I agree with Jordan Peterson. They didn’t understand the context. It’s not about the money is about your mental health in a job you hate

@chulo6561

2 жыл бұрын

I think he might have had a lot more said there but he may have been cut off or the clip was shorter than what was really there. Or he is just giving a small idea when there is a lot more to it.

@mosesking2923

2 жыл бұрын

It’s a cute soundbite but nonetheless false. The real world doesn’t guarantee happiness nor is life about you. Especially if you have a family to provide for, your primary obligation is to get over yourself and provide for your family and yourself. Happiness is a choice you make every morning, not a job that you can obtain. Happiness is not important. Responsibility and duty are.

@ilai7893

2 жыл бұрын

@@mosesking2923 that's part of the American dream

@aolvaar8792

2 жыл бұрын

I worked 16 hours/day for 45 days, no days off, sleep, eat, shower, dress at work for a lousy $960/day 45 days off, repeat Full RV hook ups at work, no cost

@turtleville288

2 жыл бұрын

Right. They don’t understand what he’s saying.

As Peterson said himself “watch more”…..he certainly does not advocate dropping a job with no plan.

@traceyreed9167

2 жыл бұрын

👍

@davidnofsinger3427

2 жыл бұрын

Too true! I really hate all of the editing on Jordan Peterson's clip.

@bt8469

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly, that. I had forgotten about that response he gave in a previous interview. If I had, I could have saved myself a paragraph of writing in a separate comment about how far off they missed JP's point.

@AnthonyAlvarado78

2 жыл бұрын

Tik tok does a good job of complicating things.

@tommyjohn312

2 жыл бұрын

Typical, cutting Jordan’s lengthy conversations short and just pulling certain parts out. Would love to see him on this show however.

Keep in mind, Peterson is a clinical pyschologist. He is not talking about the fiscal or career side per se. He is talking about the mental anxiety that some people have from taking risks. This is the mental and Peterson is arguing the fact that mental anxiety come with risk It is better for that person to take the risk ti do something different than risk to stay where you are which you already miserable

"We must all suffer from one of two pains: the pain of discipline or the pain of regret. The difference is discipline weighs ounces and regret weighs tons." - Jim Rohn

@drumyogi9281

2 жыл бұрын

Jim Rohn is one of my favorite speakers and authors. Simply one of the bests!

@misstrice84

Жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing that quote.

@bigpumpfitness3734

Жыл бұрын

Jim Rohn

@ds5651

Жыл бұрын

I am a disciple of Jim Rohn.

@scholaroftheworldalternatehist

Жыл бұрын

No matter what you do in life you will have regrets. The consequences of dying involuntarily

Bet Ken is looking for another job where he can finish his thought when asked a question

@richthepup

2 жыл бұрын

🤣

@damarcusbeendidit

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@jrwntctv8091

2 жыл бұрын

It exists. It's called "The Ken Coleman show"

@joshrowe2275

2 жыл бұрын

I read this comment and sipped my coffee and Dave cut him off, I then proceeded to choke on my coffee😂

@Matt-gf4gd

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

Peterson is right, there's a ton of risk in getting a new job. There are new coworkers, bosses, pay structure, office politics, and things can always be worse. But Peterson goes on to say in that clip that you are stronger than you are and face making a decision with high risk.

@James_36

2 жыл бұрын

i thought i hated my job until i realised i probably will hate every other job way more and completely lost sight of my perks and benefits. Your list there just made me realise the risk of leaving my current Company is just far too great for me. I also have plenty of work to do on increasing my wealth by not spending and wasting as much. Peterson was so right

@TheEllaTB

2 жыл бұрын

Context helps, right 🙂

@arturotorres6437

2 жыл бұрын

@@James_36 I can relate to this too. The only thing I dislike about my job is the take home pay but as for the perks+benefits, it's pretty good. Still can't get too comfortable and feel I have to keep on growing & earning more...

