The Principles of Training: Handling Unweaned Thoroughbred Foals Part 1

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In this video, Warwick discusses the foal handling methods of Luke Thomas, a master horseman from Australia who halter breaks hundreds of foals throughout rural Australia. These methods all contain different pieces of The Principles of Training, which goes to show that no matter the breed, age, or experience level the principles are applicable across the entire horse training spectrum.
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  • @angelaboaden5591
    @angelaboaden55913 жыл бұрын

    I was very fascinated by the idea of touching both the mare and foal so your kinda a part of the mare. I tried it with a tree and my old (now wild) rescue bird. she happily hopped onto my hand and stayed there

  • @sidilicious11
    @sidilicious113 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I’m so impressed. Two brilliant horse trainers, who really love the horses above all else, who keep learning better ways to relate to horses.

  • @randomvielleuse527
    @randomvielleuse5273 жыл бұрын

    I love how your videos show up on exactly the subject I need at exactly the right time. :) I was watching another KZread channel and seeing a foal being led before it was ready and into situations that it was not really prepared for. The foal was never in any real danger and the handlers were relatively gentle and patient- but there was so much resistance that just got pushed through instead of being dealt with in the way you are showing here. It was just push and pull and shove. Again, not hard or with any cruelty, just not very sensitive or respectful of the foal's anxiety. Warwick, I am so incredibly grateful for your willingness to share your experiences and teaching techniques, and to see you learning from others! Wow. SO wonderful. I always learn a ton and besides that, watching you and people like you makes me so very happy. You're making the world a much better place one horse, one human, at a time. Thank you.

  • @kimbeyeler6173

    @kimbeyeler6173

    3 жыл бұрын

    Felicia Dale I second all you said

  • @randomvielleuse527

    @randomvielleuse527

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@kimbeyeler6173

  • @tracym6297
    @tracym62973 жыл бұрын

    I love how quiet you and Luke are with your mind and body. Very calm. I have been working on getting my mind quiet and in the moment. We're so used to having time frames.

  • @Graceme-ho1rt
    @Graceme-ho1rt2 жыл бұрын

    I like this method, the foal doesnt have to get worried or upset at all. Building trust and confidence and setting a good foundation.

  • @sidilicious11
    @sidilicious113 жыл бұрын

    I want to be this brilliant, calm, simple, caring, effective with horses..

  • @peterlovett5841
    @peterlovett58413 жыл бұрын

    Warwick, I can understand not being judgemental about "horse breakers" except there is now so much information about what for a better term I will call "natural horsemanship" that for someone still using the old "rope & break" method then the only excuse is that they are incapable of learning. I was first introduced to natural horsemanship back in the 1980s' and I am sure it existed way before then but I could see immediately that the end result was something way better than what I saw from the older harsher methods. The proof of the principles you and others like you are applying is in the final result of a horse that truely wants to perform with you rather than being afraid not to.

  • @imdemauri

    @imdemauri

    3 жыл бұрын

    My feelings exactly! well spoken Sir.

  • @nancyk3615
    @nancyk36153 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy working with thoroughbred babies. Great lesson. Thank you!

  • @magdalenagauderon3754
    @magdalenagauderon37543 жыл бұрын

    I love this.!its as gentle n the foal as it is on the Mare .

  • @debbiejohnson4737
    @debbiejohnson47373 жыл бұрын

    Wow! This was an awesome illustration in real time of the Principles of Training. This moves the Principles from theory to actual application. Can't wait to see more!!

  • @mdee860
    @mdee8603 жыл бұрын

    So cute & she's a good Mom. It's almost like she's helping the trainer by making more room for her colt to line up next to her in the corner. She did this twice!Almost like she's saying "Come on my boy, the sooner you line up in this corner & act right, the faster we can get back to the pasture & our friends!"

  • @shortyw74
    @shortyw743 жыл бұрын

    Really impressed to see a TB Racing Stud using these principle, great work!

  • @sintara8442
    @sintara84423 жыл бұрын

    I just want to add that this mare is such a good sport!

