperium get to those heights and what changed to make them unreachable.

I argue that since both parties are totalitarian states and their only trading partners are each other. There is no way of finding the right balance of trade. Both sides may take turns one upping each other or underestimating their own needs. There needs to be competing firms not just two organisms feeding off each other until they run out of resources so collapse is inevitable it's a matter of when not if unless new resources are constantly discovered to replenish its stocks. But that requires an eternal contract and no chance of changing demands.

I have it! Think about it Stc's are known to also assemble things, what if the programming of it is so archaic that it's hard to interact with it. Sure you may take apart a clock and understand it, but to get a Stc to produce it, requires a archaic logic that is hard to interface with.

Just listening to the introduction, I'm wondering if the mechanicus has been infiltrated by Nurgle, grandfather of stagnation.

You'd think the Mechanicus would understand entropy.

In a more shorter version. Because the plot demands it. Still an interesting idea non the less.

I had to check this was still a w40k video.. it relates so well to current affairs

Is the Sabbat world crusade in Production or was it dropped

Didnt you already do this vid?

Ey Arch. There was a "mandatory Arch Warning" on Arbitratorians last Video. You should thank him for the free publicity :)

@ElectromagNick

Ай бұрын

I think it's hilarious how Arch is _the_ devil to most of these people.

"So long as the mutants known as the 'Adeptus Mechanicus' make things as described in blueprints and STCs, I can tolerate their existence. But if they mess up *once,* I'll crack open whatever Forge World the defective product or products came from, and leave the survivors to die." - Warmaster Alexander "Ironside" Hammond, from an alternate 40k timeline

In battletech I get that the E level technology was mostly in the Terran part of the Star League. For control purposes. While the great houses were level D plus. Then add in commguard killing those outside them who know the E level tech a fall to D level tech makes sense. Now in 40K chaos has reason to prevent humans from developing Neacon warp suppresing tech. So reason for all chaos gods to cause technological degrade so humans never get to susspression tech .

inbefore the degradation eventually means 40k is a prequel to warhammer in 100k years. XD

Kinda fucked up we live in a era in which remembrancers have to compete with the man of iron

Do a guardsmen rising through the ranks …. Please and thank you 🙏

Putting the Peter into the Peter's Principle, one Peter at a time.