@mmp495

Жыл бұрын

The grass isn't always greener but it may be worth looking. 😊

@melanieannette3781

Жыл бұрын

The fact they acted like they can’t see the risk shows they missed the point. Even if you mitigate financial risk by getting hired at a new company prior to quitting, first of all that’s not even always possible. In addition, that doesn’t eliminate all the risks involved. What if you have to move? What if you don’t know what you’re walking into? What if the discontentment goes deeper and isn’t even about your job at all after all? Peterson is a psychologist so I’m sure he was speaking of more than mere financial risk.

We need a Ramsey/Peterson podcast yesterday! Seriously why hasn’t this happened yet? Would love to hear both talk about finance, ethics, God and the impact that independent individuals with integrity have on their families, communities and state

@sconnell1791

2 жыл бұрын

@Prey R Huh? What's wrong with Mikhaila?

@melissadarche6548

2 жыл бұрын

@Prey R how so?

@apophispnw5717

2 жыл бұрын

Nobody really needs to hear anything more from Dave. He doesn’t really have anything more to offer it’s all out there. It’s the same 10 things repeated over and over.

@murderofcrows7738

2 жыл бұрын

Peterson is a toxic misogynist beta. I’m shocked Dave agrees with him on most things tbh.

@priscillalongworth1720

2 жыл бұрын

@Prey R What? Mikhaila is awesome!

Great dialogue, but I would love to have heard Ken’s response without interruption

@girlygirl1890

2 жыл бұрын

Aaaaabsolutely! I was thinking (and no offense to Dave) "Dave will you shutttt up?????" Ken handled Dave with so much respect though. Did better than I would have (lol).

@jeshuasosa7461

2 жыл бұрын

Dave's seem he doesn't have ken's voice loud enough in his headphones. Talking over each other is annoying

@mynameis......23

2 жыл бұрын

No

@frankfigueroa8591

2 жыл бұрын

Dave needs to let Ken speak without interrupting him. That is why I do not watch his live shows anymore. He does that with all of his co-host.

@Future_looksbright

2 жыл бұрын

The sound of Kens voice makes me want to beat my head on a wall. Good insight, but you almost can’t even enjoy it good lord everything he said was pure promo for sales 🙄

I thought I hated my career until I found a great company with excellent people, and now I know that career was always perfect for me. It was never the career. It was always the company. It was the culture of the company and the people I was surrounded by. Now that I'm out of the toxicity, I can love my career.

@TheEllaTB

2 жыл бұрын

Great observation 👍

@KhmerH20

Жыл бұрын

how did you find a great company? what were the signs you were looking for?

@Tousanx

Жыл бұрын

Similar experience. Personnel where I work move around a lot. Some departments can have be totally toxic and the next year same company different crew and it’s wonderful.

@Coffeendonuts

Жыл бұрын

Toxicity lol gen z favorite cry baby war cry

@jesshatchette

Жыл бұрын

@@Coffeendonuts I’m Gen X.

Dave's gotta stop interrupting Ken, it''s becoming a meme at this point 😂

@truegrizzlesfan2292

2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I said something like that as well. It's really tiresome.

@LittleMopeHead

2 жыл бұрын

I agree. But it's also interesting seeing the reaction on his face sometimes.

@rachelgee7894

2 жыл бұрын

It's just rude. He doesn't even go back and let him finish his point after the interruption.

@tcgtpl

2 жыл бұрын

Mr Ramsey only allows the women cohosts to speak without interruption.

@blackworldtraveler3711

2 жыл бұрын

Dave is the boss and TV star.

We need a Jordan Peterson and Dave Ramsey podcast episode!!!

@Water4Mart

2 жыл бұрын

Grant Cardone and Dave Ramsey would be much more interesting.

@19CS91

2 жыл бұрын

@@Water4Mart grant cardone is the opposite of Dave Ramsey full stop

@jarrodvsinclair

2 жыл бұрын

@@Water4Mart would never happen but yeah that would be funny. What would be funnier is that guy on Tiktake that does real estate flipping and is always calling out Dave but I would not want him to get a larger stage.

@Water4Mart

2 жыл бұрын

@@jarrodvsinclair never say never, it could happen

@blackworldtraveler3711

2 жыл бұрын

My parents were enough.