  • @petercastles5978
    @petercastles59783 жыл бұрын

    Great stuff, Warwick. Thank you.

  • @sidilicious11

    @sidilicious11

    3 жыл бұрын

    Peter Castles I’ll say!!

  • @stinahumana
    @stinahumana3 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this very good video on handling foals. So nice and kind and calm.

  • @giuseppegumina5576
    @giuseppegumina55769 ай бұрын

    Super Video. Very Beautiful

  • @KarenInCalif
    @KarenInCalif3 жыл бұрын

    Thrilling to see. Thank you.

  • @anmariegibbs5713
    @anmariegibbs57132 жыл бұрын

    I’m so glad I found this post…I take delivery of a barely-handled 6 month old in a few weeks and want to start gently from the minute we get him off the trailer. He will have a head collar on, I’m told, but I doubt someone would have been this patient to get it in him, so I will go right back to the start with him. I’ve watched videos of people haltering youngsters and straight away wrestling with them on a lead rope which I found really distressing and I don’t want to do that.I’d love to think our boy will be as calm and settled as the youngsters in your video after a little while of patient handling and building a connection……. I’ll try my very best! Thankyou so much for the guidance

  • @kidstuff44555
    @kidstuff445553 жыл бұрын

    Interesting that the first touch is right on the foal's face. Horses are naturally wary about their faces being touched (because lions and other predators grab their prey's lips and face to restrain them). Most handling methods involving untouched horses start with initial touching being on the withers, shoulders or base of the neck area, because horses are less wary of those areas. Anyway, interesting method. Just goes to show there are many methods that use the same good principles

  • @silkeklein2068
    @silkeklein20683 жыл бұрын

    I just wish I could give this session more thumbs up. How good can you get working on horses. Best regards from Königreich/Jork

  • @carolyndahl9059
    @carolyndahl90593 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant!!!

  • @julierussell8876
    @julierussell88763 жыл бұрын

    I absolutely loved this.

  • @Donna-vh5ym
    @Donna-vh5ym3 жыл бұрын

    Amazing. So happy you shared this.

  • @allisonk8316
    @allisonk83163 жыл бұрын

    Great video

  • @delishme2
    @delishme23 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful and thanks

  • @triplet4547
    @triplet45473 жыл бұрын

    Very impressive!

  • @sseeback6754
    @sseeback67543 жыл бұрын

    Loved seeing the footage from Australia!! So awesome!

  • @ayhank_orkmaz
    @ayhank_orkmaz3 жыл бұрын

    a very good lesson, thank you very much

  • @sherryw-ponyluv-er2394
    @sherryw-ponyluv-er23942 жыл бұрын

    Beautiful to watch. ❤️

  • @normanwheatley14
    @normanwheatley143 жыл бұрын

    VERY INTERESTING VIDEO, THANK YOU

  • @Big.catdiary
    @Big.catdiary3 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant

  • @karinarafter353
    @karinarafter3533 жыл бұрын

    Hi Warwick from Newcastle Australia one more great video Young is a beautiful town 🍒 cherries watching this I was thinking about the Willesee Brothers there stud was out side of Cootamundra 🇦🇺

  • @vamppanic
    @vamppanic3 жыл бұрын

    with that hand touch thing, he’s also essentially target training the foal which is a building block of +R training

  • @loredelore7286
    @loredelore72863 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting video as its not an area of horse training that is not seen much and done well.

  • @helenjanelowden8572
    @helenjanelowden85723 жыл бұрын

    Super

  • @persephonemaeve2704
    @persephonemaeve27043 жыл бұрын

    Some folks naturally have these abilities to realise the subtle cues to apply and release pressure with perfect timing. Some other folks are so out of tune that they never figure it out.

  • @kathiegustafson3511
    @kathiegustafson3511 Жыл бұрын

    I have this problem right now as I just got a mare/foal home. Foal has not been handled and is 8 weeks old. I went out and tried the snapping fingers, eye contact and retreating to other side and in less than 5 minutes the foal was nuzzling my hand that I put under the mares neck and onto mares shoulder. Can't wait to go further. Would like to have video showing actually putting the halter on and what kind of halter you used to do this? Closed halter just slipped over ears?