It would be nice to let Ken speak without interruption! He did deal with it well.

@walkercig

2 жыл бұрын

OMG THIS

@bhallais1

2 жыл бұрын

Yup. Made the video unwatchable! Dave, let the man speak!

@tcgtpl

2 жыл бұрын

@@bhallais1 Mr Ramsey only allows the women on his show speak without interruption.

@JamesSmith-cm7sg

2 жыл бұрын

I know so frustrating. Ken is super knowledgeable about this subject but keeps getting cut off. Does Dave do this at the doctor's office too? Pathetic

@aida087

2 жыл бұрын

This is why I go directly to "Ken's" channel to listen to him because I get to listen to him without anyone interrupting him!! It irks me when people interrupt others!

Jordan Peterson and Dave Ramsey have been two father figures for me and have helped me improve my life Tremendously!! Two Giants can inspire many of the small 💕

@jimmyewald

2 жыл бұрын

Same, but I'm also a Theo Von fan, so bonus points for me!

@DiLacquaFace

2 жыл бұрын

Great comment!

@veronicaguerrero5827

2 жыл бұрын

@@jimmyewald been a Theo Von fan, I especially love his joke about Eddie Bravo.

@veronicaguerrero5827

2 жыл бұрын

@@DiLacquaFace thanks 😊

@Maria-oh1nq

Жыл бұрын

Thats sad you dont have a father?

My two favourite grumpy old guys who actually tell the truth. This should be a teaser for when Dave and Jordan have a real, two-hour discussion together.

@jakebormann810

2 жыл бұрын

This should happen!

@chrisyoung5575

2 жыл бұрын

I’d pay to see/hear that convo

@JS-sv4ol

2 жыл бұрын

YES PLEASE

@ThatBinghamHikes

2 жыл бұрын

Please God let this happen. I want Dave to rant on Jordan SO bad.

@CurSwag

2 жыл бұрын

Jordan Peterson is not grumpy 😂

Ken: Starts to talk... Dave: Let me finish your thought for you cause I am smart.

@girlygirl1890

2 жыл бұрын

Travis Ledo...and Ken's response should be "yes, I know you are smart...and I'm right up there with you buddy." : )

Dr. Peterson is spot on. They are doing EXACTLY what media outlets do and have taken him out of context.

@kwasg3

11 ай бұрын

yup

@shyshka_

8 ай бұрын

holy shit, relax kiddo, zip up the pants when you're done too

Jordan Peterson is spot on. And he played devil's advocate on both options in a more simple way that Dave and the other guy does.

I owned and ran a small electronics company with my wife for 24 years. After years of customers slow and no pay, ever growing supplier incompetence, and shrinking profits we all but closed down. I took the pandemic shutdowns and obtained my OSHA 30 certification also obtained my CDL-A. Now I drive heavy haul (my dream) in northern Michigan! I get paid every week, I have health insurance for the first time in my adult life, I have a 401K started, and other benefits (to many to list)! I spend most days with scenery out my windshield like a painting! I still have bad days but more days than not it feels like my feet don’t touch the ground! Keep digging there is a good fit for everyone somewhere!!

Dave is like “I wanna hear your response” and then talks over the other guy the whole time.

Worth watching that entire interview. Peterson always lays it down straight.

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2 жыл бұрын

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There seems to be more agreement here than they think. But they should ABSOLUTELY have Peterson on if possible.

@Juhiss93

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely since it is just a short clip from longer discussion. Whole point that JP was making is that there is allways risk, no matter what, but staying in the job you hate have much much greatter risk than seeking something else.

@joseph906

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. And he wasn't saying "quit your job" irresponsibly. He's a psychologist. He's thinking of the risk of a person becoming bitter and resentful as they stay in the job they hate. And much morr than that.

Let him talk, Dave! He is smart that’s why you hired him. 😆

@front331

2 жыл бұрын

I agree that Ken is smart but sometimes he runs on a matter or offers senseless advice like I'm so and so and I'm doing this type of work because of x, y, z. Or when he questions the callers about the 'why'. Sometimes your hands are tied and you are working a certain type of work because you have to provide, it's not always about passion or career advancement.

@CaptainSleep

2 жыл бұрын

He interrupts a lot. You can tell that Ken gets annoyed.

@tjmcavoy-jensen871

2 жыл бұрын

@@CaptainSleep at first I kinda blew it off that Dave interrupts Ken... as the more I listen though its quite blatant now that he cuts him off all the time... its quite distracting tbh

@Btone1018

2 жыл бұрын

@Prey R what examples of John are you talking about? I’ve listened to him and there are a few times where I’ve questioned his advice but never thought it was disgusting.

@Btone1018

2 жыл бұрын

@Prey R no he does a good job of stating “I’m not telling you to get a divorce”. He constantly says he does not advocate for people to get a divorce if the issue can be resolved. And often if he does tell them they deserve better, it’s because the situation definitely calls for a divorce.

Ken gives the strongest feeling I've ever had of "making it up as you're going along".

@scratch57

3 ай бұрын

He has less personality than his rear-facing comb over.

🤦‍♂️ If you listen to his “UNEDITED LECTURE” on this topic which he has given NUMEROUS TIMES, he repeatedly says “Do not quit your current job without having something else lined up.” He even goes as far as to say to have an alternative job offer EVEN if you are just going to negotiate a higher salary! For Goodness’ sake, do your research people!

@newagain9964

Жыл бұрын

What does “lined up” mean? As in a job offer is forthcoming? Or you have multiple interviews scheduled with hope one will lead to an offer?

Dave for the pocketbook, Peterson for the spirit.

@BandasPalette

2 жыл бұрын

Amen, and if Dave and Ken both actually listened to JP, they would understand that JP actually says the same thing they say, just gives deep references to the origins of their meanings.

@dashjustice1148

Жыл бұрын

@@BandasPalette And Dr. Peterson says it in far fewer words

I’ve never seen Dave cut anyone off as many times as he just did in this video lol

@vikaschmidt1839

2 жыл бұрын

cause ken got in. attitude mode with him when he said I dont think you see the context and perspective Peterson is coming from so Ken Got egotistical and seen the way his voice, tone changed and Dave had mean mug face on him after he had his flare of disconnect but I agree with Dave and Peterson its better for your mental health to get a job you Can peace of mind about in morals and honor and all virtuous principles that gives you peace of mind .

These guys take things so literal. I work very long hours, it’s not easy. That said, my job allows me to impact lives in a big way. It doesn’t feel like work in the traditional sense. It feels like helping people & getting paid

"So the debt is the snake, and we have a primal instinct to run from it. It embodies what is truly satanic in all of us. And what you're saying is to shoulder the responsibility, to embody the Christ figure and crush the head of that snake. And the credits cards? Well that's easy. That's the apple that promises all the things we haven't earned." - not Jordan Peterson.

@ericbrown7628

2 жыл бұрын

Love this haha!!

@VincesInHocSigno

2 жыл бұрын

Haha It is the woman who shall crush the head of the snake 👌 Gen. 3:15

@Musicalogist

2 жыл бұрын

Very good

@Water4Mart

2 жыл бұрын

@@VincesInHocSigno women crush the head of someone's snake everyday 🤣

@lauromartinez8948

2 жыл бұрын

Awesome

I’ve had a lot of different jobs before I settled into my career. Most of the time, when a job was miserable it was the people I worked with who made it miserable. I worked a warehouse in college. The job itself was fine. I actually liked driving a forklift around and didn’t mind being cold lol. I just hated the whining, complaining losers that I worked with. They acted like the sky was falling every time we had a problem or lots of work to do. Similar experiences elsewhere I worked. I kinda miss the summer nights with the bay doors open and country music on the little radio haha.

@ShyLeonheart

2 жыл бұрын

Same problem I've been having. It's never the job itself, but the people that always ruin it for me.

JP is a true leader. He'd make a great PM. Canada is lucky to have him. Get him on the show!

@M.....................

2 жыл бұрын

... maybe check his recent thoughts about racialized people in academia. I love democracy smh

@STOPPEDINCOLORADO

Жыл бұрын

@@M..................... What does "racialized people" even mean, my guy.