  • @shezakillrqueen
    @shezakillrqueen3 жыл бұрын

    A trainer here recently said that horses aren't partners in his eyes, but happy employees. I'm not sure what to think about that... As a trainer I may not have enough time to build a partnership with my horses, but as an owner I do have enough time to build a lot of trust in my horse, don't I? What do you think about that?

  • @randomvielleuse527

    @randomvielleuse527

    3 жыл бұрын

    I love seeing horses or other working animals as happy employees! That's a lovely thought, as is as close to equal partnership as is possible between two such dissimilar species. But my personal take on horses, and most animals who live with humans, is that they are our slaves. Not by our individual intent of course, but under the laws of most nations animals are considered property just as human slaves were, and still are in some countries. So, while it's incredibly important what's happening here on forums like this and truly does make our horses, and ourselves, better, it doesn't change the law.

  • @zoroisdead

    @zoroisdead

    3 жыл бұрын

    Felicia Dale I say the same thing! I would die for my dog though. All life is sacred, but horses are different. The humane treatment of horses and cattle were at the heart of the Zoroastrian concept of vohu mana, the precursor of humanism. I think learning to work with horses in particular, because they're the most intelligent domestic species, helped our species evolve into more subjectively intelligent beings. I think it's because they're psychologically matriarchal, their memories are infallible, and they don't eat dead things. Tbh, I bet the trainer that said that they don't see horses as partners isn't that good. My lead mare is definitely my partner, she actively tries to help me, on her own. To serve is to rule;)

  • @randomvielleuse527

    @randomvielleuse527

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@zoroisdead Well... I think horses and all grass eaters eat stuff that comes under the "dead things" lable on a regular basis. Bugs, grubs, fly larvae, etc., all get munched up with their forage. Also, it turns out that grass eaters who grow antlers every fall deliberately seek out sources of calcium and other minerals and, when not available through licks or forage, they will eat small birds or other critters, specifically targeting the largest sources of bone. Horrifying... but fascinating. In any case, horses and other animals can create huge healing for humans if we just slow down a darn second and learn from them. We surely would not be who we are today without Horse, Dog, Cat, Cow, Pig, Bird, Elephant and others who we have connected with over our species' short time span. We owe them so much.

  • @karenanderson6323
    @karenanderson63232 ай бұрын

    SP GREAT! Thank you ":-) 11

  • @littlehorses5930
    @littlehorses59303 жыл бұрын

    Hey Warwick, this was a great video as always. I really enjoy watching your videos and have learnt so much from them, but I have a bit of a question that's not entirely related to this video, but I still hope it's okay to ask. I have a little Haflinger mare who gets worried about motorbikes and loud engines. There were four loud bikes riding around a few weeks ago and she got so worked up she actually jumped the gate of her paddock and took off 5km down the road. We were lucky to find her quickly and she only had minor injuries, a few cuts and probably a sore belly as she didn't quite make the jump, but I now think It would be best to desensitize her to motorbikes riding around incase it happens again. I'm just wondering what would be the best way to do that using your methods so I can make it the best and safest way for her and also myself. We have also recently moved to a new property and she's been in a much bigger paddock than she was before and now has grass, so I understand that all of this change may have caused her to act differently than in the past. I was thinking about using a different combination of principles and methods that you use such as the desensitizing to cars and gunfire, while also staying under her threshold, letting her know that I see her concern and using other principles I have learned from your videos. Any advice would be great as I want to make sure I'm going about this right. Thank you so much for all the great knowledge you have shared, I really appreciate it :)

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    3 жыл бұрын

    The first thing Id do is make sure she is completely relaxed before any of that happens. having a good starting point is the most important thing.