@caseywhite3150

Жыл бұрын

The cabal would never allow it

@suekennedy1595

Жыл бұрын

So wrong

Peterson is speaking to the psychology and analysis of taking the leap to get out of a dead end job. These two are talking about the rational logic movement to the next step. It’s a bit like two different discussions.

@brianparrett114

2 жыл бұрын

Every life is a dead end so why does it matter if our jobs are too?

@Force5_Eye_Dev

2 жыл бұрын

I personally don’t think there is such thing as a dead end job (so much as that job earns money or skills). I’m typing this in passing on my way out the door so apologies if there isn’t a follow up reply. Have a good one.

@melanieb2132

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianparrett114 that's hyperindividualism to a fault and terrible nihilism. My life is not a dead end, because the circle of life continues through my children and others to whom I showed love, wisdom, and skills. Change your life philosophy, man.. it sucks.

@bt8469

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianparrett114 Just because you CAN think up a frame of reference through which you can come to conclusion that life doesn't matter, that doesn't mean that you are using a proper frame of reference. If we use the ability to think up a frame of reference that dwarfs the importance of anything, then we can effectively minimize the importance of everything, and that is a mode of existence that terminates in chaos. Just because life seems to be a dead end, doesn't mean that your life doesn't matter. Who are you and I to say that life is a dead end anyway? Just because you can't conceive the idea of continued existence beyond the here and now, doesn't mean that it doesn't exist, and I would caution us to be careful about assuming it doesn't.

@d.minaru7707

2 жыл бұрын

@@melanieb2132 Maybe some people don't have what you have, ever thought about that? Change your mind and open it up.

I’m so glad we followed your advice back in 1999. We now have a paid for rental and a paid for home , daughter in private school, fully funded emergency account with a years worth of wages, paid for cars always, zero debt always. And retirement is always fully funded. Thank you so much.

@keziahthomas2526

Жыл бұрын

How long have you been in BS7?

Jordan Peterson should come on the Ramsay show

Dave needs to be quiet sometimes and let the cohost fully explain their thoughts

I really needed to hear this today. I need to change my mindset of what I really should be afraid of... Staying in a job I don't love. Time to continue the grind.

Lol dave doesn't let anyone finish a thought.

@mysticsmoothie530

2 жыл бұрын

Ong

Out of all the Ramsey personalities Dave and Ken just don't seem to mix at all. 😂

@David-wo9un

2 жыл бұрын

George kisses up to him so they get along fine; I guess George knows who butters his bread.😂😂

@ElainesDomain

2 жыл бұрын

@Prey R Nope

He can't complete a full thought without Dave interrupting him.

@Mosesusorer

2 жыл бұрын

True haha! Dave is high on caffeine today 😂😂

@ci9130

2 жыл бұрын

Irritating hearing Dave rudely, rudely interrupting! 🙄

@cutenobi

Жыл бұрын

OMG. Dave was on another level with interrupting on this segment.

I would love to see JP as a guest. Definitely make it happen!

You missed the point Peterson is saying the risk is rejection on looking for new career. Not saying it’s not a risk worth taking… it’s absolutely worth taking is what he’s saying… he’s just talking to the point that fear of risk of rejection is normal and to use that knowledge to leap over it and go for that new opportunity.

This is the problem when you only watch a clip and don't have the full context of the conversation. Would love to see this collab!

Remember, you were looking for a job when you found the job you currently have. So as long as you quietly job search while keeping the current job, you are only risking rejection and risking that the new job won't live up to what you expected. It's not fatal. That said, if you're 60+ you should strongly consider staying put until retirement.

@littleripper312

2 жыл бұрын

Also getting rejected from jobs while currently employed isn't anywhere near as bad as being rejected when you're unemployed. Looking for jobs when it's not an emergency really isn't that bad and has the potential to drastically improve your life. Even if someone isn't miserable in their job it's not bad to keep an eye out and look for better opportunities.

I love the advice my dad use to give: If you hate your job, every day will feel like work. If you’re passionate about what you do, only some days will. I’ve always loved my career, but that advice has helped me so much during the days that do feel like work.

@JustATotalNerd

2 жыл бұрын

I can't. If I'm passionate about something, doing it for work will only kill my passion for it. My job brings me satisfaction since I get to help people and that does bring me joy, but I would never in a million years do my job for free. I just found the work that feels like work, but doesn't bring me any bitterness

@ghfan2011

2 жыл бұрын

@@JustATotalNerd I see where you’re coming from, but being passionate about something doesn’t have to mean you’d do it for free. It just means you enjoy doing it and/or you believe in the mission behind what you do. As an example, I’m a software engineer for a defense contractor. I enjoy designing and writing software, and I believe in our mission to help our military more effectively defend the country. However, I’d never in a million years do my work for free. It can be mentally draining. I’d rather spend that unpaid time with my family.

@firefly9838

Жыл бұрын

@@JustATotalNerd agreed

This is a good example of why you listen to multiple people with different perspectives and different expertises and then learn good judgement to make a decision. Ramsey is an expert at a type of financial management with a focus on very low-risk strategies. Peterson is an expert on psychology with a focus on creating personal fulfillment and peace through responsibility and self cultivation. They are even discussing exactly the same thing. Listen to both, and many more, and learn to use good judgement to make a decision based on all that input.

I love Jordan Peterson. He is an inspiration of truth and honesty.

I enjoy what Dave and Jordan said as two separate ideas. I equate what Jordan was saying about the gap between the known and the unknown. You can be miserable in your current position but at least you know what to expect. Or you can take a gamble and hope that where you move to is better.

This actual video combined with God and prayer actually pushed me into a company that needed a financial coach when they required a degree from me I didn't have one but I had evidence that I taught people, loved them and showed them a new path. I got the career!!! I'm now a financial coach and I'm so happy and excited I love my life and every day!!! God is great! Proud Salvadorian Latina thank you Dave and Jordan P

Peterson is a gift from God

@stevensmith4706

2 жыл бұрын

He's getting there. Ever hear of C.S. Lewis?

@ricoender8020

2 жыл бұрын

@Prey R I concur with Steven Smith. Peterson is reaching a tipping point. With his daughter now believing and his wife having been an influence his entire life it's close.

@christinebutler7630

2 жыл бұрын

It's just too bad he's such a misogynist.

@JordanJimmyDavison

2 жыл бұрын

@@christinebutler7630 he is not. Not sure if your being intentionally misleading or your just misinformed.

@christinebutler7630

2 жыл бұрын

@Jordan Dynamite I've read plenty of his stuff, including things he's published in the psych world, not just the media. If I had had to have a guy like him as a professor I'd have had a hard time finishing, because he doesn't think women deserve higher education. He'd have us all back in the kitchen.

I think one can also learn to love their job. I work in a warehouse, and my job involves a lot of heavy lifting. Living in Sweden, I also do a lot of work in cold weather. I didn't like it at first, but over time, I started enjoying the fact that I get to move around a lot, I'm almost never bored because there's always stuff to do, I can eat what I want because I burn so many calories (got in shape after being overweight most of my life), and there's a ton of variety on top of that. It's pretty awesome.

Jordans Petersons point was simply that even if it’s really hard to find the next job, it’s still worth it ….

I want more of this! Can Dave react to Jordan Peterson more??? 😂 I may have enjoyed this way too much!

Judging by the comments we all love Dave and Jordan. Let's make an episode happen please 🙏 both these men have changed my life.

Dave/Ken is my least favorite host combination. Dave constantly interrupts Ken. It’s uncomfortable to watch and listen to

That wasn't Paterson's opinion. He was trying to use people's excuses against them. He was just trying to prove that even though one thing is hard, the alternative is still much worse.

Jp and Dave have helped out with so many life lessons.

@nedbymicklemarket7370

2 жыл бұрын

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As much as I like both Ramsey and Peterson, I hope this show doesn’t turn into a regular “Dave reacts to” kind of channel.

@domainationteam

2 жыл бұрын

i know!!!