  • @littlehorses5930

    @littlehorses5930

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WarwickSchiller Okay that makes sense. We don't currently have an arena on the property so I would have to work with her in her paddock or the yard. What would be the first step to take? I was thinking of getting her used to the actual bike before it starts. Thank you for the reply :)

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@littlehorses5930 No, forget the bike, just work on her relaxation with nothing going on

  • @littlehorses5930

    @littlehorses5930

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WarwickSchiller Ah, okay, she is fairly relaxed without anything going on, but I can certainly work on that too. Then once she is completley relaxed, begin to introduce the bikes?

  • @bellajayne7442

    @bellajayne7442

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@littlehorses5930 Hi, l would start a lawn mower at a far distance from her, see how she is with the noise of that, if she panics & starts trotting off, you can turn it off straight away,. Then you could try starting it again even further away from her. I have 5 horse's here all in 1 acre separate paddocks, l mow past their paddocks on the ride on & none of them care now. But, l did start at first up near the house, so the noise wasn't as loud.

  • @abethomas8625
    @abethomas8625 Жыл бұрын

    What age should be to saddle a Horse

  • @TheReevessss
    @TheReevessss3 жыл бұрын

    Would have been better & more interest if showed the halter applied to foal was included.

  • @mashley444
    @mashley4443 жыл бұрын

    This is a great video but wouldn’t it be easier if the foal is handled every day from the day they are born and how would you vet a foal that hasn’t been handled.

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    3 жыл бұрын

    There are 150 thoroughbred foals on this farm...

  • @nightowlanna1069

    @nightowlanna1069

    3 жыл бұрын

    sometimes in a commercial stud farm setting, where they are allowed to roam big paddocks/pastures, it's not reasonable to get them all back from the field, handle every foal, get the back to pasture. That's so many man hours in a day that it's just not viable. That's the reality of it.

  • @johnjacobs4207
    @johnjacobs42073 жыл бұрын

    those mares and foals were almost cold blooded. If he was dealing with Egyptian Arabians he would have to use the round corral to even touch the foal. Polish Arabians come right up to you with out round corral work

  • @lazygardens
    @lazygardens3 жыл бұрын

    I think the mares are cooperating ...

  • @evelynbagnasco7293
    @evelynbagnasco72933 жыл бұрын

    5 months old?

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think that's what I was told

  • @evelynbagnasco7293

    @evelynbagnasco7293

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WarwickSchiller . Thank you. I will start working on mine. Perfect timing!

  • @LisaPelletier
    @LisaPelletier3 жыл бұрын

    I have just one question because this is of great concern to me. I used to work at a race track some years ago. My question is this. Of all these babies that you helped halterbreak. How many of them went to slaughter once they were no longer useful? Because it seems Austrailia as well as all the other countries who love this sport have zero accountability when it comes to over breeding. And as I am sure you well know the reality of these places is absolutely horrific. So tell me. How can you aid in the ultimate demise of these babies? I think horse trainers need to be the voice for these animals, because ultimately the greed behind racing is quite evil. Horses are sensitive beings and the fact that the racing industry in particular supplies a huge number of animals to this horrific animal slaughter industry is appalling to be very honest. They were great when they were winning money or producing foals. But once that was over they send them off to get a bullet. I realize slaughter is necessary in some situations. But seriously doesnt it bother you?

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    3 жыл бұрын

    I was not employed by the TB breeder, Luke was.I was there to learn from Luke so I can help other horses, whatever was going to happen to these foals later in life is going to happen to them whether I went there or not. Im no fan of the racing industry either, and if you feel that strongly about it, Id suggest you directly contact someone in the racing industry, instead of someone who was learning something from someone who is not involved in the racing industry, but halter breaks foals for a TB breeder. In other words, dont arrest the drug user, arrest the drug dealer.