@jrwntctv8091

2 жыл бұрын

We're talking about five minutes of a daily two hour show. Only about 15% of the content (the highlights) makes it to this channel

I would LOVE to hear a conversation between Dave and Jordan 😂😂 omg that would be to die for. Great minds both of them.

@Kaktus965

2 жыл бұрын

Listen to Peterson on the Sunday Special with Ben Shapiro. Also very good 👍

@PassRush49

2 жыл бұрын

Ramsey is no match for Jordan's wit.

All these abilities in terms of getting and keeping jobs and climbing the ladder/developing a career are skills that need to be taught beginning in middle school at the latest. A lot of kids are expected to just know this stuff and to know how to study and learn, and it's not necessarily innate.

@greyhigg7300

2 жыл бұрын

I greatly disagree. The ones who belong at the top will figure out how to get there. The ones who don’t won’t. Getting to the top is not something that everyone should be able to achieve, it would then no longer be the top. Those who put the time in on their own and develop skills to increase their value are the ones who we should want at the top.

@botticelli728

2 жыл бұрын

@@greyhigg7300 That's nuts! That's like saying to Dave Ramsey, "Don't bother to teach financial skills to people; if they can't figure it out on their own, then they deserve to be poor." People can choose to take career-building advice or not, but if they're not exposed to these concepts at all, they're at a disadvantage.

@MichaelReginald

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you.

@greyhigg7300

2 жыл бұрын

@@botticelli728 It is not nuts and your analogy doesn't accurately represent the scenario at all.

I'm glad they finally addressed the issue of having a job you love that doesn't feel like a job because you love it so much. I love what I do, and still get tired at the end of the day, there are still stressful days, etc.

Loved the discussion. Thank you!

the other guy got defensive real quick, whitou even having to, guess he thought JP was telling people to not change jobs.

Oh my god worlds colliding. Next thing I know we're gonna get Dave on JRE, or vice versa🤣

@fauxbro1983

2 жыл бұрын

Never question the algorithm

We love Jordan Petterson! He is a great mind! we have listened to him a lot .

Thanks Dave, keeping me motivated. First job out of college and I'm at the rock bottom of a global company. Back breaking work, with hopes to move up.

I am retired now but, I worked as an RN. I switched jobs several times during my career. The two factors involved were work load and money. If management decided to put too much of a work load, this can be dangerous. You can always get another job but, you can never get another license. The money situation is obvious. One job switch, I got a lower work load with a 20% pay increase.

I'd never thought I'd see a clip from Theo Vons podcast on the Dave Ramsey show. My youtube experience is coming full circle now.

I needed this. Thanks!

"settling for suck" lol 😂😂. Using that in my next debate

Can’t wait to see this

Dave is great, and their advice and message here are correct. However, it's a small section of a conversation, and with peterson you have to listen to it all and this was just a small part of it.

This is the best video you guys have done in a while

Thank YOU so much. Well said!

Ken, you’d get owned by Peterson

@ElainesDomain

2 жыл бұрын

So would Dave

Wow you guys missed the mark entirely

One thing to remember for me at least is that starting a new job creates a ton of stress in learning new stuff, working with new colleagues, and re-proving myself. Not a reason to stay in a bad spot but something to remember before leaving.

I think the key is to be intentional and take calculated risks. If you’re underpaid or undervalued at a job and miserable, you should be proactive to improve your situation and create a plan to do so all while mitigating risk.

Ken: "I love a good argument" Dave: Constanly interrupts Ken. Ken:

@nedbymicklemarket7370

2 жыл бұрын

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As a huge fan of Theo von and Dave Ramsey, it’s crazy seeing them both on the same screen lol GANG GANG

Oooo I’ve been waiting for these two to get together

@4:00 he told Dave that's "garbage". That was really cool !!!!

More context is needed. He doesn't advocate just jumping ship without a plan. He has done this type of thing with his clinical psychology clients for many years. TikTok is not necessarily the best medium for showing the full context of what a long-form discussion is entailing and that's what JP does.

Did yall listen to the whole interview? Peterson followed that up by saying "There's no secure path...there are risks." It's not doom and gloom, it's saying if you are expecting a risk free path forward, there's not one.

I needed this

Best part of this video is Dave saying he would like to have Jordan on the show. Lets GO!!!!

It’s pretty easy. Avoid debt, save and the risk to change jobs is minimal. Make sure a job is not a dead end before you take on a mortgage. Work hard. If you become wealthy-goody- but don’t pursue wealth. It’s a trap. Material is mortal error. Never expect an inheritance. Let your kid’s use wisdom and make their own darn money. Where is the terrifying risk?

There’s a balance. If you’re struggling. Make a plan. Be logical and don’t let your current emotions create additional future issues.

I like these new clips.

He wasn’t talking about financial risk he was talking about the perceived emotional risks

You should invite him over to the show for a productive conversation. You both could learn a lot from each other.

You miss one important thing. Some jobs will find a way to FIRE YOU if they find you are looking for another job! New jobs like to investigate your current work whether they do that above board or not. ALSO, getting a good job search and interviews in without interfering with common work hours at your current job can also be difficult. They seem to miss the real world application of job change.

@blackworldtraveler3711

2 жыл бұрын

Something you need to workout for yourself. You want detailed and personalized real world advice it has to be more than a 5-10 minute phone call from KZread video snips aimed at the masses for profit.

@whbgegs5571

2 жыл бұрын

Use a head hunter or agency and you will be anonymous.

@unsuckified3192

2 жыл бұрын

@@whbgegs5571 I was just speaking in the general sense. It isn't so cut and dried to do it the right way. Also, I'm in Law Enforcement and there is no anonymous situation. For certain the worst career for gossip and everyone knowing your biz.

It’s a balance we should try to have. Make our wealth & spend time with our loved ones. The risk is spending loads of time with your career. Don’t not want to regret missing holidays, birthdays, etc. I am with Mr. Jordan on this.

Your peace of mind is more important than any job you have at the moment. A year ago, I quit a job that I had worked at for about 5 years. The pay was great, but the people werent, and my mental was diclining. I didnt have a plan when I quit, all I had was 2600 in savings, some assets, no credit, and lived in a cheap rental. Took me 3 monthes to find another job. I changed trades, took atleast a $10k-$15k/yr pay cut. But now, a year later, Im well into my new job, love it, make as much as I did at my old job, great credit, have $20k liquid (saved every dollar I could, and sold off a chunk of my assets), and am now looking to buy my first home. Sometimes, quitting is a good thing!

They judged a short video and came to insane conclusions that are addressed in the full interview. Do your research Ramsey Team

Dave let the co host talk. Come on Dave Ramsey you over talk Ken lately. It's getting tiresome. I would like to hear his perspective.

Jordan is keen on the saying, “Don’t throw your pearls before swine”. He tells people to focus on a goal, but it won’t be a straight path to success. You miss or adjust and goals shift, but keep moving towards it. Bad jobs can kill your body and spirit. You must treat yourself like someone you care about so you can keep growing. “There are two major reasons for resentment: being taken advantage of (or allowing yourself to be taken advantage of), or whiny refusal to adopt responsibility and grow up.” - Jordan Peterson. You must find some responsibility to bear in order for life to have meaning. If you can’t make a situation at work better, it may be risky to get out, but staying it worse.

How I see that speech is that you have a job you hate but is secure, then presented in front of you is a job you think you might like better or some grass is greener outlook, but may not be as secure as the one that you have now.

Kenneth, like you, I appreciate a good collar. Sorry, Mr. Bossman keeps interrupting you. You're increasing your risk by staying there.

I understand that the name of the show is Dave Ramsey BUT when he constantly interrupts his cohosts it’s distracting and frankly a turnoff to watching. They both have relevant things to say and I don’t like watching Dave talk over them so often.

Oooff! That phrase about loving work. Gotta have people who say that define it. Lol

Peterson-Ramsey Show = RATINGS THROUGH THE ROOF!! America’s & Canada’s Dads unite 🤗

@nedbymicklemarket7370

2 жыл бұрын

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