  • @LisaPelletier

    @LisaPelletier

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WarwickSchiller Not really trying to attack you personally. And I realize we all have to learn through others. I get that. I just find it really difficult to watch a trainer I admire greatly working with babies knowing most of them will be sent down a road that they didn't sign up for. I worked one season at a track here in the US. It just amazes me that nothing really has changed in 30 years. I have an OTTB that would have wound up on a slaughter truck because she is so fearful of trailering, I wound up using a schute to load her she is 12. I know she raced 7 times always in claiming races. So from the get go she was a throw away. I did a fair amount of research on her. I've seen how they handle horses that are noncompliant at the track. Some of these impatient fools forcing them into the starting gate with prods and whips. Trainers in general don't try to build a horses confidence. Trainers in the horse industry have a louder voice than average individual. Believe me TB trainers as you well know, will tell you once the horse leaves them it's not their problem. They truly do not care. That machine is broken and not worth fixing. I respect you as a trainer. I just wish that trainers in general would speak out for these wonderful animals. Look at how easy they are to get to come around and trust humans. Ultimately it falls upon us to say to these breeders and trainers and owners. What they're doing is cruel because they're over breeding to get that 1 fantastic horse who may also ultimately wind up in the food chain after giving their all. I realize that it was a learning experience. And it's very informative on halter breaking foals, But we as horse people have to do better. Don't you agree? I do respect you as a trainer and I very much like your kind approach method of training. Your love for horses is very apparent. I rescued an amazing mare who has a family tree that goes back to very famous race horses to the likes of War Admiral, Native Dancer, Northern Dancer, & Bold Ruler. One horse saved from the death train is better than none.

  • @adorapollard7308

    @adorapollard7308

    3 жыл бұрын

    I said the same thing. 150 a year?! Such a stupid amount of overbreeding and they’re not even good quality. Digestive issues and coat condition issues.. they as soon as we go into drought they get loaded into a truck and sent to slaughter. Disgusting.

  • @abethomas8625
    @abethomas8625 Жыл бұрын

    How many teeth has a horse

  • @kmrohleder6303
    @kmrohleder63033 жыл бұрын

    Only a shame that after a great start they will enter the horrific racing industry where most of them will be broken down physically and mentally at a very young age 😢

  • @stinahumana

    @stinahumana

    3 жыл бұрын

    yeah

  • @HelenRullesteg

    @HelenRullesteg

    3 жыл бұрын

    My thoughts exactly. So great to see what Warwick and Luke Thomas are doing, but what comes later is not edifying.

  • @stinahumana

    @stinahumana

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@HelenRullesteg yes that is true, but i think this kind horse training will make many more people think that corporate horse training does not really benefit anyone, it such a waste of resources. In UK 15 000 horses are bred for an industry that only need 5000, so you have 10 000 "waste" horses, its rediculous. Imagine all the waste of rescourses besides the terrible lives these beautiful beings get.

  • @kalayne6713

    @kalayne6713

    3 жыл бұрын

    Cruel, cruel industry.

  • @lindaweybright2480

    @lindaweybright2480

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stinahumana They wind up in slaughterhouses with a cruel death.

  • @jimmoore3705
    @jimmoore37053 жыл бұрын

    Imprinting at birth would solve all these problems.

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    3 жыл бұрын

    I think you'll see Jim that we didnt have any problems

  • @jimmoore3705

    @jimmoore3705

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WarwickSchiller I agree you didn't have a year problems and everything went smoothly but if the foals were imprinted at birth you would have saved all the time it took to get them to the acceptance stage and been able to move immediately to on the ground foundational.

  • @WarwickSchiller

    @WarwickSchiller

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jimmoore3705 Thres 150 of them at this Thoroughbred place, and they dont have the knowledge to do that

  • @jimmoore3705

    @jimmoore3705

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WarwickSchiller ok point well made. I still think 20 minutes when they are born would save hours later on but as you say we do the best we can in each situation. In any event the videos you are going are wonderful information tools p. Thank you.

  • @MathildaMartina

    @MathildaMartina

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jimmoore3705 I believe imprinting would be exactly that: saving time by taking a shortcut. It is nice to have a foal to imprint on her mum: this will teach the foal how to be horse. Few months later, it is your role to teach a foal how to work with people. Besides, the foals are smart: they trust their mums. They see, the mum trusts human. So you have 2 benefits: the bond between mum and foal remains strong (and you leave first precious moments of life for baby and mum to enjoy without interfering) and also it makes the foal to follow mare's example and be calm around people. That's just my observation from the herds I was working with;)

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